Jets gush about Stephen Hill
Greetings-
Some post-draft tidbits for you about Stephen Hill. The Jets PR people were good enough to send me a transcript from a news conference with GM Mike Tannenbaum, college scouting VP Joey Clinkscales and senior personnel executive Terry Bradway. Some interesting stuff on Mr. Hill.
1. Tannenbaum said the team studied Demaryius Thomas’ adjustment to the NFL to get an idea of how Hill might transition from the Tech offense to the NFL, and spent a lot of time getting to know Hill. In addition to the pro day at Tech, the Jets worked him out at their facility and also in Atlanta, which lasted about an hour and a half.
Tannenbaum: “We really feel he can run all the routes we’ll ask in our offense. Again, he was a very good blocker in a run-oriented offense. He has very good football acumen and we feel the transition can happen really quickly.”
2. Clinkscales’ assessment of Hill: “He is a tall kid who can run. He is flexible, can sink his hips, he can drop his weight and get in and out of routes. More (important) than the offense is his skill set, and I think his skill set transfers to this level pretty well.”
3. Clinkscales, on if Hill reminds the Jets of anyone:
“He’s unique. He’s a 6’4 kid that weighs 215 and runs a 4.32. He’s a unique athlete, he really is. Calvin Johnson, maybe? And I’m not going to put that label on him but from a height, weight, speed moniker. He’s just a unique athlete.”
4. Tannenbaum shared an interesting detail from his interview with Hill regarding his recruitment to Tech. As presumably a lot of teams did, the Jets asked Hill why a wide receiver would play for a run-oriented offense.
Tannenbaum: “He said they were initially the only team that had offered him and he had committed to them and later on in the process a few other more traditional passing teams had offered him a scholarship, but he didn’t want to back out on his commitment,” Tannenbaum said. “I thought that was very admirable. Again, that’s not why we took him or why we were interested in him, but that was an interesting anecdote because we were asking him why would you go there knowing you’re a receiver and that they’re going to run the ball.”
If you’ll remember, Hill committed to Tech in the fall of 2008 (he had actually committed to Central Florida prior to that) before Georgia (Tennessee did, as well) made a late push, which caused Hill to waver before sticking with Tech.
5. Bradway on the transition from the Tech offense:
“I think there’s a transition for all of them, to be honest with you. With the spread offenses, they don’t normally run the NFL route tree. But it was important for us to put him through that to see that he could do it. Like I said, at the combine, at his pro day, and at his work out for us, he showed that he can do that. This guy is really coachable. He’s willing to work. With (wide receivers coach) Sanjay (Lal) and our offensive coaches, I think the upside is going to happen pretty quickly for this kid.”
6. Clinkscales on why Hill didn’t have more catches in bigger games:
“Well, I would go back to what was stated a few minutes ago. On the season they completed 64 passes. So probably against some of the better teams they weren’t completing a lot of passes. I don’t think it had anything to do with his production in those games. They had a tough time throwing the ball.”
6. Hill said that he was hoping to end up with the Jets, given the connection he’d made with coaches during the pre-draft meetings.
“They had a little bit of background on me, and I had a great background on them. I feel like I’m in the right spot.”
On playing in a pro-style offense with Mark Sanchez: “I feel great, especially now that I’m in an offense where I can catch the football a little bit more. Catching the ball from Mark Sanchez is great. I’m going to make sure I get with him as soon as possible and we’re going to try to get this thing rolling.”
On what he’ll bring to the Jets:
“A lot of big plays down the field and getting big touchdowns at the right time, of course. Other than that, I feel like I could bring a lot, especially blocking. I can definitely put somebody on their butt.”
Thanks for reading.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:59 am
Good stuff Ken…
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:01 pm
“”I think there’s a transition for all of them, to be honest with you.”
Don’t tell anyone completely misguided about the TO offense that…that ruins the entire narrative.
juvenal
April 30th, 2012
12:01 pm
who you like in the Man derby, FLJ?
HighTech
April 30th, 2012
12:11 pm
Is it called a pro-style offense in the NFL or just a pro offense?
Rduck
April 30th, 2012
12:11 pm
excellent article Ken as always. Really alot of good info from the people that scouted him and decided to draft him. I was as sceptical as anyone when Hill came out early, but he worked hard and made his dream come true. Congrats Stephen and I wish you much success. Glad you were a Jacket…
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:15 pm
juve…
I’m cheering for another Balotelli meltdown…
Honestly I think it’ll be one of those up-and-down games…and if it comes down to the best keeper I’ll have to go with City. Of course, United can clich the Table with a win so they’ll be amped.
I play soccer with a British ex-pat from Manchester. He’s a United fan, and claims all City fans are the bottom of life’s barrel. Haha totally objective…
mountain_jim
April 30th, 2012
12:21 pm
Coach Johnson finally added a shotgun package this spring, which can only help the future GT passing game, and recruitment efforts of WRs.
Ken Sugiura
April 30th, 2012
12:23 pm
HighTech – I think it’s just called an offense.
Rduck – for better or worse, there’s a heavy emphasis on “measurables,” and Hill has them in abundance, and he has a lot of the intangibles, as well, just not the experience or typical production. it’ll be interesting to see how things develop.
HighTech
April 30th, 2012
12:24 pm
Read Ken’s Items 1 and 2 and then read this…
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/04/15/nfl-draft-stephen-hill-prepared-for-pros/
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:32 pm
HT…
“Pro-style” offense is a marketing gimmick college teams use to give recruits the somewhat misguided impression that their offense will prepare them for the type of base offense NFL teams run. They usually refer to the I-formation set with a TE as “pro-style” set…therefore I call it the I-formation offense (CPJ’s offense really isn’t the TO offense – that’s just one play – it’s more of a “spread formation”)
It’s highly disingenous to intimate that a maximum of 20 hours/week of coaching instruction in college gets players prepared for 700-page playbooks, learning dozens of offensive sets, recognizing NFL-caliber defensive formations and disguised coverages, making post-snap reads and route adjustments off them, learning offensive terminology and hand signs for plays and audibles, and getting acclimated to the faster speed of the NFL game. It’s not even close.
The only thing that college that runs an I-formation offense can promise is more reps in a watered-down college version of what they run in the NFL. And even then…NFL coaching is superior to college coaching…so the time and instruction that one is able to process and use at the NFL level is infinitely more valuable.
GT Lee
April 30th, 2012
12:33 pm
But according to WeeeeniE the football expert, CPJ’s offense kept him from being drafted…..only help from Terrance Mathis saved the day for Mr Hill……whew
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:35 pm
“and recruitment efforts of WRs”
Where does this fallacy come from that CPJ can’t recruit WRs? He’s only put 3 of them in the NFL…including the first one he recruited himself.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
12:38 pm
“More (important) than the offense is his skill set, and I think his skill set transfers to this level pretty well.”
This is essentially what I’ve said the entire time – that NFL teams draft for tools, not collegiate statistics (unless they want to get fired), because the NFL and college really are different games.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:40 pm
“HighTech – I think it’s just called an offense.”
Haha Ken…kind of like how, in Italy, going out for Italian food is just “going out for food”.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
12:40 pm
““Pro-style” offense is a marketing gimmick college teams use to give recruits the somewhat misguided impression that their offense will prepare them for the type of base offense NFL teams run.”
This could not have been better said.
This "NFL route tree" comment, and I have heard it more than once...
April 30th, 2012
12:41 pm
…is a bunch of whooey – everybody from pee-wee league thru college runs the same routes, only faster and longer, though some double move routes do not get run until HS – the main difference is that in the pros you have a QB who can get the ball to a spot with zip on it and is accurate 95% of the time…
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
12:43 pm
” the main difference is that in the pros you have a QB who can get the ball to a spot with zip on it and is accurate 95% of the time…”
Unless that QB is Blaine Gabbert…
Frankly
April 30th, 2012
12:43 pm
Good luck to SH as he transitions to the Jets offense, I for one am excited to see how much he develops. Had he attended anywhere else in D-1 we would have a much better idea on that.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
12:48 pm
” Had he attended anywhere else in D-1 we would have a much better idea on that.”
No, we wouldn’t.
Mark (another one)
April 30th, 2012
12:50 pm
I don’t see the issue with CPJ’s offense. It’s different and causes opponents issues. I remember when Nebraska used to pass less than ten times a game. They still produced wide receivers, and frankly, they were willing to do more than simple catch passes. Hill isn’t afraid to hit somebody, which will make things interesting at the next level.
I’m a UGA season ticket holder and I admit my bias, but I follow all the players from the state when they move to the NFL. I expect Hill to take some time to adjust (I believe he did when he got to Tech) and then become productive. To compare anyone to Calvin Johnson is unfair but Hill has great physical tools and has always appeared willing to work hard. That’s a great combination.
CoolBreze
April 30th, 2012
12:51 pm
We should all save this article. It contradicts sust about all of the things that those idiot Georgie trolls come on here and say. (and I’m not talking about DawgInLex and some of the guys who make relevant observations.)
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:52 pm
GS…the ignorance is thick today isn’t it?
Ken Sugiura
April 30th, 2012
12:52 pm
route tree – the same routes are run, but i think different offenses will utilize more (or less) of them. think of the number of times you saw hill run a crossing route.
Ken Sugiura
April 30th, 2012
12:53 pm
FL Jacket – precisely.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:57 pm
“I remember when Nebraska used to pass less than ten times a game. They still produced wide receivers, and frankly, they were willing to do more than simple catch passes. Hill isn’t afraid to hit somebody, which will make things interesting at the next level.”
Irving Fryar (from Nebraska) was the #1 pick in the 1984 draft…and played 17 seasons in the NFL amassing 851 catches for 12,785 yards and 84 TDs.
PS…how the heck is he not int he HOF??
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
12:58 pm
Sure seems so, FLJ.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
1:00 pm
The issue is precisely THAT the offense is different, Mark (another one). There are certainly some valid critiques, but you won’t find many of them here.
Paul in NH
April 30th, 2012
1:03 pm
“Unless that QB is Blaine Gabbert…”
Or Tim Tebow
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
1:05 pm
“Or Tim Tebow”
Or JaMarcus “purple drank” Russell
Paul in NH
April 30th, 2012
1:06 pm
Interesting comments from the Jets’ GM but I am taking some of them with a grain of salt. EVERY GM talks about how great their #1 and #2 draft picks will do in the league. None of them know whether their picks will work out. Examples – Ryan Leaf, Tony Mandarich, Mike Williams, Aundray Bruce……
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
1:07 pm
Paul…
What’s gotten into the Toffies?
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
1:07 pm
Good call, Paul!
Is this the part where I take a stab at FLJ and say any QB that has played for the Dolphins in the last decade?
Paul in NH
April 30th, 2012
1:08 pm
Man U over Sittay. SAF wins another EPL
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
1:08 pm
We have been discussing these perceptions on another site about “NFL Ready”.
Can you name me a NFL player who played for Saban at Bama or LSU who is a pro bowler or who has already had a long career?
MT Cody had zero sacks in 2011, same # as Matthew Stafford LOL
UGA has at least 20 guys right now who are long time NFL guys and/or are making pro bowls.
It may be that being at Tech and being the only guy catching the majority of the passes might be an advantage and give insight as to durability?
Paul in NH
April 30th, 2012
1:12 pm
FLJ
Same thing that seems to happen every year. Start slowly and be fighting to avoid relegation at Christmas. Buckle down, make a couple of key signings (Jelavic, Piennaar, some guy from the LA Galaxy) turn into the 2nd coming of Ajax in the 2nd half of the season.
4 goals in 3 consecutive games, including at Old Trafford, is quite an achievement hough.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
1:13 pm
GS…
Which one…Ray Lucas? Chad Pennington? Jay Fiedler? John Beck? A.J. Feeley? Chad Henne? Pat White? Tyler Thigpen? Matt Moore? Cleo Lemon? Sage Rosenfels? Gus Frerotte? Daunte Culpepper? Brain Griese? Damon Huard? Josh Heupel? Joey Harrington? Trent Green?
Paul in NH
April 30th, 2012
1:14 pm
DawginLex
The number of Pro Bowlers who played their final college season for Saban at either LSU or Alabama is ZERO
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
1:14 pm
“4 goals in 3 consecutive games, including at Old Trafford, is quite an achievement though.”
Paul…4-0 against the Cottagers (yikes) makes it 0 for the last 19 at Goodison Park…not even a freaking point in any of those!
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
1:17 pm
“Man U over Sittay. SAF wins another EPL”
Paul…I’m smelling draw in this one
dawgfan
April 30th, 2012
1:42 pm
““Pro-style” offense is a marketing gimmick college teams use to give recruits the somewhat misguided impression that their offense will prepare them for the type of base offense NFL teams run.”
Or it could just as easily be a term created by the media to describe teams with a traditional offense, but that doesn’t fit the crybaby “I’m a butthurt Techie upset that my team is irrelevant in football” narrative that you are so obviously going for. A marketing gimmick? You are a joke.
TWO players drafted in the past 2 season Techies. Georgia Tech=JOKE.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
1:43 pm
“The number of Pro Bowlers who played their final college season for Saban at either LSU or Alabama is ZERO”
This is really interesting. It may mean nothing, or it may mean something. Off the top of my head, I would hypothesize that the data says that Saban does a masterful job of getting the most out of his players in college, but they don’t have much room to grow when they get to the NFL. This makes them low ceiling, but high floor guys. Essentially, they are predictable but not projectable.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
1:46 pm
Pretty sure the joke’s on you, dawgfan.
Delbert D.
April 30th, 2012
1:50 pm
Historically, the “pro set” is the fullback and running back split behind the quarterback. There are several pro “style” offenses including the I-formation, which was first run by the Chiefs under Hank Stram, if memory serves me correctly. The Bill Walsh west coast offense is another, and just as significant are the various line blocking schemes. Shanahan is still running the zone blocking scheme that Alex Gibbs installed at Denver, and later Atlanta during the Warrick Dunn years. A key element of that scheme is cut blocking. When Bill McKittrick installed it in Bill Walsh’s first year with the 49ers, it turned a 2-win team the year before into Super Bowl contenders throughout the 1980s.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
1:51 pm
“TWO players drafted in the past 2 season Techies. Georgia Tech=JOKE.”
The expectation that the 2nd youngest team in FBS in 2011 have a lot of draft picks?
dwagfan’s logic=JOKE
dawgfan
April 30th, 2012
1:53 pm
“I would hypothesize that the data says that Saban does a masterful job of getting the most out of his players in college, but they don’t have much room to grow when they get to the NFL.”
I would hypothesize that you don’t have the foggiest effing clue what in the hell you are talking about. 7 Bama players just got drafted, 4 in the first round. So you know better than all of those NFL teams Techie?!?!?!?!
Tech fans make some of the most assinine braindead arguments at the most inopportune times. They wait until Bama has SEVEN players drafted, more than any other college team, to try and argue that Saban does not prepare players for the NFL. Its like waiting until the most clear and sunny day possible to make the argument that the sky is not blue.
Tech fans are as bright as a tree stump.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
1:55 pm
Do you struggle with reading comprehension, dawgfan?
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
1:55 pm
“They wait until Bama has SEVEN players drafted, more than any other college team, to try and argue that Saban does not prepare players for the NFL. Its like waiting until the most clear and sunny day possible to make the argument that the sky is not blue”
dwagfan pretends the players from Alabama who got drafted were mediocre to begin with until touched by Nick’s magic hands…
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
1:57 pm
dawgfan
We were discussing how UGA has players in the league longer and how we have more pro bowlers than Saban coached players at LSU and Bama.
Could change down the road but right now, UGA players do better and stay longer in the pros than Saban prepared players
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
1:59 pm
And we are looking at 7 defensive players being drafted in the 1st 3 rounds next year so it is put up or shutup time in Athens IMO
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
1:59 pm
Only in dawgfan’s mind would he think I was slighting Saban when I pointed out that he does a masterful job of getting the most out his players.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
2:00 pm
I doubt defense will be y’all’s problem this year, Lex. Gotta figure out a way to run the ball.
dawgfan
April 30th, 2012
2:01 pm
“The expectation that the 2nd youngest team in FBS in 2011 have a lot of draft picks?”
LOL. You had eight players that were eligible for the draft Captain Clueless. That excuse simply does not fly. If I had a dime for every excuse that you pulled out of your butt I would be a freaking gazillionaire by now. Its all you know how to do dude.
Thanks.
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
2:01 pm
Yep, that dang offensive line again
Although, we will be young but much more athletic but, way more inexperienced
won’t know what we have until game 4 or 5
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
2:03 pm
DawginLex…
I agree with GS…the OL as it currently stands is a weakness for the Dawgs. And the offense, as a whole, will rely on freshman like Jay Rome. they might even have to play true freshman like John Theus and Blake Tibbs.
dawgfan
April 30th, 2012
2:04 pm
It took a while, butt finally CMR’s stool sample has arrived. Today was a good one! Type 4 on the Bristol Stool Chart (my personal favorite!!!!!) Quite long at 11.5 inches, 13.8 oz (wonder what he ate to produce that one?) No corn today, but I did notice several peanuts…..
Thanks,
dawgfan = CMR’s “Official Poo Inspector”
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
2:04 pm
Mizzou should test them a little, Lex. I have to expect the gameplan to center around playing keep-away from them because of the problems with depth in the secondary. Y’all will have to run to win.
OK, give the "offense delayed his developement" a rest...
April 30th, 2012
2:05 pm
…fast guys are a dime a dozen; fast guys who can catch are a dollar a dozen. Fast guys who can block rarely exist, so they are $100 a dozen; they can work on the “catching” part.
Fast guys who can catch AND block are worth first and second round draft picks, thus potentially worth millions of $, ’cause, as most GM’s and coaches in the NFL will tell you, it is MUCH easier to teach guys to catch than it is to teach them to block – blocking is a “want to” attitude, and most guys “DON’T want to”..
And, Mr. Hill excelled at thisblocking thingy, as do most of CPJ’s receivers, ’cause they don’t play in his offense if they can’t, or don’t want, to block…and that is why Hill is now in the NFL…
ron
April 30th, 2012
2:07 pm
LMAO Lex…you just made this troll dwagfan look like a total putz
dawgfan
April 30th, 2012
2:07 pm
George, after re-reading your post I retract my thrashing of you. I did indeed misunderstand you. I was reading some of FL Jacket’s garbage and I automatically assumed that you were also a crybaby Techie that is butthurt over Tech’s futility in football. Generally you are, but in that particular post you were not. My apologies.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
2:07 pm
“LOL. You had eight players that were eligible for the draft Captain Clueless. That excuse simply does not fly. If I had a dime for every excuse that you pulled out of your butt I would be a freaking gazillionaire by now. Its all you know how to do dude.”
ahhh dwagfan…priceless
I sincerely hope you troll up the Aubrun and Tennessee chat boards as well…because they only drafted 1 player while having more eligible than Tech. I guess they are joke programs too right?
Except that part where all three schools (Auburn, Tennessee, and Tech) have all won MNC’s more recently than uGA. And just imagine if Jan Kemp had opened her mouth sooner?
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
2:09 pm
Not that young.
Gates, burnette and houston are upperclassmen. Andrews and some other sophs will play. We have 16 on schollie so that sure helps.
Rome will backup Lynch. Running backs will be Samuel(SR-FB) and Crowell and Malcome(Soph-RB). Receivers are mix of seniors and sophs. QB is RS JR.
I’m tired of the excuses. The OL is good enough and actually has depth. The defense is dam good. Kickers are true freshmen-that’s a bit of a worry though both very good, they are 18.
The suspensions totally hack me off. Survive Mizzou and we can run the table until SC. More than 1 loss and they underachieve in my book
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
2:10 pm
” I was reading some of FL Jacket’s garbage and I automatically assumed that you were also a crybaby Techie that is butthurt over Tech’s futility in football”
dwagfan…
Obviously you don’t like facts…as you only see them as excuses. Futility? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
dawgfan
April 30th, 2012
2:10 pm
“you were also a crybaby Techie that is butthurt ”
I know all about butts, See my CMR poo report.
Delbert D.
April 30th, 2012
2:15 pm
FL Jacket – I can think of a few better anagrams for a certain troll’s nym, but I’ll let others have fun with that.
GTfan 2012
April 30th, 2012
2:17 pm
dwagfan shows himself to be the troll that he is. He insults someone who is actually paying a complement to UGA’s players success in the NFL. Classic.
dawgfan
April 30th, 2012
2:25 pm
I’m so preoccupied with butts, I sometimes put my head up my own….
thanks,
dawgfan = butthead
GT Lee
April 30th, 2012
2:26 pm
maybe that explains why dwagfan has such a ‘crappy’ outlook on life….
GT fan
April 30th, 2012
2:31 pm
DinLex, GS:
Unless some teams make dramatic turnarounds (Ole Miss, UT, UK, UF), UGA’s 2012 schedule is actually weaker than the 2011 schedule. The new SEC member, MIZZOU, replaces Boise ST.
At this point, projecting to December, if UGA doesn’t have 10+ Ws the coaching staff needs to have some heat placed on its back.
Jacket Man
April 30th, 2012
2:32 pm
Rex Ryan, Head Coach of the Jets, has already come out and said he expects Stephen Hill to be a starter when the season begins. He has already personally had a private workout with him before drafting him so I suspect Ryan has an idea whether he is comfortable as to whether Stephen will be able to run those “pro-style” routes that the Jets will need come this Fall.
macrotech
April 30th, 2012
2:32 pm
Well…ding dang!!! “More (important) than the offense is his skill set, and I think his skill set transfers to this level pretty well.”…..guess that puts things in perspective regarding Tech’s ability to land receivers in the NFL while implementing to Triple Option based offense. I’ll take Clinkskale’s word over ANY armchair ‘coach’ with a computer and a blogger’s forum ANYDAY. He’s ONLY the VP of College Scouting! Congrats Stephen Hill…wish you the best!!!
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
2:42 pm
“I’ll take Clinkskale’s word over ANY armchair ‘coach’ with a computer and a blogger’s forum ANYDAY. He’s ONLY the VP of College Scouting!”
macrotech…
I still think WnE will believe he’s more competent at judging football talent than an NFL head scout…
GTfan 2012
April 30th, 2012
2:51 pm
WnE also believes he is a master CFB recruiter, since he spent so much time trying to convince (also knows as stalking) Vad Lee NOT to come to GT.
GT Lee
April 30th, 2012
2:53 pm
yes, FLJ, Football Guru Gollum is a legend in his own mind
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
2:53 pm
WnE has to be related to tide roll, Mike Bobo 17 Int and SSIGator.
GT Lee
April 30th, 2012
2:59 pm
speaking of Football Guru Gollum, now that the lunchtime rush is over, shouldn’t he be regaling us with tales of his unending football knowledge soon?
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
3:01 pm
WnE burned my fries over the weekend. Had to go back through the drive thru
www
April 30th, 2012
3:02 pm
good luck to stephen hill. i think he can do big things in nyc.
GT Lee
April 30th, 2012
3:03 pm
LMAO @ Lex……did he at least get the men’s room cleaned?
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
3:07 pm
Did you set your TiVo, FLJ?
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
3:08 pm
Don’t know. I was in the drive thru line. Twice
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
3:10 pm
Been to any of the UK baseball games, Lex? They seem to be pretty damn good.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
3:11 pm
GS…I didn’t, but Fox Soccer Channel (FSC) will probably re-air it at 8 PM tonight.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
3:12 pm
It’s on ESPN, I think. I set mine on ESPN, so it better be!
If do right, no can defense
April 30th, 2012
3:19 pm
Congratulations to Mr. Hill on going pro with the Jets.
Our WR core is thin now… I saw the spring game and none of them really impressed me. Honestly, the A-backs are better catchers. I do like the blocking duo of Darren Waller and Jeff Greene – both 6-5, 200-220… just hope they develop into good receivers. Also have hope from Matty Alcala… And we have Chris Jackson & Jeremy Moore for the Tyler Melton replacement. It’s not that bad, I guess.
1 4 GT
April 30th, 2012
3:21 pm
FLJ–GS–macrotech–et al–I derive pleasure from reading this “GT” blog today. Except for dwagfan, whom ya’ll pretty much nailed. This article today does not stand alone in praising Stephen Hill’s athletic prowess. I won’t go so far as saying saying “Can’t Miss”. But I will say he has an excellent chance at being a highly productive NFL receiver. Unfortunately, Gollum will eventually show up and give his highly anticipated commentary. Can’t Wait.
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
3:23 pm
Baseball team is good. Kinda smoke and mirrors as it was unexpected. Went to a couple of games. Lost their 1st series this past weekend. May get to host a regional
Big Crimson 75
April 30th, 2012
3:37 pm
Stephen Hill is not in the same category as Megatron!!
I believe Bey-Bey is also a better WR @ the NFL level.
At best, Hill is a Heyward-Bey type.
I still think the best spot for him would have Detroit!!
BLT
April 30th, 2012
3:43 pm
Good Luck Mr. Hill. Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday! Go Jackets!
gt4ever
April 30th, 2012
3:45 pm
Tannenbaum shared an interesting detail from his interview with Hill regarding his recruitment to Tech. As presumably a lot of teams did, the Jets asked Hill why a wide receiver would play for a run-oriented offense.
Tannenbaum: “He said they were initially the only team that had offered him and he had committed to them and later on in the process a few other more traditional passing teams had offered him a scholarship, but he didn’t want to back out on his commitment,” Tannenbaum said. “I thought that was very admirable. Again, that’s not why we took him or why we were interested in him, but that was an interesting anecdote because we were asking him why would you go there knowing you’re a receiver and that they’re going to run the ball.”
If you’ll remember, Hill committed to Tech in the fall of 2008 (he had actually committed to Central Florida prior to that) before Georgia (Tennessee did, as well) made a late push, which caused Hill to waver before sticking with Tech.
This is the part of the article that proves this system has a definite IMPACT on recruiting…. Yes, Hill was the exception, because of his honor he kept his commitment. He is in the MINORITY. Period..
1 4 GT
April 30th, 2012
3:47 pm
Some guys must not read the posts completely. No one has said Hill is from the same mold as Megatron…………………………………………just in his measureables. Read guys, b/4 commenting.
juvenal
April 30th, 2012
3:47 pm
Jerry Rice went to MVSU…..
Big Crimson 75
April 30th, 2012
3:51 pm
WnE — You’re a Fool!
I guess self-loathing GT isn’t enough — now You’re going after Julio & the Falcons.
You’ve been bashing Julio all week-end on the Falcons blogs.
After Julio breaks every single season Falcon receiving record & every All-Time Receiving Record — I’m gonna send him to your dungeon, so He can wipe the floor with you & lil precious!!
Big Crimson 75
April 30th, 2012
3:54 pm
14 GT — If under no. 3 is not comparing Hill & Tron — it’s pretty darn close!!!
Jacket Fan
April 30th, 2012
3:59 pm
Any Jackets picked up as free agents yet?
Supersize that order, mutt
April 30th, 2012
4:01 pm
It’s pretty telling when dwagfan gets slammed by Lex, who is a REAL UGA fan, and not a mutt pooper scooper and inspector.
GTfan 2012
April 30th, 2012
4:07 pm
Big Crimson 75,
We’ve disowned WnE. Please don’t reference him with GT or true GT fans. Thanks.
DawginLex
April 30th, 2012
4:10 pm
supersize
You know what is really sad?
I have to come to the Tech blog to actually talk football!
1 4 GT
April 30th, 2012
4:17 pm
3. Clinkscales, on if Hill reminds the Jets of anyone:
“He’s unique. He’s a 6’4 kid that weighs 215 and runs a 4.32. He’s a unique athlete, he really is. Calvin Johnson, maybe? And I’m not going to put that label on him but from a height, weight, speed moniker. He’s just a unique athlete.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
4:19 pm
I guess the thing I’m wondering about the offense next season is that during Johnson’s time here, we’ve always had a clear number one receiver, which has its pluses and minuses. I’m wondering who – if anyone – is the number one guy and, if there isn’t one, what the offense will look like.
1 4 GT
April 30th, 2012
4:21 pm
B C 75—–Not starting an argument but how is #3 comparing Hill to Megatron except for his measureables (height, weight, vertical jump & speed). As Clinkscales plainly says.
GT Lee
April 30th, 2012
4:32 pm
@ George in the spring game Deon Hill (A Back) seemed to be the best receiver……somebody’s GOT to step up at WR
Big Crimson 75
April 30th, 2012
4:47 pm
JacketFan — ESPNs ACC site claims no GT free agents were signed today.
14 — I wasn’t comparing Hill to Tron, or to Bey Bey for that matter.
IMHO, as I posted earlier, Hill is a Heyward-Bey type. Too bad the Raiders didn’t have a first rd pick.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
4:55 pm
Agreed, Lee. I keep expecting it to be Jeff Greene.
macrotech
April 30th, 2012
5:00 pm
WnE….sigh. Bless his little heart….REALLY gets all worked up, doesn’t he? I have no doubt that receivers take an extra hard look at committing to a run oriented offense…who could blame them?! Now that Hill has proven that making it out of this offense and into the NFL IS possible…CAN’T be a bad thing. In fact…CPJ and crew will CERTAINLY use him as an example when recruiting! Go TECH!!!
Joe Bling
April 30th, 2012
5:01 pm
Mark (another one) wrote: “Hill has great physical tools and has always appeared willing to work hard.”
No question about the first part, but the second part is not true at all. Hill had all kinds of issues during his time at Tech, including attitude problems and a poor work ethic. I’m glad to see he finally got his act together and put all of that talent to use impressing the scouts. I just wish he had shown a better work ethic at Tech and had been the college player he could have been. He was a major disappointment at Tech, lest we forget.
There’s an article linked above that has a quote in it from PJ comparing Demaryius Thomas and Stephen Hill. He complements both players’ physical skills, but he says they were very different players. He notes Thomas was a really hard worker, but does not say the same thing about Hill. I thought that was interesting.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
5:23 pm
“we’ve always had a clear number one receiver, which has its pluses and minuses. I’m wondering who – if anyone – is the number one guy and, if there isn’t one, what the offense will look like.”
GS…I think it’s more hurtful than helpful…unless we’ve made the tactical decision to throw it to A-Backs more. The known deep threat (like BeyBey or S Hill) is vital to keep one or both Safeties from coming into the box pre-snap. Jeff Greene has the physical tools to play WR int he offense, but I’ve read he isn’t as aggressive yet. Darren Waller also has the measurables to be fantastic…but he’s raw as a WR. Is Jeremy Moore the X-factor if he can stay healthy? And is Chris Jackson finally getting his role in the offense…because I hear he’s a natural pass-catcher.
Delbert D.
April 30th, 2012
5:46 pm
Thomas was an assassin as a blocker while at Georgia Tech. In the scheme that the Jets use, Hill has a chance to further develop in that area as well as a receiver.
Paddy
April 30th, 2012
5:56 pm
Well folks, the same QB that couldn’t throw to his receivers is back trying to throw to a new and less talented set of receivers. Tech has always had QB’s that were good passers., Until CPJ gets that guy it will be the same results, good team not great.
HighTech
April 30th, 2012
6:49 pm
Paddy…All indications are Vad Lee is that passing quarterback. However, he has a hill to climb to unseat Tevin Washington from the #1 spot. It will be ability versus experience. Also, I believe Tevin has a very strong work ethic and will improve quite a bit. He may surprise some folks this season.
230gr Full Metal Jacket
April 30th, 2012
8:05 pm
Paddy… I think that we’ll see Wahington as the starter for the first few games, but by mid season I have a feeling that Lee will be the starter, unless he does as HighTech suggested and shows some major improvement in his passing game. Tevin does do a pretty good job of running the offense (except for a bad habit of keeping the ball when he should pitch it to the outside — especially when the game is tight), but Vad Lee (or possibly Justin Thomas, if he doesn’t become a receiver or A-Back) is the future of Tech’s offense — and that future looks pretty dang good!!!
BirminghamJacket
April 30th, 2012
8:33 pm
Congrats to Hill.
Don’t see it…
But good for him. He wouldn’t have contributed significantly to our stupid offense this year.
JB
April 30th, 2012
9:19 pm
Great chance for him with the Jets. Imagine a QB who can get a pass within say 5-10 yards of him…and on a rope. 28 career catch’s for 563 yards and 3 TD’s is a fine career under Johnson for a WR. Good luck young man.
George Stein
April 30th, 2012
9:32 pm
You really think Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow are capable of accurate throwing, JB?
GTfan2012
April 30th, 2012
9:55 pm
Birmingham Jacket,
I posted this in another thread in response to your comments about CPJ’s winning percentage primarily being attributable to another coaches recruits, but I’d love to hear your thoughts.
So let me see if I got this straight. CPJ get no credit for winning ANY games in his first two or so years because most of those players were recruited under the prior coach. I’ll play along. In 2010, GT had one of its worst years in recent memory. But the good news for CPJ is that he can’t really be blamed for that, by your logic, because 18 of the 22 starters were not recruited by CPJ.
Tampa Gator
April 30th, 2012
10:46 pm
The Tebow lead Gators won a national title. The Tebow led Broncos won their division and beat the mighty Steelers in the playoffs. No, he is not Payton Manning and never will be. But to compare him to some of those loser QBs in the NFL just shows bias and ignorance. Tebow will help make the Jets better this year…..as will Hill.
Paul in NH
April 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
Looks like Tampa Gator thinks that Tebow is going to do a heck of a job sending the signals in to Mark Sanchez.
Sautee Dawg
April 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
“Jets gush about Stephen Hill”. “gush”? I don’t believe i’d have wrote that. “gush”?
GTfan2012
April 30th, 2012
11:17 pm
Paul in NH,
I think the Jets will utilize Tebow 5-10 plays per game. He will have an opportunity to make plays. Whether he does or not is up to the way he is used plus his athletic ability. If he is used strictly as a wildcat runner, it will probably be unsuccessful. If he’s allowed to actually throw the ball, he is much more likely to have success.
Paul in NH
April 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
GTfan2012
I agree with your expectations for Tebow with the Jets. Having said that, he is a long way from being a good NFL QB. He is going to be the 5th best QB in his division after Brady, Fitzpatrick, Sanchez, Matt Moore.
A great college QB with lots to prove in the NFL – it must be a UF Heisman QB thing.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:46 pm
“I think the Jets will utilize Tebow 5-10 plays per game. He will have an opportunity to make plays. Whether he does or not is up to the way he is used plus his athletic ability. If he is used strictly as a wildcat runner, it will probably be unsuccessful. If he’s allowed to actually throw the ball, he is much more likely to have success.”
GTfan2012…
While I think Tebow certainly has the “it” factor great QBs need…Tebow certainly hasn’t shown the ability yet to be trusted to chuck it 30+ times a game. The formula that worked in Denver – hoping your defense allows 13 points or less and waiting until the 4th quarter for a meaningful scoring drive – isn’t one based on sound process.
He still throws a very inconsistent ball, has ball security issues, and can’t adjust the passing game to the defense. It took Steve McNair 3-4 years but he eventually became an NFL MVP so I think Tebow deserves that long to develop.
WnE
April 30th, 2012
11:47 pm
Thanks for the update Ken.
Since Free Agent signings have been extensive since the Draft wrapped up, could you please create a blog entry about the comprehensive list of Draft-eligible former Yellow Jackets that got Free Agent contracts?
Thanks in advance.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:48 pm
Paul…City is certainly exorcising demons this year. I hope they don’t blow it on survival Sunday.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:56 pm
“Since Free Agent signings have been extensive since the Draft wrapped up, could you please create a blog entry about the comprehensive list of Draft-eligible former Yellow Jackets that got Free Agent contracts?
Thanks in advance.”
What a tool…spoken like a “true” Tech fan. I guess you’ll blame CPJ for it even though Roddy Jones and Jason Peters were Chan Gailey recruits. Funny how their CCG’s recruits only when they win…but CPJ’s fault when they lose or don’t get drafted.
WnE
April 30th, 2012
11:57 pm
re:
He still throws a very inconsistent ball, has ball security issues, and can’t adjust the passing game to the defense. It took Steve McNair 3-4 years but he eventually became an NFL MVP so I think Tebow deserves that long to develop.
___________
Tebow is nothing like McNair.
McNair played vs. lower level competition so a major part of his transition was adjusting to the increased complexity AND the increased speed of the NFL Game.
But McNair did have a strong arm and very good throwing mechanics.
Tebow played vs. elite competition, but he has always had horrible to poor throwing mechanics and only avg. arm strength.
It is lot easier to take a guy (McNair) with good throwing mechanics and a strong arm that played at the lower levels of CFB and help that person learn the “NFL Game” than it is to take a guy with a weak to avg. arm and poor throwing mechanics (Tebow) and try and make that player a franchise QB.
The guy that drafted Tebow got fired the very next year, and he deserved it, no way he should have used those 2 first round draft choices on Tebow & Bay-Bay, both players could have been had later in the draft probably in the 2nd round.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:59 pm
WnE…you’re a tool who I’m sure rejoiced when no other Tech players got drafted or signed immediately after the draft. Get lost.
WnE
April 30th, 2012
11:59 pm
re:
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:56 pm
_____________
Am I not allowed to ask about former Jackets or want to find out which NFL teams they went to?
WTH?
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
12:00 am
Are you twittering NFL GMs too?
wreckbone
May 1st, 2012
12:05 am
You guys all forget, Stephen Hill looked like a track star playing wide receiver until last year. He put 15-20 lbs of muscle on and then he was able to win a few. Remember his sophomore year, DB from Va Tech took the ball from him in the endzone. Lsat year I remember if anything offensive pass interference on Hill but when he went up he didn’t lose the ball to a DB. It takes time to adjust to that sort of change in the body. So he only had one true year with his Wide receiver physique. It makes a huge diference.
George Stein
May 1st, 2012
12:05 am
“But McNair did have a strong arm and very good throwing mechanics.”
This cracks me up. This clown doesn’t know a damn thing about mechanics.
It would take very little research to find out no former Tech players had signed free agent contracts. You should sleep well tonight knowing that.
George Stein
May 1st, 2012
12:07 am
I like Tebow, Tampa Gator. My prior comment was more of a dig at Sanchez, who is terrible. As for Tebow, most NFL types are far too uncreative to ever get the most out of a unique talent like Tebow.
George Stein
May 1st, 2012
12:08 am
“Tebow played vs. elite competition, but he has always had horrible to poor throwing mechanics and only avg. arm strength.”
Clearly it damaged his ability to be successful.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
12:11 am
GS…I think there are miles of strides Tim Tebow needs to make before he can be labeled “capable NFL starting QB”. His ability to read coverages is the one that sticks out to me. Like I said before Tool Time showed up…I think 3-4 years is deserved to try to refine his obvious physical gifts. But it’s that mental side where it needs to happen.
George Stein
May 1st, 2012
12:15 am
The issue with Tebow is everyone wants him to fit into the same box as other quarterbacks, and that’s not who he is. It’ll take an open minded coach with some job security for him to ever truly reach his potential.
Did you watch the derby?
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
12:19 am
No, just read the recap. Kompany headed one in before the break but I didn’t see the chances both sides had.
Don’t fall for the Tebow results…understand how the Tebow process needs to improve. The refined mechanics still fail him when he’s under duress. DET and KC made the Broncos look awful this year…NE not to the same extent. The defense kept them in it with superhuman efforts IMHO.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
12:25 am
The question you have to ask is…what would Tebow’s potential look like? It can’t be out if the same spread formation game after game because NFL defenses will adjust.
If he were ever able to run a 5-wide offensive set competently where he could tuck it and run when running lanes were open…I think we’d be using his skill sets better. But he’d have to get to the point where he could dissect 8-man coverages…and it will take time if ever at all.
William Casey
May 1st, 2012
1:46 am
WRECKBONE made a good point about Stephen Hill and his physical development. One BIG difference remains between him and Calvin Johnson or Bey Bey Thomas. He lets way too many balls get in too close to his body before trying to catch them. This is a flaw that can be corrected.
Paddy
May 1st, 2012
4:43 am
230gr……….Tevin is a capable QB. But as a Sr, you should not expect him to become Sonny Jurgenson by Sept. Until CPJ gets that unique talent at QB,you are stuck at above avg as a team, unable to get over the hump to stardom.
Mk
May 1st, 2012
7:36 am
Good luck Stephen.
Phildo
May 1st, 2012
8:11 am
Not too certain if gush is the right word to them to use. They may find out they should have used the word spew. Looks good in flashes, offset by half-hearted efforts and hands that turn into hams.
GTfan 2012
May 1st, 2012
8:54 am
FL Jacket,
I question whether Tebow is going to get that chance. Denver seemed like one of the few places that was committed to him, and they were only committed until they found a better option. Tebow’s play book in New York isn’t exactly going to be wide open, so I’ll be interested to see how much he can really develop when his only semi-meaningful snaps running a traditional pro offense will be in the preseason.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
9:08 am
GTfan2012…
I understand where you are coming from. Just remember that as the backup he gets reps with the 1st team offense and has to know all, or somewhat close, to the entire playbook as well. He will earn his playing time or spot on the depth chart in training camp…and it will be based on his grasp of the base offense.
John H
May 1st, 2012
9:25 am
Why is he talking about catching passes from Mark Sanchez? Tim Tebow is the QB for the Jets and he don’t throw so good.
GTfan 2012
May 1st, 2012
10:02 am
FL Jacket,
That’s interesting, I guess we will see. Maybe you are right, but I worry that Sparano is going to see Tebow simply as another RB that he will use to run the wildcat, with no threat of passing associated with it. So Tebow will have his little playbook, and while I expect him to be named the back up QB (because they don’t really have anyone else), like most back ups in the NFL, he will get limited PT in the traditional offense. Most NFL teams are screwed if they have to go to their backup. Then again with Sanchez’ numbers, the drop off to Tebow may not be all that great.
QB development usually only happens with actual playing time, and I think that’s even more true with Tebow, because of some of his issues with mechanics and reading defenses. Aaron Rogers was able to sit on the bench in Green Bay and eventually come in as the starter, but he seems to be the exception more than the rule, and I think he had a much different skill set coming out of college. Most of these guys have to play QB to get better, and my concern with Tebow is that the only opportunity he will have to play is not going to help him get better as a QB.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
10:11 am
” Aaron Rogers was able to sit on the bench in Green Bay and eventually come in as the starter, but he seems to be the exception more than the rule, and I think he had a much different skill set coming out of college”
There have been quite a few QBs who have grasped their potential after 2-3 or more years of sitting on the bench or playing in inferior leagues. Aaron Rodgers, Steve McNair, Tony Romo, Matt Schaub, and Kurt Warner (he played in the Arena league for 3 yrs) all became regular NFL starters and elite QBs.
GTfan 2012
May 1st, 2012
10:49 am
FL Jacket,
Yes it does happen, BUT this does not seem to be the current model of the NFL. Right this moment, I cannot name one young QB sitting on the bench being groomed to be a starter behind an established guy (that doesn’t mean there isn’t one, I just can’t think of one whcih means there aren’t many). Virtually all the QBs drafted in the first few rounds in the last several drafts are starters… except Tebow. In 2012 5 QBs were drafted in the first two rounds, four of them will likely be expected to be starters. Only Brock Osweiler will get to sit behind Peyton Manning. In 2011, 6 QBs were drafted in the first two rounds, only Colin Kapernick isn’t starting. In 2010, 4 QBs were drafted in the first three rounds, Jimmy Clausen isn’t starting, but only b/c he got drafted over in 2011, and of course Tebow isn’t starting. Colt McCoy was a starter, but probably won’t be now. In 2009, 3 QBs were drafted in the 1st round (none in rds 2-3), and all started immediately. See a pattern.
Technically Correct
May 1st, 2012
11:04 am
We are all happy with Stephen Hill’s success, but, frankly, enough is enough and it is time to move on. He is no longer with the program and Tech fans are more interested in mundane stuff like recruiting of future players and matters relating to current players. Ken, might I suggest that you read the columns of the Dwag writers on the AJC (including Carvell) and try to emulate that from a Tech perspective?
GTfan 2012
May 1st, 2012
11:07 am
Technically Correct,
Yes, I agree. Ken should abandon all objective journalism for blind homerism. In addition, Ken should throw various jabs a UGAs lack of SEC and MNC championships into his writing, even when they have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
BS Patrol
May 1st, 2012
11:31 am
The burning question: Can the Jets cure alligator arm?
The Truth
May 1st, 2012
11:48 am
Ken – do you have a story coming on the arrest of GT’s starting OT? Arrested for property damage and fighting. It is truly amazing how this outlet chooses to run a front page story on a former Georgia player (Caleb King) who was academically ineligible for his Sr season, is living in Minneapolis where he is on the roster of the Vikings, yet can’t find the space for a 10 months to run a story about a starting LB at GT arrested for Boating Under the INfluence and now is absent while a starting OL is arrested.
Before anyone weighs in on Georgia players being arrested, if it is as common place as you GT people insist it’s odd why it would be news. Whereas when pristine GT athletes are arrested that should be news, given it is a true rarity.
George Stein
May 1st, 2012
11:53 am
Do a little reading before writing, The Truth. There was a post about it last week. Further, the player was not arrested. Again, think for two seconds, then write.
I would also add that the stock markets close everyday, and everyday it’s news.
You handle is perfectly ironic. Grow up already.
JM
May 1st, 2012
11:57 am
Congratulations Stephen!
HighTech
May 1st, 2012
12:11 pm
lol @ George Stein. The Truth’s handle should be The Uninformed.
George Stein
May 1st, 2012
12:18 pm
Totally, HT.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
1:22 pm
The “Truth”…
Don’t you know the unwritten rules of Journalism? “When it calls you Eddie Murphy and bleeds…it leads”
The Truth
May 1st, 2012
1:29 pm
Sorry. I was too busy packing WnE’s fudge to actually read anything. My bad.
Techno
May 1st, 2012
1:34 pm
Just wait till he starts dropping passes he should catch.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
1:40 pm
“Just wait till he starts dropping passes he should catch.”
Just wait until he starts catching passes he should drop…
Burdell
May 1st, 2012
2:14 pm
The previous two posts summarize Stephen Hill’s legacy at Georgia Tech.
juvenal
May 1st, 2012
3:07 pm
Jerry Rice had a lot of drops his rookie year….
jarvis
May 1st, 2012
3:56 pm
I think Hill will be a good pro…hopefully the Jets will have someone to deliver the ball to him.
Dawg48
May 1st, 2012
4:02 pm
I’m going to the grocery store to buy some milk to see if 5150’s face is on the back of it. I’m worried about him.
WnE
May 1st, 2012
4:42 pm
re:
Jerry Rice’s College stats.
1983 Mississippi Valley State WR 102 1450 14.2 14 4 -14 -3.5 0 106 1436 13.5 14
1984 Mississippi Valley State WR 103 1682 16.3 27 1 -3 -3.0 0 104 1679 16.1 27
His last 2 years in college Rice had 102 & 103 catches in 11-game Seasons.
Imagine the problem Hill MIGHT have with drops since he only caught 50 balls his entire career.
WnE
May 1st, 2012
4:46 pm
let me try those Rice stats again:
1983 Mississippi Valley State WR
rec yds. avg. tds
102 1450 14.2 14
1984 Mississippi Valley State WR
rec yds. avg. tds
103 1682 16.3 27
George Stein
May 1st, 2012
4:53 pm
“Imagine the problem Hill MIGHT have with drops since he only caught 50 balls his entire career.”
Don’t worry! He’s been working with Terrance Mathis.
The Truth
May 1st, 2012
5:01 pm
WnE would know about drops…..you should see how often he drops his jar of Vaseline-and he’s caught WAY more than 50 balls
sports
May 1st, 2012
5:03 pm
what a joke, probably want the team
Dirtybirdsin12
May 1st, 2012
5:05 pm
Comparing Hill to Calvin is blasphemy. I watched Hill drop at least 5 sure TD’s the past two seasons. Plus to hear Hill mention that he is glad to be in an offense where he will finally get passes thrown his way is an outrage. I don’t know what makes him think he’ll get more than the 5-8 looks a game he got at Tech, and a comment like that is nothing but detrimental to his former coach’s efforts to recruit. I’m not sure which is worse, his lack of class or his catching ability.
Hill top 56
May 1st, 2012
5:27 pm
They say you can’t teach speed .. which the guy has to go along with size , Maybe he will make it time will only tell . I remeber a game played in late Nov. he didnot have a good game when they had to throw that was the QB ’s play there I think . still on the fence about this . more coments to come .
Out.
Ghost
May 1st, 2012
5:43 pm
Did any Tech players get picked up as free agents?
Tampa Gator
May 1st, 2012
6:12 pm
@Paul in NH….
Tebow could play on the Super Bowl winning Jets…..and he still would have a lot top prove. Tebow does not need to prove anything to anyone. Tebow has won a national title as a college QB. He personally has won a Heisman Trophy. He QB the Broncos to a division title in his first year as a starter….and then beat the odds makers by helping his team upset the Steelers in the playoffs. Again….Tebow could be on a Super Bowl champion and he would still not measure up to most of you. Tebow is just good….at winning. I will take a winner any day over super duper QBs who don’t win anything.
Ghost
May 1st, 2012
6:37 pm
Tampa gator, I agree with you about Tebow, I don’t think his skill sets fits the NFL as a starting QB. But if I were a GM I would find a role for him.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
8:00 pm
Tampa..
Is any criticism of Tim Tebow allowed? Nobody is disputing he has the “it” that QBs with strong leadership need to have.
But so did Colt McCoy…and Vince Young…and Jason White. Winning (or almost winning) a MNC or a Heisman only means you were most valuable to your team winning at the college level.
Delbert D.
May 1st, 2012
8:06 pm
I think the Jets have some ideas on how to use Tebow. We are not NFL coaches or GMs, so we don’t have the awesome responsibility of making it work. It worked fairly well for Denver last year. Sanchez had better have a really good year, or the Jets will draft another QB to split time with Tebow.
Delbert D.
May 1st, 2012
8:18 pm
The Raiders now have two Heisman trophy winners at QB, Palmer and Leinart.
dry dirt road
May 1st, 2012
9:04 pm
On the first page, Frankly commented about SH getting picked by the Jets. I recall another SH who played at Tech and was drafted by the Jets. Does anybody remember who the player was? Put on your thinking RAT caps if you went to Tech. The person who comes up with the answer wins the Double Jeapordy question. Well, I’m waiting. Coincidetal initials should provide a hint, a veritable link to the coincidental NFL team that drafted two players from Tech. Well, the player was the starting fullback on Coach Carson’s old gold jerseys, white pants and white helmets unis teams. He played in Coach Carson’s pro style I formation offenses. The QB of the Jets then was Joe Namath. Well, the other SH’s name was Steve Harkey, a white guy. I watched him on tv for the Jets as much as I could and SH never hung on with the Jets and made it in the NFL. Steve Harkey played on the ‘71 Tech team and maybe the ‘72 team. Rock Perdoni was on his Tech team, and black QB Eddie McAshan was the QB. I mention Steve Harkey was white just in case anybody wanted to know what race he was, because I’m sure everybody knows Stephen Hill is black. Stephen Hill was a manic-depressive receiver who was manic when he caught passes and depressive when he dropped passes, and he definitely dropped his share of them, which then dropped Tech fans’ “high in the sky apple pie” hopes of all the apple pie good things that long bomb catches and long yardage gains for Tech do toward scoring.
duronimo
May 1st, 2012
10:47 pm
I’m a UGA man but in my opinion Jets got a guy who is going to have a long NFL career. I think they did their homework.
Paul in NH
May 1st, 2012
10:47 pm
Tim Tebow was a great college QB, led UF to an MNC and plenty of wins and was a worthy winner of the Heisman trophy. And as a predictor of NFL success, that is close to meaningless.
Since 1980, there have been 17 QBs who have won the Heisman and the majority (Andre Ware, Ty Detmer, Gino Toretta, Charlie Ward, Danny Wuerfell, Chris Weinke, Eric Crouch, Jason White, Matt Leinert, Troy Smith,) did very little in the NFL.
FL Jacket
May 1st, 2012
11:38 pm
Paul…
Charlie Ward might have been the best QB in the 1990’s…and would have been a #1 overall pick if he was in college today. The fact that no NFL team drafted him and gave him a shot was unfortunate.
Tripleoptionspread
May 2nd, 2012
12:50 am
Please kill the videos and get back to work!!
Stephen Hill - Page 2
May 2nd, 2012
7:13 am
[...] HelluvaMGTmjr Senior Member Join DateAug 2011 Posts2,896 More tid bits: Jets gush about Stephen Hill | Georgia Tech Tannenbaum shared an interesting detail from his interview with Hill regarding his recruitment [...]
dagnabit
May 2nd, 2012
7:19 am
Last night’s braves story is front and center. Congradulations! But, isn’t it time that the Jets stopped gushing over Steven Hill?
OldGold-1964
May 2nd, 2012
7:48 am
Very good stuff. Rather than dancing aroud the issue and trying to defend actions to the NY press, it appears at least on the surface, they are confident in having done their homework during evaluation period. They weren’t caught up in the hype of making a flashy pick, just an adequate one. (And, Mr. Hill certainly upgrades roster “character wise” a few notches above that of his predecessors.)
UGA = Yawn
May 2nd, 2012
7:50 am
ajc.com continues to baffle me. I look in here and I see the same articles shown on this site for days and sometimes weeks. If you can’t find anything about GT to write about – shut down the site. This is a GT page – not a New York Jets page! Write about Hill while he is a GT student and athlete. I wish every GT student the best but I don’t need to continue to read about them after they leave. Pls write something about current GT student-athletes!!!!
Chuck Allison
May 2nd, 2012
9:46 am
Most folks don’t get this much positive publicity when they flunk out of Georgia Tech.
Bored with the AJC
May 2nd, 2012
10:00 am
Wow! 3 days since this was posted and the Jet’s are STILL gushing about Stephen Hill……
FL Jacket
May 2nd, 2012
10:47 am
Hopefully we’ll soon see the story of Paul Johnson and Jon Barry defending GT’s title at the Chick-fil-A coaches golf tournament…
NCDAWG
May 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
He’s going to be a bust, you know why? he played for GT
looks like the vikings are
May 2nd, 2012
11:07 am
gushing about caleb king. lmao. another uga 5 star recruit bites the dust in the game of life.
the rev richt does such a wonderful job at bringing his young men up right.
and before you point the finger at coach johnson…. no body refers to him as the reverend.
maybe rev richt didnt kiss n hug and sing happy bday to caleb enough. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor caleb.
to funny for a loser of a program.
word
May 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
WnE would know about drops…..you should see how often he drops his jar of Vaseline-and he’s caught WAY more than 50 balls
George Stein
May 2nd, 2012
11:11 am
Calvin Johnson says hello, NCDAWG.
GTfan 2012
May 2nd, 2012
12:39 pm
George,
I think NCDAWG’s comment probably qualifies as the all-time stupidest thing ever said on the GT blog, and that’s saying something since we have WnE post here all the time.
Just so we are clear, NCDAWG said Hill will be a bust because he went to GT, EVEN THOUGH the BEST WR in the NFL today also went to GT. I’d say NCDAWG just embarassed himself and UGA fans. Even if he’s right and Hill is a bust, he’s still comes off as an idiot.
DawginLex
May 2nd, 2012
12:43 pm
Dang, i came over here to escape the lunacy on the UGA blogs.
Not much better here………
Was WnE really spouting Jerry rice stats in a discussion about stephen Hill?
Didn’t MVSU run the run and shoot?
Apple, meet orange?
Paul in NH
May 2nd, 2012
1:07 pm
DawginLex – Run the run and shoot? More like invented the run and shoot.
Paul in NH
May 2nd, 2012
1:13 pm
For those too young to remember the MVSU offense.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/denny-dressman/jerry-rices-hall-of-fame-_b_690677.html
GTfan 2012
May 2nd, 2012
4:57 pm
Good read, Paul, thanks for that.
Jacket68
May 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm
Are you on vacation? It’s May 2 and nothing posted for awhile. Meantime Chip and Michael are raving about everything UGA.
kingster
May 2nd, 2012
9:49 pm
Can anyone tell me has GT had anyone sign a undrafted free agent contact with any team yet?
kingster
May 2nd, 2012
10:16 pm
I am strong Tech fan, but I really don’t think kids are like the kids of yesteryear thinking about getting a solid education when they see the kind of money NFL, NBA and Baseball players are making ( I was looking at yahoo this evening and I would have never guessed a kid that went to UGA made more money this pass season(up front money) than anyone else- Charles Johnson for Carolina Panthers 34 Million) Basicly what I am saying most kids are not buying into Coach Johnson’s offense, (I feel that effect kids who play defense, kids talk and communicate), kids visit just to come to the ATL and work out and get a great meal, knowing all the time mostly that they aren’t coming, I hope I’m wrong, I think some kids use Tech as leverage stick, if Alabama, UGA, South Carolina, Clemson, Florida State wanted a kid Tech is high on, they could get him just by having them visit, I hope I’m wrong, but I really feel this way, I was silly enough to think last year that Dalvin Tomlinson (missed spelled) was coming to Tech, Alabama wanted him, Alabama got him(Tech cann’t say it didn’t make a difference), I look at Tech on Rivals and Scout, buckus/Nothing, I feel the AJC feels sorry for my team now, how can you fight someone who cann’t fight back, my nephew is a huge UGA fan in Valdosta, I cann’t say anything when he talks about Tech. Most kids grow up wanting to be a professional sports star, one kid, just one kid from Tech can say this year they had a chance, oh thats not good. Ok, ok I am finish crying.
GTFan
May 3rd, 2012
12:30 am
Hello Ken, are you there? Two more articles from Chip and Michael about UGA and still nothing from Tech’s beat writer. It’s been days since we heard from you.
RTR22
May 3rd, 2012
2:13 pm
Lets bring the facts. Bama had 8 kids drafted and 7 signed free agent deals. Quite frankly I hope any and all future Tiders have healthy and productive careers. However, once they take off the crimson jersey I am only concerned about the next kid carrying on the storied tradition that is ALABAMA FOOTBALL.
BTW, Bama has 7 former players in the NFL Hall of Fame. What say you Jawja? Got 7 lol…….NO
@rtr22
May 3rd, 2012
4:05 pm
No But UGA the only program to have 3 super bowl mvps.
Ghost
May 3rd, 2012
4:06 pm
Whys is a replay of everyone except techs spring game on television? Wonder why no undrafted free agents from Tech?
dagnabit
May 3rd, 2012
5:57 pm
Does the AJC have anyone who covers Ga. Tech? At least as well as the Macon paper!
I wonder....
May 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm
Why does Ghost like to troll the GT blog?
Sanchize
May 3rd, 2012
11:31 pm
Finally a good WR to replace one of these thugs we have!