3 thoughts about Georgia Tech

Greetings-

This will be brief, as I’ve got a full day ahead and am already, not at all surprisingly, behind.

1. In the loss to Virginia Tech, no passes were completed to the Georgia Tech wide receivers. By my cursory count, I had four “targets” to wide receivers that were incomplete. If memory serves, I think only one of them had much of a chance, a deep ball from Tevin Washington to Jeremy Moore in the second quarter.

It’s just the second time in Paul Johnson’s tenure that that’s happened. (vs. Iowa in the Orange Bowl) There’s a pretty simple explanation for it, that being three wide receivers (Darren Waller, Jeff Greene and Moore) playing against experienced corners (Kyle Fuller and Antone Exum) and the protection wasn’t always the best. Stephen Hill would have come in handy.

That said, Tech will need to get the wide receivers involved, even on a very limited basis, to give the running game some more room and take pressure off the offense. While there is a certain aesthetic to a 20-play, 75-yard drive, it requires the offense to be precise for a longer duration. Monday, there was a Washington run for 22 yards and a pass to Orwin Smith for 20 and another to B.J. Bostic for 19. After that, the next longest play was 13 yards.

2. I saw this a lot on comments, so I won’t delve too deeply, but the defense’s performance was improved, excepting the last two possessions. The Tech media guide has a useful stat in it for which sports information director Dean Buchan deserves my thanks – point per possession. In some ways, it is as telling a statistic as there is. Last year, the defense averaged 2.17 points per possession, not including overtime. Monday, it was 1.42, which was better than all but two games (Maryland and Western Carolina) and tied with the Clemson game.

3. This is not exactly a daring opinion, but I think only time will tell what the Virginia Tech loss ultimately means. The Hokies may end up winning the ACC and the defense, as Hokies defensive coordinator Bud Foster believes, may prove to be one of the best ever in school history. In that light, a three-point loss in which the Jackets had offensive malfunctions, were without three defensive starters and yet were one play from winning in a night game at Lane Stadium doesn’t look so bad.

Perhaps Tech’s defense turns out to be solid, the offense gains some traction and the Jackets roll through Virginia, Maryland and the rest of the schedule.

Or it may well be that the flaws from Monday’s game – subpar performance by the offensive line and a nosedive by the defense in the fourth quarter – were but omens for a season in which losses are many.

Personally, I think it’s way too early to tell.

More later from Johnson’s news conference.

Thanks for reading.

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

371 comments Add your comment

FL Jacket

September 5th, 2012
9:49 am

Before people start bashing Tevin yet again, consider the following stat line that Denard Robinson of Michigan had against the Hokies in last year’s Sugar Bowl…

9-21, 117 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
13 rushes for 13 yards

This just in…the Hokies have a pretty good defense.

FL Jacket

September 5th, 2012
9:51 am

Ken…who owns the post-game news conference media? I haven’t been able to access it via ramblinwrecktube, ramblinwreck.com, or the GT Athletics podcast. Is there a delay in posting these, or are these owned by the fan pay sites…since that’s the only place I’ve seen it exist?

ATLJacket

September 5th, 2012
10:07 am

Interesting stat, Ken. Good to see the numbers backing up what I was seeing in the game; a defense that looks much improved and more capable of stopping the run.

juvenal

September 5th, 2012
10:09 am

FL-VT lost…#1-short cross overs like the a-backs used on the 2nd TD, safeties were in…#2, needed 1 more DB & LB…#3, i guess we will see Vad if Tevin gets hurt, like we only saw Tevin when Josh got hurt-got to be more flexible with who we use…good work, Ken…Tevin did better in the 2nd half till he(literally) threw the game away in the OT-but was he in pistol then?

Ken Sugiura

September 5th, 2012
10:10 am

FL Jacket – it belongs to whoever shoots it. often, probably more so for home games, the school records it and posts it on ramblinwreck.com, but that wasn’t the case Monday night.

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FL Jacket

September 5th, 2012
10:12 am

Ken, thanks. Do you envision KQ ever making it available at some point without joining his site? (I figure you have the ability to see him later and ask?)

NVAJacketsFan

September 5th, 2012
10:22 am

While I really do hope that the Jackets defense is greatly improved it was pointed out a few months ago on ESPN.com that the Hokie Pokies have one of the least experienced O-Lines in all of college football this season. The Tech front 7 should of dominated this game, they were going up against folks that were still trying to figure out what they were supposed to be doing.

bb

September 5th, 2012
10:27 am

Thanks for showing a little restrain. You could have taken Mark Bradley’s lead and decided the direction and personality (not to mention, writing the team off) based on one game. That one game being the first.

I get tired of the ‘fans’ that are already complaining about this team. They must not have watched the same game I did Monday. From what I saw, I am hopeful that this team is moving in the right direction. The defense seemed much better and I don’t think a tough game against a perennial top defense is enough to pronounce judgement on the offense. We really won’t know until the season is played out.

gt4ever

September 5th, 2012
10:31 am

Great article Ken,

Point 1. Our offense is going downhill at full speed. The lack of talent is increasing due to inept recruiting. I have said this over and over, we have a QB that would have problems starting for Georgia Southern. Pathetic.

Point 2. Our Defense is maybe a little better, but not anywhere close to good. A good defense does not let an average offense run down the field with 44 seconds left to tie the game. Same old same old.

Point 3. Our triple flop of an offense made their defense look good. Period..

www

September 5th, 2012
10:33 am

i agree with bb.

2012 could still be a very special season for GT and true fans are excited to see how things go this season.

Ken Sugiura

September 5th, 2012
10:34 am

i would doubt it, FL Jacket. i’ll ask.

HighTech

September 5th, 2012
10:34 am

All good points Ken. Enjoyed the trip to Blacksburg even though it didn’t end the way I wanted it to. We started celebrating too soon with 44 seconds left on the clock. It was a very good game even though the result was disappointing. The Georgia Tech section was loud, rocking, and didn’t sit down except for timeouts. I saw no fan apathy whatsoever from the Georgia Tech fans that made the trip. You have to give VPISU credit for making plays when they had to and GT for missing plays at the worst time. Although, if Tevin had not completed the pass on 4th down on the last offensive series, the outcome would have been the same except we would have left the stadium sooner.

It is interesting that one troll on here says Vad Lee is not QB material when this same troll was tweeting Vad during his recruitment and telling him he could fulfill his NFL dreams as a QB if he would sign with Minnesota or NC State instead of Tech.

www

September 5th, 2012
10:34 am

gt4ever is about as big a gt fan as the wne troll is. sad that these guys spend so much of their lives on the GT blogs.

GB's Hamburgers

September 5th, 2012
10:34 am

I believe the glass is half full here. It’s another demonstration of what could be done if Tech got a few more 4 star athletes.

George Stein

September 5th, 2012
10:37 am

People were clamoring for a shorter passing game, and they got it. The deep ball has to hit twice a game to make the offense work. Period.

As for the defense, they played well. I will never understand why DCs change their strategery in the last moments of a game. The soft zone we played on their last drive killed us. They looked much improved, though.

As Johnson said last year, let’s not bury this team just yet.

gt4ever

September 5th, 2012
10:49 am

@www

I go back to the mid to late 50’s with GT. I have sweat on the field at Bobby Dodd. I have faithfully supported this program with time and money… You can call me what you like, www, but I choose not to watch this program self destruct.

WnE, someone I don’t regularly agree with, makes some very good points. I would be a complete idiot to just discount them as some UGA troll…

Have a good day…

dawgfan

September 5th, 2012
10:51 am

I agree Ken. Its way too early to tell how many moral victories Georgia Tech will notch this year. We’ll have to sit back and see what excuses and rationalizations Tech fans come up with as the season progresses. While their rhetoric is often very tired and predictable, they’ve been known to throw a few curve balls here and there. That’s why they play the games I suppose.

Thanks.

FL Jacket

September 5th, 2012
10:55 am

“You can call me what you like, www, but I choose not to watch this program self destruct. ”

gt4ever…SELF-DESTRUCT???

Are you kidding me? Randy Edsall runs off just about ALL of his upper-classmen after replacing the sitting ACC Coach of the Year, and shows a 2-10 record for all his troubles. Yet we play an extremely competitive game against possibly the best team in the ACC at their place, almost win, and our program is self-destructing because our coach chooses to run a different type of offense?

Trolling can also be described as heaping unrealistic expectations or criticisms at a team for no other purpose than to get a response from the people that actually do care. And so while I’ve fallen for the bait, if you do intend to “choose no to watch” I suggest you steer clear of people that do.

ahsoisee

September 5th, 2012
11:00 am

It is not an omen, it is a given fact that GT has been extremely soft against the passing game for the past three years (including this one). The trend has been set for some time now. On 3rd and long, it is imperative that you rush the passer and the pass defenders come up and get between the receivers and the quarterback. You are placing odds that you can either intercept the ball or get to the QB before he can find a good target. Since the QB is looking for just enough yards for a first down, it is worth the odds to play the receivers tight and between them and the QB.

ahsoisee

FS

September 5th, 2012
11:10 am

I believe that our record in the last 8 games is 2 wins, 6 losses. Are we really heading in the right direction? The goal of playing the game is to win not to get close.

My concerns are the stubborness with the audience. The B backs can not get free so why run that play over and over again with no success. Why try to consistently throw the ball to an undersize (height) running back versus your tall receivers. Force the ball to our tall receivers to let them make a play. Nesbitt did that with B-bay.

So, it’s looking at current reality and being really concerned.

TechFanForever

September 5th, 2012
11:16 am

There are those who react to headlines and those who respond to trend lines. I am a believer in CPJ.

1. VA Tech has what most observers believe as their best D in many years.
2. GA Tech has potentially an improved D, finally.
3. UGA lost their opening 2 games last year then went on a 10 game winning streak and every body thought they hung the moon with 10 in a row.
4. GA Tech, surrounded by UGA, Clemson, SC, FL, AU, AL, and TN will NEVER out recruit these schools for various reasons. Beating these schools on talent will be impossible. Coach’s that have been nationally successful at Tech, took full advantage of long honeymoon periods (lower expectations), red shirted, stock piled and then had a peak years (ie Bobby Ross). Then Tech becomes depleted and the cycle continues. CPJ coaching ability and scheme gives us a chance with less talent, pure and simple.
5. I believe it is time for us Tech fans to see Vad Lee on the field. Hopefully against Presbyterian, we will see him.

GA Tech

realist

September 5th, 2012
11:20 am

The issue for me isn’t one game, it is the pattern since the end of 2009.

Since and including the UGA game in 2009, we are 0-11 in games against UGA, VT, MIA, and bowls.

This says to me that we have not been able to replace the talent from 2008-2009 with our recruiting.

I haven’t seen signs (yet) that we are making any progress there although there may be guys sitting on the bench who could make a difference.

GT Lee

September 5th, 2012
11:27 am

gt4ever. you are a whiny little puzzy of a fan. I’ll be at the Presby game with Supersize if you want me to say it to your face.

jackets

September 5th, 2012
11:30 am

Expanding on FL Jacket’s observation concerning VT’s defense.

Denard Robinson vs VT in Sugar Bowl
9-21, 117 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
13 rushes for 13 yards

Denard Robinson vs Bama on Sat
11-26, 200 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT
10 rushes, 27 yards, 1 TD

VT’s defense is comparable to the vaunted king of the SEC. Could make an argument either way for which one contained Denard better.

yellowjacket

September 5th, 2012
11:30 am

If they improve their passing game they will be dangerous this year. Also the secondary needs to improve. Not calling any names but their were numerous times where the corner was burnt and a lot of missed tackles. Also I think Bostic played a great game. He should get more touches.

yellowjacket

September 5th, 2012
11:31 am

5150 UOAD

September 5th, 2012
11:32 am

POAD Fan dwagfan

5150 UOAD

September 5th, 2012
11:35 am

I’m so mad i bought a UGa sweatshirt.

Well it is to wipe my butt with and mail pieces to WnE, dwagfan and a few well known GTcrying fans. You know who you are.

TechApp fan

September 5th, 2012
11:38 am

Can some expert tell me how many times Tech actually ran the option and how many times the B back got the ball on a predetermined call?

Can anyone explain that timeout call at the end of the first half? What was the intent? Did someone actually think Tech would hold (with 2 seconds) and possibly force a punt (with magic results like a return for a TD?)

Can anyone explain why a coach would not punt from his own end of the field and consided (tried actually) punting with three min left in the game (while behind in the score)? Coach is like a sine wave.

collegeballfan

September 5th, 2012
11:38 am

Usually the team with the best players wins. VT had better players than GT based on the numbers thrown around by the recruiting services. So far this recruiting season the commitments of VT are rated higher than those of GT based just on the numbers by the recruiting services.

GT has a difficult time with UGA because UGA recruits better players. Until that changes GT will only beat UGA on rare occasions. I have no idea why this is the case. It has not always been the case but has been since Richt has been at UGA.

So the question on the table is why does GT not recruit as well as VT, UGA and others?

pine

September 5th, 2012
11:39 am

Let’s keep it real. TW did not throw the game awy. VT scored on its last 3 possessions. They went ahead 14-10 after two long pass plays against the DEFENSE. TW marched GT down the field and converted on 2 third down plays and 1 fourth down play and then the go ahead TD with 44 seconds to go. Most DEFENSES can handle 44 seconds but the GT defense allowed VT to march down the field and tie the game…then, TW throws interception. Game over??? No!!! just play good DEFENSE and force a long field goal, but two plays later against the DEFENSE VT is on our 1 yard line.The final three VT drives were on the DEFENSEnot TW. Lay off the kid. He put us in position to win. the DEFENSE collapsed pure and simple.

GTman

September 5th, 2012
11:40 am

Defense much better. The secondary got burned twice on the TD passes by peeking into the backfield and losing touch with their receivers. Tackling was much better except for the missed tackle at the end of regulaion.

Offense will be fine. VT has a great defense and GT needs to schedule a weak team for the first game. Our offense is too complex – timing, mesh, reads, etc. to play a strong defense the first game.

Special teams looked much better.

I still think we can go 9-3 plus a win in a bowl game.

Ken Sugiura

September 5th, 2012
11:42 am

come on. we can disagree and not act like juveniles (as opposed to juvenal).
enough with the name calling.

sean jones

September 5th, 2012
11:46 am

total choke out by “NO SHOW” Groh. When the game is on the line he always chokes out

sean jones

September 5th, 2012
11:47 am

our talent level is not good. O Smith is the only playmaker we have. Our other starters look undersized and slow

sean jones

September 5th, 2012
11:51 am

Tevin doesnt have the speed to run the triple option and the o-line is not near as good and physical as everyone thought. CPJ’s days as head ball coach could be numbered cause the talent is simply not there

BigTimeTECHFan

September 5th, 2012
11:56 am

I agree Ken, I can handle a loss to a very good team on the road. All is not lost.
We are still in the hunt.

Bostic looked real good
J Hunt-Days played real nice
Special Teams did good
Defense did real good
OL ok when Shaq and Uzzi are on the field at same time.
Perkins looked good then no carries after 1st series, what was up with that. Lasky and Sims didn’t look any better yet they kept playing

S Day looked real good his one play, one mised block rom taking it to the house, made play look so easy, yet TW make every play look so hard

Silly mutts

September 5th, 2012
11:57 am

Delusional is what most people see in PJ. It appears most of you accept mediocrity and underachievement. Enjoy losing the next 30 games to VT UM UGA bowl games and many others.. The gt football program smells like hot garbage.

5150 UOAD

September 5th, 2012
11:57 am

NO Fred & no Louis for PC blue hose.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 5th, 2012
11:59 am

Tevin played a pretty good game. He didn’t keep calling dive plays and long passes. We should have made VT’s big D lineman run some to wear them down instead of running right at them. Tevin is mature and has a cool head. He made a bad throw that he said he was trying to throw out of bounds.

www

September 5th, 2012
12:00 pm

gt4ever, i’ll accept your word that you’re truly a tech fan.

everyone is entitled to their opinion.

i disagree with you on CPJ killing this program but i think this season will define his legacy.

a tough loss to a great VT defense doesn’t ruin this season by any means.

Silly mutts

September 5th, 2012
12:00 pm

@gt man….win a bowl game? Maybe against ark state! What a joke! Delusional!

FL Jacket

September 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

Trolls gonna troll…

www

September 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

and nice job on keeping tech fans informed and up-to-date so far, ken. appreciate the hard work.

Silly mutts

September 5th, 2012
12:03 pm

Www you are right! Pj already “killed” the program!!!

Sissy Dawg

September 5th, 2012
12:04 pm

GTBob

September 5th, 2012
12:04 pm

So the question on the table is why does GT not recruit as well as VT, UGA and others?

There are many reasons for this and none of them are going to change. I have this argument with GT fans and non GT fans a lot. GT is never ever going to recruit anywhere near the same level as UGA and usually won’t get close to a team like VT either. Accept it and be happy that we can still somewhat compete or live in agony waiting for GT to turn into football factory which will never happen.

Silly mutts

September 5th, 2012
12:04 pm

Morons gonna be morons!

OldSchoolTechFanatic

September 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

The D was much improved !!!