Tech’s Orwin Smith seeks pinnacle

Orwin Smith’s personal goal for the season is flavored with boldness and hints of audacity.

The Georgia Tech A-back wants to lead the country in all-purpose yardage, which would require him to assemble one of the greatest seasons in school history. Smith, whose chiseled 6-foot-0, 205-pound frame contains ample boldness, is game.

“I thought all-purpose was something that was unique,” he said. “(I) haven’t really heard anyone set it as a goal before, so that’s kind of how it came.”

Whether he achieves it or not, Smith has placed himself in position to make an earnest attempt. He is running without problems after surgery to repair turf toe. He has an experienced offensive line to open alleys and a familiar quarterback to deliver the ball, both on option pitches and in the passing game. His likely A-back partner is a sound blocker.

Smith said he wanted a goal “that’s going to take hard work (but) I feel like I can still reach it at the same time.”

Tech’s most dynamic ball carrier, Smith is reaching into the statistical stratosphere. Recent NCAA all-purpose yardage kings have averaged around 200 yards per game. Last season, Smith led the Yellow Jackets with 106.1 yards, split up among rushing (51.2), receiving (25.5) and kickoff return (29.3). Eddie Lee Ivery, Tech’s single-season record holder for all-purpose yardage, averaged 170.8 yards per game in 1978.

“I have no problem with him setting big goals, as long as he understands that, with that comes responsibility, and that’s what I expect from him every day,” A-backs coach Lamar Owens said.

Tech’s offense complicates Smith’s pursuit. While Smith’s speed and explosiveness make him a logical candidate to rack up carries, Tech’s option-based spread offense can’t be effective by repeatedly giving him the ball. A defense determined to keep Smith from receiving option pitches can do so by sending defenders at him. And, while the offense includes plays that can get him the ball on direct handoffs and passes, an overemphasis on getting the ball in Smith’s hands could unbalance the offense.

Finding Smith’s maximum utility would seem to require a delicate touch.

As coach Paul Johnson is fond of saying to those who gape at Smith’s career 9.7 yards-per-carry average and call for him to get the ball more, “The guy’s not going to average 10 yards a carry if you hand him the ball 40 times, I promise you. We’ve got to find ways to utilize him in the system.”

Smith’s productivity will also depend upon how much B-back David Sims can draw heat, how accurately quarterback Tevin Washington can deliver him the ball, how well A-backs like Robbie Godhigh and Deon Hill and the wide receivers can block downfield.

“It’s going to take an entire team effort for us to be successful offensively for him to even have a shot at that,” Owens said.

Smith is not obsessed by the goal. As defenses will devote attention to him, Smith figures he can be an excellent decoy. In fall camp, he focused on improving his blocking – a weakness. But it isn’t for Smith’s knack for baiting defenses that Smith is featured on billboards around metro Atlanta, an honor that led Sims to campaign for a change Smith’s nickname from “Big O” to “Billboard O.” Within Tech’s pursuit of an ACC title, Smith wants to deliver.

Smith trained furiously over the summer, adding pool workouts, yoga and exercise with resistance bands to the daily team training sessions. (Parts of it can be seen on a Youtube video Smith made with former Jacket Elris Anyaibe, titled “How Bad Do You Want It?”)

The only player in Tech history in gain 100 yards rushing and receiving in the same game (Kansas last season) and the holder of the highest career yards-per-carry average (9.7) of any ACC player with 1,000 rushing yards won’t get the ball 40 times a game. But he’ll get it enough.

“Last year, I didn’t end like I started, so I’m really eager to start off like last year again and just keep it going this year,” he said. “It’s my last year, and I want to make it my best.”

In case you missed it:

T.J. Barnes kicking it into gear

Wednesday’s practice notes: Days to play ’somewhere’ for Tech against Hokies

Smith goes for 265 yards against Kansas

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

143 comments Add your comment

Dawgs

August 23rd, 2012
7:38 pm

Yall better worry about finding a way to beat VT or its another down hill 7-6 season that will await you Tech bunch…

BTW First..

billyho55

August 23rd, 2012
7:40 pm

ORWIN IS IN FOR A HUGE SEASON! ON ANOTHER NOTE THOUGH, KEN, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN HEARING ABOUT MR. KALLON? WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK AND UPDATES!!

Dawgs

August 23rd, 2012
7:40 pm

Never understood why the talk of UVA and Dah U! when VT always seems to hand you your head on a silver plater…..

Yall folk need to be discussing beating VT some kind of way…

billyho55

August 23rd, 2012
7:41 pm

DARN, I WASN’T FIRST! MY PARENTS WOULD OF BEEN SOOO PROUD!!

Dawgs

August 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm

Kallon???? You mean Frances???May not see him for a VERY long time Sr year maybe?…. CPJ does NOT know how to recruit DL men…Gotta hand it to him his OL is Crucial wish ours was as good as yalls. But we all know you win games on D!!

wes

August 23rd, 2012
7:56 pm

Sound advice “Dawgs”. Are you a rocket surgeon?

Ol'JacketFan

August 23rd, 2012
8:05 pm

I love O.Smith’s ability and if he gets 15-18 touches a games he is capable of putting up some big numbers! His vision and size are plusses along with his ability to make people miss allow him to be capable to taking it to the house every time he touches the ball. Big plays come with a total team effort and I look forward to seeing a total team effort each time out!

Go Jackets!

Tokyo jacket

August 23rd, 2012
8:12 pm

Dawgs, I’m happy to talk about VT. I’ll be making the drive there in 11 days. I think their 4 new offensive linemen, new RB, and two new WRs that are replacing four 5th year seniors on the line, the school’s all time top 2 WRs, and the ACC player of the year will have some serious growing up to do. I was up in Blacksburg when Calvin Johnson ran roughshod all over VT. It’s going to happen again. VT’s strength is their fast but small defense. When that defense is on the field for 18 minutes in the first half because their O goes three and out so much, they won’t be able to catch up to the likes of Smith, Simms, Snoddy and Days in the second half. Look for GT to be up 10-3 at the half with a final score of 31-17, GT. GT closes the game with an 8-minute plus death march. If this team is 2-0, there’s no reason they shouldn’t go 5-0 heading into Clemson.

Tokyo jacket

August 23rd, 2012
8:13 pm

This offensive line can buy us time and space against VT’s fast d-line. A half second is the difference between a throw away or interception and a 25 yard gain in this offense. GT is going to surprise a lot of people this year, and we’re going to start in prime time on Monday night!

Dawg48

August 23rd, 2012
8:20 pm

Dawgs, get a life! Do you not have anything better to do with your life than troll the GT blog?

BLT

August 23rd, 2012
8:27 pm

Dawgs, does not understand the headlines to Ken’s write ups. Bless his heart. FYI- this one is primarily about Orwin Smith. For future reference read the “Headline” to the story first, then read the article. I promise it will help you. Then you can post just about anything you want. OR, like most you can skip all that and start trashing Tech without having a clue what the story is about. Thanks for participating.

chas_jacket

August 23rd, 2012
8:31 pm

love your optimism Tokyo Jacket. Hope the game and early season pans out as you see it.

billyho55 – I am also curious about Sir Francis – I thought he would be the one foregoing a redshirt – but it seems like Gotsis is the one who may play this year. This is actually good news as Kallon will be a great one regardless. Evidently Gotsis was impressive during camp – can’t wait to see him on the field.

BLT

August 23rd, 2012
8:33 pm

wes, he’s a rocket surgeon or a tank paratrooper.

BigTimeTECHFan

August 23rd, 2012
8:34 pm

I can’t make the call on the VT game, I’m still in the anything can happen mode. Some ways I feel Tech is in good shape then other times I’m not sure, About Va Tech, lots of respect for them, good team thatcould be real good team

BigTimeTECHFan

August 23rd, 2012
8:35 pm

I think Smith will be NFL back

OldSchoolTechFanatic

August 23rd, 2012
8:44 pm

Orwin can get the job done, he may not be the best back GT has ever had but he is Awesome with a capital A baby !!!

ToeMeetsLeather

August 23rd, 2012
9:25 pm

Hopefully “Billboard-O” will have as many receiving yards as he does rushing. Numerous 15-20 yard quick hitters would add up in a hurry. Due to the risk of injury, I’m not sure I want to see Orwin returning punts and kick-offs though. 9/3!

Long Beach Jacket

August 23rd, 2012
9:27 pm

Orwin Smith is a really good player and, no doubt, his injury diminished his performance greatly after a fantastic start last year. I look for him to have a fantastic season and whatever his final yardage total (all categories) I expect him to be a major playmaker in EVERY contest. If other teams overcompensate to defend against him, it will pay dividends elsewhere in the offensive attack for the Jackets. Good luck Orwin! Go Jackets…

Add note – I suspect he’ll generate some NFL inerest due to his versatility. Run, return kicks etc.
I’m surely no Mel Kiper/Todd McShay but I’d project him as a possible late round pick (say 5th to 7th round) at this point with a possibility to move up on some draft boards if he has a monster year.

www

August 23rd, 2012
9:28 pm

orwin smith may not lead the nation in all purpose yardage but he can rank in the top 10, imo.

more importantly, he can be a huge part of a great season for tech in 2012.

and i agree with bigtimetechfan, i think orwin can play in the league.

dawghater1

August 23rd, 2012
9:30 pm

dawgs – you lick gnat butter

Ken Sugiura

August 23rd, 2012
9:47 pm

billyho55 – it appears he’ll redshirt.
Dawgs – if you’re just here to talk trash, i’ll ask you to stop posting. thanks.

gt40pinhd

August 23rd, 2012
9:59 pm

the most important part of this article is that smith wants to finish the
season as well as he starts. a great goal, i wish him luck. he will need
to focus and have help.

fuzzybee78

August 23rd, 2012
10:33 pm

I really appreciate Orwin setting a real measurable goal, even a stretch. So many guys give you the standard “help the team win” and thats OK but who doesnt and you’re guaranteed not to fail.

I guarantee you will see measurable goals when you “go pro in something other than athletics” .

Dawgs

August 23rd, 2012
11:06 pm

Aint no troll just statin fact here buds… Can’t wait till thanksgiving this year LOL..

1 4 GT

August 23rd, 2012
11:19 pm

Yeah Dawgs—-your version of the facts. It’s entirely possible you won’t enjoy your Thanksgiving weekend as much as you think. BTW, if you’re not a troll, you don’t have to deny it. Real facts speak for themselves. If it waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck & smells like a duck, it MUST be a duck. Selah!!

Island Jacket

August 23rd, 2012
11:31 pm

Dawgs… Don’t you guys at the Athens Correctional Institute have a DIII School to get ready for… Go talk about your cupcake season.

I like the fact that Orwin is making big goals for himself.

OkieDawg

August 23rd, 2012
11:42 pm

“As coach Paul Johnson is fond of saying to those who gape at Smith’s career 9.7 yards-per-carry average and call for him to get the ball more, “The guy’s not going to average 10 yards a carry if you hand him the ball 40 times, I promise you.”

Gotta love him…He is condescending to the GT masses and they don’t even realize it…they just wait for the next invite to a fish fry. INCREDIBLE

1 4 GT

August 23rd, 2012
11:57 pm

I purely hate folks that are constantly negative. Take it somewhere else leg humping, butt sniffing, nad licking troll.

Bama Boy

August 24th, 2012
4:41 am

Hey Dawgs I cant wait till we get ahold of ya’ll,finally let the puppies squeel !
Yep Smith is one of the better backs in the whole SE!

Holey Smoak

August 24th, 2012
5:24 am

The DWAGS better worry about making it through the season with at least a half roster…arrests, drugs, male prostitution….nothing like being a Bullchit DWAG!!!

Wal-Mart Retards

August 24th, 2012
5:28 am

Orwin Smith > uga

hoodoo

August 24th, 2012
8:16 am

you would need about 5 orwins on offense to beat vt.
27-17 vt is the final score.

gt45

August 24th, 2012
8:19 am

I wish you nothing but the best, O. Good luck!

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
8:38 am

Dwags,
Oh man, you make this too easy. I am going to type slowly and use small words so you can understand this. I noticed that many of the other UGA trolls on here (like WnE and Headley) have a problem with this as well, so maybe they can learn something. A FACT is defined as something that can be demonstrably proven through observation and experience. SO, saying that GT is going to lose to VT and be 7-6, THAT’S NOT A FACT! That is what is known as your opinion.

Gr8 2B aFuzzyB

August 24th, 2012
8:38 am

Good luck to O in his quest. I think he may surprise with receiving yards and might just be Tevin’s primary target. Ken – what’s the record for receiving yards for a back? O may have a shot for the all purpose record if Tevin gets him the ball on a more regular basis via the pass.

hoodoo

August 24th, 2012
8:41 am

really 2012? 6/8 sure looks proven. keep dreaming that u have a chance to beat vt when the FACTS show almost a certain loss.

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
8:42 am

Also, if you state something as a FACT, such as “the GT DL is undersized” (WnE), but then someone comes a long and shows that actually the GT DL is very similar in size to others (including NFL teams) that run the 3-4, then you are actually either WRONG or and LIAR!

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
8:44 am

hoodoo,
Clearly, you are one that needs help with basic statistics. So if I tell you that something happens 25% of the time, then you are CERTAIN its not going to happen. Let me get you a revolver with 8 chambers and two bullets and let you play a little russian roulette.

dawgfan

August 24th, 2012
9:07 am

“Smith’s productivity will also depend upon how much B-back David Sims can draw heat, how accurately quarterback Tevin Washington can deliver him the ball, how well A-backs like Robbie Godhigh and Deon Hill and the wide receivers can block downfield.”

Wow. Sounds like there’s a lot of different moving parts there. As I’ve said before, I question the wisdom of an offense that requires so many different things to fall in to place to be successful (And for the record, I have a similar criticism of Mike Bobo). I think it leads to inconsistency. That’s why Tech might light the world on fire one week against maybe a Duke and then go MIA against a Miami or UGA. In a word, keep it simple stupid.

Thanks.

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
9:14 am

Hoodoo and others do not base their statements on any facts that can guarantee an outome. They are not even expressing an original opinion. They are merely prognosticating (future telling) about what they expect (or hope) the outcome to be. They might as well be sitting in front of an apple crate in Jackson square (New Orleans) with their deck of cards. At least that’s entertainment.

Under their logic, UGA should never have lost to KY or Vandy and UGA certainly should not have beaten UF, ever. Michigan should never have lost to Ap State. VT should not have lost to East Carolina.

I find it kind of funny that they expect some sort or retort about predicting a 27-17 GT loss when Las Vegas has the line at 7.5. Are we really supposed to find offense in that and treat them as “smart”?

Why they feel the need to post here with nothing more enlightening than to restate Vegas’ position, I cannot begin to understand unless they have some sort of deep seated psycholgical reasons or physical shortcomings they are trying to compensate for.

Baltisraul

August 24th, 2012
9:15 am

Dawgs……..take the day off. You are getting it handed to you this morning! Come back strong tomorrow.

go42

August 24th, 2012
9:16 am

Really looking forward to the opener. Big game. Big Test. I’ve been focused on the Btaves late season run so I’m a little nervous but the game sits squarely on the coaching staff’s shoulders. Will they have the team ready for a HUGE game to start the season? We’ll see.

go42

August 24th, 2012
9:17 am

Really looking forward to the opener. Big game. Big Test. I’ve been focused on the Braves late season run so I’m a little nervous but the game sits squarely on the coaching staff’s shoulders. Will they have the team ready for a HUGE game to start the season? We’ll see.

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
9:22 am

Dawgfan – How is that statement unique to GT’s offense? Or to any other offense for that matter.

Effective passing opens up the running game in any offense and visa versa. A balanced team will always have more success. I am not saying it has to be 50/50, but there is a range that gos either way depending on that particular offense’s focus.

Every offense relies on blockers, whether they be offensive linemen, receivers or other running backs.

I don’t get your comment, appears either naive or just completely moronic. If you want to talk about moving pieces, try watching Oregon. That being said, every offense must execute, period. The most complex part of this offense is the read made by the quarterback (mental), every thing else is physical execution, just like every other offense.

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
9:26 am

That might be a fair criticism, dawgfan, but I don’t know how it gets addressed.

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
9:30 am

Dawgfan, just to make a point, Fictitious quarterback Q’s success with be determined by how well running back RB does (to take focus off the passing game) and how well receivers WR1, WR2 and TE run their routes and catch the ball as well as how effective his linemanm TE and RB block. Boy, sure sounds like a lot of moving parts for that fictitious offense to be successful.

Nice try though for a DAWG. I certainly hope you not an alumnus. My wife is one and I know she is smarter than that, much smarter.

dawgfan

August 24th, 2012
9:49 am

“A balanced team will always have more success.”

And your offense isn’t that balanced so there you go. Alot of work on timing and scheming has to be put in to an offense that at the end of the day is not that complex. Its not very efficient. I’m not sure all that work is worth it. Most teams are probably light years ahead of you in their preparations right now. Your defense also struggles because of your offense. They aren’t prepared for the offenses they see on Saturday. That’s obvious. Even if you do get all the reads and timing down like clockwork your offense is still rather predictable. You’d be better off with a more traditional offense which is more balanced and doesn’t require the type of laser precision required of the triple option to be successful. Its neat to talk about and gets you a little media attention, but it hasn’t been getting you too many W’s lately.

I love watching Oregon by the way. Probably my favorite team out west, but how’d they do against Auburn? They couldn’t block Fairley and it blew up EVERYTHING. One guy wouldn’t be able to wreak that much havoc against a more traditional offense. Despite the championship, Auburn’s defense struggled that year against the more traditional offenses of the SEC. Then they play Oregon and its fancy offense and they look like world beaters. Go figure.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
10:03 am

“That’s why Tech might light the world on fire one week against maybe a Duke and then go MIA against a Miami or UGA. In a word, keep it simple stupid”

dwagfan…I’ve done the research. The reason Tech lights the world on fire one week and then sputters the next against Miami has more to do with the quality of Miami’s run defense. Expecting any offense to fire on all cylinder week-in week-out is asking a lot, especially against superior defenses…the TO is no different.

There were several games lost because of the defense’s inability to stop the opponent (VPI, Utah) as much as the offense sputtering.

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
10:10 am

Dwagfan,
wait, I’m confused. Are you saying our offense is too complex and requires too many moving parts to be consistently successful. Or are you saying its not complex enough and defenses have “figured it out”. Because that doesn’t make sense. There are a lot of nuances that make CPJ’s offense successful. The base plays appear simple, but there are many variations off of them, which can keep the defense on its toes. And I would say that winning 33 games in four years of running this offense is quite a few wins.

dawgfan

August 24th, 2012
10:12 am

“Expecting any offense to fire on all cylinder week-in week-out is asking a lot”

Its asking even more when you run the triple option. That’s my point.

Anyway, I didn’t expect us to agree on this. I know you think Paul Johnson wakes up in the morning and farts excellence. I’ve rarely seen a fan base so in love with its coach before and I like to have a little fun with it. Whatever Tech’s problems are it never ever has anything to do with the head honcho that is running the program. You’ll blame the players, the refs, the assistant coaches, the ball boys. Everyone except Paul Johnson. Its just funny to me. That’s all. I think its really holding Tech football back and I’m enjoying every minute of it. Keep up the good work.

Thanks.

BartBuzz

August 24th, 2012
10:12 am

I hate to be negative…but Dawgs can KMA.

Burdell

August 24th, 2012
10:17 am

How can a high school offense be so complex?

Tech Man

August 24th, 2012
10:19 am

dawgfan:

“Despite the championship, Auburn’s defense struggled that year against the more traditional offenses of the SEC.”

How did they do against y’all? If I recall correctly, y’all jumped out to a big lead in the first quarter, then got more or less shut down for the final 3 quarters. Fairley was blowing up offensive lines all year long, not just Oregon’s. Didn’t Murry get triple suplex’d by that guy?

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
10:19 am

“Everyone except Paul Johnson. Its just funny to me. That’s all. I think its really holding Tech football back and I’m enjoying every minute of it. Keep up the good work.”

He’s holding us back by averaging more wins per year (8.5 per year) than his predecessor CCG (7 per year)?

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
10:25 am

If the Tech offense is so simple, how come most people can’t explain a load option?

I’m not trying to be difficult, dawgfan, but how do you know where we are versus other teams in terms of our rate of progress in preparation? How do you know our offense damages our defense? All offenses (and defenses, for that matter) require precision.

As for Oregon, Auburn’s offense (the same one that ran roughshod over all those vaunted SEC defenses, so maybe – just maybe – there is another issue at play. Perhaps it has something to do with the five weeks between games, but I don’t know.

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
10:28 am

Sorry, I screwed up the parenthetical in my last comment. I intended to say that Auburn’s offense couldn’t do jack against Oregon, either, so there may have been other issues at play.

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
10:33 am

” I know you think Paul Johnson wakes up in the morning and farts excellence.”

This coming from a moron who complains about middle-school toilet humor. What a hypocrite.

Paul in NH

August 24th, 2012
10:40 am

“I love watching Oregon by the way. Probably my favorite team out west, but how’d they do against Auburn? They couldn’t block Fairley and it blew up EVERYTHING. One guy wouldn’t be able to wreak that much havoc against a more traditional offense.”

Yep – Fairley did nothing agains UGA.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
10:43 am

“One guy wouldn’t be able to wreak that much havoc against a more traditional offense.””

I also recall one Shaun Cody completely stuffing the middle in Athens at the infamous “Blackout” game…

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
10:43 am

“One guy wouldn’t be able to wreak that much havoc against a more traditional offense.”

dwagfan you moron, you forgot to tell that to Ndamukong Suh and Oklahoma.

juvenal

August 24th, 2012
10:44 am

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
10:45 am

Paul…how’s it going? Where’s Dempsey going to end up? Liverpool? Arsenal? ManCity? Toffies?

If this hubub all along has been playing for a CL team, I don’t see the advantage of leaving Fulham’s side to go to Everton’s side. With RVP going to Old Trafford, Arsenal seems like the best fit now. It will be interesting to see with Aguero’s injury, if he’s an option there…

WnE

August 24th, 2012
10:56 am

re:
GTfan2012
August 24th, 2012
10:10 am

Dwagfan,
wait, I’m confused. Are you saying our offense is too complex and requires too many moving parts to be consistently successful. Or are you saying its not complex enough and defenses have “figured it out”. Because that doesn’t make sense. There are a lot of nuances that make CPJ’s offense successful. The base plays appear simple, but there are many variations off of them, which can keep the defense on its toes. And I would say that winning 33 games in four years of running this offense is quite a few wins.
____________

The 34 wins in 4 years came vs. weak schedules.

The last 2 yrs. we were 14-12 vs. the 76th & 69th toughest schedules.

That is a poor job by CPJ no matter how you slice it.

14 wins in 2 yrs is very Chan-esque, but as long as CPJ talks tough then GT Fans like you are mesmerized.

I don’t fall for tough talk on radio call-in shows with Wes, I look at results on the field, and as CPJ’s Recruits have populated the depth chart we have gotten noticeably worse.

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
10:58 am

^ Please Ignore The Barkjng Dwag Troll ^

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
10:58 am

that’s Barking……another drillbit thru the finger

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
11:07 am

14-12 over two seasons is also very Mark Richt-esque, you clown. I’m no genius, but your darling’s record in 2000 (8-5) and 2010 (6-7) totals to 14-12. And then they won ten games last year. How’d that happen, Einstein?

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
11:08 am

WnE

August 24th, 2012
11:30 am

re:
George Stein
August 24th, 2012
11:07 am

14-12 over two seasons is also very Mark Richt-esque, you clown. I’m no genius, but your darling’s record in 2000 (8-5) and 2010 (6-7) totals to 14-12. And then they won ten games last year. How’d that happen, Einstein?
___________

I’m not a UGA fan, but they have played much tougher schedules and compete in a much tougher conference,and despite all that UGA fans are NOT applauding CMR’s 34 wins in 4 yrs. like GT is for CPJ.

Many UGA fans want CMR fired, while CPJ is beloved for getting fat on crappy opposition.

BTW, CMR’s 14-12 came vs. the 7th toughest schedule in 09 & the 36th toughest schedule in 10, his 10-4 came vs. the 23rd toughest schedule last season.

In summary GT & UGA compete in difference Universes, which is WHY CPJ has no excuse.

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
11:32 am

George you forgot to add that in 2009 and 2010 the UGA depth chart was populated with CMR’s Recruits

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
11:32 am

Incorrect on so many levels, WnE. But by all means, keep talking to yourself and telling everyone to get off your lawn, old man.

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
11:33 am

“I’m not a UGA fan”

That’s gotta be one of your biggest lies yet, blowhard

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
11:34 am

George a little feisty today…I like it!

WnE

August 24th, 2012
11:39 am

re:
George Stein
August 24th, 2012
11:32 am

Incorrect on so many levels, WnE. But by all means, keep talking to yourself and telling everyone to get off your lawn, old man.
________

What part is incorrect?

The schedules strengths are correct.

The records are correct.

Please explain how I am wrong on so many levels.

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

UOAD !!!!!

Dawgfan – Your arguements don’t make sense. Our defense suffers because of our offense? I understand the logic that our defense does not perform as well since they have to practice against our offense, but you fail to recognize the flipside, the opposing defense must practice against their opposing offense. Would those two situations not cancel each other out.

Then you have to consider that much of the time spent preparing for a game is spent against a scout team. I would venture to say that it is much easier for a scout team to emmulate a more traditional offense than it would be for that scout team to emmulate the GT offense, especially given the spped with which it is run and the number of times the scout team has to replicate it. Our scout team on the other hand would spend the entire season replicating traditional offenses and, therefore, be much more adept than a scout team replicating the GT offense, which it might see once a year, maybe twice like UGA will this year with Georgia Southern just before us.

Nice try though, but for every step forward you believe you make, you are taking two back.

The way GT gets beaten is either by poor execution or just plain od better talent/execution on the other side of the ball. Let’s face it, overall, GT will never be able to recruit at the same level as many other schools for a myriad of reasons. But, we all know that not every team can execute perfectly every game. That is why they play the games and why the “star” system for recruits is only a general guideline, some recruits are overrated and some are sleepers. That is why the play the games.

GTBob

August 24th, 2012
11:47 am

Many UGA fans want CMR fired, while CPJ is beloved for getting fat on crappy opposition.

What do you think would be an acceptable amount of success for CPJ every year? What would make you not hate CPJ with a passion?

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
11:51 am

Done with you, WnE. You have no interest in a rational discourse. When you decide to grow the eff up, you let me know.

Until then, keep on posting comments that are heavy on trolling and devoid of analysis.

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
11:52 am

Been a long week, GTLee!

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
11:54 am

GT Lee- That was certainly one of the “levels” and blows his integrity out the window, or at least any little bit he might have had left given his propensity to stalk underage boys via Twitter.

Now, given his history pointing towards him obviously being a UGA fan (maybe even an Alum), would him contacting a GT recruit and trying to coerce him into not going to GT be a violation of NCAA guidelines on UGA’s behalf?

GT Anchorage

August 24th, 2012
12:01 pm

Great quote from Orwin’s workout video.

“When you want to be successful as much as you want to breath, you will succeed.”
“Sleep is for the poor.”

Reminds me of many a sleepless night spent studying in the student center/library. Hopefully, the entire squad is taking this approach.

Anyone know who the speaker was? Sounds like he is very motivational.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:02 pm

Vegas…makes you wonder if WnE was behind the Steven Nelson situation where he got a call from an “overzealous UGA supporter” asking him if he was going to flip to another school…

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
12:03 pm

Vegas, not sure we could pin that on UGA….but warrants a restraining order, at least!!!

GT Anchorage

August 24th, 2012
12:04 pm

You know, if you ignore WnE, he will go away.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:05 pm

GS…I have been writing actively lately…here’s the next article I wrote

http://www.fromtherumbleseat.com/2012/8/24/3263945/lessons-in-ambition-in-college-football

WnE

August 24th, 2012
12:07 pm

re:
George Stein
August 24th, 2012
11:51 am

Done with you, WnE. You have no interest in a rational discourse. When you decide to grow the eff up, you let me know.

Until then, keep on posting comments that are heavy on trolling and devoid of analysis.
_________

You must not like talking CFB then.

There is nothing more rational than W-L records vs. a Strength of Schedule comparison.

If you don’t recognize that as being rational, then you’re being irrational.

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
12:08 pm

Yea, I thought about that, but wanted to stick to the “facts”, that being that Wheenie contacted Vad Lee (as an underage high school recruit) and told him how bad GT would be for him. Vad Lee, showing more maturity and insight that Wheenie, told him to go away.

That being said, it would not surprise me if Steven Nelson was contacted by Wheenie, it certainly had his MO written all over it.

HighTech

August 24th, 2012
12:10 pm

GTLee…I think that lie (I’m not a UGA fan) trumps this one…

WnE

August 23rd, 2012
9:41 am
re:
1 4 GT
August 22nd, 2012
9:57 pm

I will give “Carnack” credit for two things. He/she has an agile mind and nimble, quick fingers. I would have tripped over myself so many times, my brain would be in lockdown mode.
____________

Those things aren’t necessary when you’re always telling the truth like I always try to do.

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
12:14 pm

another good read from FLJ

JM

August 24th, 2012
12:15 pm

I am glad Orwin has worked hard. It should help him during the season and late in games.

GT Lee

August 24th, 2012
12:16 pm

HighTech…….you, sir, are correct!

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:17 pm

Thanks Lee. I just hate it when people play the Stanford card on us.

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
12:18 pm

Hey guys. You have to get their attention first. Dwags and hoodoo that is, and a few others. You know, like an ole stubborn mule. Hit them REEAAALLLL hard right between the eyes with a 2 X 4, swinging from the heels.

HighTech

August 24th, 2012
12:25 pm

Nice article, FL Jacket! The other school we are compared to is Vandy. I would like to see a similar comparison to your Stanford one with Vandy, especially after reading this pile of manure….

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/08/james-franklin%E2%80%99s-success-could-lead-to-paul-johnson%E2%80%99s-demise/

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
12:26 pm

Fans have short memories, FLJ. That’s for damn sure.

The other issue – and, to me, it’s probably the biggest – is that it is too easy to say that Jim Harbaugh did a great job at Stanford. It’s a lot more difficult for critics (to put it mildly) like WnE to name who the replacement should be at another school. For example, it was clear to me that Houston Nutt had to go at Ole Miss. But I have no idea if Hugh Freeze is the right guy to replace him. And ultimately, that’s the issue, and it’s the one the morons won’t go on the record with.

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
12:28 pm

Why was James Franklin the OC at a school that went 2-10? Taylor King is exhibit A in what I was just talking about.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:34 pm

Listening to “Kang” is your first problem HT, haha

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
12:36 pm

I actually don’t think Oliver is an idiot, FLJ. I don’t agree with him much, but that doesn’t make him wrong.

Matt Chernoff is as useless as it gets, though. I just wish he’d go into a corner and count RBIs.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:37 pm

GS…Stanford has never been a destination job for a CFB coach. Bill Walsh, Dennis Green, Tyrone Willingham, and Jim Harbaugh all left for NFL gigs, and the dropoff in wins is pretty pronounced each time it happens.

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
12:38 pm

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:41 pm

Chernoff wishes he were Steak Shapiro…which is entirely different statement altogether

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
12:43 pm

Oh, God. The guys on 790 are as bad as it gets. I listen to podcasts in the car now to avoid them.

There really is a market for sports talk that goes beyond “player X knows how to win.”

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
12:50 pm

Yeah, I think Chuck Oliver is actually fairly knowledgeable about college football, in general. But I think he’s a total SEC homer and as such his he spends his time and efforts on the SEC, meaning that his knowledge of the ACC is severely lacking. Evidence of this can be seen in his discussion of the Clemson v. GT game last year. Its like he’d never even looked at the recent history of Clemson or Clemson vs. GT. There was a reason the line on that game was just 3 points, Vegas understood what Chuck Oliver didn’t.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:50 pm

680 isn’t much better…While Chritopher Ruud is entertaining and a dynamic personality, I have to put up with…

- Perry Laurentino acting like anyone who under-achieves committed a personal affront to him. That and his thinly veiled partisan comments about politics.

- Leo Mazzone deciding which days he wants to show up on time, and which ones he doesn’t. The only positive he brings to the table is stories from the time he was coaching the Braves.

- Sandra Golden throwing in the occasional “human interest” question but absolutely having no place whatsoever, not becuase of her gender, but because of her complete lack of sports acumen.

HighTech

August 24th, 2012
12:52 pm

Well, Chuck does have the endorsement of our resident expert…

WnE

August 15th, 2012
4:22 pm
I am glad that the Walk-on Paige has earned a scholly.

But GEEZ LOUISE!

How many under-sized, runt, A-Backs does one HC need?

It seems like we have 15 schollies tied up in a-Backs & “generic athletes” and only 2 NTs on scholly.

I’m to believe that 6-2 215 lb Synjyn Days doesn’t need to be moved to Safety and that we are OK with 6-ft 180lb Carlson playing behind Holton, a guy that missed a full yr. with an Achilles injury.

Our Depth chart at safety is VERY THIN, but CPJ is too selfish to give Days to CAG to shore up his Defense.

Chuck & Chernoff will be talking about GT at 4:46 pm EST on AM 680 in Atlanta.

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
12:52 pm

FLJ—interesting comparison, that!! Especially since so many on this blog say GT should emulate other schools, often mentioning Stanford. I, and I suspect, most of us prefer our model. The kids are student athletes first & foremost. And GT respects that fact!! And big success comes along in sports when the proper coaches are hired that also respect that fact. And our day is coming!!

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
12:54 pm

1 4…the cupboard is full for David Shaw, I’m curious to see where he takes it. The history is not on his side, that’s for sure.

George Stein

August 24th, 2012
12:56 pm

Agreed, FLJ. Laurentino is just another mouth breather on the radio with a total of eight brain cells at his disposal.

Even when I agree with the politics, I don’t like it.

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
1:03 pm

FL Jacket,
I agree… I get the sense that the Stanford admin makes the Hill look like a bunch of amatuers related to getting athletes in. How many universities have NFL caliber coaches? Factor in (or out) the once in a lifetime (well I guess it would be twice for Stanford) event of getting the best QB of a generation, and I think the likelihhood of Stanford falling back to the middle of the pack is very high.

Of course, then again GT had an NFL caliber coach before its current one (he’s in the NFL right now), and we actually got rid of him to bring in a coach that has more wins. That kinda puts some of the DUMB criticism of CPJ into perspective doesn’t it. GT upgraded from an NFL caliber coach and has more wins to show for it. Where else could we go from here coaching wise?!?!

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
1:04 pm

GS…I hear Barnhart and Durham is coming back during the football season. At least there’s some hope…

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
1:07 pm

HT—-I expect nothing less from the Georgie homer radio station in Atlanta. And 790, the so called GT home radio station, is worse. 790 mentions Georgie much more than they do GT.

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
1:09 pm

Plus 680 tries so hard to reach the “young” demographic. All the childish BS!!

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
1:26 pm

GTfan2012—-Yeah, right. Gailey is a NFL caliber coach?? He took over a the Cowboys with championship chances * drove them into mediocrity with records of 10-6 & 8-8 and was fired. Middle of the pack, average semi competitive teams. Just like at GT. But good enough for “Brainless”.

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
1:41 pm

I only point that out because he is a HC in NFL right now. There are only 32 of those jobs. You may have a view on how stupid Buffalo was to hire him, but that’s a totally different issue. The fact is, he’s an NFL head coach right now, and GT fired him and upgraded the HC in my view. I don’t know how GT could do better from a coaching standpoint given our resources and place in the college footbal landscape.

FL Jacket

August 24th, 2012
1:43 pm

“He took over a the Cowboys with championship chances * drove them into mediocrity with records of 10-6 & 8-8 and was fired”

1 4…just remember who runs the show in Dallas. The same guy who invested large in Quincy Carter and Tony Romo…is the same guy who has run off Bill Parcells and others.

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
1:47 pm

Not arguing with you GTfan2012. Like MLB, the NFL recycles the good ole boys too much. Not as much, but still too much. Why would you keep giving a failure a job? And yes, GT definitely upgraded their HC. I think we will begin seeing the benefits of this soon.

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
1:58 pm

I know FLJ. I tried to tell Jerry not to give Quincy that $60 million contract. Buy he wouldn’t listen. He thought he knew best. Quince thought, “looky here at what this crazy white man is doing for me”? He would have been more stupid than Jerry if he had said, “Mr. Jones, I can’t take this money. I don’t want to cheat you.” And $72 million to Romo!! JJ left him! Switzer left! Parcells left! Must be really hard to work for! How can a man smart enough to make all those billions be so dumb about his NFL team?

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
3:23 pm

Panama

August 24th, 2012
3:56 pm

What is up with Tech trolling Georgia State blog?

GTVegas

August 24th, 2012
4:24 pm

I did not even know there was a Georgia State Blog…

BLT

August 24th, 2012
4:36 pm

Hey Panama, how many hits have they had? Two dozen?

I’ve complimented State before but rarely go there. Anyway, good luck and be thankful you don’t have WnE trolling your blog.

GTfan2012

August 24th, 2012
4:36 pm

We had GSU Ben over here for a while. He wised up and left.

run Orwin run

August 24th, 2012
5:00 pm

ORWIN SMITH FOR HEISMAN,

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
5:32 pm

Panama—-I reckon if what you say is true (I have to assume it is, since you say so), I reckon he/she is akin to any troll…………nothing better to do. I myself, like GTVegas, didn’t even realize there is a Ga State blog. Oh well. Live & learn, huh?

option this

August 24th, 2012
7:56 pm

GT has the most productive offense in the ACC. 34.3 points
and 458.8 yards per game, more than any other ACC team.

All that’s missing is a productive GT defense.

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
8:51 pm

Let’s not forget gsu 2 X 4

1 4 GT

August 24th, 2012
8:52 pm

For the Ignorant……gsu 2 X 4 = GSU Stud

Paul in NH

August 24th, 2012
9:14 pm

@FLJ
Dempsey will be gone from Fulham by mid September – and maybe sooner. I can’t see him ending up at Everton – Moyes has just signed Mirallas and I can’t see them picking up another striker right now. Besides, the Blues have a quota of no more than 2 Yanks in the line up and they are keeping the 2nd spot for Landon Donovan!
I can see Dempsey across Stanley Park playing for Liverpool – John Henry seems to like to get people on the down slope of their careers for both of his sports clubs

blackandwhitestripes

August 25th, 2012
6:12 am

you idiot mutt fans on here have a lot to talk about. Every year is the year and you go no where with your jail bird 5 star recruits. Give me a break. I believe Tech is going to trim them stupid hedges this year and shove them under your goal posts.

smitty

August 25th, 2012
9:40 am

just give the damn ball to orwin……

Gorilla Biscuit

August 25th, 2012
10:23 am

VT 35 GT less than that.

crackbaby

August 25th, 2012
10:45 am

@HighTech

Oliver makes some valid points in his writeup. It’s not that bad. But he’s not making RELEVANT valid points IMO.

First, fat Chuck’s academically equal perspective of Vandy and Tech are way off base. Yes, both schools have tough admission standards, but Vandy has much more liberal arts majors that are easier for athletes to succeed in. Tech has very few.

Next, neither Vandy nor Tech want their head football coaches to have a high “free agent” profile. Why? Because once they gain enough popular demand with success they will be bought out by a bigger football factory school and Vandy/Tech is back to square one (or zero).

Recruiting rankings don’t matter. What does matter is wins and losses. CPJ is old school and doesn’t tweet. Coach Franklin does so he can communicate more with kids. So Franklin has the edge there, but wins and losses speak volumes and so does placing players in the NFL.

GT will never be a perennial national championship contender. That’s okay. CPJ should try to win the Coastal division and conference on a regular basis, stop the bleeding against UGA and every few years have a magical season.

No team, especially Tech, can expect to win every game. What the fans can and should expect is entertaining football. CPJ delivers this on a consistent basis.

BTW – If Groh’s defense doesn’t step up this year, CAG needs to go. With Tenuta’s D, no matter how overmatched talent wise, Tech always had a puncher’s chance. Yeah they got burned sometimes, but they made exciting plays on the other side of the ball.

Big Crimson 75

August 25th, 2012
12:23 pm

Tech 28 – Tech 23
It’ll be a good one!!

GT is a 4th rate high school team

August 25th, 2012
3:49 pm

I thought football at North AVE has been dissolved due to persistent mediocrity. LOL

Daddy Jacket

August 25th, 2012
5:11 pm

Great work…..I wish we could just play Va Tech, skip all the rest of the games, and then take on the Mutts and start scheming for the Orange Bowl. This is our year!

Not Disappointed!

August 25th, 2012
8:54 pm

Have a great year Orwin Smith! Go Jackets!

BLT

August 26th, 2012
12:13 am

“I thought football at North AVE has been dissolved due to persistent mediocrity. LOL”

I was under the impression that criminal behaviour will not be tolerated until I read and hear numerous stories about UGA football. The “tradition” continues. Now I get to “LOL”.

BLT

August 26th, 2012
12:17 am

“UGA is a fourth rate chain gang”. Bunch of worthless illiterate bums. “LOL”

dry dirt road

August 26th, 2012
6:56 am

I’d like to see Vad Lee play instead of TW. I recall the Georgia game, and it seemed TW intentionally did not play at full speed like he did after last summers break, his season efficency curve expiring at its lowest on an X and Y positive numbers scale. I’ll watch the kid, but I have seen Lee on hs vids from the shotgun throw the long bombs. TW has to let his blood pressure catch up with him when he receive LOS snaps during pass plays when he drops back and then has to stop, standing taller when he stops than when he was dropping back, his bood pressure doing all kinds of adjusting then. Shotgun passers keep their blood pressure stable so they are calmer when they look for receivers.

dry dirt road

August 26th, 2012
7:04 am

I used to get dizzy standing up from squatting down, and my cardiologist said that was a titration of a blood pressure medicine he had me on that caused the titration. Blood pressure changes from a low to a high position of the body. These teams that use the shotun are avoiding bp changes, and that’s why all the teams use the shotgun now. Remember NC Sate a few years ago on Grant Field when they put on the shotgun clinic, and only used LOS snaps within the red zone?

dry dirt road

August 26th, 2012
7:05 am

that caused the dizziness, not the titration, sorry about that

keep up the good work

August 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

The Jackets had more points and more yardage gained
than any ACC offense last season.

GTfan2012

August 26th, 2012
3:21 pm

dry dirt road,
NC State used the shot gun because their QB (who might be an NFL starter this year, by the way) was 5′11″. Much easier for a 5′11″ QB to see the field if he starts out in the shotgun, rather than taking a 5 or 7 step drop. I’m not saying we shouldn’t do it, I’m just pointing out that NC State used so much shot gun for a very specific reason and had success with it against us because their QB was an NFL quality talent despite being only 5′11″.

superDawg

August 26th, 2012
7:53 pm

you nurds are all puffed up with no where to go!

Wal-Mart Retards

August 26th, 2012
8:16 pm

…and the frawgs are all full of themselves with nowhere to go… but down.