Examining Groh’s work at Tech

From Doug Roberson:

When Paul Johnson hired Al Groh after firing Dave Wommack, he was asked what he liked about his new defensive coordinator.

Johnson, fresh off winning the 2009 ACC championship with a defense that oddly gave up a lot of big plays but was effective in big situations, said that Groh, known for his 3-4 defense, would be able to fix things when they were going wrong.

Some things – tackling, fundamentals, limiting big plays — have “broken” in the past two weeks in losses to Miami and Middle Tennessee State. The defense has given up more than 1,100 yards and an average of 45.5 points. There’s not a lot of time for repairs with this week’s game at Clemson, which averages 510 yards and 40.2 points per game with a balanced offense.

Johnson didn’t try to defend his team’s play during his press conference on Tuesday, but at the same time defended Groh while holding himself and his staff accountable.

“… I don’t think the man forgot everything he knew in the last two weeks,” Johnson said. “But ultimately, we’re responsible. We’ve got to get it on the field. It doesn’t matter what you know, it’s what happens. So we’ve got to do a better job of getting it on the field.”

The reasons for the poor play are somewhat evident: poor tackling, poor fundamentals and, against Middle Tennessee, a lack of energy. Johnson said “You’ve got to do some of that stuff. Every time the ball breaks the line of scrimmage, it doesn’t have to be a touchdown.”

At his introductory press conference in 2010, Groh said hoped the players would pick up the 3-4 as fast as possible, but said it usually takes three years for the players to operate more instinctually.

Now in year three, Groh’s defense is statistically worse than Wommack’s in his final season.

This year, the defense is allowing more points (26.8) and yards per game (397) than they have since Groh was hired, while allowing slightly fewer rushing yards (155.2).

In Wommack’s last season, the Yellow Jackets gave up 24.8 points and 360.3 yards per game. Their worst two-game stretch occurred against Mississippi State and Florida State in which they gave up an average of 37.5 points and a total 1,026 yards. The Yellow Jackets won both of those games because the defense forced seven turnovers and the offense averaged 46 points and totaled more than 1,000 yards.

Groh’s defense this year isn’t making those stops. The overtime losses to Virginia Tech and Miami illustrated the critical-stop issue. In the defeat to Middle Tennessee the defense, missing two key players because of injury, came out flat and it showed in the missed tackles that allowed the Blue Raiders to total more than 500 yards.

Groh said the team has always emphasized tackling drills in practice, and focused on it even more this week ahead of the game against the Tigers, who feature numerous playmakers like Sammy Watkins and DeAndre Hopkins who need but one mistake to turn the routine into a big play.

One thing Wommack’s defense had that Groh’s does not is a consistent playmaker.

Defensive end Derrick Morgan was Wommack’s big-play man, finishing with 12.5 sacks to win the conference’s defensive player of the year award before he left to become a first-round selection in the NFL draft. No Tech player has come close to reaching that total since. Linebacker Brad Jefferson had four in 2010 and Jeremiah Attaochu six last year.

No Tech player has more than one sack this year. The team has just seven. Attaochu, the outside linebacker many expected to become a force, has been dealing with injuries this year and hasn’t been as effective, posting just one-half sack.

Johnson said it’d be great to have another Morgan, but that it’s wishful thinking to expect to have one every year. He indicated that he hopes that players, like Attaochu or Jemea Thomas, who have shown a lot of potential, will become consistent playmakers.

“It’s not like we’re null and void of players,” he said.

Without that consistent playmaker to pressure quarterbacks, Tech’s defense is giving up big plays in campaign-promise bunches. After allowing 50 in 2010 and 47 in 2011, the defense has allowed 22 this year and is on pace to give up 57 if team plays in a bowl. Wommack’s defense gave up 66 in 2009, but made stops when it needed to defeat Wake Forest and Clemson in the ACC championship game.

Defensive end Izaan Cross said if the team will focus on everyone doing his job, “the playmakers will emerge.”

But he knows they can’t play like they did the previous two games if they hope to beat the Tigers.

“We’ve got to all come together and have a conscious effort to come out with everything we can,” he said. “It’s going to be a tough game.”

Tech under Groh

A look at Georgia Tech’s averages on defense in coordinator Al Groh’s three years:

Year/Scoring/Rushing/Passing/Total/Per play

2010: 25.2/169.7/201.9/371.6/5.7

2011: 26.1/161.5/197.6/359.2/5.5

2012: 26.8/155.2/241.8/397/5.7

Last year under Wommack

2009: 24.8/151.6/208.6/360.3/6.1

Thanks for reading. A word of caution: Everyone is welcome to his/her opinion, but profane language or antagonistism towards other commenters and posting under someone else’s handle are bannable offenses, no matter whose team you support. Consider this a warning.

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571 comments Add your comment

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
4:56 pm

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:57 pm

@Rodeo..TW doent have the latitude to call his own #

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:57 pm

Durn that Tevin.
(pretending to be a hater)

DawgNole

October 6th, 2012
4:57 pm

CigarDawg
October 6th, 2012
4:49 pm

SS,
I’m very cautiously optimistic about tonight. last week reminded us exactly how well we can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I am not convinced we are a top 5 team anyway, but I am hopeful. Bennett is a big loss for our passing game.
______________________

Same here–especially the top 5 aspect. Win tonight at their place, though, and we will have earned it.

1 4 GT

October 6th, 2012
4:58 pm

Please play some D & get a 3 & out…….PLEASE!!

CigarDawg

October 6th, 2012
4:58 pm

Based on my UGA education, I think you guys can win if you keep trading them field goals for your touchdowns! ;-)

That was a very nice drive.

ibidGT

October 6th, 2012
4:58 pm

Let’s go D, at least one stop?

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
4:58 pm

Whew! Touchdown!!

Glad TW made it. If he hadn’t, to appropriate part of the name of another blog poster, “no can defense”…

GO JACKETS!!

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
4:59 pm

A stop by the D would be nice here…..

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:59 pm

@DawgNole….Going to be hostile!!

Rodeo

October 6th, 2012
4:59 pm

TW CALLS HIS NUMBER AGAIN….WHO SAW THAT ONE COMING?

DawgNole

October 6th, 2012
4:59 pm

SS loves Obama
October 6th, 2012
4:49 pm

Not Preaching just please follow the rules of the blog. Thanks.
_______________________

Another sermon. I haven’t broken the rules of the blog. Issue your directives elsewhere.

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
5:00 pm

LOL@CigarDawg, thanks for chuckle ;-)

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
5:00 pm

@1 4 GT….the D needs to stand up!

ibidGT

October 6th, 2012
5:02 pm

Isaiah Johnson…HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
5:02 pm

We just don’t have the players on D…..

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
5:03 pm

Busted play, TD, damn

Romney Won

October 6th, 2012
5:03 pm

I love this deffensive scheme. Might try it out in our pee wee league

1 4 GT

October 6th, 2012
5:03 pm

SS….you little phony….don’t you dare address me at all!!

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
5:04 pm

This week the defense may have an excuse.
Clemson’s offense is pretty good.

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
5:04 pm

Looks like we have to ride the Offense all game long – I am not sure 50 points will give us a victory today…..

DawgNole

October 6th, 2012
5:04 pm

This is an excellent bounceback by Tech–especially after last week. Not easy to win up there under any circumstances. A long way to go, obviously, but Tech could’ve rolled over for this one, and few would’ve been surprised. Y’all are in it; just need some defense.

The Tower

October 6th, 2012
5:04 pm

LMAO!!! Clemson will hang 60 on this pukey team!

1 4 GT

October 6th, 2012
5:04 pm

Groh must GO!!

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
5:05 pm

“last team with the ball wins”

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
5:06 pm

D flushes the QB, he pulls it down and at the last second lets it go, DB leaves the reciever to come up on the QB, ya gotta stay with your responsibility!

The Tower

October 6th, 2012
5:06 pm

I. Johnson is terrible as a safety!

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
5:06 pm

We don’t have to score here, but we need to move the ball and keep Clemson’s O off the field.

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
5:06 pm

1 4 GT….I agree about Groh. Its not looking good. Where do you tailgate?

OldSchoolTechFanatic

October 6th, 2012
5:06 pm

What has happened to the D. They cant be this bad

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
5:07 pm

The Tower

October 6th, 2012
5:07 pm

Anyone going to BC game in 2 weeks? NOT ME!

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
5:07 pm

@1 4 GT.
Agreed but I think we are stuck with him for the year.
He does seem to be sending Attaochu a lot.

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
5:08 pm

Come on Tevin!!

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
5:08 pm

No timeouts….

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
5:08 pm

@TheTower..True fans always support the team.

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
5:09 pm

Yea UNC beat VT.

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
5:10 pm

Man, that was UGLY…..

Poor game management by CPJ

The Tower

October 6th, 2012
5:10 pm

Great clock management Paul!

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
5:10 pm

We could have used some time outs.
I know where we wasted one of them.

ibidGT

October 6th, 2012
5:10 pm

Took too long with our play calling…could have scored if we got the plays in faster.

DawgNole

October 6th, 2012
5:10 pm

Ouch! Missed FG stings. But its anybody’s game at the half.

The Tower

October 6th, 2012
5:11 pm

Kiss my butt Paul Johnson!

Romney 1

October 6th, 2012
5:11 pm

Could have been worse

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
5:12 pm

Well decent half of football for the O, mediocre for the D. Let’s hope the D can turn it up a notch in the second half.

OldSchoolTechFanatic

October 6th, 2012
5:13 pm

I aint gonna get my hopes up this week. Im tired of the downfalls

dave s

October 6th, 2012
5:13 pm

pretty terrible game management. two of the timeouts we took earlier in the half were very unnecessary, and the team didn’t look like it really knew what it was doing on that final drive. that’s coaching

The Tower

October 6th, 2012
5:13 pm

Mr Obama…I’ve supported this crap for 30 years! Tired of supporting this garbage!

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
5:14 pm

I’ll take 27-21 at the half, but a couple of things from the first half really frustrated me:

1. We go for it on 4th down deep in our territory in the 1st Quarter, call a time out – which gives the defense the chance to get set just like it does our offense – and the best we can come up with is another &^%&& QB sneak?

2. We get them in a 4th down situation, they are planning to punt, and we have to call timeout again because WE weren’t ready? During the TO, of course Clemson decides to go for it, which leads to a score.

3. We get a chance for points on the last drive, and CPJ acts like he’s never run a 2 minute drill before – plus we have no timeouts.

I’m typically a defender of CPJ, but he has to do better. I think items 1-3 above represent at least 13 points one way or the other.

Jp

October 6th, 2012
5:14 pm

I Johnson is terrible, he has no clue what he’s doing back there…slow as molasses and looks scared. Just do away with football at Tech, pretty much gave up when you hired this goofball anyway.