Examining Groh’s work at Tech

From Doug Roberson:

When Paul Johnson hired Al Groh after firing Dave Wommack, he was asked what he liked about his new defensive coordinator.

Johnson, fresh off winning the 2009 ACC championship with a defense that oddly gave up a lot of big plays but was effective in big situations, said that Groh, known for his 3-4 defense, would be able to fix things when they were going wrong.

Some things – tackling, fundamentals, limiting big plays — have “broken” in the past two weeks in losses to Miami and Middle Tennessee State. The defense has given up more than 1,100 yards and an average of 45.5 points. There’s not a lot of time for repairs with this week’s game at Clemson, which averages 510 yards and 40.2 points per game with a balanced offense.

Johnson didn’t try to defend his team’s play during his press conference on Tuesday, but at the same time defended Groh while holding himself and his staff accountable.

“… I don’t think the man forgot everything he knew in the last two weeks,” Johnson said. “But ultimately, we’re responsible. We’ve got to get it on the field. It doesn’t matter what you know, it’s what happens. So we’ve got to do a better job of getting it on the field.”

The reasons for the poor play are somewhat evident: poor tackling, poor fundamentals and, against Middle Tennessee, a lack of energy. Johnson said “You’ve got to do some of that stuff. Every time the ball breaks the line of scrimmage, it doesn’t have to be a touchdown.”

At his introductory press conference in 2010, Groh said hoped the players would pick up the 3-4 as fast as possible, but said it usually takes three years for the players to operate more instinctually.

Now in year three, Groh’s defense is statistically worse than Wommack’s in his final season.

This year, the defense is allowing more points (26.8) and yards per game (397) than they have since Groh was hired, while allowing slightly fewer rushing yards (155.2).

In Wommack’s last season, the Yellow Jackets gave up 24.8 points and 360.3 yards per game. Their worst two-game stretch occurred against Mississippi State and Florida State in which they gave up an average of 37.5 points and a total 1,026 yards. The Yellow Jackets won both of those games because the defense forced seven turnovers and the offense averaged 46 points and totaled more than 1,000 yards.

Groh’s defense this year isn’t making those stops. The overtime losses to Virginia Tech and Miami illustrated the critical-stop issue. In the defeat to Middle Tennessee the defense, missing two key players because of injury, came out flat and it showed in the missed tackles that allowed the Blue Raiders to total more than 500 yards.

Groh said the team has always emphasized tackling drills in practice, and focused on it even more this week ahead of the game against the Tigers, who feature numerous playmakers like Sammy Watkins and DeAndre Hopkins who need but one mistake to turn the routine into a big play.

One thing Wommack’s defense had that Groh’s does not is a consistent playmaker.

Defensive end Derrick Morgan was Wommack’s big-play man, finishing with 12.5 sacks to win the conference’s defensive player of the year award before he left to become a first-round selection in the NFL draft. No Tech player has come close to reaching that total since. Linebacker Brad Jefferson had four in 2010 and Jeremiah Attaochu six last year.

No Tech player has more than one sack this year. The team has just seven. Attaochu, the outside linebacker many expected to become a force, has been dealing with injuries this year and hasn’t been as effective, posting just one-half sack.

Johnson said it’d be great to have another Morgan, but that it’s wishful thinking to expect to have one every year. He indicated that he hopes that players, like Attaochu or Jemea Thomas, who have shown a lot of potential, will become consistent playmakers.

“It’s not like we’re null and void of players,” he said.

Without that consistent playmaker to pressure quarterbacks, Tech’s defense is giving up big plays in campaign-promise bunches. After allowing 50 in 2010 and 47 in 2011, the defense has allowed 22 this year and is on pace to give up 57 if team plays in a bowl. Wommack’s defense gave up 66 in 2009, but made stops when it needed to defeat Wake Forest and Clemson in the ACC championship game.

Defensive end Izaan Cross said if the team will focus on everyone doing his job, “the playmakers will emerge.”

But he knows they can’t play like they did the previous two games if they hope to beat the Tigers.

“We’ve got to all come together and have a conscious effort to come out with everything we can,” he said. “It’s going to be a tough game.”

Tech under Groh

A look at Georgia Tech’s averages on defense in coordinator Al Groh’s three years:

Year/Scoring/Rushing/Passing/Total/Per play

2010: 25.2/169.7/201.9/371.6/5.7

2011: 26.1/161.5/197.6/359.2/5.5

2012: 26.8/155.2/241.8/397/5.7

Last year under Wommack

2009: 24.8/151.6/208.6/360.3/6.1

Thanks for reading. A word of caution: Everyone is welcome to his/her opinion, but profane language or antagonistism towards other commenters and posting under someone else’s handle are bannable offenses, no matter whose team you support. Consider this a warning.

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571 comments Add your comment

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
4:40 pm

I have been wearing out DRad’s email about Groh. He’s had his 3 years and the numbers don’t lie.

GT1990

October 6th, 2012
4:40 pm

FIRE AL GROH PRESS 1

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:40 pm

Please stop the attacks and just enjoy the game. The boys are playing hard.

Romney Won

October 6th, 2012
4:40 pm

Tevin is nowhere good as Nesbit, not even close

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:41 pm

@Ol’JacketFan….CAG doesnt have the horses he needs for the 3-4.

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:41 pm

Keep that guy on the field.
Nice tackle Chris Milton.

ibidGT

October 6th, 2012
4:41 pm

Good tackle by Milton on that punt. Maybe he should be starting on our D?

Rodeo

October 6th, 2012
4:41 pm

Great read TW….Why didn’t PJ call TO and go for it on 4th?

Romney Won

October 6th, 2012
4:41 pm

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
4:42 pm

SS Loves, hush child you don’t run this blog.

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:42 pm

@GT1990.
I agree but let’s try to be positive.
I think we are stuck with Groh until the end of the season.

GT1990

October 6th, 2012
4:42 pm

I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT A GUY FROM LSU LETS THIS HAPPEN. I HOPE THIS WHOLE COACHING STAFF IS FIRED!

Jp

October 6th, 2012
4:43 pm

Another great call…2nd and 10, right up the gut for half a yard…man, what an offensive genius. Way to give them all the momentum PJ, another great Saturday watching awesome Tech football and this great coach at work. What a joke of a program!

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
4:44 pm

@ SS Loves then that’s an even bigger indictment of Groh

The Tower

October 6th, 2012
4:44 pm

I can’t watch this garbage anymore! Resign AG!

1 4 GT

October 6th, 2012
4:44 pm

Can they not make a stop & prove to the world they’re not a pushover on D?

lxUn1c0

October 6th, 2012
4:44 pm

I want to see a replay of that hit. When I saw it live, it looked solid and clean. That call shifted the momentum. I really hate ACC officials.

GT1990

October 6th, 2012
4:45 pm

@JACKET- ITS BLOWS MY MIND THAT GROH IS STILL HERE. MAYBE THE PLAYERS HAVE LAID DOWN ON HIM. I TALK TO A DE(NOT GOING TO SPELL NAMES) BUT HE TOLD ME IN AUGUST THAT SOME OF THE TEAM IS DISGUSTED WITH GROH.

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:45 pm

A man wide open but pressure worked.

1 4 GT

October 6th, 2012
4:45 pm

Thanks Dabbadabbado!!

lxUn1c0

October 6th, 2012
4:45 pm

14GT, not if solid tackles are penalized.

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:46 pm

Would also have worked occasionally against Miami if it was tried.

Romney Won

October 6th, 2012
4:46 pm

Im sorry, but why use a trick play o Groh’s D. Im not knocking the kids,just groh

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:47 pm

FGs are stops today.

DawgNole

October 6th, 2012
4:47 pm

SS loves Obama
October 6th, 2012
4:40 pm

Please stop the attacks and just enjoy the game. The boys are playing hard.
_____________________

Maybe if you’d stop preaching . . . .

GT1990

October 6th, 2012
4:47 pm

GROH MIGHT GET CPJ FIRED, JUST SAYING PEOPLE. MAYBE DRAD WILL GET FIRED TO. IT’S APPARENT THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM DEEPER THAN COACH FISH FRY.

1 4 GT

October 6th, 2012
4:47 pm

Dabo tried real hard to overthink that FG!!

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:48 pm

Cars.com commercial is creepy.

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:48 pm

@OlJacket….its either CAG OR CPJ stubborness. And I agree with you.

CigarDawg

October 6th, 2012
4:49 pm

SS,
I’m very cautiously optimistic about tonight. last week reminded us exactly how well we can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I am not convinced we are a top 5 team anyway, but I am hopeful. Bennett is a big loss for our passing game.

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:49 pm

Not Preaching just please follow the rules of the blog. Thanks.

1 4 GT

October 6th, 2012
4:49 pm

Methinks Dabbadabbado “tricked” his team out of a TD!!

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:50 pm

I think the Clemson trick play was a good one.
Pressure caused it to fail.
Happens to QBs all the time too.

Romney Won

October 6th, 2012
4:50 pm

@Jacket Detecctive there are a lot of commercials I dont understand anymore. I guess when they started dummying up our youth they changed advertising tactics ???

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:50 pm

I wouldn’t kind a replay of the passing sequence we saw ealier.

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:51 pm

That’ll work too.

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:51 pm

kind but meant mind

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:52 pm

@CigarDawg….good luck…..except against Tech!

Jacket Detective

October 6th, 2012
4:52 pm

The Big O came to play.

CigarDawg

October 6th, 2012
4:53 pm

Good stand to hold to a field goal and now a good looking series. Time to sting, boys!

BLT

October 6th, 2012
4:53 pm

Nice block by #10 on the outside.

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
4:53 pm

Pound these guys on O, they aren’t deep and they don’t have the D linemen they had last year.

CigarDawg

October 6th, 2012
4:53 pm

1st and goal to take the lead. Nice drive so far

ibidGT

October 6th, 2012
4:54 pm

Laskey looks good at B back. Better than Sims.

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
4:54 pm

COME ON JACKETS!!! PUNCH IT IN!!!

CigarDawg

October 6th, 2012
4:54 pm

Back at ya, SS!

Ol'JacketFan

October 6th, 2012
4:55 pm

Anybody notice the wider splits by the O linemen?

DS CE'91

October 6th, 2012
4:56 pm

We just shoot ourselves in the foot SO freaking much….

Rodeo

October 6th, 2012
4:56 pm

TW WILL CALL HIS OWN NUMBER AGAIN!!!

SS loves Obama

October 6th, 2012
4:56 pm

Come on guys!!!!!