After debacle, Tech braces for Clemson

Georgia Tech has myriad problems to fix. It can do nothing about one of its biggest.

The Yellow Jackets are playing Clemson, absolutely the wrong opponent after giving up more than 1,100 yards of offense in the past two games.

First, the No. 15 Tigers can safely be assumed to be considerably more talented than Middle Tennessee State, which dealt Tech one of its worst losses in school history Saturday at Bobby Dodd Stadium. Second, Clemson will likely spend the week plotting its revenge.

“If we don’t get ready to play a little better and a little harder against Clemson, it’ll be embarrassing,” coach Paul Johnson said Saturday. “They’ve got a great football team. We’ve got a big challenge in front of us.”

Tech has taken five of the past six games against the Tigers, including a 31-17 upset last October that dashed Clemson’s national championship aspirations. Saturday’s game will be a 3:30 p.m. kickoff at Clemson on ESPN.

“I don’t care who Georgia Tech has played, beaten or lost to,” Clemson coach Dabo Swinney said Sunday on his teleconference. “We have a tremendous amount of respect for their program, their coaching staff, the tradition of this game and all that stuff. You can just throw all that (overlooking Tech) stuff out the window.”

After permitting Virginia Tech and Miami to stage late fourth-quarter rallies to force overtime and then beat the Jackets, the Tech bubble may have popped. While Tech came within a couple plays of beating both teams, and came back from a 19-0 deficit against Miami to take a temporary 36-19 lead, the team that played Saturday had little energy or focus to give.

The Jackets were run out of their own stadium by a 49-28 score. They surrendered four turnovers and gave up 510 yards of offense to a team they had beaten by a combined 91-35 the past two seasons. This Tech team, with Johnson’s first recruiting classes having reached junior and senior status, has been expected to surpass the 2010 and 2011 teams.

The loss was possibly the most decisive home defeat to a lower-tier opponent in school history. While an FBS team, MTSU belongs to the Sun Belt Conference, a league with neither the resources nor pedigree of the ACC. The task for Johnson and his staff will be to excavate the rubble to find the team that led Virginia Tech and Miami going into the 59th minute of both games.

“I’m as disappointed as [the fans] are, I can promise you,” Johnson said. “I’m embarrassed, too. I’m going to do everything in my power to get it fixed and to get it right. That’s all I can do.”

Two defensive issues – poor tackling and being slow to the ball – could be exploited far worse by Clemson should they persist. The Tigers are ranked No. 16 in the country in total offense at 510.8 yards per game, 29 spots ahead of Middle Tennessee State (443.0 yards per game).

Clemson can attack the Jackets with playmaking wide receivers Sammy Watkins and DeAndre Hopkins and running back Andre Ellington. Watkins missed the Tigers’ 45-31 win over Boston College with an abdominal virus. Sunday, Watkins was feeling a lot better and was having blood work done, Swinney said.

“This is a whole different deal,” Swinney said. “I haven’t seen the game, I don’t know what happened. I know in the game of football, crazy things happen from time to time. Sometimes, guys don’t play like they’re capable of.”

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

384 comments Add your comment

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
7:37 pm

Ken,
This is all you’ve got for us?

I thought there would be something in here about Al Groh’s immediate resignation. What’s the haps, Cap?

McPants

September 30th, 2012
7:54 pm

GT Fan,

Stop complaining. Ken, you do an outstanding job. Keep up the good work, sir.

Go Jackets!

techfanplus

September 30th, 2012
7:55 pm

Ken, All this is old news. Why bother if you don’t have something new.

Chaps

September 30th, 2012
7:57 pm

Not Kin’s fault that Groh is still here.

Ken Sugiura

September 30th, 2012
8:03 pm

thanks for the input.

gt40pinhd

September 30th, 2012
8:11 pm

i hope the problem with mtsu was that we were looking ahead to clemson……

gt40pinhd

September 30th, 2012
8:13 pm

if we don’t overcome the poor tackling that has plagued us, saturday is going to be ugly, really ugly ( like that damn dog uga has).

71TechEE

September 30th, 2012
8:13 pm

Ken can only report what is going on, he can’t change it. And he does an excellent job of reporting. You guys need to call or e-mail the AD and/or the Coach. They are the news makers.

Buford T. Pusser

September 30th, 2012
8:13 pm

Ken,

Thanks for the great coverage you provide. That being said, I have been a season ticket holder for over thirty years and the ride home Saturday may have been the toughest in that entire span. Not because it was a loss, but because of the way they lost.

The defense is horrible and the team was totally uninspired. No emotion, no killer instinct, no flying to the ball on either side, etc. I still support CPJ but the Al Groh experiment has run its course. Fire him and pay whatever it takes to hire a top-tier DC.

Although I was not one of them, I heard the boo-birds in the stands Saturday for the defense. One of the few times I have witnessed that in almost 40 years of watching games on The Flats. If DCAG stays, the attendance will continue to decline, and it was pretty sad Saturday. Clemson may hang a full 100 on us (apologies to Steve Spurrier) if we have the same uninspired defensive effort this Saturday.

No problem with the Tigers...

September 30th, 2012
8:14 pm

…we have their number, just like Miami has Tech’s – four out of the last five ain’t just “lucky”, though the score will be something like 49-45…

Bobby Rodriguez - #3

September 30th, 2012
8:14 pm

Ken does a good job with the program and coach he has to work with…..he is not a ‘homer’ but shows some restraint…….GT could pull the upset against Clemson again…..it should be closer than expected…..GT will probably be 5-7 this season.

Dewnsav

September 30th, 2012
8:15 pm

Tech fans…you never know…you might “shock the world” Saturday…stranger things have happened…go dogs

No problem with the Tigers...

September 30th, 2012
8:16 pm

…four out of five when Dabo and CPJ were coaching…

USMC Dawg

September 30th, 2012
8:22 pm

I was expecting Tech to trounce MTSU after the disappointing loss to Miami. CPJ usually takes it out on the next opponent after a tough loss. HOWEVER, it will be interesting to see if the players get up for this game and don’t quit on CPJ.
I suspect CPJ will dig deep this week and RUN it down Clempson’s throat Saturday.
Hope Tech wins!

GO DAWGS!

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
8:23 pm

Clemson under Swinney has shown that they are eminently capable of losing, no matter what the circumstances. I would not be stunned if Tech beats them. I likewise would not be surprised if the Jackets tank, given the inability of the coaching staff to lead and inspire this team.

lindseysnot

September 30th, 2012
8:24 pm

@ no prob and Bobby…no, we’ll get the crap beat out of us again…we’ll hang 27-36 points on’em, cause their D is horrible too, but we’re not going to win that game…I say we lose 46 to 27 or 30…remember we have NO pass defense, w/Sammy Watkins being back, it’ll be a circus. I love my Jackets, but it is what it is.

StingerSplash

September 30th, 2012
8:24 pm

There’s not a lot Ken can do on a Sunday. Johnson doesn’t do a Sunday teleconference with reporters, like Richt, Spurrier and others do. So there’s not a lot of fresh quotes and fresh updates.
PJ has likely been watching film and looking at changes to make since 7 this morning at the office.

smitty

September 30th, 2012
8:26 pm

poor tackling in miami’s final drive in regulation which allowed them to tie the game was key……..poor tackling throughout the entire game with MTSU was pathetic……don’t see that getting fixed in time for the clemson game…….as others have said, this could be incredibly ugly and clemson’s D might have some shutdown capability with regards to tech’s option offense, making the possibility for a truly lopsided score likely……..watkins by himself can destroy GT……..but, as dabo himself said, stranger things have happened……..the way tech’s season has gone they could blow out clemson…..NOT

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
8:27 pm

We are gonna get killed by Clemson.

I’m stunned Ken didn’t terminate Groh, GT Fan, because that’s part of his job. Wait, what?

Buzz-ard

September 30th, 2012
8:27 pm

For a school that trains students to solve problems, design solutions and manage to results, GT sure has completely failed to deal with a dismal football program that has been completely mis-managed by an ineffective CEO (PJ). It will take GT 4 years to recover once they finally decide to fire PJ. May as well take your medicine now. Your players have quit on your coach and on your program. They have raised the white flag. Time for an all-inclusive coaching change.

BigTimeTECHFan

September 30th, 2012
8:28 pm

Tech will pull it out this week against Clemson. They will be fired up and put it to Clemson, but still will be close game like VT game

BigTimeTECHFan

September 30th, 2012
8:29 pm

Is Attaochu and L Young playing this week?

yeller bug

September 30th, 2012
8:32 pm

What we’re attacking the messenger now? Come on.

Thanks for the article Ken.

We were 2 plays from being 4-0. We were about 22 plays from being 5-0. OK, maybe 32.

We’ve got to play the rest of the games….nothing to play for but pride and perhaps a bowl game. Time to see if we man up. CPJ is our head coach, the players are our team and they need our support. Constructive criticism is fine, but incessant ranting and raving does not improve the situation.

Hal Nowell

September 30th, 2012
8:32 pm

If you read Ken’s coverage last night, you will find that when asked about the future of our DCAG, Coach Johnson responded that he “needed to watch the tape first”…I was sitting in the West Stands and don’t need to watch any “tape” of that game to know that serious changes are needed all around.

Techster

September 30th, 2012
8:33 pm

What’s the box score if we just go ahead and forfeit?

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
8:33 pm

Execution is the answer. Start with …

jacket backer

September 30th, 2012
8:34 pm

Groh needs to go now, no question. Promote an assistant and see if he can do better. The bigger issue to me seems to be the lack of effort and intensity the team displayed on Saturday. Have they quit on Johnson? If so, this will be one ugly game on Saturday and the rest of the season will be a joke. Might be time for DRad to start looking at some coaching resumes. Hope I’m wrong. It will be interesting to see the effort on Saturday. Go Jackets!

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
8:35 pm

Start with the calls on defense. Those guys have been playing confused.

Buzz-ard

September 30th, 2012
8:40 pm

Jacket Backer, the answer to your question is yes, they’ve quit on PJ. Until a change is made, your program will continue to hemorrhage losses, pride and ticket holders, not to mention revenue.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
8:42 pm

Managing to results without considering process is fundamentally stupid.

Dewnsav

September 30th, 2012
8:44 pm

if the fans quit can you blame the players for the same?? a fan is like character…a faux fan is there when you’re winning, a real fan is to be there when you’re not…go dogs

Hal Nowell

September 30th, 2012
8:47 pm

Ken, you do a fabulous job…love reading your thorough and informative updates. However, no need to be so diplomatic in reporting on Coach Groh’s banishment to the upstairs box on Saturday. What’s the inside story there? I may be totally off-base, but is there a rift among the coaches that is affecting the team’s focus?

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
8:48 pm

For Al Groh to sit in the box for the first time, they were obviously experimenting with something and it didn’t really go that well yesterday. It will be interesting to see if he’s in the box again this weekend.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
8:48 pm

He didn’t say that, Hal.

Biff Pocoroba

September 30th, 2012
8:49 pm

Groh will probably refuse to talk about the game just like he did last week. Johnson will probably wait until next week to fire him since they will have a week off and more time to prepare the defense with the interim coach. The call in show got pretty ugly last week with people telling Johson that Groh needed to go while Wes mocked them and hung up. This week will be a lot worse so they might stop taking calls like Chan did.

OldSchoolTechFanatic

September 30th, 2012
8:50 pm

The players deserve better than the coaching they have gotten.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
8:51 pm

Ideally, he wouldn’t have the option, Biff.

Craig Neal

September 30th, 2012
8:52 pm

Ken – I heard the attendance was not good Saturday but have not found a figure anywhere. Do you have it?

Techster

September 30th, 2012
8:52 pm

There could be a major difference for football players who quit on their coaches and their teams. It is called the “One Year Rule.” Football scholarships are given one year at a time, fellows, so if you don’t want to give each play, each game, each season your best effort, you may just not have that scholarship when next year rolls around. Every year, a coach has up to 85 scholarships to offer and he can give them to current players or brand new ones. The only scholarship limit is 85. A coach could clean house anytime he wants…

Russ

September 30th, 2012
8:54 pm

Keep PJ and AG!

Buzz-ard

September 30th, 2012
8:55 pm

Swapping out your DC is appling a band-aid to a gunshot wound. The patient is in shock, bleeding life and in immediate need of professional trauma treatment. No one wants to play for PJ.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
8:56 pm

Do you have any information not present in the media to support that, Buzz-ard?

Hal Nowell

September 30th, 2012
9:03 pm

George Stein, according to the AJC quoteboard:
“After the game, I’m just considering going and watching the tape.”
- Johnson on whether he’s considering any changes on the staff

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:05 pm

Correct. You misquoted him.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
9:07 pm

HEY yeller bug…..I’m still laughing @ your 22 plays..on, 32 post …..I’mm still laughing….THANKS….I needed that real bad….between you and the the Falcons pulled out their game, I am getting done pouting.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
9:08 pm

could only make barely coherent sentences for laughing and looking thru laughter tears

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
9:11 pm

Like I said elsewhere, good thing we have Tevin and Groh to blame so nothing sticks to teflon CPJ. How long can you ride one win over UGA, one tainted and revoked ACC championship, and a few wins over Clemson? (I mean, it’s Clemson after all…)

Craig Neal

September 30th, 2012
9:13 pm

Never mind about attendance…..I got it from the school’s athletic department site – Attendance: 39270……granted, everyone knew it would be low based on the opponent, a noon kickoff, and coming off the loss to Miami, but that is pitiful…..not what D-Rad had in mind when he hired CPJ to be a team that the Metro Atlanta area would be interested in……the next coach GT hires should run an offense which throws 60 times a game…..this is bad and could get a lot worse unless GT beats Boston College and BYU.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:15 pm

Johnson deserves plenty of blame, billybob; he hired Groh. I think the issue is that some people aren’t quite so reactionary and we also recognize that paying him $12MM not to coach Tech is probably not going to happen.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
9:15 pm

Techster….to the best of my knowledge, GT does not pull scholarships as long as you make your grades in class. If anyone knows different, I will stand corrected.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:16 pm

If we are gonna throw it 60 times, why not keep Johnson and run the same offense. You’ll be criticizing the next guy because we don’t run the ball enough. I guess that’s what’s fun about being a critic – you never have to make any decisions.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
9:18 pm

This team is not the 1st college football team to “quit” in a game & it will not be the last. Hell, even the Falcons have done it & they are paid good $$ to play.

Buzz-ard

September 30th, 2012
9:19 pm

I agree, George Stein. And PJ’s processes are flawed. But what matters most is his results are unacceptable. I know his buy-out is high, but if GT keeps him the program is perpetuating the pathetic position that poor results on the football field are acceptable and expected because GT has tougher admission standards. Time to embrace high standards and make your coach accountable to those standards.

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
9:20 pm

Is the point of Paul Johnson’s scheme to put up gaudy stats and prove his offense works? Shouldn’t the plan be to win football games for Georgia Tech? Are we as fans letting the success of the first point distract us from the pretty dismal failure of the second? Moral victories don’t count, pretty stats don’t go in the “Win” column, and “I’m smarter than you” only works when you back it up with results.

USMC Dawg

September 30th, 2012
9:22 pm

I hope Tech can find a way to win, but you know Dabo Swinney will be out for revenge.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:23 pm

I need to understand what processes are flawed. Convince me I’m wrong.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:24 pm

Further, offer alternatives and why that person would be more successful. Complete the thought.

Beat klimpsun

September 30th, 2012
9:25 pm

Issues are much more than just poor tackling. we just got manhandled up front. and could not get off a block for anything. That double stack receiver set was brilliant in getting us to de-commit the extra guys to run support in the middle. Did they ever line up with a tight end? once they got the linebackers to cheat outside to cover the slots or that 2nd receiver, we were toast. Face it, we’re just not that strong. I’m wondering if the weight room has been off limits for the last few weeks.

BIrmingham Jacket

September 30th, 2012
9:29 pm

Everyone on here knows I’m as pessimistic about our program as anyone…

But that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a really close game Saturday against Clemson; possibly an upset.

Folks:

1) Their coach, while excellent recruiter, is a dummy when it comes to X’s and O’s compared to Johnson (although probably not Al Groh).

2) We had 2 or 3 starters on D, out for Saturday, against MTSU, that will be back this Sat.

3) Went to game. No fans showed up. And the abysmal energy level transferred to the 18-21 year old players.

Not saying we will win. But do agree with the experts in Vegas who predict a +/- 10 point game.

It will be close. And if Vad Lee plays more than TW, we might win.

PLAYMAKER

September 30th, 2012
9:34 pm

Hire Lance Thompson and Giff Smith a dual D. COOR. and Rec. Coor. then CPJ problems will befixed

BIrmingham Jacket

September 30th, 2012
9:38 pm

@ PLAYMAKER

Giff Smith would be huge.

Any chance Tenuta would come back? He could do “a lot” with “a little” most of the time.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:40 pm

I’d love to have Tenutaback, Birmingham. His defense with Johnson’s offense would be good. Still need a young guy who would recruit like a madman, though. I wish I knew who that guy was.

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
9:41 pm

george: If you had an employee making a salary that was that large a percentage of your company’s budget, and he was performing as poorly relative to stated expectations (yours and his), would you not think that you should be free to openly discuss his shortcomings vis a vie the “bottom line” results? And further, if results were poor but also getting worse over time, would you not think that there was some cause for concern? I mean, the emperors clothes are off and it is not a pretty sight! You can choose to keep your head in the sand and blame everyone and everything except CPJ…I mean after all we are among the best at making excuses…but don’t we deserve better than this?

Jacket Deflation Nation

September 30th, 2012
9:41 pm

Georgia Tech can’t just “regroup” after getting slaughtered by a high school football team. This team they played got beat my McNeese State! Now we can only try to salvage what is left of the season and set new goals like not losing by as much as this weekend and having enough offense to beat Duke. A bowl game is out of the question. Now the Jackets must survive and hope not to embarrass the fan base by having a defense that couldn’t compete against Georgia State; who played Tennessee better than Tech played Middle Tennessee State. Groh rhymes with Go for a reason. Tech has to throw much more often then they can try running the B back up the middle. As for the defense? They would be better off to bring a roll up mattresses on to the field to lounge on. At least then there might a chance the ball carrier would trip over them.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
9:42 pm

I have what I consider a valid question. NCAA Article 11 states how many coaches & what type a college may have on staff for football. GT/CPJ has the latitude to add more coaches. Is it CPJ’s decision or GT’s to not maximize the staff. We could have 1 HC, 9 assistants, 2 graduate assistants & a S&C coach. Can GT not afford to have more coaches on staff or does CPJ just not want them because he has always done it this way? http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/how-many-college-football-coaches/#.UGjy7K5F8Sk

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:45 pm

Not if he was hamstrung by the organization, billybob. If he couldn’t get the sales people he wanted or needed (or both) of something to that effect, then no, I wouldn’t blame him. I would blame the organization for allocating resources to one person and not giving him the tools to be successful.

I have offered no opinion on Johnson tonight. I have asked those calling for a scalp to show they’ve put some thought into it.

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
9:46 pm

I feel so sorry for Ken Sugiura, having to put on a happy face and write upbeat and positive articles about the Jackets after the last two weeks, when the whole time he is throwing up in his mouth. How can you go in to those press conference with smug CPJ after a game like this and not want to throw a shoe at him when he starts spouting the same old stuff

Biff Pocoroba

September 30th, 2012
9:47 pm

You don’t want DRad trying to hire a new football coach now. He couldn’t even afford to bring in the coach from Richmond for basketball after having to pay Hewitt millions to go away. We couldn’t afford to keep Bryan Shelton this summer for tennis when he is the only coach in school history to win a NCAA championship. If we have to pay a large buyout for Johnson right now, the only hope would be to bring in the coach from Buford or some other local high school for a few years. For now, just be happy with 7-8 wins and ecstatic with the rare nine win seasons. This offense won’t work against teams with a good defense and time to prepare, so that will cost us 3 or 4 games a year. The best thing you can do is get Netflix and a parking pass for Stone Mountain and the state parks and just get out on Saturdays and don’t watch for the next five years and you will feel a lot better.

Buzz-ard

September 30th, 2012
9:49 pm

George Stein, in what way(s) is PJ hamstrung?

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
9:50 pm

1 HC..1 QB coach..1 receiver coach..1 OL coach..1 DL coach..1 LB coach..1 DB coach..1 ST coach..2 Grad Ass’t..1 S&C coach….still 2 short of the NCAA maximum limit.

BIrmingham Jacket

September 30th, 2012
9:51 pm

@ Jacket Deflation Nation

I hear you.

But I don’t think it’s a sinking ship, just yet.

1) The offense is scoring enough points to win, now.

2) The production will improve when Vad Lee takes over at QB. And he will.

3) The 34 defense is as appropriate to our talent, as Phil Mickleson playing golf right handed.

4) Groh will be gone after or before this season.

5) If we can get a recruiter like Giff Smith in here, and another Tenuta at DC, we will win 8-10 games/yr. easily.

“NO TEAM IS EVER AS BAD OR AS GOOD AS YOU THINK THEY ARE.”

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
9:52 pm

George: he knew the drill when he got here, and we and he both said what our goals and expectations were. He is the head coach, it is up to him to solve whatever problems are causing the poor results, and overcome whatever obstacles are preventing success. HEAD COACH means a lot more than X’s and O’s. It means recruiting, it means hiring good staff, it means schmoozing fat cat donors and corporate sponsors, and it means having the political savvy to get the AD to give you what you need to succeed. If he cant manage the rest of that, and only wants to do the on-field coaching, then he needs to be the OC and get somebody else to be HC.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
9:52 pm

throw a shoe at him….now that right there is funny, I don’t care who you are.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:54 pm

He has a smaller stadium with a bunch of fans that don’t care and they wonder why we aren’t successful. He competes in recruiting with Georgia, Clemson, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State and more and he can’t offer them the breadth of majors they can and requires more than the NCAA minimum for admission.

Those are facts. They don’t explain the atrocious tackling and the like, but they explain a little of why we aren’t where some want us to be.

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
9:55 pm

14 GT: If we cant have a little fun, what fun is it? If we take all this stuff too seriously we will all end up perched on a ledge somewhere sooner or later.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
9:55 pm

We gave him the contract, billybob? Was he supposed to turn it down?

CloudmanJacket

September 30th, 2012
9:57 pm

When will CPJ’s seat really heat up. It should’ve by now.

Donnie Davis - Arena Football League Legend

September 30th, 2012
9:59 pm

Even the teams coached by my head coach Bill Lewis performed better than yesterday…..Johnson has built a horrible football team by recruiting less than average players – there are maybe 4 players on the entire roster who will ever even sniff an NFL roster: 1) Attachou; 2) Uzzi; 3) Watts; 4) Orwin (practice squad).

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:00 pm

You paying the freight, Cloudman?

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
10:01 pm

George: At least he could TRY to look like he admits there is something wrong and that maybe, just maybe, HE needs to change something about his approach to get things turned in the right direction. I am so sick of this. The basketball program in the toilet, the baseball team with their annual flame-out in the post-season, and now the football team headed back into Bill Lewis territory…it is just really hard to be a Jacket sports fan these days.

Rodeo

September 30th, 2012
10:02 pm

PjJ appears to

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
10:02 pm

George….I love your analysis. What you say above certainly does hamstring recruiting efforts. And I have said the same about the big contract. Much like ARod. If my boss wanted to pay a 1/4 billion over 10 years, who am I to turn such largess down?

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
10:03 pm

Do we have a women’s equestrian team? Maybe they are good and I can become a fan. How about lacrosse…are we any good at that? Anybody have any suggestions for other sports I can follow, since the big three have been nothing but disappointments the past many years?

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:03 pm

What good does it do for him to fire Groh now? It’s September 30. He has who he has.

As for hoops, I buy tickets every year but hoops isn’t really my game. Baseball is notoriously random in small samples, so if you think there’s anything to read into failure in a weekend regional, I can’t help you.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
10:04 pm

@billybob
“I feel so sorry for Ken Sugiura, having to put on a happy face and write upbeat and positive articles about the Jackets after the last two weeks, when the whole time he is throwing up in his mouth. ”

You are not aware that Ken is not a Tech fan, are you? Ken is a reporter, and his beat is the Tech beat. Ken digs for news, choosing not to report only the stuff that is put out by public relations. If you are looking for spin, you will be better served looking elsewhere.

CloudmanJacket

September 30th, 2012
10:04 pm

@ George; I have no idea what the financial commitment is to CPJ. Maybe they cannot fire him, but in my opinion he needs to go. He is a terrible head coach because he is an average OC, terrible recruiter, terrible at hiring assistants, etc. etc.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:05 pm

Thanks, 1 4 GT. I am frustrated, but we need to have a constructive discussion, not a bunch of complaining.

Taylor Bennett dressed as Tinkie Winkie at Halloween

September 30th, 2012
10:05 pm

This is year five of CPJ’s tenure….it is his program…..this train wreck of a season is all on him…do not blame Al Groh……all of these fans who loved CPJ’s abrasiveness when he was winning are now turning on him….the stands are empty…..4-8 is likely…..please make it end.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:06 pm

He is owed $12MM, Cloudman. If you want to pony up, that’s your business.

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
10:07 pm

As i said, we are the best at making excuses…thanks George for summing up our current list of favorites. So, why don’t we just drop out of the ACC and compete as a mid-major? Maybe we could get Vandy, Duke, and Wake to join us…

Coleman Rudolph was right.....Beau Bock is right.

September 30th, 2012
10:09 pm

When you stop playing pro-style offense then you stop getting pro-style football players to want to play for you. At least with Chan Gailey GT could count on 7-8 wins a season. It will take a minor miracle to make a bowl game this year.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 30th, 2012
10:10 pm

I think I am more embarrassed by the behavior (i.e., remarks on these blogs) by some so-called Tech fans, than I was by the team’s performance yesterday. Sure, there are things to criticize and that obviously need to be fixed, but the comments made on here by some of you are just plain offensive to me, and I am ashamed of you guys. George Stein, and 1 4 GT, and even Birmingham Jacket (whose comments I have not always liked or agreed with) are virtually the only posters on this blog to show any semblance of rational thought becoming a true Tech fan. Some of you are no better than the worst of the trolls who post incessantly on our blogs. In fact, since the game, even some of the generally offensive trolls have been showed more class than some of you guys have shown. I am sick of it.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:10 pm

Am I wrong here, billybob?

Supersize that order, mutt

September 30th, 2012
10:12 pm

“have shown more class”…..not “have been showed more class”

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
10:12 pm

Delbert: He is not a fan, but he writes for a paper that depends upon the fans to read his stuff and hopefully some of the ads on the same page. If he crapped on the program as much as he probably wants to and by all rights should, he would not keep his job long. If this was a New York or Philly paper, he would have torn CPJ a great big new one this weekend after that @#$% on the Flats, but he had to bite his tongue and play nice. That’s all I am saying…it must be really hard not to just let loose on this train wreck, and the “engineer” steering it off the tracks while insisting that his way is the best way.

Bring Back the Scottish - Rite Thanksgiving Day J-V game

September 30th, 2012
10:14 pm

I expect losses to Clemson, North Carolina, and UGA. GT finishes 6-6 and goes to a bowl game….wins it to break the losing streak and builds some momentum for next year…….it won’t be easy though……there have been some bad GT defenses in recent years, but this may be the worst.

Play Vad Lee

September 30th, 2012
10:15 pm

why not at this point.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:15 pm

He’s not a columnist, billybob.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
10:16 pm

Air Raid? Not pro style. Kids love it. Shotgun read option? Kids love it, not pro style.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 30th, 2012
10:17 pm

@ Delbert…..I apologize for omitting your name from the short list of rational posters. Yours have been rational and informed also

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
10:17 pm

For most of us bloggers, complaining is all we can do. A constructive discussion is what I prefer….about this long after a bad game. I got home Saturday not depressed, but very disappointed. It is good I live alone at such times. But I will be ready for another dose come next Saturday & hoping & cheering in front of the flat screen. Just almost like at the stadium. I had considered going to Clemson until I looked at their stadium diagram, seat locations & prices. No thanks. Like my vote, my ticket price is all the influence I have on what happens. I am in no way ready for CPJ to go, but I would hope that people are watching. Groh, I am thinking was a mistake from the start. Our defense has more talent than the last 2 games show.

billyBobjacket

September 30th, 2012
10:18 pm

George… probably not wrong, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it. I guess I just want you and some of the others to be a little more P!$$ED off about it all, and quit defending CPJ like none of this is his fault. He said he could win here, so if he doesn’t then he needs to go!

UGA = Yawn

September 30th, 2012
10:19 pm

We will lose to Clemson. They are due and we are just plain awful. They are about 10 times faster then us. We can not defend the pass – just think about defending it when they run right by us at super fast speed. Time for a change at GT. I didn’t renew my season club seats this year. Surprised at all of you that renewed your tickets. After the last 5 games of last year, why would anyone think we would be in a better place this year. Last year’s losses at the end of the year carried over to this year. I don’t think you need any more data to realize all IS lost at GT.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 30th, 2012
10:19 pm

Mutt trolls are the ones complaining. Go read something you understand. Thanks Ken for everything that you do for the real GT fans. Miami gets some credit for the MTSU loss. Hopefully the hangover from the Miami game is gone now so that the players can move on. Clemson is right to be concerned because the GT players are probably a little disappointed, to put it mildly. Looking for a totally different team to show on Saturday. As always ” GO JACKETS.”

Play Vad Lee

September 30th, 2012
10:19 pm

the only good thing about this season is the new uniform.

Kool Aid Drinkers Unite

September 30th, 2012
10:21 pm

That’s right Give Me A Break…..we’ve got Clemson right where we want them……overconfident.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
10:23 pm

@billyBob 10:18 – I sure hope you vote this November.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:24 pm

I’m not defending Johnson, billybob. He is responsible for the failure of the defense, too. As I said last night, I stood up one time yesterday on third down (the play right before we threw the pick). I’m more numb than angry, but I am bitterly disappointed that we have no big games left to play. I look forward to the season every year, and now it’s probably lost. Believe me, I care.

I think we need to be constructive, not reactionary, in our discussion of things, though.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 30th, 2012
10:24 pm

Just because some of us don’t trash Johnson on a public forum doesn’t mean we are happy or satisfied, and it doesn’t mean we don’t want to see some change. But totally slamming a man for giving everything he has (and I DO believe Johnson does that) to building a team and winning is totally uncalled for and lacking in class. Be better than that, guys

PE Major from Western Carolina is ready to fry some fish

September 30th, 2012
10:26 pm

I am going to talk about mentally challenged people this Wednesday night on my call in show….I cannot wait…..then I am going to instruct Tech fans to punch MTSU fans who get in their faces…..I have bigger fish to fry……this week I may try to fry some turkey neck….very fatty, though…..then, I am going to be a jerk to Wes Durham……after that, I am going to yell at Jeff Woolverton as the broadcast team’s sideline reporter…..who else can I offend…..so many people….so little time….I am coach fish fry.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 30th, 2012
10:27 pm

yeah, that was a really classy post. That’s exactly the kind of doltish behavior I am embarrassed to see on a Tech blog

juice sourcer

September 30th, 2012
10:30 pm

I think Clemson may hang 100 on Tech….

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
10:31 pm

billyBob….I left the stadium really po’ed & if CAG had stepped in front of me, he would have at least carried a severe tongue lashing home. But what good does it do me? I fuss & stew in my own juices for a while & about 24-30 hours later, rational thought processes start kicking in. I got home and masochistically read all of the blogs until about 1:30 AM. Woke up the next morning & finished reading them over coffee. As I watched the Falcons & NASCAR, sanity was returning. I made a post or two. I am still disappointed. I “suffer” more over GT losses than any other team. But nobody seeks my counsel about how to fix what is wrong. so I vent here a little and work my way back to being a semi intelligent, rational, thinking man. I can do no more. And like so many of us, I probably care to much.

Older Golder

September 30th, 2012
10:31 pm

Is CPJ still mad at the Zone for talking too much about UGA? He has given them a lot to talk about this week. GameDay is going to be in Columbia, UGA is 5-0 and set up for a run at the SECCG and possible MNCG and we lose to a team from the Sun Belt Conference. This is not what was expected after 45-42 in 2009.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:33 pm

Sheesh. There’s this radical piece of punctuation called a period. Overuse of ellipses is not attractive.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 30th, 2012
10:33 pm

Maybe one day the AJC will have the guts to keep from posting comments from idiots that have nothing to add to a blog.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
10:35 pm

I had the strong urge on Saturday to jump over the wall and run out and tackle somebody. That Cunningham kid would have made me look like more than the fool I already am, though.

Play Vad Lee

September 30th, 2012
10:36 pm

BYU scored a lot of points Friday against Hawaii….granted, Hawaii is one of the worst teams in college football, but that game does not look as easy as it did at the start of the season. What are the reasons why Vad Lee should not play? Are we playing for a meaningless bowl game….it would make sense to me to play Vad and get him experience to be ready to play in Athens.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
10:36 pm

Cared “too” much….always have….always will….but you know what….GT is my horse, if they never win another race!!!! GOOOOO JACKETS THWGeorgie

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
10:37 pm

Damn, that felt good!!

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
10:37 pm

CPJ is 36-22 right now. The defense sucked before CAG and sucks now. Good games coming up and plenty to be discussed. CPJ isn’t going anywhere so let’s hope he using all this as a learning tool.

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

D

September 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

Johnson said. “I’m embarrassed, too. I’m going to do everything in my power to get it fixed and to get it right. That’s all I can do.”

Then the first thing you can do to fix it is to resign from your position as head coach. Your getting paid a couple million a year and you’ve got yourself brainwashed with your offense. Yeah you had one good year, but so did Charlie Weiss @ ND, Tyrone Willingham @ ND, Gene Chizik @ Auburn, etc….The ACC is already an embarrassment in college football and until people get real at GT our team will be a joke. You make poor coaching decisions and our defense is garbage. There is a reason that Al Groh is not the head coach at Virginia. John Tenuta should have been the first coach you should have went out of your way to keep.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
10:39 pm

Give Me A Break – I’ve got the names to contact, if you want them. A couple of us have been trying for over a year.

Double M 2

September 30th, 2012
10:39 pm

D’rad should step in. No way does groh remain. Groh should’ve been gone after last year, what did u think was gonna happen. The same ol crap, a bunch of quiters. No way are these kids giving a 100% an representing the institute in a positive way. Show some guts like Brad K an hang in there. Life is ruff but don’t quit, keep digging an fight back.

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
10:40 pm

I too would love to see Vad Lee play more. But it is not up to me. I believe we will see more & more of him as the season progresses.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:41 pm

The defense sucked before CAG and sucks now.

This is correct, and it’s Johnson’s biggest failure as a coach. His defense has cost the team too many games and is the root of the criticism.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
10:41 pm

1 4 Gt – Like the old buddy Holly song, and the John Mellenkamp re-do, “Rave On!”

Ken Sugiura

September 30th, 2012
10:41 pm

Tech has nine position coaches, the maximum allowed – Al Groh, Andy McCollum, Charles Kelly and Joe Speed on defense. Mike Sewak, Brian Bohannon, Lamar Owens and Buzz Preston on offense. Dave Walkosky on special teams.
Craig Neal – I’m going to guess the 39K number was tickets sold/distributed, not turnstile. that’s usually the way it’s done. I couldn’t see all of the west stands, but it wouldn’t surprise me if actual attendance were mid-30’s or lower.
Thanks for the kind words to those who offered them. it always means a lot. should be an interesting week.

PE Major from Western Carolina is ready to fry some fish

September 30th, 2012
10:41 pm

D – I am only in my fifth season as coach. I need five more to get ‘my players’ into this system. Do you want hush puppies with your fish? Forget MTSU, I have bigger fish to fry. Yabba Dabba Dabo is like a large mouth bass. Where is my Bass-O-Matic? I am coach fish fry.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 30th, 2012
10:42 pm

Thanks D, I sent one,too.

Coleman Rudolph Was right.....Beau Bock is right.

September 30th, 2012
10:45 pm

Double M2 – I do not think the team quit. They are not very talented – recruiting matters.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:46 pm

There’s a joke to be made about Groh counting toward our limit, but discretion being the better part of valor, I’ll pass.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 30th, 2012
10:48 pm

I’ll bet CAG will be back on the field Saturday.

Bubba Head is a better DUI lawyer than George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:48 pm

If there were less than 30,000 fans in attendance on Saturday then the experiment is over.

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
10:49 pm

This is CAG’s third season if I’m not mistaken. CPJ sits and talks to him just about every day I’m sure. He put faith in a man and let him try but things just haven’t worked out. All you can do is give people a shot, just like where you work. It’s a 50/50 shot and sometimes you come out smelling like roses. These dudes put their pants on just like we do.

yeller bug

September 30th, 2012
10:49 pm

Mathematically, I think the std dev. of player performance at the college level is quite high. Our team was very flat on Saturday. The fans (those who showed up) were flat and I include myself among the guilty. We are a more talented team than MTSU, but our team was down, their team was (to their credit) up and it shows you that you can’t take anyone lightly or you will get beat. The worst part is how we laid down at the end.

It is the coach’s job to get his team up and we’ll see what CPJ will do.

As for game strategy (and in our case, I use the term loosely), it seemed we did not have an answer to their cluster formation sets at WR. Why didn’t we bring the safeties up? So CAG was disappointing in his adjustments and the players certainly didn’t tackle. On offense, if you’re going to bring Vad in which you should do every game for more than one series, put him in the pistol formation PLEASE and have him throw the ball! His throwing will set up the run. I disagree with many posts because I think we do have talent on this team–we just not using it effectively on either side of the ball and it is most noticeable on the D side.

There is no need to play conservative any more. Blitz, pass, run trick plays, play wide open….let it fly. If we’re going to go down in flames, let’s make it a spectacular thing to see—-maybee we can bee a Phoenix Jacket and rise from the flames and sting the rest of our opponents. It’s still mathematically possible.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:49 pm

How do you know, Bubba?

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
10:50 pm

BTW people it’s really late but………. FIRST! Where do I pickup my prize? LOL!
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FYI McPants, I WAS KIDDING IN THE OPENING POST! I think Ken does a swell job. However, I sure as heck wouldn’t have been saddened had there actually been an Al Groh resignation. I’ve been an AG supporter since his hiring, and really thought he’d do well as GT’s DC. Heck, he won 2 ACC CAY as UVA’s HC. Being DC would mean A LOT fewere responsibiliies, IMO, giving him a great opportunity to focus on the D.

After the first 3 games this season it really appeared his players had figured out his D scheme. But after suffering through yesterday’s debacle I have ZERO confidence in AG, and think he should be gone ASAP! (the Miami debacle doesn’t look so bad now after seeing what they did to TENUTA’s NCST D)

I don’t see any way GT will beat Clemson. I know their D is suspect, but I severely doubt AG’s D can stop Clemson any time the Tigers have the ball. GT will have to have the ball for 45 minutes, and score (TD or FG) on each possession.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 30th, 2012
10:52 pm

Students told DRad why they weren’t going to noon games. So the number in attendance doesn’t surprise me.

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
10:53 pm

Could be that a lot of fans like me did the 3 game package and MTSU wasn’t part of it, Bubba Head. I don’t have the time and money to go to every game.

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
10:53 pm

George Stein
September 30th, 2012
9:40 pm
I’d love to have Tenutaback, Birmingham. His defense with Johnson’s offense would be good. Still need a young guy who would recruit like a madman, though. I wish I knew who that guy was.
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Steiner, I know who that guy is! Heck, we all do …. I just don’t know how young of guy WnE is??

PE Major from Western Carolina is ready to fry some fish

September 30th, 2012
10:54 pm

Tartar sauce for Sammy Watkins. Does Woody Dantzler or Tajh Boyd play QB for Clem’s Son? It does not matter. The Clemson offense will be fried by Al Groh’s defensive unit. The Goon Squad OL will open holes for TW like you’ve never seen before. Come and get it!!!! It’s time for a fish fry!!! You don’t have to be Catholic to enjoy a good fish fry on Friday or Saturday! I am coach fish fry.

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
10:54 pm

If WnE’s too old, maybe we could get the other “resident genius” Headley Lamar!

1 4 GT

September 30th, 2012
10:55 pm

That was a unique wide out formation MTSU ran with 2 receivers stacked out like they were. Really spread the D out. That created some problems I’m guessing. Don’t believe I’ve ever seen that before.

Bubba Head is a better DUI lawyer than George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:57 pm

George – I wrote a book called 101 Ways to Avoid a Drunk Driving Conviction – All you ever did was go on the Regular Guys show with Larry WACHS.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
10:58 pm

The guys need to remember how hard they fought when they beat Clemson last year.

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:58 pm

Ha! Maybe, GT Fan. Honestly, I would think Lamar Owens should take that position if he can handle it. He’s only in his mid 20’s. Why the hell isn’t he in front of every recruit we have right now?

Supersize that order, mutt

September 30th, 2012
10:58 pm

LMAO @ GT Fan

George Stein

September 30th, 2012
10:58 pm

C!kon, Bubba. Those segments are awesome.

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
10:59 pm

Sorry for the possible tasteless humor here, but I see the link where a “Tech fan fell from the railing for a second week in a row” ……….

I didn’t happen to be a singing fat lady this week, did it?

GT Joe

September 30th, 2012
11:00 pm

Time for Vad yet? Or are we trying to red shirt him for the second time?

GT Joe

September 30th, 2012
11:03 pm

CPJ blew a perfect opportunity to get vad a start…. The fact thatvad hardly played tells me CPJ will never start vad this season, therefore I’m now officially on the bandwagon to fire CPJ

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
11:03 pm

Trying someone new as the DC really couldn’t get any worse, could it Stein?
I mean, DAM*!, I’m sure we all thought AG couldn’t gotten some sort of resemblance to an Chris Long in 3 seasons.

I gotta believe there’s at least ONE the major states for GT, i.e. GA, AL, SC, FL, TN, and NC.

I’m flabbergasted that his DL is so bad.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
11:04 pm

The interns need to be more careful with headlines. That one confused me at first. It got me to click on the link, though.

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
11:04 pm

oops … AG could have gotten

ToeMeetsLeather

September 30th, 2012
11:04 pm

I am still at a loss for words at how bad our defense played yesterday. The kids appear to have lost all confidence in Groh’s system. Being without Sneezy and Young(and Watts for a big chunk of the game) was also huge. I thought our talent level on D had truly improved over the past couple of years, but we still seem to have very little depth.

It was obvious from the get-go that the two OT losses had zapped both the team’s, and the fan base’s energy level. CPJ had a tough job yesterday and failed to get it done( it didn’t help matters that every ball bounced MTS’ s way either).

I hope after CPJ watches the game tape, that he realizes if he will run the 4th quarter offense with Lee at QB that it will provide a much more balanced attack. And surely he will come to the conclusion that the 3-4 is not the answer at TECH. I still think CPJ is the man for the job, but those two OT losses have really made it an up hill battle. I don’t envy his position.

Circle the wagons Jackets and dig deep for some pride.

PE Major from Western Carolina is ready to fry some fish

September 30th, 2012
11:05 pm

Good night men…..I will be dreaming of a lot of fish to fry next Saturday. Ask Mark Bradley – I am a coaching genius and I still outcoached Mark Richt on Saturday. Who cares if UGA is 5-0. I have the best high school offense in college football and I am the best fish fry cook since Pepper Rodgers….come and get some bass for dinner…..fish fry baby!

GT Joe

September 30th, 2012
11:05 pm

Great coach, but if he thinks Tevin gives us the best chance to win, he has no grasp of reality.

GT Fan

September 30th, 2012
11:10 pm

36 pts and 400 yds offense
28 pts and 400 yds offense

BOTH weeks are good enought to win 85-90% of the time. PJ’s O, even with a ball-hoggin, call-my-own-# QB.

But a D that surrenders:
42 pts and 500+yds and
49 pts and 500+yds
Will lose you games 98-100% of the time.

Again, the O isn’t the problem. And, IMO, It will get better when Vad is ready to start.

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
11:14 pm

CPJ might just be cutting CAG a break because Al just needs the money from this one last season to finally buy that lake house on Tahoe. I’ve sure they’ve chummed it up a little over the last couple years. You don’t just kick an old man to the curb.

GTGirl

September 30th, 2012
11:14 pm

Ken-how many starters did we have out on defense Saturday against MTSU? I’m thinking 4 or 5 if you count Fred Holton. Louis Young told me he would be back for Clemson and Attachou should be too. If you read Roddy Jones’ blog on RamblingWreck.com we had 2 freshmen playing on ‘D’ that had not started before. All that said, I think Groh should go too. Most of the UVA fans could not believe we hired him in the first place.
Go Jackets! I still believe in our team. Now please pray we will have all our starters back this week.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
11:14 pm

The problem is, we don’t know the reality. Maybe CPJ thinks playing Lee as a 2nd year guy is sending him out with 2 rounds in a 14-round clip. Maybe he observes that Washington has the full load, and he sees the thing jams occasionally at inopportune times. So he puzzles, what is the best plan, here?

GT Joe

September 30th, 2012
11:15 pm

Gt fan: “when vad is ready to start”? Wtf. Vad will never be ready to start. CPJ is probably trying to get another year of eligibility for Tevin so we can throw away a third season on Tevin.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
11:19 pm

By the way, Clemson is allowing 20% more that 400 yards of offense a game.Not all of it was due to the Thompson kid at FSU.

GT Joe

September 30th, 2012
11:19 pm

Delbert: cpj’s obviously cannot see clearly regarding Tevin and vad. He has too much invested in Tevin now to bench him. If vad comes in and runs the table, CPJ will get exposed for the fool that he is for waiting so long to bench Tevin.

Vad should have started last year. If Nesbitt can learn on the fly, so could vad.

Al Bundy

September 30th, 2012
11:21 pm

@Supersize that order, mutt

I typically find your post to be good, constructive and informative, but calling out the people on this blog for calling it like they see it is wrong. If a player is not performing at his position the coach will replace him with someone who will. Let’s face it CPJ is failing at his job. He has lost 8 out of his last 12 games and with his recruits that were supposed to be better. I don’t think I need to re-hash our record agains GA, VT, Miami and Bowl games. You can’t blame this teams performance on injuries, the refs, bad weather or anything else. When the team doesn’t perform it’s ultimately the coach’s responsibility. He is paid way too much money to get a pass for the performance of this team.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
11:25 pm

Seriously, now. If Groh gets fired, which graduate assistant is going to fill the void with the shuffling of responsibilities? Groh will retire at the end of the season, I presume. What good does it do to be short-handed with games left to play?

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
11:32 pm

Oh, excuse me. I completely forgot about the possibility of outsourcing Groh’s job to China.

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
11:32 pm

Maybe Walkosky will be promoted.

GTGirl

September 30th, 2012
11:33 pm

Hopefully Groh will retire at the end of the season.

GT Joe

September 30th, 2012
11:34 pm

Joe speed probably takes over for groh…but it will not happen anyways.

WnE

September 30th, 2012
11:36 pm

re:
Techster
September 30th, 2012
8:52 pm

There could be a major difference for football players who quit on their coaches and their teams. It is called the “One Year Rule.” Football scholarships are given one year at a time, fellows, so if you don’t want to give each play, each game, each season your best effort, you may just not have that scholarship when next year rolls around. Every year, a coach has up to 85 scholarships to offer and he can give them to current players or brand new ones. The only scholarship limit is 85. A coach could clean house anytime he wants…
_____________

If your fantasy world were to exist then the NCAA would also have to allow the players to transfer without sitting out for one yr.

IMO the players should be able to transfer now without sitting out one yr., that is the dumbest rule in all of sports.

If the coaches are allowed to clean house in your fantasy then players should be allowed to dump poor coaching also!

I am amazed that you come up with this “clean house crap” as if the players are to blame when the BLAME lies clearly on the shoulders of CPJ.

Lots of GT fans are in denial about CPJ and won’t attribute ANYTHING BAD to him.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

McCollum would be more likely, if that were to happen. It still would be bedlam. I still don’t see the rationale for doing it during the season. The man is not a traitor, he is trying to do his job.

Silly Mutts

September 30th, 2012
11:43 pm

@Al B……. First rational thing on here! I really respected some of the things on here but lately it hasn’t been too good. Not to pick on Supersize but he is awfully wrong and has been for three years now. A good example of why politicians just can’t get anything done. I think SS has good intentions but he just doesn’t know what he is talking about. He is a GT fan though and because of that I still respect him. Reality is that PJ is just here to prove his offensive system works. Winning is just a bonus. He doesn’t care about GT because it is a stepping stone to wherever he can take his offense. If he did care he would have hired a real defensive coordinator and recruited players for DI football. Not a washed up has been who took peanuts because his former school is paying his salary and a bunch of undersized, slow, weak quitters that currently play at GT.

Clyde

September 30th, 2012
11:47 pm

Agreed Delbert on CAG. He tried, had success in some games, but just isn’t consistent. I don’t recall the GT offense being so consistent with putting points on the board though. I can’t really see what the complaint is with the offense, I find old school football refreshing. I think the pieces are there for the O, probably for the D too.

North Ave Killer Beez

October 1st, 2012
12:19 am

The Defense is not doing us any favors but when was the last time it did? Nearly the whole VaTech game, when the season was full of opportunity. PJ’s offense never shows up against the big boys, now it can’t get the job done against the cream puffs.
36 pts and 400 yds offense
28 pts and 400 yds offense To say that this is enough to win most games is bogus. It’s college not the NFL look around the NCAA, teams are dropping 40 and 50 left and right.
We are in the ACC and it should be have been a year where we could compete for the title, but not with a DII qb starting.

Supersize that order, mutt

October 1st, 2012
12:23 am

@ Al Bundy……I thought I was clear in saying that CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is fine and expected. But some of these guys haven’s offered anything in the least bit constructive. Look back at the posts that were made before I said what I did. Like I said, ONLY 1 4 GT, George Stein, and Delbert D. in the least bit rational or constructive. If you guys think Johnson is doing a bad job, fine; say so, but there is no need to put words or thoughts in his mouth than none of us have a clue about. And there is certainly no reason to call him “garbage,” which somebody did, if not on this blog, on one of the others. Do I have questions, complaints, gripes? Of course I do. But a public forum is no place to act like little children who are not getting things their way.

And what Silly Mutts (who is generally rational) just said about Johnson not caring about GT because it iw a stepping stone, sorry, but I think that is just garbage. I DO believe Johnson cares about Tech, and at his age, though not particularly old or over the hill, why on earth would he be interested at this point in going somewhere else and having to start all over again? Sorry, I don’t buy that, and anybody saying something like that is just expressing an opinion not based on any rational thought at all. NOBODY knows what is going on in Johnson’s mind, but even if he wanted to go somewhere else, don’t you think he would care enough to build up his credentials and go out on top?

Supersize that order, mutt

October 1st, 2012
12:26 am

@ Clyde……I think the pieces are there on both sides of the ball also. I DO think Johnson can produce on offense, and probably produce big. I do not, however, think that Groh can do the same on defense. However, I am not going to sit here and slam the man. I think Groh is trying to, but he just can’t cut it. And because he can’t cut it, he needs to go. I’m not going to trash him however and call him garbage. He is just beyond the point of being able to build a consistent defense.

Clyde

October 1st, 2012
12:38 am

I concur, Supersize.

Supersize that order, mutt

October 1st, 2012
12:39 am

Thanks, Clyde

Clyde

October 1st, 2012
12:50 am

No problemo. We all want the same thing, a program with integrity that produces wins. There’s no reason CPJ and CAG wouldn’t want the same, along with the players. They were the ones on the field, on television, being embarrassed. Feel bad for ourselves when we have to answer for being Tech fans, fine. But they have more at stake then us, unless some of you are betting large sums on these games. If so, I can see where there might be a bit more heartbreak!

gtbme

October 1st, 2012
1:25 am

CPJ makes more than Frank Beamer, Jimbo Fisher, Chip Kelly, and Dana Holgorsen. In what world does that make any sense. I never understood the rationale behind extending his contract. It’s not like teams were lining up to steal him from us. Our Athletic Department has some serious issues. First money wasted on Paul Hewitt and now on CPJ. Awesome.

GT Fan

October 1st, 2012
1:59 am

North Ave Killr Beez …

On one hand you contradict my statement that, whether you like it or not, is accurate. 36 pts/400 yds of O, 28 pts/400 yds of O, is enough to win 85-90% of a team’s games.

Then you verify the validity of my comment by saying “We are in the ACC” indicating an inferior league. That, sir, absolutely validates 36 & 28 pts being enough to win a vast majority of games. Go look at GT’s 2011 schedule and see how many opponents scored more than 28, then more than 36 against the Jackets.
Then take a look at what GT’s record would have been had the given up 42/49 pts per game. I think GT scored in the 60s twice, and 49 vs. MTSU.

Dunwoodydel

October 1st, 2012
2:56 am

Did anyone tell the team that the starting time was moved up to 12:00? Maybe that’s why they didn’t show up at all. Maybe they still had a 7:00 P.M. kickoff in mind.

go42

October 1st, 2012
4:46 am

I think the most optimistic explanation for the loss to MT was looking ahead. MT came to play and Tech was somewhere else. Also, putting Big Al up in the booth probably affected the team chemistry but those are excuses and excuses won’t cut it! Tech’s a fickle team but they like playing Clemson so we’ll see.

ToccoaDawg

October 1st, 2012
6:10 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ToeMeetsLeather

October 1st, 2012
6:23 am

Good morning ToccoaDawg, thanks for checkiing in. It is almost daylight, isn’t it time to grab the “slow/stop” sign and orange vest & report to work. Thanks for keeping the roads safe buddy.

GT fan Alumni for 56 years

October 1st, 2012
6:24 am

Recruiting is the problem. Bottom line. They are not coming to GT for several reasons. You all know them.

Birmingham Jacket

October 1st, 2012
6:38 am

Johnson is just like General Custer!

dry dirt road

October 1st, 2012
6:49 am

Tech needs to switch to Vad Lee. They need to get back into te light is day and dark is night unis from the first two games and don’t go off on a tangent from those. They learned last week that a wildcat is needed to pass downfield and have blockers on the side of the qb as if the qb is wearing double six guns, a double pistol if you will. This lining up at the los for passes agaimnst a good rishing team results in a loss behind the los. And this hanging around in the backfield faking it after the snap results in not faking a good rushing team out, giving them ample time to play catch up to the qb during rushes. CPJ is stubborn and keeps trying faking it and los pas plays. Does he have Tech’s best interests in mind, and does Radikovich? Tech needs a tight end and screen pass plays to prove they can play Div 1 fotball like all the other scools prove. Tech is too limited in pass plays. The commenter who mentioned that Clemson might score 100 points against Tech might be right.

dry dirt road

October 1st, 2012
6:51 am

boy is it ever early to post, all the mistakes I made typing, not enuf coffee yet, ony 6:51 am

dry dirt road

October 1st, 2012
6:56 am

this is too hard to do at this time of day and w/o enuf coffee yet, proofread for typos is too hard to do early, sorry for the struggle, if this comment w/typos was a blue book English exam at Tech I would have been given an F, but in six English courses there I got three B’s and three C’s, and James Dickey taught English at Tech after I graduated

Cats hav fleas 2

October 1st, 2012
6:59 am

CMR can’t win the big game….CPJ can’t win the easy games. I’ll take the former.

Old Dog

October 1st, 2012
6:59 am

What you doing up, toemeetsleather? To Hell with Tek, today, tomorrow and every other day!

dagnabit

October 1st, 2012
7:15 am

I’ve waited as long as anyone to say this: Al Groh has to be dismissed . I would prefer now.

This just in

October 1st, 2012
7:20 am

Middle Tenn. just scored again

New Idea

October 1st, 2012
7:31 am

Giff Smith named new Head Coach of Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket Football
Best idea yet.

Other idea.
Giff Smith named new Defensive Coordinator of GT football.

I like the first one better.

MORGANTECH

October 1st, 2012
7:41 am

@old d A wise man man once said ,you can teach an old dog new tricks ,but you cant teach a dumb one S#!T.

Bobby

October 1st, 2012
7:49 am

What time will DRad or CPJ announce Groh’s termination today?

tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket

October 1st, 2012
7:53 am

There are two basic problems now at Tech-the first are the fans-they are the ones needing firing. take the Virginia game when the stands starting emptying out in the third quarter. Totally disrespectful to the subs who had worked so hard since summer. The second problem is the pitiful play and enthusiam of the defensive players. they chucked in the towel as soon as the MTSU team came out and slapped them silly-no response. You cannot blame the cowardly play and poor tackling on Al Groh who knows more about football than al;l the naysayers combined. The players have taken a hike on the coaches and it is inexcusable. I would not want to be in a foxhole with any of them. Any athelete or any type competitor who lays down on the coach is a total disgrace.

Hold On!!!

October 1st, 2012
8:01 am

This will probably be Groh’s last season as Tech’s DC. Yall cant recruit well enough to run the 3-4 so I bet yall swith back to the 4-3. If yall are looking for a new HC, it wont happen bc Tech can not afford Johnson’s buyout. He pulled a fast one on yall, by making his buyout so much. yall will score on Clemson, but they will double yalls points. Im looking at 50+-24 game scenario. Goodluck!!

tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket

October 1st, 2012
8:01 am

When I saw MTSU and tech play a couple of years ago,the game was close in the first half. It was obvious that they had some good atheletes, just not enough of them. tech wore them down. This year a different story. Their primary running back is as good as there is in the country and will definitely be playing in the pros. Watching the pitiful efforts of Tech’s LBs and corners/safeties trying to hand and arm tackle this man was disgusting. Where is their manhood?? if they are afraid, they need to hand in their uniforms. Hell yea I am blaming the team and the players. Their “chicken” display was embarrassing!!!! Al Groh is not the problem.

George P. Burdell

October 1st, 2012
8:04 am

Did you see how Al Groh decided to defend the double stack receivers in the second half? One time, we just left the CB on his own and he got blocked out of the play. He didn’t even have safety support and we were lucky it didn’t go for 7. Then, we put a super slow linebacker who allowed two decent gains in a row with poor tackling and being in the wrong position. Finally, we put a defensive lineman out on that side, which also didn’t work ( surprise). I don’t know why they finally stopped running that play but it wasn’t because we stopped it. Maybe they didn’t want it to look like a fluke when they won the game. Defend Groh all you want but that was total incompetence from a DC and I suspect we will see excactly that same setup with some of the other teams we play through the season.

ramblingbuzz

October 1st, 2012
8:09 am

tired………You have a point about self-pride of the players. And I’m sure Al Groh does know a lot about football. Maybe just me, but I sense the chemistry between the GT coaches and players is just not there. 18 -22 year olds today are not like the athletes of 30-40 years ago where the coach is unquestioned. I have a feeling that CPJ never had to worry about motivating the young men at the USN Academy. And I don’t believe Al Groh, for all his knowledge, has taught his players how to execute the 3-4 or else he’s asking them to do something they are not mentally capable of doing. You can blame the players, or you can blame the coaches for last Saturday. I have a feeling there’s plenty of responsbility on each group. We’ll see what kind of Coach Johnson is next Sat. and whether he can re-energize the team. As for Groh, after seeing his defense get worse each year, I don’t think he can get it done at GT. Look a the Falcons and how they are performing this year after VanGorder left the team. Sometimes there is addition by subtraction. Seems like that may be the case with Coach Groh.

Bobby

October 1st, 2012
8:11 am

I would agree Groh is not the problem if MTSU was an aberration. But when you take Miami plus MTSU this year as well as Groh’s longevity at GT, he has had plenty of opportunity to build a defense and has failed. So, I know of no reason DRad and/or CPJ cannot announce his termination this morning and begin rebuilding the team. If CPJ is not willing to fire Groh then he needs to go. And I was a very big supporter of Groh when he came to Tech. He just simply has not done his job.

tired from all the frustrations of being a yellow jacket

October 1st, 2012
8:12 am

Most double stack receivers normally do get single safety coverage unless you have 12 players on the field. No sane knowledgeable football fan can fail to see the pathetic and cowardly play of this defense. I have been watching and loving GT since the 50’s and have never seen the team quit on the coaches before this one. Not even quitting on Bill lewis who was a helluva lot better coach than the fans give him credit for. On Lewis’s teams, the team played up to the level of the fan criticism and expectations of 10 and 11 win seasons every year-WHICH WILL NEVER HAPPEN> Get it straight-Tech will never be the teams of the 1950’s-NEVER.

New Idea

October 1st, 2012
8:33 am

CPJ has to fire Groh or take the responsibility himself. I have been around football a long time and I do believe Groh is a good coach, The problem is lack of talent. Our DB’s are pathetic with the exception of Thomas. Our DL is weak for pass rush and can’t get off blocks and LB’s can’t get off a block. I really believe recruiting has been the problem, not enough good players. Good players make tackles, bad players are to slow and not quick enough to make tackles.

GTBob

October 1st, 2012
8:35 am

Tech players and coaches are sissy quitters.

New Idea

October 1st, 2012
8:38 am

Tired….Frustrations…
In the fifties players wanted to come to GT so they could be Engineers and have a good job after football, now players want NFL and big money. Academics are seen as ’something that has to be done’ to get a shot at the NFL. GT administration still thinks we are in the fifties.

Al Bundy

October 1st, 2012
8:39 am

@Supersize that order, mutt

I agree there’s no place on this blog for the name calling, but frustration drives that kind of behavior. I think it’s totally ridiculous to even suggest CPJ doesn’t care about GT football. I’m sure he cares but he’s got to get over himself and makes some changes. If jumping into a wishbone type formation NEVER draws any team offsides it’s time to try something new. Look how long it took him to realize he needed help with special teams. Based on his track record it will be the end of the 2014 season before he does anything about the defense! With or without CPJ I will always be a fan and there have been much worse days in GT football history.

MORGANTECH

October 1st, 2012
8:42 am

They also quit in Athens about 10 years ago , unforgettably i was there, i remember it well.

ramblingbuzz

October 1st, 2012
8:44 am

I know our talent level is not on par with an Alabama, LSU, UGA, FSU, Clemson,etc. But do folks honestly believe our players are not on the same level with MTSU? If we had been routed by one of the above teams I would say we just can’t recruit with the big boys and we were beaten by better players. No shame in that. But we had our helmets handed to us by an MTSU team which lost to McNeese State. I don’t even know where McNeese State is! Sorry guys, when a team comes out that flat and lackadaisal against a lesser opponent, I put most of the responsibilty on te coaches.

ramblingbuzz

October 1st, 2012
8:54 am

Lake Charles, LA

GTJohn

October 1st, 2012
8:55 am

If any of you watched pro football this weekend you should have noticed that the Panthers, the Giants, the Eagles, etc could not stop any offense with less than 2 minutes to go and let the other teams march down the field to either win or have a chance to win the game at te end of regulation. Very similar to GT and VT, Miami.

GTballer

October 1st, 2012
8:58 am

Bobby, the first firing needs to go to the Head Coach period. At any respectful school a coaches record against certain teams is what determines where he stands. CPJ did the hiring of AG so who really should go first????

We have all seen head coaches get fired for less then what CPJ is doing here at GT. Numbers do not lie and against the big three and Bowl game CPJ is 3-15 right now and will be 3-16 come November>>>>>That is in sane to be a coach with that record in hopes that things will turn around…GT as long as CPJ is here will never get the recruits that Chan recruited because of the offense we run. When you are out recruiting the DII schools for players what are you really accomplishing?

It is time for a change here at GT and for us true fans if you are satisfied with what CPJ is accomplishing then so be it. I for one hate this because whe should not have to go winning one game every 5 or more years against anyone we play. I have and will always support the Jackets but enough is enough of this bull crap offense and defense we have. Time to get a coach in here that is going to run a pro style offense to get the athletes on the field to win some games again.

Sorry to be so negative but it is what it is and I am just being honest.

GTJohn

October 1st, 2012
8:59 am

To New Idea They may play college FB to get a shot at the Pros but 98% of them get a job like everyone else if they do well in school. The Pros are a dream and it remains just that for most college players. If theu do get a shot at the Pros, they should hope they have gotten an education so they can hold on to the $$$ they make and have a life after FB – unlike Vince Young, et al.

GT

October 1st, 2012
8:59 am

Our defense laid down on us. I think like ,a movie plot, if one day the defense decided they wanted something, say money or getting a coach fired or a different starting lineup and just said until this happens we are shutting it down. The offense has not sold out, but they got so nervous not having a defense they choke their assignments. Johnson has lead the offense and the new special team coach has lead that group, but something real sinister is going on with the defense. That sitting in the coaching box instead of on the sideline is another head scratchier. Look at safety number one Johnson or number six , for Tech,missing tackles in the films. They look like they are doing it on purpose. When Tech had their problems losing to Furman it was because the team wanted another quarterback Davis to start, and laid down. Something like that is going on here.

Rooty Tooty

October 1st, 2012
9:03 am

After trying to watch the game Saturday, and it was bad enough to make you upchoke. I find it hard to think we are going to win another game this year.

GTJohn

October 1st, 2012
9:07 am

GT, you may be on to something. I was there for those games also. GT football almost called it quits during those years – it was very close to GT no longer having a FB program. Hopefully CPJ understands how tenable this situation can become and does something about it. I, for one, would like to see a third party come in and meet with the players one-on-one and get to the bottom of this situation and chart a path to turn it around. Putting egos aside, CPJ needs to do something and quick.

GTballer

October 1st, 2012
9:13 am

The bottom line is it starts with the Head Coach….

Crazy Robert

October 1st, 2012
9:14 am

Random thoughts from this side of sanity: Avoid coaches with the first name “Paul” (Hewitt/Johnson) Bobby is a good one (Dodd/Ross)

Buy a drone, strap Groh to it so he can have a better vantage point than he had in the booth last Saturday

When does basketball start?

Maybe this is PJ’s way of making sure he doesn’t lose another bowl game by making sure the team isn’t eligible to go to one

Living the lie about recruiting and your staff

October 1st, 2012
9:19 am

GT fans are in denial. CPJ is vastly over rated, NOW coaching HIS OWN recruits. He is not a quality coach in big boy ball and his kids cannot play big boy ball. MTS out muscled Tech. GT was not good enought to be on the same field as MTSU. GT has not one player even close to the physicality of the MTSU running back.

CPJ hired AL Groh and promised the world that with AL’s NFL breeding, “we would attract HIGH CALBER 4/5 star athletes” and that now is all up in smoke. There simply are no players on that squad that could play on any SEC or most ACC teams and Big 12.

The stated mission of CPJ to attract good atheletes and coach em up, is a failure.

Now, GT has to live with the truth.

RICHARD

October 1st, 2012
9:21 am

CLEMSON 57 GA TECH 13 ONLY BECAUSE CLEMSON PULLS THERE STARTERS.PLEASES FIRE JOHNSON

Sad little people...

October 1st, 2012
9:26 am

I STILL think y’all beat Clemson! Remember, y’all only have 2 loses in the division. You can still win your division! This Dawg is pulling for you guys to go on and run the table except for the last game. Good luck!

GT Dude

October 1st, 2012
9:29 am

Well at least we won’t lose a home game this week.

juvenal

October 1st, 2012
9:36 am

can’t wait to see how the rodeo clowns entertain us while the offense is resting!

JB

October 1st, 2012
9:37 am

Clemson went toe to toe with a damn fine FSU team. A fast and physical FSU team. Clemson has speed galore. Sorry Tech….There is not a pre game speech in the world to help you this week. Clemson 55 Tech 14

DOC 51

October 1st, 2012
9:37 am

The ACC has never been big-time in football.ACC teams usually get manhandled in out-of-conference games,such as bowl games.We get TV exposure because of our basketball teams.Unfortunately basketball has slipped recently,but should improve w/PITT. and SYRACUSE coming on board.

Rufus

October 1st, 2012
9:38 am

Anybody know how we can contact John Tenuta?

CPJ's fupa...

October 1st, 2012
9:38 am

May your ship hit a rock named “Georgia” on the way down….

DIT

October 1st, 2012
9:41 am

I called last years tech victory and I will still stand by my call of a tech victory this year. It will be a high scoring game however, Clempson still can’t stop a team that runs the ball well. Heads up Jacket people, your team is getting ready to beat a ranked opponent!

JB

October 1st, 2012
9:41 am

Maybe Tech could stay in a prevent for 60 minutes to slow Clemson Saturday.

greta

October 1st, 2012
9:42 am

The relationship between the fans and the GT athletic administration has been tainted – by NCAA violations, ACC championship vacated and now this coaching debacle.

Even if we win all the rest of season’s games, this well is poisoned.

There is no accountability from the top. The A D can violate NCAA rules with no consequences. What other program would tolerate and apparently condone?

Not representative of Tech.

JB

October 1st, 2012
9:42 am

DIT……………..Where can I contact you to take some of your money.

North Avenue Rules

October 1st, 2012
9:43 am

Someone please tell me why we can’t run a high powered fast pistol offense like Oregon does? Are our players any different? Is our size different. To me it seems like we are about the same size and have the same speed and a capable QB (Vad).

Just curious.

DIT

October 1st, 2012
9:45 am

Not the gambling type, but if I were, where were you last year when I made the same prediction after tech lost the week before? Hey, I want tech to do good except for one game. The Dawgs need to tech to do well, the state of Ga needs tech to do well.

blackandwhitestripes

October 1st, 2012
9:47 am

I was there on Saturday and sat very close to the action or lack there of with the defense. Tech scored plenty enough points to win but when your defense lays down and lets another team, I don’t care who it is, smash mouth you like MTSU did its impossible to win a football game. The best offense is a good defense. Blame who you want but I put this loss totally on the defense.

JB

October 1st, 2012
9:50 am

As an AD, you have to ask yourself if you see this turning around. The AD in Athens believed in Richt and he has responded pretty well, although game day coaching is still iffy. Does this Tech AD See this getting better. Has the roster got a lot of young players ready to make it happen. How does the next class as far as commits look so far. What is the contract situation. I know the Basketball payout to Hewitt was hefty…..Lot’s of questions as to go forward with CPJ or not.

JB

October 1st, 2012
9:51 am

DIT, I totally agree. Most real football fans of Georgia do not like this. I don’t. And we are not that far removed from the same feeling in Athens. Good luck Saturday.

GT

October 1st, 2012
9:52 am

GTJohn good idea on third party.

When Tech had this last time it was the offense that shut down on them, think they only scored 14 points against then a pretty weak Furman team. The offense is still playing on this team, it is the defense. I think Paul knows he has a problem but doesn’t want to have his dirty laundry in the news I suspect it came last week against Miami and boiled over into this game. I think against Clemson the pride takes back over, but the least amount of difficulty on the sideline and we will get blown out there. If I were Johnson I would fire AG this week, but maybe Johnson doesn’t want to give in to this bunch of losers, let em lose till they get their heads on straight or quit. Cremins use to have these problems and would cut the kid in a heart beat, mid season if necessary. Bobby Ross left Tech because of it, you are babysitting the entire family that think their interest came before the team’s. He was playing for what turned out to be the national championship and was dealing with motivational problems

GTBob

October 1st, 2012
9:52 am

If you pay any more money to go watch these losers, you should have your head examined

Remember when

October 1st, 2012
9:55 am

I so vividly remember tech fans talking about pj being a genius. Here is a sample of some of my favorite tech fan sayings-

- there’s a new sheriff in town
- pj can take his and beat you or turn around and take yours and beat you or something to that effect
- pj is so brilliant he doesn’t need a play chart like other coaches- I always found this amusing since they only run about four or five plays most of the game while other college teams run complicated offenses nowadays
- wait until pj gets his players in here and he will really showcase his offense- well his players are here

And I can’t fail to mention all the bragging about al groh and his Super Bowl rings. This guy would have been absolutely nothing in life were it not for bill parcels. Groh only got the job with the jets because belicheck bolted for New England leaving them high and dry and parcels told them to hire groh. UVA then hired groh because of his nfl head coaching experience and ties to the school. This guy should have never been anything other than a position coach if that.

As the old saying go’s the chickens have come home to roost.

WnE

October 1st, 2012
9:58 am

re:
blackandwhitestripes
October 1st, 2012
9:47 am

I was there on Saturday and sat very close to the action or lack there of with the defense. Tech scored plenty enough points to win but when your defense lays down and lets another team, I don’t care who it is, smash mouth you like MTSU did its impossible to win a football game. The best offense is a good defense. Blame who you want but I put this loss totally on the defense.
_________________

CPJ is 0-for-2 in hiring DCs, plus he RECRUITED the crappy Defensive players that everyone is complaining about, that means that he is responsible for everything bad associated with the GT FB Program.

Ergo, you fire CPJ, but we cannot afford to, so CPJ will get the chance to ruin at least 2.5 more Recruiting Classes.

The hiring of CPJ has (or will) set GT FB back at least 10-12 years to try an recover from his crappy Recruiting.

Our Admin will never let a new HC “run players off or over-sign” to quickly repair the damage that CPJ has done, so the REBUILDING post-CPJ will be slow & painful.

No matter how GOOD the new HC is, we are likely to be Dook for a 3-5 yr. stretch, imagine that, many of the CPJ Boot-licking-toadies were laughing at Maryland and the troubles that they were having transitioning to Edsel without realizing the TRUE state of our FB program, how much real damage that CPJ has done to GT FB.

And to top it all off, WnE knew exactly what was going to happen all the way back in Dec. 2007 when CPJ was hired.

DIT

October 1st, 2012
10:04 am

JB I’m on your side of the fence. I’m a UGA Alumnus! I just really do want to see tech do well! Except for one game a year of course.

DOC 51

October 1st, 2012
10:04 am

There is no excuse for any player not hustling on every play.Surely CPJ can find 22 players out of 85 that will go hard every play.If it means walk-ons and freshmen,then so be it.We miss the leadership of #40.He and TW are the only true leaders on this team.

GTVegas

October 1st, 2012
10:13 am

Plain and simple, CPJ needs to get rid of Groh. I wonder if it was CPJ’s suggestion for Groh to go upstairs for the game? If so, was it because he hoped that perspective might give Groh a lesson he refused to see in prior games/films or is it because CPJ is finding it hard to be on the same sideline as the man?

CPJ is the CEO here and the one ultimately responsible for the perfornamce of his hires/recruits.

I have an idea. Since it would be difficult to hire a DC mid-season, why not get Julian Burnett to do it? It really couldn’t be any worse.

JB

October 1st, 2012
10:15 am

DOC 51……..The recruiting and signings by Johnson other than a plum or two here and there are not up to big boy football standards. It’s showing up on the field. I realize the restrictions at Tech, but dang, you guys got Reggie Ball in and kept him eligible.

War Jacket

October 1st, 2012
10:17 am

Looks to me like CPJ has lost the team. We will find out Saturday.

old dog

October 1st, 2012
10:21 am

I pull for y’all except against us. But, the arm tackling in the 2nd half (out of fear of getting run-over) was THE most pathetic thing I have ever seen. That was undoubtably the poorest defensive effort (or lack there-of) in the history of organized athletics. You have no talent, no coaching, no nothing on the D-side…..you gotta start completely over. I don’t care about academics, etc….the lingerie-league girls play better D than y’all did Saturday. Any self-respecting Tech fan knows that. The last time I saw a Cunningham run for 217 at Grant Field it was Brent Cunningham torching Clemson bak in ‘70: I was there! I’m tellin’ ya, guys, you gotta start over!

THIS TEAM SUCKS

October 1st, 2012
10:29 am

MAMAMELO PUES, 2009 WAS A FLUKE AND IT WAS TAKEN AWAY, YOU WANT ALUMNI MONEY AND PARTICIPATION, BETTER GET THIS TEAM IN SHAPE

GJ

October 1st, 2012
10:30 am

Wow…some very grumpy Tech fans. Come on guys, look on the bright side. Getting whipped by Clemson will not be nearly as embarassing as getting whipped by MTSU. Good thing there were ony 30,000 people in the stands to see that debocle.

GJ

October 1st, 2012
10:33 am

I guess losing recruites to MTSU really did hurt

@ Techster

October 1st, 2012
10:35 am

You need to rethink your math (you a tek grad?) teams DON’T HAVE 85 – the NCAA has limits on class size – wake up knucklehead.

GTJoe7643

October 1st, 2012
10:36 am

If we were able to sign and keep eligible such upstanding geniuses as Reggie Ball, Joe Henderson, and Reuben Houston, we should be able to do the same for a few kids with more athletic skill than those we have out there now.

MC

October 1st, 2012
10:37 am

I don’t see how anyone that knows the least thing about football can’t see that the CPJ experiment is becoming an abysmal failure. He’s trying to sell a novelty smoke and mirror system to kids that know better. GT will fall farther and farther down the black sucking hole trying to compete with players that are on a whole, not even an afterthought to the perennial top 25 boys.

GT Joe

October 1st, 2012
10:54 am

NOW is it time for Vad?

JB

October 1st, 2012
11:00 am

The question for Tech about Johnson is not one of “if”……but when.

TakeBoBo

October 1st, 2012
11:00 am

not a fan of tech fans…all three of you… but i always pull for you to win…i wouldnt talk sh*t anymore on the UGA blog…
I had to come over here bc the bs and trash talking techies are blabbing about on the UGA win…what gives with you guys….your fan base is horrible, your stadium sucks, your team is being abused, and you want to jump on UGA , really???? yall gots issues
good luck with Clemson…you will need it

GTJoe7643

October 1st, 2012
11:01 am

At least Bill Lewis had the decency to fail completely in his third year so we could move on. CPJ is bleeding us to death slowly, and if he manages to pull off an “upset” over VT or Clemson (can you really call any victory over those two an upset, with the way they both manage to wet the bed on a pretty consistent basis year in and year out?) every now and then, and beat UGA once every five to seven years, we have enough apologists on here that we will be stuck in this hell forever.

JB

October 1st, 2012
11:01 am

The only thing that would save Johnson in the eyes of Tech’s Alum and fans is to upset Georgia this year. And that game is always close most years.

old dog

October 1st, 2012
11:01 am

GT Joe,
If Vad can play defense………………Not ONE person on D who played Saturday, not one, would start against Clemson. Yeah, y’all do not have the coaching or talent to play the 3-4, but that chicken #$%^ tackling was totally and completely a lack or heart and effort; PERIOD! Even if Groh is gone, not ONE starter from Saturdays game would start against Clemson. Maybe thay would come in later, but that gutless performance was embarassing to the State of Georgia. Yeah, we will get huniliated, too, and have been. But there is a difference between gettin out-schemed and getting run over…..Cunningham had six miles AFTER CONTACT! In the second half, people stuck arms out afraid he might run them over….pitiful! My wife’s Grandad is in the Tech HOF and the State of Georgia HOF…. and as previously stated I pull for y’all except against us. But that d-effort will go down as one of the worst by players in the history of Georgia Tech.

Born2Buzz

October 1st, 2012
11:04 am

Have I mentioned that I hate Al Groh.
He was obviously in the booth this week to keep CPJ from punching him in the face.
D was non-existent. Al was confused even more so this week than last. Guys out of position and tentative. You can’t play D tentatively.
Now CPJ is confused as well. He’s always simply hired a DC and given him the reins on that side of the ball. Now he knows he made a mistake, is trying to fix it and will need to find a replacement. And he’s not able to concentrate on the O side as well.
Here’s a few clues coach,
1) forget the D side. Let Groh either fix it or not. You can’t help.

and 2) You can’t have a QB that has the ball in his hands for 41 of 79 plays and produces 150 yards of O, especially rushing the ball 19 times for 4 yards.

Put Vad in NOW!! And just scrap the whole Triple O. Run all of your passing plays and a few toss sweeps all the time.

Now I’m worried about winning another game. Even Duke will shred this D.

GTJoe7643

October 1st, 2012
11:11 am

Upsetting UGA may only prolong the agony…if not for their second-half implosion against us that first year, we might be rid of CPJ already and moving on towards a real football program again. Despite all around horrible play on special teams and with the pick-six and turnovers deep in their own red zone, UGA still hung 51 points on a Tennessee team that certainly has better athletes (and coaching) on defense than we do, so it really would be an upset teh way things look today.

I bought my UGA gear at WalMart

October 1st, 2012
11:15 am

I can’t help but notice that there isn’t any, and I mean ANY, chatter on my UGA blogs today….I’m just sayin….

I bought my UGA gear at WalMart

October 1st, 2012
11:17 am

Where are you GT Bob? We miss you….

I bought my UGA gear at WalMart

October 1st, 2012
11:20 am

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

damngooddawg!

October 1st, 2012
11:23 am

Now “WalMart”, don’t be naughty. Remember that techies have troubles of their own. Also remember that UGA could get beaten by SC next Saturday……MTSU????? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

HBTD

October 1st, 2012
11:40 am

Sounds like the wheels have come off the program once again over on the flats. I guess it was just a matter of time before it became obvious that pj is simply not going to be able to attract high quality talent to play in his hs scheme. Hope the big money guys let pj and co stick around for years to come, but my guess is he’ll be out after this year simply because you know what you’ve got in him……….a program that’s not going to be able to compete with the big guys on most days, and a program that will not compete with the little guys on some days.

GT

October 1st, 2012
11:43 am

Remember when I still think PJ is a genius. He just can’t overcome his own assistant coach. It is like “friendly” Afghanistan troops shooting American soldiers, it is something you don’t count on. At Georgia they just have them arrested, no more sad they are gone, and if you are Author Blanks you deliver a few pit bulls to M. Vicks’ house, PJ hasn’t stooped that far yet,

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
11:45 am

I’m still waiting to see the news that “no show” was fired. I guess I fail to understand why CPJ even bothers to put up with him. With “no show” in charge, GT has no chance at getting good defensive players. I mean who would want to play for that loser? The sooner Groh is gone, the better.

damngooddawg!

October 1st, 2012
11:48 am

It ain’t Groh, dude. It’s the lack of good players on the team…

Born2Buzz

October 1st, 2012
11:50 am

Thanks for visiting dog fans, laugh all you want. It doesn’t hurt as much as watching what we watched last Saturday. What can we say? Yes, our team looks to officially suck.

I think GT earlier is onto something. You just don’t stop trying to play D like that without some underlying agenda. Was Isiah Johnson #1 just out of position so much because the coaches put him there, or does he make these decisions on his own? Did Rod Sweeting #6 just run away from the receiver he is originally lined up against because he was coached that way, or is he making this decision on his own? And do they all shy away from tackling somebody because they are afraid to get hurt or are there underlying reasons for pulling up like they did.

You know, in the VT game the D played hard, hit with a vengeance and made plays…all until the last drive when their DC had them backing off 10 yards from the receivers and playing soft, trying to contain and not give up a big play. (Of course #1 missed a tackle that would have saved the game, so maybe he just sucks). Then our QB does something in OT that no Freshman QB should do, let alone a 5th year Sr. Maybe the D is laying down because they are tired of seeing this 5th year Sr on the field. Maybe they are laying down because they know their DC is a confused old man and they have lost all respect for him. I don’t know, but it’s just fishy.

GT

October 1st, 2012
11:52 am

Groh is so much like Gailey. Maybe we have learned our lesson with these old guys. Saban and other great coaches grow there own. Smart, Muschamp all are young prodigies of great coaches. There is no room for equals on a football coaching staff, it never works. Independent coaches on a staff will kill you, they have egos and usually they are playing people off each other to get their way.

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
11:52 am

No… It’s Groh… He doesn’t dial up blitzes. He doesn’t have players lined up right. He doesn’t know the first thing about a 3-4 defense. He seems to always play some friggin prevent defense. He coaches scared, therefore; the players play scared. No, my freind, Al Groh is the big problem.

Born2Buzz

October 1st, 2012
11:55 am

dgd, it is Groh. Our LBs are better than we’ve had in years. Our DL is better than last year. Our DBs are the same, so maybe that is a problem.
Listen, Jabari Hunt-Days is a stud and was recruited by everybody. We have a Sr DL that is a beast but Al had him on the bench for 2 years while we played a “gritty kid with a great motor” that wouldn’t start for any D1 team.
It’s all Groh, and by extension, sadly it is CPJ. He hired him and he has to take the blame.

Sucks to be us!

wt. king

October 1st, 2012
11:56 am

“If we don’t get ready to play a little better and a little harder against Clemson, it’ll be embarrassing,” coach Paul Johnson said Saturday

A little better…. that’s it? Just a Little?

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
11:57 am

@ Born2Buzz…. *nods* 100% agree. Al Groh is horrible.. He was a loser at UVA and he is still a loser. He brought his loser ways with him to GT. The sooner he is gone the better GT will get.

GT

October 1st, 2012
11:59 am

Jmonty you are on the money. In that Miami game he was 40 yards off the ball, his teams are not aggressive, they tackle like the are apologizing. I think this Middle Tenn State thing was a retaliation for Miami, the players having the game taken away from them by stupidity and then not owning up for stupidity. Something else I noticed Johnson will do he will let the problem stew in its own juices.

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
12:00 pm

Well… if you play a little better on each play… It will be a lot better for the whole game.. Hopefully??

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
12:03 pm

I wonder if Al Groh let his wife run over him, like the rest of the teams in the NCAA do? Maybe he puts on the dress and apron at his home?? Either way, he is about aggressive as a dead dried up snail. He just lets the other team dictate the game. He needs to go back home and play dress up and quit coaching.. Maybe he’s good at Madden and that makes him think he can coach??

Born2Buzz

October 1st, 2012
12:04 pm

My lover is a Bulldogs fan, so I’m Switching, Still like those college players in really tight pants, though.

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
12:06 pm

Gooooooo Bulldogssssssssssss

GTsince57

October 1st, 2012
12:07 pm

Saturdays was by far the worst performance by a Tech team that I can remember. I was at the game and it appeared to me that the team does not want to play for Paul Johnson any longer. This is sad for the team, the fans, and most of all to the great tradition of a fine institution. Wipe the slate clean, fire the entire staff and start over after this season ends. Paul Johnsons hard headed, egotistical ways need to go. The buck stops with him (unfortunatley for Tech) several millions down the road.

wt.king

October 1st, 2012
12:08 pm

Monty is a cad at ga-yties.com site he strips

GTsince57

October 1st, 2012
12:09 pm

Not my comment at 12:07, you all know I like young white boys in a wet jockstrap and the Dawgs Ruleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
12:09 pm

LMAO Tee hee

Jmonty

October 1st, 2012
12:10 pm

Well the last post wasn’t mine… But I have nothing against the UGA… They are dang good team. @ WT King… If I was a stripper… I would be one of the oldest strippers around. I would definitely go broke quick. But thanks for thinking I could be.. :)

wreckmaniac

October 1st, 2012
12:11 pm

If Groh is not gone by Saturday, PJ should be fired. I can’t believe its noon Monday with no resignation. By the way, we know now that Va Tech is a mediocre team along with the others Tech has played.

wt. king

October 1st, 2012
12:12 pm

What gets me is CPJ looked at Groh and said, “Ya!! That’s good enough. He’ll do fine….let me hire and keep him no matter what.”

GTsince57

October 1st, 2012
12:16 pm

Your childish sick humor is revolting ahole.

alex

October 1st, 2012
12:17 pm

@born2buzz, If these are the best linebackers in years then past years have been horrible because the guys who played on saturday ,all of them,were blown out,blown by and blown up on almost every play. They may have been recruited but they aren’t playing like d1 level…. I specifically watched them and if they COULD tackle it was 7 yards downfield and coverage?,yea that was something. They made the MTSU quarterback look like a heisman candidate….

GTsince57

October 1st, 2012
12:19 pm

Not my comment at 12:07, you all know I like young white boys in a wet jockstrap and the Dawgs Ruleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Your childish sick humor is revolting ahole.

Born2Buzz

October 1st, 2012
12:20 pm

Oh, so now you are going to start faking someone’s screen name and making cute remarks? Very mature.

Actually, my girlfriend is a UGA grad, but I will not switch. I’m OK when the Dogs win, just not against us.

No other comments under this name will be mine. I’m out.

Coach Hewitt...

October 1st, 2012
12:22 pm

My feeling’s have become eerily similar to what my ex said the last time we spoke,

”(GT) I love you, you’re the best…but I just can’t do this anymore”.

Remember when

October 1st, 2012
12:24 pm

Well i don’t think he’s a genuis. If he were he wouldn’t be in the process of destroying tech’s football program. I have a family member who is a long time season ticket holder and the first thing he said to me when tech hired groh was tech will never be able to get the athletes to run a successful 3-4 scheme. Now if someone who sits in the stands could have predicted this why couldn ‘t the so called genuis. A college football coach is the ceo of the team and is responsible for all phases of the game regardless of what side of the ball his background is in. And lets not forget the genuis is 0-4 in bowl games when teams have time to prepare for his scheme. Now how can a genuis college coach be winless in bowl games?

yeller bug

October 1st, 2012
12:38 pm

The most disturbing issue we face now is morale. Our team quit at the halfway mark of the 4th Qtr—hadn’t seen that since the loss to UGA 51-7 under Gailey. Without heart or desire, there is no drive to execute and there is no chance to win. This problem is systemic—coaches, players and as evident on these blogs—the fans. This should be priority 1 for CPJ to remedy.

Tactically, we have major problems on D and minor problems on O. CAG has an in-depth knowledge of the game, but that knowledge is not getting translated to our execution on the field. Missing tackles is on the players, but you can sense from the stands that the players look confused and lack confidence in what they are doing. We need to simplify. It reminds me of CPH in B-ball where he’d analyze in such detail to try to force an opponent to go clockwise around a pick so that they’d have to pivot and shoot off their left foot, meanwhile his team struggled with the basics of inbounding the ball and blocking out. We need to simplify, emphasize the fundamentals, and get some confidence back into our players. Otherwise it’s going to be chaos and our already shaky morale will just plummet leading to more L’s on our record.

GT

October 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

You are crazy even talking of firing PJ. Hell we will be lucky he doesn’t quit on us anyway. The man ,like Gailey lets the defense alone, not sure if Spurrier use to be the same way. The problem with Tech is the whole team is not there for football, the chemistry eventually doesn’t do well. You got some academic nerds mixed in with some street cred guys and somewhere the street cred guy gets his feelings hurt and does like Cam Newton in that New York a couple of weeks ago, spouts. When you are winning it usually goes unnoticed, but during stress it breaks out.

Makes you wonder what Tech got put on probation for, just recruiting athletes is a handicap at Tech, to say they cheat is a compliment when you look at this team. It is like telling Don Knoxs you think he is cheating on his wife. Don probably would be flattered you thought someone wanted him, even if it sounds stupid.

T-MAN

October 1st, 2012
12:54 pm

The Ship be Sinking…..They havn’t tackled,they havn’t blocked and they damn sure can’t pass.Is their any other way to score?O yea the Kicking games weak..

DS CE'91

October 1st, 2012
12:59 pm

I’m not a huge fan of the 3-4, but my (admittedly novice) opinion is that CAG’s in-game play calling is not the biggest problem we have. We just don’t have the horses (heck even ponies) on the D-Line and Secondary. Our guys there are outmatched week in and week out. Poor tackling is mostly technique, I’ll grant you. But when you have a dearth of talent, any weaknesses are grossly magnified.

As far as offense goes, in my opinion Vad Lee stepping in at QB has a chance to be an upgrade ONLY if CPJ modifies his offensive approach. We can’t expect to throw just 10 times a game if Lee’s in the game, and we’ll need to run much more pistol/shotgun formation. I suspect that for many of us, that is the real question we have for CPJ: CAN/WILL YOU ADJUST YOUR SCHEME TO THE TALENT (however meager) YOU HAVE? I truly hope the answer is YES.

Anyway, I’m still rooting hard for a “W” this weekend, odds be d@mned. GO JACKETS!!!

GT

October 1st, 2012
1:00 pm

Lewis was the worst we could get, Ross was the best. PJ is closer to Ross than Lewis, or Curry, maybe around O’Leary. I think what O’Leary has done with Central Fla. is exceptional. PJ has room for improvement, O’Leary gave us all he had and had exceptional assistant coaches. JP is a loner. O’Leary is part of that crew now up at Penn State,he like Ross has some roots in the college football community. You read his roster of assistant coaching staff and you got a club of guys that have been together as friends for a while, he can trust them. PJ got screwed by Groh, didn’t see it coming. Who would?

DS CE'91

October 1st, 2012
1:05 pm

I’d like to see what Days can do if given a steady number of carries at A-Back as well. I worry about his fumbles, but we lost 3 last week anyway. I was very skeptical when it was announced that Days would go to A-Back – how could he possibly understand the position well enough to be successful. But, if the coaches thought his talent able to overcome his lack of experience, then let’s get him in. At 2-3, we need to take every opportunity to get our best guys on the field, and let them try to make some plays. It does not appear that “scheme” alone will be sufficient…..

The Truth

October 1st, 2012
1:14 pm

Play Vad Lee. 60% run/40% pass.

Fire Groh. Play a 7 man D front and bench Barnes, Young and Sweeting.

uafuneman

October 1st, 2012
1:29 pm

It’s sooooooooooooooooo hard to be Tech fan.6-7 wins while uga is winning 9-10. Oh it’s soooooooooooooooooooo hard.

GTJoe7643

October 1st, 2012
1:33 pm

GT: CPJ has the same number of losses in his past two years as Bill Lewis had in his two full seasons, so not sure why you think PJ is closer to O’Leary. Remember that CPJs record is being tallied during an era in which ACC football has been arguably the weakest it has been in many years, and when UGA was at such a low ebb that Richt’s job was on the line for two years. Granted, O’Leary had the benefit of coaching against that sleazeball Donnan and in the aftermath of the Ray Goof debacle, but at least the rest of our conference was a little more respectable. Right now there are only two ACC teams in the top 25, and one of them is Clemson, for pity’s sake. (Remember WVU hung 70 pints on them a few months back.)

GTVegas

October 1st, 2012
1:35 pm

CPJ was so fed up with Groh, he kicked him upstairs so he wouldn’t lose it on the sidelines. The decision this week should be to leave Groh in Atlanta and let #40 be DC for a day. It could not be any worse.

GTJoe7643

October 1st, 2012
1:40 pm

HaHa…typo…the Clemson fans maybe drained 70 pints trying to forget!

Blah

October 1st, 2012
2:15 pm

It would be typical Tech to lose to MTSU and then come back to defeat Clemson…

Clyde

October 1st, 2012
2:21 pm

I wonder how pissed off the players on offense have been at the players on defense for losing two games in over-time? You know there has been some jawing back and forth between them. May not have helped much against MTSU.

Clyde

October 1st, 2012
2:22 pm

Well, losing the lead two times, forcing OT.

big red

October 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

you have to have the personal to run the 3-4, tech does not have the personal and the defence is getting worse…………somebody do something !!!!!!

Russ

October 1st, 2012
2:58 pm

I am a handsome bulldog. I look in the mirror every day – just keep getting better looking. I cannot wait to wake up tomorrow just to see how I look!! I have female dogs giving me phone numbers and smooches every day. It is great to be a bulldog!!!! Now where’s my chow and fresh ice bags?

wreckmaniac

October 1st, 2012
3:01 pm

A win over Clemson is meaningless. The last two weeks have done this team in. There’s the Falcons and the Dawgs, both undefeated, the Braves going to the playoffs and there’s Tech who is doing poorly enough for the other three teams combined.
No resignation(s) yet ?

wreckmaniac

October 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

Clemson and UGA will both hang 100 on this team

wreckmaniac

October 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

So we get to watch the CMR smirk during the last game of the year again ?

l

October 1st, 2012
3:08 pm

I predict the time is coming when all AJC media will be banned from GT media events. Big surprise

Coach Hewitt...

October 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

For the folks that wanted Chan gone & Reggie B ran outta town…

Reggie Ball started at QB in 49 games over 4 seasons at Tech. In those 49 starts, when our offense scored at least 21 points, we were undefeated. 21 measly points.*

I find that maddening after watching us spread our cheeks on defense and lose twice that many in 2 weeks.

Coach Hewitt...

October 1st, 2012
3:17 pm

30 wins & no loses when we scored more than 21 in Gaileys last 4 years with RB… SMDH…

Full Metal Jacket

October 1st, 2012
3:17 pm

Tech fans are grateful to have your consistent and competent updates and reports, Ken. Thank you. I don’t post much any more but I do truly appreciate being able to keep up with Tech sports in the paper. We haven’t always had a diligent beat writer. To the malcontents yelling for heads to roll, etc.: get over it, guys. There will be no coaching changes mid-season and while Groh may be gone at the end of the year (we knew he wouldn’t be here long regardless of his success), Johnson will be here a long time yet. I would like to see what Lee can do with 1st string reps throughout the week and throughout a whole game. Washington hasn’t progressed making reads and adjustments over time, and he succumbs to pressure late in games. Of course, the QB hasn’t been missing tackles and playing flat on D, so Johnson really needs a systemic, team-wide turn-around. Maybe it’s time to lay a foundation for next year.

Full Metal Jacket

October 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

While I am a football fan first, about the only good thing I can say about this past weekend is that the basketball arena looks real nice. Go Jackets.

Rico

October 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

I keep hitting refresh to see when Groh is fired…How long will it take?!! Lord

Coach Hewitt's cheeks

October 1st, 2012
3:28 pm

I knew there was something odd about you, Coach, but I thought you were just strutting courtside, not actually in pain. Washington is a better QB than Ball, but that’s not saying much. Gailey was a good coach with bad PR who did not suck up enough to key alumni. That should be a lesson to Johnson. When the fans stop showing up and the wealthy alums get restless, time is short. We’re not there yet and we can still right the ship and salvage a winning season, but the losses in bowl games and the regular losses to UGA have to stop.

Coach Hewitt's cheeks

October 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

Groh ain’t going nowhere mid-season (no experienced assistant to replace him) because that’s just not a smart move. He’s probably out in December/January though. Johnson is the head coach for years to come. Get used to it.

Russ

October 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

And to tell you the truth, I don’t care if we go undefeated this year or not….I’m just glad they stopped spray-painting my posterior white for each game.

Full Metal Jacket

October 1st, 2012
3:39 pm

If the team comes out with fire in their eyes and plays Clemson a straight-up tough game in Death Valley, then Johnson and Groh will show they still have this team. Just as importantly, it’s time for team leaders to stand up and actually lead. Fans will put up with honest losses and occasional mistakes, but quitting and lack of effort will empty a stadium quicker than anything.

Full Metal Jacket

October 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

Finally, Tech beating UGA and a bowl opponent, if they even make a bowl, have just gone from important to critical, which is bad news given UGA’s strength this year.

JB

October 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

I’m thinking Tech plays Clemson Tough Saturday. Tech will come to play and Clemson will be lax. Just watch.

Ken Sugiura

October 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

GT Girl – Attaochu, Young and Holton were all out. Brandon Watts was out for much of the first half for reasons that aren’t entirely clear and was replaced by Malcolm Munroe.
Tyler Marcodes, a redshirt freshman, started, and D.J. White, another freshman, got time, as well, as did Adam Gotsis.

GTOhhhhhhhhhh!

October 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

Last Saturday’s loss was truly embarrassing. The team was flat and the coaching uninspired. Tech should have had a better player at every single position that MTSU and yet lost handily. Mathematically, Tech could still have a good record, but when fans see players quitting and coaches clueless they start staying home to watch better games on TV. Then they stop buying season tickets and giving money and before you know it, DRad’s scrambling to find some way to creatively finance a huge buyout and still hire a quality coach. C’mon, Coach Johnson and supposed team leaders, most of us are still behind you and want to cheer for you and the team, but give us a sign…..give us a competitive game in Death Valley. Otherwise, I’m going to have to stay home on Saturdays so I don’t miss the other games where real teams play, and real players lead.

SouthernCrescent

October 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

Thanks for staying on the beat and keeping us apprised, Ken. Will Defense be at full strength at Clemson? What’s the injury sitch on O and D? Any sign yet how CPJ is going to handle practice this week: punishing runs and reps to get their attention or “let’s-just-block-it-out-and-start-anew”? Not really sure how CPJ’s done it in the past.

Connor

October 1st, 2012
4:03 pm

No doubt in my mind that my Georgia Southern Eagles could beat Tech this year

Silly Mutts

October 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

@southernCrescent…CPJ hasn’t made any adjustments yet after a loss or losses….This year is a continuation of last year! 1-4 VT 1-4 UM 1-3 UGA 0-4 Bowls…what else can you say? Have “faith”? That is really comical if so! GT is now irrelevant in college football! I wouldn’t doubt if Clemson puts up 100 points on GT this weekend. Prediction Clemson 70 GT 3.

Big Jim

October 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

You “fire AG” people are IDIOTS!
You people that think this is the FIRST time this team has ever quit are IDIOTS, and this mess just started last week are IDIOTS. (Ah Gardner Webb ring a bell, ah every bowl game?)
You people that think this offense will work in big boy football are IDIOTS.
You people who keep defending the Johnson are IDIOTS.

How many more times do you want to hear this bumblin’ red neck say “hee hee, well ah, ah, worst loss ever hee ha, I am embarrased, ah ha, hee haw…” You should be you f’ing moron!

You think 4-5 star kids want to play in that Sh**t offense? You are fooling yourself. As I have said since day 1 of this morons hiring….wood telephone poles did NOT go away because we ran out of trees….we found a BETTER way!

Its called the forward pass you STUPID F’k! Just like every other team not named for our armed forces run, and EVERY NFL TEAM!

SouthernCrescent

October 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

OK, team,….one more time. “The Flats is WHERE we play, not HOW we play!”

BobbyPetrino is available.

October 1st, 2012
4:15 pm

Just saying.

Big Jim, Tiny D**k, Even Smaller Brain

October 1st, 2012
4:17 pm

If you think everyone else is a moron and an idiot, you may be living in a house of mirrors.

Bobby Petrino is still available.

October 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

Still just saying…..

Bobby Petrino is still available.

October 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

True he can’t ride a motorcycle very well, he may sneak out on your program in the dark of night, and he can’t be put in charge of h.r., but the current coach isn’t the most likeable guy. either and at least Petrino might be able to recruit and win.

GT Fan Man

October 1st, 2012
4:36 pm

Have a feeling there are going to be more GT fans jumping from railings, bleachers, score board whatever before this one is over!!!!

Buzzed-for-Life

October 1st, 2012
4:48 pm

I’m calling for EVERY Georgia Tech to embrace our team during these difficult times. GT is the TOP school in the Nation academically.

Embrace who we are instead of who we are not,

We are Georgia Tech!!!

Sun Belt Conference

October 1st, 2012
4:57 pm

Short Answer: No
Long Answer: No

Sun Belt Conference

October 1st, 2012
5:02 pm

Multiple losses and out come the academic arguments.
Typical.
please go to http://www.ajc.com/trigonometry-reggieball.

Sun Belt Conference

October 1st, 2012
5:03 pm

“So we get to watch the CMR smirk during the last game of the year again ?”

Yes, but more like 2nd quarter. Even he will feel bad for you by the end.

Boise Dawg

October 1st, 2012
5:08 pm

I have a strange feeling about Tech this coming weekend and am considering picking them for the upset. It seems like Paul Johnson seems to pull something when backed up against a wall… then again, PJ doesn’t play or coach defense. I think the defense looked better than adverstised after the Va Tech game, but clearly Va Tech is not a very good team this year….

tao

October 1st, 2012
5:19 pm

If tech upsets clemson, they have a chance save the bowl streak! Defense must play their best game of the season vs clemson speedy offense! Go Jackets!!

tao

October 1st, 2012
5:25 pm

I would like to see an ocasional toss sweep pass from the a back! To mix it up a little bit. The stadium was emptiest ive ever seen it vs mtsu. Then they got hammered/embarrassed on top of that! Cmon Jackets win out to show the world how to respond to adversity!

2Dawgs

October 1st, 2012
5:38 pm

gt40pinhd
“if we don’t overcome the poor tackling that has plagued us, saturday is going to be ugly, really ugly ( like that damn dog uga has).”

My father, rest his soul, went to tech and saw the bees win a share of the NC with Colorado. As a Dawg I expect better competition than the jackets will offer this year. Only one win against Richt since he’s been at UGA. Time for CPJ to go? Get rid of that playground thing they call offense and play grown man football.

Knute Rockny

October 1st, 2012
5:39 pm

As Dandy Don use to say “Turn out the lights the parties over”. The Jackets go down by 30+ in Death Valley this weekend.
After the lost to BYU on October 27th, Coach CPJ slides out to town under the cover of darkness………….he best take Al with him.
Wreckmaniac, CMR may have a smirk after the Thanksgiving Saturday game, but CPJ will have to see it from his Television.
Knute

gtgrad81

October 1st, 2012
5:40 pm

Tech needs to learn how to tackle…..catch the ball…..block…..play with enthusiasm…..oh….that’s right….football 101. Worst football game I ever witnessed. DCAG players play with finesse…no aggression….players wait for the runner to run to them…….they “push” and don’t hit…no wonder why we lose in the fourth quarter….the other team is still fresh, since they been tagged and not tackled the whole game……..season is done. Good Luck Next Year….and fall just started.

GT1990

October 1st, 2012
5:44 pm

Can’t believe you waste your time writing something about the turf on saturday morning???????????????????????????????????????

yeller bug

October 1st, 2012
6:14 pm

All is not lost….we still have to play the rest of the games for that.

I just hope we play with heart and [w]reckless abandon….no need to be conservative—blitz, stunt, throw 10 passes in a row, onside kick at the start of the game—heck get a Comp Sci geeeek to write a program to select plays at random if you lack creativity. Play Vad no huddle from the pistol the whole 1st qtr…..A-back pass from Days…twice in a row….hey if we suck, then let’s have fun becasue it certainly cannot be any worse than Sat.

New Idea

October 1st, 2012
6:28 pm

I think we need to figure out why we can’t recruit more quality players. Our curriculum is limited and I am sure some go elsewhere because of that. Our admission standards are high but we are not admitting but 50% Georgians, this can’t be building spirit and is hurting Georgia in my mind. Why has GT raised admission standards so high it shuts out Georgians? Our charter says we exist FOR Georgia. We need some more majors Georgians can take.

GTpack

October 1st, 2012
6:30 pm

The big question this week is, “has the team given up” and even if they have not given up do they have enough talent and even the will to win.

GT1990

October 1st, 2012
6:42 pm

If you want Johnson fired press 1

wreckmaniac

October 1st, 2012
6:54 pm

If no one has been canned by now, they will not be this week. I am hoping for a 63- 10 game with Clemson so that DRAD has to can someone next week.

ZinoDawg

October 1st, 2012
7:23 pm

Hey look at the bright side – Jackets will get to play in a full stadium for a change instead of that almost empty high school field on North Ave.

Stumpknocker

October 1st, 2012
7:31 pm

Play V Lee from here on out………….The experience will do him good and prepare him for next year. T Washington has long since peaked……..now he’s just making more and more stupid mistakes. Maybe,……..occasionally, we can score enough points to overcome this horrid defense……….and one last thing AL GROH has got to goooooooooooooo!!!!!!

Old Blind Dawg

October 1st, 2012
7:51 pm

Nobody is going to be fired mid-season. Rational thinkers understand this – hyper fans don’t. Do you guys calling for CAG’s head understand firing him now will accomplish nothing.

Face the facts – GT needs better players – a different scheme (if they can’t get better players) – a fiery young guy that can recruit and motivate the current defensive players – none of which can be accomplished by firing CAG mid-season.

Ramblin Man

October 1st, 2012
7:57 pm

Groh will be fired by the years end. Sewak needs to go as the o-line coach as he has done a horrible job. CPJ needs to tell Tevin thank you and move on to Vad as this season is done and the kid needs the playing time. CPJ REALLY needs to start looking for a new DC and I suggest looking for a young hungry one that does not use the 3-4. Losing is one thing, but to do so in this fasion is ridiculous. My prediction is that Groh will be fired by the Duke game. For those calling for CPJ’s head you can forget it. It will take 12M to buy his contratc and GT just cannot afford that after letting Blewitt go.

Ramblin Man

October 1st, 2012
7:58 pm

Another post lost

Ramblin Man

October 1st, 2012
8:01 pm

Old Blind Dawg,
I agree but would be surprised if he is still there when GT plays UGA. By then if this shame of a defense is still playing like this GT will be lucky to have 2 more wins and no harm will come in him not being there or at the very least an announcement that it will be his final game.

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Old Blind Dawg

October 1st, 2012
8:58 pm

Ramble Man that makes sense – nice to see at least one rational Techster. Kind of hope you guys can get this mess turned around (except come November) for the sake of the players – I couldn’t care less about the coaching staff – never have liked CPJ.

gret

October 1st, 2012
9:02 pm

This is from the ramblin wreck web site under NCAA compliance: please pay special attention to the last sentence.

“Compliance Is Everyone’s Responsibility

Principle of Institutional Control
It is the responsibility of each member institution to control its intercollegiate athletics program in compliance with the rules and regulations of the NCAA. The institution’s chief executive officer is responsible for the administration of all aspects of the athletics program, including approval of the budget and audit of all expenditures.

Principle of Institutional Responsibility
The institution’s responsibility for the conduct of its intercollegiate athletics program includes responsibility for the actions of its staff members and for the actions of any other individual or organization engaged in activities promoting the athletics interests of the institution.

Principle of Rules Compliance
Each institution shall comply with all applicable rules and regulations of the NCAA in the conduct of its intercollegiate athletics programs. It shall monitor its programs to assure compliance and to identify and report to the NCAA instances in which compliance has not been achieved. In any such instance, the institution shall cooperate fully with the NCAA and shall take appropriate corrective actions. Members of an institution’s staff, student-athletes, and other individuals and groups representing the institution’s athletics interests shall comply with the applicable NCAA rules, and the member institution shall be responsible for such compliance. ”

How can this taken seriously when A D and Head Coach violated rules with no repercussions?

There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE TOP!

These clowns are making a joke of Tech and someone is letting them do it. Wake up!

gret

October 1st, 2012
9:07 pm

Need proof?

See scholarship penalties and vacated ACC championship.

Is there an adult in the house?

Is there no clause in a contract for relief when regulations are violated with knowledge and arrogance by the head of NCAA compliance – the A D?

Come on.

Did a UGA grad write ALL these contracts? (Including Hewiits?)

A very concerned Tech grad.

These people do not represent Tech. How long will it be tolerated? Well is poisoned.

Further evidence is player moral.

THWG

October 1st, 2012
9:13 pm

I think that Tech has a great chance at losing at Clemson, vs BYU, at UNC, at Maryland, and at UGA. If they do so (this would put them at 5-7), they should seriously consider firing PJ. There’s no doubt he’s a great coach but everything about Georgia Tech has become stale. This would be the third year in the row that ended in disappointment. Radakovich should only have to deal with so many times.

THWG

October 1st, 2012
9:15 pm

Actually losing those five would put them at 4-8. I honestly can’t see them doing any better than 6-6.

Papa Doc

October 1st, 2012
9:16 pm

and AD RAD keeps silent . . . come on

THWG

October 1st, 2012
9:18 pm

There’s a young fiery coach at FIU named Mario Cristobal, if he can recruit GA then he’s a great replacement

BV

October 1st, 2012
9:25 pm

Where’s John Tanuta? At least the blitz was consistent and fun to watch.

Bill from Dacusville

October 1st, 2012
10:10 pm

I’ve been a Tech fan since 1950–seen some hard times–only bright spot–my Granddaughter is a Freshman @ Clemson and she is looking forward to this Saturday BIG TIME—-

billyBobjacket

October 1st, 2012
10:45 pm

Buzzed-for-Life: “GT is the TOP school in the Nation academically.” Ummm..I am as proud of Tech’s academic standing as anyone, but even I know better to make THAT claim. Please show me a nationally recognized ranking that has Tech overall ranked ahead of Stanford, MIT, CalTech, Yale, Harvard, Northwestern, Chicago, etc. (Maybe in some of the small niche engineering programs, but even there we have some of the schools listed above.) Then again, it is about as reasonable to say that we are the best academic school in the nation as it is to say that CPJ and CAG can win here after ample evidence to the contrary.

realist

October 1st, 2012
11:01 pm

One more blowout loss out to turn the heat up a little more.

1 4 GT

October 2nd, 2012
1:21 am

IMNTBHO…..all any fan has the “right” to expect from their team. To be competitive! To put itself in a position to win at the end the game! To compete for the conference championship! To actually be the champion every now & again! To be competitive against their #1 rival & beat said rival every now & again! Maybe be “lucky” enough to even be in the mix for the MNC every now & again & maybe actually upsey the applecart & win it! If the fan’s team can just be competitive, all of the rest will fall in place. Like any business, it was not created to give us a job. No college/institution was created to give us a sports team to cheer for….that is supposed to secondary. Do we want/expect more? Do we want/expect to win like Alabama? Many fans answer those questions yes. Will they get their wish? Not likely. Enjoy your team’s successes & hurt for their losses. And live with both. And always have pride in your”s & their achievements. Wear your colors proudly. Selah.

Old Dog

October 2nd, 2012
7:52 am

To Hell with Tek, today, tomorrow and every other day!

old dog

October 2nd, 2012
8:34 am

Forget the above post……I am the “real” old dog, and I feel sorry for you true Tech fans who have had to endure this fiasco…………………

will you go to the prom with me, mom?

October 2nd, 2012
9:32 am

This loss has to be considered the most deflating, embarrassing and historic for sure. Being upset by an underdog is one thing but losing by 21 freaking points??? Are you kidding me? Worst loss in Tech history. 21 points is a beat down by a program that nobody has ever heard of. What a disgrace to the ACC and all Tech fans.

Tech75

October 2nd, 2012
10:02 am

The problem with the 3-4 is at the nose guard position. We haven’t been able to recruit the studs we need to play that position properly – all those types are going to the SEC, and I don’t think that’s going to change.

I think that BECAUSE we don’t have a run-stopping noseguard, the DEs end up not playing their position properly, because they want to help out the run defense up the middle, which prevents them from providing an outside rush for QB pressure.

So, my theory is that the 3-4 won’t work at Tech due to the inability to get quality NG talent.

And, fat 340 lb players don’t cut it. The one we’ve got appears to be about 30 % body fat. We need a 325 lb guy with 15% BF.

LKB

October 2nd, 2012
10:51 am

As a GaSouthern grad I laughed all day when GT hired Johnson. He was a total joke in Statesboro and all you delusional GT fans need to realize you are a second rate program, with third rate talent and forth rate DII coaching. Just realize the facts and you will feel much better.

Fair n Balanced

October 2nd, 2012
11:31 am

Didn’t CPG say something about the poor defense two weeks ago being an aberration? How’s that working out for ya now?

david

October 2nd, 2012
8:02 pm

ken do me a favor and dont liaten to that crap seth harp is going to tell you on thursday hes and idiot

david

October 2nd, 2012
8:03 pm

by the way yall ready for an upset this saturday at clemson

Eddie

October 2nd, 2012
9:30 pm

BTW, I wrote a letter to The AD voicing many of the feelings you, my colleagues, have voiced here (not you WinE). I received a call today from one of the AD young wonks. He seemed interested. Me being a 58 year season ticket holder, he better be interested. I told him Tech people tend to give a coach a break, IF THEY LIKE HIM. Nobody likes Johnson because he is so arrogant. Even the people in the office don’t like him (several have told me). His my way or the highway attitude about his offense (and everything else) is so old they carried it off Noah’s arc on a stretcher. Offenses change by the week with enlightened coaches. If you want to be the best, look at what the best do, not ostrich because it worked at GA Southern and at Navy (two major football powers to emulate). He is a fossil from another time and his time is up.

A-Tech-Grad

October 6th, 2012
1:23 am

“An Ode to the Engineers of the Gold and the Blue” —–
As the brave men and women – Engineers of the Gold and the Blue – go forth to do battle with the Tigers of the Clemson -
As they ride their mighty steeds of the Greyhound into the very heart of the “Valley of the Certain Death” -
They fear not the strange men of striped orange; nor their voracious fangs; nor their claws of terror.
With heads held high and adorned with honey-combs of gold, they go to meet almost certain defeat. But none hold fear in their heart; only anticipation of the coming battle!
They are filled with pride to be among the select few to defend the honor of the “Tech of the Georgia”.
May you once again perform your mighty feats of acrobatic wizardry and artistic majesty in your mighty deeds of the daring and the do.
Then once again, we may hear the shrill of the whistle from the very bowels of the hallowed halls of the “Tech of the Georgia”!!