5 things to watch at ACC Media Days

ACC commissioner John Swofford has this going for him – he doesn’t have to update his notes about the necessity for the conference to start winning big non-conference games.

Swofford will open the league’s Media Days event Sunday in Greensboro, N.C., and the ACC’s performance against the game’s heavyweights will once again undoubtedly be a topic of conversation for him and coaches. After his comments on the matter a year ago in his “state of the conference” address, the ACC responded with a 9-16 record against other BCS conferences, including 2-5 against the SEC and 2-6 in bowl games. Perhaps Swofford should move it up a little higher in his speech.

Other topics that will undoubtedly get time Sunday and Monday:

Expansion

Is Notre Dame in the picture? What’s the timeline? What can the ACC do to increase revenue?

The ACC moved first in the most recent series of realignments, plucking Pitt and Syracuse from the Big East last September. The schools will begin ACC play in 2013. It leaves the conference at 14 and raises the question about whether a 16-team league is too far off.

Florida State

“Is Florida State back?” is a popular question, and with the Seminoles returning a stacked defense, it’ll get tossed around again. (Of course, since the question gets asked every year, the correct answer to this question has been “no.”) You might call the Seminoles the champions of Media Days. Florida State has been picked by media to win the Atlantic Division, if not the league title, six of the seven years since the ACC split into two divisions for the 2005 season. The Seminoles have reached two title games, as many as Boston College.

Penn State

Reaction to the findings from the Freeh Report as well as opinions on what discipline the school should face will get mention. Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer has said he considered Joe Paterno a great friend and, in fact, received the first (and only) Joe Paterno Award in 2010. Miami coach Al Golden played for Paterno and was speculated as a possible replacement for Paterno last winter.

Miami’s NCAA trouble

Golden may well beg for questions about Penn State. A Yahoo report on Friday said that Golden, hired in part to clean up the Hurricanes’ NCAA messes, intentionally violated NCAA rules by using an equipment manager to recruit. Sean Allen, who has ties to rogue booster Nevin Shapiro and left Miami in 2011, even allegedly tried to persuade a player to withdraw from Florida State the day before he was to enroll, apparently in concert with Miami assistant Micheal Barrow. Golden denied the Yahoo report.

Quarterbacks

Ten of the league’s 12 expected starting quarterbacks are returners, including five of the top six passing yardage leaders. The quarterbacks include both All-ACC selections, Clemson’s Tajh Boyd and Virginia Tech’s Logan Thomas, as well as Florida State’s EJ Manuel, North Carolina’s Bryn Renner and Georgia Tech’s Tevin Washington.

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Tech dropout

July 22nd, 2012
11:48 am

Can’t wait!

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
12:06 pm

the U is in bad shape

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
12:09 pm

I think we make a hard push for Notre Dame and Penn St. Penn St needs a new home and fresh start after the Penalties come down.

Delbert D.

July 22nd, 2012
12:12 pm

I’m really curious to see the rankings projection from the meetings. The guy that did the projected game-by-game forecast on the season for chuckoliver.net has Tech going 6-6, with the defense giving up a lot of points in most of the losses. I might be a minority of one, but I see the defense being improved over last season.

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
12:17 pm

Delbert D. I have to agree. TJ looked thin and fast at the spring game. I think our DB’s and LB’s should be pretty good. The D-line is where it all has to start. how can the new guys help and how fast can they get on the field.

Stumpknocker

July 22nd, 2012
12:42 pm

Our D line has got to get better……PJ may have to consider allowing some Frosh to have serious playing time. Miami in trouble again ? …………Imagine that. Pres D Shalala will just throw her polital weight around …..pull a few strings and the NCAA will disappear…….just like the last time. On another note, since when has the NCAA become the judiciary power over criminal cases in colleges? The Penn St crap has nothing to do with sports…………and the NCAA is run by a bunch of crooks (Emmert included).

Paul in NH

July 22nd, 2012
12:46 pm

Who cares about preseason rankings?
In 2011 GT was picked behind UM and NC in the Coastal and finished ahead of both of them. FSU was picked to win the Atlantic with Wake in last place. Wake had the same ACC record as FSU and beat them head to head. So much for preseason rankings.

BigTimeTECHFan

July 22nd, 2012
12:52 pm

Who’s going to represent GT players this year, Uzzi and Smith?

kmarshall 4

July 22nd, 2012
1:10 pm

Enter your comments here

1 4 GT

July 22nd, 2012
1:10 pm

Somebody please tell me why my post was not allowed. Please let it thru your stupid filters. C’mon Ken, let it thru. The AJC let stand posts that knock the NCAA doing anything to Penn State. I think you need to let my comments defending the NCAA punishing Penn State be posted.

kmarshall 4

July 22nd, 2012
1:12 pm

10 OUT OF 11 ABOUT TO BE 11 OUT OF 12!!!!!!!!!

www

July 22nd, 2012
1:51 pm

i look for notre dame + penn state to join the acc in a few years, after the sandusky/paterno furor has calmed down.

Why

July 22nd, 2012
2:02 pm

Why would you guys want Penn State in the ACC? Maybe a push for Kentucky? I don’t want any negative publicity in the ACC.

WnE

July 22nd, 2012
2:06 pm

re:
5150 UOAD
July 22nd, 2012
12:09 pm

I think we make a hard push for Notre Dame and Penn St. Penn St needs a new home and fresh start after the Penalties come down.
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The ACC is already weak in FB , why bring in a “damaged” PSU to a conf. that needs a boost in FB?

Also PSU has no natural recruiting ties to this part of the country, to bring in a damaged program that brings nothing to the table in other sports doesn’t do the ACC any favors.

That’s why the ACC is so weak now, we’re always shopping for discounts and “scratch & dent merchandise”, Pitt & Syracuse ain’t what they used to be, and now you want to add a PSU Program that won’t be what they used to be either.

GT needs to bolt the ACC for a better conference FB-wise, and then worry about everything else after the FB situation has improved.

The ACC is slowly killing GT FB.

K

July 22nd, 2012
2:07 pm

Can anyone explain why Wes Durham was at the SEC media days?????

WnE

July 22nd, 2012
2:11 pm

re:
K
July 22nd, 2012
2:07 pm

Can anyone explain why Wes Durham was at the SEC media days?????
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He and Barnhart will do some sort of CFB themed radio show this fall and since the SEC is the major conference in CFB you have to cover them.

You can’t be in the sports talk radio biz and NOT cover SEC FB.

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
2:18 pm

Why Penn St to the ACC because we already got Pitt and that would lock-up the state for the ACC. Penn St will come back and be fine in a few years. You know their fans will not stop following the team no matter what. Academically Penn St and Notre Dame make perfect sense for the ACC to go to 16 teams.

K

July 22nd, 2012
2:48 pm

Tech needs to get out of the ACC….but where to go??
SEC doesn’t want them, already have the Atlanta market with GA, Auburn, Alabama.
Nothing else any better for them. Guess the ACC just needs to get better.

Tokyo jacket

July 22nd, 2012
2:54 pm

WnE, expansion isn’t necessarily about adding winners. Look at what the SEC added: Missouri and Texas A&M. I think they have one Big8/12/10 championship between them in 20 years. It’s about presence. Penn St is one of the biggest universities with one of the largest living alumni bases in the country. Their fans are fanatics. ND has the biggest national fan base in the country – bar none. It seems as though we catholics can’t seem to get enough ND losses to USC, Mich, or Navy. Regardless of W/L, championships or bad publicity, ND and PSU fit academically and to some extent geographically, but most importantly, financially. They add 200,000 fans on game day and another 2 million watching on TV.

Also, after having read that the Big10 is considering kicking PSU out, there might be a great recovery in the ACC story waiting to happen, especially after the penalties roll over.

buzzarmy

July 22nd, 2012
2:55 pm

WnE, True adding Pitt and Syrq. will not do much for football it will just make the ACC the top BB conf, and as long as the powers to be in the Carolinas have anything to do with it we will always be a BB conf first. and yes WHY< adding Ky to our conf would be great for our BB but I dont see the SEC letting them get away.

Not Disappointed!

July 22nd, 2012
2:58 pm

So ready for Jacket football!

Tokyo jacket

July 22nd, 2012
2:59 pm

One more thing. The total enrollment at PSU is 46,000 at the main campus. That’s like adding GT, Wake, Duke, and BC all together. It’s not about winning, at least not yet. It’s about money, which in theory leads to winning (well, that and oversigning).

Tokyo jacket

July 22nd, 2012
3:06 pm

Kentucky doesn’t add money to the conference. It adds no reasonable media market to the conference. IF the ACC goes to 16 teams, the next two have to be money teams. Note that adding Pitt added a major media market, fertile recruiting ground, and 30,000 enrollment. Adding SU, while not the size school or recruiting ground in football that Pitt was, gets us in the NY TV market. The ACC is now in the Boston, DC, NY, and ATL TV markets, or 4 of the top 6. Adding ND would get us the Chicago market, and every major media market not named LA. That’s why I think UConn might still be an ACC target if they bring ND (or even PSU) with them. Connecticut is just a suburb of New York anyway. Adding ND and PSU would initiate another new round of TV negotiations. One that would likely be worth more than ND’s contract with NBC and one that would be in line with what the SEC earns before bowl games.

That’s a bright future if it ever came to reality :)

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
3:08 pm

The Big 10 might kick Penn St out in hopes to add Notre Dame but I could see a Notre Dame/Penn St deal really make both teams happy.

WnE

July 22nd, 2012
3:16 pm

re:
Tokyo jacket
July 22nd, 2012
2:54 pm

WnE, expansion isn’t necessarily about adding winners. Look at what the SEC added: Missouri and Texas A&M. I think they have one Big8/12/10 championship between them in 20 years. It’s about presence. Penn St is one of the biggest universities with one of the largest living alumni bases in the country. Their fans are fanatics. ND has the biggest national fan base in the country – bar none. It seems as though we catholics can’t seem to get enough ND losses to USC, Mich, or Navy. Regardless of W/L, championships or bad publicity, ND and PSU fit academically and to some extent geographically, but most importantly, financially. They add 200,000 fans on game day and another 2 million watching on TV.

Also, after having read that the Big10 is considering kicking PSU out, there might be a great recovery in the ACC story waiting to happen, especially after the penalties roll over.
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We ain’t the SEC!

Period.

End of discussion.

The SEC has Bama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, Muttville, Tenn, even if some of those programs are under-performing right now they allow SEC to chase market share & TV ratings.

The ACC doesn’t have that luxury, they have to get better FB Programs in the conference.

The slate of ACC games is blah in comparison to other conferences.

The TV money is based on a FB first model, so the ACC improving in B-ball isn’t helping the members of the conference very much.

Name one ACC FB Program that is “can’t miss TV” for a rabid CFB fan, meanwhile the SEC has about 5 or ‘em.

We don’t have the leverage of the SEC so we shouldn’t try to expand like the SEC.

BLT

July 22nd, 2012
3:50 pm

Sadly, you are right WnE. It’s all about the money.

George Stein

July 22nd, 2012
4:08 pm

WnE needs a lesson in investing (to say nothing of general social norms).

Let’s pretend that Penn St is available. Buying them as a depressed asset is smart, as they would be worth more than the purchase price. I wouldn’t expect a fool like him to understand that, though.

George Stein

July 22nd, 2012
4:15 pm

The SEC has five cant miss teams? I’m so confused now.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 22nd, 2012
4:29 pm

I would say that the SEC actually only has ONE can’t miss team, with a few others who garner interest for a few years at a time and then drop out of view. That ONE team would be Bama, because they have been at or near the top for nearly 100 years. Others who pop up from time to time are Florida (the past 30 years), Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, and UGA. In spite of their lofty opinions of themselves, the dwags are for the most part historically irrelevant on the national scene.

GTpack

July 22nd, 2012
4:38 pm

I hope TW has been practicing throwing the ball accurately, can’t continue to have overthrown passes. TW, this is your year, you better make the best of it. No more chances.

Paul in NH

July 22nd, 2012
5:01 pm

The “can’t miss” football games are played on Sundays and Mondays. The SEC had the highest average CFB viewers with 4.4MM per telecast – the NFL averaged over 4x that.

WnE

July 22nd, 2012
5:06 pm

re:
George Stein
July 22nd, 2012
4:08 pm

WnE needs a lesson in investing (to say nothing of general social norms).

Let’s pretend that Penn St is available. Buying them as a depressed asset is smart, as they would be worth more than the purchase price. I wouldn’t expect a fool like him to understand that, though.
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This CFB!

Your theory about buying an undervalued stock or depressed asset doesn’t apply to CFB!

GT fans like you want to impress the world so badly with your “smarts” that you comes across as dumb.

In a hyper competitive BCS Level where everyone has 85 schollies and access to TV, it might be 15 years before Penn st. can come back to the level they were at.

FSU & Miami are going on 10 years trying to get “back” to where they were and they still can’t do it vs. weak ACC schedules.

There’s no guarantee your depressed asset-Penn St Theory will make any comeback after the NCAA PLUS public perception gets through hammering their Program.

Pitt hasn’t had any serious sanctions, they recruit Penn HS talent, why haven’t they been a factor in recent yrs.?

If Pitt can’t be strong Recruiting Penn HS talent with no sanctions, what makes you think Penn St. will be so strong after the NCAA hits them with sanctions?

There’s a big difference between REALITY and whatever theory you wanna pull out of your hiney to try and apply to an industry (CFB) that is like no other traditional industry.

Another typical, highly theoretical, George Stein comment that won’t hold up to closer analysis.

WnE

July 22nd, 2012
5:08 pm

should be:

This IS CFB!

WnE

July 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm

re:
Paul in NH
July 22nd, 2012
5:01 pm

The “can’t miss” football games are played on Sundays and Mondays. The SEC had the highest average CFB viewers with 4.4MM per telecast – the NFL averaged over 4x that.
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If I’m in a Sports Bar about 4 pm on a Sat. afternoon and LSU, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Arky, or UGA are playing on TV, then I’m asking the bartender to turn the volume up on that game instead of watching FSU vs. Wake Forest or Va. Tech vs. NC State.

Other than GT, the ACC is virtually unwatchable for me, and I know many other CFB fans that feel the same way.

The ACC “wastes” its marquee matchups for Thursday nights because the conference is SCARED they can’t compete with other conferences for the “Prime CFB TV slots” (Sat. 3:30 pm to Sat 8pm).

Except for this yr. the ACC usually has GT vs. Va. Tech on Thurs. night instead of Sat. aft. at 3:30 pm or Sat evening at 7:45 pm.

Would the SEC ever have UGA vs. Florida on a Thursday night?

Would the SEC ever have LSU vs. Bama on a Thursday night?

Would the SEC ever have Bama vs. Tenn ( 3rd Saturday in Oct.) on a Thurs. night?

The ACC commish’s Office is branding ACC FB as small potatoes, 2nd class CFB by putting those games on Thurs nights.

The ACC should use those Thurs. night games for teams that finished in the bottom half of the conference the year before and that way the Conf. will get a better inventory of games to appear on Saturdays, make Dook & Wake and the weak programs play on Thurs. to get them some exposure. The upper half of the Conference should NEVER play on a Thurs. night.

The ACC administration is working against the best interests of the conference members WRT CFB.

HighTech

July 22nd, 2012
5:36 pm

If I’m in a Sports Bar about 4 pm on a Sat. afternoon and LSU, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Arky, or UGA are playing on TV, then I’m asking the bartender to turn the volume up on that game instead of watching FSU vs. Wake Forest or Va. Tech vs. NC State.
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Especially UGA because you are a UGA fan. Do the other patrons of this Sports Bar use words like kung fu panda, boot licking toady, and putz?

Paul in NH

July 22nd, 2012
5:39 pm

“Other than GT, the ACC is virtually unwatchable for me, and I know many other CFB fans that feel the same way.”

Wow – a sample somewhere between 1 (WnE) and many (WnE and people he knows in sports bars).
Meanwhile in real numbers, the ACC was the 3rd highest watched conference after the SEC and the B1G

HighTech

July 22nd, 2012
5:43 pm

“Wow – a sample somewhere between 1 (WnE) and 1 (WnE and people he knows in sports bars).”

fixed

Paul in NH

July 22nd, 2012
5:44 pm

“The upper half of the Conference should NEVER play on a Thurs. night.”

Somebody needs to tell Mike Slive that. LSU played on a Thursday night in 2011 and Alabama, Auburn and South Carolina all played on a Thursday night in 2010.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 22nd, 2012
5:45 pm

Personally, I hate Thursday night games, but they pay well, and guarantee a national audience, regardless of the size of that audience. And I guarantee you that if ESPN asked UGA and UF to play on a Thursday night, they would take that money and run with it. Well, maybe not UGA, since they seem to think it’s beneath them to play on Thursday nights. But other schools in the SEC would do it if the payoff is big enough

Supersize that order, mutt

July 22nd, 2012
5:45 pm

@ Paul…..I thought that was the case, but I couldn’t remember for sure. UGA, however, refuses to play on Thursdays.

Spike

July 22nd, 2012
5:48 pm

Paul in NH

July 22nd, 2012
5:52 pm

Now that I am not within drving distance to Atlanta, I like Thursday night games.
I don’t understand the snobbery about not playing on Thursday nights. A Thursday night ESPN game is the only one on TV. On Saturdays (especially Saturday nights) there are several games on at any time on the “ABC/ESPN family of networks”.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 22nd, 2012
5:56 pm

Even though I AM within driving distance of Atlanta, I just don’t like that late night drive back home after those Thursday night games. But the atmosphere at those games is usually fantastic.

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
6:00 pm

I Love the Thur night games. ATL looks good, it is cool not cold usually and for a Night Game most fans are not so drunk.

carolinajacket

July 22nd, 2012
6:02 pm

Hey Super, this is the 60th annivesary of Marilyn Monroe’s love affair with Ga. Tech. How time flies.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 22nd, 2012
6:03 pm

LOL @ carolina

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
6:09 pm

No Update on the T Washington or J Attaochu interviews at the ACC Meetings?

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
6:15 pm

Coming back to football, Swofford noted that the ACC has no shortage of high-profile, nonconference games. The upcoming 2012 season features ACC teams playing 48 percent of nonconference games against BCS-AQ teams, more than any other conference.

5150 UOAD

July 22nd, 2012
6:17 pm

If Marilyn Monroe was born the same as Queen Elizabeth. Just think what Marilyn would look like if she were still alive.

www

July 22nd, 2012
6:30 pm

you guys should really know better than to respond to the dwag troll “wne”.

as for adding penn state and notre dame, the next few years will tell the tale but if there was ever a case of “buy low, sell hi, this is it.

i know penn state fans aren’t happy with the big 10(shouldn’t that be 12?) right now.

whenever notre dame’s contract with nbc ends, look for the acc to make a move.

and don’t be surprised if notre dame gets 1.5 times what everyone else in the conference gets in terms of football money, at least initially. they would be worth it.