Pain-free, Tech’s Orwin Smith setting bar high

Notes from interviews this week. Camp opens next Friday.

1. Orwin Smith said he will always feel lingering effects of his toe injury, but it matters little to him as his final season at Georgia Tech nears.

“I feel like I’m good to go, 100 percent,” said Smith, an A-back. “I don’t feel any pain. … [The injury] will always be there, but it’s definitely easier to do some quickness and planting things.”

Smith suffered the turf-toe injury early in last season’s loss to Virginia Tech. He played with diminished effectiveness for the remainder of the season. He had surgery in January and missed spring practice.

On top of a summer internship in the accounting department of a local beverage distributor, Smith has attacked summer workouts. On top of participating in team workouts, he has taken yoga and trained on his own, exercising with a resistance vest and also running and jumping in a pool.

“I’m the type of guy, I feel like I can’t get fast enough,” he said. “I want to be able to hold my speed for a longer period of time.”

Last season, he had 12 offensive plays of 20 yards or longer, including a school-record 95-yard touchdown run against Kansas.

“Starting last year, I put in a good amount of time of just individual workouts, and I feel like it paid off,” Smith said. “This whole summer, I’ve been trying to do that plus more.”

He offered a whopper of an individual goal — to lead the country in all-purpose yardage. A year ago, he finished 85th in the country at 106.1 per game. The leader averaged 198.0. At the least, he likely would need to be more involved on kick returns.

Said Smith, “It’s a nice goal I feel I can reach.”

2. Quarterback Synjyn Days hopes to win the starting job over Tevin Washington, but he also has worked at A-back, B-back and wide receiver in the team’s 7-on-7 passing scrimmages. He said he has been meeting with A-backs coach Lamar Owens to go over that position.

At ACC media days in Greensboro, N.C., this past week, coach Paul Johnson said that if Days “doesn’t beat out Tevin in the first two weeks of fall camp, I don’t want him standing over there in a baseball cap [as the backup].”

Johnson wants to get Days’ powerful running style on the field, at quarterback or elsewhere. Quarterback is Days’ preference, but he’s open to being moved around.

“To be able to switch positions and be able to make plays on the field is kind of the way I was raised,” he said.

3. While he’ll use a rotation at A-back, Johnson said in Greensboro that he hasn’t determined who will start opposite Smith at A-back and that it could be “one of two or three guys” and that “the guy that blocks the best will be the one that plays.”

That could be an opening for Robbie Godhigh, a former walk-on who had a strong spring practice and for whom blocking is a strength. Godhigh said a starting job is a goal.

“I take that as an opportunity for me to make a name for myself and become the starter,” he said. “Blocking will get you chances to run.”

Deon Hill, B.J. Bostic, Broderick Snoddy and Tony Zenon are other possibilities.

4. Cornerback Louis Young and safety Isaiah Johnson fell over themselves in praise of safety Fred Holton, who is in position to start after missing last season with a torn Achilles tendon.

“Fred’s like the backbone that we didn’t have last year,” Young said. “He’s going to bring that extra muscle that we need to really get the job done.”

Said Johnson, “He can cover as good as anybody. I just can’t wait to see what he can do.”

5. At the team’s strength-and-conditioning testing, cornerback Rod Sweeting recorded a 40-inch vertical leap, a five-inch improvement from last summer. Sweeting said he figured to reach 36 or 37 inches, but then jumped 38 inches on his first attempt and hit 40 on the next.

“The new strength-and-conditioning coach, he’s the best,” Sweeting said of John Sisk. “The whole team got better working out-wise.”

6. Tech players will report for preseason practice Thursday and participate in their first practice Friday. The Jackets will hold Fan Day at Bobby Dodd Stadium on Saturday. Festivities will begin at 3 p.m. on Callaway Plaza. Autograph signing and photo opportunities will start at 4 p.m.

Thanks for reading.

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

270 comments Add your comment

buzzwax

July 28th, 2012
2:13 pm

Ken, thanks! Any strength and conditioning test data for other players? Great offseason stuff!!

5150 UOAD

July 28th, 2012
2:19 pm

What about the IRON JACKETS?
Fench
Thomas
Drummond
all made Iron Jackets this summer.

5150 UOAD

July 28th, 2012
2:20 pm

sorry FINCH
Jay Inyoface Finch It’s not just lifting but 435 on bench 400 on clean and 550X3 on squat

5150 UOAD

July 28th, 2012
2:21 pm

The Dream

July 28th, 2012
2:38 pm

So much speed at the A back position and if Days rotates through that position too, just imagine what Johnson could do with that wide open playbook. I hope Chris Jacksonj gets involved with the offense early on. I just keep feeling better and better about this year. Keep your head in the game and don’t let any stupid mistakes on either side of the ball and this could turn into a very special season.

duece coupe

July 28th, 2012
2:39 pm

OrwinSmithFanClub.com

5150 UOAD

July 28th, 2012
2:43 pm

How long until WnE comes on the blog to pee on a Good Story with his self-loathing drivel?

duece coupe

July 28th, 2012
2:46 pm

I don’t want him standing over there in a baseball cap as a backup.

duece coupe

July 28th, 2012
2:48 pm

Crush the hokies.

Delbert D.

July 28th, 2012
3:06 pm

The players were talking about Holton and his strength even while he was injured last year. That guy appears to have a really good upside potential.

BLT

July 28th, 2012
3:23 pm

Good stuff, thanks for the update Ken.

BLT

July 28th, 2012
3:26 pm

“That could be an opening for Robbie Godhigh, a former walk-on who had a strong spring practice and for whom blocking is a strength.”

Some folks are gonna be surprised how good he blocks. I really don’t care what the eternal pessimist has to say.

ONCE AGAIN...

July 28th, 2012
3:40 pm

VT F__cks Sheep

GTKurt80

July 28th, 2012
3:56 pm

Wow, great stuff Ken. How about some high optimism reports on WR, DL and LB. WR and DL, not necessarily in that order, because those are our areas of concern. LB just because I love that position. I’m hoping to see Jabari Hunt Days really make an impact.
Orwin, go for it, we’ll be cheering all the way!!

Ken Sugiura

July 28th, 2012
4:11 pm

thanks. i’ll see if i can get any results.
i’ve heard a lot of positive things about T.J. Barnes and Emmanuel Dieke, in particular. i don’t know if it will be a position of strength, but i think they’ll hold their own. wide receiver is wide open. it depends if darren waller and others are ready.
jabari hunt days is going to be a player, but you have to remember he’s never played a snap before. quayshawn nealy has added good weight.

WnE

July 28th, 2012
4:18 pm

That solves everything people, glowing pre-season Reports, I guess you can pencil us in to play for the MNC this year.

I am amazed that Holton wasn’t a great “cover guy” in HS ,and yet after a ruptured achilles tendon, all of a sudden he’s a great cover guy.

We also had the same glowing pre-season reports before 2010 when we went 6-7, that team was supposed to, “more together and more united” after losing the big-4 to the NFL draft that previous season.

We all see how that turned out.

At the end of the day it all comes down to how they play FOOTBALL.

Glowing pre-season reports are for delusional fans that don’t like to deal in reality.

Every other Team is saying similar things as our players are saying, take the comments you read from our players & coaches with a grain of salt.

I’m just curious, will Sweeting’s increase in vertical help him shut down Muttville’s WRs (Mitchell, Conley, Bennett) that had him beat so bad last season for easy an TD that he wasn’t even close enough to make a play on the ball?

I’m pretty sure many of our opponents are claiming they increased their vertical leap numbers also.

It all comes down to the GAMES.

BLT

July 28th, 2012
4:25 pm

Thanks WnE, how are the dogs doing?

WnE

July 28th, 2012
4:39 pm

re:
BLT

July 28th, 2012
4:25 pm

Thanks WnE, how are the dogs doing?
__________

Could give a rats @$$ about the effin’ mutts!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
4:44 pm

And we could give a rats @$$ about your effin’ negativity. If you are a Tech fan, as you claim, then look for the good, and quit dwelling on what you THINK is bad

BLT

July 28th, 2012
4:52 pm

It does not sound like you care much about the Jackets either.

Let me simplify your assessment:

Everything is terrible with GT football. Tech should just go ahead and forfeit every game. There you go. Two sentences and your point is made. No need to post anything else.

I’m glad Ken keeps us updated on the Jackets. I doubt he’d get many “hits” if he wrote the stuff that you post on here. The dogs are on here all the time trashing Tech. Sad that someone that professes to support GT is always bashing them.

BTW, you put the “jack” in “@$$”!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
4:56 pm

@ BLT…..it’s a hopeless cause, but I guess we have to try

WnE

July 28th, 2012
4:58 pm

I haven’t said anything close to “everything is terrible with GT FB”, nor have I hinted that “GT should forfeit every game”.

But I will cut through all the BS “coach-speak” that deludes many of our fans from accurately assessing our FB program.

I will not stop translating the BS coach-speak whenever I see it or read it.

That will not change.

Ever.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
5:00 pm

You have NEVER NEVER said one positive thing about Tech football. So we translate your BS to “everything is terrible with GT FB.”

Ol'JacketFan

July 28th, 2012
5:01 pm

So tell us wrexie…….given all your superior knowledge and evaluation skills what record with the Jackets wind up with this year?

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
5:02 pm

C’mon, WnE, say something positive about GT FB. I bet you won’t

Ol'JacketFan

July 28th, 2012
5:02 pm

Oh and please break the record down game by game.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
5:04 pm

Your silence TRANSLATES to “I have nothing good to say about GT FB.”

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
5:07 pm

BLT……it would appear that your summary statement of WnE’s assessment of Tech football was 100% correct, in spite of his denial.

Ol'JacketFan

July 28th, 2012
5:14 pm

Hmmm how hard is it to find something positive to say about the Jackets??????

Robert Barron

July 28th, 2012
5:16 pm

It is difficult not to be excited about 2012.
And I was not that much excited preseason 2010 knowing what we had lost but also that we failed to get two O lineman into grad school and they played at Ga State.
I nearly did not buy season tickeys but finally did.
This year I signed up early.
I very much like having a special teams coach who should be able to upgrade our play.
VT has used Beamer Ball to win many games.
We have been poor in this area and any improvement will make me happy.
I am hoping for more than that.
If WnE really is a Tech fan, he must be the guy who lost out to Paul Johnson to replace Gailey.
Or have some private grief he will not divulge.
Why would any Tech fan want to aggravate the rest of us?.
Not just now and then which I have been known to do but every time.
There must be more behind the constant negativity.
What’s your real complaint.
Your ex-wife a Tech fan?

GTKurt80

July 28th, 2012
5:21 pm

Ken, thanks. Hope Barnes is a good NT this year, consistent. Walls couldn’t get the job done. If Barnes comes through, then the other team may have to use two blockers on him and that gives hungry LBs the hole they need.
I don’t comment on these often, just try to stay up to date on my team. It’s all about the fun of the game, our team to cheer for, our team wins, it’s fun, we lose, our team tried their best.
This WnE character is the worst. He/she gets us all off the subject and everyone feels they have to respond to the him/her. Please just ignore this nut and enjoy talking about our team.
Go Jackets!!

North Ave Killer Beez

July 28th, 2012
5:26 pm

WnE write something a little longer next time, we will read that one too, promise!!

Samiche

July 28th, 2012
6:29 pm

Self-loathing drivel? I like that!

duece coupe

July 28th, 2012
6:34 pm

Sounds like T.J. Barnes
is getting kinda Flamboyant in his old age.

www

July 28th, 2012
7:10 pm

wne should probably see a mental health professional.

guys that obsess like he has been doing for years over CPJ and tech football never end up well without help.

Paul in NH

July 28th, 2012
7:19 pm

WnE

July 28th, 2012
4:39 pm
re:
BLT

July 28th, 2012
4:25 pm

Thanks WnE, how are the dogs doing?
__________

Could give a rats @$$ about the effin’ mutts!

—-
Now that’s an interesting statment coming from the guy who posted this on Chip Tower’s blog during Spring practice

WnE
April 1st, 2012
9:38 am
Good to see Scott-Wesley step up at WR coming off of a RS yr., with Mitchell spending time at CB it will be good for him to use the Spring to develop more, he was a raw track guy last yr. now he needs to transition to being more of a FB player.
I didn’t see any stats for C. Conley or M. Bennett, were they shut out or injured?
Also Murray has to eliminate the INTS.!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
7:26 pm

@ Paul…….VERY INTERESTING !!!!

Ol'JacketFan

July 28th, 2012
7:42 pm

I’m sure wrexie will claim someone hijacked his name ;-)

Samiche

July 28th, 2012
7:42 pm

So, WhinE is a DwagE.

chas_jacket

July 28th, 2012
7:45 pm

the best way to deal with wne is to 1) not repond to his trash, 2) expose him as a dawg troll, 3) insult him – a bit redundant with prior item , 4) talk about GT football with other REAL GT fans.

Speaking of which, Super here was an article on Barnes posted while you were gone

http://georgiatech.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1384385

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
8:18 pm

thanks, chas_jacket. nice article

macrotech

July 28th, 2012
9:10 pm

Of COURSE, WnE is a mutt….just look at all the fecal matter on his chin when he posts….it’s a mutt thing!

Of COURSE, it comes down to the games! It’s just that we’re a month away from the “games” and this is all we have…preseason! I’m surprised YOU’d cry about ANYTHING to do with preseason…nobody’s star shines brighter than uga’s during preseason! I believe y’all are set to “win” the NC……again!

I’m stoked to see a healthy Orwin Smith on the field!!!

WnE

July 28th, 2012
9:15 pm

filters are acting very sensitive again…………

Jacket Man

July 28th, 2012
9:32 pm

You guys should know by now that anyone who stalks teenage boys online isn’t a GA Tech fan…

Jacket Man

July 28th, 2012
9:33 pm

Perhaps I should have specified males…

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
9:57 pm

If the filters were truly sensitive, they would censor all the garbage that you type

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
9:57 pm

sorry, that was addressed to WnE’s 9:15 remark

Dawgs

July 28th, 2012
10:18 pm

I could care what Kind of fan you call me …. I will tell you like it is… GT Has Major issues recruiting talent on the DL.
If they have not improved in this area look for them to be 7-5…

Paul Johnson CAN NOT recruit!! Point blank…. Sure Chump Gaily recruited the same star rating as Johnson, but some how another he turned the mediocre talent to decent players especially on Defense… Credit it to J Tunata for this maybe??? Anyways I have not seen Johnson put together ANYTHING on the defenseive side of the Ball… Yeah maybe the DBs are decent, but thats about it..

Dawgs

July 28th, 2012
10:23 pm

And quit calling WnE a Dawg!! If he is he is a dawg, he still telling the truth!
Aint no one making silly ignorant Techie jokes!!…. were talk unbiased football here. Leave your emotions out! and face truth
Your program has GLARING problems that seem almost unfixable!! 7-5 at best this season !!

Ol'JacketFan

July 28th, 2012
10:27 pm

@ Dwags………….tell us Jacket fans something…………..why would we care about your opinion on ANYTHING relating to TECH football? Tenuta? Seriously? The Tech fans I know were thrilled that he got ran out of town. His one trick pony act of blitz every down got very old, very quickly.

GT Mike

July 28th, 2012
10:30 pm

Tech dropout

July 28th, 2012
10:42 pm

I have never seen WhinE say a single thing complimentary about the current Jackets, ever. So after 3402 posts with never a positive thing to say, it just goes to show you that he is just a troll.

Some of you people are taking the troll bait, hook, line, and sinker.

Tech dropout

July 28th, 2012
10:46 pm

Dawgs, Tech is what it is and the Dwags are what they are.

Tech is the underdog that is predicted to lose more than it wins every season but somehow wins more than it loses usually.

Dwags is the team with the silver spoon in its mouth with all the talent and preseason top 5 picks, yet somehow always finds players arrested, kicked off the team, and still can’t go undefeated with their easy schedule.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
11:03 pm

@ Dwags……why don’t you talk to us about the GLARING problem you have on the O-line? Why don’t you talk to us about that chump you have as D-coach? You THINK he’s so great, but I’d be willing to be that you run him out of town before it’s all done. And you’ll be as happy to be rid of him as we are to be rid of Tenuta.

BLT

July 28th, 2012
11:04 pm

“filters are acting very sensitive again…………”

NO. that’s you “again”, go back and tell the dwags they are the bestest…

BLT

July 28th, 2012
11:13 pm

“But I will cut through all the BS “coach-speak” that deludes many of our fans from accurately assessing our FB program.”

Thanks for cutting the BS…Wrexie. You are invaluable. Do you cut other fecal matter? How about saving your post for the friggin’ dog blog. They have some dog BS that needs cutting. CMR said some serious BS the other day then back off his original BS. Go to the dogster blog and pontificate.

BLT

July 28th, 2012
11:17 pm

“Your program has GLARING problems that seem almost unfixable!! 7-5 at best this season !!”

We shall see soon enough. (laughing and pointing!) Good luck against Mizzou you miserable tool. What’s going to be the excuse this time dwag?

Supersize that order, mutt

July 28th, 2012
11:19 pm

BLT……I guess you noticed that he never responded when I challenged him to say something good about Tech, after he denied saying that there was nothing good about the team. I think his silence speaks for itself

Randy from Macon

July 28th, 2012
11:25 pm

Tech is going to have a great year. We are going to surprise some people. The offense is going to be much better and the defense will be much improved. I predict a win at VTech and anything goes from there. I think Tevin is going to get the job done for us, and our linebackers and secondary will absolutely kill some people. Go Jackets!

Long Beach Jacket

July 28th, 2012
11:30 pm

Glad the “Big O” (Orwin Smith) is back ready to go. Great that he has set a lofty goal for the season.
I’m on record (and will stand by it) that we’re headed for a 10-2 mark this year. September will be crucial. Last season, — first 4 games were against “lesser” opponents (WCU, a weak Kansas, MTSU, and UNC under an “interim” regime – although still a solid team). This year 3 of the first 4 are against teams that beat us last year in our stretch run: VT, UVA, Miami. This team is absolutely capable fo getting a W in Blacksburg on 9/3. Hopefully they convert the capable into the actual. (I like our chances). It’s always asking a lot for any team to start 4-0. If we can, with wins over the first 3 conf opponents, I’d say our chances of winning the Coastal are 80%+. If we start 3-1 (assuming we take 2 of 3 in conference) our chances are still 50/50 depending on what other teams do. Lose 2 of first 3 in conf (under any circumstance) and our chances in the Division are pretty slim. I’m setting the “over/under” at 3-1 in September. We’ll see…. GO JACKETS!

BLT

July 29th, 2012
12:21 am

Yes Super, you don’t read the dog blog but I do. His post on those blogs are always glowing. The are the best team in CFB but he comes on here and bloviates. I wish he woud just admit his allegiance. There’s really nothing wrong with that. I actually hope the dogs do well, but my allegiance is to Tech. I don’t try to hide my opinion. I wish he would just admit that he is a bulldog. His original post is very “telling” about his opinions and allegiance.

I know we should ignore the dog trolls and “they’ll go away”. I have yet to see that happen. The opposite is what happens, it becomes a hate GT blog. Anyway, I’m really excited about this season. I think we will have a great season. Big victories and some pay back plus (if things work out) an ACC Championship and Bowl win. GO JACKET!!!

BLT

July 29th, 2012
12:24 am

Sorry..GO JACKETS!!! Good night and God Bless!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
12:48 am

@ BLT……I’m with you 100%. I’m outta here now. If you’re still here, have a good night. GO JACKETS !!!!

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
7:09 am

Reality

July 29th, 2012
7:32 am

Although Washington is the starter at QB, I hope to see Vad Lee on the field this year. This team should belong to him after Washington leaves.

After losses to Missou and USC, the Dwags will be singing the all-familiar song of “fire Richt”.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
7:49 am

@ HT……thanks for posting that link. It shows the absolutely necessary analytical approach that MUST be taken by any coach using the TO offense. I doubt very much that any other offense being used requires that much coaching and decision making by the QB.

ToeMeetsLeather

July 29th, 2012
7:59 am

Reality, don’t count Thomas out for next year. With a full fall under his belt and probably running the scout team this year, the spring and next fall should be a big time battle for that spot next year. Either way, I think this offense finally reaches it’s full potential with either one of these four-star athletes. It’s huming along pretty good with a two-star(Rivals) right now.

Hope Big-O (Orwin) is able to stay healthy this year. We sure did drop off last year after we lost his big play potential. Would love to see a two player rotation of Smith and Days at this A-Back spot this year(talk about some gased LB’s on the other side of the LOS).

Looking forward to seeing Holton’s blind side hit on Logan Thomas about 9:45 on 9/3.

Beat UGA

July 29th, 2012
8:12 am

The best revenge of all is to beat ugag this year, that is the cake. The icing on the cake is for all techies to fire all uga fans on their payroll, yes I know the trash will pile up without the janitors, but we all must make sacrifices.

Dawgs

July 29th, 2012
9:57 am

Beat UGA the whole Idea here is to speak fact and not trash talk…

Yes we have issues, but the are not GLARING issues… We will win the east this year still
Our schedule from an SEC stand point is easy. Of course if Tech played our schedule it would be tough for them. Again speaking relitive.
Tech does not have the horses upfront to win the coastal. Until Johnson learns to recruit.

Jan Kemp

July 29th, 2012
10:04 am

Is it just me, or do the majority of the Georgia fan posters on this website write like they slept through most of their English classes at Elbert County High School?

BLT

July 29th, 2012
10:08 am

It’s not just you Jan Kemp.

Dawgs

July 29th, 2012
10:33 am

Hey were talking sports…. Don’t get on the field and start talking Hisenburges uncertainty principal. Or Erin Schrodigers Wave Equations do we??

No this is sports!!!

BIrmingham Jacket

July 29th, 2012
10:37 am

A competition at QB between Days and Washington doesn’t portend success.

Until this regime focuses its efforts on signing better football players get (even more) accustomed to losing to UGA.

And the way Swinney is recruiting at Clemson, we will be their step-child.

Paul Johnson just aint getting it done in February.

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
10:57 am

It’s Heisenberg and Erwin Schrodinger.

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
10:59 am

Our offense will eat Clemson’s lunch because the Tigers’ D is undisciplined.

http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2012/jul/27/brent-venables-ready-tackle-multiple-challenges-ac/

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
11:02 am

Clem&sons has added a lot of speed the last few years but Tech has been able to Win games.

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
11:18 am

Clen&sons D: 11 players on Venables’ defensive two-deep are either freshmen or sophomores. Sophomores are expected to start at three of four defensive line spots, middle linebacker and a cornerback spot.

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
11:21 am

The VPI game will be interesting.
Our D against a young VPI O
Our O with new WR’s against a good VPI D.

“I think we have the ability to be good on offense,” Beamer said this week at Atlantic Coast Conference media days, where Tech was picked to win the Coastal Division.

Still, Beamer said the Hokies’ game plan for success will focus on lots of defense, some good special teams play and whatever offense star quarterback Logan Thomas and company can muster.

“I think if you’re solid on defense, that’s a great start,” Beamer said. “If you kick the ball well, that takes you up one notch. I think on offense, where we are this year, if you come along and take advantage of opportunities, you certainly can win football games that way.”

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Olympic Basketball is not that great. Maybe when we get to the medal rounds.

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
11:33 am

“I think if you’re solid on defense, that’s a great start,” Beamer said. “If you kick the ball well, that takes you up one notch. I think on offense, where we are this year, if you come along and take advantage of opportunities, you certainly can win football games that way.”
—————————————–
This applies to us as well. Hope to see an improved Yellow Jacket D this year. Also hope to see the payoff from a special teams coach.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
12:17 pm

@Dwags……you say you don’t come here to trash talk, and then you do it your self: “Of course if Tech played our schedule it would be tough for them”

That is nothing but conjecture and trash talk on your part. The fact is that the dwag schedule is probably the weakest in the SEC, and the only team you play that is, without a doubt, any better than the best teams on Tech’s schedule is USC, who will probably beat the dwags AGAIN, but lose the SEC east because they actually play somebody.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
12:25 pm

@ Birmingham……I said it a couple of days ago, and I will say it again—-you are being awfully naive if you think Johnson isn’t trying to recruit. In fact, he has done quite well the past two years, and the future looks great on both sides of the ball. Could we do better? Of course, but only a few schools nationwide would not be able to say that. If we are not getting the recruits that YOU think we should be getting, I can guarantee you it’s not because CPJ isn’t trying to get them. Recruiting is often nothing more than a crap shoot, and a lot of luck is involved. Whether Tech academics are a legitimate reason for not getting the best is up for debate, but other schools definitely use academics as a tool in recruiting against us. UGA has used the “you couldn’t handle the Tech curriculum as easily as our” argument in recruiting since the beginning of time, so to speak. Bama used it for years when we were still in the SEC, and I’m sure other schools besides UGA still use that argument. Don’t come on these blogs saying that CPJ doesn’t try or can’t recruit; he’s doing his damn well best to get the best. Sometimes he gets them, sometimes he doesn’t; it is what it is. Remember 30 years ago while at Florida, Spurrier “complained” that UGA gets all the top talent, but he followed that up with the question, “but what do they do with it?” I trust CPJ to do the best with what he gets and to keep trying to get more and better athletes on the team.

Dawgs

July 29th, 2012
12:35 pm

OK Supersizer,

I did not intend for it to be a cut down…. Heck who knows if yall played our schedule you might indeed win the following.

Tennessee “they are really scared of NCST”
Vandy? could be close…Vandy gets more talent than you do because of James franklin
Florida?? If UF is as bad as last year Tech beats them… if they played up to their potential they even beat us..
Mizzu?? Give it to tech
Auburn?? Hmm dunno Clemson beat them
USC? Forget it..we will not beat them..
Kentucky? Beatable but they have the same talent as you guys…

Honestly yall would most likely have the same record with our scheduel as with your own really… I would say about the same record….7-5… maybe 8-4 if your lucky…

Again just stating facts you know if we had your schedule we would go 13 and 0 who is there to beat us?? Clemson???would you put Dabo up against Richt? VT?? Would you put VT young Offense up against our defense?
AC champ game… would you stack Dumbo Fisher against Richt?

We would go 13 and 0 and get Killed in the bowl against Alabama..

this aint no trash talk its just fact….

Dawgs

July 29th, 2012
12:39 pm

Oh lets talk Paul Johnson,

If he and his staff were instantly at UGA I’d say we would win the National Champion ship the first two years back to back… then after Rict’s players were gone we would drift down to the mediocrity of about 7-5 or 6-6 depending on our rotation of the SEC schedule..

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
1:02 pm

Dabo against Richt isn’t the match up

Venables v Bobo……………Venables
Grantham v Morris…………..Morris cause of the Clemson speed. But could be Grantham If players are not suspended.

GT fan

July 29th, 2012
1:05 pm

13-0 is FACT to you, Mr Dawgs, only b/c you are a UGA fan and an SEC homer.
In reality, you are just another DDF (delusional dawg fan).

BIrmingham Jacket

July 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

@Supersize

I suspect you’re too young to remember coaches called Bobby Ross and George O’Leary.

But they used to actually pull talent in the state away from The University of Georgia. And not surprising, they used to beat UGA. It used to be a “rivalry”, because the talent was close— still UGA had a slight advantage, but it was close.

I suspect you’ve never played competitive sports…. Or have never been in a game, when you realize you have no chance, because the competition is just bigger, stronger and faster.

I don’t know if he’s trying or not.. I just know Paul Johnson isn’t getting it done in February. And we could pay someone else his $7 figures to get it done.

GT fan

July 29th, 2012
1:15 pm

DDF, Dawgs …..

UGA’s D in 2011 was a case of smoke & mirrors. Yeah, statistically, they looked really good. That’s b/c the schedule was so weak! The four constistently good teams they played (Boise, USC, LSU, Mich St) all put over 30 pts on the board. UGA was 0-4 vs. the only CONSISTENTLY good teams it played in 2011. The Dawgs’ best wins were Auburn & GT … teams that both went 8-5, and were inconsistenty good in 2011. So, UGA beat a college team that really was good in 2011, and a high school team, as so many of you refer to GT as. Nice work coach Grantham!

2012 will be the same for UGA … at this point it appears that their schedule is actually WEAKER than 2011. Unless Ole Miss, Vandy, UK, UT or UF drastically improve. Then there’s Mizzou replacing Boise. Are you aware that UT had its worst SEC season EVER in 2011? And that UF hadn’t been as bad as 2011 in 40-50 yrs?

Who knows, 2012 could be like 1980 for UGA. A team, in the 1980 Dawgs, that Sports Illustrated once highlighted as the worst team to ever win a NC.

Here’s a real FACT for you Dawgs ….. UGA will not be as good as their record says they are (see my pt about weak schedule).

Dawgs

July 29th, 2012
1:18 pm

I fear both Bobby Ross and George Oleary now!!..Heck! Oleary Beat us again back in 2010 in that bowl game with that fool George Godsey.. He put up four fingers after that game in 2010!

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
1:21 pm

that FOOL Goose Godsey? I don’t think New England has many FOOLS working for them.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
1:57 pm

@ Dwags……you apparently are not the unreasonable troll I took you for. In fact, I agree with much (not all) of what you said. For one, I think you underestimate Beamer and overestimate Grantham. I know you will disagree with me on this, but I think Granthams’s D is NOT what you perceive it to be. It is much like (not in style, but in temperament) Tenuta’s when he was at Tech. Sometimes it looks awesome; sometimes not so good. Obviously, overall, right now Grantham’s D is pretty good against opponents, but I would be willing to bet that before all is said and done, Grantham will be gone, and you will be glad he is. He is a loose cannon, and I think he will embarrass the university by his antics. He already has to some extent in the 2010 Florida game and the 2011 Vandy game; it will get worse.

As far as your assessment of how CPJ would do at UGA, I think he would have awesome results almost from the start, based on the talent (mostly underused) in Athens now. I don’t know enough about Murray or the other QB’s to know if they could successfully and consistently run the TO though. I disagree with you that after the first two years, with Richt’s recruits gone, CPJ’s record would slip. Unlike Birmingham Jacket, and a few others, I DO think CPJ can recruit, and it should be breeze to recruit for UGA, So I wouldn’t think there would be any slippage at all.

BTW, I find it quite humorous how you hate Godsey. LOL

GT fan

July 29th, 2012
1:58 pm

Birmingham Jacket, or should I just call you “BJ”?

The last time I checked, PJ has actually coached the Jackets to a W over UGA……
Those great coaches named Ross and O’Leary won 2 & 3 games vs. UGA, respectively.
Yeah, Bobby Ross was 2-3 vs. UGA in his 5 seasons at GT. So, by your own actt, if PJ guides the Jackets to a W over UGA in 2012 then he’ll finally be as great a Bobby Ross, and 2/3rds as great a O’Leary.

BR won 31 games in 5 seasons at GT (’87-’91), a time when there wasn’t nearly as much parity in CF as there is now. Now here’s PJ, with no talent as you claim, running a high school offense as so many of your fellow Dawg fans claim, with 34 Ws in just four seasons vs. much better parity than BR’s tenure.

And the invincible GO won 52 games in 7 seasons with 33 Ls. GO was 3-5 vs. UGA (he was interim HC in the 1994 Loss).

BR 31 Ws in 5 seasons = 6.2 Ws / season
GO 52 Ws in 7 seasons = 7.4 Ws / season
PJ 34 Ws in 4 seasons = 8.5 Ws / season

You just proved you’re not a GT fan / Alum b/c you can’t do SIMPLE MATH! 8.5 is better than 6.2 or 7.4!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
1:59 pm

Birmingham……I might remind you of a couple of things about O’Leary’s and Ross’ times at Tech. During both those eras, UGA had TERRIBLE coaches, and it was easy to recruit against them.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
1:59 pm

Ross went 2-3 against GA in his 5 years, O’Leary went 3-5 against GA in his 8 years. Ross’ teams won 31 games in his tenure and O’Leary’s teams won 52 in his tenure. CPJ 1-3 against GA and 34 wins in 4 years. Thank you, I’ll keep CPJ.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
2:04 pm

Pretty sad, isn’t it, that Dawgs (obviously a UGA fan), shows more class and intelligence than Birmingham Jacket (apparently NOT a true Tech fan)

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
2:09 pm

And just for aruguments sake (yet once again) ………….Who would you hire to replace CPJ that could come in hit the ground recruiting and beat GA consistently??????????????

GT fan

July 29th, 2012
2:11 pm

Ga Southern football is to D1AA what schools like OU, Nebraska, Ohio St., USC, Texas, Bama, LSU, Michigan, UF are to D1. At GSU, PJ got the best of the best D1AA talent, and it showed in his 62-10, 2 NC, 1 NC runner up, record in just 5 seasons.

People who think PJ wouldn’t win NC at the D1 level of CF are ignorant.

If he were at one of the aforementioned D1 schools he’d win similar to how he did at Ga Southern.
And if he were at schools like UGA, UT, USCarolina, Clemson, FSU, Auburn, VT … places where the academic rigors don’t limit his ability to stockpile talent … he’d immediately bring those schools to championship level.

GT fan

July 29th, 2012
2:21 pm

If GT were to ever “loosen/open-up” their curriculum it would be a bad sign for UGA, UT, Bama, AU, FSU, UF, USCarolina, Clemson.

The collective football talent GT would gain from those schools, along with the the prestige of a diploma entitle Georgia Institute of Technology would be a big loss for those 8 schools.

www

July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm

“birmingham jacket” sounds like more of a uga troll than the posters who actually use “dwag” in their name.

wne jr, perhaps?

CFB fan

July 29th, 2012
2:33 pm

GTFan, 1st PJ would never be considered for a job at a big time program his inexperience in recruiting and developing talent are glaring. He would have the same problems he has at Tech, the elite players it takes to compete in major conferences don’t want to play in the service academy option.All the 4 and 5 star RB’s and skill players that don’t accept Pj offers at tech wouldn’t consider playing for him if he were at FSU,South Carolina, Clemson, Vt, Auburn either.Pj saving grace has been coaching in one of the weakest conferences in America .

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
2:38 pm

@ CFB fan……WRONG !!!!!

CPJ was considered at Auburn when Tech hired him

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
2:39 pm

@ CFB fan……and another thing, there are PLENTY of UGA fans who have told me they would kill to have CPJ at UGA.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
2:52 pm

Let’s see in 4 years Tech has put 2 RBs and 3 WRs in the NFL plus a couple of DBs, LBs, DLs and OLs. Okay so no skilled players want to play at Tech. Yeah that such a factual statement. Of course a RB wouldn’t want to play in an offense where he can average 10.1 ypc or a WR in single coverage and average 26 ypc. It boggles the mind to think that skill players want to avoid this offensive scheme!

GT fan

July 29th, 2012
2:55 pm

Super …. CFB fan is an SEC homer …. he can’t see the forest for the trees.

PJ would be dominant at a “football factory”. Roddy Jones, Embry Peoples, Josh Nesbitt, Tyler Melton weren’t going to be NFLers had they played in an “NFL offense” either.
It remains to be seen what Stephen Hill will do at the next level, but he’s there. And he played in a high school offense. Did BeBe do better in CG’s “pro offense” or PJ’s high school offense? I’ve heard nice things about AAllen. J.Dwyer simply can’t motivate himself to be better … 30+ lbs heavier than his college weight of 225′ish lbs.!?
Only b/c of a nepotism’ish situation is JNesbitt being given a chance, to play on DEFENSE, in Buffalo. Where would JN be if CG weren’t in Buffalo? Does he have talent? Heck yes. Can he make it in the NFL? IDK. Were David Greene & Eric Zier much better college QBs than JN? You betcha! How’d they fair at the next level?

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
3:01 pm

“Super …. CFB fan is an SEC homer …. he can’t see the forest for the trees.”

YA THINK??? LOL

GT fan

July 29th, 2012
3:11 pm

In regards to Ken’s article …….

I like Orwin’s optimism, but unless he returns kicks & punts I don’t see him increasing his 106.1 APyds/gm the 80-100+ more yds/game he’ll most likely need to lead the nation.

How’s SD’s fumbleitis? Got great running ability but fumbles too much. Does PJ have too much AB talent opposite OS? Godhigh, Hill, Bostic, Snoddy, Zenon, Days, et al.

BBack … is the O headed for another subpar season out of this position? CP definitely has the physical tools…is he ready to dominate at BB?

D Waller at WR … I read 6′6″ 230lbs, and 4.5 speed. Can he block & catch? Would love to see that talent on the field. And Snoddy’s speed too? Does BS fumble like SD? If not, they he’s gotta at least be returning KOs. Need a homerun threat back there. Back 4 on KOs … Snoddy, Zenon – deep guys, OS/SD, D.Waller – next level = 4 homerun type guys fielding KOs.

CFB fan

July 29th, 2012
3:25 pm

How many of them did he develop or recruit? 2 players selected in the draft the past 2 drafts and 1 2012 all acc pre season selection tell you all you need to know about how great PJ has recruited and developed talent. You actually think he would attract the players that are turning him down at Tech if he were running the service academy option at a football factory. It wouldn’t be football factory long if Pj were hired. A program has to have the players to compete on a high level PJ ’s track record for attracting or developing elite talent cant by any stretch of the imagination be deemed as anything other than sub par.You guys act like he’s developed something special at Tech, GT is the 7th or 8th best team in what is widely acknowledged as an inferior conference.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
3:26 pm

@ CBF fan……why don’t you just go ahead and change your name to SEC HOMER. You obviously don’t know anything about Tech or college football in general

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
3:28 pm

How COULD CPJ have had many of HIS players drafted, when he is only entering his 5th year at Tech, and most of the players whom he recruited haven’t finished 4 years yet. DUHHH

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
3:33 pm

@ CFB, considering CPJ’s 1st class are now SRs it would have been difficult for them to already be drafted. If you think the players he inherited did not benefit from his and the staff’s coaching you’re even more myopic than I thought. Out of this year’s SRs I would say Uzzi, O.Smith, Sweeting and J.Thomas will be drafted and FInch, Jackson, Cross, Drummond will probably sign FA contracts. That’s 8 Srs, not too shabby in my opinion.

WnE

July 29th, 2012
3:49 pm

re:
GT fan
July 29th, 2012
1:58 pm

Birmingham Jacket, or should I just call you “BJ”?

The last time I checked, PJ has actually coached the Jackets to a W over UGA……
Those great coaches named Ross and O’Leary won 2 & 3 games vs. UGA, respectively.
Yeah, Bobby Ross was 2-3 vs. UGA in his 5 seasons at GT. So, by your own actt, if PJ guides the Jackets to a W over UGA in 2012 then he’ll finally be as great a Bobby Ross, and 2/3rds as great a O’Leary.

BR won 31 games in 5 seasons at GT (’87-’91), a time when there wasn’t nearly as much parity in CF as there is now. Now here’s PJ, with no talent as you claim, running a high school offense as so many of your fellow Dawg fans claim, with 34 Ws in just four seasons vs. much better parity than BR’s tenure.

And the invincible GO won 52 games in 7 seasons with 33 Ls. GO was 3-5 vs. UGA (he was interim HC in the 1994 Loss).

BR 31 Ws in 5 seasons = 6.2 Ws / season
GO 52 Ws in 7 seasons = 7.4 Ws / season
PJ 34 Ws in 4 seasons = 8.5 Ws / season

You just proved you’re not a GT fan / Alum b/c you can’t do SIMPLE MATH! 8.5 is better than 6.2 or 7.4!
______________

It doesn’t come down to simple math either, you have to put things into context.

GT’s FB schedules have become weaker since CPJ took over for Chan, and are much weaker than the schedules played by GOL & Ross.

GT and CPJ’s saving grace is an AD that is willing to water down the OOC schedules , plus playing in the worst Era for ACC FB ever.

Those are the things that are propping up CPJ, those so-called 8.5 wins per yr. don’t mean much given how weak the schedules are.

In 2011 for example, GT played the 76th toughest schedule in all of CFB according to Sagarin that has been doing computer rankings for longer than anyone else has, by comparison UGA’s schedule strength was the 23rd toughest schedule in the country and GT fans are always saying that UGA had a “weak schedule” in 2011.

Had GT played the 23rd toughest schedule after going 8-5 vs. 76th toughest schedule, then GT would have likely had a 5-7 season (maybe 4-8) with NO Bowl invite.

CPJ has lucked out by playing weak schedules in a down, horrible Era for ACC FB.

CPJ is much lesser HC at GT than was Bobby Ross or GOL!

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
4:07 pm

And yet CPJ has already passed Ross in wins and will pass O’Leary next year. As to SOS I’ve never been sold on computer schedule rankings, a team has to play the team across the LOS and that determines who wins. Plus I have always felt there is an inherent conference bias that cannot be eliminated. I was around for both the Ross years and O’Leary years, I don’t see a tremendous difference in the schedules played then vs now.

WnE

July 29th, 2012
4:09 pm

Both CMR & CPJ are 34-19 over the last 4 seasons:

But once you analyze the SoS’s you’ll see that those same records are NOT “equal”.

CPJ’s Strength of Schedules (according to Sagarin data used in BCS calculations)) since he came to GT have been:

2011 76th
2010 69th
2009 10th
2008 40th

CMR’s Strength of Schedules since CPJ arrived at GT

2011 23rd
2010 36th
2009 7th
2008 11th

The records might say 34-19 but one 34-19 isn’t equal to another, just like 2 HS GPAs (3.8 for example)aren’t equal if one came from a guy that had an 1,100 on the SAT and another came from a guy that had 1,500 on the 2-part SAT.

99.9999999999999999% of GT would say that the HS GPA that came with the much higher SAT score is more impressive, yet those same GT fans that “love statistics” will LIE TO THEMSELVES and claim that both 34-19s are equal even though one came vs. much tougher competition.

In all honesty had CPJ’s “genius system” had to play the strength of schedules that CMR has had to play over the last 4 seasons, there would be a good chance that CPJ would have had 3 losing seasons out of 4 and be unemployed right now.

CPJ’s 8.5 wins per season are not impressive given the weak schedules GT has played, but he is able to get away with his cr@p at GT because the Fanbase in not very savvy when it comes to understanding big-time CFB.

DRad knows this which is WHY he is working so hard to water down the schedules, so that his hiring of CPJ will look like a good move to a fanbase that doesn’t really know a lot about CFB.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
4:16 pm

Let’s recap shall we? CPJ has no D1 talent on board, has coached against a watered down schedule, cannot recruit, cannot coach up the players he has. And yet his teams have managed to win 34 games and an ACC Championship since he took over. Oh my the SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s go ahead and give up and move to DIII, perhaps we can win at that level,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sheesh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Did I miss any of your points Lexie? I mean wrexie??????

Dawg48

July 29th, 2012
4:26 pm

48is kissing the bricks today!

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
4:29 pm

Interesting. Let’s look at the records for the Boss Ross era:

Sep 12, 1987 vs The Citadel W 51 – 12
Sep 19, 1987 vs North Carolina L 23 – 30
Sep 26, 1987 at Clemson(10) L 12 – 33
Oct 3, 1987 at North Carolina State L 0 – 17
Oct 10, 1987 vs Indiana State W 38 – 0
Oct 17, 1987 vs Auburn(7) L 10 – 20
Oct 24, 1987 at Tennessee(13) L 15 – 29
Oct 31, 1987 at Duke L 14 – 48
Nov 7, 1987 vs Virginia L 14 – 23
Nov 21, 1987 vs Wake Forest L 6 – 33
Nov 28, 1987 vs Georgia(14) L 16 – 30

Sep 10, 1988 vs Chattanooga W 24 – 10
Sep 17, 1988 at Virginia L 16 – 17
Sep 24, 1988 vs Clemson(8) L 13 – 30
Oct 1, 1988 vs North Carolina State(17) L 6 – 14
Oct 8, 1988 at Maryland L 8 – 13
Oct 15, 1988 vs South Carolina W 34 – 0
Oct 22, 1988 at North Carolina L 17 – 20
Oct 29, 1988 vs Duke L 21 – 31
Nov 5, 1988 vs VMI W 34 – 7
Nov 12, 1988 at Wake Forest L 24 – 28
Nov 26, 1988 at Georgia(15) L 3 – 24

Sep 9, 1989 at North Carolina State L 28 – 38
Sep 16, 1989 vs Virginia(15) L 10 – 17
Sep 23, 1989 at South Carolina L 10 – 21
Oct 7, 1989 vs Maryland W 28 – 24
Oct 14, 1989 at Clemson(11) W 30 – 14
Oct 21, 1989 vs North Carolina W 17 – 14
Oct 28, 1989 at Duke L 19 – 30
Nov 4, 1989 vs Western Carolina W 34 – 7
Nov 18, 1989 vs Wake Forest W 43 – 14
Nov 25, 1989 vs Boston College W 13 – 12
Dec 2, 1989 vs Georgia W 33 – 22

1990 Georgia Tech Football ScheduleDate Opponent Result
Sep 8, 1990 vs North Carolina State W 21 – 13
Sep 22, 1990 vs Chattanooga W 44 – 9
Sep 29, 1990 vs South Carolina W 27 – 6
Oct 6, 1990 at Maryland W 31 – 3
Oct 13, 1990 vs Clemson(9) W 21 – 19
Oct 20, 1990 at North Carolina T 13 – 13
Oct 27, 1990 vs Duke W 48 – 31
Nov 3, 1990 at Virginia(15) W 41 – 38
Nov 10, 1990 vs Virginia Tech(25) W 6 – 3
Nov 17, 1990 at Wake Forest W 42 – 7
Dec 1, 1990 at Georgia W 40 – 23
Jan 1, 1991 vs Nebraska(17) (neutral location) W 45 – 21

1991 Georgia Tech Football ScheduleDate Opponent Result
Aug 28, 1991 at Penn State(3) L 22 – 34
Sep 14, 1991 at Boston College W 30 – 14
Sep 19, 1991 vs Virginia W 24 – 21
Sep 28, 1991 at Clemson(17) L 7 – 9
Oct 5, 1991 at North Carolina State L 21 – 28
Oct 12, 1991 vs Maryland W 34 – 10
Oct 19, 1991 at South Carolina L 14 – 23
Oct 26, 1991 vs North Carolina W 35 – 14
Nov 2, 1991 at Duke W 17 – 6
Nov 9, 1991 vs Furman W 19 – 17
Nov 16, 1991 vs Wake Forest W 27 – 3
Nov 30, 1991 vs Georgia(19) L 15 – 18
Dec 25, 1991 vs Stanford (neutral location) W 18 – 17

I put the end of year ranking next to teams we played those years, too. I’m not sure the strength of schedule during the Bobby Ross era was that much different from CPJ’s. In Ross’s first year, the only victories were against The Citadel and Indiana State.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
4:30 pm

Hey 48 you watching the Brickyard?

WnE

July 29th, 2012
4:30 pm

re:
Ol’JacketFan
July 29th, 2012
4:16 pm

Let’s recap shall we? CPJ has no D1 talent on board, has coached against a watered down schedule, cannot recruit, cannot coach up the players he has. And yet his teams have managed to win 34 games and an ACC Championship since he took over. Oh my the SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s go ahead and give up and move to DIII, perhaps we can win at that level,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sheesh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Did I miss any of your points Lexie? I mean wrexie??????
___________

If you’re happy with 25-28 of those wins being “empty wins” vs. crappy opposition then by all means go right ahead and keep loving the job that CPJ has done, those empty wins are one of the reasons WHY we are 0-4 in Bowl Games.

To re-cap:

1-3 vs. Miami
1-3 vs. Va. Tech
1-3 vs. Muttville
0-4 vs. Bowl Games

3-13 vs. the “meat” of GT’s FB schedule, over Chan’s last 4 yrs. he went 5-11 vs. the same “big four” and earned between $800K and $1.0MM while doing so.

It is hard to believe that CPJ is doing something WORSE than Chan, while making $2.5+ MM per year while doing so.

A doctor would NOT look at one thing (pulse rate for example) and then declare a patient healthy, yet you want to look only at the 34-19 and then claim all is well with GT FB.

CPJ & DRad have quite a cute little sc@m going with a fanbase that is both in denial and doesn’t know very much about big-time CFB.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
4:36 pm

I know lexie, I know, I’ve read your crap before and it has no bearing on W and L. I find Tech infinitely more enjoyable to attend than I did when Chan was there. He had without a a doubt the worst coached teams I’ve ever had to mis fortune to watch. As to dollars paid, I feel CPJ is worth every penny we’ve paid him. I also know you loath everything to do with CPJ and Tech as every thing you post confirmns this. All of us know you’re a GA fan and I get a kick out your feeble attmepts to disguise this. Go play in the freeway and let the adults enjoy a back and forth on realistic issues. Thanks for playing little man. Oh and BTW I’ll put my knowledge about CFB up against most anyone especially children like yourself.

Dawg48

July 29th, 2012
4:39 pm

OJF, yes sir.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
4:43 pm

48 I’ve had the Braves and the Olympics on. Who pulled off the win?

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
5:00 pm

Dawg48 must have enjoyed JJ’s win today.

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
5:01 pm

Richt wining 34 with better TALENT than most teams in the SEC and Johnson winning 34 with less Talent than most teams in the ACC.

That is called EQUAL.
Look at Richts recruiting class rankings the last 4 year compared to the SEC
Look at Johnsons recruiting class rankings the last 4 years compared to the ACC

Johnson does More with LESS and Richt does Less with MORE.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
5:12 pm

Hey, WnE, why don’t you explain the following post you made on a UGA blog ?

WnE
April 1st, 2012
9:38 am
Good to see Scott-Wesley step up at WR coming off of a RS yr., with Mitchell spending time at CB it will be good for him to use the Spring to develop more, he was a raw track guy last yr. now he needs to transition to being more of a FB player.
I didn’t see any stats for C. Conley or M. Bennett, were they shut out or injured?
Also Murray has to eliminate the INTS.!

And you say you don’t give a damn about the dwags? And you CLAIM that you are NOT a UGA fan? Yeah right !!!

You have good things to say about our number 1 rival, and NOT ONE GOOD THING to say about the team you CLAIM represents your alma mater???

EXPLAIN THAT to us, WnE !!!

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
5:24 pm

I like it when he defends Damon Evans…

WnE

March 26th, 2012
4:48 pm
from Ken Seguira

Georgia Tech assistant men’s tennis coach Conor Pollock was arrested Saturday on a rape charge, according to police. He was also charged with possession of cocaine and marijuana.
____________________

I guess my fellow holier-than-thou GT fans will have to stop poking fun at Damon Evans.

It must really be a hard to be a GT fan when you realize that you actually live in a glass house and playing with rocks doesn’t work out very well.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
5:31 pm

Let’s face it, guy, WnE IS A DWAG, and there is no way around it

And on top of that he’s a DAMN LIAR, claiming not to be and claiming to be a Tech fan and grad

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
5:32 pm

guys, not guy

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
5:32 pm

@ SS and High Tech, waste of time guys. lexie isn’t about to address his posts. lexie’s a sad self loathing thing that would rather try and show his “intellect” than admit what he is. There are times I would like to admit he has a valid point or two but then I see the totality of his posts and realize it just ain’t worth it!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
5:34 pm

@ OJF….why do you call him “lexie”? Are you saying that he and Dawg in Lex are the same person? I don’t think so, because Lex DOES make decent posts, or at least I have seen a few by him.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
5:35 pm

LOL@ SS not at all, my daughter has a female cat names lexie and it seems to fit ;-)

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
5:36 pm

DIL is a good person and I enjoy interacting with him!

HighTech

July 29th, 2012
5:37 pm

WTF?

John Patrick Mason ‏@WrecksNEffect
Since everyone is coming down on Penn St., does everyone now owe Miami an apology for the 1987 Fiesta Bowl when they showed up in Fatigues?

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
5:37 pm

@ OJF……ok, but be careful. Your use of that name made me immediately think of Dawg in Lex, and I was somewhat stunned.
BTW, you’re right, he won’t ever address his own comments on other blogs. But I have saved that one particular post on my computer, so every time he comes on here, I am going to ask him about it. If he won’t address it, then maybe he will just shut up and leave.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
5:40 pm

SS like I posted last night wrexie will probably claim a name hijack ;-)

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
5:51 pm

@ OJF……yeah, I’m sure he would try to do that

BTW, he even had the gall to challenge a statement that I made about how industrious, friendly, and happy the African people I met on my trip were. He said the hundreds of thousands of Africans who had been slaughtered by the warlords there were certainly not happy. Of course, that is true, but it had absolutely nothing at all to do with what I said or experienced. He just thinks he is an expert in everything and that anybody from Tech is ignorant in everything. Sure sounds like a DWAG TROLL to me, not to be confused with the decent, classy, and intelligent DAWGS who often post on these blogs.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
5:55 pm

His “intellect” is simply awesome to behold!!! We should all feel fotunate for him to grace us with unending displays of it! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
6:00 pm

@ OJF…..we are UNWORTHY !!! LOL

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
6:05 pm

Now back to the subject at hand, I would love to see Orwin get 15-18 touches a game not including returns. The other A back position is going to the interesting. Do you go a big back i.e. Days or Hill or a quicker back i.e. Godhigh or Bostic? Whoever fills that role will have to block and, I think, that will be the determining factor. As to the B back I see Sims much more comfortable in that role but I bet both Sims and Laskey will be pushing him hard! We can put 3 backs in there that go 200 plus at any given time.

Ol'JacketFan

July 29th, 2012
6:06 pm

Should have been “Perkins and Laskey” not Sims

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
6:07 pm

Yeah, I would love to see Perkins come into his own this year. He was somewhat of a disappointment last year.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
6:14 pm

OK, I’m outta here for some dinner. See you guys later.

wallter braswell

July 29th, 2012
6:42 pm

Where is Vad Lee?

WnE

July 29th, 2012
6:51 pm

re:
5150 UOAD
July 29th, 2012
5:01 pm

Richt wining 34 with better TALENT than most teams in the SEC and Johnson winning 34 with less Talent than most teams in the ACC.

That is called EQUAL.
Look at Richts recruiting class rankings the last 4 year compared to the SEC
Look at Johnsons recruiting class rankings the last 4 years compared to the ACC

Johnson does More with LESS and Richt does Less with MORE.
___________

You can’t give CPJ a mulligan for his “lesser Recruits” since his cr@ppy Recruiting skills are the main reason WHY he has those “lesser Recruits”.

So that cancels out everything, and puts everything back on the SoS.

34 wins vs. a WEAKER schedule is a lesser accomplishment than 34 wins vs. tougher schedules!

5150 UOAD

July 29th, 2012
6:59 pm

UGa didn’t have a tougher schedule the hast 4 years because RICHT had 2 to 3 times the TALENT of 80% of the teams he played.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
7:04 pm

@ WnE……Be a man and respond to my 5:12 post. EXPLAIN YOURSELF !!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 29th, 2012
7:05 pm

Tech was just featured on the CBS Evening News. They did a piece on robotics in today’s society, and part of it dealt with a “robot nurse” being developed at Tech for the care of a young incapacitated man.

Not Disappointed!

July 29th, 2012
8:12 pm

BLT

July 29th, 2012
9:02 pm

Ken, great article…please keep them coming. Go Jackets!

BLT

July 29th, 2012
9:52 pm

“CPJ’s 8.5 wins per season are not impressive given the weak schedules GT has played, but he is able to get away with his cr@p at GT because the Fanbase in not very savvy when it comes to understanding big-time CFB.”

“DRad knows this which is WHY he is working so hard to water down the schedules, so that his hiring of CPJ will look like a good move to a fanbase that doesn’t really know a lot about CFB.”

It’s an inside job. Sort of like 9/11 or the lunar landing eh’ Wrexie? Conspiracy theories abound for you WnE. I know you call it analyzing, but I call it lunacy.

Can’t you just let us enjoy the upcoming football season? Regardless of “grassy knolls”, “inside jobs”, “fake space programs”, and anything else you conjourn up in your crystal ball.

The rubber meets the road in about a month. We will see what happens. Try to enjoy the season. Keep your theories and conjecture to yourself. Thanks and have a good evening.

BLT

July 29th, 2012
10:02 pm

sorry “conjour”

JM

July 30th, 2012
7:55 am

Hope Orwin stays injury free.

G

July 30th, 2012
9:34 am

Another year with tevin at qb = another 6 loss season and boring play.
And yeah get the fumbler days in the game!! The wind causes him to fumble! Don’t groom ant of the young qb’s! So next year can be really good. Let’s keep the same ol same ol and get that 6 win season!!
tevin’s basically the same player he was in 2010. Real smart to keep doing the same failing thing over and over.

WnE

July 30th, 2012
9:58 am

re:
5150 UOAD
July 29th, 2012
6:59 pm

UGa didn’t have a tougher schedule the hast 4 years because RICHT had 2 to 3 times the TALENT of 80% of the teams he played.
_____________

Most BCS Level HCs have admitted publicly that RECRUITING is 75-80% of their job.

According to your idiotic theories, as long as CPJ is terrible Recruiter, even if it is self-inflicted, then in your eyes he will always get away with being held to a “lesser standard”.

Since the HCs main job description includes Recruiting, and the HC is accountable to Recruit well, then having more or less talent “is a wash” and therefore you have to look at how talented the opposition is.

In summary, Strength of Schedule is the ultimate & ONLY tie-breaker to use when comparing HCs that have the same exact W-L Record.

Under your FLAWED ideology, since CPJ is a terrible Recruiter he will always get a built-in “handicap” from you and will always be held to a lesser standard according to you since his OWN FLAWS as a HC (poor Recruiter, poor system) will always lead to him having “lesser recruits”.

Since CPJ is terrible at a major component of HIS JOB, the GT fanbase that thinks like you will always “go easy on him”.

This ideology sits at the heart of the delusional GT fans that support CPJ so vigorously.

macrotech

July 30th, 2012
10:56 am

WnE, I wonder how long a jar of peanut butter would keep you entertained? I hear dogs LOVE some peanut butter! Can I get you a milkbone?

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
11:16 am

@ WnE……you have ignored this request several times already, but I am going to post it every time I see you on here……

PLEASE EXPLAIN the following post you made on a UGA blog —–

WnE
April 1st, 2012
9:38 am
Good to see Scott-Wesley step up at WR coming off of a RS yr., with Mitchell spending time at CB it will be good for him to use the Spring to develop more, he was a raw track guy last yr. now he needs to transition to being more of a FB player.
I didn’t see any stats for C. Conley or M. Bennett, were they shut out or injured?
Also Murray has to eliminate the INTS.!

Why should we believe you are a Tech fan, when you post complimentary things about UGA, whom you have said you don’t give a damn about, and have NEVER posted ONE SINGLE complimentary thing about Tech?

EXPLAIN PLEASE !!!!!

macrotech

July 30th, 2012
12:35 pm

Enquiring minds wanna know WnE…if it wags it’s tail like a dog, barks like a dog, eats it’s own feces like a dog…we KNOW it’s NOT a Yellow Jacket!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
12:52 pm

@ macrotech —- AMEN, brother !!!

WnE

July 30th, 2012
3:05 pm

re:
Supersize that order, mutt
July 30th, 2012
12:52 pm

@ macrotech —- AMEN, brother !!!
_________

All the misdirection in the world won’t change these facts:

in years 3 & 4 with his recruits taking up more slots on the depth chart, GT went 14-12 vs. the 69th & 76th toughest schedules in CFB (very weak schedules).

during his tenure vs. the big-4 CPJ is 3-13 while Chan was 5-11 vs. the big-4 during his last 4 years, Chan was paid $800K to $1.0 mil for that performance while CPJ is scheduled to make $2.6 mil in an Athl. Dept. that is strapped for cash.

1-3 vs. Va. Tech
1-3 vs. Miami
1-3 vs. Muttville
0-4 vs. Bowl games

3-13 vs. the “Big-4″ while Chan was 5-11 vs. the same big-4 over his last 4 years.

The GTAA has paid more for crappier results vs. the meat of GT’s schedule while the ACC has taken a huge step BACKWARDS FB-wise.

Instead of questioning my connections to GT, maybe you should be questioning whether or not CPJ is doing his job & earning his paycheck!

GTVegas

July 30th, 2012
3:27 pm

Wheenie, whiney – From the length of your posts (never read them by the way), it sure looks like you are trying to compensate for something.

Now, back to topic. Given all of the optimism currently being shown by all involved, I just hope that the players/coaches remain focused on the only thing that matters, the next game, week by week. As for preseason optimism, can anyone truly point to many preseason fan bases that are not optimistic, on the whole, with respect to their upcoming season?

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
4:41 pm

@ WnE……once again, you ignore my request to explain your post on Chip Towers’ blog on April 1. Until you give a legitimate and acceptable explanation for how you can praise our rival and NEVER say one good thing about the team you CLAIM to support, then as far as everybody on these blogs is concerned, you are a UGA TROLL !!!!

WnE

July 30th, 2012
5:08 pm

re:
Supersize that order, mutt
July 30th, 2012
4:41 pm

@ WnE……once again, you ignore my request to explain your post on Chip Towers’ blog on April 1. Until you give a legitimate and acceptable explanation for how you can praise our rival and NEVER say one good thing about the team you CLAIM to support, then as far as everybody on these blogs is concerned, you are a UGA TROLL !!!!
__________

I get sick & d@mned tired of re-hashing the same darn thing to different folks.

I don’t hate Muttville when GT isn’t playing them.

In fact, I have gone on record on many occasions on other Message Boards before I was banned and have said that the best thing for GT’s FB program is to beat an 11-0 Muttville Team.

I used the analogy of F$U vs. Miami in the 80s & 90s when both Teams were elite and BOTH TEAMS were elevated in the eyes of Recruits because the Rivalry helped to make both teams more high profile in the eyes of recruits.

Back during those days the top Recruits in Florida all thought the same thing:

Do I go to FSU or do I go to Miami?

A rising tide lifts ALL BOATS, so the better UGA is when we beat them, then the better it is for GT FB, beating weak UGA teams does very little for GT in the eyes of Elite Recruits.

After our 2008 victory, there was no significant bump in Recruiting because the UGA Team we beat was perceived to have under-achieved that year.

It will be better for BOTH PROGRAMS for the GT vs. UGA rivalry to take on a FSU vs. Miami (80s & 90s ) feel than to continue in its current state with one or both teams having off years.

With one or both teams having off years many of the top Recruits in the State are looking elsewhere to play their CFB and it is hurting GT recruiting-wise more than it is UGA.

If our rivalry takes on more of a FSU vs. Miami feel from the 80s & 90s then the Recruits in this State are more likely to choose GT or UGA and with scholly limits at 25 each Feb. this will boost GT’s recruiting since they all can’t go to UGA.

With the rivalry in its current state many of the Top Recruits in GA. look at USCe, Auburn, LSU, Florida etc rather than looking at GT and UGA first & foremost.

I’m thinking big picture while you guys are so filled with hate towards UGA that you can’t think straight.

My dream scenario is that both GT & Muttville enter the game with 11-0 records and all the top Recruits in Ga. are pondering do I go to GT or UGA rather than thinking about USCe, Bama, Auburn, LSU, Tenn, Florida, etc.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
5:14 pm

Sorry, WnE…..that does NOT explain how you can go on the rival blog and PRAISE their players’ efforts and never say one damn good thing about anybody or anything at Tech.

BLT

July 30th, 2012
5:46 pm

WnE, your post from April was all “glowing” in it’s apraisal of UGA. You never (and I mean never) have one decent thing to say about Georgia Tech. Tech hires a ST coach and you say he blows. Tech gets some decent recruits and they are “tweeners”. Tech fans defend the program from the dog attacks and you side with the dogs. No one has to be brilliant to figure out you hate Tech. Now run along little doggie.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
5:52 pm

Thanks for confirming my opinion, BLT

GT Lee

July 30th, 2012
6:11 pm

“I get sick & d@mned tired of re-hashing the same darn thing to different folks.”

yet you incessantly post crap like this:

1-3 vs. Va. Tech
1-3 vs. Miami
1-3 vs. Muttville
0-4 vs. Bowl games

GT Lee

July 30th, 2012
6:12 pm

must not get too sick and tired of that, huh DWAG?

GT Lee

July 30th, 2012
6:14 pm

Gollum, how bout you re-hash WHY YOU STALKED VAD LEE ON TWITTER

WnE

July 30th, 2012
6:23 pm

re:
GT Lee

July 30th, 2012
6:11 pm

“I get sick & d@mned tired of re-hashing the same darn thing to different folks.”

yet you incessantly post crap like this:

1-3 vs. Va. Tech
1-3 vs. Miami
1-3 vs. Muttville
0-4 vs. Bowl games
____________

Are those stats accurate?

Enough said!

CPJ “earned” those stats no reason to hide them!

WnE

July 30th, 2012
6:23 pm

re:
GT Lee

July 30th, 2012
6:11 pm

“I get sick & d@mned tired of re-hashing the same darn thing to different folks.”

yet you incessantly post crap like this:

1-3 vs. Va. Tech
1-3 vs. Miami
1-3 vs. Muttville
0-4 vs. Bowl games
____________

Are those stats accurate?

Enough said!

CPJ “earned” those stats no reason to hide them!

Ramblin Man

July 30th, 2012
7:16 pm

I know I am just a simple minded GT fan but WnE says on page one he does not care about the dawgs then he defends a love post he wrote about the dawgs on page 4. Now I skipped almost all the posts so maybe I missed something.
I will freely admit I am concerned for the 2012 season with concerns on the D-line and lack of experience at WR, but I would not bash the coach, players, and recruits every chance I get.

Ramblin Man

July 30th, 2012
7:22 pm

WnE what was Gailey’s record against those teams? What is CPJ’s record against the other teams GT plays? Same old broken record my friend. Offer solutions what available HC do you want to see at GT?

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
7:34 pm

@ WnE…..since you can not provide a legitimate reason why you posted effusive complements about the mutts on Chip Towers’ April 1 blog, and yet try to tell us that you don’t give a damn about the dwags, then it should be obvious even to the simplest of minds that you are nothing but a dwag troll. Your opinions (I repeat, OPINIONS) are worthless, and I will no longer read or respond to anything that you post. I urge all other TRUE Tech fans to do the same. You are a non-entity in my mind from now on. NEXT !!!!

BLT

July 30th, 2012
7:52 pm

“Offer solutions what available HC do you want to see at GT?”

Oh NO! Don’t go there! He wanted Rick Neiheisal (sp?) first, then it was Baylor’s coach. Who knows what he’ll come up with next. He hates CPJ with a passion (almost like it’s a religion) and the TO.

We should probably take Supersizes’ advice and ignore him. Many others give the same advice. It’ll be hard but we should try.

Ramblin Man

July 30th, 2012
8:00 pm

BLT most have missed that, which makes sense because I rarely read what he posts anymore.
Anybody want to lay odds on Groh getting Kallon on the field for obvious pass plays to try and get a better pass rush? I hear Days is looking promising in this area as well.

BLT

July 30th, 2012
8:31 pm

I hope Kallon is not RS and gets playing time. His HS film is great. One of the best is him dragging the opposing RB backwards. I laughed out loud it was so funny. Days will get the chance to bring the hammer!

Can’t wait for football season! Go Jackets!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
8:33 pm

@ BLT……it will definitely be difficult to totally ignore WnE, but I am going to try my hardest to do so. Hold me to it, and if you decide to do the same, I will hold you to it also. He is really not worth our time, even for sarcastic retorts to what he posts.

BLT

July 30th, 2012
8:54 pm

Will try my best Super…

Supersize that order, mutt

July 30th, 2012
9:05 pm

@ BLT…….if you see me make some kind of post to him, call me on it. Remind me of what I said

GTVegas

July 30th, 2012
11:07 pm

Who is “him”?

I’m joking, the guy has some really serious issues, delusional and and self-denying at best. I never read his post, but I do notice how long they are. I hope he keeps it up because it makes them that much easier to identify and ignore.

Jack G

July 30th, 2012
11:33 pm

I still dont like Paul Ball—–Our only hope is that DRAD leaves and takes CPJ with him

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
12:00 am

@ Jack G…..why don’t you just leave instead

GTfan2012

July 31st, 2012
1:03 am

No sense in ignoring WnE, but instead we should actually provide information that puts his drivel in context. Remember, WnE provides only information that supports his anti-CPJ positions. I’ll now post CPJ’s record against some other teams.
4-1 vs. Clemson
3-1 vs. UNC
2-0 vs. FSU
Doesn’t look so bad anymore does it? Cherry picking is so easy, isn’t it, WnE?

dry dirt road

July 31st, 2012
7:08 am

I don’t think the kicking game is the way the get Orwin his yards, or any running back their yards. The kicking game is not really any showcase of running. All the other players have to block all the defenders rushing in, and it just isn’t all that expected to work for a kick receving team. The probability coefficient of large yardage gains from kick receiving at Tech and all NCAA schools is probably lower than that of pass receiving for yardage gains.

dry dirt road

July 31st, 2012
7:10 am

When Bo Jackson got his yards, he got them from running plays and not kick receiving.

dry dirt road

July 31st, 2012
7:14 am

correction: “I don’t think the kicking game is the way for Orwin to get his yards”

dry dirt road

July 31st, 2012
7:27 am

Any Ga Tech football player who might like to transfer to the coolness of Blacksburg where they can take their coed dates/fiancees/wives out to cool, scenic, leaf change wooded Appalachian national park picnics and find the most remote place in park for 100% privacy has to expect that Va Tech accepts in state students first and primarily, so the probability coefficient of transferring from the heat of outdoor Rose Bowl field practice to Blacksburg is about .01. Just try running wind sprints after such practices with CPJ blowing the whistle to start sprinting at goal line down to other goal line…about 10-20 times. You’ll get in shape for Va Tech game.

dawgfan

July 31st, 2012
9:41 am

Tech fans do not take criticism very well. They love to portray UGA fans as delusional and overly zealous about their football team, but dare question Paul Johnson’s credentials and you will quickly be dismissed as a “hater” with no facts to back up your argument. The facts are plentiful and obvious: He is having a hard time beating the better teams on Tech’s schedule ever year. That is a perfectly reasonable observation, but Tech fans simply do not want to hear it. Meanwhile, if a UGA fan says something like “I think our O-line will be improved this year” the insecure ears of the typical Tech fan hear “UGA will win the next 10 national titles and demolish every thing in its path.” They have mental problems. I’m convinced of it.

This is very much a true story. Tech fans are a gas man.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
10:19 am

@ dwagfan……do you really think anybody on here gives a rip what you THINK. Move along, little boy

macrotech

July 31st, 2012
10:35 am

dawgfan…it’s not that we don’t appreciate criticism. We’re just not interested to hear it from outside opinions. I laugh at you pointing out CPJ is having a problem beating ‘the better’ teams….seems like this is a shared problem by your own coach. IF a Tech fan goes on a blog about CMR, you’d be quick to attack that outside opinion. uga fans are ALWAYS optimistic at the beginning of the season to the point that they buy into the ‘we’re going to win it all THIS season’…y’all are FAMOUS for this. It’s the same every year…it’s as if someone fake tossed the National Championship ball and you all take off in pursuit….ONLY to find that it was never thrown in the first place! My favorite part of all this is when you all get that same look that a confused dog gets when it’s realized that nothing was ever tossed. We’re Tech fans….we will always stand up for our team. JUST like you’ll stand up for yours….YOU being on a blog about a Tech player, which you never make mention of in your visit, is the ‘gas’, man. Thanks for stopping by…could someone open the window? dawgfan, you need to reconsider your diet….another nc just crawled up your pooper and died!

dawgfan

July 31st, 2012
10:48 am

“We’re just not interested to hear it from outside opinions.”

That’s exactly my point Captain Clueless.

“I laugh at you pointing out CPJ is having a problem beating ‘the better’ teams….seems like this is a shared problem by your own coach.”

I fully and wholeheartedly agree. You must have missed the part where Richt was a couple of losses away from getting fired not that far back. You must have also missed the part where he did not get an automatic raise this year. You must have been living in a cave when almost every UGa fan on the face of the earth was calling for his firing after are 0-2 start last year. We are fully aware of the deficiencies in our coaching staff and our program. We don’t hide from it, nor do we dismiss the opinions of “outsiders” who point it out to us. Simply put, we don’t suffer from the same “head up the azz syndrome” that Tech fans seem to battle.

“uga fans are ALWAYS optimistic at the beginning of the season to the point that they buy into the ‘we’re going to win it all THIS season’…”

That is a lie. This is a myth that Tech fans have created. I am aware of no UGA fan that thinks we are going to win it all this year, and I know many UGA fans. This is just a lie that Tech fans have pulled out of their azz. Go to the UGA blogs. You will hear plenty of talk about our problems on the O-line, Murray’s turnover problems and our lack of a big time running back. Tech fans have voices in their heads. You need to seek help.

If you want to see blind delusion, go check the comments on the Virginia Tech breakdown blog. Your garbage football program is 2-6 vs. Virginia Tech since they joined the ACC, but to hear the typical Tech fan tell it they are your peer and this is a hotly contested rivalry. They own you like a rented mule.

macrotech

July 31st, 2012
11:01 am

bark, bark, bark, etc…..I just spent time telling you that we don’t care about outside opinions….WHY are you still barking? Can we get you a milkbone?! As your “Captain”….I command you to sit

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
11:12 am

Time for DABO to be a JERK……
Dabo pull all the Offers for R..PIMP..N and his Grayson Hoes.

CUT your losses and walk away. be a Good Christian and explain that You don’t think RN has Christian Values he espouses and needs to go look elsewhere.

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
11:16 am

Supersize

I have been rooting for Tech for over 80 years , I see no reason to leave now.

It seems as if you and other johnny come lately techies dont want anyone to dissagree with your love affair with CPH. If in fact you went to Tech, use a little of what they taught you and analyis the football progam instead of blindly following the myth that CPJ spouts.

My loyalty to Tech is well known. However, just like my kids, Ilove them dearly, But i dont have to like everything they do.

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
11:18 am

put a muzzle on dwagfan when he finishes that MilkBone…….

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
11:20 am

hey dwagfan, CMR have a bowel movement lately? Have you reported its contents to Chip Towers and Bill King?

dwagfan = CMR’s Official Poo Inspector

Thanks

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
11:31 am

JACK G. How OLD are YOU? 80 years cheering for TECH? Minus 6 to 8 years as a Child that doesn’t know how football really works you have to be almost 90! They let you the NET at the Nursing Home? you type well and have a good mind still. I am impressed.
If you get out to the games stop by the BUS and come meet up with a bunch of us before the game.

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
11:32 am

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
11:56 am

5150
I am 88 years old and go back to the days of Coach Alexander.
No nursing home yet but who knows what the future holds.
Thanks for the invite to meet at the BUS, but must decline. While I am not in a nursing home, I do have a few problems, and walking is one of them.

JG

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
12:42 pm

Jack G….sorry you can’t make it. Would love to have you and hear some stories. What part of TOWN do you live in? We might have somebody that would be glad to get you to a game and i have a wheelchair you can use. Just a thought.

GTfan 2012

July 31st, 2012
1:01 pm

Jack G,
What is it about this “Paul Ball” that you don’t like? “Paul Ball” is all about finding ways to maximize your talent for the best possible outcome. If you are indeed 88 years old as you claim, then you will understand that GT has long had a hard time attracting the elite level talent that others in the Southeast can (its why we left the SEC after all) You will also understand that the history of football is in the running game and not this pass wacky thing that passes as football today. Remember only three things can happen when you throw a forward pass, and two of them are bad.

Seriously though, I am a big fan of running the ball and stopping the run, and I believe that if you can do those two things, you will win a lot of footballl games. Just look at the best conference in football right now, the SEC. What do all the top teams in the SEC do well? Run the ball and stop the run. Do you think it is coincidence those are the best teams in CFB?

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
1:07 pm

Enter your comments here

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
1:14 pm

5l50—sory for the blank post—-hit the wrong key, I appreciate the generous invite, but walking isnt my only disability. Among some of my other problems is a heart condition that keeps me out of exciting situation, and I do get excited a football games.
Just try to keep Supersize under control and calm him down a little. Just let him know that everyone that disagrees with him is not an Idiot.—-As an after thought, Invite WnE to meet at the BUS in my place ( that should be interesting)

jg

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
1:28 pm

GTfan2012—–I like balanced football. Running, Passing and hardnose defense. I do not like lopsided Running nor do I like lopsided passing. I like the ability to do both.
If you mention Pass around CPJ, he will have your mouth washed out wit lye soap.
The man is a mono maniac.
You also need to go back and investigate the reason Tech left the SEC.
your info is not correct, and i will let you do the research. I dont like to typing well enough to educate you

jg

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
1:32 pm

@ Jack G…….I commend you for your long time support of Ga Tech. I am NOT a johnny-come-lately, as you indicated. I have been a Tech fan since the 50s and graduated from Tech in the 60s. I apologize for coming down so hard on you, but your initial post sounded too much like that made by a troll or a johnny-come-lately Tech fan who doesn’t really know much. I know that CPJ is not perfect, but neither was Dodd. I LIKE his offense (Paul Ball, as you call it), and I think it will pay off big time now that he’s getting the type recruits he wants. Could he get even better ones? Well, it would be nice if he did, but as UOAD pointed out, recruiting at Tech has NEVER been easy. I like what CPJ is able to do with what he has, and I look for more of the same. Personally, I think Paul-Ball is exciting as hell to watch….no more so or less than any other well-executed type of game, but exciting none-the-less. I’m sorry you don’t agree, and I’m sorry to hear that you are not able to attend the games in person. I hopefully have a few more years in me, but the drive up from Augusta DOES get old.
GO JACKETS !!!

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
1:34 pm

Jack G…………WE have invited WnE to meet on many occasion but he NEVER accepts.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
1:38 pm

@ Jack G…..you questioned GTfan2012’s reason for why Tech left the SEC. Dodd did it for several reasons, and recruiting WAS one of them, mainly because of the way the Bear recruited and then kicked players off scholarships, something that was not prevented by the NCAA. He also pulled Tech from the SEC because of other “antics” by the Bear….notably his refusal to even acknowledge the VICIOUS late hit by Darwin Holt on Chick Granning in 1961. Unfortunately, though, I think Dodd’s main reason for pulling Tech from the SEC was greed. He thought Tech could be the Notre Dame of the South and pull in big bucks. Unfortunately, he didn’t (or couldn’t) schedule opponents that would have helped him reach that goal, and then suddenly we were left totally without a home.

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
1:49 pm

Jack G…if you don’t know WHY GT left the SEC then you need to read your history again.

Was it a GOOD Decision? Yes & No.
The SEC chose to sellout Academics to be a minor league for the NFL where EDUCATION is so far down the list of priorities if has to make you laugh.

Class and Higher Education left the SEC so long ago it makes you sad.

DawginLex

July 31st, 2012
1:55 pm

Ken your filters suck

dawgfan

July 31st, 2012
2:03 pm

“The SEC chose to sellout Academics to be a minor league for the NFL where EDUCATION is so far down the list of priorities if has to make you laugh.”

Or maybe the SEC just doesn’t want to be a sore loser bitter crybaby that makes up excuses and lies about how academics and athletics cannot successfully co-exist. Maybe the SEC strives to be good at EVERYTHING and not just the things that come easy to it. For the life of me, I do not understand how Aaron Murray’s ability to throw touchdown passes or Jarvis Jones’ tackling ability affects the quality of a UGA degree. Can one of you geniuses please explain this to me? So maybe there are 50 or so players on the football team that could not get in to UGA if they did not play football. Oh the horror!!!! What on God’s green earth does that have to do with the TENS OF THOUSANDS of other students that attend UGA? How has UGA sold out by letting 50 guys out of 30,000 in to play football?

Good grief Tech fans are the biggest freaking joke in the history of the universe. Whine, cry and make excuses. Its all they know how to do. Unbelievable.

Good day.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
2:10 pm

@ dwagfan…..you talk about being a crybaby, and making up excuses. The dwags are the biggest whiners in ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!! EVERYBODY knows it except fools like you.

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
2:12 pm

OK dwagfan……….You are GOD. UGa is Christ, but neither of you WIN games that matter. UGa sucking the tit of the SEC is getting OLD. Breakout and Stand on your own. Stand for Better and PROVE UGa isn’t what Jan Kemp proved you to be.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
2:14 pm

So you are happy that 50 or so guys play football at UGA, and some of them probably can’t even write their name on a piece of paper. OK, maybe that’s a little bit of an exaggeration, but still, for there to be fans of any college who are proud to be represented in any way by kids who wouldn’t even be in college if they didn’t play football is what’s wrong with college football in this country today.

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
2:20 pm

5150 and Supersize
Go back and read my post. I said that GTfan2012 didnt have it right. Scollys did play a part, but Supersize got it right. Dodd got greedy and thought Tech would be the Notre Dame of the south. He made a big mistake.
I think Dodd was a great coach so I guess he is entitled to one mistake. ha ha
I dont think it was recruiting because Dodd didnt seem to have much trouble getting good recruits. Red W. (former atheletic director of City of Atlanta) once told me that Tech checked grades of all football prospects before they tried to recruit them which of couse cut out some good football players)
I do know that SEC wanted Dodd to withdraw Scolly’s for some of the Tech players already in School, and Dodd refused.

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
2:29 pm

OK JACK G…..better understanding of you point.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
2:33 pm

Thanks, Jack G. As long as we are both Tech fans, we can disagree on some points but remain on civil terms. Sorry again for the curt response I made to your original post. I think Dodd was a fantastic coach but a TERRIBLE AD.

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
2:44 pm

Supersize—-no problem—we are still friends.—–Your analysis of Dodd is spot on.

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
2:52 pm

Note on Dodd. Dodd and Ed Danforth were always poormouthing Tech and puffing up how great Tech’s opponent was each week, and I asked Bobby North about thatand his reply to that was that’s not what Dodd tels us at practice

GTfan 2012

July 31st, 2012
2:52 pm

Jack G,
I was by no means citing that recruiting and the lack of level playing field were the ONLY reasons GT left the SEC, but clearly they played a heavily into the decision. I actually agree with Supersize as well, which doesn’t at all change my previous comments. I was merely pointing out that those factors and that lack of level playing field vis a vis most of the rest of the BCS level schools in the Southeast still stand.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
2:57 pm

@ Jack G……LOL at your 2:52 comment about Dodd.

We’ve just got to convince you that “Paul Ball” ain’t so bad. I actually like it a lot. We just need a sound D to go along with it, and I THINK that’s falling into place now. Of course, we also need more consistent passing, but remember, when he was at Hawaii, he did a LOT of passing, and passing was also a big part of his TO offense when he was at Ga Southern. The problem is not CPJ…..it’s the QB’s he has had at Tech so far.

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
3:12 pm

Jack G. You’ve got 20 years on me and I so much love the fact that you care so much about GT that you have come on here to express your thoughts and put us young whippersnappers straight. I have had back, hip & heart problems and been retired by them. I am much better now and went to my 1st GT game, in Hell Paso, in so long a time, I can’t really recall what year it was. At least 35 years ago. I hope to see you here from time to time. I wish you the best. Stay healthy, my friend.

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
3:15 pm

The champion of poormouthing was the much esteemed dwag coach dooley–and he learned from Dodd.

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
3:17 pm

Damn, water polo has got to be so exhausting!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
3:28 pm

@ 1 4 GT……Bob Costas said before the match that it had to be the most grueling of sports. One of the USA players (or maybe a coach) agreed.

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
3:31 pm

SS–all that “work” staying afloat–kinda like football in 1 foot thick mud.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
3:32 pm

@ 1 4 GT……exactly. Although really more like rugby than football

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
3:32 pm

CPJ told his players if you want to pass more, get better at it…..they’ve been practicing it this summer

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
3:35 pm

US Women won Gold in gymnastics

Big Crimson 75

July 31st, 2012
3:35 pm

Super — It would be great for Bama & Tech to play again!!
It’s actually a shame a lot of young college football fans have no idea the history between the 2 Programs. The Rivarly(Bear v. Dodd), the connections(Bill Curry).

BTW, my 2 cents on GT leaving the SEC — it was all about segregation. When GT left the SEC, they were still segregated, but much like Tulane, they knew it was impossible to remain segregated being based in a large urban Southern City with a growing black population.
Just don’t tell GTbob, I like razzing him GT left because they were scared of the competition!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
3:36 pm

I sorta wish CPJ would hire a QB coach to work exclusively with the QB’s on their technique….especially passing. I knew it wouldn’t happen, but I was wishing that he would hire Friedgen back as the QB coach. Can you imagine what he would do with those guys???

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
3:38 pm

Crimson……all former “hatred” for the Bear aside, I wish we still played each other too. The rivalry actually goes back much further than Dodd and the Bear. Tech and Bama were the premiere football programs in the south for many many years. You even mention Tech in your fight song.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
3:40 pm

I don’t know if segregation played any part in the decision or not, but unlike the Georgia legislature, Dodd was not averse to Tech playing teams with black players on them, and I’m sure if he had stayed as coach, he would have begun recruiting black athletes; Carson, who succeeded him, did almost immediately.

Big Crimson 75

July 31st, 2012
3:53 pm

Sup — Both were before my time, but as a historian of College Football, I don’t think either is gonna be confused with Branch Rickey.

Big Crimson 75

July 31st, 2012
3:55 pm

Yo Ken S, you gotta relax a little dude.
Your filters are too harsh.
I’m trying to rip wne a new one over here…………

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
3:57 pm

Crimson, I don’t understand your reference to Branch Rickey

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
4:00 pm

Super,

Branch Rickey signed Jackie Robinson and others

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
4:02 pm

Rickey put the 1st black player in MLB==Jackie Robinson.

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
4:03 pm

In 1947=I’m pretty sure of the year..

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
4:05 pm

ahh, ok. Thanks

Big Crimson 75

July 31st, 2012
4:07 pm

Lee — very good point, ….and others!!
Those Brooklyn Dodger Teams also featured Don Newcombe & Roy Campanella.

Jack G

July 31st, 2012
4:09 pm

Supersize—-Rickey broke the color line with Jackie Robinson in baseball

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
4:09 pm

he also drafted Roberto Clemente

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
4:14 pm

Rickey was Dodgers—Robert played for the Pirates

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
4:17 pm

Big Crimson 75

July 31st, 2012
4:17 pm

I guess their is no “Branch Rickey” for Southern Football Coaches?
I suppose the Federal Laws passed in ‘64 forced the hand of most Institutions in the South.
I’ve never heard of a Coach in the South that bucked the trend before segregation was “acceptable”, maybe the guy at SMU?? Wasn’t He recruiting black Players before every-one else in Dixie?

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
4:29 pm

GT Lee wants to be my DATE for the GT Fan Day. Should I be sacred? LMAO!!!!!

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
4:35 pm

I believe you can start the integration of college sports in the south with the defeat of Adolph Rupp & the #1 ranked all white UK Wildcats for the national championship of college basketball in the NCAA tournament in March, 1966. The Texas Western Miners (University of Texas @ El Paso) started the game with an all black starting 5 team. Of course, the Ky. Gov. tried to stop the team from playing an integrated team. Rupp began recruiting black athletes for the following season. I can’t say about SMU. But the NCAA BB tourney of 1966 was the defining thing in college coaches minds about needing black players in order to remain competitive.

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
4:36 pm

scared or sacred—GT Lee is a good guy but God he ain’t

Supersize that order, mutt

July 31st, 2012
4:43 pm

The first MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION came for the 1956 Sugar Bowl when Governor Ellis Arnall tried to prevent Tech from playing Pittsburgh because Pitt had a black player on the team. Dodd and the student body at Tech prevailed, and Tech played and won the game.

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
4:59 pm

Skeered……LOL
Any of you going to Fan Day?
If you are and are season ticket holder then you should have a Coupon to get you to the Front of the Autograph Line.

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
5:01 pm

Q.) What TEAM had the FIRST Black Starting QB in the south?
A.) you can watch him every time you see the movie “RUDY”

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
5:10 pm

1 4 GT

Branch Rickey was GM of Pittsburgh Pirates from 51-55 AFTER HE LEFT THE DODGERS…..I stated that he DRAFTED Mr Clemente

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
5:17 pm

5150 Eddie McAshan!! GT Lee–didn’t recall Rickey GM’ing Pirates. Just the Dodgers (Brooklyn variety, that is).

BLT

July 31st, 2012
5:18 pm

“UGA eyed 19 Penn St. players’

That’s a headline in this paper. The jokes write themselves. Sorry, I know it lacks class but geez.

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
5:26 pm

Rickey is also credited with introducing batting helmets and starting the minor league farm systems…..ok, enough baseball, back to CFB

GT Lee

July 31st, 2012
5:32 pm

“GT Lee wants to be my DATE for the GT Fan Day”

Damn, didn’t realize riding a MARTA train with someone was considered a ‘date’……maybe I’ll just take a cab instead!

BLT

July 31st, 2012
5:32 pm

Boise State vs. Michigan State, the bookends to last years UGA team.

OldSchoolTechFanatic

July 31st, 2012
8:29 pm

Im glad Orwin is better. He may not be the best back ever at GT but he is a great player.

5150 UOAD

July 31st, 2012
9:28 pm

Gotsis in on the FLATS…..

HighTech

July 31st, 2012
9:48 pm

If you want to see blind delusion, go check the comments on the Virginia Tech breakdown blog. Your garbage football program is 2-6 vs. Virginia Tech since they joined the ACC, but to hear the typical Tech fan tell it they are your peer and this is a hotly contested rivalry. They own you like a rented mule.
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How does one own a rented mule? Dwagfan is the master of mixed metaphors. He is obviously barking up a dead horse’s ass.

duece coupe

July 31st, 2012
10:11 pm

A pain free 10.1 yards per carry and 23.5 yards per catch.

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
10:27 pm

Now that right there is funny High Tech, I don’t care who you are!!

1 4 GT

July 31st, 2012
10:28 pm

Dead horse’s ass!!!! ROTFLMFAO

GTfan2012

July 31st, 2012
11:38 pm

O. Smith is a great player and he’s an ideal A-back with his combination of strength, speed, balance and hands. But I’m under no illusions he is an elite RB. I’d still like to see a CJ Spiller or Kenyan Drake type athlete at A-back.

Jeanelle Throssell

August 1st, 2012
12:17 am

secret recipe

WnE

August 1st, 2012
7:56 am

re:
GTfan2012
July 31st, 2012
11:38 pm

O. Smith is a great player and he’s an ideal A-back with his combination of strength, speed, balance and hands. But I’m under no illusions he is an elite RB. I’d still like to see a CJ Spiller or Kenyan Drake type athlete at A-back.
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In order for that to happen CPJ will have to Recruit a Drake or CJ Spiller type to play A-back, RBs with that kind of pedigree can do much better FB-wise than playing A-back for CPJ and averaging 6 touches PER GAME if they are standouts like Orwin, lesser A-backs might avg. 3 touches per game for their 3 or 4 year career.

Try going in the living room of a Drake or a CJ Spiller type talent with that kind of track record.

CPJ might be a hero to you middle -aged GT fans, but he isn’t perceived that way among the elite Recruits herein Ga. that DO HAVE the Academics for GT (like Kenyan Drake that signed with Bama).

Just maybe the guy you call a “genius” is so stubborn with his gimmicky “system” , that he is hurting his own Recruiting efforts, no big time Recruits at B-back OR A-back since he arrived at GT is proof of this.

GTfan 2012

August 1st, 2012
9:02 am

WnE,
Are you really using Kenyan Drake as an example of CPJ’s recruiting failings? So CPJ is a bad recruiter because he lost a highly rated RB to Alabama?!?!?! I guess Mark Richt is a bad recruiter, too, because he’s lost quite a few highly rated, in-state players to Alabama. The more you talk, the stupider you sound.

Supersize that order, mutt

August 1st, 2012
9:20 am

@ GTfan2012 —- IGNORE HIM !!!! He’s not worth your time

WnE

August 1st, 2012
10:30 am

re:
GTfan 2012
August 1st, 2012
9:02 am

WnE,
Are you really using Kenyan Drake as an example of CPJ’s recruiting failings? So CPJ is a bad recruiter because he lost a highly rated RB to Alabama?!?!?! I guess Mark Richt is a bad recruiter, too, because he’s lost quite a few highly rated, in-state players to Alabama. The more you talk, the stupider you sound.
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You made the original post where YOU came up with the idea of dreaming about guys like Kenyan Drake or CJ Spiller playing A-back for GT.

At that point I then introduced you to the REALITY of WHY CPJ can’t recruit those types of A-Backs.

You opened the “Pandora’s Box”, and then once I showed you what was inside, you want to criticize me.

If you don’t want to hear the TRUTH, then don’t “dream” about Recruits that CPJ will never be able to “close the deal on”!

BTW, while CMR was losing those in-state guys he was able to bring in:

Crowell 850+ yards as a T-Fr. in the SEC

Marshall 5* Recruit among the Top-3 RBs in the country by EVERY Recruiting Service
Gurley 4* Recruit among the Top-5 RBs in the country by MOST Recruiting Services

While CMR was losing those in-state guys he was able to bring in those 3 RBs in CONSECUTIVE RECRUITING CLASSES.

2 of them — Marshall, Gurley were Academic Qualifiers for GT BTW.

Comparing CMR’s recruiting “failures” to CPJ’s is very misleading!

GTfan 2012

August 1st, 2012
1:35 pm

WnE,
You THINK we can’t get a highly rated RB to come play A-back because the A-back position doesn’t touch the ball enough. I am merely trying to point out that you sound stupid when you cite the examples that you do. Kenyan Drake went to Alabama, because Alabama is one of the top rated programs in the country, not because he didn’t want to play A-back. In fact, he isn’t going to play RB at Alabama, so your point in that regard sounds even dumber.

I still believe we can get an elite athlete to come play A-back at GT, and I believe that day is coming sooner than you think. Is it an uphill battle to get an elite RB to come to GT, yes…. BUT I think it can happen. I think you are way off base in how you look at the A-back position, but then I expect that from someone who not really a FAN of GT. Elite SEC quality RBs aren’t being recruited for the A-back position, most of those are being recruited for the B-Back position. The smaller guys are typically looking at other positions (slot WR, special purpose back, kick returner) at least at most SEC schools. Honestly its an uphill battle with both types of guys because the pull of the SEC is always going to be great. I’m glad you brought up Gurley and Marshall, there is a reason why everybody keeps suggesting that Gurley may be the more SEC ready back… its simply his body type and size.

I think O. Smith having a break out year in 2012 could go a long way to showing potential recruits the appeal of the A-back position.

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