Notes from Saturday morning scrimmage. It was closed to public and media, so this is all based off of accounts from coaches and players. It’s like Rashomon.
1. Even without its two starting offensive tackles and the starting B-back, the Georgia Tech offense put in an effective morning of work in the team’s Saturday scrimmage.
In the Yellow Jackets’ first full-team scrimmage of fall camp, the first-team offense twice drove 70 yards for touchdowns and reached field-goal position on a third possession.
“They were pretty good at doing what we do,” coach Paul Johnson said. “When we started in the auxiliary stuff, not so good.”
Charles Perkins and Zach Laskey subbed for David Sims at B-back. Sims, who had surgery in the summer to repair a stress fracture in his shin, has been held out. Tackles Ray Beno and Morgan Bailey were replaced by Bryan Chamberlain and Tyler Kidney.
“First drive, we opened up and kind of ran the ball down the field at will, but after that, [the defense] started adjusting and started doing some new stuff and kind of slowed us down,” guard Will Jackson said. “All in all, that was probably the best first scrimmage we’ve had since I’ve been here, in terms of both sides.”
Quarterback Tevin Washington made some plays throwing the ball, hitting receiver Jeff Greene on the opening drive for a 15-yard gain and later setting up A-back Tony Zenon for a 27-yard reception across the middle. While he drove the team to two touchdowns on the first-team defense, Washington conceded he wanted to be more patient in the pocket.
“We executed a couple drives running the ball, running the option,” quarterbacks and B-backs coach Brian Bohannon said. “We still want to improve in the passing game a little more, (be) more efficient when we do throw it.”
2. Defensive coordinator Al Groh deemed the scrimmage “a positive day,” noting three forced turnovers, crisp tackling and further evidence that his players have a deep enough understanding of the schematic concepts to “mix and match some of them to solve the issues that the offense presents you.”
Groh gave a positive report on nose tackle T.J. Barnes, whose fitness level was one of the questions going into the scrimmage.
“He’s trained very hard and his stamina, there’s been no indication in training camp of any real stamina issues, and there did not seem to be [Saturday],” he said.
Outside linebacker Nick Menocal made one of the plays of the morning. He chased down quarterback Justin Thomas about 50 yards to strip him of the ball and force a turnover. Thomas, a freshman, is one of the fastest players on the team.
“It took three to seven points off the board, so that’s pretty significant in terms of what the scoreboard looks like,” Groh said.
Thomas did not have the ball secured close to his body, Bohannon said.
“Hard lessons to learn when you’re the young guy,” he said.
3. The star of the scrimmage was B-back Zach Laskey, the third-stringer behind Sims and Perkins. Johnson praised Laskey for a strong fall camp and a few big runs on Saturday. Laskey and Perkins, both sophomores, contributed to the two touchdown drives. Laskey had runs of 25 and 16 yards to help take the offense to the end zone.
“Zach Laskey made a lot of plays,” Johnson said. “I thought he did some good things.”
Asked if Laskey is pushing Perkins on the depth chart, Johnson responded, “I’d say yes, definitely.”
Johnson also noted the play of center Jay Finch and wide receiver Micheal Summers, who caught a 49-yard pass from quarterback Vad Lee. Washington pointed out defensive end Euclid Cummings for his work causing problems on option plays and safety Isaiah Johnson.
Johnson, Washington said, was “just disguising coverages better, giving me a hard time, not giving you a clear look at what they were going to do.”
4. A number of key players were held out of the scrimmage with injuries. Cornerback Rod Sweeting and quarterback/A-back Synjyn Days did not participate, along with Beno, Bailey and Sims. Johnson disclosed only Bailey’s injury, a concussion. Bailey, who has been in the lead to start at right tackle over Kidney, also suffered a concussion in spring practice.
Johnson said Sims is considered day to day.
5. Kicker David Scully, in competition with Justin Moore for the placekicking job, missed in the team’s only field-goal try of the morning, from 41 yards. Both made extra-point tries.
Said special-teams coordinator David Walkosky, “We have to finish the drive, and we didn’t do that.”
6. The team will have Sunday off after practicing nine consecutive days since Aug. 3, a total of 10 practices. The team has 29 total before the season opener Sept. 3 against Virginia Tech. Said Johnson, “You’d always like to be better, but I think we’re making progress.” … Lee “didn’t really have a great day altogether,” Bohannon said, having some challenges with the option and not passing as well as normal. … Behind Sims, Perkins and Laskey, B-back Marcus Allen is a likely redshirt. … As in the spring, the offense did a little work out of the “Pistol” formation. … … A team movie was scheduled for Saturday night. “The Campaign,” starring Will Ferrell, was a candidate.
Thanks for reading. Back Monday morning.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
318 comments Add your comment
BLT
August 12th, 2012
8:45 am
gt4ever, are you really being “humble”?
lewisbuzzard
August 12th, 2012
9:01 am
GT4 are you truly a Tech fan or trying to bait people into trashing PJ and his offense? PJ has done a helluva good job recruiting the type players needed for his offense. What great QB did Gailey ever recruit while here at Tech? The last great QB we had at Tech was little Joe. Not sure if that was O’Leary or Lewis who recruited him but guarantee you not a lot of people put much stock in him until he brought the results to the field. When PJ’s offense is clicking there is not a DC in the country that looks forward to trying to contain it.
WnE
August 12th, 2012
9:10 am
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3. The star of the scrimmage was B-back Zach Laskey, the third-stringer behind Sims and Perkins. Johnson praised Laskey for a strong fall camp and a few big runs on Saturday. Laskey and Perkins, both sophomores, contributed to the two touchdown drives. Laskey had runs of 25 and 16 yards to help take the offense to the end zone.
“Zach Laskey made a lot of plays,” Johnson said. “I thought he did some good things.”
Asked if Laskey is pushing Perkins on the depth chart, Johnson responded, “I’d say yes, definitely.”
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It might be time to officially use the b-word (bust) when referring to Mr. Perkins.
When he came out of HS (early mind you), the kool-aid drinkers compared him to Dwyer.
I caught hell for telling everyone he was nowhere close to Dwyer based on MY ANALYSIS of his HS tape, but the know-it-alls at that time chimed in with their customary, “what are your qualifications”, and “I’ll trust CPJ’s eye for talent before I trust yours”.
Well here we are after THREE spring practices plus 2 full seasons, and going into his 3rd year out of HS, and now he’s being pushed by Laskey a guy that played Safety last season.
Talented RBs show what they have pretty early in their careers, Dyer (Aubie), Crowell (UGA), Lattimore (USCe), Trent Richardson (Bama).
Rarely do the “real difference makers” at RB, piddle around for 3 or 4 years out of HS and then magically transform into game changers as RS-Jrs. or RS-Srs.
Dwyer & Allen were basically already in the “pipeline” when CPJ arrived at GT, and since then his B-back recruiting has been spotty at best.
Richard Watson didn’t pan out, Perkins is on his way to not panning out, and Marcus Allen will get a RS and was seen as a LB by “everyone BUT CPJ”.
Laskey wasn’t offered by any “Big-Schools” as a RB so I doubt he’ll be anything more than “serviceable”.
Without a home-run threat at B-Back this offense will never thrive vs. elite competition, maybe Dook & Wake we’ll give fits to, but legit BCS-teams we won’t consistently play well against.
In addition to Defense especially DLine, CPJ has failed in Recruiting the centerpiece of his Offense which is the B-back position.
Once again, heavy on ANALYSIS, light on trolling, actually completely void of any trolling.
WnE
August 12th, 2012
9:10 am
re:
3. The star of the scrimmage was B-back Zach Laskey, the third-stringer behind Sims and Perkins. Johnson praised Laskey for a strong fall camp and a few big runs on Saturday. Laskey and Perkins, both sophomores, contributed to the two touchdown drives. Laskey had runs of 25 and 16 yards to help take the offense to the end zone.
“Zach Laskey made a lot of plays,” Johnson said. “I thought he did some good things.”
Asked if Laskey is pushing Perkins on the depth chart, Johnson responded, “I’d say yes, definitely.”
________________
It might be time to officially use the b-word (bust) when referring to Mr. Perkins.
When he came out of HS (early mind you), the kool-aid drinkers compared him to Dwyer.
I caught hell for telling everyone he was nowhere close to Dwyer based on MY ANALYSIS of his HS tape, but the know-it-alls at that time chimed in with their customary, “what are your qualifications”, and “I’ll trust CPJ’s eye for talent before I trust yours”.
Well here we are after THREE spring practices plus 2 full seasons, and going into his 3rd year out of HS, and now he’s being pushed by Laskey a guy that played Safety last season.
Talented RBs show what they have pretty early in their careers, Dyer (Aubie), Crowell (UGA), Lattimore (USCe), Trent Richardson (Bama).
Rarely do the “real difference makers” at RB, piddle around for 3 or 4 years out of HS and then magically transform into game changers as RS-Jrs. or RS-Srs.
Dwyer & Allen were basically already in the “pipeline” when CPJ arrived at GT, and since then his B-back recruiting has been spotty at best.
Richard Watson didn’t pan out, Perkins is on his way to not panning out, and Marcus Allen will get a RS and was seen as a LB by “everyone BUT CPJ”.
Laskey wasn’t offered by any “Big-Schools” as a RB so I doubt he’ll be anything more than “serviceable”.
Without a home-run threat at B-Back this offense will never thrive vs. elite competition, maybe Dook & Wake we’ll give fits to, but legit BCS-teams we won’t consistently play well against.
In addition to Defense especially DLine, CPJ has failed in Recruiting the centerpiece of his Offense which is the B-back position.
Once again, heavy on ANALYSIS, light on trolling, actually completely void of any trolling.
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
9:23 am
WnE is spot on. i think he might be the only tech fan that gets it about coach PJ and the level of talent the he keeps bringing to ga tech. i also commend him for standing up to these other tech fans that are living in la la land. enjoy another 6-8 win season because it all about talent when playing in div 1a football and tech is filled with div 1aa talent as WnE points out
Ted Dibiase
August 12th, 2012
9:26 am
Big surprise…pathetic Dwag fans who spend their time on Tech blogs agree with each other…get a room fairies.
WnE
August 12th, 2012
9:26 am
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lewisbuzzard
August 12th, 2012
9:01 am
GT4 are you truly a Tech fan or trying to bait people into trashing PJ and his offense? PJ has done a helluva good job recruiting the type players needed for his offense. What great QB did Gailey ever recruit while here at Tech? The last great QB we had at Tech was little Joe. Not sure if that was O’Leary or Lewis who recruited him but guarantee you not a lot of people put much stock in him until he brought the results to the field. When PJ’s offense is clicking there is not a DC in the country that looks forward to trying to contain it.
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You can’t validate CPJ by comparing him to the guy that GOT FIRED, he’s supposed to be better than the guy that got fired.
The guy that got fired never made more than $1.0 million per year, CPJ is schedule to make $2.6 million per yr. and our Athl. Dept. ,the GTAA isn’t bringing in money like Bama, Texas, Ohio State or UGA.
Next yr. we are coming upon CPJ’s 5th recruiting class and not one QB that he has Recruited was considered as a College level polished passer by other BCS level HCs.
As much as everyones loves Vad Lee and hopes that he is the answer, the HARSH REALITY is that he cannot beat out Tevin, and he was Recruited by many BCS level schools as a “generic Athlete” because those others didn’t project Vad as a “polished passer” on the BCS level.
FIVE Recruiting classes by CPJ and not one “decent passer”.
Name one QB recruit of CPJ that you would “trust” running a 2-min offense vs. a top-35 team?
I can’t name one, but I’m one of the FEW GT fans that is at least honest about GT FB.
No CPJ has NOT done a good job Recruiting for his offense, not one decent passer at QB ,and not one decent game-changer at B-back, CPJ’s Recruiting is what is hurting GT’s offense.
Straight analysis, no trolling!
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
9:32 am
WnE, do you ever go and check out techs practices? just wondering if these other tech fans are looking at all the div 1aa players on techs team going at each other that it kind of fools them into thinking pj has something good going on at tech.
BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:33 am
Can I still go to the games?
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
9:38 am
WnE is not a UGA fan but i am.. im always having these kinds of discussions with my dad, who is a tech fan. WnE has all the facts to back his statements up.
BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:39 am
Sorry, I could have swore it was CPJ’s offense that hurts recruiting. My bad, sometimes it’s hard to keep all the “analysis” straight. Maybe because it changes all the time?
WnE
August 12th, 2012
9:40 am
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atlxman
August 12th, 2012
9:32 am
WnE, do you ever go and check out techs practices? just wondering if these other tech fans are looking at all the div 1aa players on techs team going at each other that it kind of fools them into thinking pj has something good going on at tech
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Actually, after CPJ’s great start, the first 2 years where he had Chan’s recruits, he started closing more practices.
Very few practices are open to the public after the last 2 tough seasons, I guess when times get tough, you close practices.
I know media types that complain that GT’s practices aren’t more open.
I haven’t seen them practice much in person the last 3 seasons due to time conflicts, but I do watch each GT game 2 or 3 times on Comcast On-demand.
I also watch a lot of local HS FB and follow recruiting very closely.
The more FB you watch the better it “trains your eye” when it comes to spotting good talent and being able to separate the good talent from the mediocre talent.
BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:40 am
He sure does!
BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:43 am
Georgia Tech is the only team in the country to close it’s practices to the public. Got it!
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
9:43 am
BLT, you are correct in thinking that. his offense keeps the 4-5 star player away and he has to settle for div1aa players that are wanting so bad to play on offense that they turn down div1aa schools so they dont have to play on defense..
BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:45 am
“I also watch a lot of local HS FB and follow recruiting very closely.”
“trains your eye”
Sure! Kind of creepy but sure!
BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:48 am
atlxman, that’s what that other guy thinks not me. He contradicts himself so much it’s hard to keep up.
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
9:48 am
i see what your talking about WnE. i notice the gap in talent too and i try to tell my dad that but for whatever reason he thinks these players are top notch div1a players..i laugh at him on sat when he gets pissed on why tech players cant seem to hold their own against UGA and the other teams with div 1a talent, yet they looked so good against lower team in the div1aa football weeks before.
dry dirt road
August 12th, 2012
9:52 am
Reading the words “concussion” and “concussions” indicates very hard hitting, or maybe just landing on the head. Just don’t hit your fellow teammate too hard. Save that for Logan Thomas, huh, of course within the unecessary ruffness rules.
BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:53 am
“WnE has all the facts to back his statements up.”
Where can I look up these facts?
I’d say it’s all opinion. But then again, I don’t watch the game on TV two or three times and hang out at high schools on Friday nights. I just go to the Tech games. I pull for my team and hope they win. If we don’t win I move on and hope for the best the next game. I think it’s called being a fan.
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
9:53 am
BLT, so you dont think PJ offense hurts recruting? what do you think is? the best players on your team are on defense where every now again you land a real div1a talent. also he lands a pretty good receiver who is either from atl and doesnt want to leave home or his parents are fans of ga tech. other than that pj recruits on offense are made up players who should be starting on jax st or elon defense.
WnE
August 12th, 2012
9:54 am
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BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:39 am
Sorry, I could have swore it was CPJ’s offense that hurts recruiting. My bad, sometimes it’s hard to keep all the “analysis” straight. Maybe because it changes all the time?
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We have a former QB playing B-back that only gained 698 yds. vs. the 76th toughest schedule in all of CFB in 2011.
Name one game changer that CPJ has recruited at B-back?
Name one QB that CPJ has Recruited that you trust to run a 2-min offense with the game on the line?
Answer the obvious questions and you’ll see GT FB & CPJ in a totally different light.
When he first got to GT, CPJ didn’t “respect this level of CFB”, he thought that getting Dwyer , Bey-Bey, Derrick Morgan, Morgan Burnett, et al, were a piece of cake, he thought that any old Recruit that he signed he could plug em’ in and they’d produce like those guys I listed above.
He still hasn’t really “embraced Recruiting” at a very high level.
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
9:54 am
BLT it’s like wrestling with a pig. As in “Never get into a wrestling match with a pig. You both get dirty, and only the pig likes it.”
dry dirt road
August 12th, 2012
10:00 am
I’ll bet that most readers here would like to see a return to the unis of CPJ’s first year at Tech, particularly the all white(old gold) unis. And I’m sure such threads would be obtainable from somewhere. Is there still a Textile Engineering degree at Tech? For the all white unis and their gold helmets, why not have Tech wear the white helmets with the other vagas gold pants unis worn for CPJ’s first year for variability(not including the Chick Bowl surprise party dark blue jersey unis)?
WnE
August 12th, 2012
10:01 am
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BLT
August 12th, 2012
9:43 am
Georgia Tech is the only team in the country to close it’s practices to the public. Got it!
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He started closing practices a lot more after he dipped to 15-14 after 19-5 start.
BTW, GT does close their practices more than most BCS level schools, even Media guys will admit this, because CPJ doesn’t just lock out fans, he also locks out the Media.
I use to volunteer coach on the HS level and still have many friends that coach HS FB, I support HS sports.
HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:01 am
BLT…patience and restraint. People who stalk high school students or want to share their daddy issues on the AJC blogs are not worth responding to.
I would have liked to have seen that play Nick Menocal made against Thomas. Didn’t Nick originally commit to Miami before flipping to Tech? Miami has always had crazy team speed ever since they became relevant in the ’80’s. I’m glad CPJ can recruit this kind of speed.
dry dirt road
August 12th, 2012
10:01 am
“vegas” gold plz, I do not make mistakes as Tech grad
HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:03 am
Ol’JacketFan…that’s a good analogy about the pig. Also, a hound dog will usually whip a skunk but he doesn’t smell like a winner.
BLT
August 12th, 2012
10:04 am
OJF, I know…I fell for it again. I’m still going to the games. The ones played at BDS (maybe an away game or two). I’m still going to pull for my team.
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
10:05 am
i do the same for my team too BLT and WnE does too, he would just like to see a change in coaches as he has noticed that its not working for pj without gailys players. i personally like that tech has pj as a head coach because it gives my dawgs a really good shot winning that game everytime they play because of the gap in talent. uga doesnt have to play a perfect or even a very good game for that matter, to win the match up as they would against most of the other big boy schools they play.
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
10:07 am
@ HT I think I like your metaphor better than mine! And, yes, Menocal did commit to Miami originally. I had forgotten he ran track in HS.
dry dirt road
August 12th, 2012
10:09 am
regarding the o as effective, not if the pistol is not used enough; other teams are wise to the run and the LOS snaps, ineffective for pass plays; we don’t want Tech to play dumb, we expect more, a simple O’leary I formation could get Tech to a bowl game, just simple down and out type pass routes such as in a 2 minute o
HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:12 am
BLT…which away games are you planning to go to? I’m looking at going to Blacksburg, Athens, and maybe Clemson this season.
WnE
August 12th, 2012
10:12 am
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HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:01 am
BLT…patience and restraint. People who stalk high school students or want to share their daddy issues on the AJC blogs are not worth responding to.
I would have liked to have seen that play Nick Menocal made against Thomas. Didn’t Nick originally commit to Miami before flipping to Tech? Miami has always had crazy team speed ever since they became relevant in the ’80’s. I’m glad CPJ can recruit this kind of speed.
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Folks like you rarely talk about the FB aspect of things, but can bring unrelated commentary to the discussion.
You’re in denial, you avoid talking about the FB, because you know it’ll lead you to conclusions that you might not like.
You’d rather participate in blind-homerism than be a real CFB fan.
CPJ was/is a pure genius to pick a fanbase like GT that is so easily duped into believing what big-time CFB really is.
At place like GT with fans like you, beating Dook, Wake, Elon, W.Carolina, MTSU and SC State will give CPJ “lifetime security”.
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
10:14 am
tech right now only has the talent to run the pj high school/ military teams offense. the line is too small and weak and when you do have a big guy he is too slow for what pj has asked him to do. its a catch 22 with that offense when it goes up against the better talented players on the def line.
dry dirt road
August 12th, 2012
10:16 am
I won’t go to any games. I think I’ll stay at home and drink likker to my heart’s content, where the ice cubes are, in the legal way to drink, as opposed to drivin’ while drinkin’, as Georgia Tech grad of 1973. This is how I have watched all Tech games since ‘73. Also there’s more food available to eat while drinkin’.
HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:17 am
I was glad to read about Michael Summers catching that 49 yard pass from Vad Lee. Michael Summers’ family has known CPJ since his time at Georgia Southern.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/06/19/wr-micheal-summers-picks-georgia-tech-over-florida-pitt-duke-others/
He picked Georgia Tech over Florida and others.
Michael Summers and Vad Lee gave us a glimpse of the future.
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
10:20 am
HT don’t you know that Summers only caught that pass because the DB fell down and the only reason Lee was able to get it downfield was he had a tailwind.
and he was running for his life.
atlxman
August 12th, 2012
10:21 am
WnE, right now ,looking at your teams players, who would you have playing qb? i say tevin based on his experience in pj offense and the fact he has seen real time action. any other qb on the squad would lead to more 3 and outs and more booing..also more cursing from my dad..haha
HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:22 am
Ol’JacketFan…that would be one way to negatively spin it. Or, you could say the event is unverifiable since the practice was closed to the public.;-)
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
10:25 am
HT good point, we all know how Tech coaches are to spin things
HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:26 am
Right. They never tell it like it is. lol.
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
10:32 am
HT haven’t you heard, it’s always the players fault!
Bobby Petrino
August 12th, 2012
10:33 am
I’m available if you want to install a real offense that can consistently attract real Div-I recruits…I’ll also bring along a real defensive coordinator that can run a defense that can actually be competitive against good teams….
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
10:34 am
Hmm I wonder if Bobby would bring his mistress along as well. That could be entertaining! LOL!!!
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
10:35 am
and Ol Bobby really enjoyed his last stint in Atlanta!
HighTech
August 12th, 2012
10:40 am
A troll can change his name, but he is still a troll.
I read somewhere else that Morgan Bailey has a concussion. Does anyone know how serious that is and how long he will be out?
BLT
August 12th, 2012
10:41 am
I’m not sure HighTech. I might not go to any…it depends on my finances.
I think Ken should have a blog solely dedicated to bashing Tech and their coaches. It would provide an outlet for certain people.
I really wish that the people bashing CPJ and Tech would provide links to their “facts”. I don’t mean some dubious website with an agenda but a real website with real facts. What we get here is people stating their opinion and calling them facts.
Anyway, I’m off to do something productive. Everyone have a nice day.
Ol'JacketFan
August 12th, 2012
10:44 am
HT I think they’ll be cautious with him, this is his 2nd concussion. I hate that for him as he is a talented lineman that would be an asset when he’s healthy!
Dawg'88
August 12th, 2012
10:44 am
The offense w/o the two linemen is still effective because they are going against the Tech D. The first team is not good on D but with the offense going against the 2nd team which has to be much worse….that makes it unremarkable.
So….this is not a great performance.