Lee, Snoddy angling for playing time
A few notes that went unused in the notebook posted online.
1. Quarterback and B-backs coach Brian Bohannon said B-back Broderick Snoddy is getting closer to being able to play, but has to keep working on his blocking.
“He’s made some improvements, but that’s an area that’s still a little bit of a concern for us,” he said.
Bohannon was encouraged by Snoddy’s improved work rate in practice in recent weeks.
Said Bohannon, “We’ve got to keep working, see if we can get him out there.”
As for quarterback Vad Lee?
“I think we’d like to get him in the game (Saturday),” he said. “Every time he’s gone in, he’s done some good things. So we’ll just kind of have to see how the game goes and, obviously, that’s something you’d like to do.”
2. Rather remarkably, A-back Orwin Smith said he didn’t receive any nasty posts on his Twitter or Facebook accounts after his safety in Saturday’s game. Kind of unfortunate that this is actually unusual, but so it is.
“If anything, it was, You guys stay strong,” Smith said. “One guy actually messaged me and said, ‘You guys stay positive and stay strong because my third-graders look up to you guys.’ I thought that was real nice.”
Smith hasn’t relinquished hope that Georgia Tech can still win the conference. It is a longshot for Georgia Tech to win the Coastal Division and play for the ACC title – Virginia Tech and Miami would both have to lose three games – but Smith hasn’t given up hope.
“You never know, because one thing about the ACC, there’s always something surprising happening,” he said. “You have a team like Maryland beat Clemson just randomly. … You just have to keep going hard because you never know when that team on top can take a loss.”
3. Center Jay Finch has maintained his weight, which was a struggle last season as the season wore on. He was 284 or 285 pounds Tuesday before practice. He is trying to eat square meals “all day, every day.”
“Just eat what I can see and see what I eat,” Finch said. “Just shove it in.”
Tuesday, Finch had eggs and bacon for breakfast and a turkey burger and a sub sandwich with a Powerade and chips for lunch.
More Finch trivia – he met Waffle House president and COO Walt Ehmer (a Tech grad) at an on-campus speaking engagement Tuesday (Ehmer’s, not Finch’s). Ehmer asked if there were any football players in attendance. When Finch raised his hand, Ehmer commiserated with him over the Miami loss.
“He was like, Hey, come talk to me when you graduate, which was cool,” Finch said.
More notes posted tonight, 9ish. Please follow me on Twitter.
In case you missed it…
Tech rebounding after Miami loss
The meaning of Tech giving up 609 yards
After Miami loss, Tech tries to regroup
Mark Bradley: Johnson’s approach hurting Tech
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gt1012
September 26th, 2012
11:15 am
first
fuzzybee78
September 26th, 2012
11:17 am
Thanks for all the good works Ken!
juvenal
September 26th, 2012
11:17 am
Gotsis?
Ken Sugiura
September 26th, 2012
11:19 am
well done, gt1012.
thanks, fuzzybee78.
Johnson said last week that Gotsis is among those who needs to play more. Shawn Green was another.
gt1012
September 26th, 2012
11:20 am
I hope the players can bounce back and prove all the naysayers wrong. Players: it’s not about CPJ, the option, Groh, etc. etc. It’s about YOU. It doesn’t matter that you’ve done or what you or anyone else thinks you can do. It only matters what YOU DO. Go out and prove to everyone what you’re made of.
JustinSyder
September 26th, 2012
11:21 am
I wouldn’t think Orwin would get any threats.
fuzzybee78
September 26th, 2012
11:23 am
Vad and Snoddy need to be in a position to help us at Clemson and down the stretch. Cant teach what they already have, speed and athleticism. Lets get the footwork and blocking down and have some fun!
Ga Tech Old Timer
September 26th, 2012
11:25 am
I thought I read a blog a couple days ago that quoted Johnson saying he was going to red shirt Gotsis. Was I mistaken?
Ken Sugiura
September 26th, 2012
11:37 am
You were mistaken or the blog was wrong. Gotsis has already played this season.
GTBob
September 26th, 2012
11:37 am
Ga Tech Old Timer, you had to have been mistaken because Gostis has already played this year. His red shirt has already been burned.
ignition
September 26th, 2012
11:45 am
Enter your comments here
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
11:47 am
Good work Ken. Thanks. Like seeing Snoddy is close to playing. If he’s still having trouble with blocking assignments, simplify things for him. Surely Coach has a simple play or 2. Just put the ball in his hands & light his ‘burner. Really hope Lee gets most of the playing time Sat. TW works hard & gives the maximum he has. But…..I paid more attention than before to Tevin against UM….in the 2nd half. What’s up with the 180^ & 360^ spins. Seems like wasted motion & time to me. Surely the time that takes is not planned. 1 (one) second to make that spin. Seems like wasted time for the blockers to hold there blocks. I’m no offensive coaching genius, but I would not design any plays like that. I don’t intend to knock Tevin. He has looked like he has improved most of the time. But if these spins are not a designed part of the play to create misdirection & Tevin is making (god I hate to feed GT Joe) errors like that, how can he remain the starter. I can’t recall ever seeing a QB do that spin. Take the snap from center….1 step back….pivot left….pivot 180^ (pretty sure I saw 1 360^)….execute the play….designed or mistake….sure seems like wasted time spent making these moves….if this is CPJ’s misdirection, I’ve never noticed a QB doing that before….misdirection is created by sending a RB one way with a fake while the real play goes another direction without the spinning time wasting moves by the QB. Just asking here. Seems like an unnecessary complication & adding chances of tackles for little or no gain or a loss at best.
ignition
September 26th, 2012
11:50 am
Honestly I see no reason why Vad, Snoddy, Gotis, Autry, or any of the young players shouldn’t see and get more experience IN Game..
With the lack of depth on the D Line currently Tech should be getting these young guys experience in the rotation and ready to fill the holes once the uninspiring Barnes leaves..
TW will not be winning a title so play Vad and B Back play has been a bust get Snoddy in the game and let your players, who imo are more explosive than the current starts in the, play !!!
Golden White
September 26th, 2012
11:59 am
Sept. 25 @ 5:58 pm
Johnson said that wide receiver Anthony Autry will play more. The other true freshmen besides White, Autry, Adam Gotsis and Ryan Rodwell will likely be redshirted.
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
12:14 pm
Just win, and things may have a way of working themselves out.
HighTech
September 26th, 2012
12:18 pm
Teddy Roosevelt, one of our greatest Presidents, is absolutely right.
My favorite quote from President Roosevelt:
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. “
GT Fan
September 26th, 2012
12:26 pm
2. Rather remarkably, A-back Orwin Smith said he didn’t receive any nasty posts on his Twitter or Facebook accounts after his safety in Saturday’s game. Kind of unfortunate that this is actually unusual, but so it is.
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Things like this disturb me. NOT that OS hasn’t received nasty posts, but that college atheletes have Twitter and Facebook accounts that they’re so dam* concerned about! Where in the heck is college atheletics headed?
OS, get your fargin mind off the Twitter & Facebook, and play some ball why don’t you.
And don’t get me started with the circus that recruiting has become. What a joke! And people like Michael Carvel are ringleading that circus.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
12:32 pm
“ignition” mentioned the “uninspired” Barnes. I really hate to criticize these kids but….a caller on 790theZone on Monday said this about TJ….”the next time Barnes collapses the pocket will be the first time”. I listened to this & thought about it. Had I seen TJ actually do that….or get a sack…or make a QB hurry….or disrupt the QB play in any way at all? TJ has made some tackles for loss. But the other stuff I mentioned? I’m almost certain I have not seen any of it from TJ. Of course, I don’t watch just TJ. But, I do see the plays as they develop. A man his size & supposed strength should require 2 blockers pretty much every play. 6′7″ & 350 lbs. He should, by a substantial amount, be the strongest guy on the team. If I were that large & some other player out lifted me, I would get mad enough to catch him & pass him. I couldn.t stand for some “little” guy to out do me. I would challenge all the big guys to workout with me & strive to out do me. I wonder if he is still operating on his high school rep. You just know he was pretty much unblockable in high school because of his size. He plays much the same now from what little time I have watched just him. Somebody needs to build a really big fire under his “John Brown hind parts”….to quote Denzel Washington.
GIVE ME A BREAK
September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
Smith needs to come out of the end zone everytime. Who cares if Snoddy can block, he’s a track star. His blocking skills will improve when he see how much others blocking helps him when he has the ball. Lee should play the whole second half against MTSU. ” GO JACKETS “
Tech dropout
September 26th, 2012
12:58 pm
GT Fan must be an old fart talking about Twitter and Facebook like that. Either that our has no clue about the younger people in today’s world.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
1:05 pm
I thought CPJ banned the use of Twitter by the players.
GIVE ME A BREAK
September 26th, 2012
1:06 pm
Ken, I can’t imagine anyone doing a better job of covering GT sports than you do. Again, ” THANK YOU VERY MUCH.”
GIVE ME A BREAK
September 26th, 2012
1:08 pm
1 4 GT, good memory. I remember reading something about that.
GIVE ME A BREAK
September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm
Maybe they can receive but not send.
Golden White
September 26th, 2012
1:16 pm
CPJ bans twitter.
http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-tech-sports/2012/08/30/johnson-places-twitter-ban-on-tech/
Same Old
September 26th, 2012
1:19 pm
Paul Johnson doesn’t have enough grey matter to start Lee.
Maybe when the game is out of hand in MT’s favor.
Then he put in Lee.
It’s slo-mo, slo-brain TW.
www
September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm
“Rather remarkably, A-back Orwin Smith said he didn’t receive any nasty posts on his Twitter or Facebook accounts after his safety in Saturday’s game. Kind of unfortunate that this is actually unusual, but so it is.”
weird. WNE doesn’t know orwin smith’s twitter handle?
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
1:56 pm
LOL @ www
www
September 26th, 2012
1:57 pm
“GT Fan” u seriously expect a player to stop using facebook so he can only think about playing football for a team you follow?
GTFO. seriously. these players have lives outside of football and your “fan”aticism.
Yes, GT 1 4...
September 26th, 2012
1:58 pm
…QB’s have been doing the 360 (really more of a 270* spin) on counter plays since the counter play was invented (you are young, aren’t you?)..
And Same Old, Vad would play if he were good enough, so youm and the rest of you, give the “play Vad Lee” manta a rest – the kid is not ready and that is all there is to it…coaches play whomever gives them the best chance to win, and this year it is TW, no matter what you and others think of want…
www
September 26th, 2012
1:59 pm
and kudos to ken on the excellent covereage, as always.
www
September 26th, 2012
1:59 pm
*coverage
juvenal
September 26th, 2012
2:02 pm
GRADUATED IN 1012? & i thot i wuz old…….
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
2:07 pm
I would say that the main argument for the start Lee argument is not who will give us the best shot to win this year, but giving us a better shot to win in the following years. This is Tevin’s last season as our qb. He already graduated, and will have exhausted every year of eligibility after this season. Lee is the heir apparent, and will most likely be our starting qb going into next season. He may not be “good enough” to start, but neither was Tevin when he took the reigns. The best way to get experience running this offense and the leadership skills, which Tevin has both, are to play meaningful minutes in game situations.
www
September 26th, 2012
2:16 pm
meaningful minutes against MTSU sounds good.
starting seems unlikely unless tevin is out for some reason.
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
2:17 pm
To the person saying don’t play Vad Lee because he isn’t ready . . . that would be the point behind playing him genius. As far as I’m concerned, any real hope for the season is lost. And we all know what the ceiling is with TW in the game (8, maybe 9 wins if lucky and a bowl loss). So why not take the risk on this season to get Lee as much experience as possible, and prepare him for the next season? Quite frankly, it’s what I’d love to see. You wanna see more seats filled? Put in a guy like Lee who actually looks like he can break a play for a TD every time he touches the ball. You don’t get that sense of excitement when Tevin is on the field. TW is a great guy, and you have to be appreciative of what he has done for the Institute, but with the season pretty much lost in my opinion, play the guy with the higher ceiling and get him ready for the future. You never know what the guy is going to be able to do until we see him in a full game experience. Just my two cents.
Surely you jest, Teddy...
September 26th, 2012
2:18 pm
…”He [Lee] may not be “good enough” to start, but neither was Tevin when he took the reigns”.
Uh, I believe TW took over last year, and his competition then was Vad…be careful what you write…
Some of you are just morons who have no clue how good, or bad, a player is in practice, and that is what a coach goes on when deciding who gives the team the best chance to win…most coaches I know do not want to get fired, so they play the best players at all positions who they, and their position coaches think will give them the best shot to win, no matter what the fan base may think or want…and not many coaches will sit a senior who performs well most of the time (over 40 points per game in TW’s case)…
GTPhenom does not...
September 26th, 2012
2:20 pm
…live up to his name with his last dumb arse “two cents” of a post…if you can’t play in practice, you can’t play in games – it is really quite simple…
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
2:21 pm
And by full game experience, all I mean is that there is always the chance that we start Lee, and he sets the team on fire. Not saying it will happen, or even that it is likely, but he has that kind a of athleticism and drive from what I’ve seen to be able to do that. Not to mention he actually looks like he has a decent arm, something we haven’t seen on campus probably since Joe Hamilton himself was here.
And, coaches...
September 26th, 2012
2:22 pm
…do not live for “next year”, mainly because they might not be there “next year”, so they play the guys who give them the best chance “this year”, no matter how the first four games of the year have gone…
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
2:23 pm
Lol, bothered much? I posted my opinion friend. If that bothers you then . . . . oh wait, I don’t give two damns if it bothers you. It’s an OPINION. Get over yourself. I said play him so that he gets the meaningful minutes to be ready for the FUTURE. You must have missed the part where I said I’m basing this off the fact that this season is pretty much a bust at this point.
And, quite a "bothered."..
September 26th, 2012
2:25 pm
…opinion at that…
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
2:26 pm
And coaches . . . that isn’t always the case. Coaches know all too well what their team situation is. Tevin is gone after this year, and has yet to do anything of merit outside of beating an overrated top ten Clemson last year (kudos on that . . .) I’ll say it again. I like the guy, and he’s been a class act in representing the institute since he came here, but being “loyal” because he is a senior is asking for trouble. Play the guy who is going to be here for more than 8, maybe 9 more games and try and make the future as bright as possible. I’ve gone through enough crappy GT teams to know that you sometimes gotta be patient in waiting for a great team.
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
2:27 pm
Lol, like I said, why does it bother you so much? Are you TW’s father? Some of us aren’t so close minded that we can’t see past just this season. I’d rather be good in the future if it means sucking it up the rest of this year.
DOC 51
September 26th, 2012
2:29 pm
How many SNODDY touchdowns will we miss waiting for COACH B.to declare him a great blocker?The same can be said for BOSTIC.How can CAG watch 52 pass attempts and not get pressure on the QB.I guess winning games doesn’t really matter.
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
2:35 pm
My logic is based on this. Assuming we win the games we are “supposed” to win going through the rest of the season, the Jackets will be sitting at BEST at 8-4 at the end of the year (losses to UGA/Clemson). But after losing to Miami, who looked TERRIBLE through the first three weeks of the season, who’s to say we won’t lose to UNC, or BYU, or hell, even Duke, who, by the way, sits with a better record than us right now. We tend to throw in one WTF loss every year somewhere, so we might be looking at 7-5, 8-4 at best and another ho-hum crappy bowl game. Put it guys who have great potential, and I don’t honestly care if that means we don’t make another pointless bowl game. If it means we have even a shot at a BCS bowl going forward, I think it is worth doing just that.
headley lamar
September 26th, 2012
2:35 pm
I thought CPJ banned the use of Twitter by the players.
He did. The players are starting to tune him out.
Its gonna get a lot worse before it gets better sports fans.
Hey, GTPhenom...
September 26th, 2012
2:37 pm
…don’t take it personal, we’re just having a spirited conversation here on a topic on which we have two divergent opinions…my bad for calling your comments dumb arse…
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
2:39 pm
Tevin took over when Nesbitt got hurt, he wasn’t “good enough” to start which is why he was the #2 on the depth chart.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
2:41 pm
Yes GT 1 4…..no, I am far from young….but I will defer to your knowledge….I don’t recall seeing any other QB’s do that spin move before….but then I rarely watch one player exclusively….I watch the whole field while following the ball….I did Google counter play football however….that search turned up the following result, one of many….feel free to watch the video of the counter play….not once do I see the QB doing a spin move of more than 90^ & all QB’s do that in the normal course of the game….I guess I failed in my efforts to explain what I was trying to convey properly….please excuse me…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yfav_6B30
Sam
September 26th, 2012
2:48 pm
You know what’s really cool is the fact that CEOs and COOs come knocking on doors of Tech Football Players!
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
2:49 pm
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT SAM!!!!
OK, GT 1 4...
September 26th, 2012
2:55 pm
…thanks for the video link – what you are confusing is a “pure” counter play with what Tech is running some of the time, which is a counter “option” play – in the video the QB is going one way and then handing off to someone going the “counter” way, usually led by a pulling guard or tackle –
In the the GT counter “option” the QB goes one way (90 degrees from the center), usually faking a hand off to the B back, then spins180* and sprints down the line to a) run it himself; b) pitch it to the A back who has gone in the same direction as the Q; or C) drop back to pass after going down the line like a “pitch” option –
The QB run and the pitch part are true options for the QB, depending upon who he is “optioning” off (the DE or ther OLB); the pass part of the equation is a true pass play that just looks like an option to “freeze” the defensive backs so that thhe leave the receiver (either the split end or the other A back, and sometimes even the B back) open down the field…
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
2:59 pm
Thanks, I always wondered about that too, since it seems we are the only ones running plays involving our qb spinning that much
headley lamar
September 26th, 2012
3:01 pm
You know what’s really cool is the fact that CEOs and COOs come knocking on doors of Tech Football Players!
That is awesome.
Wonder which one knocked on Reggie Ball’s door ? Or Stephon Marbury’s ?
They are probably both executives with Coca Cola or NASA by now.
So awesome too that 95 percent of the Tech players are majoring in ahem ,… ” Management ”
That wouldn’t be a coincidence would it ?
The truth is most of the UGA players qualified to go to Tech also.
Aaron Murray would have. Keith Marshall would have and most of the others.
As long as Tech fans insist they cant win because of Academics.
They wont.
Let's see...
September 26th, 2012
3:04 pm
…not many knocked on Reggie’s door (that I know of), yet there were many major players lining up for Marbury, and he was only here one year, kind of like Bill Gates at Harvard…Marbury only made about 40 mil off his Tech attendance – not a bad return…
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm
Headley, you mean the management program that is considered one of the best in the nation and is best in the state? The management program, that I can tell you from personal friends of mine I know who are in the program have to do almost as much work as engineering majors? You mean that management program? Don’t twist reality. GT Management is a challenging and top flight program in the nation.
RambleOn84
September 26th, 2012
3:07 pm
First of all, let me say this: No matter what happens from this point, I will appreciate Paul Johnson for what he has done. He has shown us Tech can compete with the big boys. No, we can’t always BEAT the big boys, but we CAN compete. And once in a while, we can win some hardware.
I also think he is building something good here. Look at the team right now. There is no doubt in my mind that, top to bottom, it is the most talented team we have had here. We have some stud underclassmen at important positions. Just to name a few, Jeremiah Attaochu, Louis Young, Brandon Watts, Quayshawn Nealy, Shawn Green, Jabari Hunt-Days, Vad Lee, Justin Thomas, Francis Kallon, Broddy Snoddy. Plenty I’m leaving off here, including several good young O-linemen.
With this said, I have to agree with the sentiment that Vad should be getting more playing time. Not necessarily starting, but getting more meaningful snaps. Because of all of the young talent here, we need to be playing for the future. I don’t want to completely give up on the season, but I think it’s important to look ahead as well.
2013 could be a very good year for us, as the schedule falls right, and we return a TON of players.
Tevin is a good QB, but Vad has the potential to be special.
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
3:07 pm
And to the person I was having a conversation with, I have zero problem with differing opinions, lol. I simply took offense to the fact that your response was at first basically saying I’m an idiot without offering any reasoning as to why. Apology more than accepted. Most of us are GT fans who are more than ready to support the program and simply want to see it succeed. And going back to my previous idea, I’ve actually altered it a bit. I do give Tevin til he loses another conference game. Technically as long as he doesn’t lose another conference game, there is still a chance I suppose.
RambleOn84
September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm
Don’t wrestle with a pig…you’ll just get dirty, and the pig likes it anyway.
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm
32>57
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm
That was my point RambleOn84, I simply didn’t convey it correctly. No reason to put all our chips in on a season that already has us behind the eight ball with 2 division losses early. No reason we can’t start preparing for next year, which, with the advantageous schedule you mentioned, could be very special
GT Fan
September 26th, 2012
3:13 pm
1 4 GT … re: your post about TJ Barnes … I’m with you there! I don’t think I’ve ever seen him record a sack. His DL mate Izaan Cross, as I posted on another blog, only has 3.0 sacks to date in his career. Give me a minute, and I’ll go to ESPN and look up TJ’s career sack totals ………….
Okay, I’m back. TJ, according to ESPN (and the games they had stats posted/recorded), has ONE (1) career sack! It came vs. Clemson last season.
So, per ESPN, TJ & Cross, both SRs, have combined for 4.0 sacks in their careers!
GT needs some DLmen …. bad!
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
3:14 pm
OK GT 1 4….I will make one more post on this subject….I have looked at several videos on Google under “counter option play football”….Ga Southern with a CPJ acolyte as HC….& GT with Nesbitt as QB….in none of what I looked at did the QB do the spin move that I tried to explain in my 1st post on this subject….I am not posting a link because I looked at more than one & don’t see that it would make much difference anyway….so you are free to do your own research or not….you are free to think you are correct or not….all I know is what I have already posted….I guess we will just disagree….BTW….not that it matters much….my blog name is 1 4 GT
GT Fan
September 26th, 2012
3:27 pm
About my previous post and GT needing DLmen ……
A Wikipedia find shows Derrick Morgan recorded SEVEN (7) sacks in 2008 (his Soph season) and TWELVE (12) sacks in 2009 (his Jr.and final season). His Freshman season in 2007 it’s reported that he played in 12 of 13 games recording NINE tackles but doesn’t specify sacks.
So, as I posted above, here we have TJ Barnes & Izaan Cross, both in their Sr. season, and COMBINED they only have 4.0 career sacks! Derrick Morgan played 3 season and record NINETEEN (19) sacks.
Wow! I knew GT needed DLmen, I just didn’t know how bad.
fuzzybee78
September 26th, 2012
3:31 pm
With respect to Twitter and the players, I expect CPJ banned POSTING on Twitter not seeing what others have posted.
headley lamar
September 26th, 2012
3:38 pm
Headley, you mean the management program that is considered one of the best in the nation and is best in the state? The management program, that I can tell you from personal friends of mine I know who are in the program have to do almost as much work as engineering majors? You mean that management program?
Yes that management program,
I find it funny and convenient that almost every football player ( and I would imagine a lot of other athletes ) list this as their major.
There wouldn’t be a reason for that would there ?
Ken Sugiura
September 26th, 2012
3:39 pm
I’d suspect the ban covers posting on Twitter but not reading it. It’d be kind of the same distinction between a person being banned from posting on the blog but not following the discussion.
this is only my opinion, but i don’t think “playing for next year” is going to happen. my thinking would be that coaches (at tech or anywhere else) wouldn’t do that to the team’s seniors or themselves. i don’t think there are many coaches who would willingly sacrifice wins like that, even if it may have a benefit down the road. it’s the nature of the beast.
Give me a break – that is incredibly kind. thank you.
Grinch
September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm
Teddy is right. TW was thrown to the wolves. CPJ should do that with Vad. The only way you learn game speed is to play against game speed. No QB is every “full proof ready” if he’s never started a single game. You have to play them and play them against top competition. They will learn trial by fire. It’s that simple. He either sinks or swims and I have a feeling that the kid can eventually swim and swim very fast. He just needs to be on the field to make mistakes and learn how to avoid them down the line.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
3:47 pm
@ Ken…..my name thief is back on your “fount of hope?” blog
CT_Jacket
September 26th, 2012
3:52 pm
It would have been nice if we had gotten Tuitt. He has 6 sacks for ND this year. However, Tuitt plays in a 4-3 defense.
I’m no football expert, but typically, the LBs get most of the sacks in the 3-4, so I don’t think the comparison from Morgan to TJ and IC is quite fair. Also, Morgan was a very good 4-3 DE, which is why he was drafted in the first round. But to your point, TJ is in the most important position on the defense, and, while he has worked hard to improve his strength and conditioning, he isn’t getting it done.
DS CE'91
September 26th, 2012
3:54 pm
If we start “playing for the future” every year when we can’t reach our top goals, we will NEVER be playing for “this year.”
My word, people, we still have some shot at a 10 win season! As such, I want CPJ to field the team every week that has the best chance to WIN THE %@#$& GAME!. We have played 4 games, folks. Can’t we at least wait until mid-season before throwing in the towel?
And I just love how folks toss the Seniors under the bus. “We no longer have a reasonable shot to be national/ACC champs anymore, so you guys hit the bench. No, you can’t try to beat UGA, BYU, go to a bowl game, etc. But thanks for your efforts, crappy as they were.”
Georgia Tech is more than that. It has to be; otherwise, I’m wasting my time as a Jacket alum and fan.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
3:56 pm
I started out after Saturday leaving the game angry, disappointed & distraught. The anger faded throughout Sunday as I examined the game in a rational way. I am still very disappointed however. Let’s create a little theory here. I have no doubt that CPJ cares about his “boys”. I have no doubt that he cares about the program. It is, after all, his “baby”. I have no doubt he cares about losing. He is a proud & competent man. He wants to win as much as “most” of us want him to win, if not more. Allow me to build a scenario to base my theory on. GT plays UMiami (notice I will not call them the “u”..how stupid & arrogant..they have not been worthy of my respect since the days of Jimmy Johnson & Warren Sapp with their thugish style of play). GT falls behind in the 1st quarter 19-0. They mount a charge & flip the score around to 36-19. This was accomplished with relative ease. The team got kinda complacent and thought they had beaten the hurricanes and relaxed. But Miami had some fiery coaches and lit a fire under their hind quarters. CPJ saw this “relaxed” attitude taking hold in his team & tried to head it off. I can see how this could play out. This is no more than human nature. You begin to see the “light at the end of the tunnel” being to your benefit. The group sees it. “Mob mentality” anyone? The win is within your grasp. But the other side fights back & pulls victory from our hands. Sound familiar? Sun Bowl? VT? I am using just the most recent examples. We have been thinking it is/was CPJ going conservative. One side builds a comfortable lead with little apparent resistance. The game is winding down. “Our” side thinks, we got this one & begins patting themselves on the back. Then lightening strikes. The other side catches a break or two & scores a TD. The other side starts thinking this ain’t over. They start playing harder while our side has gone a bit soft in their efforts. The score flips & the other side wins. Sound possible? Sounds perfectly plausible to me. These are really just”kids” with mercurial emotions. I really can see some of our losses playing out just like this. Could it be possible for the offense to score too easily & too fast at times? I say yes! Could it be that the better teams mount a comeback ala Miami, VT & Utah in my scenario? Reach your own conclusions. Just saying. Selah.
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm
14 GT and Yes, the triple option/bone/veer offenses all incoporate the QB rotating or “spinning” the opposite direction of the play…it always has, we did this running the veer in HS in the 80’s. As Yes GT said, it’s usually a 270* rotation. This also provides a slight delay, to set the play in motion which is how this offense is designed to run. This is not a counter play. A counter play usually precipitates a fake movement by the running back and then a “counter” move the other direction. Also, the rotation by the QB is supposed to provide some sort of mis-direction as to where the play is going, but like we said, this has been part of this offense for many years so I don’t think it makes that much of a difference. I tend to agree that sometimes it seems to take too long for our plays to develop and result getting stuffed for no gain or a loss. Hope that helps.
George Stein
September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm
Co-sign, RambleOn84.
George Stein
September 26th, 2012
4:00 pm
Good news, Headley. We have a name for the logical flaw in your comments. It’s called argument by selective observation. Get back to us when you overcome it.
Regards,
Everyone with a functioning brain
DOC 51
September 26th, 2012
4:03 pm
KEN,ask CPJ to specifically address his (W-L RECORD for the last 4 yrs.) against VT,UM,UGA,AND BOWL TEAMS.I would love to hear his answer.THANKS!
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
4:05 pm
@ DOC 51……I can tell you right now what CPJ will say. He will say something to the effect that it is what it is. I know some people don’t like an answer like that, but why should he say more, and what would he say anyway? Only people like Mark Bradley ask stupid questions like that. I am sure that Ken has more sense and more class.
George Stein
September 26th, 2012
4:08 pm
Guess what, DOC51? If you have the stones, you can ask him the question yourself. His call-in show is at 7:00 EDT Wednesdays. Pick up the phone if you like.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
4:10 pm
@ George……I didn’t know he had a call-in show. I bet that’s a hoot
George Stein
September 26th, 2012
4:11 pm
Every Wednesday evening, Supersize. They might not have it in your neck of the woods, but you can listen online at 790’s website.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
4:13 pm
They don’t have anything dealing with Tech in Augusta on the radio other than the broadcast of the games, and they don’t even carry the pre-game or post-game shows…..just the games. I need to remember to bring it up online tonight
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
4:14 pm
I by no means want us to give up on this year and start playing solely for next year, I merely want to avoid next year being a rebuilding year with a new qb running the offense. Tebow saw the field significantly as a freshman backup, and look how that worked out.
DOC 51
September 26th, 2012
4:14 pm
CPJ may not get asked the question,Supersize,but he is accountable.Any top CEO would have been fired already with that record.
Sorry 1 4 GT......
September 26th, 2012
4:16 pm
…my bad for calling you GT 1 4 –
And while you do not want to believe it, what TW does on the Tech counter option is exactly as it is designed – there is no error on TW’s part i n doing what you call the “spin move”, he is not going the “wrong” way and then correcting it.
And while I did not want to get too technical re: your video research, what you showed was basically a misdirection play, and not a “true” counter play – what you showed is what is referred to as a “trap” play, with no counter motion by the QB at all – and what you described as TW stepping back, then going 90* left or right, then spinning 180* is the design of a counter play, and it is run by ALL option teams, whether it is Tech, GSU, Air Force, or anybody – what you seemingly have not observed is the “one step back” by the QB, but this is by design to freeze the ILB’s and safety while they try to figure out which way the QB will go, and then they fly to which ever way he initially goes, before he spins, thus leaving them vulnerable to the down blocks…and it has been run this way since the creation of the option back in the 60’s and modified by TX, AL, OK, OR, FL, WVU, and others…
I really do not mean to be technical, but now you can appreciate WHY the defense has such hard time with the TO, and why QB’s have a difficult executing the offense to perfection, and why Vad is not playing…
crackbaby
September 26th, 2012
4:18 pm
@RambleOn84 – “Don’t wrestle with a pig…you’ll just get dirty, and the pig likes it anyway.”
Amen, brother…
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
4:21 pm
Thanks G.P. Burdell….I played in an offense in the 60’s under a coach that told us our offense was based on the Houston Veer. I do know that our QB (who signed a scholarship with Bobby Dodd in 1961 & destroyed a knee his freshman year & beat Billy Lothridge their senior years in high school) never made that spin move immediately after the snap from center. I watched parts of 6 videos from Google “research”. In none of them did I see a QB “spinning” in place. Nebraska….Ga Southern….GT….all running some variation of an option offense. Y’all say that the QB makes the “spin” move. The videos I have watched & my memory say different. Maybe my memory is wrong. Maybe the videos are wrong. I dunno.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
4:22 pm
@ DOC 51…..Although I would love for us to have a better record, I DO believe that CPJ is doing everything that could possibly be done to produce a winner at Tech, other than PERHAPS his choice of a defensive coordinator. If I were a CEO for whom he worked, and I observed his work ethic and promise, then I would certainly not be ready to fire him……YET
ibidGT
September 26th, 2012
4:22 pm
CPJ also said Perkins would get more playing time. He played him on 3 plays then pulled him…
So not sure how many more plays, if any, Snoddy, Lee, and others will actually have…
crackbaby
September 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
Not that anybody should listen to anything I post, but…
Tech has a lot to play for THIS SEASON. Win all (remaining) home games. Get better every week. Go to Athens in Nov. and shock the world.
After only 4 games, anybody who says play for next year doesn’t have much first hand experience with competitive team sports. There is a lot of talent on the field. Tech barely lost those two games. The future is bright…
That explains a lot, 1 4 GT......
September 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
…you are a child of the 60’s and most for of us, if we didn’t have flashbacks we would have no memory at all, based on everything that was happening back then…
George Stein
September 26th, 2012
4:26 pm
You can ask him, DOC51!
That explains a lot, 1 4 GT......
September 26th, 2012
4:27 pm
…”for most of us” – see, I cannot even remember how to construct sentences…
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
4:27 pm
Perkins is also out for the year
ibidGT
September 26th, 2012
4:28 pm
Perkins wasn’t out for the year when he started a game, played 3 plays, then wasn’t seen again.
DERP
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
4:29 pm
14 GT, check out this video, this is what we’re talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nmh1zCBlKw&feature=related
Watch at :40, :47, and :56 and you will see TW “spin” or rotate out from under center the opposite direction the play is actually going, resulting in a 270* rotation. There are a few examples where he doesn’t, as those are simple play-action plays with a pitch/pass option.
The vast majority of the plays you’ll see in this video show TW pulling out from center the opposite direction the play is actually going resulting in the rotation the other way. Look closer and you’ll see. On one of the first examples, they’ll show a slow-mo of the play and you should be able to catch it there.
crackbaby
September 26th, 2012
4:34 pm
Like coach said, Snoddy is not going to play much if he keeps missing blocks. He should learn from Robby Godhigh – that kid erases his man.
What are all the Vad Lee lovers going to do next year when he starts – call for Justin Thomas to start?
Go Jackets. Win NOW!
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September 26th, 2012
4:36 pm
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Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
4:36 pm
@ ibidGT…..since those were the last 3 plays which Perkins played, I would say it is safe to assume he got injured on the 3rd one and is now out for the year as a result of it.
crackbaby
September 26th, 2012
4:39 pm
BTW – is it just me or does TW give up on the play after handing the ball off to a B-back?
He doesn’t “finish” the play by continuing to run hard with the A-back trailing/leading. In fact, he mostly looks back at the B-back hitting the line.
If memory serves, Joshua didn’t do that. He kept running hard east-west.
ibidGT
September 26th, 2012
4:49 pm
Perkins got those 3 carries against Presbyterian. He played against Virginia, granted he had no carries. The article that mentioned him hurt was released after the Virginia game.
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
4:52 pm
Check this out:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/26/14112966-playboy-ranks-university-of-virginia-as-no-1-party-school?lite
Maybe this is why we thrashed UVA so bad. If my memory serves me right, Thuga was #1 in ‘08. They’ve slipped a bit, but still in the top 10. I can’t believe Vandy is right behind them.
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
4:55 pm
ibidGT, I have to respectfully disagree. Perkins got his 3 carries in the VT game and hasn’t played since. Laskey started the Pres. game and was hurt in the first half and didn’t play the second. Laskey also started and played primarily at B-back in the UVA and UM games.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
4:56 pm
@ ibidGT…..I don’t know when Perkins’ injury was incurred. Perhaps he was already injured when he came in against UVA but didn’t have any carries because he was testing out the injury. I don’t know. However, I do know that he never looked particularly good last year, so hopefully it will be good for him to sit out the year. Maybe he will come back better. We shall see.
Jacket Detective
September 26th, 2012
4:57 pm
Maybe I am Tevin’s daddy.
I can tell u this.
If I was a starting QB, I would sure prefer to have someone like Morgan and Burnett on the defense than the group that gave up 600 yards to the Canes.
Yall must have read my Wake commentary.
Nesbit failed on 4th down with the ACCCG on the line and Morgan saved the team with a sack.
I’m just guessing but Tevin would love to have someone like that on our D.
I’ve thought he played good enough in all three losses to be the hero.
I hate for any young man to have a drive that ends with a lead and less than a minute left and not get to be the hero.
Not only does he not get to be the hero.
Half of u guys pore over his every move looking for a flaw.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
5:00 pm
If y’all say so I guess. I guess the videos just didn’t show me the correct plays. Snap from center…1 step back…turn 90^ &1 step left or right & spin 180^….head toward sideline to handoff, pitch, keep or dropback & pass….or spin 180^ from center & run away from LOS & fake or make handoff or dropback, turn & pass….or turn towards sideline to handoff, pitch, or keep or dropback & pass….that sound about right????BTW….My hs coach might have been ahead of his times….running an inverted Y (upside down wishbone)….not really a T formation but close….incorporated into the Houston Veer (his term) several years before Daryl Royal & his OC Emory Bellard (designer/inventer) started using the Texas Wishbone….he never got any credit from Royal or Bellard….very prolific offense….beat all but 2 teams by 30 points or more….more than 60 points in 2 or 3 games….even the subs scored in all but 2 games
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
5:00 pm
Correction on my previous comment Re: Perkins. He actually had 4 carries in the 2nd half of the Pres. game after Laskey was hurt, but hasn’t had any carries since. PJ has stated he has some sort of upper body injury which leads me to believe he either broke or dislocated his shoulder resulting in the long recovery.
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
5:03 pm
Who wouldn’t love to have 2 NFL caliber starters playing on their team’s defense?
Jacket Detective
September 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
Why are so many of our injuries described mysteriously?
Are we trying to be the college version of the Boston Patriots?
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
That explains a lot….boy are ever right….I call it an attack of sometimers
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
5:06 pm
Enter your comments here
crackbaby
September 26th, 2012
5:06 pm
@Jacket Detective – Those folks are suffering from a love affair with the 2nd string QB. It is a widespread virus that infects college and pro football fans…
Your perspective is appreciated here.
Jacket Detective
September 26th, 2012
5:09 pm
Well guess what.
Nesbitt would have a Wake defeat most likely without Morgan and no ACCCG victory because we would have finished 2nd.
Then we could pore over that 4th down failure and find someone open and beat to death about it.
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
5:10 pm
14 GT, I’m not sure what you are or aren’t seeing, but in most, if not all, of the option plays, TW spins 270* from center to run the option.
You say yourself, “&1 step left or right & spin 180^”. So just think about it, 1 step left or right = 90* + “spin 180*”= 270*. Not sure if you’re a GT grad, but if you are maybe that’ll make more sense.
You definitley have some knowledge of the veer, my knowledge doesn’t go back to the 60’s as I wasn’t around then, but to the late 70’s and 80’s and we were definitley using this design then. Maybe the mis-direction spin wasn’t put in until later, IDK. You’re coach sounds like he had some good ideas.
Jacket Detective
September 26th, 2012
5:10 pm
“beat him to death” I meant.
Jacket Detective
September 26th, 2012
5:12 pm
I got a defense for Barnes too.
Maybe he did not come here to play nose tackle and be doubled every play.
Jacket Detective
September 26th, 2012
5:14 pm
I’ve got to go.
U can resume trashing the team, those of u into that.
I’m into trashing the folks making the big money who run the show.
I guess that makes me a socialist.
Delbert D.
September 26th, 2012
5:22 pm
In the base 3-4 defense as run by Tech, sacks by the NT and DEs are not that common. The prototypically very big and very strong NT (Barnes at 350 for Tech) and the big (prototypically 290-300 lb) DEs have primary responsibilities to take on their block *and* cover the gaps to each side of them. Pass rush is pretty much all about the linebackers, and CB/ safety in a blitz. Having said that, those 3 D-linemen must be able to hold ground and should generate a push into the backfield. They have to keep blockers off the primary playmakers, the inside linebackers.
A base 4-3 defense is completely different. The 300-lb DTs are expected to get penetration, and the 250 to 275-lb DEs are the primary pass rushers. The middle LB is expected to provide strong run support on the inside. In variations, you will see LB and safety blitzes and occasionally a DE dropping into coverage.
This is of course a simplification of pretty complex stuff.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
5:22 pm
Burdell….I watched 1/3 of the video link you posted….In none of those plays did Tevin do what I saw Sat….Read my post before this one & read it carefully & get back to me….snap from center….1 step back….1 step to left or right….stop & spin 180^….go in the completely opposite way that he started from the center….no fake handoff….no handoff….just running towards the sideline eventually making a handoff, pitching or keeping….your video link showed nothing like what I am describing in as much detail as I can….I am not trying to stir up a disagreement or such….I know what I saw….it can’t be a designed play….Counting your link, I have watched about 2 dozen plays & none of them shows what I have tried to get across to y’all.
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
5:30 pm
14 GT, Ok, well maybe you’re not seeing what you say in a play in the UM game, but the pull from center and turning of the opposite direction the play is going and then continuing to turn, resulting in a 270* rotation, is exactly how the option is designed to run. I’m thinking you probably saw a busted play and TW was trying to compensate. I’ve seen this plenty of times when someone goes the wrong way or misses an assignment. BTW, I don’t think you’re trying to stir something up here like many try to do, we’re just having an insightful convo on how the QB moves in this offense.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 26th, 2012
5:35 pm
Since from the middle of the 3rd quarter on, TW started telegraphing his plays, what 1 4 GT saw may well been a busted play, or at least one in which TW couldn’t really make up his mind what to do
WnE
September 26th, 2012
5:37 pm
re:
2. Rather remarkably, A-back Orwin Smith said he didn’t receive any nasty posts on his Twitter or Facebook accounts after his safety in Saturday’s game. Kind of unfortunate that this is actually unusual, but so it is.
____________
I know others have mentioned this, but if Orwin were disciplined and followed the explicit instructions from his HC then he would have no need to check any of his Social Media outlets.
I thought the “elite academics” of GT filtered in only the most disciplined of FB Players that never make MENTAL MISTAKES on Game-Day?
If Orwin is so Elite and such a “playmaker”, why don’t we get him the ball more than 5-7 times per game?
Duke Johnson is T-Fr. at Miami but they can figure out a way to get the ball at least a dozen times per game.
I thought CPJ was an Offensive Genius, shouldn’t he find a way to get his best players the ball as much as possible?
DOC 51
September 26th, 2012
5:39 pm
I thought for a long time that it was awesome that CPJ had his offense in his head with no notes.Now I think that he can’t produce a more productive offense.He reminds me of a local HS coach who would stubbornly run all night into a 9-man front.The pass was open,but his team wasn’t prepared to execute it.It probably cost him multiple state titles.CPJ is leaving many big-time wins on the table because he is stubborn.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
5:46 pm
Could be Burdell, could be. Just didn’t look right to me from upper east stands 45 yd line. TW might have seen something from up close that we couldn’t see. It just made me wonder if he was confused or what. Re my hs school coach. I never thought about it much, but I guess he was kinds innovative with his offense. I know that we had 4 first team backs (QB, LHB, RHB. & FB) with over 1000yds rushing & 2 with over 2000 yds rushing LHB & QB (also had over 2000 yds passing). 9 senior offensive starters got scholarships & the other 2 were juniors. Harry Mehre with the Atl Journal called us the #1 HS team in the nation-b/4 there was one. I pulled mop up duty as a soph.
WnE
September 26th, 2012
5:46 pm
re:
CT_Jacket
September 26th, 2012
3:52 pm
It would have been nice if we had gotten Tuitt. He has 6 sacks for ND this year. However, Tuitt plays in a 4-3 defense.
I’m no football expert, but typically, the LBs get most of the sacks in the 3-4, so I don’t think the comparison from Morgan to TJ and IC is quite fair. Also, Morgan was a very good 4-3 DE, which is why he was drafted in the first round. But to your point, TJ is in the most important position on the defense, and, while he has worked hard to improve his strength and conditioning, he isn’t getting it done.
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I think ND runs a 3-4 and Tuitt plays DE and at 6-6 and 295+ to 300lbs. he is looking like a can’t miss first rounder as soon as he’s eligible (after his Jr. yr.).
Too bad CPJ could close the deal on Tuitt, but then again according to the CPJ apologists any & all Recruits that spurn CPJ for a better program are really “just scared of GT’s Elite Academics”.
Delbert D.
September 26th, 2012
5:48 pm
If you watch the team warmups at the stadium, you will see that the QBs turn to their left while dropping back to pass. Last year, anyway. I haven’t been able to attend a game this year.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
5:48 pm
SS’s statement makes good sense. I only saw Tev do that once or twice or thrice.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
5:53 pm
Didn’t Tuitt’s Mom want him to go to Tech. If that had been my Momma, she’d got me by the ear, twisted & marched me into CPJ’s office & said in that brook no nonsense way she had, “Sign right there Sonny!” And that would have been that.
G.P. Burdell
September 26th, 2012
5:55 pm
Sounds like confusion over busted plays 14 GT, I’m glad we worked that one out. : )
Teddy Roosevelt
September 26th, 2012
5:59 pm
I think he wanted to go to Tech, but she was the one who got him to switch back to ND at the last minute. Oh well, tis the way recruiting goes sometimes….
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
5:59 pm
I still disagree. I understand we are only four games into the season. I also understand the likelihood of Miami AND VT both losing three or more conference games, and we would have to win out. Not happening. Give me a crappy year this year and a good year next year, and I’ll be thrilled. Heck, I’m even ok with letting Tevin play til he loses another conference game, but that is going to happen soon, and then the season really is over. I just don’t see the point in not doing everything we can to have a good season eventually.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
6:14 pm
Me too…just seemed like we weren’t communicating.
1 4 GT
September 26th, 2012
6:16 pm
SS is a pretty good mediator!!
MaconGTFan
September 26th, 2012
6:18 pm
@Teddy and 14 GT According to the recruiting blogs on here, Tuitt wanted to go to Tech, but his momma was quoted as saying she wouldn’t sign the LOI. She said that the only LOI that she would sign was Norte Dames. She also went on to say how great of an academic school ND is and how GT in no way could match it.
Delbert D.
September 26th, 2012
6:20 pm
Tuitt plays in a 3-4 at Notre Dame. The DC, Bob Diaco learned under Groh at UVA. Google “Bob Diaco 3-4″ to get a pretty good description of the 2-gap 3-4.
DOC 51
September 26th, 2012
6:22 pm
S.DAYS is being used as a decoy basically.What a waste of talent.GT should be able to get him and BOSTIC the ball in open space.One big play could have put MIAMI away.
WnE
September 26th, 2012
6:37 pm
re:
GTPhenom
September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm
Headley, you mean the management program that is considered one of the best in the nation and is best in the state? The management program, that I can tell you from personal friends of mine I know who are in the program have to do almost as much work as engineering majors? You mean that management program? Don’t twist reality. GT Management is a challenging and top flight program in the nation.
________________
Please STOP with the Urban Myths of how hard the Academics are for GT FB players.
No one was mentioning the Academics when GT surged ahead of Miami with 36 straight point. so WHY play the Academics Card after you get your @$$ handed to you?
The TRUTH about the Academics for GT FB players is this:
Most of our players major in BS in BUSINESS ADMIN:
The math Reqs. are SURVEY of Calculus that is not accepted for credit by the Engineering Majors & Science Majors, and Finite Math which is also NOT accepted for Credit by the Engr. & Science Majors.
If it is NOT accepted for Credit by Engineering Majors & Science Majors then is it really “Calculus”?
The Science Requirement that our FB use is NOT CHEMISTRY, BIOLOGY or PHYSICS, instead, our FB players fulfill their Science Requirement by taking EARTH & ATMOSPHERIC SCIENCE( i.e. Earth Science).
Basically the Business Admin Program at GT is very much in line with the typical Business Admin Program at most large State, Flagship-type Universities.
Gone are the days where our players Major in Industrial Mgmt. and take the same Calculus as Engineering majors and then take the same Biology or Chemistry as Engineering Majors, those days ended after Curry stopped coaching at GT, over 20 years ago.
Here’s the PROOF:
http://scheller.gatech.edu/programs/under/files/bsba_credit_sheet.pdf
So please stop playing the Academics Card GTPhenom!
OkieDawg
September 26th, 2012
6:56 pm
It looks like the GT fan base has returned to their normal form. Not as much negativism and calling for the coaches to be fired. Good job Techies. A couple of days away from an OT loss heals some of the sting.
I love to hate GT in a good old fashioned way. But, it is hard to feel the hate when the Tech base is so negative and saying they will lose every game. I actually feel sorry for the players and something is lost in the series. So come on Tech…get some quality wins and let’s get back to some good old fashioned hate. I’m pulling for you guys…until the Saturday after Thanksgiving that is.
Delbert D.
September 26th, 2012
7:03 pm
You know how it is, Okiedog. The Georgia fringe fan base is 2 Murray interceptions and possibly a hair’s breadth escape against (UT, UF, SC, etc) away from Fanarmageddon.
The Tower
September 26th, 2012
7:03 pm
Since we don’t play a quality opponent GT should win. When we get back to good teams it will be the same old same old. Crappy D and can’t convert critical 3rd or 4th down plays!
GT Man
September 26th, 2012
7:40 pm
ad better get to play or else we might lose him to transfering
GT Man
September 26th, 2012
7:41 pm
Vad better get to play or we may lose him to transfering.
MarkRichtHasGirlHips
September 26th, 2012
8:20 pm
No drug violations or arrests this week. Woof!
Gt82
September 26th, 2012
8:31 pm
I’ll repeat this over and over on these blogs……… It’s the defense stupid. Tech can be 3-0 by simply stopping decent opponents from scoring on last minute drives. I’ll also suggest that we do not have enough stud defensive players to consistently win. I really believe our offensive scheme will prevent us from recruiting the stub defensive players. The stud defensive player will not develop practicing against our offense.
JustinSyder
September 26th, 2012
8:42 pm
Why would Vad transfer when he’s most likely gonna start the next 3 years?
BLT
September 26th, 2012
10:01 pm
We are doomed! Headley and Wrexie said so! It must be true, how else can you explain it?
Wait…they are both worthless trolls. Go to the dog blog. Towers is already predicting an MNC. Against Bama or anyone else…including extra-terrestrials! They are not just world beaters (and wife beaters) but also Universe beaters! Go dogsters! GATETA!
OldSchoolTechFanatic
September 26th, 2012
10:04 pm
Yellow Jackets !!! I’m ready to see Vad Play a whole game !!! I know CPJ aint but I am !!! I heard Bill Curry will be available next year. LOL
billybuzz
September 26th, 2012
10:21 pm
CPJ might find a “gamer” at QB if he would play Vad Lee some more. We need someone that can make plays in crunch time. Tevin has not shown that capability.
Trials challenging Tech’s Louis Young | Georgia Tech
September 26th, 2012
10:33 pm
[...] Lee, Snoddy angling for playing time [...]
North Ave Killer Beez
September 26th, 2012
11:55 pm
After watching the UGA game last year I told my UGA friends I would not watch if TW started for GT this year. ” Of course I lied” But I saw exactly what I expected to this point. I’m not sure how a recruit like VAD can understand why he has to sit and watch TW, but I’m sure he will look great against MTSU. If Vad is not ready to play what do you call Tevin, what a joke.
I'll take a 40 point per game "joke"...
September 27th, 2012
7:33 am
…every day of the week and twice on Saturday…
unajacket
September 27th, 2012
1:08 pm
Can Vad play defense? Then put him in!
Tech special teams not great | Georgia Tech
September 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
[...] Lee, Snoddy angling for playing time [...]
billyBobjacket
September 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
I guess the reason we all want to see Vad play is that deep down we have been hoping that he is our salvation. We have been sold on him being the “next great thing”, but the longer he sits on the sideline the more the terrible thought starts to creep in that maybe he is not “all that”. This season is toast, lets work on next year. I see lots of other true and redshirt freshmen getting starts at QB at more successful programs than ours, and it seems to pay off down the road.
Jacket in LA
September 27th, 2012
3:44 pm
This offense has two forms of counters. I was at GSU from 2001-2004 and we ran this in FL while I was in HS. The first is the A-back motion. Most of the time the defense will slide with the motion to declaring that the strong side of the field. To prevent this shift and maintain blocking angles you have “twirl” meaning running the play into the A-back motion. This keeps the defense from shifting.
The second way to do this is with the QB, the LBs and DBs will key which way he opens up. So if he opens up Right they are all running down hill to that side for run support. Now he opens up Right and then spins to reserve his field and head Left. If the LBs and DBs took two steps towards the RIght (their left) they are setting up blocking angles and taking themselves out of the play. It forces the defense to basically sit their and giving an advantage to A-backs and linemen working up the levels to their blocking assigments. It only looks stupid when a blitz by chance blows it up or a missed assignment… but at that point any play on offense looks stupid no matter what you are running…
North Ave Killer Beez
September 27th, 2012
4:41 pm
It does not even have to be VAD, it could be DAY’S, hell even Desmond Smith from Monroe is twice the athlete TW will ever be. So I guess take your “joke” and the joke of a season we are having with a coke and a smile.
Tech seeks turnaround vs. MTSU | Georgia Tech
September 28th, 2012
4:02 pm
[...] Lee, Snoddy angling for playing time [...]