Paul Johnson prefers 16-team playoff
GREENSBORO, N.C. - To Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson, the adoption of a four-team playoff to determine a national football champion is merely a step in the right direction.
Johnson, who won two FCS (then Division I-AA) national championships at Georgia Southern by outlasting 16-team fields, said he would prefer a similar format for FBS.
“You take 11 [conference champions] and then you add five at-large [teams], give ’em a chance,” Johnson said this week at ACC Media Days. “If your conference hasn’t done well, you become the 16th seed. You have to go play against No. 1, but at least you had a chance.”
Of eight ACC coaches who were surveyed, three agreed with Johnson in expanding the format, although they favored an eight-team playoff instead of Johnson’s 16. Two professed a wait-and-see stance and two would like to stay at four.
Besides Johnson, those favoring expansion liked the idea of giving champions of the five “power” conferences – ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC – access into the field along with three at-large teams.
“If you win a conference with 10 wins, then you ought to be able to play for a national championship,” N.C. State coach Tom O’Brien said. “If you go to eight teams, you can probably accommodate something like that. At four, that might not be good.”
Miami coach Al Golden and Virginia coach Mike London also supported expanding to eight teams.
“You’re talking to a guy that won the national championship [at Richmond] among 16 teams,” London said.
While an argument against a larger playoff holds that the regular season’s importance would be diminished, Golden contended that the automatic bids for conference champions and the chase for an at-large bid would retain the regular season’s importance.
With a four-team field, “one loss and you’re out for the most part,” he said. “But now you’re saying you’ve got to win your conference or apply this formula to be one of those next three [at-large teams]? I think that would be incredible.”
Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher and Clemson’s Dabo Swinney like a four-team playoff. Fisher allowed that an eight-team playoff could give a team more leeway to overcome an injury-plagued stretch of the season, but pointed to the NFL for a reason against it.
“Does the best team during the regular season win the Super Bowl?” he asked. “Most of the time, not.”
Both Fisher and Swinney minimized the need for an additional playoff round by contending that conference championship games are de facto playoff games.
“I think what we have really protects that regular season and it also adds a little bit of flavor to the end of the postseason and maybe solves a little of the debate,” Swinney said. “I personally don’t think we’ve spent a lot of time arguing about the fifth and sixth team. I’m sure that’ll happen, but it’s been more the second, third, fourth team.”
Neither Boston College’s Frank Spaziani nor Wake Forest’s Jim Grobe were sure. Grobe cautioned that an eight-team playoff would create a considerable physical burden for players.
“I think if we went to eight, we’d have to cut back to 11 games [in the regular season], get one of those games off the table maybe,” Grobe said.
Spaziani said he didn’t know why playoffs were necessary in the first place.
“The [BCS] system was [considered] so bad, yet college football was going like this in attendance, excitement,” he said, raising his hand in an upward arc. “TV exposure went up and up, [but critics said], ‘It stinks! It stinks!’ … I don’t know. What’s wrong with that?”
Starting in 2014, the college football world will find out. And if Johnson wants to lead the Yellow Jackets into a 16-team playoff, he’ll have to wait until his 19th season to do so. The four-team format is contracted to run through the 2025 season.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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Road Scholar
July 24th, 2012
8:09 pm
“Florida State’s Jimbo Fisher and Clemson’s Dabo Swinney like a four-team playoff.”
Until they are the 5th team …
Oh, gee...
July 24th, 2012
8:29 pm
Prosecutor: Man ‘groomed’ kids for sex
Former Ga. Tech computer technician allegedly abused children he knew….
Oops…
GT GRAD
July 24th, 2012
8:32 pm
8 team playoff makes to most sense…..end of story.
macrotech
July 24th, 2012
8:46 pm
Oh, gee…, I guess the key word is ‘former’. Right up there with professors going on shooting sprees, huh?
macrotech
July 24th, 2012
8:48 pm
For the record, I like the 8 team playoff….I don’t see how it would diminish the regular season anymore than a less than .500 record would.
1 4 GT
July 24th, 2012
8:52 pm
I tried to tell ‘em the way to go was an 8 team playoff. But they wouldn’t listen!!!!
Tech Fan Since 1950
July 24th, 2012
9:00 pm
We love Coach Johnson for a number reasons. Number one he is both smart and fair. He won national championships in a division where the NCAA has a playoff system plan that is sane. Unfortunately, the new playoff system for Division I (or whatever you call it these days) is still a fraud and even a bit insane, but maybe it is a beginning for something better down the road. Sure wish the NCAA could act as tough against the old BCS crowd as they did against Penn State. At least come up with a fully sponsored NCAA playoff system for Division I that makes sense.
BIrmingham Jacket
July 24th, 2012
9:07 pm
16 playoff won’t help if you don’t recruit.
CPJ is paid 7 figures for the job, and doesn’t do that.
YOU CAN ONLY SCHEME SO MUCH!
RECRUIT THE 4-5*.
WnE
July 24th, 2012
9:36 pm
If there were a 16 team playoff there’d be less money to pay for his $2.5 million contract since the regular season would have to be cut by 2 games plus the CCGs.
That means that the Conferences will have less inventory to sell to the networks, and that means less money for the schools at the BCS level.
Less money means less pay for HCs.
Under CPJ’s plan a 16 team playoff would dilute the payoff to Conferences because all the smaller crappy conferences would be included and the money would be split among 125+ D1-A Teams.
Under the current format the BCS conferences can MAXIMIZE their TV revenues and still pick up a few extra dollars from a playoff………….ergo a win-win.
Under CPJ’s plan a lose-win.
Something tells me that CPJ didn’t major in Business or Finance at W. Carolina.
Good thing he’s found a way to make a good living by teaching guys to dive at another guys’ kneecaps.
At the max a playoff at the D1-A level will only have 6 or 8 teams.
HighTech
July 24th, 2012
10:07 pm
Here is the best playoff plan…
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/the-doc-sat-playoff-plan-2011-bracket-engaged?urn=ncaaf,wp11266
DesignerJacket
July 24th, 2012
10:08 pm
“Oh, gee” the words “former computer technician” make all the difference from those such as “alumnus,” “graduate,” “professor,” “coach,” or “student.” Has your company ever fired a janitor or some other auxiliary position for criminal offenses? I bet they have. I bet UGA has too. Shoot, everyone from global companies down to your local Wal-Mart deal with that kind of issue. Just doesn’t seem like GT’s problem. He is, however, the kind of sicko that needs to be dealt with swiftly and harshly. I hope Dekalb handles that decisively and with no mercy.
TechRon
July 24th, 2012
10:12 pm
I knew there had to be something that PJ and I agreed on. I have been saying that a 16 team playoff is the right way to go for 10 years. Incorporate the existing bowls to make it happen. GT has no worry about being in it, though, unless they develop a passing attack.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 24th, 2012
10:14 pm
He was probably a FORMER employee of several other places as well, but that doesn’t mean that the sleaze-ball crap he did is a reflection of any of those places. He may have also been a FORMER employee of Macy’s or GSU or some church. For all we know, he also was a former employee at UGA. So what!. It doesn’t matter in the least. No matter where he worked, he is a pervert who deserves the full punishment accorded such creeps
TY
July 24th, 2012
10:16 pm
I wonder why???? When will Tech ever be in the top 4?
Bad Dawg
July 24th, 2012
10:22 pm
When it comes to football, I don’t agree with that trade school on North Avenue about much. However, I completely agree with Coach Johnson about this one. I can’t believe they don’t have a 16 team playoff system. Let them play and let’s see who the best team and conference is. Talk is cheap, it takes money to buy whiskey.
Flying Tiger
July 24th, 2012
10:27 pm
@WnE. Really man, he bother you that much? Does the man really bother you that much? Man get a girlfriend a wife a hobbie, for God sake go fishing. You sound like a boy with a problem. Good luck man hope your blood pressure lets you live to your 30 or so. Geez.
DesignerJacket
July 24th, 2012
10:38 pm
WnE will be campaigning against every little thing CPJ does or says until the day the man no longer works at Tech. Then whoever is hired next is going to be the devil incarnate to him unless he’s Bobby Dodd reincarnated. Then again, Dodd’s boys could cut block something fierce!
spider
July 24th, 2012
10:40 pm
the reason paul wants a 16 team playoff instead of a 4 team playoff is because no way in the world would GT ever make it to the final 4 but 16 maybe an outside chance.
spider
July 24th, 2012
10:40 pm
hey flying tiger, did you work for them?
RocketCityJacket
July 24th, 2012
10:45 pm
High Tech – I really like the 10 Team playoff.
DesignerJacket
July 24th, 2012
10:50 pm
TY, probably within the next four or five seasons if we see improvement from our defense and special teams while keeping the O-line recruiting on the upward trend. Tech’s option game paired with a good defense really would be a scary thing to behold. Clock-killing option drives from a Top 3 rushing offense followed by three-and-outs from the other guys? No one wants to be on the other end of that! If you can’t keep the ball, our offense will drive it slowly down the field for points ALL GAME. It’s a death sentence when we have a good defensive game! Ask Clemson. Ask Kansas. If Tech’s defense can eventually build up to a Top 20 level, Tech could easily have an 10 win or better season and have a shot at the Top 4 and a playoff.
Paul in NH
July 24th, 2012
11:00 pm
“Under CPJ’s plan a 16 team playoff would dilute the payoff to Conferences because all the smaller crappy conferences would be included and the money would be split among 125+ D1-A Teams.”
The mathematics here are pretty simple. There are currently 6 AQ conferences + ND that control the BCS – this is a total of 70 schools. Conservative estimations are that a CFB playoff would triple the amount of money paid out compareed to the current BCS. 3/125 > 1/70
spider
July 24th, 2012
11:31 pm
every time i see a +ND anything i want to go and throw up.
GatorNation
July 24th, 2012
11:38 pm
@Spider… I hate to be the one to tell you, but you overrated mutts will never make it in the top four either with LSU, Alabama, USC, Oregon, OlK.. and so on. Maybe you should push for expanded playoffs too! LOL
dap01
July 24th, 2012
11:39 pm
CPJ figures that the larger the playoff system the better his odds of getting in.
16 teams are way too many, this is not a basketball tourney.
dap01
July 24th, 2012
11:45 pm
CPJ should worry about filling up that empty high school stadium at Tech and not worry about a NC at this time.
The stadium is a small stadium in the middle of a large population and you can walk up to any game and get great seats (behind a pole or two perhaps). Be careful in the parking lots.
MaconDawg
July 24th, 2012
11:52 pm
I haven’t read each comment in its entirety so I may be duplicating here. I like an 8 or 16 team play-off personally. I would think that CPJ might favor the 16 team playoff due to the system he runs. If Tech (or his next team) were to be in the top 16 (even at a 16) it could create nightmares for a higher seeded team with them having only 1 week to prepare for the tripple option. It would give any CPJ coached team a better than average chance of advancing and even possibly winning a NC. With a 4 team playoff, the odds are not in his favor of being in the top 4 very often. Top 16? That’s plausible. I can assure you that teams like BAMA and LSU would rather face each other than a tripple option team with only a week to prepare. After all, Georgia Southern put more points on the board against BAMA than LSU did (in 2 games). The tripple option is a nightmare to prepare for (especially in one week), and I don’t care what anyone thinks about it being a high school offense or not. With a 16 team format, all you have to do is run off 4 in a row without any team having a month to prepare for the option and he wins a NC at the D-1 level to go with the one he won at Southern. No, I don’t think the tripple option is the best system over the long haul but for a short span, it could be the right recipe.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 24th, 2012
11:53 pm
dap01, perhaps you don’t remember when Sanford & Son Stadium was a tiny stadium in a hick town, and periodically they had to play games at Grant Field just to attract a crowd. And that, bubba, was as recent as the early 60s.
Cody
July 24th, 2012
11:57 pm
Georgia tech will need a 64 team playoff if they ever hope to get in. 10 out of 11
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
12:06 am
UGA will have to leave the SEC if they ever hope to get in.
DesignerJacket
July 25th, 2012
12:13 am
Cody and dap01, no matter what you say, you will not change reality and make Georgia Tech magically become Duke or Wake Forest. No, we haven’t beat the dwags in a while, and, no we haven’t made a habit of it. But just because your team is focused on a national title lately and has a huge following doesn’t mean Tech isn’t a darn good team in a darn good location. God help you and the rest of our opponents if our recruiting ever breaks through to the top levels and we’re still running option spread with a 3-4. Ask your own players if they enjoy preparing for that game!
www
July 25th, 2012
12:22 am
i like CPJ’s 16 team idea. it works just fine at the DII level and the winner is actually recognized by the governing body (ncaa) as national champs.
an 8 team playoff should be the next step.
4 teams playing bowl games then the winner playing for the MNC isn’t a playoff, it’s a plus one. not the same at all.
North Ave Killer Beez
July 25th, 2012
12:55 am
If Tevin is going to be the starter, we better hope for a 64 team playoff like hoops. Still may not have a shot. What is Johnson thinking?
DesignerJacket
July 25th, 2012
1:13 am
North Ave, the best way to put it to you is that Tevin will be pulled if he doesn’t produce the passing numbers in the first two quarters of play. His leash will be shorter with so much speed and passing ability behind him on the roster. We have to play basically the whole division at the beginning of the season. If we don’t pass efficiently (not often, just efficiently), then we have to try another QB and other receivers. CPJ will do what we need to do to win games.
Jacket Man
July 25th, 2012
6:34 am
Let’s see; the NCAA (and the fans for that matter) LOVE March madness, which I believe has more than four teams competing, and also, RIGHT NOW, baseball, golf, tennis and track and field teams include more than four teams in their championship(s) matches. As mentioned in the article, even the lower “tiered,” NCAA sponsored, football Championships, more than four teams are invited to participate. So why is it that in the biggest stage of them all that these aren’t able to handle the rigors every other sport (or even the same sport but at a lower division) can? Are the Division One players less intelligent? Is their time more valuable? Is their course load harder? What, pray tell, makes them so much more special than every other collegiate athlete?
For Paul Johnson, playoffs are about “at least”. | Get The Picture
July 25th, 2012
6:52 am
[...] Johnson is in favor of a sixteen-team playoff. Of course he is, bless his heart. And for just the reason you’d expect. “You take 11 [conference champions] and then you add five at-large [teams], give ’em a [...]
gbal
July 25th, 2012
6:58 am
8 team playoff
Win your confrence (big 6) and your in IF you finish in the top 12 per the BCS formula system.
BCS formula determines at large teams.
GOAL – Best 8 teams are in.
Comon PJ….. 11 confrence winners auto in???? I mean the ACC champ last year was ranked 16 going into bowls? Then got 60 plus hung on em. WhaT A JOKE 1 VS 16 WOULD BE….. Best teams in the playoff wheather its 4, 8, or 16
Honestly
July 25th, 2012
7:09 am
Any ACC coach should be calling for a 16 team playoff. That’s honestly their only hope of getting in. Did they really think that raiding the Big East would make them competitive? I thought there were supposed to be smart people in the ACC? Not so much, apparently.
GT
July 25th, 2012
7:15 am
The wonderful thing about an ACC school they have rich alumni, the real reason we have colleges in the first place. They do not depend solely on the gate and television and in doing so do not compromise the academics as far as a Penn State or so many others. The NCAA is like a Catholic priest to the mob, window dressing to a world of evil. What made college football great was its grass root American makeup. What will ruin it is its corruption and political machinery.
FishFry
July 25th, 2012
7:26 am
CPJ thinks if there are 16 teams he might have a shot.
Honestly
July 25th, 2012
7:33 am
FishFry,
If CPJ really wants a shot at the playoffs, then he should be calling for 64, rather than 16 teams.
D
July 25th, 2012
8:01 am
I agree with CPJ. Why did they have to make the 4-team format through 2025??? *Head Desk*
HighTech
July 25th, 2012
8:01 am
Glad to see so many UGA fans worried about what CPJ says. Means they are either still sore about 2008 or they are worried about the GT game this year.
Uncle Tom
July 25th, 2012
8:10 am
D———-You’re right. We’re still upset about 2008. We shouldn’t lose to Tech more than once every 20 years—-about the Vanderbilt ratio.
GT71
July 25th, 2012
8:11 am
Thank you, Supersize. I am just old enough to remember UGA playing in ATL. Not old enough to understand why, but the dim memory is there.
But don’t get too up tight about the UGA stuff – it’s just their form of ad hominem attack – if you can’t dispute the facts, aim at a likely but tangential target.
Besides, I’ll take quality over quantity every time…even in ice cream. But then, I am getting old.
Regarding playoffs, whatever comes next must be an improvement. But in the end, I’d take a good, representative team educating and graduating its players, keeping them healthy and maintaining a ‘clean’ record over any NC.
why?
July 25th, 2012
8:12 am
“Honesty”, the ACC expansion was focused on bringing more revenue and becoming the best basketball conference. Not everything revolves around football. BOOM ROASTED
BULLDOGMANIAC
July 25th, 2012
8:19 am
Sure he favors a 16 team playoff…..That would be the only possible (and slightly at that) way of Tech to ever be in the playoffs.
Birmingham Jacket
July 25th, 2012
8:27 am
CPJ needs to stop worrying about a playoff and focus his efforts to sign us a recruiting class that actually cracks the top 50.
crackbaby
July 25th, 2012
8:34 am
One of the biggest problems with playoffs is the polls, specifically pre-season polls. Remember two years ago, after Alabama lost 8 or 9 starters on D, they were No. 1 in the pre-season polls. Even Tony Barnhart wrote ‘em up as the preseason fave.
Tide lost at least 3 games that year, but didn’t fall out of the top 10 in the polls until their 3rd loss.
Pollsters are the biggest flaw in the system.
crackbaby
July 25th, 2012
8:37 am
@ B’ham Jacket
Did you really grad from Tech? Seriously, don’t buy the recruiting class hype. Coach Spurrier used to beat Goff’s dawgs all the time with “lesser” recruits. Darth Visor also let everyone know about it, too! LOL.
Sam Houston
July 25th, 2012
8:37 am
Back when the conferences played 10 games everyone in the conference played each other, so at the end of the season you had a real champion. Since the conferences had less teams everyone had to play each other and could not schedule a bunch of cupcakes to boost their win column.
When play-offs were mentioned the answer was, to many games for the student athlete. But the next step the colleges took was to add one more game and some years later one more.
This means every school must play two extra games a year, verses a few schools having to play a game or two extra trying to win a national championship.
Bottom line the big boys couldn’t handle what the smaller colleges had been doing for years.
The smaller colleges have had their playoff and named their champion before the big boys even start their bowls. Sometimes having a four , five or six week break.
What the bowl system had become is rewarding teams for a 6-6 record and let them go to a bowl game and loose money and plaly before a half filled stadium.
Wal-Mart Retards
July 25th, 2012
8:38 am
Why do the low-life in-bred hamandegger Bullfrawgs on here like the idea of a 4-team playoff? It’s simple. They can only count to 4.
Birmingham Jacket
July 25th, 2012
8:50 am
@crackbaby
Yes, I did. Season ticket holder for 12 yrs.
The difference is, Johnson’s “lesser recruits” don’t beat Richt’s Dawgs!
gbal
July 25th, 2012
8:55 am
Can go with the 16, though I think 8 is the right number. But 11 confrence champs getting an auto invite? Com’on CPJ. Talk about creating some blowout games and wasted spots.
Be it 4, 8, or 16 teams in a playoff, the goal should be to have a system that insures the highest liklihood possible of capturing the best X # of teams in the nation to determine a winner of the NC on the field. It wont be 100% accurate and there will always be a bubble…but effort to get the best in the field, not “GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE” Com’on CPJ.
Bottom feeder confrrences will argee…. Everyone should have a chance.
Top tier confrences will agree…. Best teams should be in.
The true fans…. will want best teams IN
Strange Murphy
July 25th, 2012
8:59 am
Why does Paul even care? Not like Tech would ever make it.
gbal
July 25th, 2012
9:01 am
Look at the BCS system and rankings going into the bowl games.
The system got it right on 80% of the bowl games…. Meaning….
82 % of the bowl games….. the higher BCS ranked team won the bowl game.
The there exceptions… #2 Bama beat #1 LSU…. UGA looses to M.ST, and one other….
Thats a fact an a pretty good %.
Let the BCS formula pick the top 4, 8, or 16…. and let em play.
Hey HighTech
July 25th, 2012
9:02 am
One win against the Dawgs in how many years now?
gbal
July 25th, 2012
9:11 am
Everyone has a chance…. Before a season starts, not at the end.
Field a good team, schedule quality opponents, win your games against quality opponents….
Theres your chance! Not at the end of the season when you went 10-3, lose to GT, NC State, and SC but won your weak confrence….
TDS
July 25th, 2012
9:27 am
They don’t have conference champ games in the small school league.
Also with conferences expanding, it will make it harder to really determine a winner cause half the teams won’t even play each other and some teams like ga this year will get a soft and unfair advantage in scheduling. 16 teams is way too big. With the current conference format, 4 is fine but if we get these mega ones, 8 would be enough. When wake beat gt that year in the worst conf champ game ever, can u imagine that team playing bama or lsu. lol
Mike
July 25th, 2012
9:30 am
I like the fact he is for it, but I think it would be too hard to fit 16 into the bowl system. 8 is where it should stop. You could take the top 6 conference champs (or 6 current ACQ champs) with 2 at large bids. One at large would be given to Notre Dame if they qualify. Those 8 would be your BCS bowl teams. Play the first round the week after conference championship games. The four winners play New Years day in two BCS bowls for a shot at the National title a week later. The four losers play in the other two BCS bowls.
Mike
July 25th, 2012
9:34 am
Personally, I’m fed up with the coaches, administrators, and fans that want to coddle the most broken post season in sports. The regular season is not a playoff. it never is. 1-AA opponents or FBS bottom feeder teams or even average opponets that litter every team’s schedule dont make a playoff. Only quality opponents will be there. No one in college football currently plays a 3-4 game stretch as tough as a 8-16 team playoff would be….NO ONE.
Ramblnwrek
July 25th, 2012
9:55 am
I believe the main reason you wont see Div 1 playoff the resembles the Div 2 is the number of season games. Each team would have to give up at least one home game. That is a lot of money to the big schools. I remember reading somewhere, that Florida has seven home games every year. Which is why they are against the 9 game SEC schedule. It would mean that every other year they could only have 6. When you are not playing at home, you dont get the money. Try to get Texas and Ohio State to give up a home game. Not saying it couldn’t happen, but I dont see it.
Freezekalo
July 25th, 2012
9:56 am
I think going to an 8 team system works best.
Every year you have teams who jump out of nowhere into the rankings because they got a good system and players coming together and doing well in their conference.
Look at Stanford three years ago. In 2008, they were 5-7. In 2009, they were 8-4 and played in the Sun Bowl, which many mediocre teams do. And then Stanford wasn’t even ranked at the top of the season, but Andrew Luck and company started playing well, went 11-1 & made it into the Orange Bowl and blew out Virginia Tech.
So teams can emerge as potential national title contenders out of nowhere. And having a 4 team system only captures those who were in the top 10 at the beginning of the season who has 1 loss and possibly didn’t even win their conference – example of Alabama from last year.
So I believe the 8 team system that would open up the field with some at-large births would be better because a true contender can start out in the season as nobodies and whoop a ranked foe in the Orange Bowl.
The 4-team system will capture the top 10 teams and that’s it. But an 8-team system is more exciting and opens the field up for better games and a TRUE champion.
Freeze
Cliff Claven
July 25th, 2012
10:03 am
Of course he wants a 16 team playoff. Then Tech has a chance to make it every year and can do some damage since it’s difficult to prepare for their offense in only a weeks time. Glad he’s looking out for himself and not college football as a whole.
CFB Fan
July 25th, 2012
10:03 am
I am looking for someone to shoot holes in this scenario.
My non-poll solution to the current situation is two-part. The first part is to create 12, ten-team conferences (currently there are 11 Division 1 FBS conferences). The teams will play a total of 12 games (9 against the teams in the same conference, 2 against out of conference opponents to account for any current out of conference rivalries, and 1 against an FCS school). The season will start on the last Saturday in August and end on the Saturday before Thanksgiving. The second part of my solution begins when the regular season ends. Each of the twelve conference champions will receive automatic berths in a 16-team playoff. The remaining four teams will be selected in the following format:
1. Best record of the remaining teams
2. Head-to-head results
3. Total points allowed
4. Total yards allowed
5. Fewest penalties
You will notice that after the first two tie-breakers, I used two defensive statistical rankings rather than offensives statistical rankings to eliminate the need for teams to run-up the score to improve its chances of making the playoffs if it finds itself in a situation where it is subject to tiebreakers.
This format will use 15 of the 34 bowl games currently played, giving meaning to some otherwise meaningless bowl games. The games will be rotated among the following bowls, with the Rose, Fiesta, Orange, and Sugar rotating among the semi-finals and finals with the odd team in the quarterfinals.
Round of 16 Quarterfinals
Chick-Fil-A Sun
Texas Las Vegas
Little Caesars Gator
Outback Rose (BCS)
Cotton
Insight
Alamo
Holiday
Semi-finals Final
Fiesta (BCS) Sugar (BCS)
Orange (BCS)
Wilson Pickett
July 25th, 2012
10:04 am
You might get to 8 teams over time but you will never get the Presidents to go for 16. Beside the players can’t handle that much at Division 1.
@crackbaby…Bama lost three games in 2010 but was without a doubt one of the best teams at the end at the end and finished in the top 10. LSU by a touchdown and Auburn by one point. Give USCe all the credit for kicking Bama’s azz with almost a perfect game from the drunk QB and great playing from their defense as well.
JK
July 25th, 2012
10:05 am
The 4 team playoff is as perfect as it can get. There is no way the best team will be left out. The regular season will stay intact. The athletes involved will still be able to focus on academics rather than playing in a tournament style championship. Everybody wins. Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HighTech
July 25th, 2012
10:07 am
Hey HighTech
July 25th, 2012
9:02 am
One win against the Dawgs in how many years now?
—————————————-
1 out of 4 since CPJ became the coach. Thanks for caring.
Freezekalo
July 25th, 2012
10:13 am
@Cliff Claven
I am sure that CPJ didn’t say that so Tech could get int the top 16 to have a shot. GT will get the ship righted again and could easily jump up into the top 6 as it did in 2009-2010 when we are clicking on all cylinders.
But I think CPJ like the 16 game model because he has seen the effectiveness of it at the D-II level. I mean I watch the D-II games every year and it is exciting to watch.
Don’t forget, D-I football is the ONLY NCAA sport to not have a playoff at all. And so he is someone of the voice of reason and has seen what it takes to win a title with a 16 team playoff and has the right to claim it.
I don’t know if the same can be said for many other D-I coaches…
Freeze
JK
July 25th, 2012
10:14 am
@Wilson Pickett – Agreed, there is no reason to put the players through that much physical punishment at D1 level. They already go through enough. They already added an extra game not too long ago. Now the championship game will add another game for the two best teams. Enough is enough. As for Bama in 2010…sure that was a good team but the truth is, they didn’t deserve to play for a championship. Gotta prove it in the regular season. If feel that Bama also did not deserve to play in the BCS last year. They lost to LSU in the regular season. UGA would have a couple championships since 1980 if they were given the same opportunity as Bama was given last year. Under this format, that won’t happen any longer.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
10:15 am
@ Birmingham Jacket……you continually bemoan the “fact” that CPJ “can’t recruit,” and therefore can’t beat the dwags. You probably think Gailey did a better job recruiting, although IMHO that happened in only one particular year, and yet his teams didn’t beat the dwags either. So how do you account for that?
CENTBACKER
July 25th, 2012
10:24 am
This is how the 16 team playoff would have looked like last year:
(1) LSU (SEC Champ)
(16) Louisiana Tech (WAC Champ)
(8) Wisconsin (Big Ten Champ)
(9) South Carolina (At Large)
(5) Stanford (At Large)
(12) West Virginia (Big East Champ)
(4) Oregon (PAC 10 Champ)
(13) Southern Miss (C-USA Champ)
(2) Alabama (At Large)
(15) Northern Illinois (MAC Champ)
(7) Arkansas (At Large)
(10) TCU (Mountain West Champ)
(6) Boise St. (At Large)
(11) Clemson (ACC Champ)
(3) Oklahoma St. (Big 12 Champ)
(14) Arkansa St. (Sun Belt Champ)
Only a couple of intriguing match-ups in that first round in Wisconsin-South Carolina, Arkansa-TCU, and Boise St.-Clemson, others would be yawners. So how is this better?
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
10:28 am
16 teams would be the only actual fair way to do it. Maybe then the NCAA would actually recognize the champion. Anything less and we are still guessing who the best team was.
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
10:35 am
So how is this better?
Every team could actually play their way into the playoffs instead of hoping that a bunch of old men at ESPN think they are good enough. Most of the teams in the FBS right now cannot possibly win a championship. Do you think that is a good thing?
Freezekalo
July 25th, 2012
10:41 am
@GTBob
Agreed! Agreed!
Master
July 25th, 2012
10:42 am
11 conf champions? is he on drugs? 3/4 of the conference champs are crap.
Master
July 25th, 2012
10:43 am
You’re an idiot Bob.
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
10:45 am
@GTBob
16 teams would be the only actual fair way to do it. Maybe then the NCAA would actually recognize the champion. Anything less and we are still guessing who the best team was.
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16 teams is not the fair way it just increases the chances of an ACC team getting in.Under the four team system we may never see ACC team get in because of the weakness of the conference.
Master
July 25th, 2012
10:46 am
Too many conferences and teams in div 1. They need to widdle it down to about 64 teams and 4 conferences and then you can have a real playoff. Saying La tech or toledo or some wac or mtn west team is on par with the big conf schools is a joke. That’s the problem. Need to have tiers for college football. The smaller schools need to be in their own division.
gbal
July 25th, 2012
10:49 am
CFB Fan – My thought is that confrences would have to be totally realigned to make them even as far as quality of teams. This will never happen.
There are so many teams in college football that parity among confrences and teams is just not condusive to a system like this.
It works in the NFL…. Fewer teams and there is a DRAFT that helps to somewhat equalize confrences and teams. PARITY Also the league dictates out of division schedule based on previous years performance in an effort to neutralize the strength of schedule issues..
The NCAA D1 is just too big to work like this.
The BCS formula in my opinion actually did a pretty good job of ranking teams. Look at W-L records over the season and in about 83% of the cases, the higher ranked teams won. Thats pretty good %.
I think the BCS system in combination with an 8 team playoff with the big 6 winners getting in IF they end the season ranked in the top 10-12… then a couple of at large…. this would insure the best tteams in the nation are in the playoff and we have a great tournement to decide the final outcome.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
10:54 am
Master……If those conference champs are crap because of weak competition then they will not win so why do you care.
What conference champs in the playoffs will do is to spread more of the competition and recruits around. Not every great kid will just think of the SEC. IMO
Anderson
July 25th, 2012
10:57 am
I actually agree with GT CPJ that the four team playoff is merely a step in the right direction. I think four teams is too few as I would have liked to have seen at minimum a six team playoff format with the top two teams having a bye game.
I can see CPJ’s logic for a 16 team (11 conference champions and 5 at large teams) playoff format. It would obviously have to mean slicing a couple of games from the regular season. Personally, I do not have a problem with that.
HighTech
July 25th, 2012
11:00 am
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
10:45 am
@GTBob
16 teams would be the only actual fair way to do it. Maybe then the NCAA would actually recognize the champion. Anything less and we are still guessing who the best team was.
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16 teams is not the fair way it just increases the chances of an ACC team getting in.Under the four team system we may never see ACC team get in because of the weakness of the conference.
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I can understand why some would think this. Also, it is not likely that a C-USA team would ever beat a SEC “Superpower” in a playoff scenario. It’s never happened in a bowl game, has it?
gbal
July 25th, 2012
11:03 am
5150 – Just because in theory, when you get to a playoff, you always want the best teams in that playoff. Thats logical? I mean several of the 11 cnfrence champs were not even ranked at the end of last season an others were very low. You just want as competqive a playoff as you can possibly have.
gbal
July 25th, 2012
11:03 am
5150 – Just because in theory, when you get to a playoff, you always want the best teams in that playoff. Thats logical? I mean several of the 11 cnfrence champs were not even ranked at the end of last season an others were very low. You just want as competqive a playoff as you can possibly have.
Fan of the Game
July 25th, 2012
11:09 am
I really loved the old days when nobody really cared who the National Champion was. Sure you had final rankings but there just wasn’t that much emphasis on it. You played your regular season and then if you had a good year you were rewarded with a bowl trip. Certain conferences were locked in certain bowls. You had the Southwest to the Cotton, SEC to the Sugar, Big 8 to the Orange, Pac 10 and Big 10 to the Rose. These were big time rivalries and alot of pride in defeating the other conference. You also had smaller bowls which rewarded teams that didn’t win the conference championships. Bottom line was that it was fun for the fans and especially the players being rewarded for a good season. I wish we would go back to this. You aren’t filling stadiums today because of teams dreaming for the National Championship games, you are filling them because of college football being a great game and social event. The NCAA fell into this ESPN trap. They are running college football and raking in the money. Look over the last 10 to 15 years only a few teams actually compete for the National Championship. Lets do what is best for all go back the way it use to be.
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
11:09 am
16 teams is not the fair way it just increases the chances of an ACC team getting in.Under the four team system we may never see ACC team get in because of the weakness of the conference.
That’s perfectly fine. I really don’t care if the ACC makes it in the 4 team or 16 team playoff. However, if not every team can win a championship simply by winning football games then you don’t have an actual championship. You have the year end ESPN invitational tournament.
dawgfan
July 25th, 2012
11:14 am
Under Johnson’s plan the ACC Chump will get preferential treatment over an SEC team that won 11 or 12 games but didn’t win its conference. It happens ever year: 2008 Alabama. 2009 Florida. 2010 LSU. 2012 Alabama. The ACC Chump should get in automatically while outstanding teams like that have to hope for an at large bid? Simply laughable. Those 4 teams I just listed would have crapped all over the ACC Chump during those years. It sounds like communism or affirmative action to me. It sounds like Paul Johnson wants a hand out. Maybe he should think about beating Georgia and winning a bowl game and then we’ll start listening to what he has to say about a playoff. No free lunches. This is America Jack.
Class dismissed.
CFB Fan
July 25th, 2012
11:16 am
Master
If so many conferences are crap, why not create a new division that only includes teams from the 6 “power” conferences and move the rest of the conferences to their own crap division? Otherwise, if a team is in the FBS subdivision, then why should they start off the season with no chance to play for a championship (see Boise State)? Even if Boise ended the season undefeated, they would have most likely been excluded from the National Championship game. I here arguments about strength-of-schedule, but I do not factor that into who is the best team because, ultimately a team has no control over that, and here’s why.
Let’s say that today (end of July), I have the ability to create the schedule for UGA, and I want to make sure that I have the highest strength-of-schedule of any FBS team. I go out and schedule the top 12 teams from last season. Now, let’s fast forward to the end of the regular season, and UGA is undefeated, AND all 12 teams that UGA scheduled end up with 6-6 (or worse) records. Should UGA be punished (by possibly not being chosen to play for the National Championship) because its opponent’s ended up with poor records?
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
11:16 am
This summers Iron Jackets
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151114349287667&set=a.39990422666.72937.704432666&type=1&theater
Alphare
July 25th, 2012
11:18 am
CPJ sounds logical to me. But the thing is, even the current 2-teams system is OK with me. One of the reasons college football is so popular is because people arguing so much which teams are the 2 best teams. 4-teams may still cause lots of controversies and thus talk, but a 16-team can quiet lots of people and thus less talk.
But is less talk a good thing or bad thing?
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
11:18 am
US Women’s Soccer v France game at 11:30 on NBC Sports.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
11:19 am
Jay Inyoface Finch It’s not just lifting but 435 on bench 400 on clean and 550X3 on squat
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
11:20 am
Under Johnson’s plan the ACC Chump will get preferential treatment over an SEC team that won 11 or 12 games but didn’t win its conference.
You really think an 11-12 win SEC team is not going to get one or more of the 5 at large bids?
gbal
July 25th, 2012
11:20 am
CFB — Sorry, but you are out there buddy.
Joker
July 25th, 2012
11:22 am
What a joke. Tech coaches, players, or fans needn’t worry at all about the playoff format unless it become a 32 team event. They can watch it on TV after getting throttled by UGA, then maybe playing in the AA high school championship, aka, ACC Champ. game.
Master
July 25th, 2012
11:31 am
CFB fan
I wrote that in the next post. Hello???
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
11:32 am
JOKER….don’t you have a movie theater to shoot up or bomb to make?
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
11:33 am
CFB Fan, you are right on the money. College Football for the most part is just the same teams playing each other every year. Teams will schedule maybe one quality out of conference opponent every year and that is scheduled well in advance with a hope that they will be good when the game actually happens. Its a bit of a joke. That’s why I laugh when I hear people say that an RPI system should be used in college football. It would never work.
Joe 12-Pack
July 25th, 2012
11:44 am
PJ is out of touch with reality.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
11:53 am
Master posted: “They need to widdle it down to about 64 teams and 4 conferences and then you can have a real playoff.”
hmmm, maybe Master should educate his “widdle” brain first and learn the English language. It’s WHITTLE, dummy, not WIDDLE. Ignorance like that gives you no credibility at all
gbal
July 25th, 2012
11:55 am
8 teams … Big 6 confrence winners IF they finish in top 10-12 ranking by a BCS system (no…Hell No to the committee). Other at large filled based on BCS ranking.
BULLDOG STEVE
July 25th, 2012
12:07 pm
Fish Fry will have his wishes in the next couple years when he is back in 1-AA or whatever they call it now.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
12:13 pm
UGA will stand a remote chance of winning a NC when they leave the SEC, and only then
ARdawg
July 25th, 2012
12:45 pm
I can agree with Moobs with just about everything except, the ACC being a “power” conference doesn’t really gel
ARdawg
July 25th, 2012
12:47 pm
Unless of course Conference USA and the Mountain West are power conferences too?
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
12:58 pm
Unless of course Conference USA and the Mountain West are power conferences too?
Well UGA lost to a Mountain West team last year and a Conference USA team the year before that so they must not be too bad, right?
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
1:00 pm
@ GTBob…..certainly more power there than in Athens, right?
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
1:14 pm
It appears that way Supersize. Either those conferences aren’t too bad or UGA is not a good representative of the SEC. I’m not sure which.
HighTech
July 25th, 2012
1:24 pm
UGA is a football “Superpower.” I read about it in the AJC so it must be true.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
1:26 pm
LOL @ HT
dawgfan
July 25th, 2012
1:26 pm
Might want to go check UGA’s record against the ACC within the past 10 years or so there fellas. It ain’t pretty. We pretty much have blank check to say whatever the hell we want to about the ACC.
But have fun living vicariously through Conference USA and Moutain West teams. Georgia Tech football isn’t a total joke at all. Where would anyone get that idea?
Hilarious.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
1:29 pm
I heard UGa dWags will win the National Championship this year. I heard that for years and many years it was true, but S. Yoculan don’t coach the gymnastics team anymore.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
1:31 pm
dwagfan……how’s CMR’s poo looking today?
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
1:36 pm
dWagfan……. living vicariously through the GOOD SEC teams that WIN championships must be fun for you.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
1:45 pm
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The guy that isn’t afraid to wipe a tear from your face.
The guy that isn’t so self-fish that he wouldn’t share his shoulder with you.
The guy that knows that Christ is the only way to true peace and happiness.
The guy that makes you feel like you’ve known him for years… yet today’s our first encounter.
The guy that loves to laugh and knows when and how to make you smile.
The guy that people love to hate and make a big deal out of every little thing he does.
The guy that is focusing on his future more than ever now.. because he fell off not so long ago and he needed it… but is back!
That guy named ~ Francis G. Kallon ~
I really like this young man
Mike.Duke
July 25th, 2012
1:56 pm
I swear. All you uga people on here need to get back to work–greeters, everybody. I give you a job so you can make your TV payments and you do this. I want to know who translated for you on the computer anyway. Must have been the fry-cooks at the deli.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
2:08 pm
Francis G. Kallon
6 hours ago near Atlanta
Great last day of summer training… we bonded as a team today, and ain’t nothing gon’ stop us come 9/3 !! GEORGIA TECH vs. VIRGINIA TECH
Mike.Duke
July 25th, 2012
2:09 pm
Hey, 5150, is Dierks Bentley paying you a commission?
CFB Fan
July 25th, 2012
2:11 pm
Master @11:31…..Your post had not yet refreshed on my screen when I submitted my post.
Big Al
July 25th, 2012
2:15 pm
I don’t know why Paul Johnson is worried about making the playoffs. He has not come anywhere close yet and is not likely to any time soon.
Joker
July 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
5150 UOAD- I won’t even think of quoting your remarks. What a jerk-off you are. NO CLASS. Don’t give a rip of you a re DAWG or TECH fan. Uncalled for numb nuts!
Joker
July 25th, 2012
2:23 pm
I hope all of you here, DAWG and TECH haters, take a good look at 5150 UOAD’s comments and blast him for it. We can all have a little fun jabbing at one another, but 5150 crossed the line. Hope you have a better outlook on life than you seem to write.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
2:25 pm
OUCH….the Joker called me out after he mad a CLASSLESS post.. I am hurt.
You are as much of a TOOL as I am but you don’t even realize it.
Mike.Duke
July 25th, 2012
2:26 pm
ARdawg–by your handle I assume you live in Arkansas. Let me guess: Dumas?
Honestly
July 25th, 2012
2:29 pm
crackbaby
July 25th, 2012
8:34 am
One of the biggest problems with playoffs is the polls, specifically pre-season polls. Remember two years ago, after Alabama lost 8 or 9 starters on D, they were No. 1 in the pre-season polls. Even Tony Barnhart wrote ‘em up as the preseason fave.
Tide lost at least 3 games that year, but didn’t fall out of the top 10 in the polls until their 3rd loss.
Pollsters are the biggest flaw in the system.
Alabama lost a total of three games in 2010 and finished the season at #10 in the AP Poll. When’s the last time GT finished that well?
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
2:39 pm
@HighTech
I can understand why some would think this. Also, it is not likely that a C-USA team would ever beat a SEC “Superpower” in a playoff scenario. It’s never happened in a bowl game, has it?
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It did happen in a bowl game.In fact Georgia loss in the Liberty Bowl to Conference-USA champion Central Florida.But as I’m sure you also remember it was Georgia’s worst season in 10 years but they still managed to beat the ACC champion who shall remain nameless.Again the weaker conferences and their fans want 16 teams because its the only way they will get in.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
2:40 pm
@ Joker…..I would rather have UOAD as a friend that most of the dwags who post on these blogs
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
2:41 pm
@ Rick James……I ask this in all sincerity, since I haven’t heard an opinion. What are CMR’s thoughts on the playoffs?
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
2:44 pm
Thanks SUPER but maybe you need to step away from me when you talk to the JOKER. he might go on a shooting spree…..or he could do like Heath ledger and OD on drugs.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
2:46 pm
UOAD……ordinarily I would laugh at that, but considering Colorado, I think we had both best leave that alone
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
2:49 pm
@Supersize that order, mutt
@ Rick James……I ask this in all sincerity, since I haven’t heard an opinion.What are CMR’s thoughts on the playoffs
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I have no idea..I think his attitude on that is like everything else.Just control the things that you can and everthing else will take care of itself.The SEC had been pushing for the four team format so there’s not much for the coaches to say. Win or stay home.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
2:52 pm
@ Rick James……it would be funny as hell if he actually supported the idea of a 16-team playoff. I wonder what all the fools on here who have been posting ignorant trash all day would say then? And, BTW, despite OUR differences of opinion, I don’t consider you to be a fool or one who posts ignorant trash
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
3:04 pm
HOPE SOLO will you marry me? USA 4 v France 2
LOLO JONES if Hope say NO will you marry me. I have never had a virgin.
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
3:07 pm
@GTBob
Well UGA lost to a Mountain West team last year and a Conference USA team the year before that so they must not be too bad, right?
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Maybe the day will come when you can say that Georgia Tech beat Georgia last year and the year before instead of having to hide behind other schools to validate your low opinion of Georgia.
Joker
July 25th, 2012
3:08 pm
I won’t go as far as saying all tech fans are classless, but you sure set a great example for all of the sane tech fans here. BTW, HOW many games in a row have the dawgs won over the GT high school Jackets? I forget; it’s been too many. Tech-GA game getting boring, lately. You will get your butts handed to you again this year, too. I don’t care how UGA does as far as NC, as long as we whip y’all AGAIN. We can all hope that Tech will be able to play COLLEGE football this year but that may be a stretch. Keep talkin’ smack, Bees. It’s all you got!
clean up your ghetto area campus
July 25th, 2012
3:09 pm
Johnson better hope for 84 teams in playoff. Otherwise him and tech will never qualify.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:14 pm
I have to that I think 5150 was way over the line when he referenced theaters & bombs & 11:32 AM. It was, too say the least, a very insensitive comment to hint at such a sad, tragic event. Selah.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:19 pm
@ Joker…..obviously, you have never even watched a Tech – UGA game. UGA has won 3 in a row, but NONE of the games have been boring.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:20 pm
@ clean up……you had better nope that UGA never has a representative SEC schedule, or you’ll end up with a losing season. Talk about a cushy schedule. SHEESH
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
3:21 pm
@Supersize that order, mutt
@ Rick James……it would be funny as hell if he actually supported the idea of a 16-team playoff. I wonder what all the fools on here who have been posting ignorant trash all day would say then? And, BTW, despite OUR differences of opinion, I don’t consider you to be a fool or one who posts ignorant trash
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You cant be the real SMART he would have been calling me names by now..There’s way to disagree with him without being called an idiot.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:23 pm
I have tried twice. Filters won’t allow my posts for some stupid reason. Will try again.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:24 pm
Joker, you can talk trash all you like.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
Joker, your team has given you that privilege.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:27 pm
Joker, don’t get too c0cky though.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:27 pm
Joker, we’re coming.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:28 pm
Joker, when we get there, it ain’t gonna be pretty.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:28 pm
Joker, you won’t like it.
egeagledawg
July 25th, 2012
3:30 pm
PJ knows what he is talking about, but the truest playoff system wouldn’t sit well with the ESPN nabobs. The 16 team playoff would determine a true champion. Such a system would also cure what ails Tech in bowls. The one month hiatus from football really hurts execution for all teams, but especially Tech. The option is built on reps and execution. Even the great teams of GS would nave suffered with a month’s layoff. We at GSC/U used to take our bye week late in the season for rest and healong, but were ready and tuned for the playoff drive.
As a final note for the geniuses on here, and I mean from all schools’ fanbases, there are a few tidbits for you. Every one of our titles was earned on the field of play. All 6. And while the AA designation was there, we were and still are Division 1. The division 1 football champion for 1985, ‘86,’89,’90, ‘99, and 2000 for the NCAA was Georgia Southern. Y’all may not care becasue ESPN didn’t anoint us, but we are a true championship program. True playoffs allow us to state facts, whether folks at other places care or not.
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
3:30 pm
Damn filters will NOT let the word c0cky through. Who the HELL sets the stupid parameters for these filters. What a dumb azz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
3:33 pm
1 4 GT……….Yes I was OVER the LINE but it was not to HURT the people of Colorado….It was to Slam a person that would use the JOKER as a name at this time.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
Supersize…. I am sending you a friend request from a name you might not know but you will know the photo.
Joker
July 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
Filters must have been engineered by a Tech grad!
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:37 pm
@ Rick James……did you think that I posted under the name “SMART”? Where did you get that idea? I ONLY post under the name you see here.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:38 pm
UOAD, I got an email telling me that, but I haven’t gone there yet. I will later. But why a separate one from the one you already sent?
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:39 pm
@ Joker…..and where did you ATTEND school? Notice I said ATTEND, because I doubt you graduated anywhere. If you did, then you are an embarrassment to that school
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
3:41 pm
I played games on FB so I could help me play games and get gifts. i could play 2 players in poker and other games to increase my odds. LOL
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:42 pm
Damn, UOAD. You’re a mess. lol
Humble- the poster formerly known as Joker
July 25th, 2012
3:44 pm
Point made, 5150. I didn’t look at it that way. Unlike you, though, my insensitivity was accidental, as opposed to your completely uncalled-for comments related to that horrible evening in Colorado. Hatchet dropped here. Now tell me how in the h3ll Tech is going to field a better team to face UGA than Parkview HS could?
Humble- the poster formerly known as Joker
July 25th, 2012
3:47 pm
Supersize- I did graduate, bet you can guess from where. Anyway, I’d rather be a graduated embarrassment to a school than a worthless drop-out like you.
Really?
July 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
Coach Ima Johnson better push for a 50 team playoff. At least then he could claim that the trade school just barely missed the cut for the playoffs. Did anyone listen to johnson on 680 the fan monday? That guy is very bitter and hate filled when it comes to the Bulldogs. No wonder so many of the trade schools “fans” slobber all over that idiot. He is just as petty and hate filled as they are. If any of you ga texties had even an iota of class you would be ashamed of the guy. He is a classless hypocrite that lives by the mantra “do as I say not as I do”
I wonder why cpj refused to answer the questions about that drug crazed trade school player that attacked those cops in Athens? Is it true his lawyers advised him not to comment? Why did the trade school bail that steroid junkie out if they were not somehow responsible for his addiction? Too bad the ajc refuses to ask those questions to cpj. Maybe the steroid junkie will provide some answers once he gets out of rehab.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
@ Humble —- you certainly do not live up to your new name. You really like to hurl insults, don’t you? For what it’s worth, I have two degrees from Tech, and unless you’re a doctor, which I doubt, even one of them is worth more than what you got in Athens.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
3:56 pm
Talk about embarrassments…….there’s that ignorant POS Really? again. If I were you, bubba, I’d worry more about the mess you have in Athens over a non-playing walk-on on the Tech football team who’s arrest in Athens has been fully covered and documented and includes none of the FALSE ALLEGATIONS you have been spreading on these blogs for the past 2 months. You DO realize, don’t you, that if you weren’t hiding behind a blog name, that you could be sued for libel or slander, whichever is appropriate for a blog. You have ABSOLUTELY NO FACTS WHATSOEVER to base your allegations on. GET A LIFE !!!!
Cats hav fleas 2
July 25th, 2012
3:57 pm
What does it matter? He can’t win a Bowl game. What makes him think his luck would be any different in a playoff?
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
Maybe the day will come when you can say that Georgia Tech beat Georgia last year and the year before instead of having to hide behind other schools to validate your low opinion of Georgia.
I am not hiding behind anybody. A UGA fan decided to make a comment bashing the Mountain West and Conference USA and I respectfully pointed out that UGA has lost to both of those conferences recently. I really couldn’t care less about their record against GT because it really isn’t all that relevant to what I said.
I Love Tech
July 25th, 2012
4:01 pm
5150 & Supersize
Awwwww you guys are so cute together. Is it possible wedding bells are in y’alls future? Don’t let society and close minded haters stop the path of true love. If you decide to adopt please name the first boy Paul.
Really?
July 25th, 2012
4:15 pm
Just when you think 5150 could not sink any lower he resorts to making fun of the victims in colorado. Why does the ajc allow this lowlife piece of trash to keep posting? I admit I enjoy baiting the trade school whinebags but I have never and will never make jokes about a tragic incident or even worse make fun of those who died in such a horrible tragedy.
It’s obvious that 5150 and other texties are allowed to make evil comments here that would get others banned but for God’s sake where do you draw the line?!!!!! Come on Ken can you at least ask that sociopath to curb his hate filled anger a tiny bit?
I am so sickened by 5150 and his lapdogs that make excuses for him that I am leaving this blog.
ARdawg
July 25th, 2012
4:20 pm
“Well UGA lost to a Mountain West team last year and a Conference USA team the year before that so they must not be too bad, right?”
Yes GTBob, thanks for proving my point. GT seems to struggle where the others do not?
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
@ Really?…….and why do you think the AJC continues to let LIARS like you post on here? You say you never make jokes about tragic incidents, and yet you continue to slander the name of a kid you have never even met or know anything about. Why don’t you just stay on the trashy UGA blogs where trash like you belong to begin with? I am going to remember your last statement in the above post and see how long it takes you to go back on that promise. Like I said before, GET A LIFE
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
4:23 pm
@ ARdwag……how did bringing up the fact that UGA lost to a couple of nobodies in the past couple of years prove any point you tried to make? Are you saying that UGA lost even without a struggle?
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
4:24 pm
@GTBob
I am not hiding behind anybody. A UGA fan decided to make a comment bashing the Mountain West and Conference USA and I respectfully pointed out that UGA has lost to both of those conferences recently. I really couldn’t care less about their record against GT because it really isn’t all that relevant to what I said.
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Actually he was bashing the ACC as well but I guess Georgia’s losses to Boise and UFC were the only ones you could come up with to validate your opinion.Why didnt you bring up Tech’s record against Georgia? Oh I know,it doesnt matter to you.Only other teams’s records against Georgia matter and I can understand that.
Rick James
July 25th, 2012
4:33 pm
@ARdawg
Yes GTBob, thanks for proving my point. GT seems to struggle where the others do not?
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The year that Georgia lost to a Conference-USA team in the Liberty Bowl Tech won the ACC yet still got beaten by Georgia’s worst team in 10 years.Georgia did lose to a top 10 Boise St. team from the Moutain West but they still beat Tech so why do their fans keep bringing these games up?
ARdawg
July 25th, 2012
4:42 pm
mutt
I wasn’t bashing those conferences. If you couldn’t get the inference it must have went over your head. Those teams from those conferences can actually beat UGA…Tech cannot
I was just posting to rile you beeheads a bit. I knew GTBob has no sense of humor. I thought you did but, now I’ll know going forward
Humble
July 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
@ Humble —- you certainly do not live up to your new name. You really like to hurl insults, don’t you? For what it’s worth, I have two degrees from Tech, and unless you’re a doctor, which I doubt, even one of them is worth more than what you got in Athens.
Supersize, you can say your obligatory oops, now. I AM a doctor, moron. What else you got? But being a doctor isn’t going to mean much once Obamacare rips us all a new one. Sounds to me you should get your money back for those 2 degrees from Tech. Or maybe you should demand a third, you know, buy 2, get one free?
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
4:54 pm
@ Humble…….well, we DO agree on one thing….Obamacare will indeed rip us all. So let’s just leave it there and agree to disagree on everything else. After all, THAT is way more important than a football rivalry. We are BOTH in deep sh!t
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
4:54 pm
The year that Georgia lost to a Conference-USA team in the Liberty Bowl Tech won the ACC yet still got beaten by Georgia’s worst team in 10 years.
Tech was 6-7 that year which was their worst team in 14 years. Try to keep your years straight.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
4:58 pm
Really?……………PLEASE post where I was making fun to the Colorado situation.
Anybody coming on the BLOGS using THE JOKER is the person making light of the Colorado Attack.
The Joker roll took heath Ledger to a Dark place he didn’t come back from. The Movie Shooter called himself the JOKER before he opened fire. BUT you think a person using THE JOKER as a blog handle is OK?
Humble
July 25th, 2012
4:59 pm
Supersize- now if I were a proctologist, that would be a great one. Hope we can fire Obama, get a new Senate, and kill the thing, right there. Looking forward to the next Tech-Ga football game. Seems we can’t beat Tech at any other sport, so I’ll take FB. Bye for now. You know, Doctor’s hours.
GTBob
July 25th, 2012
5:04 pm
Supersize, you can say your obligatory oops, now. I AM a doctor, moron.
We can add Humble to the list of amazingly accomplished UGA blog posters. The average salary for that school is 42k but every AJC UGA fan is making well into the 6-8 figures a year range. Pretty amazing that we attract such prestige. Or you are all full of crap.
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
5:09 pm
LOL @ Humble……Interesting that given enough time and enough opportunities, even the worst of “enemies” can find some common ground and move on from there. Enjoy the wins in football while you can. I think you know as well as I do that all good things eventually come to an end. Consider the 1957 game as an example…..the end of an 8 year long winning streak for Tech over UGA. Disparage the ACC all you want (I’m no big ACC fan either), but with the exception of 2002, every one of the recent Tech – UGA games have been at least competitive, and several of them could have gone either way at the end. I know, I know, that sounds like rationalization and some kind of “moral victory” claim, but you UGA fans do the same about games which you lose; it’s a way of life. Anyway, GO JACKETS !!!!
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
@ GTBob…..I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one, since we agree politically. LOL
Humble
July 25th, 2012
5:14 pm
Crap. I wanna go home, boys. 5150, You are so full of crap. What have you been smoking this afternoon? Can I get some of it? Check out your pathetic posts from 11:32 and 2:44 if you can;t remember your slight at the Colorado incident. Even Supersize and his 2 GT degrees found it over the top.
Humble
July 25th, 2012
5:15 pm
Supersize, I think I’m gonna cry, brother. Can I just get a hug?
Supersize that order, mutt
July 25th, 2012
5:18 pm
@ Humble — GIVE ME A BREAK !!! LOL
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
5:22 pm
HUMBLE…………..was my ANGER focused at Colorado Victims? NO it was focused at the JOKER….. READ and tell me that a person POSTING as the JOKER is OK.
Humble
July 25th, 2012
5:32 pm
Trying to worm your way out of it now, huh? Nice try. Go back and look at my first post and see if it had anything to do with Colorado. It was specifically football. My handle was an oversight on my part, not intentional. You are the only moron on the blog that made the sadistic connection, though. What does that tell you about your mindset as opposed to everyone else’s? Did anyone else make that connection? Now you’re trying to pawn your behavior off solely on my handle. Give me a break. I should be the one watching my back for you, but I don’t think you are really that evil. I think you are just dumb.
BLT
July 25th, 2012
5:34 pm
Really?
July 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
Did you read your own post? Talk about “hate filled”. WOW!
By the way, have you been “wineing and dineing” anyone lately? Genius.
BLT
July 25th, 2012
5:36 pm
Humble the Numble is a doctor? You need to let everyone know where you practice so we can avoid you at all cost! GTBob was right about UGA doctors. Scary to think about…really.
5150 UOAD
July 25th, 2012
5:45 pm
WORM my way out of NOTHING…..You are trying to make something out of nothing.
You are a MUTT and it is OK for MUTTS to talk crap but you don’t see it.
Hit me up and we can talk in person. I will even buy you a beer. I doubt you are SMART enought ot talk face to face but don’t say I didn’t offer.
p-dob
July 25th, 2012
6:46 pm
Hey Jimbo, I could care less if the best team won the National Championship, unless that team happens to be my team. The best team does not always win, that’s why you play the game. Duh….. This 4 team playoff sucks. Expand to 8 teams!
1 4 GT
July 25th, 2012
7:19 pm
5150–been gone a while. I saw your reply to my post. Sorry to step on your toes. I hadn’t looked at that way, as Humble admitted he had not either.. All is cool. OK!!
www
July 26th, 2012
11:14 am
humble/joker/supersize –
guys, it’s simple – YOU’RE BOTH MORONS if you think anyone the republicans put forward will do a better job than our current president.
is this a football blog or a place for senile old retards to complain about politics and kids on their lawn?
get a life, fools.