After Miami loss, Tech tries to regroup

With two ACC Coastal Division losses, Georgia Tech is left to take a test it had no interest in taking when the season began three weeks ago Monday. Do the Yellow Jackets have the requisite coaching and leadership to compete over the final eight games of the season with almost no chance of winning the ACC title?
Objectives remain – beating rival Clemson for the sixth time in seven tries, ending losing streaks to Georgia (three games and 10 out of the past 11) and in bowl games (seven) and winning 10 games for only the fourth time since 1956. Tech can show its defensive hemorrhage was an aberration.
The first item, though, will be picking up the pieces from their emotionally costly loss Saturday, a 42-36 overtime defeat to Miami at Bobby Dodd Stadium. Monday, Tech begins preparing for Middle Tennessee State, a game that the ACC announced Sunday will kick off at noon at Bobby Dodd Stadium.
“I feel like we have some good leaders on the team, and they’re going to keep everybody up,” A-back Tony Zenon said. “We just have to have a good week of practice and stay focused on the rest of the games.”
There will be plenty to address as the Jackets prepare for the Blue Raiders and correct errors from Saturday’s loss. The game included a series of lamentable plays for the Jackets, who valiantly returned from a 19-0 first-quarter deficit by scoring 36 consecutive points, but then gave up the game’s final 23 points.
“We made way too many errors in all three facets of the game,” coach Paul Johnson said Saturday.
The Tech offense produced, with 419 yards and 36 points. Saturday was just the sixth time since the start of the 2009 season that the Hurricanes had given up 36 or more points. However, needing to close the door at game’s end, the Jackets couldn’t. After Miami closed the margin to 36-22 with 4:25 to play in the third quarter, Tech produced four first downs over its next three possessions, one by penalty. It gave the Hurricanes more time to come back and returned the Jackets defense to the field more quickly than preferred.
Once back on the field, Miami exploited missed tackles, strong pass protection and advantageous play-calling to force overtime. Hurricanes quarterback Stephen Morris threw 52 times without being sacked once. In the fourth quarter and overtime, Tech allowed 216 yards on 23 plays, a 9.4 yards-per-play average. It called to mind come-from-ahead losses to Virginia Tech in the season opener and Utah in the Sun Bowl.
Prior to the Sun Bowl, Johnson was 31-2 in which Tech led or was tied after three quarters. Tech is 2-3 in those situations since then.
On a day full of mistakes and errors, one of Tech’s last was among the most costly. On their final offensive play of their 42-36 overtime loss to Miami Saturday, the Jackets apparently played into the Hurricanes’ hands.
On Tech’s overtime possession, Miami defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio anticipated a quarterback keeper on the 4th-and-1 play from the 2-yard line and handcuffed the Jackets accordingly. D’Onofrio had linebacker Eddie Johnson re-position himself after quarterback Tevin Washington audibled to a new play at the line of scrimmage, Hurricanes coach Al Golden said Sunday on his teleconference.
In short, Johnson lined up inside of offensive tackle Ray Beno, enticing Washington into changing the play at the line of scrimmage. When he did, Johnson re-aligned himself outside Beno, putting the Hurricanes in favorable alignment to defend Tech’s new play, a toss to A-back Orwin Smith.
“They made a check and we made a check after they made a check,” Golden said. “I guess we got [them] last on that one.”
Recognizing a toss play would likely get blown up against Miami’s new alignment, but following the team protocol permitting one “check” at the line of scrimmage, Washington chose to keep the ball and try for the first down himself. He was stopped short of the first down by Johnson, who was unblocked on the play. Miami won two plays later on a 25-yard run by running back Mike James.
“He didn’t stick with [the toss], but he’s the leader,” Smith said. “I trust his instincts.”

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

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Mike Bell 790

September 23rd, 2012
9:20 pm

RochesterJacket

September 23rd, 2012
9:30 pm

Great effort but I didn’t like the way we came out from the start. We still have a lot to play for so we need to keep our heads up and support our Team; good times and bad.

crackbaby

September 23rd, 2012
9:34 pm

One game at a time…. There is still a lot of football left to play.

RochesterJacket

September 23rd, 2012
9:35 pm

After watching FSU and Clemson, CPJ does a great job with the talent he has. It amazes me the talent gap there is among different teams. We better stick with the triple option because there is no way in hell we can run a pro-style offense with the caliber of athletes we can recruit at Tech.

:-( Tech Fan

September 23rd, 2012
9:40 pm

Inconsistant…..no defensive pressure…CPJ should have went for it on 4th down in regulation. If he makes it he wins and if he doesn’t then you have the same results as punting. Miami out played Tech and they out coached Johnson. This is becoming a habit in big games.

:-( Tech Fan

September 23rd, 2012
9:42 pm

I think Tech could recruit for the pro-style because more skilled athelets would want to come to Tech. You don’t get the top recruits for the triple option.

:-( Tech Fan

September 23rd, 2012
9:46 pm

If we can’t recruit talented athelets then we need to get out of the ACC and move to the Sunbelt or C-USA. Maybe even move out of the FBS to the FCS. No, Johnson recruits for this offense and not many 5 star athelets want to be apart of it.

Jacket Fan

September 23rd, 2012
9:47 pm

The errors, and the loss, are on the coaches – nobody else. Adults need to take responsibility for their actions.

Buzz-ard

September 23rd, 2012
9:50 pm

Now that scheming won’t get it done anymore, PJ brings nothing to the table. He’s a very poor leader. High-caliber athletes don’t want to play for him. He won’t make it past next season.

collegeballfan

September 23rd, 2012
10:03 pm

Since 1960 GT is 328 – 266 – 10. This season will be about like those previous 52 seasons.

Since 1960 GT has not been able to consistently recruit the athletic that is recruited by those perennial top 20 teams. Who the coach is does not appear to matter.

RochesterJacket

September 23rd, 2012
10:06 pm

Tech has the same problem as Duke, Wake Forest and other well-respected institutions of higher learning. 5 star players come to college to become better athletes and could care less about becoming better student athletes. That is why you will NEVER see schools like these at the NC level. If Tech creates a major called NFL Development, then we can compete with anyone. Yes, we were able to recruit one or two major recruits but you need ten to be able to compete at a NC level i.e. Alabama.

Buzz-ard

September 23rd, 2012
10:13 pm

Once PJ is gone Tech will be an inferior team for 4-5 years while the new coach tries to recruit in kids who can play against the stronger ACC teams. Rochester Jacket, Tech is not even a real contender for ACC titles anymore, let alone the NC. PJ offered differentiation but the problem is that his way is just different, not better.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 23rd, 2012
10:23 pm

It’s as simple as 4 and 5 star athletes are faster, bigger and more talented than 2 and 3 star athletes. You could see the difference at the beginning of the game. But GT still should have won the game. Safety was huge mistake as was Tevin not changing the play to counter the defense change. I guess it’s hard to cover every situation. These are still smart and respectable young men and I will continue to support and cheer for them. ” GO JACKETS “

Tech93

September 23rd, 2012
10:29 pm

We can keep being mediocre with CPJ and Al Groh or we can go ahead and give the program a chance to advance in a couple of years. Either way, we will be a 7-5 team for a couple of years. It would be good to know, though, that after a couple of years we might be better. You will never be able to recruit elite players with the triple option. Furthermore, you have to be able to pass the ball in college football today. On defense, running a 3-4 will not work. We do not have the personnel or the depth to do it, especially on the D-line. Tech is becoming a predictably bad football program and it is ashame, because we have the opportunity to be better. I say it is time to change the coaching staff. Recruit Bill O’Brien to tech as head coach and have godsey reunite with him as offensive coordinator. Then hire a good defensive coordinator. It may seem a little far fetched, but it would be a much better direction then we are going in right now.

Depth

September 23rd, 2012
10:30 pm

it goes back to depth–tech has no depth on defense.They wore them out in the first qurter and the long drive late. No subs have developed.

CT_Jacket

September 23rd, 2012
10:33 pm

Unhappy, how many schools run a Pro-Style offense? Alabama, Boise St, California, Colorado, Colorado St, Connecticut, Fresno St, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Miami, Michigan St, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Carolina, Ole Miss, Pittsburg, Ole Miss, Rutgers, Stanford, Syracuse, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Tulane, USF, UCLA, USC, UVA, VT, Washington and Wisconsin. How many of these teams are getting five star recruits? You think Tech switching to a Pro-Style offense will all of a sudden draw 5-star recruits? Try another argument.

3-4

September 23rd, 2012
10:33 pm

3-4 is hindering tech– they seem better the few times they have tried the 4-3

SavannahJacket

September 23rd, 2012
10:45 pm

Ken – Can you get us an injury update? We saw Will Jackson go out with what appeared to be an ankle injury and the offense wasn’t nearly as sharp. Also Atlachou left with a leg injury during that time that we gave of the last two touchdowns. Any others?

Malcolm Mackey, Jr.

September 23rd, 2012
10:46 pm

Paul Johnson was a defeated man yesterday….the interview with Wes Durham was so bad that they pulled it from Youtube…..perhaps the PE Major from Western Carolina is learning some humility….

CT_Jacket

September 23rd, 2012
10:49 pm

We ran the 4-3 before Groh got here. They never stopped a passing attack either.

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September 23rd, 2012
11:10 pm

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Thank you all for the b day wishes. It means a lot to know there real ppl out there. Wish we would have got the win but the greatness if a man is how he bounces back from adversity. Love God, my fam, tea and all on my side! #hungry
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Ga Tech Old Timer

September 23rd, 2012
11:13 pm

Anyone out there wanting to lead another discussion this week about how Tech got screwed over last week when we dropped in the polls??? Ken??

Players and fans need to stop reading the press about 50+ points in the last two games and listening to how good we are / can be / this is our year / we’ve turned a corner.

Prove it on the field against the teams we’ve lost to consistantly – Va. Tech – Miami – Georgia and in bowl games.

It’s the same old story year after year! Any one else at the game besides me notice the excitement and desire in Miami’s team as they jumped up and down on the sideline just prior to the OT – while Tech milled around on their sideline – physically spent and emotionally drained? Where was the leadership throughout the game and going into OT that could / would pick the players up? With only 4 first downs in the last 4 1/2 minutes of the game – don’t you think that the defense was spent – exhausted because they couldn’t rest since the offense was doing all the resting at that point.

Team and coachs – all need to be taken to get ripped for this loss. There was no excuse for what happened! Yes – there were some bright spots and fantastic individual plays for about a quarter and a half – but you can’t ride to glory on the way we played and coached unless we want to drop back to D2.

I’m still waiting for Johnson to think of a different fake 4th down play that might draw the defense off sides – the one he’s been running for 5 years is a joke and hasn’t drawn anybody off sides since the Jacksonville State game in the first season he was here. And to go for a first down on a 4th and 1 at your own 50 on your first position when you have no idea what defenses the other team is running yet as evidenced by zero points well into the second quarter is not only dumb but puts immediate stress on the defense when you don’t make it – which now has become most of the time when playing D1 schools because we call practically the same plays every time – Tevin keeps on a sneak or tosses on a short side sweep. Ever think about trying to hit a short pass or some other play?? Johnson basically has become so predictable the Miami coach had it figured out before the play ran knowing that Tevin can’t / won’t check more than once and what our tendancies are. It was a no brainer for the Miami coach – and really a no brainer for Tech’s coach because that’s what he always does! Blame Tevin for not getting in – no way. The play was doomed. Let’s talk about AG for a minute. Miami is running a hurry up offense but AG still wants to run his personnel in and out – a couple of times causing penalties for too many men on the field. If that wasn’t bad enough – the players were winded and looked to be confused most of the time with all the hurry up substitutions – and still trying to get into their position after the ball had been snapped – and all the running on and off the field only served to tire the players even more. The defensive line got no push into Miami’s backfield to disrupt the flow or pressure the QB. Players at every position were missing tackles – multiple players at a time could not get the runner down. Passes were completed at will most of the time with the few exceptions of a couple interceptions and dropped potential interceptions. The swarming defense of the last couple games mostly left it in the locker room with the exception of a few exceptional plays. And on special teams – how does your punter shank a free kick so it only travels about 30 yards to mid field?

There are a lot of questions that need to be answered after that poor showing Saturday and the answers need to come from the top first and then the players.

I’ve been a loyal Tech fan and staunch supporter since Bobby Dodd coached here and a season ticket holder for many years. I’ll show up next week and cheer for Tech again as I always have. However, there a lot of fans out there that won’t be coming back. Future losses to Clemson and Georgia will insure fewer and fewer season ticket and single ticket sales. And, those losses are about as predictable as Johnson’s play calling. The exciement of a new offense is quickly disappearing because it becomes a dead in the water offense with out line blocking which is what we had Saturday. The excitement of a new defense is quickly disappearing because it’s dead with out a line strong enough or big enough to push into the backfield and players who can’t tackle. The excitement of a new special teams coordinator is quickly disappearing because of poor communication between players that ends up in a safety and a punter that shanks the ball on a free kick with no pressure on him.

All in all – it was a game that emotionally took a roller coaster ride from dispair in the first quarter to hope and pride in the second and third quarters to disbelief, anger, bitterness and frustration in the fourth quarter and OT. It’s time for a gut check for coachs and players. It’s time for all of them to step up and be committed to excellence or find those who can or will be. Unfortunately, it’s also a time for a gut check for Tech’s fan base and new commers as well. An investment in season tickets is not cheap – single game tickets aren’t cheap. All the money spent on travel, rooms to over night and food is not cheap when fans like myself travel long distances to home and away games. Losses are to be expected from time to time – however, constant improvement is to be expected and can / should be demanded. This game was clearly a setback that never should have happened – at any level – coaching, playing, mentally or physically. It did and there needs to be some hard questions asked and straight forward answers given.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 23rd, 2012
11:17 pm

@ Old Timer……I can’t disagree with a thing you said

CT_Jacket

September 23rd, 2012
11:26 pm

OT, summed up my feelings nicely.

RochesterJacket

September 23rd, 2012
11:29 pm

Miami simply has better athletes than Tech. That is why we lost and will continue to lose against superior talent. Scheming only makes the game closer but talent always win out. We must recruit better players and get them to qualify. Imagine if we had guys like #71 from Miami. CAG would look like a genius if we had more players like him.

Wardo

September 23rd, 2012
11:34 pm

Oldtimer, you hit the nail right on the head. Do we accept mediocrity or ask the hard questions and move forward? Personally I would like to see Vad Lee get some time moving forward to remove the excuse of a “rookie” QB next season. Go Jackets!

GSUGT

September 23rd, 2012
11:36 pm

wow…GT Old Timer…you said it all. I’m a huge fan of Coach Johnson and the TO, but there are gonna have to be changes starting next week…I may bring my girls down to see the game…maybe this will finally be the wake up call…new starters and possibly new coaches at the end of the season…you know at Ga Southern,Coach Moncken has been doing some pretty innovative sets with the TO out of the shotgun, not to blame Tevin, but isn’t it obvious we need a new field leader. When it comes to crunch time (right or wrong) he can’t get it done….and maybe for the coaches too.

JustinSyder

September 23rd, 2012
11:41 pm

I know it’s MTSU, but I’m looking foward to see how this team responds. Someone on this team, whether it is Orwin, Tevin, Uzzi, or Skully needs to be a vocal leader. Someone step up. Do what Dwyer did after a big run and just start losing your fricken mind. Do something!!!

Tech Fan

September 24th, 2012
12:06 am

Some of my fellow fans need to step back from the ledge. You can’t really complain about a lack of talent for losing in OT. If Miami has so much more talent, how are we basically even? You also can’t pin this loss on the offense or CPJ. If you score 36 points on 400 yards of offense, then offense is not the problem. Clearly the problem in this game (and most of our losses) is defense. CAG will be in trouble if this does not dramatically improve.

crazyman

September 24th, 2012
12:07 am

vad lee. once he starts we will win. we have never been than mediocre with tw. might as well try it.

Mike Geigerman

September 24th, 2012
12:21 am

Plenty to still play for besides spoiler.. Good game and nice comebcak anyhow. Go Jackets !

stingpower

September 24th, 2012
12:27 am

Old Timer, I couldnt agree with you any more and i couldnt have said that any clearer. However, If you tried to ask any of the coaches your tough questions they wouldnt respond at all. Ill never forget the time i asked CPJ a recruiting question about redshirting. He basically told me to take a long hike and that only the coaches and players would know if they were getting redshirted. It was a general question.

ENGRGT

September 24th, 2012
12:42 am

Old Timer has it right.

Old timer did not specifically say it was an offense only problem or a Tevin only problem. This loss in and of itself is not the problem. The hard part is this is the third overtime loss, with many of the same issues, in 5 games.

Yes the defense did not get the job done in the 4th quarter but neither did the offense. Is this a player problem or a play calling/defensive setup issue? Most likely a litte bit of both.

The offense failed to keep the defense off the field. The defense did play prevent, but AG would have been just has ridiculed if they made yards on blitzes (VT game anyone?).

The game came down to one safety, 5 missed holds on five 3rd and long in the 4th, choosing to play the clock out and minimize the chance for a turnover(good and bad), punting on 4 and 1 when you know the defense is gassed, and 4 and 1 in OT and you do what everyone else is expecting.

I like Paul, I think Tevin has good footwork, I think Vad Lee show significant promise, and I happen to love the tripple option. I wish we could be less predictable, have a little more passing, and can do what it takes to finish a game when we are ahead by more then two scores. My prayers and thoughts go out to the players… I am pulling for you, I will be watching you play come Saturday and I will be yelling for you as loud as I can! (I sure hope you players don’t read these boards!)

ATL Black Jacket

September 24th, 2012
12:54 am

Oh well, guess I’ll have to look forward for next year.

Groh Has To GO (by Captain Obvious)

September 24th, 2012
2:44 am

Bottom Line: To win the ACC today, you have to be able to WIN the close games.

When you have a lead against 2 Div opponents with less than a minute and practically the entire field to go, but Al Groh’s D can’t produce a stop when needed….Well, you end up with 2 OT losses that should have been wins. The teams that win those close games are the ones who will battle it out at the top.

GT isn’t “outmanned” or “outrecruited” in the ACC…Otherwise we would be seeing 35-7 and 28-0 losses. What we are witnessing is CPJ & staff being OUTCOACHED at the end of games. You don’t have to be Einstein to figure that one out. But you do have to be more FLEXIBLE than CPJ and Groh will ever be in order to turn it around. They are both as stubborn as Chan Gailey and that consistently snatches defeat from the jaws of victory in today’s college football when games are routinely decided in the final minutes or even seconds…

609 yds of offense against Groh’s D….Really? According to the AJC, GT has surrendered more yds in only 2 other games in the entire history of GT Football (667 & 610). That’s not merely ineffective or being outplayed or learning a new system — That’s FAILURE on an epic scale!

And as for the O, who didn’t know what Tevin would do on 3rd and 4th downs in OT? If you didn’t, then you haven’t been paying attention.

Perhaps the most disappointing part of this entire chapter of GT Football is the fact that CPJ will NEVER — and I do mean NEVER — admit that failure or defeat is his fault…Also eerily reminiscent of the Chan Gailey days.

CPJ will never admit that hiring Al Groh (after his UVA firing) was a mistake.

CPJ will never admit that his Spread Offense is not really that unique anymore and the mystery has been sufficiently solved on film enough times now that teams no longer “fear” it.

CAG will never admit that his 3-4 D requires an NFL quality NT, which GT will never be able to recruit…And that a simpler 4-3 that kids have played since they were 6 yrs old would be much more effective in today’s college ball.

As long as CPJ and staff remain inflexible and without creativity, GT Football will produce the same results….Win games by blowout against lesser opponents….Lose by 2 TDs or more against superior opponents…Lose close games in the final minutes against similarly talented opponents.

The mere fact that Al Groh was not fired immediately following Sat’s game confirms that the course remains unchanged…..609 yds given up on D?!? So exactly when does one conclude that this man’s 3-4 scheme (scam) is NOT working?

The “Coaching Genius” that was once CPJ was merely a myth…..

Jacket Fan

September 24th, 2012
6:21 am

Did we have any timeouts left when Tevin got stopped at the 1?

Where was Bostic last weekend? He’s been a playmaker all year and I honestly don’t remember seeing him.

How can we win a game when we only pass it 8 times?

John

September 24th, 2012
6:37 am

The football team has become an embarrassment to the Georgia Institute of Technology. Mental lapses, being unprepared… these are not qualities of Georgia Tech.

GT BOB

September 24th, 2012
6:43 am

Time for Johnson to go!

DOC 51

September 24th, 2012
6:45 am

GT may have 20,000 in attendance next Saturday .What happened to CAG’s 3-yr.learning process on defense?Our players can’t tackle,and they are not held accountable each week.Reggie Ball(4-yr.starter)—TW-21/2 yr.starter///.That is lousy coaching period by CCG and CPJ.Nobody has any heart on this team.

Tech Actuary

September 24th, 2012
6:52 am

This was a definitely a fail in many aspects of the game. Our special teams safety fiasco contributed to a massive hole. Our defense has the same problems it has last year: we tackle poorly, we cover poorly, and we can’t pressure the quarterback. Our offense played mostly well until we needed a drive in the 4th to put points on the board and couldn’t move. And the missed block on the 4th down play was horrible.

All of that being said, I’m surprised to see so many tech fans wanting to jump off the Johnson bandwagon. I keep seeing these, “Top athletes don’t want to come to our school because of the scheme” comments and I ask when top athletes ever wanted to come to our school? We don’t get five star recruits. We never have and we never will. Every once in awhile we might score a winner like Calvin Johnson or so but we will never be able to outrecruit the SEC schools in the vicinity as well as Clemson, Florida State or Miami.

Also, the scheme Johnson runs is still primarily successful. Without two epic end of game defensive letdowns we’d be 4-0 right now. We can’t make the clutch plays when we need to. If our defense allows UGA and Clemson to tear us apart I think it will be time for a change at D-Coordinator. I know the head coach is ultimately responsible for all phases of the game but until Tech decides to pony up the cash to bring in a top notch defensive coordinator I think this is going to be our destiny. If our defense was playing even decently last season and this would look very different.

adams 56

September 24th, 2012
6:59 am

Fire Al Groh! How do you blow a 17 point lead? oh yeah, no defense.

WnE

September 24th, 2012
7:00 am

Where’s Florida Jacket?

The guy with the propaganda-based Rumbleseat website that puts forth the most Pro-CPJ drivel that I have ever seen.

All those excuses and crap he was talking about, he hasn’t graced these blogs since “The U” won in OT.

As much as he has questioned ny accurate ANALYSIS, I would have thought that he would show his font around these parts.

I guess we all know what kind of coward he really is.

BTW, the LINE FORMS here:

I am going to make one of these posts for each of the Miami-Game Ken-S blogs so that all my detractors can line up an give me the apologies that I DESERVE.

Much of what has happened to GT Fb the last 2 years was foretold by me right after CPJ was hired in Dec. 2007

CPJ is what I thought he was, but all the OTHER GT fans let him off the hook (not me of course):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYKIcnj1MJY

IM71

September 24th, 2012
7:10 am

The problem is GT as a whole is not committed to big time football. More Liberal Arts Majors and Education Majors would help. Today’s Athlete does not identify with an ‘Institute’. The Hill and the Board of Regents could help. I for one plan to Golf on Saturdays unless something changes at GT. I have been a fan since 1956 and have had it with GT football.

MC

September 24th, 2012
7:16 am

Clemson and Georgia will get ugly. They’ll both hang half a hundred on us. At least.

WnE

September 24th, 2012
7:18 am

Where are all the GT fans that laughed at me when I criticized the CAG hire?

At that time I clearly stated that CAG’s NFL experience meant next to nothing since the NY FB Giants had a great GM named George Young that was good at acquiring TALENT while CAG worked with the Giants.

Well, guess who was RIGHT yet again?

It seems as if hindsight has been treating me a lot better than all of my detractors that muddy up these blogs.

Not a lot of commentary from Supersize. 5150 and the rest of the motley crew.

From reading the many responses this weekend there seems to be LOT of “WnEs” from among the GT Fanbase.

I wonder will High Tech and hid lackeys TRY to run them down the same way they tired to do with, but I stood strong and fought the good fight and told the TRUTH about CPJ & CAG?

Miami had 34 of their 2-deep (44 players) that were 1st or 2nd year players, in other words we probably won’t be able to beat those guys for another 3 years minimum, unless injuries or heavy NCAA sanctions interfere.

Their TALENTED VERY YOUNG players dominated our “diamond-in-the-rough” older players for all those that dismiss the evil Recruiting Rankings.

Where are our Duke Johnson’s or Chickillo(? DE #71, true Soph.), or Erick Flowers, T-FR. OT 6-7 320lbs.?

We brag about the Kallon or the big Aussie ,but our guys are LIGHT years away from their young guys when it comes to RAW TALENT.

BTW, #71-DE, Chickillo(?) was Recruited by GT and it came down to GT or Miami and he chose Miami, so I guess we need to stop playing the Academics card.

Also as far as not playing the Academics card, Tuitt from ND played very well, Wilder-Jr. from FSU played very well, and Keith Marshall from UGA played very well, all those ELITE RECRUITS had the Academics for GT but turned GT DOWN for one reason only…………..CPJ & his gimmicky Triple-SLOPtion Offense.

MC

September 24th, 2012
7:22 am

IM71 is it not obvious now the direction the program is headed under CPJ? Firing Groh does nothing. GT can’t pony up the bucks to hire better. Groh is there to begin with because UVA was paying the ballance of a very large salary and GT was only picking up 260,000.00 or so. GT football is in trouble. Somebody with a brain needs to pick up the phone and call Mike Leach or June Jones. At least bring 21st century football back in style here.

btgt69

September 24th, 2012
7:25 am

Old Timer has it right. I too am sick and tired of traveling from Columbia SC to see this train wreck. Perhaps the “first down whistle” is really a warning signal of a forthcoming wreck. 3-4 and Groh must go. I regret the decision to also buy tickets to MD and saga games. What a waste of my grandkids college funds.

btgt69

September 24th, 2012
7:26 am

sorry not enough coffee yet,, meant uga not saga

WnE

September 24th, 2012
7:27 am

re:
IM71
September 24th, 2012
7:10 am

The problem is GT as a whole is not committed to big time football. More Liberal Arts Majors and Education Majors would help. Today’s Athlete does not identify with an ‘Institute’. The Hill and the Board of Regents could help. I for one plan to Golf on Saturdays unless something changes at GT. I have been a fan since 1956 and have had it with GT football.
____________

Please stop playing the Academics Card!

In recent years many Heisman winners & finalists have been Academic Qualifiers for GT but GT had no shot to get them, the reason is that our FB program is perceived as a small potatoes FB program by elite Recruits.

Tebow Academic Qualifier

Cam Newton Academic Qualifier; laptop drama notwithstanding

RG-III Academic Qualifier

Andrew Luck Academic Qualifier

Russell Wilson Academic Qualifier

Matt Barkely-USCw Academic Qualifier

Academics is not GT’s problem, CPJ being a terrible Recruiter is GT’s problem.

In Recent years every Mutt QB has been an Academic Qualifier for GT:

David Green
DJ Shockley
Matt Stafford
Aaron Murray

If we get any one of those guys we strengthen GT & weaken UGA at the same time.

We don’t have Academic issues, we have an issue closing on Elite Talent with many options other than GT, in many cases GT doesn’t even make those guys final 3 or 4 choices.