Notes: Johnson calls loss ‘my fault’
1. Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson held two fingers inches apart.
“We’re about this close to being 4-0 and everybody ranting and raving,” Johnson said Monday. He then spread his arms wide. “But we’re also about this close because we haven’t done the little things to make it happen.”
Following the Yellow Jackets’ practice, Johnson shared his disappointment in his team’s performance in its 42-36 overtime loss to Miami on Saturday and accepted responsibility for the loss. Tech plays Middle Tennessee State Saturday.
“It’s like I told the team [Monday],” he said. “You get beat like that, it’s my fault. I’m ultimately responsible.”
After playing fairly well in the first three games, Johnson said he thought the defense’s giving up 609 yards to Miami was “an aberration” and called the fourth-quarter play more of a concern than any specific defensive shortcomings such as the pass rush or secondary play.
“And I’m also concerned that we didn’t score any points in the fourth quarter,” he said.
Addressing the possibility of fatigue playing a role in the team’s fourth-quarter failures in losses to Utah in the Sun Bowl and this season to Virginia Tech and Miami, Johnson brought up third downs as a contributing factor.
Saturday, Miami converted 11 of 16 third downs. In the second half, the Hurricanes were 8-for-11 overall and 6-for-7 when they needed seven yards or more. Last season, Tech was 83rd in the country in defensive third-down efficiency at 42.4 percent.
“If you can’t stop ’em on third down, your [butt] is going to be on the field for a lot longer,” he said.
As might be expected, the loss did not sit well with Johnson. After the game, he returned home and “replayed the game in my head 40 times” before falling asleep at 4:45 a.m. and getting up 30 minutes later to come to the office.
“You just want to punch somebody or go hang yourself or something,” he said.
2. Punter Sean Poole is out after suffering an injury making a tackle Saturday. Poole was in a sling with ice on his shoulder/collarbone area after the hit. He was replaced by Ryan Rodwell, a true freshman who was the first punter in Johnson’s tenure to come to Tech on scholarship . Rodwell became the third true freshman to play this season, following wide receiver Anthony Autry and defensive lineman Adam Gotsis.
Johnson said he expected cornerback Louis Young, who left the game with an upper-body injury, and guard Will Jackson, who didn’t finish the game after injuring his leg, to play Saturday. Johnson said that safety Fred Holton (foot) ran Monday and is improving, but he wasn’t sure about his availability for Saturday.
3. Wide receiver Jeremy Moore has been reinstated to the team after leaving for personal reasons last Tuesday. Johnson said Moore came to him Thursday and told him that he had made a mistake in leaving and wanted to come back. Johnson left it up to the team’s seniors, who accepted him. Moore practiced Thursday but did not dress for the game. He apologized to the team Monday.
“Young guys, they do rash things sometimes,” Johnson said.
4. Johnson said that there is not a “hard-and-fast rule” regarding the number of audibles that the quarterback can make at the line of scrimmage. Following the game Sunday, quarterback Tevin Washington said he is coached to only make one “check” at the line, which helped lead to a 4th-and-1 play in overtime resulting in no gain. Johnson accepted responsibility, saying that Washington may have misinterpreted being told to not get in “a checking contest.”
5. Defensive end Izaan Cross will wear the No. 40 jersey Saturday in honor of former linebacker and captain Julian Burnett, who suffered a career-ending neck injury in the Sun Bowl. Different seniors have worn it each game. … Tech will play its Oct. 6 game at Clemson at 3:30 p.m. The game will be televised on either ABC, ESPN or ESPN2. Tech’s home game Saturday against Middle Tennessee State will be a noon kickoff and be televised on regional sports networks, including Fox Sports South in the Atlanta market.
In case you missed it…
The meaning of Tech giving up 609 yards
After Miami loss, Tech tries to regroup
Mark Bradley: Johnson’s approach hurting Tech
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Spyro
September 24th, 2012
9:15 pm
Glad to see CPJ take the blame here. Yeah, the offense should have been enough, but at the end of the day, the team was just outplayed; that comes down to the head guy.
wes
September 24th, 2012
9:34 pm
Was it also his fault our guy takes a safety on a standard kickoff play?
Everyone on the stupid ajc comment sections have lost their minds over 2 OVERTIME losses that we should have won during regulation.
AlabamaRamblinwreck
September 24th, 2012
9:35 pm
Well, I could see how hard PJ took this loss in the Wes interview that was removed from you tube almost as soon as it was posted.
Ultimately, although it was not his fault it came down to it, the decisions that TW made in the 2 OT’s this year tell me what I already believed: He is not the man. I hope that Vad is, and if he is, he will become the man soon. I like TW. He is a great representative for the Institute, but that doesn’t mean he is the right guy to lead this team.
OkieDawg
September 24th, 2012
9:35 pm
CPJ: “You just want to punch somebody”.
Whoa there big boy…I think you need to just go to a fish fry and forget the threats of physical abuse. Or go to Walmart and hang out with some of the less fortunate. I’m on your side, 2 losses in OT, but you’re starting to make me look silly.
Coach
September 24th, 2012
9:36 pm
It takes a lot of class to place the blame on your own shoulders. This one would have been easy to put on some of these young guys, but he did not do that. CPS’s straight talk draws a lot of comments, but I love the guy for being honest with us. We can give up on them, but these young men still have to go out and play a game Saturday. The coach can make or break a team in this situation – I would rather be playing for CPJ than most of the other guys around.
As for the other stuff, let’s quit piling on and pull for the Jackets!
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
9:37 pm
Yeesh. A brutal loss Saturday and 30 minutes of sleep that night? I’m sure he’s been a real peach to be around the past couple days.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 24th, 2012
9:37 pm
So much for him throwing players under the bus. I like that he took responsibility for the loss, as any coach should. I do wish, however, that he would address the “sitting on the lead” mentality that he SEEMS to have developed recently. I like the killer instinct he had in 2008 and 2009
Ramblin Man
September 24th, 2012
9:38 pm
CAG shares some of the blame as well. It was painfully obvious that the defense was ill prepared for the no huddle.
macrotech
September 24th, 2012
9:38 pm
I look forward to seeing our team’s response to this loss….I still believe in this team and won’t be surprised if we respond with a ten win season. GO TECH!!!
Supersize that order, mutt
September 24th, 2012
9:38 pm
LOL @ George Stein
Jacket Faithful
September 24th, 2012
9:39 pm
Why did we abandon the Pistol Formation in the second half? I still can’t figure this out. It seemed to really spread out the defense and we had some huge running lanes on opposite sides of the field and in the middle.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 24th, 2012
9:41 pm
@ Jacket Faithful……I think that’s the question we would all like to hear an answer to. It seems to be part of that “sitting on the lead” mentality that I mentioned
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
9:44 pm
I think he has abandoned the aggressive attitude, too, Supersize. I miss the guy who wanted to stomp on your throat.
Clearly I don’t know him personally (outside of a handful of pleasant conversations at alumni events), but he looks exhausted compared to 2008. It looks as though he just can’t get through to the players, and I think it’s because he rides them so hard. Sometimes guys respond to different stuff, and I wonder who’s playing good cop to Johnson’s bad cop.
Ramblin Man
September 24th, 2012
9:44 pm
SSuper I completely agree. Play the style that got the lead. It was like watching the sun bowl all over again. Good thing it’s Middle Tenn. then a bye week. Lots of things to work on. Would like to see Vad get the whole second half.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 24th, 2012
9:45 pm
@ Ramblin Man, the bye week is not until AFTER Clemson
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
9:47 pm
I appreciate the coach’s response–
Give the guys credit when they win and take the blame when they lose.
36 points is surely enough to beat almost anybody. Offense is not the problem—
Poor tackling on D I think is the biggest issue, next the scheme on third and long has to change based on what we just read. Probably got to take chances with press coverage or certainly tighten up the cushion on the other guys receivers.
CPJ in AJC--"it's my fault . . ."
September 24th, 2012
9:47 pm
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Mike Bell 790
September 24th, 2012
9:49 pm
FIRST!!!
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
9:50 pm
Note to CPJ:
Playing timid loses games. Your fans will respect you if you play like you are trying to “punch your opponent in the mouth” every play.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
9:51 pm
Poor tackling compounds the problem. It cost us the game at VT, and now it has cost us another. However, I think the broader issue continues to be the complete lack of a pass rush. I can only recall one time (Jemea Thomas, not surprisingly) where we hit their QB in the pocket.
Ramblin Man
September 24th, 2012
9:51 pm
Clemson should have been listed sorry. Still drinking trying to forget.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
9:52 pm
By the way, our pass rush is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Seattle’s pass rush. Wow.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
9:53 pm
He talks about all the 3rd downs Miami converted. How about the offense getting four 1st downs in the last 25 minutes of the game? Offense couldn’t get a 1st down when we needed it (i.e., right before we punted to them). TW makes another game-crushing mistake in OT.
Time for Vad.
mp
September 24th, 2012
9:54 pm
Play Vad, period. The future is now. This is no knock on Tevin. The kid’s given his all. But, why continue to run out a 5th year senior who’s reached his ceiling when we have our future sitting on the sidelines waiting to get meaningful snaps and can most likely lead us to the same record? We’re not going to be any worse off on offense, in my opinion. This could be the catalyst for something special. We won’t know unless Coach allows it to happen.
Ramblin Man
September 24th, 2012
9:55 pm
GGeorge he was flushed out a few times in the second quarter. I don’t know if it was Miami adjustments or what but there was none in the fourth and end of third.
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
9:56 pm
I wonder how good Oregon would be this year if, when they got a 2 touchdown lead they immediately started playing conservative offense (versus continuing to run up huge scores?)
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
9:57 pm
So Tevin said he wasn’t allowed to “re-check” a play back to the original play. CPJ basically says he can. I’m going with CPJ on this one; TW blows it again.
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
9:59 pm
@mp,
I think the idea is to play Tevin because he is a senior and he is a really nice kid. Then next year can be Vad’s year to spend a year learning the offense. Then the following year 2014, Vad will be well versed in this offense to do well…
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
9:59 pm
Maybe, Rambling Man. I freely admit that I may have selective memory on this one.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:00 pm
Sorry, how did we get conservative? Cause we ran the ball (which is what we do)? We got conservative because we didn’t let TW throw the ball (which he can’t)? FYI, he did throw it on 3rd and 4 (an incompletion of course), which led to the punt, which let to the TD, which let to….well you know.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:01 pm
North Ave: if we are going to let Vad “learn the offense” next year instead of this year, maybe CPJ should be fired.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
10:02 pm
Guys, all this talk about offense and play calling and sitting on the lead—
The “game manager” TW put up 36 points! no 10 or 14! We are talking play calling etc ignores the fact that the D cant get off the field!
Goose Godsey
September 24th, 2012
10:04 pm
CPJ is the real deal. What a difference between CPJ’s response and Lane Kiffin’s response to a heartbreaking loss…..
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
10:04 pm
GT Joe:
My point exactly! I have read so many threads about how Tevin is such a nice kid, blah, blah, blah… The season is a bust. It stinks, but is true. Let’s get something out of this season. Give the fans something to cheer for – the development of Vad Lee. Let him play. Fans will be more forgiving of losses, if Vad is playing and being primed for an incredible future at GT!!
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:05 pm
fuzzy: If a team scores 36 points in 4 minutes, and the other team has the ball for 56 minutes, then no, 36 points is probably not enough.
TW got four 1st downs in the last 25 minutes of the game. 1 was due to penalty. Can’t win a game that way.
Not to mention the biggest mistake of the game, the audible on 4th down in OT, which rivals only the INT at VT in OT in stupidity.
Ramblin Man
September 24th, 2012
10:06 pm
I was hitting the rum pretty hard after the safety and could be wrong myself.
@North if we have to wait till 2014 then things will be pretty bad for CPJ. Unless Vad is having real issues then he needs to start seeing meaningful playing time this year.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
10:08 pm
What happened to Green Bay? They hitting the sauce before the game?
Glad to see CPJ took responsibility for the loss. That’s about right.
Now that the vitriol has died down: maybe Paul tried to give his defense a vote of confidence at the end. Let’s face it, you’re not going to win a championship without an accomplished D, and they won’t be accomplished if they…don’t accomplish anything.
It didn’t work. Hopefully this’ll be the right kind of humble pie. Personally, I’m not ready to write off this team or this coach.
Still flying in for MTSU. Who wants some ribs?
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
10:10 pm
GT Joe, I understand the frustration, but 36 points is 36 points period. Why is there all this talk about the QB who doesnt play DEFENSE? The scheme on D needs to change based on third down conversion rates and the tackling STINKS, especially after the catch.
Dogkicker
September 24th, 2012
10:10 pm
the one time I want PJ to go for it on 4th down (4th an inches @ mid field with 2:00 left in the 4th qt) we punt the ball back to the jailbirds,and we ha not even slowed them down. one more first down an we win the game. Oh and by the way the saftey cost us 9 points!!!! Players got to play, Coaches got to coach
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:11 pm
Vad is faster. Vad is more of a running threat. Vad is clearly more of a passing threat. The only possible reason he isn’t playing MUST be because he doesn’t know the option plays as well as TW. If that is the case, CPJ should dumb it down just a little so Vad can get in the game. What happened to “getting the best athletes on the field”?
The fact that Days isn’t playing much at A-back and Vad isn’t playing at QB tells me that CPJ is more concerned about executing his plays perfectly vs. letting some athletes make some plays.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:12 pm
Gonna go to Fat Matt’s, Hayseed?
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:13 pm
Fuzzy: 36 points means nothing. When the game was on the line, and we needed the QB to make a play, he couldn’t.
I could easily say, “the defense only gave up 20 at VT, that should be enough to win”. But it wasn’t. Because when the game was on the line and we needed the QB to make a play, he couldn’t.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:14 pm
Fuzzy: the QB DOES play defense when he gets some first downs. ever heard of “the best defense is a good offense”? 25 minutes of ineptitude on offense will erase a 17 point led QUICK. As we saw.
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
10:15 pm
GT Joe:
You are reading my mind! Yes, CPJ spent years “perfecting” his triple option. He is so stubborn, he feels like he has to continue using it, even if there might be something else better for his “star” QB (Vad). The pistol works. Vad knows it like the back of his hand. Only problem, CPJ didn’t spend years creating it, so is not going to use it that often. Being a fan of GT right now is absolutely exhausting.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
10:18 pm
@George Stein
No- although I do love me some Fat Matt’s (you just sweat out that sauce).
Gonna marinate some in Coca Cola overnight- boil and simmer for about an hour on 5th street, round 10 AM.
Slather in BBQ and throw on the grill for about 10 minutes.
I’ll probably still have BBQ sauce on my face as I’m walking into Bobby Dodd.
You tailgate?
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:18 pm
Vad knows the pistol like the back of his hand? Where do you people come up with this nonsense?
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:20 pm
It’s funny how CPJ talks about how the D gave up so many 3rd down conversions. What about his offense? 6-13 on 3rd and 0-2 on 4th down puts a lot of pressure on your defense.
It’s almost like he is so married to Tevin that he defends him too much. Like, he says “maybe Tevin misunderstood the check down policy”. After the VT INT, he said “Tevin was trying to make a play”, but tevin said, “I was trying to throw it away”.
This is so Reggie Ball-ish.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:20 pm
Me too, Hayseed.
I tailgate most games, but I didn’t Saturday because I was concerned about the traffic from Music Midtown and other stuff downtown.
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
10:21 pm
Well George, try looking at his high school stats running the Pistol. I’m pretty sure he was Mr. Football in the state of North Carolina running the pistol.
George, what are your facts for disputing this?
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:21 pm
He specifically mentioned not scoring in the fourth quarter, Joe.
GT Fan
September 24th, 2012
10:22 pm
Saturday, Miami converted 11 of 16 third downs. In the second half, the Hurricanes were 8-for-11 overall and 6-for-7 when they needed seven yards or more.
——————————————-
There goes AG’s stellar 3rd down D again! The most disturbing part is the 6-for-7 when they needed SEVEN YARDS OR MORE!
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:22 pm
I’m not disputing any of those facts. I’m disputing the leap you took from that to knowing the pistol like the back of his hand.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:22 pm
George: Vad played almost exclusively out of pistol and shotgun in high school. How do you not know this? Wake up.
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
10:23 pm
George, I’d be willing to say without hesitation that Vad could run the Pistol Offense better than Tevin can run the triple option any day of the week!
DawgNole
September 24th, 2012
10:23 pm
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
9:59 pm
I think the idea is to play Tevin because he is a senior and he is a really nice kid. Then next year can be Vad’s year to spend a year learning the offense. Then the following year 2014, Vad will be well versed in this offense to do well…
____________________
You have a lot of patience.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:23 pm
But it’s the third year, GT Fan! We were told THAT’S when the defense would improve.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:24 pm
Do your have any facts to support that, NAR?
Stephen
September 24th, 2012
10:25 pm
Fire Paul Johnson!! 1-3 against UGA, 1-4 against VT, 1-4 against Miami, 0-4 in bowl games!! The time has come, Fire This Bum!!!
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:25 pm
You must’ve had a pleasant Saturday evening, DawgNole, which would make it the exact opposite or ours.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:26 pm
George: ever heard of youtube? check it out. cool videos. you might learn something about vad lee and the pistol there.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
10:26 pm
GT Joe, there are 3 phases to football and Defense and ST lost the UM game period.
I love Vad Lee and think he has the potential to be the best GT QB in 40 years base on size, speed, arm, kid moves like a CAT. I also agree CPJ is too stubborn.
I just cant figure out why this blog gives the D and ST a PASS and thinks the problem we all need to fix is scoring more than 36 points on an average at best UM team?
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:27 pm
George: do you think it’s a coincidence that the first year vad lee starts playing, CPJ brings out the pistol? are you seriously that much of a dolt?
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:27 pm
So I your mind, lining up Ina certain formation equals knowing an entire offense from that formation. My mind is blown.
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
10:28 pm
Yes, George. Here’s a clip of Vad running the Pistol Offense in high school. By the way, Vad took his team to win the North Carolina state football championship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q2k95TtTdk&feature=related
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:28 pm
Clearly you still have no interest in a rational discussion, Joe. Talk to yourself.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:28 pm
fuzzy: once again, a 17 point lead will evaporate against most any team if you can’t get first downs for 25 minutes of the game.
jocrazy
September 24th, 2012
10:28 pm
look guys my son is at tech because he is smart i luv the dawgs and respect tech but dont want no coach saying something about hanging himself he needs help
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:29 pm
Oh, we’ll if he took them the state title in high school, I can certainly see how that qualifies him to run an offense in college. I have no doubt he has a complete mastery of the offense.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:30 pm
George, i bring facts. you, on the other hand, call other people’s statements “garbage”. When the statements are factual, not opinion.
Yeah, that sounds rational.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
10:30 pm
CPJ’s like most of us- he’s loathe to go get into a situation that’s unknown.
Tevin is a *known* entity. In dire situations most folks, including the ones who love the second-string-QB, will stick with what they know.
After seeing some of Tevin’s TDs on Saturday, I would find it damn hard to put in Vad at that point.
Will Vad be the future of Tech? I certainly hope so.
But I don’t begrudge the amount of snaps Tevin has received so far.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:31 pm
LOL, now George, you are just arguing to argue, after your utter lack of knowledge of Vad’s skillset was exposed for all to see.
You crack me up.
North Avenue Rules
September 24th, 2012
10:32 pm
George. Just for fun can you answer me this? How is it that there are 4 or 5 teams in the NFL starting rookies at QB? Is it possible these guys are actually better than some seasoned QB’s that have been in the NFL for years?
YES, every so often it is possible to have a kid that is so talented to warrant early play time!
Rich Yunkus
September 24th, 2012
10:33 pm
It appears to me that one is arrogant to put all the blame on himself.
My point being;
Miami played well and deserves kudos for winning the game.
Why is it that the loser always blames himself for losing?
Would it not be more profound to congradulate the winning team
for a superb effort!
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
10:33 pm
GT Joe, not against a decent defense. If Vad had put up 36 points then I guess it would finally be the Defense who let us down?
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:34 pm
Yes Hayseed, it’s tough because just when you think Tevin lost his job, he gets Presbyterian on the schedule. Or, he leads a late TD to tie the game, then throws a boneheaded pick in OT. Or, he scores 3 TDs, then makes a stupid audible call in OT to lose another game. And just when more people call for TW to get benched, he gets MTSU on the schedule.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:34 pm
I don’t know yet, NAR. The league hasn’t had a chance to adjust yet. Cam looked all world a year ago, too, and crashed pretty hard later in the season.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:36 pm
By the way, NAR, I’m not saying Vad shouldn’t play. A competent argument can be made for playing him, but saying he knows the pistol like the back of his hand (your words) isn’t one of them.
Tech Fan Since 1950
September 24th, 2012
10:36 pm
We have a good dedicated head coach at Tech. He is a bit stubborn at times, but when you are willing to admit that you are in charge and responsible, that is a good startover. We woulda, shoulda, coulda won the VT and Miami games, but we didn’t. Time to move on and get as many of the rest of them as we can. I still think 2013 is the big year for Tech, but that is no excuse for 2012.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:37 pm
Fuzzy: if vad made a stupid audible that cost us the game, it would be Vad’s fault. If vad threw a pick in OT to lose the game, it would be Vad’s fault.
Just like, if Vad missed 3 free throws at the end of the basketball game to win, and if he did that two times in 4 games, it would be Vad’s fault, regardless of whether the defense gave up 99 or 129 or 199 points.
When the game is on the line, you expect a player to make a play. Or at least not make a mistake. And Tevin did both.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
10:39 pm
Gee- I wonder how many teams that are having disappointing seasons have fans saying “Let’s start the second string QB!”
You guys *do* realize the *defense* lost that game, right? Everyone who isn’t a Georgia Tech fan realizes this.
10per
September 24th, 2012
10:39 pm
I saw David Sims on the field a few times, but not carrying the ball. Anybody know why that was?
We really need a B-Back that is a threat, not just a distraction. Laskey has heart, but can’t fill that role just yet.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:40 pm
No, Hayseed, they don’t know that.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
10:40 pm
Whatever the problem, the backup QB is always the solution according to the fans—
Lets just outscore them, lot more fun to watch!
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:41 pm
Hayseed: “defense” lost the game? last time i checked, we had a chance to win until Tevin screwed up on 4th down.
Did the defense also lose the game in VT? I could argue that giving up only 20 points should be enough to win. Last time i checked, we had a chance to beat VT until… guess who…Tevin screwed up in OT.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:44 pm
George: your statement about Vad knowing the pistol being garbage, just shows your complete lack of knowledge of Vad. Apparently your attendance at all the home games doesn’t help your knowledge base.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
10:44 pm
Yeah, the D gave up 42 points. That’s more than 36
I was there. Our defensive backs looked more lost and confused than Tevin freaking Washington did.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
10:45 pm
Hayseed, bless you brother!
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:45 pm
fuzzy: if you think TW is the solution instead of Vad, have you learned ANYTHING over TW’s last 20 starts? I mean seriously.
Really?
September 24th, 2012
10:45 pm
paul (IMA) johnson ranting about punching someone again? Maybe he has been dipping into those steroids that trade school player was strung out on when he attacked those cops in Athens. The guy has some serious issues and it’s gone far beyond his giant ego. He sounds violent and very depressed. It’s obvious that all the texties take their cue from coach fish fry. They back up their smack talk just as well as cpj.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
10:46 pm
GT Joe.
You already troll the UGA blogs. Now you’re trolling the Tech blog.
Maybe you’re just a troll?
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:50 pm
Hayseed: lost and confused is what Tevin looked like after Miami faked him out, forced the audible, then went back to their original setup. It was like child’s play. Tevin was so lost and confused he took the snap, stepped back, and chose to run to a hole with no blocker and 2 defenders. LOL.
Try watching games on TV… much more insight (and more replays) than going to the game.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:51 pm
Yeah Hayseed. I’m a troll. Defending CPJ, defending the defense, and calling for Vad Lee.
Yeah, I went to UGA. dolt.
GIVE ME A BREAK
September 24th, 2012
10:52 pm
Tevin’s failure in OT was not letting the other players know what he was going to do. Sometimes it’s easier to get forgiveness than permission. ” GO JACKETS “
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
10:54 pm
No, you’re resorting to ad hominem. Not unlike a woman. Or a troll.
Keep watching those games on TV.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
10:55 pm
GT Joe, TW is a game manager who is being blamed by you and others because he’s not Josh Nesbitt. I would be calling for a change also if we werent putting up points. But to excuse ignore the poor tackling and lay this all on TW is just wrong. How many points does the kid have to score before you will admit that the bigger problem is D and ST?
Alabama wins championships with game managers at QB and a Stone you Cold Defense. Principles are the same for any school.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:56 pm
No, Tevin’s failure in OT was not having the mental capacity to go back to the original play call. My guess is that he just freaked out and ran.
I also think he freaked out and threw a jump ball into the end zone in OT at VT. He very well could have thought that it was 4th down and it was their last chance to win. It just doesn’t seem plausible that he was trying to throw it out of bounds and the ball went where it did.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 24th, 2012
10:56 pm
@ GT Joe……NO, I would not blame it on Vad if he had been in at QB and had done the same thing TW did. The blame goes on the defense, not on anybody on offense…..not TW, not Vad (had he played), not any one player on the O-line. The defense sucked and gave up a 17 point lead….PERIOD
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:56 pm
This Seattle defense is nuts.
GT ee
September 24th, 2012
10:57 pm
Would like to see the team put up 59 or 60 in each of the next few games. That might take some of the sting out of these 2 losses, build confidence and get reestablished in the division
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
10:59 pm
Fuzzy: I”m ignoring missed tackles? The missed tackles didn’t cost us the games, because even after the missed tackles, we had a chance to win. Until Tevin ended both games himself.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
11:00 pm
Amen SS, another voice of reason with Hayseed
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:01 pm
Supersize: we gave up a 17 point lead because our offense couldn’t get but 4 first downs in the last 25 minutes of the game.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:04 pm
Okay fuzzy, supersize, and hayseed, answer this for me:
How do any of you possibly expect us to be better than 7-5 this year? What, in the past 20 starts by TW, gives you the idea that he can do better than he has done? Which is sub .500 football against BCS conference teams?
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
This reminds me of the Jasper Sanks game argument– when all the uga folks hollerin about the “fumble” and ignoring the fact that they gave up 53 POINTS until reminded by Mark Bradley I think:)
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
Tevin against Miami: 20 rushes for 47 yards. 3-8 passing. yeah, he did his job, lol.
maybe you guys saw that game last year vs. UGA? 3-10 with 2 INTs? Yeah, he’’s the MAN for us.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:09 pm
Fuzzy: hate to break it to you, but the first 55 minutes of the football game just gets you to the final 5. Winners win games late. Losers don’t. And we’ve seen TW in these situations. Hell, his first game he threw a pick to end the game at VT, 2010. Bad from the start.
Ask any basketball coach: all they can hope for is a possession at the end of the game to win it. What happened in the 1st quarter matters very little.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:09 pm
Kam Chancellor with the pass interference.
Anyone remember him telling anyone who would listen at ACC media days that he had ‘figured out’ the triple option?
Then Sportscenter does a segment in prime time about how Tech put him on his rear early and often.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:10 pm
I wonder if Michael Jordan is most known for his 1st quarter performances, or 4th quarter?
Hint: you don’t win games in the 1st quarter.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
11:12 pm
It was a terrible call, Hayseed, but I definitely recall his comment.
Delbert D.
September 24th, 2012
11:15 pm
The folks on that Bradley blog were most unreceptive.
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
11:16 pm
Ha! That sounds about right, Delbert.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
11:16 pm
GT Joe, I dont expect him to be much better. I expect our D and ST to be better and I hope CPJ and CAG can scheme a little better. I expect to see Vad hopefully a lot this weekend and hopefully help us the rest of the way. I would like to see that “situational package” CPJ talked about earlier.
Who of us thought TW would come back after bad games against UVA and UM last year and put 31 on Clemson??? Better still who thought we could hold them to 17???
Dont think Vad is ready to start in Death Valley but I do hope to see a lot of him in Athens.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:17 pm
You’re right, it was a BS call.
But a little schadenfreude on a hokie never hurts.
Delbert D.
September 24th, 2012
11:17 pm
Just thought I’d get that in here. Time to go on upstairs now.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:21 pm
Funny, everyone seems to know for a fact that Vad “isn’t ready”, “doesn’t know the offense”, “can’t be thrown in the fire yet”, etc. etc. etc.
Well, was Tevin ready to be thrown in the fire at VT in 2010? Nobody will ever know if a guy is ready until he gets the start.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:22 pm
GTJoe.
No one’s saying Tevin is Tommy Frazier II.
I’m just saying I understand the amount of snaps he’s gotten to this point.
If you’d read my posts instead of emotionally reacting to them, you’d understand that.
Lets’ recap:
36 points is far and above the national average (fact).
If the defense makes ONE stop we win (a far more straightforward fact than any silly interpolation of the offense you have).
GTJoe resorts to name calling and emotional retorts on both the UGA *and* the Tech blog. Hence, he is a troll (irrevocably true. Google backs me up.)
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:23 pm
Delbert, you been to any games this year?
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:25 pm
Hayseed: there is NOTHING more straightforward than “if Tevin throws an INT in OT, we lose”.
there is NOTHING more straightforward than “if Tevin blows an audible and gets stopped on 4th down in OT, we lose”.
How much more responsible can one be for a loss (or two)?
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:26 pm
Yeah there is.
If the defense makes *one* stop, Tevin’s not even in that situation.
They know it. You know it.
SLCtechfan
September 24th, 2012
11:26 pm
Half you idiots are living in a fairy tale. The damn offense isn’t the problem it the defense. When you put up 400 yards of offense and over 35 points what more do you want? I’ve coached for several years and have studied under Paul Johnson and believe me, the mans a genius. His offense always produces and controls the clock. What do you want the spread? Pro-set? Air-raid? Please. Take a look at 90% of these teams and tell me how they do. Ya Alabama runs a pro offense, when you get those caliber of skill positions and offensive lineman let me know.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:27 pm
Hayseed: GT defense only gave up 17 to VT in regulation; by your logic, this loss was solely on the OFFENSE because 17 is below the national average. Right?
LOL, do you see how lame that argument is now?
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
11:28 pm
Hayseed, I still love watching Tommy Frazier run the option on Youtube. I think Vad has the potential to be really good.
Seems like Neb had a pretty good D as well.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:29 pm
Hayseed: If the defense makes the stop, Tevin wouldn’t be in that situation? Well, if the offense scored more points, the defense wouldn’t have been in THAT position?
See how lame your argument is NOW?
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:32 pm
No, I don’t see how lame that logic is.
The quickest route to the win in *both* situations was that the D made the stop. That’s sound logic by any standard.
You need to learn how to talk to people, son. I’m loathe to see any supposed ’supporter’ of the Institute come off like a common internet troll.
Give the ‘lame’ words a rest.
fuzzybee78
September 24th, 2012
11:35 pm
Lets tune up for Clemson this weekend and see if we still have Clemson’s number like UM has ours:)
No matter who plays QB—
GO JACKETS!!!!
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:36 pm
With Michigan down by two points with 20 seconds to go, Chris Webber calls a timeout at the end of the national championship game. One problem, his team had no timeouts. Loss of possession, no chance to win, game over. Because of a bonehead decision.
Nobody would ever blame the Michigan DEFENSE for letting UNC score more points up to that point. ALL the blame went on Webber.
but I guess Hayseed, George and supersize would blame the Michigan defense for putting him in that position. LOL. funny.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:38 pm
fuzzybee78
Tommy Frazier was a bad arse.
Maybe Vad will be Tommy Frazier. Just not this season, regardless.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:39 pm
You know what, while we’re at it, I would like to go back and blame bobby dodd for the losses to Miami and VT. If not for him, we’d be in the SEC and not even had to play VT or Miami, and Tevin would never be on those situations where winners making winning plays and losers don’t. LOL.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:40 pm
GTJoe
Are you sure you’re a Tech fan?
Cause it sounds to me like you can’t tell the difference between football and basketball.
I have a 6 year old who can tell the difference.
You should go back to trolling the UGA blogs and making all Tech fans look like blithering idiots.
Actually, on second thought, don’t.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:45 pm
The defense of Tevin is really mindboggling.
3-10 with 2 INTs vs UGA. game ending INT at VT. Boneheaded audible against Miami essentially ending that game. 20 for 47 yards rushing. under .500 record vs. BCS Conference teams. WTF.
Hayseed Dixie
September 24th, 2012
11:47 pm
Uh oh-
The scab ref thing is about to reach fever pitch here.
They just blew the final call on the GB game.
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:47 pm
sorry hayseed, too much of a leap for you to understand?
GT Joe
September 24th, 2012
11:49 pm
doesn’t matter what the ref called on the field, he knew it would be reviewed anyways.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 24th, 2012
11:54 pm
@ GT Joe…..what you fail to (or refuse to) understand about what I have been saying to you since Saturday night is that I agree, that Vad is probably the better QB, and I WANT him to get a chance. What I object to is your blaming EVERYTHING on one person. Like I said earlier, if Vad had been in there at the end instead of Tevin, I still would not have blamed the loss on him. You blame two entire games on one person, regardless of who that might be. As far as I am concerned that is just plain stupid BS.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 24th, 2012
11:58 pm
I have never said that Tevin played a perfect game up until that point, nor have I ever said that Vad might have played as good as or even better a game. ALL I am saying is that for you to blame a loss on one player having one bad play that brought the game to an end is totally ignoring everything that led up to that one play, be it good things or bad things. A team wins or loses as a team, and seldom because of one individual player or one single play. It would be very easy for me to blame last year’s lost to VT on Attaochu’s punching the VT QB. That, indeed, seemed to be a turning point in the game. But that one incident did not lose the game. The TEAM lost the game
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
12:02 am
The Offense did more than enough to win the game. The D overcame a bad 1st qtr only to diappear from the 10 minute mark in the 3rd to OT.
Again, Miami was 8 for 11 on 3rd downs in the 2nd half, 6 for 7 when they needed 7 or more yards!
That’s a defensive letdown, plain & simple.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:03 am
SS: sometimes, it’s very possible that ONE person can lose a game for a whole team. And I’m not talking about someone just having a bad game. I’m talking about someone making a wrong decision in a critical play that immediately and conclusively ends a game.
Apparently it hurts your heart to blame Tevin, or maybe it’s against your religion to blame a human being for a loss, then so be it.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:04 am
The attaochu punch is nowhere near what Tevin did. The game did not end for us after the attaochu punch.
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
12:05 am
Anybody that thinks the GT defense will come back strong is dreaming.Defense is mainly about coaching, heart ,and intensity(especially when you only recruit 2 and 3 STAR players.Our team doesn’t have much of those ingredients.—CPJ usually talks about winning by one point.When your Defense and ST ARE EXCELLENT,then games are generally on ice by the fourth quarter.Any HC should want to win every game handily.Outscoring everybody is not the answer.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:06 am
@ GT Joe……IF Tevin had had a bad game all the way through, then yes, I would blame him, or blame Johnson for not making a change when it was obvious that he couldn’t cut it. But Tevin had a good game. In the 4th quarter even, I don’t blame Tevin for not getting first downs when we needed them. I actually blame Johnson for not telling Tevin to do what he had done all the way through that 36 point run. Johnson seemed to be willing to sit on the lead and take his chances, and because the defense couldn’t stop anything, it backfired on him. I don’t care if it was Tevin, or Vad, or Synjyn, or even Nesbitt (if he were still around), I would NOT blame the loss on one single play in OT.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:06 am
SS….joe just thinks that vad is the answer to all of gts problems and nobody but him thinks this is true. You arent going to change his mind. He just doesnt understand that there are more issues and people to blame other than tw. Rod sweeting, orwin smith, the entire d line, coaching, play calling etc etc. personally i dont think gr scores 36 straight with vad after beind down 19-0 having nothing to do with tw. Did he make a decision at the end of the game that was bad? Yes end of story.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:07 am
“offense did enough to win the game?” Let’s see. no points in OT. no points in the 4th. hell, no points since 10:06 left in the 3rd! 4 1st downs in the last 25 minutes. Come on.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:10 am
@ GT Joe…..so was Tevin the only offensive player on the field during that final 25 minutes plus OT? HELL NO, he wasn’t, but you want to blame everything on him. What about maybe the line didn’t block? The rb’s didn’t run with authority and dig their heels in? The coach didn’t call plays designed to do anything more than eat up time on the clock? Why is it that you blame EVERYTHING on Tevin?
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:10 am
sure silly. TW is definitely the answer. His record vs. BCS conference teams is awesome. under .500.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:13 am
SS: let’s see, every back averaged 5+ yards per carry EXCEPT tevin. He completed 3 passes. THREE. All game. Before the punt back to miami, an incomplete pass by… wait for it… TEVIN.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:15 am
Did every back average 5+ yards per carry during the last 25 minutes plus OT in the game??? HELL, NO !!!!
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:16 am
I just wonder, at what point would any of you EVER blame Tevin for anything? What exactly would have to happen? Because clearly, game ending INTs or incorrect audibles just isn’t enough to warrant any blame.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:17 am
Gt joe….im guessing we disnt have al groh during those games? That is your reason bro not tevin! If tw goes 0-10 and throws three ints he is going to start over vad. Your not going to convince anyone that tw is the problem. Nobody agrees with you and mean nobody
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:20 am
funny you ask, SS: last 25 minutes, tevin had 5 rushes for -5 yards, and 0/1 passing. Every other back averaged 4 or more, with Godhigh and Zenon averaging 5+.
But nah, Tevin did well enough to win, right? especially in the last 25 mins? LOL.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:22 am
If pur defense gave up less than 200 yards and tw accounted directly for more than 3 tos and gt had no one with 5 yards on a carry then id go with vad
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:22 am
“if tevin goes 0-10 with 3 ints he is going to start over Vad” – Silly Mutts
so wise. so smart. makes sense now! Tevin for Heisman!
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:23 am
What you STILL REFUSE TO SEE is that we are not saying that Vad would not have done a better job. We don’t know whether he would have or not, and you don’t either. But during the second quarter and first 10 minutes of the third quarter, regardless of how many yards HE gained, and regardless of how many passes HE completed, Tevin DIRECTED the offense in scoring those 36 consecutive points. You apparently are not even willing to give him credit for doing that. What happened after that, other than his bad decision in OT was certainly not entirely because of him. As I have said MANY TIMES ALREADY, I think most of the problem with the offense in the final 25 minutes of regulation was that Johnson was apparently content in sitting on the lead and not letting Tevin run the same kind of offense he had done up until that point. Remember, if you can, that the QB, no matter who he is, does NOT call ALL the plays that the offense lines up to run; he only does what the coach tells him to do., be it good or bad. It well could have been the very same thing with Vad in there, because I doubt that Johnson would have run the offense any differently at that point with Vad in there than he did with Tevin in there.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:24 am
GT Joe….NOBODY averaged 4+ yards in those last 25 minutes. If they had, then we would have had enough first downs to keep Miami’s offense off the field.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:25 am
SS: you can’t give TW credit for the 36 points and not blame him for the last 25 minutes and the OT.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:25 am
It was the coservative play calling. If not why was tw succesful for the 36 points?
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:27 am
Oh, I certainly can and do, Joe. TW didn’t design the plays that were run in those last 25 minutes…..Johnson did, just like he designed the plays that were run in that 36 point barrage. TW executed the plays that he was given, and he wasn’t given anything in the last 25 minutes that were designed to do anything other than eat up the clock.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:27 am
SS: look at the play by play. zenon and godhigh averaged 5+. Laskey was getting yards every carry. Tevin had negative yards on like 3 of 5 rushes, got sacked, and was 0 for 1.
Need any more stats?
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:30 am
Joe…..and who do you think told TW what to do during those 25 minutes? Surely you don’t think any QB in the country, no matter what the offensive scheme is, actually says, “well, I think I will run the pistol this time,” or “I think we’ll run the option this time.” If you really think that, then there’s nothing more anybody can say to you.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:30 am
Joe….yes you can because the coach called the plays and got coservative in his play calling. Tw didnt all of a sudden decide to quit playing offense. Pj tried to milk the clock with less risky plays. Otherwise he would have called deep pass plays on 1st down instead of 3 and 12 after straight running plays.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:31 am
I questioned why Laskey wasn’t being given the ball, but again, I don’t think that was TW’s decision…..It was Johnson’s
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:31 am
blaming play calling on the last 25 minute performance? how about 3rd down sack. 3rd down pass incomplete. 3rd and 2 in OT, TW gets 1 yard. 4th and 1, TW gets zero.
All of our TDs were run plays, and that’s what we did in the last 25 minutes.
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
12:32 am
GT doesn’t have one player(on either side of the ball) that is playing CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL.—–NOBODY!—The veterans make the same mistakes that they made as freshmen.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:33 am
SS: again, look at the play by play. Laskey got the ball more than half the plays in the last 25 minutes. What game were you watching?
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
12:34 am
Yes Joe, 400+ yards & 36 pts by the offense is more than enough to win the game. Especially considering that when the 36th pt was scored GT then had a 17 pt lead.
Defensive letdown.
IDK if you saw the OT, but even if TW gets the 1st and GT then scores a TD, but the Miami RB scored, untouched, on a 25 yd run. The D showed no signs of being able to stop Miami at this point so GT would’ve eventually lost.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:34 am
So why was TW able to run for a TD early, but not late? Do you think he suddenly lost the ability to do that? Do you think he quit trying??? Are you aware that Miami scored on 4 of their 5 possessions in the final 25 minutes? Was that Tevin’s fault too?
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:35 am
Okay, so Tevin was told what to do in the last 25 minutes, right SS? Told to throw an incompletion? Told to take a sack on 3rd down? Told to lose yardage on 3 of 5 carries? Told to audible out, and then told to run into the worst possible hole? LOL.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:36 am
If Laskey got the ball more than half the plays in the last 25 minutes, then why didn’t we get more than a couple of first downs? Was that Tevin’s fault that Laskey didn’t gain more yards???
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:37 am
Once again, SS, if Tevin can’t get us 1st downs, can’t win the field position game, he can shoulder some blame of giving up points to miami.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:37 am
Joe…..I sure hope your son, if you have one, never plays QB in a football game and has to listen to somebody like you blame him, and him alone for a loss. No, on second thought, I hope you do have a son in that position, so you will feel the sting of vitriolic criticism from fools like you.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:38 am
Again, SS, when we needed TW to make a play he did the following:
took a sack on 3rd down
incomplete on 3rd down
1 yard on 3rd and 2
0 yards on 4th and 1
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:39 am
Joe…..you just supported everything we have been saying all along…”he can shoulder some blame of giving up points to miami.” Yes, he CAN shoulder SOME of the blame, but you are placing ALL the blame on him. The rest of us are not.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:39 am
Ah, so now i see it. You are concerned about Tevin’s feelings, so you can’t blame him. How cute.
news flash. Kid is not a kid. he’s like 23 now. this isn’t peewee football.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:40 am
yea, he can shoulder SOME of the blame for giving up points to miami. He can also shoulder ALL of the blame for the stupid decision on the most important play of the game (against VT AND Miami)
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:41 am
And is it Tevin’s fault, and his alone, that he was sacked? I guess there was no line in front of him given the duty of protecting him or blocking for him. Is that right? I don’t remember now the pass play, so I don’t know if it was a poor pass, a risky gamble, or good defense by Miami.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:42 am
Im dOne with this from joe. He just doesnt understand. Next year he will be calling for the nackup when gts defense gives up 1000 yards to unc and vad lee or else scores 40 and gt loses 41-40. Sometimes someone else has to help! The coach, the line and the DEFENSE. 600 yards joe! 600 yards!
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:43 am
SS: point is, tevin makes no plays when we need it. Period. Ever.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:43 am
Joe…..I am not concerned with Tevin’s feelings. I am sure he is man enough to take criticism from jerks like you. I just hope if you have a son in that position, that he (AND YOU) will be man enough to do the same. I am done with you, and I am outta here for the night.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:43 am
600 yards because Tevin can’t keep the ball from Miami.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:44 am
@ Silly Mutts…..I am done with him too. If he is indeed a Tech fan, then I wish he would just go ahead and change his allegiance to some other school. We don’t need fans like that.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:46 am
SS: I hope, if you have a son, and he plays QB, that you will have a higher standard for him than you have for Tevin Washington.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
12:47 am
I would let my son set his own standards and hope he lived up to them, But whether he did or not, he would still be my son, and I would still love him, and I would defend him to the hilt against fools like you. Good night !!!!
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:49 am
I hope and pray that you would raise your son to have higher standards than to be like Tevin as a QB.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:50 am
Yeah joe tw gave up 600 yards too! He plays defense! Lol. Oh and pj thinks vad is better qb and purposely put tw in the game and told him to lose, let the defense not tackle, get a safety on a kickoff and be behind in the game by 19….oh and he told tw to purposely call indian on the coin toss too!
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
12:50 am
I would rather lose the rest of our games w/ VAD LEE PLAYING AGGRESSIVELY than with TW PLAYING SCARED.LET SNODDY split p/t @ B-BACK ,AND let S.DAYS SPLIT one A-BACK with BOSTIC.OS and GODHIGH CAN SPLIT OTHER A-BACK.IT’S TIME to find out who the real playmakers are.This season is over.Put these last 2 yrs. under the underachievement label.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:54 am
you know what, silly mutts: you have now convinced me that Tevin is a great QB. Forget Vad lee. Tevin is going to lead us to our greatest 6-6 season ever. His passing is amazing. His decision-making is perfection. His speed is unmatched. AND he’s a great dude.
I’m getting a TW jersey. And anyone criticizing TW is un-American, or a UGA fan, or a troll, because they really don’t want what’s best for GT.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
12:57 am
Im done with joe supersize…the only person he is convincing is himself. Al groh must be paying him some hefty dough to spot his nonsense over and over. Thing is i dont really like tw but to blame him on these losses and many others is just not reality. I do like vad but nothing will change until the defensive issues are solved!
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
12:57 am
This one statement pretty much sums it up
“Johnson said he thought the defense’s giving up 609 yards to Miami was “an aberration” and called the fourth-quarter play more of a concern than any specific defensive shortcomings such as the pass rush or secondary play.”
Definition of aberration:4. mental irregularity or disorder, especially of a minor or temporary nature; lapse from a sound mental state.
Wtf? Are you telling me that you are not really concerned with the defensive play the whole game in comparison to One QTR> of play by the offense? That it was just a minor miscue for the defense. Oh it was just a shortcoming that we didn’t have a pass rush or that the secondary got stomped upon all day. My Bad I didn’t know it was just a mistake. WAKE UP PEOPLE
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:58 am
silly mutts: what?!?! you don’t really like TW? What are you, satanic?
Nah, a QB can’t change anything. Not even Cam Newton at Auburn…
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
1:07 am
Can’t blame the refs tonight for the Packers losing. They shouldn’t have been in that position in the first place, right? I mean, if the offense could have scored more points, this would have never happened.
so I’m blaming the packers offense for this loss. LOL.
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
1:17 am
Forget about the Defense ” I’m concerned we didn’t score any points in the 4th qtr.”
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
1:23 am
@ted….this is why the defense sucks and why gt loses games! He doesnt care about defense! Nail in the coffin for pj i think!
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
1:26 am
Great concept duh hey if we score more points rhen we won’t need a defense. Hey yah and we could be like the first team to not have a defensive unit, Hey Hey boo boo looks like we found us a pic a noca basket
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
1:28 am
Think so Silly Mutts
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
1:56 am
See Gt Joe gets it….If we score more points than the other team then everythings cool.
Silly Mutts
September 25th, 2012
2:09 am
Nah everyone loves pj!!! Gt cant recruit so he givea gt the only chance to win! Therefore 7 -5 and losing to good teams and every bowl game doesnt matter. Gt should even be happy to be in a bowl game. Winning one doesnt matter! Just highlight his unstoppable offense! See i told you it works!
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
2:19 am
Maybe Vad can start when he’s a junior. Till then he’ll just have to sit and wait cause I got more important stuff to do like, figure out how to get TW in on the dive too, or maybe we could have a double end around option with a QB boot, now your talkin, I’ll bet that will put more points on the board. Then everybody will bow down and tell how great my triple diple option with a bootleg twist is.
lewisbuzzard
September 25th, 2012
3:43 am
Agreed the man in charge has to take the heat for the way the season is unraveling but believe me there is plenty of blame to go around.
ENGRGT
September 25th, 2012
3:48 am
Truly it was defense not able to stop on many 3rd and longs, offense not able to move the ball in fourth quarter, safe play calling by PJ in 4th Q, not going for it on 4 and 1 in regulation when you know your D is gasses. The QB should have stuck with the play as blocked, but if he made a touch down I would be singing his praise. Now if the QB threw 1 int. had 1 fumble in the 4th quarter and did not recheck his play in OT, then I would blame him.
Burgess
September 25th, 2012
5:23 am
WOW….Johnson takes the blame for a loss, that’s a first. Usually he throws his players under the bus.
uafuneman
September 25th, 2012
5:54 am
Where’s Big Al Groh’s responsibility in all this mess?
GOGROH
September 25th, 2012
6:33 am
to keep his job, johnson needs to dump groh and change to a real offense. this wishbone doesn’t work in big games.
RogersParkRob
September 25th, 2012
6:49 am
Was it me or was CPJ trying to hand his communication equipment to an assistant at the end of regulation… thinking the game was over?
IM Major
September 25th, 2012
6:53 am
You guys can’t see the forest for the trees. Vad will help when he is ready but the overall problem with GT is Recruiting. Overall recruiting. Bottom line. If recruiting does not get better do not expect a better football team. We average in the forties in recruiting rankings under CPJ. Everyone is looking for diamonds in the rough so there are not many and everyone has good coaching so coaching up is limited. The only realistic thing is get better athletes. They don’t miss tackles and they make the first down when you need it to ice a win. How to do this, more majors, a coach who can work tireless at recruiting, support from the Hill and the Board of Regents and support from the Elitist engineering grads who think adding majors ‘hurts their degree’.
Jacket Man
September 25th, 2012
8:04 am
I would much rather have a Head Football Coach not be able to sleep over a game like the one the Jackets had Saturday, and then deflect blame so he can work on things to improve them, than to have a Head Coach who never seems to care about losing, continually makes excuses, or sits on his hands and does nothing to try to correct the problems.
I’ll take Paul Johnson as GA Tech’s Head Coach any day of the week.
Whiskey Breath
September 25th, 2012
8:05 am
Did I just read what I thought I read? We have a coach in the state of Georgia that actually takes
responsibility for a loss? That, you will never hear from Mark Richt. In fact, he doesn’t recognize a loss.
Can’t stand Tech, but you have a good coach.
ramblingbuzz
September 25th, 2012
8:14 am
First time I’ve heard CPJ really man-up fter a loss like this and take full responsibility for the the team. His team, his recruits. Maybe this will lead to changes in his approach. As the saying goes……Those who cannot learn from the failures of the past are doomed to repeat them.
kissieo
September 25th, 2012
8:27 am
CPJ or CAG should not be around to coach another loss in a bowl game….not that it matters
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
8:32 am
The worse kind of loss is usually when you think your team is going to win and then somehow blows it by going conservative or predictable.
To do that three times out of five, starting with what should have been CPJ first bowl win as Tech’s head coach. is infuriating.
We are giving of our time and money to feel good after the games, not to see a terrible play over and over again.
Always a Jacket
September 25th, 2012
8:33 am
Tech will not get much better under CPJ. We dont have the athletes on defense. We dont have a QB. STs are still average to bad. It is year 5 of CPJ and I dont see anything to give me hope that we can beat the better teams on our schedule in the next few years. If any of the freshmen were that good, they would be playing. One must assume the underclassmen could not beat out the starters, so not much improvement expected in future. Vad Lee is like a lot of great high school players, he is nothing until he proves it in college. CPJ knows he is on the hot seat and he will play Vad if he thinks Vad gives GT better chance, but apparently, TW is still better which is all we need to know about the future.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
8:34 am
Perhaps we should have a contest to guess Tech’s home crowd vs MTSU.
Not the paid crowd because many, including me, are saying they will stay home.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
8:41 am
@Always a Jacket.
I respectfully disagree.
Tevin is a damn good QB.
He is not Nesbit but Nesbit was a crummy passer.
Against Wake Forest in a 2009 home game, even Nesbit failed once on 4th down with the game on the line and was thrown for a loss.
Morgan Thomas saved CPJ and Nesbit from our whinners by sacking the Wake QB and pushing them out of a winning FG range.
I guess everyone has forgotten about that game.
Tevin had us what should have been a 35 all tie at Athens in the 2010 archrival game.
Why didn’t the missed extra point bring the kicker the same grief Tevin gets on here weekly.
You folks who thrown Tevin under the bus every week do not watch the same game I watch.
All three OT losses were the fault of the coaches.
Tevin had won all three before we went conservative in the Utah and Miami losses and failed to make the tackles in the VT loss.
The momentum shifted as a result of letting the other team back into the game.
Animal Control
September 25th, 2012
8:48 am
We look like crap on the field….but hey, atleast the players like their fashionable, non-GT traditional uniforms. As long as they’re happy…
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
8:50 am
I do not respect college coaches who are allowed to tear up the contract if anyone offers them more money. They forget all about the players they recruited and the fans who backed them thinking the coach might like to make a long career at their college.
Yet when they get fired, the contract becomes written in stone and they are paid millions to do nothing, even if they get a higher paying job.
What is Chan Gailey making as the Buffalo Bills coach?
It has to be millions a year yet did he give Tech a break.
Fat chance of that.
I have the same low opinion of both Gailey and Groh because of holding the college to the letter of the contract.
Virginia fans warned us.
On principle Groh should not have been hired but the coaching class thinks it is fine for them to get millions to do nothing and not give the prior college that already paid them millions a break.
Tommy
September 25th, 2012
8:55 am
Yes. PJ is the HC and ultimately responsible for everything. That being said, he had better address the job that his defensive coordinator ( AG) has done and make some major changes immediately or his days are numbered.
Technically Correct
September 25th, 2012
9:00 am
I still haven’t heard Coach Johnson say the words I want to hear before I come back to Bobby Dodd Stadium, “Vad Lee will be starting at quarterback this week…”
Go Jackets
September 25th, 2012
9:01 am
A realistic goal at this point is to win out except for Clemson and Ga (ouch) and win a bowl game finally. 4 loss season aint bad……but we fired the last guy for the type of record johnson is compiling over the last 4 years. We cant beat the big boys….4-17 gainst VT,Miami,Ga and bowl games.
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
9:06 am
CPJ will cry all the way to the bank.Don’t kid yourself,he isn’t worried about losses to VT,MU,UGA,& BOWLS(SOON TO BE (4-17) AFTER LOSSES TO CLEMSON & UGA).CAG looked plain foolish the way he coached the second half.TW can’t handle the pressure,and he doesn’t look fluid on the option.If you old timers remember JACK MILDREN @ OU ,HE RAN THE OPTION TO PERFECTION.You can’t make TW run the option smoothly.Ater 21/2 yrs. it’s not going to happen.It’s just like 4 yrs.didn’t make REGGIE BALL a good decision maker.Watch out for MTSU because they are a hungry team.
Poor Recruiting IS ALSO HIS FAULT
September 25th, 2012
9:07 am
We all know that the U is a low level ACC team. Period. They do have a few 4 and 5 star kids from the greater Miami area and that IS the difference maker. GT does not have talent to play with kids like this.
I watched the abbreviated version of the game on CSS last night and Tech was suffering form fatigue. Miami has superior skill athletes and they had a superior QB with a nice throwing arm and receivers were superior. Line play on both sides of the ball by the U, was superior.
Poor recruiting did Tech in and poor coaching. Paul Johnson is vastly over rated. Tech vs any decent teams will fade badly in the late 3rd and 4th qtrs.
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
9:15 am
The attendance for GT/MTSU will be 20,000-25,000.CPJ wants a packed house to watch his HS team play.He really doesn’t get it that DEFENSE wins CHAMPIONSHIPS.
gt4ever
September 25th, 2012
9:15 am
Win out except for Clemson and UGA… Hmmmmmm, well that is exactly what he is going to do… Hell, we can schedule more cream puffs so these morons can slobber all over themselves about how GREAT this offense is ranked sooooo High… Simply PATHETIC football! My dad is rolling over in his grave… GT football has really become such a DAMN embarrassment!
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
9:20 am
CPJ would not win a NC even if every player on the roster was a (4-star).There is more to a team than running 3 basic offensive plays.
TNJacket
September 25th, 2012
9:26 am
Paul Johnson claims to accept that the loss is his fault, but he does it like it is expected for him to say the words, but he really doesn’t think it’s true.
WELL IT IS!
Washington didn’t misunderstand anything. Johnson calls every play, doesn’t use a playbook, doesn’t need an Offensive Coordinator, and until this year didn’t need a Special Teams coach. All because he thinks he is smarter than everyone else.
Well, Paul Johnson is NOT is smartest guy on the sidelines as Coaches Richt, Beamer, Shannon, Muschamp and every bowl opponent continue to prove.
Johnson handpicks all his coaches, makes all player decisions, supervises recruiting, runs every practice, supervises scouting, and calls every play.
It is not a matter of he SHOULD be responsible, he IS responsible!
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
9:38 am
@TNJacket.
Agreed.
Tech has a number of old fans who struggle every home game to get to their seats.
I feel for those folks more than I do for myself.
Another point I am making is we should have a contract that prohibits hiring any coach “owed” money by another college. How many millions has Groh soaked Virginia for to do absolutely nothing.
We have a couple of those ourselves.
The coaches tear up contracts when anyone offers them more money.
Responsibilty for the players they recruited to the past college be damned.
ADs should be able to do the same when they fire a coach.
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
9:43 am
Watch CPJ on the sideline late in fourth quarter of close games.NO CONFIDENCE!!! He can’t close games,and his players are just like him.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
9:44 am
How do u score 36 unanswered points and lose?
And after 36 such points, how can anyone blame the QB?
Al Groh must go.
This time when he gets fired the college firing him (us) will not be required to pay him millions to do nothing.
BTW Tevin is probably jealous as heck of the pass protection the Miami QB gets.
How many times did we blitz?
Did not seem like many.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
9:48 am
@DOC 51.
It looks like the age of footbal story of going conservative.
Tevin played good enough to provide leads in all three OT loss games that should have been sufficient to win.
Here is what I see happening to Vad at Death Valley if he starts.
He gets the butt whipping CPJ and CAG should get.
Clemson fans want revenge for last year. (not to mention)
That stadium will be twice as loud as ours.
If u can’t beat the arch-rival but one out of 11, u lose fans.
That’s in the Bible somewhere I’m sure.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
9:53 am
Jamea Thomas (number 14) impresses me with his pick vs Clemson last year in the end zone and this year vs Miami.
They were not of the easy tipped ball variety.
They were of the very skilled corner variety of covering his man, looking back and finding the ball, then making the play.
Well done both times dude.
old dog
September 25th, 2012
10:03 am
Pure and simple….y’all gotta play defense! You DO NOT hve the defensive players to dominate. I hate it, ‘coz I want y’all to win (except against us.)
GTBob
September 25th, 2012
10:22 am
Paul Johnson claims to accept that the loss is his fault, but he does it like it is expected for him to say the words, but he really doesn’t think it’s true.
Do we have mind readers on the AJC blogs now? The bashing of Johnson is starting to get a little old. If you hate him so much then find another team until he is gone.
George Bartenfeld
September 25th, 2012
10:29 am
Maybe the problem is not Coach Johnson,could be the Coach that coach’s DEFENCE., Al Groh was no good at his former School
Cant figure iyt why he was hired in the first place
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
10:32 am
@ GTBob…..thanks for your 10:22 post. I agree completely.
I have a friend who was on the sideline during the game. This is some of what he emailed me regarding the way things played out in the 4th quarter.
I can’t see blaming Coach Johnson. As for not using Vad Lee. I don’t know what happened, but after Lee came in for Tevin when Tevin’s helmet was ripped off early in the game, Lee was not available anymore. He stood on the sidelines with his helmet off and a baseball cap on his head – I didn’t understand that nor did I hear of any injuries or problems – that is something that I can’t explain and don’t know the answer to, but I’m sure there is a good reason because Coach Johnson does not allow players who are capable of playing to take their helmets off and stand there with baseball caps on just watching the game.
You asked about using “The Pistol” late in the game. They did run it, but Tevin didn’t execute (I hate to put the weight on him, but as the quarterback, he is ultimately responsible – especially in that offense – it all starts with the play and the decision-making of the quarterback). In the fourth quarter, they ran a pass play from The Pistol on third and seven or eight from their own 38 and Tevin stood in the backfield with Orwin Smith swinging out along the left sidelines. Tevin then rolled left, hesitated – instead of pumping and forcing Smith’s defender to make a move – and then, just before the pass rush got to him, he one-hoped the ball to an open Smith 12 yards down field that could have been a first down and kept the drive and the clock moving. It all came down to execution on offense and defense with poor officiating and nasty Miami play.
As much as the loss hurts, (And, Coach Johnson was hurt because he knows what was happening and he couldn’t do anything about it) it is better to lose with class than to win the way Miami did. I saw the hurt in all the coaches, but I’m proud of them and the players – they played a clean, fair game and they deserve our respect and support. They played it “The Tech Way”. Coach Johnson will not allow his players to play the other way and takes action against them when he sees them retaliate. Miami players taunted and pushed things to the limits trying to get Tech players to throw a punch and draw the foul – it was a pitiful excuse for a major college football team. Fans need to realize, Miami is supposed to be under NCAA investigations for so many violations that it boggles the mind, but no NCAA actions. They have even more from last year, and still no actions or penalties and they can compete for the conference title and bowl games. Yet, Tech is hit with the loss of the ACC crown for one minor problem – even when they followed NCAA and ACC rules and regulations in investigating and taking action on the issue. It’s all about the money!!!!!!
Too Easy
September 25th, 2012
10:36 am
Interesting how DOC 51, gt4ever, and TNJacket all use the same CAPITALIZATION IN THEIR POSTS, HUH?
I smell dwag squeeze. Careful not to step in it Tech fans.
Billy
September 25th, 2012
10:46 am
I was at the game my seats are in section 222 I can’t remember 1 pitch play after we scored our 36th point in the third till over time the plays that should have been run on third and fourth down pitch right or quarterback around the right end, with that being said on third and fourth down were horrible spots third down play was definitely first down the ref on that side made some bad calls all day.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
10:53 am
@ Billy…..is section 222 in the upper east deck? I am in section 225, along with 1 4 GT.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
10:54 am
Apparently all the refs made bad calls all day
Al Bundy
September 25th, 2012
11:07 am
Analyze all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that we’ve lost 7 out of the last 11 games! OUR defense isn’t working! These coaches are paid a ton of money to figure things out and so far our defense is STILL a huge problem. The coaching staff isn’t doing their jobs! If they can’t fix it, find someone who can!
Al Groh
September 25th, 2012
11:17 am
Now I have two fan bases that hate me.
Isn’t that special?
Old Dog
September 25th, 2012
11:21 am
To Hell with Tek, today,tomorrow and the next day,too.
Rick James
September 25th, 2012
11:22 am
@Whiskey Breath
Did I just read what I thought I read? We have a coach in the state of Georgia that actually takes
responsibility for a loss? That, you will never hear from Mark Richt. In fact, he doesn’t recognize a loss.
Can’t stand Tech, but you have a good coach
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Perhaps you’d like for Georgia to hire him as OC when Tech fires him..You should not be that drunk at 8 am
LSU Tiger
September 25th, 2012
11:29 am
Offense is ok. Defense is and has been weak for past 4 years at least. Got to have a great defense in order to win on a consistent basis. Ask Les Miles and Nick Saban. No defense, no wins of any importance. You will always lose the big games, with a few exceptions. If you can’t win with 24+ points then there is no real hope and you are just a tease to your fans.
GT08EE
September 25th, 2012
11:35 am
CPJ can make all the excuses he wants, and all the “what ifs” he wants, but the bottom line is he loses. He made a poor choice in choosing Groh and it’s showing. We need to start all over with a new head coach and let him choose a new D coordinator. CPJ doesn’t even look like he wants to be on the sidelines sometimes and certainly hates the press conferences. I have never seen any other college that seems to find a way to lose as Tech does. Even when we have a lead, we are holding our breath knowing something bad will happen.
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
11:49 am
Read my post on page 4. Guys you don’t understand, This was just an ABERRATION not a problem.
Bobo
September 25th, 2012
11:50 am
How to retrieve this season
1) Start Vad Lee and be willing to go 6-6 or 7-5 while he learns. It’s much easier to accept losses when guys are improving than when they continue to show their limitations.
2) Expand the pistol and hybridize it with the flexbone attack we already have. Get your young receivers touches from West Coast passes and set up runs for our small speedy A backs. Let Laskey win the B-back job outright and gain experience.
3) Plan for Groh’s exit. I’ve said it a million times. You have to have incredible defenders on the line to play the 3-4 well and we don’t. Also, we don’t have the dominating middle linebacker that you need. Days, Drummond, and Nealy are good, but would be better in the 4-3.
4) Put jobs up for grabs. Benching Tevin will send a message to the rest of the team.
5) Get off your butt and recruit something beyond 3 star guys. Stars don’t mean everything, but they do mean something. You can’t compete without a few 4 and 5 star talents as strong points.
ignition
September 25th, 2012
11:53 am
GT will be fine they have to get the players.. And they coming. (Vad Lee, Justin Thomas, Francis Kallen, Pat Gamble, Hunt Days, ect..
We all know Tevin’s limitations but I Johnson needs to be benched ..
I don’t know if he is getting coached up enough or what but the constant missed tackles, blown assignments, and poor execution.. It has cost GT against VT, Utah, and this one with Miami..
JoeFan
September 25th, 2012
11:55 am
Very good of CPJ to shoulder the blame for the lost but he is the CEO of the GT football probram and every win or lost is on his doorstep. His responsibility, for $2.5 million per year, is to put a consistently top 20-25 program on the field. Given GT’s investment and the team’s average performance over five years would get most CEOs fired. Tech needs to decide now not in 2-3 years whether CPJ can get this program to and maintain the program at a higher level.
Bobo
September 25th, 2012
11:58 am
Also….for those of you who bash Johnson about his attitude or inflexibility, please face the reality that Tech is probably only about the 40th or so most desirable coaching position in the country. As an alumnus, I can’t see any place to hide a dumb athlete at Tech (not counting the one and done NBA guys). Johnson has to overcome recruiting limitations (which admittedly he hasn’t done a good enough job with) and find ways to be creative with a one-deep roster. Tell me who would be a better coach that would actually come to Tech for less than $3 million a season (which is against the academics first philosophy of GT)? The other guys who candidated with Johnson have been stink bombs. Randy Edsall has been terrible at Maryland, Tom O’Brien has been very average at NC State, and so on. Unless a young Saban disciple would be willing to come here (which carries its own risks), then who else? David Shaw would work here, but why leave Stanford? Chip Kelly would work here, but there’s no way he’s ever leaving Oregon. We just can’t land that kind of talent without selling something out.
Also, I can’t believe people fault Johnson for being terse with the media. That makes me respect him MORE because he’s a real person, not a walking sound bite like Mack Brown or Urban Meyer or a dozen other complete phonies. The media, by-and-large, are complete idiots and PJ calls a spade a spade in that respect.
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
12:06 pm
CPJ plays not to lose in the fourth quarter.You have to have a greater will to win than the player across from you.Our intensity and stamina are lacking in the fourth quarter.If games were decided after (3-quarters) GT would be (TOP-5) IN THE COUNTRY.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:08 pm
GT loses because of Tevin Washington. He can’t pass. He can’t run. He makes game-ending mistakes in OT. He can’t be relied upon for making a play. He can’t keep the defense off the field by getting some first downs.
Last 25 minutes of the game, up 17 points, is NOT enough when you only get 4 1st downs. Not enough.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
12:10 pm
Doc: plays not to lose? Let’s see. 3rd down, Tevin washington back to pass, SACKED. Another 3rd down, TW back to pass, incomplete. We ran b-back dives because laskey was the best RB we had going. TW was 3-8 in the game for goodness sake, you go with what works, and laskey was working.
Conservative? Hardly.
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
12:12 pm
This one statement pretty much sums it up
“Johnson said he thought the defense’s giving up 609 yards to Miami was “an aberration” and called the fourth-quarter play more of a concern than any specific defensive shortcomings such as the pass rush or secondary play.”
Definition of aberration:4. mental irregularity or disorder, especially of a minor or temporary nature; lapse from a sound mental state.
Wtf? Are you telling me that you are not really concerned with the defensive play the whole game in comparison to One QTR> of play by the offense? That it was just a minor miscue for the defense. Oh it was just a shortcoming that we didn’t have a pass rush or that the secondary got stomped upon all day. My Bad I didn’t know it was just a mistake. WAKE UP PEOPLE
Tech fans your eyes are getting heavier and heavier. When I count to 3 and snap my finger you will awaken and not remember anything that happened Saturday. You will only remember that the Triple option is the greatest and that the defensive side of the ball doesn’t matter.
tedgtfan
September 25th, 2012
12:30 pm
These words from his own mouth. This man is so intent in his own ambition of proving that the triple option will work that he has tunnel vision and unable see anything else.
DOC 51
September 25th, 2012
12:36 pm
GT Joe:Did you see the GT/UTAH BOWL GAME? CPJ went very conservative our last 2 or 3 series.The UTES shut us down,and it allowed them to attack our lousy defense.He has 3 basic running plays and the long pass.It’s PEPPER R. all over again.NO DEFENSE AND NO PASSING ATTACK.With his big salary GT FANS deserve more than 6-7 WINS.
formerGT1990Player
September 25th, 2012
12:37 pm
All that matters is that we have lost 2 games and it doesn’t look good for us against Clemson, BYU, and I don’t even want to think about UGA. CPJ is wondering why people are up in arms. Miami lost by 50 points to Kstate. VT lost to struggling Pitt team. That is why people are concerned. We have lost to teams that are not good. Quite simply, when you are paid the type of $ that CPJ is paid, he needs to win PERIOD.
ibidGT
September 25th, 2012
12:39 pm
Should play Gotsis more. See what his potential is. There is no time to see potential in our current D line made up of Juniors and Seniors. They have showed time and time again they can’t get to the QB. There is no upside or potential that can realistically be reached with them. Why not invest in young kids like Gotsis that will be around for 4 more years?
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
12:40 pm
3 of GT’s last 5 games have gone to OT … all resulting in Ls
Let’s see:
vs Utah, the D gave up 2 TD passes on 4th down
vs VT, the D couldn’t stop the Hokies in the final 44 seconds, giving up a 20+ yd 4th down pass
vs Miami, the D allowed a 91 yd drive to the Canes with just over 2 minutes remaining
Oooh, IDK, but it looks like GT might have some issues on the D side of the ball?
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
12:43 pm
formerGTplayer ……
I think you might want to check out K-St’s season so far ……. they’re pretty darn good. And Bill Snyder, K-St’s HC, has a knack for putting go DEFENSES on the field.
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
12:56 pm
Izaan Cross, 3-Star 79 grade (one more grade pt and he’s a 4-star)…
“Cross has good size and potential value on both sides of the ball. He is physical at the point of attack. Makes good contact out of his stance and can play with leverage. Flashes a good get-off, but needs to be more consistent in this area…” Scouting report on Izaan
It’s 2012, Cross is a senior … he has been pretty much non-existent for the Jackets in his career. To this point in his GT career, from ESPN, I.Cross has recorded a whopping 3.0 sacks!
Dawghater
September 25th, 2012
1:31 pm
Nice try CPJ. Your a lot further away from being 4-0 than you think. You are missing a Defense, in need of a new special teams coach (even though you just hired one) and in need of some common sense when it comes to play calling! Exactly why would you kick on 4 and 1 in the 4th when making it meant running out the clock and winning the game vs. 4 and 1 in overtime when missing it meant only 3 pts means you lose anyway? Poor coaching and a lack of talent is why you are not 4-0.
Mad Dawg
September 25th, 2012
1:36 pm
UGA fan here. I think GT should have won the UM & VT games because you guys have the talent. It’s the coaching that’s ostensibly holding you back. It’s time to get mean & nasty on both offense & defense the rest of the season. I hope you guys fix whatever is wrong and begin to kick some butt on the field – except for the game in Athens! Good luck.
mark twain
September 25th, 2012
1:42 pm
i thought for sure P>J> was going to blame it on BUSH.
GT Joe
September 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
Doc 51: no passing attack because Tevin can’t throw.
CPJ’s biggest mistake is not playing Vad. Vad probably should have started LAST year. This would be a special season if Vad started last year.
Nobody disputes that Vad is WAY more talented than Tevin in all facets. Let the kid play and learn on the fly.
Fair n Balanced
September 25th, 2012
2:19 pm
You give up 609 yards and 42 points and are not concerned about defense? That’s great! We Dawg fans hope this kind of thinking prevails at Tech!
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
2:28 pm
FYI folks,
GT is 2-2 this season, and 0-3 in the past 3 OT games b/c of the inconsistent/underperforming defense.
In the past 3 losses, ALL OT losses, the OFFENSE did enough, and gave the D a lead. Yet all 3 times the D couldn’t come up with a stop, and lost the lead. Heck, vs. Utah & Miami, the D couldn’t hold 14pt, 4th quarter leads.
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
2:37 pm
Exactly Fair n balanced!
Some of these idiots think that if a team were to have 400+ yds offense & score 36 every game that they would be lucky to win each week b/c the D doesn’t matter.
36 pts will win 95% of team’s games as long as its D can play.
GT Fan
September 25th, 2012
2:44 pm
Take 2011:
Had GT’s D given up 42pts each week they would have been 4-8 … No bowl game.
Had GT’s O scored 36pts each week they would have been 12-1 … ONLY VT scored more than 36pts (37) vs GT last season.
400+ yds & 36pts was NOT the problem on vs Miami.
Jacket Dad
September 25th, 2012
3:08 pm
First of all, thanks Coach Johnson for taking some of the responsibility of these losses. I personally asked for it and am glad to see it.
Overall, I think there are many pieces to this puzzle, but one of the most glaring is our going too conservative when in the lead – on both offense and defense. It’s like a broken record that just keeps playing over and over! Another is mental preparation. Our guys tend to read their press and if it’s fairly good or the previous week was a positive one, they tank the next. Both these situations at least partially fall on the coaches.
I’m bummed about the season so far, but not giving up. Get Vad more playing time. Add more variety to the offense. Get some leaders to put some life into this team and go out there and do your best. That’s all Jacket fans want.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
3:30 pm
Supersize quoted a friend on the sideline who said Miami was not called for penalties like holding.
Well that’s on Groh too.
We need a young, strong, get in the refs face, D coordinator and that is not Al(zheimer) Groh.
If Miami was as dirty as this fan attest, then Groh should have been all over the refs.
He is too old.
He was wrong from the start.
And just why should he get three years to produce when we were unhappy in 2009 with a winning team’s D coordinator mainly because we lost to Uga?
Well he has had 3 years and the time is up.
While Groh is on the sidelines, I’m staying home or hitting the links.
Blaming Tevin for CPJ’s and CAG’s mistakes may make me rethink basketball tickets too.
Tevin has been the hero in the 3 OT games in regulation and looked bad in OT because the momentum had shifted. None of the three games should have gone to OT.
Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
3:31 pm
@ Jacket Dad……if you have time, page back and read my post to GTBob at 10:32 this morning. I make reference to some comments emailed to my by someone who was on the sideline at the game. His observations may surprise you a little; they certainly did me
MC
September 25th, 2012
3:33 pm
Joe ever thought Vad might just be dumber than a box of rocks and PJ doesn’t trust him? That’s what I’m hearing.
GT Fan Since 56
September 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
It just doesn’t need to be as complicated as some of you are making it. There’s more analysis going on here than at the Federal Reserve. He is the HEAD COACH. Not the OC(although that seems to be his natural position). Not the DC. It’s NOT “his” offense, it’s his TEAM. Offense AND defense. And his body of work as a HEAD COACH the past three seasons is poor, and declining. Miami is not the issue, it is just a symptom. It is a single, simple question: do you believe that it will get better, or get worse, under Paul Johnson? You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect it. My answer is that I do not believe it will get better in the long term, based upon the evidence I have seen last season and this season. There may be good moments, nice wins, a fine recruit here or there, but long term, Paul Johnson is not the head coach I thought he was, and I do not think he is the best person to lead Tech’s football program. If you agree with that, then waiting to see if it gets better is a wasteful and foolish strategy. The logical next question is, how to effect change as professionally, gracefully, and quickly as possible.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
3:41 pm
@GT Fan Since 56.
Agreed.
I do not like being at odds with Supersize because he is a good guy but if his source is accurate, our coaches should have been yelling at the refs like Al Golden did the whole game.
Bobby Knight won three NCAA basketball championships and it was not from getting along with the refs.
The refs hated him.
But you sure as heck weren’t going to cheat his team and not get an earful.
Groh’s time is up and he should not have gotten a 3 year pass to produce.
I expect lots of empty seats for the last 4 games.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
3:44 pm
Those blaming Tevin must be watching a different game.
He has played good enough to be the hero in all three OT losses and I hate it for the guy that the defense has stolen the pats on the back he should be getting.
Al will not be owed millions if fired.
He needs to be shown the door sooner rather than later.
As a fan, I doubt I will be missed but while Groh is here, I’ll be somewhere else.
MC
September 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
Anybody that keeps up with GT knows the Story on Groh. It was money. GT only had to pay peanuts the first 2 years because UVA had to pony up 2 mill per. GT can’t afford to pay a top notch DC.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
3:48 pm
BTW I’ll be glad to run the D for free and show some of u how to get in a refs face.
If the other team plays dirty to my team, the sideline ref will hear more cusswords than he knew existed. I will not come unhinged but he will think I just might.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
3:49 pm
Yea I heard that MC.
Well then we should not have thrown the prior D coordinator under the bus.
MC
September 25th, 2012
3:50 pm
Fire Johnson. Hire a hungry young NFL assistant or up and coming college coach. Pay the new guy 1.5 mil or less and hire and pay a good young DC that wants to make his bones and is hungry. THen PLEASE GOD….go back to a pro style offense.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
3:54 pm
We can’t afford to fire Johnson. We just got finished paying Gailey off and now have years more of paying Hewitt 1.7 mil a year for 5 years.
Don’t like paying Hewitt?
That was one great reason not to hire Groh because he is doing that to Virginia.
If the coach gets to tear up the contract when they want to, the AD should be able to as well.
Eisendawg
September 25th, 2012
4:37 pm
Could someone please suggest if PJ feels the need to punch someone, could he make it GTBob?
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
4:42 pm
Funny Eisendawg.
I would like it to be the fans who knock our players instead of our overpaid coaches.
billyBobjacket
September 25th, 2012
4:47 pm
fuzzybee 78: His “approach” is pretty new, usually he says the players lose the games despite his obviously superior coaching ability and scheme.
blackandwhitestripes
September 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
Lets see, your offense scores 36 points and your defense gives up 42. Game over. Who do you blame for the loss? The offense for scoring 36 points or the defense giving up the 42? CPJ for both.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
5:06 pm
This reminds me of when I was a teenager and my dad stopped taking me to the games.
Or maybe I stopped asking to go.
This was during Bud Carson’s three straight years of 4-6, a losing record Tech fans were not at all used to after the Dodd years.
My dad was like a broken record, telling me after games that he had never seen so many angry Tech fans.
The worse loss is one where you are thinking you will win.
To have three of those out of the last five games and you get fans as angry as those Bud Carson years.
old dog
September 25th, 2012
5:09 pm
Thats what is fun about blogs; watching people dance around the real deal which is: Y’ALL AIN’T GOT A DEFENSE! If you had a defense, you would be okay. You’re dog-gone (no pun intended) near beating these folks with the worst defense in the history of organized athletics! You’re puttin points on the board, and I know that there is more strategy to a game than JUST defense. However, your defense blows one as long as a rail-road track…period. Even us ‘Dawgs that pull for ya except against us know that! And you can do better………………..for example until you get better recruits, run a D that does not require the best athletes in the country, which is what your offense is doing! (Can’t run a 3-4 w/o studs, guys….sorry!)
old dog
September 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
“Come on, man!” Help me out here, Supersize………….
Big Crimson 75
September 25th, 2012
5:21 pm
I would like it to be the fans who knock our players instead of our overpaid coaches.
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Detective — I would agree with that, in theory.
Sometime, the fans only recourse is to point fingers at a player rather than the Coaches or a particular System.
Lets cut to the chase, the player in question would be Tevin Washington.
It’s fair to legitimately criticize a College player.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
5:38 pm
Tevin said he was coached not to change a play twice.
In all three games, he played good enough to win without an OT if he was backed up by a decent D.
When I see a coach go conservative – how many times have we seen that – and allow a beaten team to make a comeback, sneak into OT and win, then in my book, it is not on Tevin but the coaches.
In all three, the nearly defeated team had momentum because they knew they were beaten but were given new life by Tech’s coaches playing it safe on both O & D.
U get in an OT with teams u had beaten, u r probably going to lose even if u had Peyton.
slimG
September 25th, 2012
5:39 pm
After the jacket nation and local media blasted CPJ, he finally took the blame. No more of chan’s studs=another nobody cares bowl. Time to hit the road.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
5:41 pm
The buck stops with Tevin?
No it stops with the guy making over two million who was a P.E. major at some small NC college.
If this humbles him, maybe he will get the team back on track.
Most on here seem to doubt that will happen.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
5:46 pm
That’s a confusing sentence of mine Big Crimson 75 picked out.
Two years of English at GT did not improve me enough.
Jacket Detective
September 25th, 2012
5:49 pm
I do not think Bradley and Bisher did CPJ any real favor by making him out to be the second coming of Bobby Dodd. Ted Turner liked to quote a saying of his dad’s: “pride goeth before a fall”.
slimG
September 25th, 2012
5:56 pm
All I heard for the first few weeks was how great our defense was? Now that we’ve played a couple of decent offenses it sucks? Who’s in charge down there? Vad is not ready for the big time obviously and I’m not hearing any big time recruits signing……This looks bad for years to come. Let’s cut our losing and move forward with a 21rst century program.
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Supersize that order, mutt
September 25th, 2012
6:08 pm
@ BillyBobJacket…..WHEN has CPJ ever blamed a player for a loss? NEVER. Unlike O’Leary who threw Joe Burns under the bus in PUBLIC comments after a game in Atlanta against Maryland.
DawgNole
September 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
George Stein
September 24th, 2012
10:25 pm
You must’ve had a pleasant Saturday evening, DawgNole, which would make it the exact opposite or ours.
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Yah, it was good–capped by Falcons’ and Braves’ victories. Clean sweep.
Hated to see GT lose such heartbreaker. Hoping y’all go on a run now–and come to Athens 9-2.
mike borders
September 25th, 2012
8:28 pm
Blame is on the defense. 52 pass plays and no sacks, and barely a couple of hurry’s. Miami and VT’s last drives in regulation were similar – they killed us with pass plays over the middle to WIDE open receivers. We continue to get out coached on defense in the 4th quarter. Badly need an attitude on defense and better coverage in the middle. With Gailey we couldn’t score, but held teams to low points. With PJ we score, but can’t stop anyone when we have a lead. Bring back Tenuta and get some fire on defense.
stony
September 25th, 2012
8:47 pm
We don’t need Tenuta back. We are starting to get better players( Hunt-Days, Nealy). What we need is flexible strategizing during games, and for our coaches to make on the fly adjustments to game conditions.
UGA = Yawn
September 25th, 2012
8:51 pm
I thought I counted at least 8, if not 9 – 3rd down conversions in a row for Miami. No?
UGA = Yawn
September 25th, 2012
9:00 pm
0-4 vs Miami (last 4 games)
0-3 vs VT (last 3 games)
0-3 vs UGA (last 3 games)
0-4 in bowl games (last 4)
0-3 in OT games (last 3 overtime games)
0 – 17 or 0 for forever!!!
What exactly do you we base our coach’s merits? Wins vs Duke and a church school??
And how on Earth do we ever expect to fill the seats? I expect 20,000 or less at the next game. This loss did more to damage the Tech fan’s spirits then any I can remember for a long, long time. To recover, will be next to impossible.
I watched the FSU / Clemson game last night. They’re just like GT – only TEN times faster!
We are not Alabama or Oregon. We can not recover from bonehead execution and coaching. The safety? OMG. Seriously. Add 9 pts to Miami and the game basically.
bp
September 25th, 2012
9:09 pm
We go 7 and 5 another crap bowl another loss.Rinse, repeat
Burgess
September 26th, 2012
7:36 am
Don’t worry about it, Paul. Remember, it just wasn’t meant to be. LOL…..damndest quoter ever by a D1 coach after a game.
old dog
September 26th, 2012
9:40 am
See my above post………defense, pure and simple!
The Dulous, '70
September 26th, 2012
10:10 am
I won’t start watching again until one of these happens:
(1) FIRE AL “GUTLESS” GROH and his “GUTLESS” defense.
(2) You got two QB’s sitting on the bench better that TW…..it’s time for Johnson to thank TW for his service, and give the ball to Vad Lee. THIS SEASON IS OVER!
Dawg1
September 26th, 2012
1:23 pm
I’m not that big of a CPJ fan. And I’m not going to get into why – point being made for the following:
A year ago, Tech came out of the gate and looked like they were gonig to win the SEC.
Georgia struggled out of the gate and ended up winning the East.
Point being that before you decide CPJ’S fate – you might want to give it the season. He’s correct; both losses were in OT. Both games were winnable.
Injuries, one or two turnovers can equate to upsets, etc.
At the end of the day, these kids are 18-22. Mistakes will happen with any team and injuries happen to virtually every team during the year.
And the one thing that CPJ continues to do is ‘red shirt’. He is trying to do something that is very difficult to do – build depth. Hard to say how talnted the depth is – but he is trying to build it.
Again, not a fan, but I do believe that he deserves the rest of this season, before the wolves start circling.
Dawg1
September 26th, 2012
1:24 pm
Sorry – ACC.
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