Updated: ACC reverts to eight-game league schedule

The ACC has moved back from its planned nine-game league schedule to eight games. The upshot for Georgia Tech is that it will see Atlantic Division opponents less frequently and may strengthen its non-conference schedule.

The impetus of the move, announced Wednesday at the end of the league’s fall meetings, was the five games that Notre Dame will play annually against ACC teams starting no later than 2014. The load on Tech, for instance, to play nine league games, Notre Dame and Georgia in the same season every three years was considered a bit too heavy.

As a result, Tech and other ACC schools now have openings to fill. With the nine-game format in place since February, Tech has only three non-conference opponents lined up through 2015, and only two in 2016. Anticipating the switch, Tech associate athletic director Ryan Bamford said that he has had conversations with “like institutions” in the Big Ten and the Big East about home-and-home games for 2013 and 2014.

“We’ve got a couple people that might be interested,” said Bamford, who hoped that deals could come together in a few weeks.

When Pittsburgh and Syracuse join the league next fall, teams will play six division games, one game against its primary crossover partner and one against another inter-divisional opponent. Tech will keep Clemson as its permanent partner but will only play other Atlantic Division teams, including Florida State, once every six years.

It obviously means a slower rotation through the opposite division. In the present format, any given team plays every team in the other division home and away in a five-year period. For Tech, that means Florida State (and every other Atlantic Division team besides Clemson) will come to Bobby Dodd Stadium once every 12 years. Notre Dame, by comparison, will likely play in Atlanta once every six years.

No other details about scheduling, including the rotations for Notre Dame or inter-divisional play, were released. Most coaches, including Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson, had been in favor of an eight-game schedule vs. a nine-game schedule. Particularly for Clemson, Florida State and Tech, which have an annual rivalry game with an SEC opponent, they felt that it would create an overly demanding schedule and also leave less room to play non-conference home games.

Tech has non-conference games for 2013 against Georgia, BYU and Elon. Earlier this year, Tech canceled the second half of its four-game series with BYU (games in 2014 and 2017) thinking that it would only have room for three non-conference games each year.

Georgia Tech’s basketball teams also received a surprise. With the league reverting to having two primary partners with its 14-team, 18-game league schedule, Tech kept Clemson and added Notre Dame. (Wake Forest, which has been Tech’s other partner besides Clemson, will have Duke and N.C. State.) Both the Irish men’s and women’s teams are among the best in the country. The Notre Dame men’s team has averaged 22.8 wins over the past five seasons and has qualified for the NCAA tournament five of the past six seasons, never worse than a No. 7 seed. The Notre Dame women’s team has reached the championship game each of the past two seasons.

The conference tournament will continue to include every team and will now start on a Wednesday and run through Sunday.

The baseball tournament will expand from eight to 10 teams, with double-elimination games running Tuesday through Friday with single-elimination games Saturday with the Sunday championship game.

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

63 comments Add your comment

juvenal

October 3rd, 2012
2:37 pm

for how long?

juvenal

October 3rd, 2012
2:39 pm

not much “permanent”, these days….

Ken Sugiura

October 3rd, 2012
2:57 pm

we’ll see. until the next expansion, i suppose.

ibidGT

October 3rd, 2012
3:03 pm

I would like to see an 8 conference games as opposed to the 9 team schedule. That being said though I would like to see tougher OOC opponent, granted that being said we got destroyed by MTSU…so yah…

Montylick&ass

October 3rd, 2012
3:17 pm

Elon…now that should pack the stadium!

GIVE ME A BREAK

October 3rd, 2012
3:23 pm

Add another SEC team. Play FCS team before schedule starts, as a warm up.

Montylick&ass

October 3rd, 2012
3:31 pm

GMAB: Great idea. At least then if you get your @$$ whipped it won’t be by MTSU, and you will make a TON of money. I recall Alabama and Auburn coming into OOC games with Tech flat or looking ahead and Tech pulling the upset. Win or lose, you put fannies in the seats (OK, and maybe a few falling over the railings) and probably end up on national TV if you can get somebody from the upper half of the SEC. That will make up for the loss of the big gates provided by the FSU game.

lxUn1c0

October 3rd, 2012
3:32 pm

They need to just get rid of the cross-divisional rivalries. As much as I like playing Clemson every year, it just would have made more sense to put in place the two-team home-and-home rotating schedule instead of one fixed and one rotating opponent. I want to see us play a better variety of Atlantic division opponents, and it doesn’t make sense for us to play Notre Dame twice as often as every Atlantic team other than Clemson.

Jacket Fan

October 3rd, 2012
3:33 pm

As I have said before, we should schedule UGA and three other SEC teams every year. Beat those four, we win the ACC easy. Fill the stadium, help with recruiting. Are we in it to win it, or do we want to keep getting mashed by MTSU types from time to time?

Montylick&ass

October 3rd, 2012
3:37 pm

Aub, Ala, Fla, USC, Tenn, LSU would all sell out Bobby Dodd, and I bet even A&M and Mizzou would bring a lot of fans who havent had the opportunity to come to Atlanta for football games. Face it, we aren’t likely to ever go 12-0, we won’t be playing for another national championship any time soon (ever?), and an out of conference loss won’t hurt in the ACC race. Playing a big time opponent gets the kids focused, and pays dividends down the road when you face a superior opponent in the ACCCG or a bowl.

www

October 3rd, 2012
3:39 pm

this makes sense.

next step, in my mind – realign the conference divisions into north and south.

then push hard to get penn state into the acc as the 14th team.

Montylick&ass

October 3rd, 2012
3:44 pm

Seriously, what is the upside to scheduling MTSO or Elon mid-season (or ever)? Stadium is half-empty, layers lose focus, could get somebody hurt, and any benefit of 10 blowouts against that level of opponent is more than negated by one stinker like last week.

Montylick&ass

October 3rd, 2012
3:46 pm

I like the north/south thing…what was up with Atlantic and Coastal? What a stupid “division”. The coast IS the Atlantic!

DesignerJacket

October 3rd, 2012
3:53 pm

Play Auburn (not that they’re available.) Tech and Auburn fans need that rivalry reignited. They’re still our second most-played team of all time.

GTBob

October 3rd, 2012
3:54 pm

That is unfortunate. Only playing FSU at home once every 12 years is sad. We might as well not even be in the same conference. I really hate the fact that because college football is so watered down these days we have to watch games against Presbyterian instead of games against FSU.

Montylick&ass

October 3rd, 2012
4:05 pm

GTBob…I’d hate to miss out on the spectacle of the Blue Hose coming to Atlanta to mix with the brown hos!

5150 UOAD

October 3rd, 2012
4:14 pm

Screw making us pay to see 3 bad OOC games. UGa some other good teams please. having ND1 time every few years isn’t the answer.
I like the 9 games cause maybe we could even out the Schedule.
The EVEN year Schedule SUCKS for Home games.

5150 UOAD

October 3rd, 2012
4:16 pm

Working to get PENN STATE is the Best solution for the ACC.

Buzzed

October 3rd, 2012
4:17 pm

If you really want to play them more, play better and you can play FSU in the acccg fairly often.

Montylick&ass

October 3rd, 2012
4:21 pm

Let’s wait ’til Penn State has paid out all the sex abuse settlements and gets off probation…dont want to somehow get sucked into sharing that financial burden. Otherwise a good plan. You never know when the SEC may swoop in on the big traditional powers like Penn State or even try to cherry pick FSU, Clemson, or VaTech, so being proactive is a good idea.

GTVegas

October 3rd, 2012
4:27 pm

I agree. I’d rather get beaten by Tennessee or South Carolina than MTSU.

1 4 GT

October 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm

Bring on the SEC. Georgie +3 others could be worked out between the 2 leagues, surely. We played several SEC teams long after GT was pulled out of the SEC. Do well with that schedule….enhance local, regional & national image….enhance recruiting….create a better revenue stream….win, win all around. DO IT!!! GETA @ Clemons GOOOO JACKETS THWGeorgie

GTBob

October 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm

If you really want to play them more, play better and you can play FSU in the acccg fairly often.

That might work if FSU made the ACC championship game more than once every 3-4 years.

fuzzybee78

October 3rd, 2012
5:00 pm

It will never be said publically but I think part of this is to allow ND an easier transition to full membership by having 4 games left instead of 3 to rotate between their traditional rivals.

I agree with 5150 the PERFECT 16 team ACC includes ND and PSU, and one will bring the other. PSU blogs enjoyed the trip to UVA a few weeks back and see a lot of positives to moving out of the B1G.

JM

October 3rd, 2012
5:06 pm

With Notre Dame there will be 15 teams in the league.

Ken Sugiura

October 3rd, 2012
5:18 pm

updated with comment from Tech associate AD Ryan Bamford about scheduling possibilities.

fuzzybee78

October 3rd, 2012
5:26 pm

I am all for the toughest schedule possible. If we could play 8 ACC and ND and 3 SEC teams I do it every year. Take the lumps in W-L but over 5-10 years it will change the perception of the school in very positive ways.

Look at where Boise and TCU were 10 years ago. Recruiting will improve and fans in the stands, sure the opposition will show up at BD, but it wont be boring! We season ticket holders will never have to endure what we saw last week. A half empty stadium of uninspired fans and an uninspired team getting beat.

No disrespect to MTSU, but lets at least lose to somebody that matters!

1 4 GT

October 3rd, 2012
5:33 pm

For true that fuzzy. (some more cajun lingo for the mutts)

Supersize that order, mutt

October 3rd, 2012
5:33 pm

@ Ken…..I like that update. I would LOVE to have a home-and-home with a Big 10 school. But he said “like institutions.” What does that mean? Purdue or Northwestern? Others would be more interesting, but there’s nothing wrong with playing either or both of those.

fuzzybee78

October 3rd, 2012
5:37 pm

sign up PSU for a home an home NOW. And tell um WSB, Welcome South Brother!

Supersize that order, mutt

October 3rd, 2012
6:03 pm

Does anybody know what time the Paul Johnson call in show starts? 6:30 or 7 ? You can listen to it online at 790thezone dot com

GT Lee

October 3rd, 2012
6:11 pm

dagnabit

October 3rd, 2012
6:40 pm

I hear that Michigan has a couple of open dates coming up.

Supersize that order, mutt

October 3rd, 2012
6:49 pm

Supersize that order, mutt

October 3rd, 2012
6:50 pm

@ UOAD……WOW.

5150 UOAD

October 3rd, 2012
7:00 pm

Super…..yes JAY should have known better than to do politics on the Facebook page. Some teammates were mad at each other. All posting were Tech fans or Jay fans but Politics do make people get mad. I don’t think that was wise for the TEAM to have out in the open with the way they are playing.

Supersize that order, mutt

October 3rd, 2012
7:01 pm

@ UOAD……I agree

5150 UOAD

October 3rd, 2012
7:05 pm

Supersize that order, mutt

October 3rd, 2012
7:05 pm

Well, 790thezone dot com is totally screwed up. The Johnson show started and then abruptly switched to some syndicated show. DAMN

5150 UOAD

October 3rd, 2012
7:06 pm

5150 UOAD

October 3rd, 2012
7:06 pm

Gt Rod

October 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm

49-28

October 3rd, 2012
8:27 pm

Supersize, because nobody cares about Tech except for the dorks on here daily.

DawgNole

October 3rd, 2012
8:50 pm

Montylick&ass
October 3rd, 2012
3:37 pm

Aub, Ala, Fla, USC, Tenn, LSU would all sell out Bobby Dodd, and I bet even A&M and Mizzou would bring a lot of fans who havent had the opportunity to come to Atlanta for football games. Face it, we aren’t likely to ever go 12-0, we won’t be playing for another national championship any time soon (ever?), and an out of conference loss won’t hurt in the ACC race. Playing a big time opponent gets the kids focused, and pays dividends down the road when you face a superior opponent in the ACCCG or a bowl.

Montylick&ass
October 3rd, 2012
3:44 pm

Seriously, what is the upside to scheduling MTSO or Elon mid-season (or ever)? Stadium is half-empty, layers lose focus, could get somebody hurt, and any benefit of 10 blowouts against that level of opponent is more than negated by one stinker like last week.
_______________________

Well said. Same for others on here who agree that the benefits of playing decent OOC opposition far outdistance the boredom of cupcake beatdowns.

DawgNole

October 3rd, 2012
8:57 pm

GTBob
October 3rd, 2012
3:54 pm

That is unfortunate. Only playing FSU at home once every 12 years is sad. We might as well not even be in the same conference. I really hate the fact that because college football is so watered down these days we have to watch games against Presbyterian instead of games against FSU.

5150 UOAD
October 3rd, 2012
4:14 pm

Screw making us pay to see 3 bad OOC games. UGa some other good teams please. having ND1 time every few years isn’t the answer.
I like the 9 games cause maybe we could even out the Schedule.
The EVEN year Schedule SUCKS for Home games.

GTVegas
October 3rd, 2012
4:27 pm

I agree. I’d rather get beaten by Tennessee or South Carolina than MTSU.
_______________________

Glad to see so many in favor of stronger OOC competition. Too many want to pull the ol’ “But everybody else does it” excuse when their favorite FBS schools buy victories by scheduling junior high teams.

crackbaby

October 3rd, 2012
9:00 pm

Ken – Thanks for the fact filled update. Seems like the ACC did a nice job of coordinating all the sports schedules.

Playing ND once every three years is about right. Maybe I’ll get to visit Touchdown Jesus some day.

Supersize that order, mutt

October 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm

@ 49 – 28……apparently you care, or you wouldn’t be on here. NEXT !!!

crap old same

October 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm

somebody fouled up the input schedules in the automation at 790. computer does what it is told, no more, no less.

crap old same

October 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm

or, it could be the NO Streaming clause thar affiliates have. We can’t stream. Don’t know if flagship can.

www

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

i thought we agreed that morons shouldn’t post their political BS on the gt football blog.

BLT

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

I agree www, 5150 post your links on opinion blogs. Please

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10:12 pm

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Buzz

October 3rd, 2012
10:44 pm

Was any progress made in balancing the schedule to move either Clemson or Va. Tech to an even year home game? Va Tech should be forced to come to Atlanta two years in a row, like we were forced to do when VT joined the league

collegeballfan

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm

“…then push hard to get penn state into the acc as the 14th team”

Agree but only after ND is a full football member.

GIVE ME A BREAK

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 pm

Starting in 2016, Gt picks up another SEC team. Should be fun. Hope I live to see it.

GIVE ME A BREAK

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

Penn St. will be 16.

Buzzzed

October 3rd, 2012
11:38 pm

What’s the benefits of playing cupcakes? I agree that we need to give up on going undefeated if that is why we schedule the cupcakes. BDS, in the CFB mecca, should showcase the best OOC match-ups when not playing conference teams. A sell-out for every OOC game and entertainment for the fans.

ylojkt

October 3rd, 2012
11:41 pm

What’s with all the love for the kiddy diddlers? I don’t want ND or Penn State in the ACC. Penn State has just been proven to have allowed rampant paedophilia and Notre Dame is being investigated for possible involvement at high levels for the same; why should we give them a safe home to which they can flee?
I say let them both rot in hell and stay off our lawns.

ylojkt

October 3rd, 2012
11:45 pm

Also, I agree that we should schedule better OOC opponents, SEC would be great – we ate them up in recent years and I would love to continue to do so. I also agree that we should get rid of the constant other division opponent, hate to see the Clemson series shrink, but it has to happen for fairness sake with the two larger divisions.

juvenal

October 4th, 2012
10:31 am

should for sure try not to schedule cupcakes that beat the crap out of us…..

This is great news for GT

October 4th, 2012
12:42 pm

Having the option to schedule a sure win like MTSU is a ……………………….ops never mind

BigGTMike

October 4th, 2012
4:21 pm

I’d love to see a rules change that says BCS teams can’t play FCS. But that won’t happen. Money talks, like Charlie Sheen

yeller bug

October 4th, 2012
8:23 pm

Yeah 5150, many would consider that this is probably not the proper forum to post u-tube videos that demonstrate how our current president is destroying this country morally and driving us over an economic cliff into fiscal oblivion. However Tech is very forward thinking and the 2 hot dogs and a coke with the purchase of a ticket may be highly appealing to the famished and unemployed. Could become a winning strategy to fill Bobby Dodd stadium.