Hill sole Tech player chosen in draft
The third and final day of the NFL draft transpired without any Georgia Tech selections, leaving wide receiver Stephen Hill the only Yellow Jackets draftee for this year. Hill was picked in the second round by the New York Jets on Friday.
It was the second year in a row that Tech produced one draft pick. In 2011, the Baltimore Ravens took B-back Anthony Allen in the seventh round.
It may be the case that no Tech players will be signed as undrafted free agents, as well. Just before 9 p.m., defensive end Jason Peters, defensive tackle Logan Walls and A-back Roddy Jones had not been contacted by any NFL teams about signing as undrafted free agents. The agent for A-back Embry Peeples said he had not have a deal, either. Three other hopefuls, linebacker Steven Sylvester, wide receiver Tyler Melton and safety Rashaad Reid, could not be reached.
SI.com draft expert Tony Pauline said prior to the draft that Jones, Peters and Sylvester were the three likeliest Tech players to get picked up.
They might take hope from former teammate Kevin Cone. The former Tech wide receiver went unsigned after the 2011 draft until three days prior to the opening of the Falcons training camp. Cone made the practice squad and then the active roster late in the season.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech beat
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Tech89
April 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
First?
Dawg48
April 28th, 2012
9:55 pm
2nd!
Dawg48
April 28th, 2012
9:55 pm
Nothing wrong with silver!
Mateo
April 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
What every Bulldawg fan says!
Dawg48
April 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
Mateo
April 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
What every Bulldawg fan says!
Not to a Tech fan in football buddy!
Mama Says
April 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
King arrested in Minnesoooota.
And the Dawg tradition continues.
P. Bull Terrier
April 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
I’m not sure which is worse Mama Says. Even Georgia’s rejects, like King, are good enough for the NFL to take a chance on them. Tech players are so unloved lately, the police wouldn’t even bother to arrest them.
Seriously though, the lack of respect for Tech players by the NFL can’t be good for recruiting. Even a lot of us Georgia fans want to see Tech do a better job in recruiting, if for no other reason than to keep a few players who don’t go to Georgia from ending up at Auburn, South Carolina, Vandy, etc.
GT GRAD
April 28th, 2012
11:02 pm
I think the Atlanta Falcons should sign Roddy Jones…………………..he is already better than Nance and Smith. He is a high character person with solid skills as a running back and he catches the ball well on pass routes. I would imagine he would also be very effective on special teams.
Personally, I would rather have Roddy Jones running the ball than Turner; at least Roddy has a chance to break one for a long TD when the opportunity presents itself (he has pretty good speed and fresh legs)!!
Lack of respect?
April 28th, 2012
11:09 pm
“Seriously though, the lack of respect for Tech players by the NFL can’t be good for recruiting.”
Ummm…heard of Calvin Johnson? The best receiver in the NFL atm? 8 year contract worth 130 million?
Yah that sure sounds like a lack of respect to me as well…mhmmm
/sarcasm
Try again or move on idiot.
GTBob
April 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Seriously though, the lack of respect for Tech players by the NFL can’t be good for recruiting.
Of all of Tech’s recruiting problems, NFL potential isn’t really one of them.
Dawg48
April 28th, 2012
11:14 pm
Yes GT put a great WR in the NFL, I don’t think he was discrediting CJ just saying more of the lack of number of players being drafted not the quality of the ones that were.
Outside Observer
April 29th, 2012
12:17 am
I also think it was aimed more towards the lack of quality players since Paul Johnson has started recruiting. Anthony Allen was a transfer, so I don’t know if you can really count him as a CPJ recruit. With Steven Hill, that makes one Paul Johnson recruit drafted in two years. Kevin Cone was also a transfer, who went undrafted, but was signed to the Falcons 53 man roster.
The Dude
April 29th, 2012
12:27 am
This is CPJ’s 5th season at GT. So any players he recruited that redshirted would be seniors this year… for those who can count. Aside from isolated incidences, Tech hasn’t consistently produced non-senior draftees. While a single player being drafted two years in a row seems like few, the respect factor comes into play with the number of non-drafted free agents from GT that get signed. There are still plenty of guys in the NFL from Tech, and they’re not all old. Open up that magnifying glass a bit.
FL Jacket
April 29th, 2012
12:34 am
Interesting…
Not surprised to see the professional anonymous haters discredit CPJ. His only 2 recruiting classes eligible for the NFL Draft netted 1 high 2nd round pick. The quality of the next few classes were significantly better than the first 2 classes (as is the case with the vast majority of coaches)…so predict all you want that he can’t recruit good players…he’ll be putting more player’s in the league.
WnE
April 29th, 2012
12:39 am
re:
FL Jacket
April 29th, 2012
12:34 am
Interesting…
Not surprised to see the professional anonymous haters discredit CPJ. His only 2 recruiting classes eligible for the NFL Draft netted 1 high 2nd round pick. The quality of the next few classes were significantly better than the first 2 classes (as is the case with the vast majority of coaches)…so predict all you want that he can’t recruit good players…he’ll be putting more player’s in the league.
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Please list all the future GT NFL guys that are “locks” to be NFL draftees?
WnE
April 29th, 2012
12:40 am
As good as Orwin Smith is, he’s tweener and isn’t a LOCK to get drafted by the NFL.
GT fan
April 29th, 2012
12:51 am
Per ESPN’s Draft Tracker (Schools tab) UCLA had ZERO players drafted out of 13 listed (GT had 1 drafted of 4 listed).
USC had just 3 of their 11 listed players get drafted. I guess UCLA should shut down their football program, and USC should reevaluate theirs, eh UGA fans?
Utah State had 60% of their 5 listed players get drafted. Maybe they should be playing in the SEC?
Something tells me though, that UCLA & USC will still be viewed as FAR SUPERIOR programs than Utah State. But San Diego State (4 of 10 drafted), UCLA & USC got work to do to reach the Aztecs’ level!
GIVE ME A BREAK
April 29th, 2012
12:55 am
King will tell you that being in the NFL doesn’t equate to success.
GT fan
April 29th, 2012
12:59 am
WnE …
Auburn only had 1 of their 7, and Tenn only had 1 of their 6 listed players get drafted. Think you need to tell us all how bad they’re recruiting is too. Time for the Tigers & Vols to join the ACC. Their programs are terrible!
FL Jacket
April 29th, 2012
1:09 am
“Please list all the future GT NFL guys that are “locks” to be NFL draftees?”
WnE…just for you I’ll list the Tech players in order of who’ll likely get drafted out of the next group of Seniors and Juniors…
Omoregie Uzzi
Jeremiah Attaochu
Louis Young
Rod Sweeting
Will Jackson
T.J. Barnes (will likely depend on his Senior year)
I could predict the younger guys as well, but there’s too much uncertainty with Freshman and Sophmores.
P. Bull Terrier
April 29th, 2012
1:47 am
Tech has only one player drafted this year and only one recruit committed for next year and the guy calling himself “Lack of respect?” thinks that the fact that Calvin Johnson played for Tech a few years ago is evidence to dispute my observation that “the lack of respect for Tech players by the NFL can’t be good for recruiting.”
Seriously? And you want to call me an idiot?
Calvin Johnson being a great WR didn’t help Jones, Peters and Sylvester get drafted. Calvin Johnson signing a 130 million dollar contract hasn’t resulted in a bunch of recruits lining up to commit to Tech next year either.
The simple fact is that the NFL looked at Tech’s players for two years in a row and was only willing to risk a draft pick on one each year. You can debate the reason for the lack of NFL picks all you want, but it is obvious that playing for Tech isn’t doing much to help players get drafted lately. It is possible that the lack of NFL draft picks isn’t doing anything to hurt Tech’s recruiting, but I can’t imagine it is doing anything to help it either.
Try again or move on idiot.
Steve Spurrier
April 29th, 2012
2:00 am
Caleb King looks like Tracy Morgan?
WnE
April 29th, 2012
2:28 am
re:
FL Jacket
April 29th, 2012
1:09 am
“Please list all the future GT NFL guys that are “locks” to be NFL draftees?”
WnE…just for you I’ll list the Tech players in order of who’ll likely get drafted out of the next group of Seniors and Juniors…
Omoregie Uzzi
Jeremiah Attaochu
Louis Young
Rod Sweeting
Will Jackson
T.J. Barnes (will likely depend on his Senior year)
I could predict the younger guys as well, but there’s too much uncertainty with Freshman and Sophmores.
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I ask you for guys that are LOCKS to get drafted and you come back with guys that are likely to get drafted.
But I’ll play along anyway.
Uzzi is an injury-prone under sized OG (by NFL stds.) with very little on-film proof that he is a good pass blocker, you can thank CPJ’s system for that BTW. IMO he is a 6th round draft pick at best, more likely a 7th round draft pick or FA camp invitee.
There are too many guys that are bigger & more athletic than Uzzi that will get drafted as an OG in the 4th thru 7th rounds.
Will Jackson has NO SHOT to be an NFL draft pick next April, you sound almost delusional to mention his name as an NFL draftee, he doesn’t have the SIZE nor the raw athleticism to justify such a pick and as a Triple-OPtion OL he won’t have the on-film proof that he can pass-block to make an NFL GM draft him rather than give him a FA camp invitation.
GT fans love to think that Attachou is some can’t miss NFL type guy ala Jarvis Jones (OLB) up at UGA, but the truth is, is that he isn’t as athletic as the GT fanbase thinks he is, he’s about 4.7 guy at 235-240lbs.; he’ll have to have a monster year or 2 years to even get drafted in the 4th round, plus his game has flaws that NFL GMs can see on film. With Attachou’s size & speed he’ll have to technically perfect as a LB to get into the Top-3 rounds, if not it is a crapshoot as to how late he’ll get drafted.
Don’t believe me, look at all the guys from this past weekend that have the same or better athleticism as Attachou that did NOT get drafted at LB!
Sweeting & young are likely to get drafted because they play DB and DBs have great versatility for STs, etc. Plus, DBs are needed with more NFL teams going with spread looks that require nickel & dime packages.
Also with small skill guys, they can go to a Combine prep Guru and inflate their draft status more than linemen can, there’s always a sucker GM that will fall for measurables in a shorts & t-shirts rather than going by game film, so that bodes well for skill guys like the 2 DBs you listed.
Young will be gone by the 3rd round since he’s a “big corner” and Sweeting will go anywhere after the 5th round.
Barnes has what might be the worst 3-years of game-film in recent CFB history, he looks horrible on game-film and has NOT been in decent shape in his FOUR YEARS OUT OF HS.
Maybe a GM will take a flyer on his size alone, but Barnes isn’t likely to get drafted at all, maybe a FA camp invite at best.
That’s a pretty paltry list you provided and just shows how crappy CPJ’s Recruiting has been in recent years.
You have to go back to the Bill Curry era to find GT teams with this little talent on them, thanks a lot Coach PJ.
Now you have my opinions!
macrotech
April 29th, 2012
3:01 am
WnE, you asked for a list of “locks” and you got one. You, THEN chewed it up and tossed a few of the names out as rubbish. However, you agreed on a couple of the players because of their positions….I’ve always believed that you are a pissy and bitter old coot frustrated at life; I’m NOW convinced of it! Thank you for the mini-novel!!! Chew on a Midol and suck down some Geritol….you need to embrace some sunshine!
Buddy Landel
April 29th, 2012
6:50 am
Worst possible place for Stephen Hill to go: a receiver with questionable hands, that sometimes doubts himself, going to a team without a decent throwing QB, in the biggest stage in the world NEW YORK, with those fans, THAT coach. Add to that his comments accepting comparisons to Calvin Johnson, and adding Jerry Rice to those comments. This is the perfect storm for epic failure.
hiveredtech
April 29th, 2012
6:59 am
Studies have proven time and again that even at UGA you stand less than a 10% chance of making an NFL roster.
If you are one of the few that make a typical NFL roster….you play an average of 3.2 seasons…the majority of which are just at or above the league $ minimum set by the CBA.
All being said, the average GT graduate will earn more than double in $$$ than the average player in the NFL. At least by graduating from GT you can choose whether you want to become a ton of $$$ or play 3.2 years in the NFL first.
HighTech
April 29th, 2012
7:09 am
Steve Spurrier
April 29th, 2012
2:00 am
Caleb King looks like Tracy Morgan?
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Brian Fellow
Big Ol Stinger
April 29th, 2012
7:21 am
You can take the dwag out of UGA (and put him in Minnesota), but you can’t take the UGA out of the dwag.
Jacket Man
April 29th, 2012
7:46 am
Ending up with the Jets is the best place in the world for Stephen Hill to be drafted…he’s already pegged as a starter from day one, and comes in with expectations of not being the primary receiver on a team that wants to run first, and is known for its great defense. All Stephen has to do is work hard on every play, and catch the balls that are thrown to him. If Stephen does this, he’ll end up being the go-to guy in virtually every situation.
gt4ever
April 29th, 2012
8:03 am
@FL Jacket,
This is just one indicator that supports the dismal recruiting of CPJ… Yes, time will tell, but it doesn’t look good for the home team… The other indicator is that we can’t beat a good team… This year could be a descent year if, and it’s a big IF…. the defense comes around…. There is really NO reason to expect the defense to be any better, but I’m hoping they pull through… Here is to mediocre football, another season of pitch it right, left or run it up the middle…. Oh, yeah throw it 3 times in a row as the 4rth quarter clock winds down….
GTJohn
April 29th, 2012
8:03 am
Sorry to hear about King but it was always in the cards. The kid has had problems since middle school and never should have been at any college, much less UGA. He was just trouble and because of football, got passed along in the system we call education.
Big Ol Stinger
April 29th, 2012
8:29 am
@gt4ever,
You could always drive on out to Athens and pull for the Caleb Kings of the world. I suspect you already do though.
BigTimeTECHFan
April 29th, 2012
8:33 am
Great job Hill, from 99th rated receiver to 2nd round pick in NFL. keep up the good work.
You will be seeing L Young, Sweeting, J Thomas covering you in the NFL soon.
FL Jacket
April 29th, 2012
8:45 am
WnE must have a film vault at home…
1) If Omoregie Uzzi can achieve all-ACC and 2nd team all-American at 6′3″ 300 over the “larger and more athletic” OG who got drafted late…I assure you it’s not because he can’t play.
2) Will Jackson was the #8 OG in the 2009 class and will probably play out his last 2 years of eligibility. He’ll have plenty of game film and at 6′4″ 300 is plenty big enough. You can’t teach his quickness at his size.
3) Louis Young is a big physical CB who likes to run up and hit…he’s most certainly a draft pick.
4) Rod Sweeting is bigger and more physical than Louis Young…and could play Safety at the next level.
5) T.J. Barnes is a prototypical sized 3-4 DT, who’s main issue is his motor and conditioning. He just has to prove he can have both and he’ll be drafted.
6) Jeremiah Attaochu…for someone who says game film will decide the fate of certain guys…but then you say in essence…”don’t get fooled by Attaochu’s game film”. Huh? He’s a pass rush threat, is aggressive against the run, and is big enough to play in the NFL.
5150 UOAD
April 29th, 2012
8:57 am
WnE
Man Up
Show Up
or
Shut Up
Jim 70
April 29th, 2012
9:06 am
Are the six players mentioned going to graduate? Hopefully so.
I would be willing to bet that ten years after their senior year, tech players are much more successful than uga players. Having players make the NFL is good, but having the rest get good jobs in definitely more important.
Jim 70
April 29th, 2012
9:08 am
“is definitely more important”. Don’t like typing on an iPad!
5150 UOAD
April 29th, 2012
9:16 am
Jim 70 you don’t like typing on an iPad try posting using Furman Bisher’s Typewriter.
Topp Dogg
April 29th, 2012
9:41 am
One player from GT is equal to one player from GSU, any questions?
Techster
April 29th, 2012
9:43 am
There is a reason high school prospects are given stars. According to people qualified to rate talent, the higher the rating, the better the player’s potential at the next level. They rate size, speed, strength, quickness, you name it. So, it only makes sense that the better the talent entering college, the more likely those players will move on the the next level as well, assuming good instruction and nutrition and coaching are provided. All Tech coaches need to do is recruit more capable talent out of high school (can you say 4-star and 5-star?) and the rest will take care of itself.
Topp Dogg
April 29th, 2012
9:46 am
Roddy Jones couldnt carry Turners jock strap not even today.
HighTech
April 29th, 2012
9:49 am
Topp Dogg
April 29th, 2012
9:41 am
One player from GT is equal to one player from GSU, any questions?
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Yes. What are you talking about? Are you saying because they run similar offenses, one player from GT is equal to one player from Georgia Southern?
Or, are you saying because GT had one player drafted and Georgia State had one player drafted they are equal? Is a 2nd round pick equal to a 6th round pick? Is so, then maybe you are right.
BLT
April 29th, 2012
9:49 am
And Topp Dogg knows all about jock straps!
Experienced One
April 29th, 2012
9:57 am
A better question to consider: With UGA’s repeated success with having players drafted, why does this caliber talent have a greater success rate on the field???
hey WnE dont you
April 29th, 2012
10:16 am
have some friesto make or toilets to clean?
we all know that you have man love for paul and vad. have you decided which one you want for your bbf yet?
far as the jackets go… we were the 2nd youngest team in the entire ncaa. for you dawgs and Weenie who cant comprehend numbers….. a young team wont have many seniors to draft.
unlike uga most of our players have the option to finish college unlike players like caleb dumb dumb king.
hey weenie why dont you stalk caleb. i am sure he would reciprocate.
er ah Topp Dogg
April 29th, 2012
10:19 am
there is only on e p in top and only one g in dog. thought you should know!
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April 29th, 2012
10:49 am
[...] Hill sole Tech player chosen in draft The third and final day of the NFL draft transpired without any Georgia Tech selections, leaving wide receiver Stephen Hill the only Yellow Jackets draftee for this year. Hill was picked in the second round by the New York Jets on Friday. Read more on Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) [...]
Major Minor
April 29th, 2012
10:56 am
Because of the DIFFERENT type of player that Tech recruits for offense, I don’t see them having very many drafted in the near future…..maybe in another year the defense will produce a few DB’s and a LB or 2 but not too much along the line
Glass houses
April 29th, 2012
11:48 am
Jarvaris Crittenton , murderer and Didn’t a tech Player just recently get into a fight at a fraternity house?
@experienced one
April 29th, 2012
11:54 am
UGA has 2nd most wins in SEC over past 11 years, 9 top 25 finishes , 6 top ten finishes, 5 SEC east titles, 2 SEC titles, 3 BCS bowl appearances, 2 bcs bowl wins, finished in top 5, 3 times,would you like to compare those number to what tech has achieved in the past 45 years. Tech would be best served trying to compare its program to one other than Georgia.
atlxman
April 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
this years draft didnt do coach pj and ga techs football team any favors with the top high school recruits. or last years either. tech will be lucky to land any true div 1a player in their class this year on offense or years to come with coach pj track record…pleas ga tech fans, call for D rad to give an extension to PJ now before pj leaves to coach at a big time high school in texas…
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
April 29th, 2012
1:23 pm
love how gt fans use calvin johnson as their lone example for recruits. if memory serves, that was a gailey recruit, not cpj. and yes, not having any players w/ the exception of hill enter the nfl draft will have some sort of impact on recruiting. kids these days look at things like that and yes, an education too. but if you’re a talented athlete with scholarship offers on the table, you would look at nfl draft & success.
Alabama Jacket
April 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
Another example of how stupid UGA fans are! You guys are bragging about how many NFL quality players UGA puts out, and how few GT puts out. However, in the last “45 years”, we have as many National Titles as the bulldogs, and have matched up pretty well against the mighty dawgs since CPJ took over!
So, keep bragging morons! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GT fan
April 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
atlxman
April 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
this years draft didnt do coach pj and ga techs football team any favors with the top high school recruits. or last years either. tech will be lucky to land any true div 1a player in their class this year on offense or years to come …..
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I guess you’re saying the same thing to Auburn & Tenn fans too then, xman. Being that both of those schools only had 1 draft pick as well. And what would you say to UCLA, who had ZERO players get drafted.
LSU had 5 players drafted, Oregon 4, Ohio St 4, USC 3, Michigan 3, Texas 3, Florida 2. Meanwhile The CAL Bears had 6 players drafted.
There isn’t a knowledgeable sports fan alive that would say CAL is a better program than any of those schools. But, according to you, GT is in trouble b/c they only had 1 player drafted?
There’s dumb, then there’s Atlxman.
hey glass house
April 29th, 2012
2:20 pm
nice post. too bad you dont have a clue on the difference between uga and gt wrt this issue.
let us start off by agreeing that ALL schools have dimwits that get in trouble. gt is no exception and we realize this. however….
lets look at the numbers for a second eh?
just about each year under richt uga is in contention for the fulmer cup. i think uga has won it outright at least twice since its inception and is annually in contention.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/9/1/1663448/the-fulmer-cup-season-closes-and
Your 2010 Fulmer Cup Champion is the University of Georgia. Congratulations on your titanic accomplishments in off-the-field festivities, sirs, and for bringing another championship trophy to the SEC.
uga didnt win in 2011 but did finish in a respectable tie for 10th. so far in 2012 they are in contention yet again!
anybody with a lick of sense would realize it is all about the numbers except for maybe a dumb dawg,
i gave some proof now the my balls are in your court. lets compare gt an uga fb to fb.
i guarantee that over the last 10 years you would be hard pressed to come up more than gt fb players who have either strayed from the law or the school. on the other hand 10 seems to be the norm year in an year out for uga.
if all you have is opinion than you dont have much do you!
George Stein
April 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
I’m pretty sure I could have written WnE’s post for him. However, since I’m here, when did Uzzi become injury-prone? Look, if you require proof that WnE is talking out of his backside, his comments about Attaochu having flaws ON FILM is is your proof. He loves to think he’s some kind of expert.
I do feel badly for him, though, because he apparently has nothing better to do at 2:30 AM than to troll.
I thought atlxman was certain Hill wouldn’t get drafted until the third round. Wonder what happened to that?
WnE
April 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
re:
hiveredtech
April 29th, 2012
6:59 am
Studies have proven time and again that even at UGA you stand less than a 10% chance of making an NFL roster.
If you are one of the few that make a typical NFL roster….you play an average of 3.2 seasons…the majority of which are just at or above the league $ minimum set by the CBA.
All being said, the average GT graduate will earn more than double in $$$ than the average player in the NFL. At least by graduating from GT you can choose whether you want to become a ton of $$$ or play 3.2 years in the NFL first.
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If this is GT’s best “Recruiting Spiel”, then GT under CPJ will always be crappy Recruiters.
In the Recruiting game that GT has top compete in, all the BCS level Recruits have “full rides” at a number of Colleges.
For Recruits with SAT scores of 950 to 1050 (the actual range for most of GT’s FB Recruits), then at that Range their outlook on ACADEMICS is, ” a Business Admin Degree from GT is not much different than a Business Admin Degree from UGA, UF, or any other Big-time Flagship State Univ.”
If their outlook on Academics was much different than what I wrote above then we’ll end up losing them to ND or Stanford or Northwestern anyway.
Folks (i.e. TEENAGERS) with SATs of 950 to 1050 aren’t looking at that scenario that you originally posted, that scenario is what goes on IN YOUR MIND, the mind of a middle-aged suburban GT ALUM.
If your Recruiting strategy is based on “threatening failure” to teenagers at a point where they are inclined to dream their “biggest dreams”, then you won’t be very successful at Recruiting, and GT has not been very successful at Recruiting under CPJ.
Telling TEENAGERS, “if you don’t this fancy GT degree you’ll fail in LIFE because the NFL is a stupid foolish dream that won’t last very long” is horrible way to Recruit.
Imagine if CEOs & Brain Surgeons were told the same thing as they were about to embark on their Academic Careers, not many of them would want to go to your school either.
The same thing that GT uses to Recruit smart Engr. Students, then use that same strategy to Recruit Athletes, by telling them that at GT their DREAMS can come true.
Just one man’s my opinion.
GTBob
April 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
tech will be lucky to land any true div 1a player in their class this year on offense
We already have a commitment from a RB who had several offers from BCS schools. Does he not count?
BLT
April 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
“Just one man’s my opinion.” Whatever you say WnE…
GTBob
April 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
If this is GT’s best “Recruiting Spiel”, then GT under CPJ will always be crappy Recruiters.
GT is never going to recruit well under any coach, so I have a feeling you are going to hate every coach that ever comes here.
HighTech
April 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Georgia Tech Hill sole Tech player chosen in draft
9:27 pm April 28, 2012, by Ken Sugiura
The third and final day of the NFL draft transpired without any Georgia Tech selections, leaving wide receiver Stephen Hill the only Yellow Jackets draftee for this year. Hill was picked in the second round by the New York Jets on Friday.
It was the second year in a row that Tech produced one draft pick. In 2011, the Baltimore Ravens took B-back Anthony Allen in the seventh round.
It may be the case that no Tech players will be signed as undrafted free agents, as well. Just before 9 p.m., defensive end Jason Peters, defensive tackle Logan Walls and A-back Roddy Jones had not been contacted by any NFL teams about signing as undrafted free agents. The agent for A-back Embry Peeples said he had not have a deal, either. Three other hopefuls, linebacker Steven Sylvester, wide receiver Tyler Melton and safety Rashaad Reid, could not be reached.
SI.com draft expert Tony Pauline said prior to the draft that Jones, Peters and Sylvester were the three likeliest Tech players to get picked up.
They might take hope from former teammate Kevin Cone. The former Tech wide receiver went unsigned after the 2011 draft until three days prior to the opening of the Falcons training camp. Cone made the practice squad and then the active roster late in the season.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech beat
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April 29th, 2012
11:54 am
UGA has 2nd most wins in SEC over past 11 years, 9 top 25 finishes , 6 top ten finishes, 5 SEC east titles, 2 SEC titles, 3 BCS bowl appearances, 2 bcs bowl wins, finished in top 5, 3 times,would you like to compare those number to what tech has achieved in the past 45 years. Tech would be best served trying to compare its program to one other than Georgia.
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April 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
this years draft didnt do coach pj and ga techs football team any favors with the top high school recruits. or last years either. tech will be lucky to land any true div 1a player in their class this year on offense or years to come with coach pj track record…pleas ga tech fans, call for D rad to give an extension to PJ now before pj leaves to coach at a big time high school in texas…
LinkReport this comment.Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
April 29th, 2012
1:23 pm
love how gt fans use calvin johnson as their lone example for recruits. if memory serves, that was a gailey recruit, not cpj. and yes, not having any players w/ the exception of hill enter the nfl draft will have some sort of impact on recruiting. kids these days look at things like that and yes, an education too. but if you’re a talented athlete with scholarship offers on the table, you would look at nfl draft & success.
LinkReport this comment.Alabama Jacket
April 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
Another example of how stupid UGA fans are! You guys are bragging about how many NFL quality players UGA puts out, and how few GT puts out. However, in the last “45 years”, we have as many National Titles as the bulldogs, and have matched up pretty well against the mighty dawgs since CPJ took over!
So, keep bragging morons! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LinkReport this comment.GT fan
April 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
atlxman
April 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
this years draft didnt do coach pj and ga techs football team any favors with the top high school recruits. or last years either. tech will be lucky to land any true div 1a player in their class this year on offense or years to come …..
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I guess you’re saying the same thing to Auburn & Tenn fans too then, xman. Being that both of those schools only had 1 draft pick as well. And what would you say to UCLA, who had ZERO players get drafted.
LSU had 5 players drafted, Oregon 4, Ohio St 4, USC 3, Michigan 3, Texas 3, Florida 2. Meanwhile The CAL Bears had 6 players drafted.
There isn’t a knowledgeable sports fan alive that would say CAL is a better program than any of those schools. But, according to you, GT is in trouble b/c they only had 1 player drafted?
There’s dumb, then there’s Atlxman.
LinkReport this comment.hey glass house
April 29th, 2012
2:20 pm
nice post. too bad you dont have a clue on the difference between uga and gt wrt this issue.
let us start off by agreeing that ALL schools have dimwits that get in trouble. gt is no exception and we realize this. however….
lets look at the numbers for a second eh?
just about each year under richt uga is in contention for the fulmer cup. i think uga has won it outright at least twice since its inception and is annually in contention.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/9/1/1663448/the-fulmer-cup-season-closes-and
Your 2010 Fulmer Cup Champion is the University of Georgia. Congratulations on your titanic accomplishments in off-the-field festivities, sirs, and for bringing another championship trophy to the SEC.
uga didnt win in 2011 but did finish in a respectable tie for 10th. so far in 2012 they are in contention yet again!
anybody with a lick of sense would realize it is all about the numbers except for maybe a dumb dawg,
i gave some proof now the my balls are in your court. lets compare gt an uga fb to fb.
i guarantee that over the last 10 years you would be hard pressed to come up more than gt fb players who have either strayed from the law or the school. on the other hand 10 seems to be the norm year in an year out for uga.
if all you have is opinion than you dont have much do you!
LinkReport this comment.George Stein
April 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
I’m pretty sure I could have written WnE’s post for him. However, since I’m here, when did Uzzi become injury-prone? Look, if you require proof that WnE is talking out of his backside, his comments about Attaochu having flaws ON FILM is is your proof. He loves to think he’s some kind of expert.
I do feel badly for him, though, because he apparently has nothing better to do at 2:30 AM than to troll.
I thought atlxman was certain Hill wouldn’t get drafted until the third round. Wonder what happened to that?
LinkReport this comment.WnE
April 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
For Recruits with SAT scores of 950 to 1050 (the actual range for most of GT’s FB Recruits), then at that Range their outlook on ACADEMICS is, ” a Business Admin Degree from GT is not much different than a Business Admin Degree from UGA, UF, or any other Big-time Flagship State Univ.”
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Will they have to “game the system” as a Business Administration major at one of those other schools?
George Stein
April 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
So, we should lie when we recruit, WnE? Am I understanding this correctly?
WnE
April 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
At least I’m honest High Tech!
Yeah, I admitted to using a couple of my FREE ELECTIVES in College to pad my GPA and make sure I kept my scholarship in place.
If you’re going to take cheap shots at me for that, then you’re going to have to criticize over 90% of the people that graduate from College.
Very FEW college students use their FREE ELECTIVES to take the most difficult classes they can find.
Some people lie to themselves and say “I was using my free electives to expand myself intellectually”, and others like me tell the truth and admit that I padded my GPA a little and “gamed the system”.
BTW, I am willing to bet you did the same thing, since there were many Engineering Majors sitting right next to me in those same Free Electives that I took.
WnE
April 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
re:
George Stein
April 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
So, we should lie when we recruit, WnE? Am I understanding this correctly?
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I never said anything about LYING!
I did say let them know that whatever dreams they have can be achieved at GT, to focus on the positive and not the negative.
There’s no need to even mention how short the avg. NFL career is, or the long odds to getting drafted in the NFL are.
What good does that do GT?
Since your initial dream is a bad one then you’ll want to have this fancy GT education to fall back on, is that how you think we should approach Recruits that HAVE MANY OPTIONS placed in front of them?
This is why we usually end up beating out Furman, Elon and MTSU for Recruits.
Dawg48
April 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
WnE, I feel sorry for you. I truly do.
HighTech
April 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
If copy and paste was a major, I would need some “free electives”. Wow. How did that happen?
George Stein
April 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
I think being candid with them and telling them that the overwhelming majority of players never play a down in the NFL and that a degree from Tech is valuable is a solid recruiting pitch.
WnE
April 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
re:
Dawg48
April 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
WnE, I feel sorry for you. I truly do.
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What did I write this time?
Whatever it is, please prove that it is wrong?
Maybe you should feel sorry for all my thin-skinned critics that don’t seem to know a lot about CFB, or don’t want to learn anything about CFB.
They act as if CPJ is some sort of CFB god, when the last 2 years prove that he is very mediocre as a HC.
George Stein
April 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
“BTW, I am willing to bet you did the same thing, since there were many Engineering Majors sitting right next to me in those same Free Electives that I took.”
An appeal to personal experience. Certainly no fallacy there!
George Stein
April 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
“Whatever it is, please prove that it is wrong?”
Almost nothing you say can be proven right or wrong because it’s completely made up.
Dawg48
April 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
WnE, not anything you said. It’s because you take so much crap from EVERYONE and keep coming back. At least your persistent.
GTBob
April 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
Maybe you should feel sorry for all my thin-skinned critics that don’t seem to know a lot about CFB, or don’t want to learn anything about CFB.
Apparently, nobody on earth knows anything about college football except WnE. Not even UGA grad and College Football columnist Tony Barnhart. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/18826424/johnson-quietly-carving-out-legacy-in-shadow-of-georgia-tech-legends.
GTfan2012
April 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
I am embarassed by WnE’s post about the Business School at GT. If he is truly a GT grad as he claims, then he doesn’t even know the value of the degree he has. First, I can personally attest to the doors that my BS in Management from GT has opened. I graduated GT in 2000, and by 2005 I was making a six figure income. At every point where I got a raise, promotion, or new opportunity, my GT degree was cited as a contributing factor. Which brings me to my second point. None of the schools that WnE compared GT to have a BS of Management (or Business). The Bachelor of Science in Management is a BETTER, more comprehensive degree than the Bachelor of Business Admin offered by UGA and UF. WnE is CLUELESS!
HighTech
April 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
Great post GTfan2012! WnE’s hatred and jealousy may stem from his not being as successful as you.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
I guess it is immaterial that so many other schools in the country (BIG football factories at that) had just a couple more, some less, NFL draftees than Tech. All those draftees that UGA had this weekend, and what do the dwags have to show for it? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, other than beating Tech, the past 3 years, which they CLAIM to be irrelevant.
Paul in NH
April 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
WnE
April 29th, 2012
2:28 am
….plus his game has flaws that NFL GMs can see on film.
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Wow – NFL GMs will have to look at film to see the flaws in Attaochu’s game that WnE can see. Who knew that WnE was actually Mel Kiper?
Pete
April 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
I’m hopeful this will at least discourage any Tech junior that is thinking of leaving early.
Delbert D.
April 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
Boise State had four selected by my count. No 4 and 5-star divas needed out there.
CPJ's fupa...
April 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
April 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
I guess it is immaterial that so many other schools in the country (BIG football factories at that) had just a couple more, some less, NFL draftees than Tech. All those draftees that UGA had this weekend, and what do the dwags have to show for it? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, other than beating Tech, the past 3 years, which they CLAIM to be irrelevant.
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10 – 1………….
Supersize that order, mutt
April 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
@ CPJ’s fupa… Under CPJ, 1 – 3. You mutts always claim that Tech lives in the past. Well, you just prove that you mutts do the same thing. And you also proved my point that you CLAIM Tech is irrelevant, and yet you still boast about beating us. Could that be because we are the only quality team you can beat on a regular basis? Yeah, we’re really irrelevant to you, right? Sounds more like an obsession to me.
sports
April 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
and that pick was highly questionable!
kerryb
April 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Georgia State had as many players drafted as Tech. HAHAHAHAHAHaHaHaHaHaHa
Preston
April 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
What did you expect?
FL Jacket
April 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
Haha…2nd youngest team in FBS last year and people are running their mouths about not getting more players drafted. Common sense has left the building.
HJ
April 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
No surprise with this. I mean it’s a high school offense that always loses to good teams.
bdub
April 29th, 2012
11:56 pm
The last two years have been down years in regards to the draft for tech. On the other hand, there were 2 yrs in the 00s in which 0 tech players were drafted and 1 year in which tony hollings was drafted in the supplemental draft and he was the only drafted player. CPJ has been using the redshirt method as much as he can the past few years to build up the roster after it was hurt by his hiring and the ncaa restrictions, which may partially explain the situation. And we’re still seeing only a small class in 2013 due to this. 2014 will see a larger class, I would assume. I haven’t looked at the numbers. CPJ up to this point has out recruited Chan(according to rivals, etc) in all but one year, if I am not mistaken. This includes the 2008 class which was shaping up to be really good for Chan but lost a lot of players after CPJ was hired(and was the biggest reason to not fire Chan). The 2013 class will be the same year in CPJ’s tenure as the 2007 class was in Chan’s tenure. I would expect recruiting to take an uptick under CPJ in 2013 or 2014 or even 2015. Of course, if the signing class is only 15 players, it won’t beat Chan’s 2007 or his possible 2008 since the total numbers won’t be as high, unless of course, CPJ can get all 4 star players, but that’s not expected at GT. I am a proponent of waiting 6, 7, or 8 years to find out what a coach can do at GT(not a giant state school powerhouse fb program), especially if they are fielding .500 or better teams. This is the Beamer model. At this point, CPJ gets at least 2 more years, and in my book, 3 more years, since he has outperformed Chan on the field and in recruiting to this point. I actually would have been ok with 1 or even 2 more years of Chan to find out what he would have done with that 2007 and 2008 class. Again, this is the Beamer method. At GT, you have to give the coach time to get into recruiting and get his system established. One can say that CPJ has only won with Chan’s players, but Chan’s players were not triple option players when they were recruited, so why didn’t Chan do so well with O’Leary’s players when he came on? Assuming O’Leary recruited as “well” as Chan. Yes, Godsey had left and there were no proven QB’s when Chan came on, but Nesbitt was far from a triple option qb when CPJ came on, and behind Nesbitt was true frosh Jaybo, who was clearly not a D-1 QB physically, and that was it. I go back to the Beamer model, and what CPJ has accomplished so far should give him at least 2 more years(which would match Chan’s tenure, and CPJ’s tenure at Navy), and in my opinion, he gets 3 or even 4 more years at a minimum. Quite frankly, who is GT going to hire that will be better than CPJ?
Top Row Dawg
April 30th, 2012
12:16 am
Wow……….. 1drafted for 7 and no free agents vs. 7 drafted for 10 with an 8th free agent (Butler).
So…………. you have a 7% chance to make the NFL at Tech or an 80% chance to make the NFL at Georgia?
Top Row Dawg
April 30th, 2012
12:25 am
LoL 10% vs. 80%. That’s my UGA education.
Top Row Dawg
April 30th, 2012
12:33 am
Dang it 14.28 % vs. 80% Ya’ll are twice as good as originally thought.
1 4 GT
April 30th, 2012
1:23 am
Top Row Dwag—-that sho is some twisted up rithmitic you used thar. How bout yew taik that thar twisted up logic of yores and that wunderful UGeorgie edumakashun and titch me how yew got them thar answers from outn yore haid. I cain’t do how folow yore thnikin. Boy, them thar perfesers over yon way in thet thar Athins town at thet thar colige shore did maik yew smart.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 30th, 2012
1:45 am
Per ESPN’s Draft Tracker (Schools tab) UCLA had ZERO players drafted out of 13 listed (GT had 1 drafted of 4 listed).
USC had just 3 of their 11 listed players get drafted. I guess UCLA should shut down their football program, and USC should reevaluate theirs, eh UGA fans?
gtfanfrom1951
April 30th, 2012
6:09 am
This is college football not the No FUN LEAGUE there are 120 school in FBs alone thats 85 x120 players. Lots of schools do not have the “NFL’ type player but still win! In the NFL they all run the same offense and defense its boring to watch. They could just have the player change uniforms from team to team and no one could tell the difference. NFL should pay for their on place to play like soccer teams do all over the world.
Top Row Dawg
April 30th, 2012
8:23 am
1 forget
My math may be poor, but the fact remains, we put a lot in the NFL and you put only a little through. No wonder you’ve only got one recruit so far. I see Figgins signed a contract with the Rams, that’s 90% of our eligible players on NFL rosters. Come on Aaron White.
HighTech
April 30th, 2012
8:47 am
Thanks for the laugh, Top Row Dawg. You made it worth reading the comments this morning.
Top Row Dawg
April 30th, 2012
8:56 am
That was pretty funny, took three post and I still think I’m off a little bit. Oh well focus on me being an idiot and ignore the reason I posted. I bet UGA puts double figures in the NFL next year.
HighTech
April 30th, 2012
9:04 am
With the type of recruiting classes UGA has had in recent years, they very well could.
Joshua Barlowe
April 30th, 2012
9:09 am
Ken – Back to the discussion at hand – is there any chance that Roddy goes back to baseball? I know he was drafted in MLB a couple years ago. Seems like he might have more of a chance in MLB?
Shambo
April 30th, 2012
9:48 am
Ken,
What happens to a player’s scholarship if he enters the draft as a junior – is not drafted – and returns to class for his senior year to get his degree. I know he in not elligible to play, but does he lose his scholarship goodies as well? OR does Tech continue to pick up the tab.
Shambo
I wonder....
April 30th, 2012
10:04 am
Did Stephen Hill invite Taylor Kidney over to his house for the draft party?
WnE
April 30th, 2012
10:12 am
Filters are really tight today.
Must be a lot of complaints from the those that are “sensitive” among us!
I wonder....
April 30th, 2012
10:14 am
Does Caleb King like Eddie Murphy?
GT-'98
April 30th, 2012
10:45 am
Walls entered the draft? Seriously?
With the caliber of recruits CPJ has been signing, get used to fewer and fewer Tech players in the NFL.
old dog
April 30th, 2012
10:55 am
Y’alls system will probably not overload you with NFL tallent. I think it is more the system than the school. Some NFL Techsters were there when CPJ got there. I think Tech will come around, but the “cripple” option as is now will baffle folks initially, but can be figured out relatively quickly. (See UGA!) However, I find it hard to believe leaving it like it is will bring in top talent.
Birminham Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:10 am
@old dog
Mostly agree. NFL prospects don’t won’t to play in a highschool offense.
However, that still doesn’t account for CPJ’s, et. al. abysmal ability to recruit defensive players.
The CPJ experiment will come to an end in 3-4 more years, with D. Rad or our new AD declaring failure. Translation— it will take us 7-8 more years to back to a program that looks anything like it did under O’Leary/Fridge.
GTfan 2012
April 30th, 2012
11:26 am
Birmingham Jacket,
Right, winning a lousy 33 games in four years is terrible. If having a mix of 3* and 4* talent in the secondary, 3* and 4* talent in the LB corps, and 3* and 4* talent on the DL is abysmal, then I guess GT’s recruiting is probably going to be abysmal, in your view, for a long long time to come.
Birminham Jacket
April 30th, 2012
11:41 am
@GTfan 2012
“A mix of 3* and 4* talent.” Seriously? I mean seriously?
For delusional and/or uneducated fans like yourself, there may be little hope.
No objective comments (see video link to the right—duh!) or recruiting rankings that report we’ve signed yet another class, no even close to the top 25 will ever convince you that the reason we get spanked every time we play a quality team is lack of talent.
How long has it been since we’ve won a bowl game?
And news flash— a lot of those 33 wins were with Gailey’s players.
CC
April 30th, 2012
11:45 am
LMAO! One player selected in the draft. Ole Paul knows how to develop talent.
Richard
April 30th, 2012
12:03 pm
CC,
In case you’ve missed this minor tidbit, it is not PJ’s job to prepare a player for the NFL. PJ’s role is to win games and graduate players.
Bashing a college coach for total players drafted by NFL teams illustrates more about your understanding than it does anything about PJ.
FL Jacket
April 30th, 2012
12:10 pm
“A mix of 3* and 4* talent.” Seriously? I mean seriously?
For delusional and/or uneducated fans like yourself, there may be little hope.
No objective comments (see video link to the right—duh!) or recruiting rankings that report we’ve signed yet another class, no even close to the top 25 will ever convince you that the reason we get spanked every time we play a quality team is lack of talent.”
LOL @ Birmingham (aka pretend Tech fan)
As dubious a comparison as comparing recruiting stars might be…the 3- and 4-star ratings for our players on defense is a fact. J.C. Lanier, Denzel McCory, and Shawn Green were all 4-star DT recruits. Louis Young and Rod Sweeting were 4-star recruits.
You bring team recruiting rankings into the argument as to why Tech doen’t win more? Yet these rankings apply quantity to the scoring which makes not one lick of sense. Any team that signs 40 2- and 3-star guys would outscore a team like Tech who average more than 3-stars per recruit but only sign 15-20 every year. If you think this makes sense than I have some swampland…
And for the last time…CLEMSON IS A QUALITY OPPONENT
GTfan 2012
April 30th, 2012
12:48 pm
Birmingham (should I even bother with the Jacket part?!?),
So let me see if I got this straight. CPJ get no credit for winning ANY games in his first two or so years because most of those players were recruited under the prior coach. I’ll play along. In 2010, GT had one of its worst years in recent memory. But the good news for CPJ is that he can’t really be blamed for that, by your logic, because 18 of the 22 starters were not recruited by CPJ.
FL Jacket already stated it, but we do have a mix of 3* and 4* talent at every position group on defense. 4* include – DL – Francis Kallon, Anthony Williams, Shawn Green; LBs – Jabari Hunt Days; DL – Louis Young, Rod Sweeting. This does not include J.C. Lanier who was a 4* that moved from defense to offense or Ryan Ayers, who left the program.
GTfan 2012
April 30th, 2012
1:01 pm
Sorry, the second DL should say DB
yo
May 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
Just glad CPJ coached Hill up to the second round or Tech might not have had any draft picks in the NFL. As we know about Decalb County athletes they are lacking in good coaching coming out of high school…..right WnE? Except possibly Tucker.