CPJ offers more insight on QB depth

I’m still getting notes together from the Tuesday news conference, but thought I’d give you Paul Johnson’s full responses to a couple questions about Vad Lee. Here ya go.

Q: Will Lee play against Virginia?

A: We’ll see. I’m going to try to play him some. I’m not going to commit myself to saying he’s going to be in the second series or third series or whatever. I’ll play by feel, to some degree. Vad and I will know that. Nobody else will. I think he did some positive things. He’s got great upside. He’d be the first to tell you, as I said yesterday, that he’s got a lot of things to work on.

The thing that’s remarkable, because of the position, the most popular guy on the team is always the backup quarterback Once Vad plays for a while, it’ll probably be Justin (Thomas). Everywhere I’ve coached, that’s just the way it is. Anthony Harrell went in at linebacker and knocked the snot out of some people and caused two fumbles and nobody’s wanting to know if he’s gong to play again. Trey Braun went in and played offensive guard and did really well, but nobody’s wondering when he’s going to play again.

It’s the nature of the position. But he’s  got ability, and we’re going to try to bring him along and not throw him to the lions. He’s still a redshirt freshman. He’s still got a long time to be here and a long time to learn but we’re excited about where he is.

Q: So is he the backup?

A: Situational. It would depend on the situation. Synjyn (Days) is playing A-back mostly in practice, but he’ll still spend some time at quarterback depending on what you’re trying to do and what gives you the best chance. It’s hopeful that as we move along, [Lee] will progress himself to the point that you feel good about him in that situation, could possibly progress to the point where he’s playing all the time some. I don’t know that he will beat the other guy (Tevin Washington) out this year, but there could be a situation where , if he progresses and continues to get better, that we could play with both of them some.

My interpretation: Lee will be brought along slowly and may play in some games, but probably not all. If he continues to progress, he could possibly take up some of Washington’s snaps. I’m not sure what “all the time some” means. I took it as a malapropism.

My Anthony Harrell blog will be up next. (Kidding)

Start your parsing.

In case you missed it…

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Game story: Tech reforms Presbyterian

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

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chas_jacket

September 11th, 2012
2:34 pm

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
2:36 pm

Thanks Ken! And im first!

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
2:37 pm

Or….first runner up

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
2:38 pm

Congradulations Chas!

Ol'JacketFan

September 11th, 2012
2:40 pm

I think CPJ will bring Vad along quite nicely :-) CPJ knows what he seeing at practice and on video so he has the best feel of where Vad is in his progess. There is no doubt of the physical talent in this young man and I sit back to look forward to the memorable games he’s going to produce for the Yellow Jackets.

Ken Sugiura

September 11th, 2012
2:44 pm

well done, chas_jacket. sorry, michael. next time.

chas_jacket

September 11th, 2012
2:45 pm

Great comment about the backup qb being the most popular guy on the team. Really like the character of all three qbs, they all seem to be a credit to our school – PJ doesn’t need to worry about them getting in trouble on a Saturday night. Hopefully Tevin will mentor Vad along.

Also impressed with Harrell, don’t remember much about his recruitment though.

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
2:52 pm

Maybe so Ken, maybe so. I like Vad Lee’s potential for sure and i like Harrell’s size, we need size and athleticism on defense and i believe it is starting to take form, we’ll know more after the game.

juvenal

September 11th, 2012
2:55 pm

so if you need someone to fumble at the goal line?

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
3:03 pm

I was at the game juvenal(and will be again for the next few weeks) and Days looked surely down but the ball should not have been out. I am NO expert on football and i will leave the coaching to Paul Johnson since he’s been coaching longer then i’ve been alive, i have faith in him and Al Groh as well!

chas_jacket

September 11th, 2012
3:10 pm

Think there is no doubt that Days goal line fumble dropped him to the #3 spot .

I am assuming justin thomas will redshirt – anyone know anything to the contrary?

juvenal

September 11th, 2012
3:14 pm

Michael, sounds like you are no expert on finances, either…knock on Days has always been fumbleitis, 2 types of ball carriers, one clutches the ball for dear life when they feel contact, “better to have died as a small child”-i have been watching football longer than CPJ has lived, & i would hate to think i wasted all that time (& $) to just blindly believe what the coaches said, or i would not have queried a lot of what Boss Ross’ successor did(not that he had much success), blind loyalty is more the former…

WnE

September 11th, 2012
3:19 pm

The huge waste in all of this is Days.

He should be playing Strong Safety or Free safety, he has the size the physicality and the athleticism, he is being wasted at QB/AB because at QB his throwing is huge liability and at A-Backs he won’t get enough touches to justify wasting his size-speed combo at that position.

There’s a good reason that ALL of Days’ offers out of HS were at Safety EXCEPT for GT & Toledo!

This is more proof that CPJ doesn’t do a good job at evaluating players out of HS and then putting them in the right position on the depth chart where they can be most productive for GT FB.

Days is too good of an athlete for him to have have produced so little for GT FB, he’s in his 3rd yr. out of HS (RS-soph.) and has nothing other than mop-up duty.

juvenal

September 11th, 2012
3:20 pm

but not here to impress or quip, i appreciate Ken for asking the hardball Qs-i asked CPJ a Q at media day once, the look of contempt quite memorable, at least the press are treated with wariness, the role the professional media working with integrity have in getting real data for the public we can never appreciate enough…have missed a handful of home games since 1979…

Rew

September 11th, 2012
3:23 pm

What does malapropism mean?

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
3:34 pm

Wow!! juvenal, you have no idea who i am and yes, finances is a strong suit of mine. I am 31 years old and have built enough wealth in that time to never have to work again if i choose not to so i would consider my fleeting knowledge of economics and business to be at least above average.
Oh, and when i say wealth i am not talking about thin assests that will disappear in the coming economic crisis but that is a discussion for a different time.

chas_jacket

September 11th, 2012
3:34 pm

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FL Jacket

September 11th, 2012
3:46 pm

I just hope the way Vad is put into games is vastly different than the way Chan integrated Josh Nesbitt into the offense in 2007. It’s upsetting to think that he wasted a year of eligibility so that he could run a Wildcat formation in several games for a few series and, in addition to toting 53 carries, throw the ball 5-13 for 1 TD and 2 INT (including a horrible overthrow on that Thursday night game against VT). Hmmm, seems Josh Nesbitt’s 38% completion occurred in a more “traditional” offense as well…HAHA.

Vad needs reps running the regular offense, not specialty packages that are not going to help him be any more ready for taking the offense over in 2013.

Ken Sugiura

September 11th, 2012
3:47 pm

i think juvenal was poking fun at your handle.
chas_jacket – i suspect that you may be right about the depth chart, even if it’s unspoken. the thing with days’ fumble/non-fumble is that, yes, it probably should have been a touchdown, but, had it been on the 10-yard line, it would have been a fumble.
i don’t see a reason why thomas, barring a slew of injuries, would play this year. i asked johnson awhile ago if he could foresee a non-quarterbacking role for thomas this year and he was not behind it.
juvenal – with these questions, at least, charles odum of the associated press gets the credit.

FL Jacket

September 11th, 2012
3:51 pm

Ken,

If CPJ put Justin Thomas in to return kicks or play A-Back then why did he leave Bama to come to Tech, right? He’ll get his shot at QB and for that to make sense they need him to redshirt so he and Vad are in different years.

fuzzybee78

September 11th, 2012
3:51 pm

Wne, you and I agree at least on this. SDays needs to be playing every down. Does he help the team more as a hypothetical every down A or and every down Safety. He helps himself more at safety as far as potential NFL goes IMO, but as another AAllen at A back he may help Tech more there—

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
3:54 pm

You have a point Ken, i should not have been so defensive. It was my mistake juvenal, i apologize for being to serious. Now, who wants to sell some gold and silver??

Ramblin Man

September 11th, 2012
3:54 pm

I know I will regret this…. WnE do you have any first hand knowledge that he has not worked there or been asked?

chas_jacket

September 11th, 2012
3:58 pm

Thanks Ken. I had also assumed JT would red shirt since i had not heard coach mention his name until the above comments. Guess we will see if JT will be willing to play A back if Vad beats him out as the starting qb roll next year Would like to see his speed on the field somewhere but it’s probably a good thing to red shirt him – some of his comments seem to indicate a little immaturity – typical of an 18 year old though.

juvenal

September 11th, 2012
3:59 pm

Ken, the interest was there to put it in your blog, & i feel thankful you have addressed a few of my humble concerns…i do try to lighten these oft too serious discussions(i was either side of wNe!), Mike, & i’m sure coach d would have been better off with your advice…anybody that wikis my handle will see where i am coming from(sort of)

Ken Sugiura

September 11th, 2012
4:04 pm

malapropism: misuse of similar sounding words.
ironically, i used the word incorrectly, as what he said wasn’t really a malapropism. basically, it was an unintentional contradiction.

juvenal

September 11th, 2012
4:14 pm

sounded more like an oxymoron…

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crackbaby

September 11th, 2012
4:37 pm

Great post, Ken.

Paul Johnson is very insightful and generally tells you what he thinks (except for revealing info that would help the opponents). This quote is exceptional:

“The thing that’s remarkable, because of the position, the most popular guy on the team is always the backup quarterback Once Vad plays for a while, it’ll probably be Justin (Thomas). Everywhere I’ve coached, that’s just the way it is. Anthony Harrell went in at linebacker and knocked the snot out of some people and caused two fumbles and nobody’s wanting to know if he’s gong to play again.”

Vad Lee is going to be Georgia Tech’s starting QB, just not this season unless TW goes down.

tooltime432

September 11th, 2012
4:40 pm

I think what he meant was a full series instead of just a snap here and there

yeller bug

September 11th, 2012
4:45 pm

No comment is an oxymoron

crackbaby

September 11th, 2012
4:50 pm

@fuzzybee – just because some idiot keeps repeating himself doesn’t make him right.

Any talk about Days at safety is retarded. Tech’s defensive secondary is better and deeper than it has ever been. That’s EVER as in forever. Days would not see the field. Earlier talk of lack of depth at safety position is hogwash as 3 CBs could easily move to safety.

The single proponent of the Days at safety “whine-fest” on this blog is someone who has an established track record of using hindsight to discredit Paul Johnson whenever possible and in most cases slants the facts and is far too myopic to understand the complexities of a unique college football program.

crackbaby

September 11th, 2012
4:54 pm

Ken – This is off topic but have the Jackets committed to using a year of Gotsis eleigibility since he played in the Presbyterian game?

anyone who knows the rule please chime in.

Go Jackets!

yeller bug

September 11th, 2012
4:56 pm

@Michael Veli I thought we should be buying gold? Any free financial advice is welcomed.

I hope we see a few series with Vad in the game every game. He brings a different skill and yes he’s raw, but he’s also a playmaker—he scrambles as well as Days and throws well. I’m sorta in agreement with FL Jacket—-he needs to run plays from the offense, but if he excels from the pistol (as an example), then let him contribute where he best helps the team.

Good news and congrats to Harrell—we need headhunting LBs. Didn’t notice he was the one bringing the lumber on those caused fumbles. I think the talent on our D is getting stronger. Despite the opinion of other bloggers, I think the trend on our personnel is improving.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 11th, 2012
5:00 pm

I love the back and forth between Ken and juvenal on words. These blogs can be so educational…..LOL

yeller bug

September 11th, 2012
5:13 pm

@crackbaby: I too guffawed at WnE’s suggestion to move Days to DB. It’s true he was recruited for that spot by other teams, he played it in HS and he has the athletic ability to play there, but Days is still the number 2 QB or # 2.5 QB. He’s an offensive playmaker and that’s a higher value than a DB. As you pointed out, he wouldn’t start in our secondary. I guess we could have him as a utility player, playing everything—QB, A-back, special teams and DB in nickel packages, but how thin do you want to stretch him. Now, if he continues to put the ball on the ground, then move him next year, but I have confidence that he will do better with his ball handling in the future.

GT Lee

September 11th, 2012
5:27 pm

crackbaby, Gotsis cannot redshirt this season since he played in the Presby game. He can however, redshirt another year by simply not playing a down.

Jad

September 11th, 2012
5:28 pm

Any word on Francis Kallon? …the freshmen DE

Luv those Jackets

September 11th, 2012
5:37 pm

Jackets rule the world. We will not lose again and will beat the Mutts 45-0.
And our new helmets look so cute!
Gooooooo Jackets!

crackbaby

September 11th, 2012
5:45 pm

@yeller bug – No argument here. It IS important to point out that Days came to Tech for the opportunity to play QB and CPJ honored that commitment.

@GT Lee – Thanks for clarifying. Ken posted another blog at 3:50 that stated the same.

crackbaby

September 11th, 2012
5:45 pm

Kallon is a redshirt.

fuzzybee78

September 11th, 2012
5:50 pm

@Crackbaby and Yellar–
The point I believe we all agree on is that Days is moving to #3 QB going forward so it seems. Add JT in the mix come spring and he is still #3 at best. He’s to good an athlete not to be on the field.
Im not so sure about the debth at safety ie VT game. Who knows how good SD could be. Also, neither of us were privileged to the conversation between SD and his parents about his chance to play QB at GT. He may have gone elsewhere if not offered the opportunity? I dont have an axe to grind with CPJ decision making.

Yellar, I dont believe SD can practice both O and D, very few athletes can. Going forward from here the question is where will he do GT the most good. For this season its A back, the more the better IMO. Next year depends on who shakes out at A. Today, SD has the size and athletic ability to play safety in college and maybe on Sunday. Not sure he goes to the NFL as an RB. The good thing is, if he graduates, his future is bright either way:)

fuzzybee78

September 11th, 2012
5:56 pm

We have depth at defensive end ie Kallon is a RD, but not so much at NT so Gotis is playing I guess. I would love to have had Gotis RS as well but with Green as a not so huge backup this is a signal I think that the coaches want Gotis ready this year.

fuzzybee78

September 11th, 2012
5:57 pm

Kallon is a Red Shirt I meant

Michael Veli a.k.a Jim Donnan's financial advisor

September 11th, 2012
6:04 pm

Yeller bug: I think that with over 16 trillion in domestic and foreign debt and with inflation already among us in the form of higher gas prices, food prices, lower wages, etc. that an economic bombshell is a mathmatical cerainity and not just a possibillity. The big question is will it be deflation or inflation(i assume the latter unless foreign countries start investing in the dollar heavily which is unlikely in the SHORT term.) I believe in investing in gold and silver at this present time but keep in mind that they are just bubbles and have very little actual and functual worth outside of people buying for physcological reasons of comfort. I could go on and on but this is a football blog and out of respect i don’t want to bore you cats to sleep, may you and yours be blessed! One more thing, i am concerned for those who will be crushed becuase of this, it is sad.

Paul in NH

September 11th, 2012
6:49 pm

Inflation among us in the form of lower wages???

Now that’s something you would never read in Paul Samuelson’s books

Arob

September 11th, 2012
6:55 pm

Would love to see both days and lee on the field together. Against the “real” teams, it is sooooo obvious that our offense lacks the playmakers it needs to score enough. They have all departed and these two are sitting on the pine!! Hope they get in….

SeanMc

September 11th, 2012
7:08 pm

I know i might be getting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of myself but, Vad honestly has all the machanics and accuracy to be a great NFL QB. I predict him to go fairly high in the Draft whenever he declares and he will go high because of his success at GT in the coming years….write it down.

Jacket Time

September 11th, 2012
7:22 pm

Justin Thomas! Play Justin Thomas! We want Justin Thomas!

Jacket Time

September 11th, 2012
7:23 pm

Haha just kidding. Sorry for the sarcasm.