Tech scrimmage report
Greetings-
Still working on the notebook for Sunday’s paper off of Saturday’s scrimmage. Here’s the start.
1. The first public competition between Georgia Tech backup quarterbacks Synjyn Days and Vad Lee provided evidence of both players’ potential. It also showed there’s still distance between them and starter Tevin Washington.
“He’s in a place where he makes pretty good decisions, and that’s where I’d like to get the next two, in that same spot,” quarterbacks and B-backs coach Brian Bohannon said of Washington following the Yellow Jackets’ Saturday morning scrimmage at Bobby Dodd Stadium.
Washington opened the scrimmage by leading the first-team offense on a 10-play, 70-yard drive against the first-string defense, punctuated by A-back Robert Godhigh’s 8-yard touchdown run. As planned, he played sparingly for the remainder of the roughly 100-play scrimmage. Days and Lee split about 70 of the snaps.
Days showed toughness running for hard yards, generally made good decisions when protection broke down and avoided ball-security problems that have been his undoing in the past. However, several botched center-quarterback exchanges plagued him and center Catlin Alford, who is at the position for the first time. He led the offense to one score and a missed field-goal try.
His highlights included a 25-yard pass to Godhigh and a 27-yard keeper out of the shotgun. Tech coach Paul Johnson said he thought Days improved from the first scrimmage last Saturday, particularly with his decision-making.
“I think I did pretty good outside of the center-QB (exchanges),” Days said. “That’s something we can work on.”
Lee led the offense to two touchdowns. He showed command on his final possession, a six-play, 70-yard drive run out of the shotgun that he finished with a 47-yard tackle-breaking run down the sideline. The play before, he threw a catchable deep ball to wide receiver Jeff Greene that he couldn’t secure.
“You could see at the end when he ran with the [first string] there, he’s got a lot of ability, and he did some things, but he had the ball on the ground way too much,” Johnson said. “He’s still getting the nuts and bolts of the running game.”
2. The offense sprinkled in some plays out of the shotgun and went to it exclusively for the final two possessions, one each for Days and Lee. The team had prepared it for the Sun Bowl, but didn’t use it, and has continued working on it this spring.
“It’s probably a little easier to throw the ball maybe,” Johnson said. “It’s also a lot harder to run the ball. What you gain, you may give away.”
Days said he likes the open space and the vision of the defense provided by the shotgun, in which the B-back lines up behind the quarterback.
“It’s fun, it’s different,” said center Jay Finch, who handled the snaps without problem. “Sometimes it catches the defense off-guard.”
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Alex
April 7th, 2012
2:27 pm
First?
Alex
April 7th, 2012
2:30 pm
Ken, who looked the best out of Days and Lee?
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
2:35 pm
How did receivers look?
Tokyo jacket
April 7th, 2012
2:47 pm
For our “passing” specialist to have a 45 yard rush while breaking tackles says something about the future. I want to see TW really take over the offense. Glad to hear he’s obviously separating himself from two younger kids by making good decisions.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
2:51 pm
Thanks for the updates, Ken. GO JACKETS!
Ken Sugiura
April 7th, 2012
2:53 pm
hard to say, Alex, and i’m not saying that just to be diplomatic. Lee’s touchdown drive at the end was one of the most impressive parts of the scrimmage, but he was ineffective at other times. Days ran pretty well and, if the center-quarterback exchanges can be discounted, took care of the ball.
BTTF – none stood out to me. darren waller had a 20-yard catch from days but also false started. jeff greene fumbled after a catch and dropped a catchable pass. chris jackson caught one short pass, if memory serves, and had a drop. b.j. bostic might have been the best pass catcher saturday.
Tokyo jacket
April 7th, 2012
2:59 pm
Ken, how did the shotgun look? Was it as neutral as CPJ indicated? Or do you think it added a new dimension?
Tokyo jacket
April 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
Jacket Man, I think you’re right about experience. But experience, especially in our offense, is an essential component to winning, every bit as much as an arm or fast legs.
Ken Sugiura
April 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
Tokyo – it worked pretty well. i know days liked playing in it, and lee did his best out of it. my guess is we’ll see some of it in the fall, enough to make defenses have to prepare for it. Brian Bohannon put it aptly: “It’s a little change of pace, but y’all know what we’re going to do.”
Smyrna Jacket
April 7th, 2012
3:13 pm
Ken, You wrote the B-back lines up behind the QB in the shotgun formations we’re running… Is it basically a Pistol formation, or is there some big difference?
Tokyo jacket
April 7th, 2012
3:13 pm
Vad Lee or Synjyn Days would have to REALLY be something special to unseat our one and a half year starting QB. Days proved he couldn’t do it as a redshirt freshman. Lee would really have to be good to do it now. I really expect Days to be playing A-back by the end of the year.
Max Sizemore
April 7th, 2012
3:13 pm
Who is Johnson kidding? He will NEVER use that shotgun; he simply wants to give other teams something else to think about, to prepare for. Anybody who buys that load of BS simply doesn’t understand the commitment needed to run Tech’s offense.
Tokyo jacket
April 7th, 2012
3:14 pm
Thanks Ken – keep up the great work!
Tokyo jacket
April 7th, 2012
3:17 pm
Sizemore, CPJ actually gave a lot of pointers to Urban Meyer. Also, I do remember one option out of the shotgun against Utah. There are a lot of similarities to what we do in Urban Meyer’s shotgun offense, and Oregon’s to a lesser extent. I think there is room for a shotgun formation, smartly used (3rd and long, 2:00 drills, 4th Q comebacks, etc) to coexist with the Techbone. I guess we’ll both know on Labor Day (I’m predicting a W).
Ken Sugiura
April 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
smyrna – i don’t know exactly what makes a pistol a pistol – if it’s a specific distance between center-qb-rb, and how other players are aligned – but it had a pistol look, certainly.
max – part of me thinks you might be right, but this is my third spring practice (more or less) and i don’t remember seeing it as much as i did today. further, if his intent were to try to give the impression that he’s going to use it when he’s actually not, you’d think he would sell it a little harder.
Tech Fan Since 1950
April 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
Lee is the most impressive Tech quarterback I have seen since Joe Hamilton. I realize he has yet to be in a real college game, but I was at the scrimmage today and all I have got to say is wow! Days was also impressive as a runner and Washington provides the steady hand of an experienced senior. Freshman quarterback Andrews also looks like he has great potential. The spread offense is a nice wrinkle to go along with the regular triple option formation. I predict Vad Lee is going to be making waves sooner rather than later. Tech’s offense is again going to be explosive. The key for the season will be whether the defense has enough solid bomb squad members.
FL Jacket
April 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
Good job Ken…
How did the B-Backs look? Did Charles Perkins do anything to close the gap between him and David Sims?
For reference…the Pistol formation is a shotgun formation where the RB lines up 4-5 yards behind the QB…and typically it functions just like a mesh but further behind the LOS. It’s an easier option formation to pass out of (while still optioning the DE) but requires the OL to hold blocks longer when running.
FL Jacket
April 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
Also, if Ken or anyone else at the scrimmage could answer this…
1) How did the DL look…most notably TJ Barnes or Shawn Green?
2) Who played more at ILB…Nealy, Drummond, JHD, or other?
3) How did Fred Holton look?
Ken Sugiura
April 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
FL Jacket – Perkins had a couple good runs, but so did Sims. I wouldn’t think the gap has closed, or didn’t today, at least.
I confess I didn’t give the defense a lot of attention. no one stood out to me aside from williams. i saw euclid cummings and izaan cross make a play or two. the times i checked, nealy and drummond played with the first group, Hunt-Days with the second.
jacket man – it’s true that neither nesbitt nor washington had much experience when they took over. the difference is that they weren’t competing against anybody who had experience, which is the case with days and lee. i’d agree it’s not a given that washington will start vs. virginia tech, but i’d be surprised if he didn’t.
Tokyo jacket
April 7th, 2012
4:11 pm
Jacket Man, I think bringing up Nesbitt is moot. Other than Shaw, he was the only QB we still had on the roster when CPJ came to Tech. Whom did TW beat out for QB? With Shaw’s departure, he was the only QB with any practice reps in the system.
How many freshman QBs do you know that have led their team to any kind of championship? It doesn’t happen much. By having TW’s experience in game management, we’ll be in better shape than having a less experienced, more athletic/better passing “kid” at the helm. Again, I think Vad Lee or Synjyn Days will have to REALLY outplay TW to unseat him.
I do agree with you on one thing though – this is a huge audition, especially for Days. If he doesn’t hold off Vad Lee, he’s not in the QB rotation anymore. He’ll be playing AB, S, or even WR. If Days and Lee look good, I’d expect someone else to transition to AB or at least redshirt.
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
4:27 pm
Thanks Ken, great update.
Nice to hear Perkins made some nice runs. He doen’t have to close much grown on Sims, he need to secure the 2nd sport, he will get carries Lyons got last year and chnace to prove himself.
Bostic could be Tech’s Percy Harvin type if Tech thows the ball more, he got some quicks.
Sounds like Godhigh is making some plays, nice to see a walk-on do so well.
FROM YELLOW TO GREEN JACKET
April 7th, 2012
4:36 pm
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Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
4:44 pm
GO KUCH !!!!!!
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
4:51 pm
WOW, Kuch just BARELY missed a bird on 11 that would have put him alone at the top
WnE
April 7th, 2012
4:58 pm
re:
. The first public competition between Georgia Tech backup quarterbacks Synjyn Days and Vad Lee provided evidence of both players’ potential. It also showed there’s still distance between them and starter Tevin Washington.
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Thanks for honest unbiased reporting Ken, from reading practice reports on some of the GT-themed message boards you’d think that Vad Lee was the 2nd coming of RG-III, one guy wrote that “Vad had developed into a prolific passer during his RS-year.” and hinted that Tevin Washington is GT’s lame-duck QB that is sitting by idly until he loses his starting job.
Just goes to show how much those guys on those MBs know about what they see on the field.
Any injuries or updates on DL play?
jadams
April 7th, 2012
5:01 pm
Thanks for the updates Ken. Good Job
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
5:27 pm
Ken, was there any special teams play today? I would assume they did something. Any thoughts?
yeller bug
April 7th, 2012
5:33 pm
Go Kuch!
Nice work again Ken!
Pistol vs Shotgun is based on the position of the QB. If the QB is the deepest in the backfield it’s a shotgun (long barrel from center to QB). If the RB is behind the QB vice beside or slightly in front, then it’s a pistol. I’m glad to see that wrinkle being tested.
Who’s to say CPJ won’t rotate QBs similar to wildcat scenarios in the NFL. TW will be the main starter, but I expect series with either Days or Lee—maybe in the pistol or something to mix things up. I’d like to see CPJ implement a hurry up/no huddle offense too. Change pace, change QBs, keep the opponent’s D off balance. We need to find some players who can catch the ball though. If we can’t catch, there’s no point in throwing.
NiquePhotog
April 7th, 2012
5:37 pm
Super,
They ran 2 or 3 kickoffs and a few punts. I believe it was Zenon that had an outstanding return, can’t remember if it was a punt or kickoff though.
I believe all but one field goal was made.
Ghost
April 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
Tokyo Jacket, The tech bone is a service academy option offense, Mayer radically changed his offense after 1 season at Florida to incorporate a TE and a fullback, Meyer was smart enough to realize his version of the spread he ran at Utah, wouldn’t work against bigger faster SEC defenses.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
5:46 pm
Thanks, Photog
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
5:48 pm
Ghost, although I am not against any kinds of variations, I still contend that CPJ’s basic O CAN succeed…..BUT the Tech D has to step it up to allow that to happen on a consistent basis.
BLT
April 7th, 2012
5:53 pm
Yet he won a MNC Ghost.
BLT
April 7th, 2012
6:02 pm
Ghost, I assume you mean Urban Meyer.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
6:06 pm
WnE
April 7th, 2012
4:58 pm
Thanks for honest unbiased reporting Ken, from reading practice reports on some of the GT-themed message boards you’d think that Vad Lee was the 2nd coming of RG-III, one guy wrote that “Vad had developed into a prolific passer during his RS-year.” and hinted that Tevin Washington is GT’s lame-duck QB that is sitting by idly until he loses his starting job.
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Hinted? More fabrications and outright lies from Gollum.
You must have thought Vad Lee was something to stalk him on Twitter and try to convince him not to sign with Tech.
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Just goes to show how much those guys on those MBs know about what they see on the field.
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It must have hurt your feelings to be banned from trolling the message boards.
NiquePhotog
April 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
Those SEC defenses are just so BIG and so FAST! There’s absolutely no way a team like Boise, or MSU, or UCF, or Colorado could stand a chance against the super-humans that make up the SEC….
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:10 pm
Phil Mickelson is on fire.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
6:14 pm
Careful, NiquePhotog…dawgfan or Rick James will accuse you of living vicariously through someone. lol.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
6:19 pm
Ken…out of three quarterbacks, who threw the ball better. That is, who, if any, threw tight spirals and catchable passes?
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:23 pm
HT,
http://georgiatech.247sports.com/Article/Tech-Scrimmage-Report-Offense-69144
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
6:35 pm
GREAT finish for Kuch after fading over the past few holes
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
6:36 pm
Thanks, Dawg48. That was a good synopsis. There may be a passing game in our future.
Vad Lee
- By far the best passer on the team
- Was throwing a tight sprial
- Had a bunch of nice passes down field
- Scored two touchdowns running…one long and one short
- Turned a 10 yard run into a 40 or 50 with a nice cut he made
- Got some snaps with the ones
- Is still having some isssues running the option
- Working on making the right reads
- Overall had good day and impressed me
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
6:36 pm
Good possibility of Kuch and Bubba being paired tomorrow. Could there be any better name for a dwag than Bubba? LOL
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:38 pm
SS, I guess you know who I’m pulling for.
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:39 pm
Fred Couples is falling apart.
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:40 pm
Nice shot by Bubba.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
6:42 pm
48, based on the response to Kuch’s last shot, he’s more a fan fav in Augusta than Bubba. He won the hearts of Augusta fans when he was paired with Tiger as an amateur back in ‘98 and did so good. I doubt that most in Augusta, other than the die-hard dwags, even know where Bubba went to school
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
6:44 pm
Even the dawg fans in the crowd love KUCH.
He’s one of those guys even biggest rivals like.
Nice day,he’s in contention.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
6:44 pm
Kuch lipped too many putts today—-11, 12, 13, and 15. The bird on 18 made up for it though
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:45 pm
SS, prob so. It would make a good group for us Georgia natives.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 7th, 2012
6:46 pm
Other than 5 years ago, when I rented out my house and tickets and did some traveling, this will be the first Sunday round I have not attended since 1956. I really wasn’t into it this year and sold my tickets. If he stays in contention, I’m going to regret it.
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:49 pm
SS, I have so many different family get togethers tomorrow I will prob miss it all.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
6:49 pm
It always works out that way, Supersize. lol.
Dawg48
April 7th, 2012
6:50 pm
HT, it’s a good site.
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
6:52 pm
Funny comment
Greene and Sweeting got into fight after a play, sweeting won.
Tech QB situation is a crazy one
TW knows offense best
SD explosive running, best runner
VL Best passing
Delbert D.
April 7th, 2012
6:59 pm
Urban Meyer changed his offense after the first year because he didn’t have Chris Leak at QB. Leak was not well-suited for the spread option, yet they won the BCS championship with Tebow contributing a lot on runs and short passes, particularly close to the end zone.
Jaybo Shaw got rotations with Nesbitt both years. I expect to see that this year with Washington and the number 2 guy. Using two QBs in this offense makes timing crucial. Lots of reps needed in practice.
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
7:01 pm
Supersize – Happened to me when Tech won National title in 1990, the one year I was deployed in the Marine Corps for Op Desert Storm.
Received the game on VHS two weeks later in a care package.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
BTTF…It’s not normal if tempers don’t flair occaisionally in practice. lol. If Vad Lee becomes more comfortable with the option, he could be a true dual threat.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
7:03 pm
BTTF…Thank you for your service. I’m sorry you missed seeing it live in 1990. It was awesome.
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
Meyer’s Utah team could have beat anyone in the country when they had Smith as QB. They should have been in title game.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
7:07 pm
It always seems that Utah is disrespected. They beat Tech twice in bowl games and beat Alabama 31-17 in the 2009 Sugar Bowl. Alabama was ranked #1 for five weeks that year.
BLT
April 7th, 2012
7:13 pm
Thanks for the update Ken. Go Jackets!
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
7:17 pm
BLT…It was Ron Burgundy’s fault…
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h436/gmespitter/tigerdroppings/petrinobike.gif
BLT
April 7th, 2012
7:32 pm
It’s still hilarious!
BLT
April 7th, 2012
7:36 pm
Yeah, but those were teams with “ELITE” recruits. We have to travel the globe for unknown recruits that will never make it in NFL. Just ask Wrexie. LOL
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
7:45 pm
lol @ BLT…Kyle Whittingham must be some sort of kung fu panda john “bluto” blutarsky failure as a coach.
gt4ever
April 7th, 2012
8:06 pm
Come on Super….. If all we have is CPJ’s basic offense then we are as we have been for two years….. Good enough to beat a average to BAD team…..
ToeMeetsLeather
April 7th, 2012
8:15 pm
I think our record this year would probably be the same with Washington or Lee. Next year is where you would see the big difference. Lee as a seasoned RS Sophmore vs a first year starter. I like Tevin a lot, but I say let’s get the Vad Lee show rolling and take this program to the next level.
Delbert D.
April 7th, 2012
8:15 pm
Tech beat the #5 team in the country last season. Something I learned last week on the Georgia blog is that the opponents’ rankings when you play them is the only thing that counts.
Delbert D.
April 7th, 2012
8:18 pm
ToeMeetsLeather – That popped a lightbulb off in my head. Maybe Tech should schedule Washington&Lee for the replacement game that’s needed due to expansion.
HighTech
April 7th, 2012
8:22 pm
Delbert D….that only works when UGA plays #1 LSU. It doesn’t work when Tech plays #5 Clemson. UGA played well in the first half and that is not a moral victory.
Delbert D.
April 7th, 2012
8:31 pm
HighTech – It counts for Auburn, as well. They were a top 25 when Georgia beat them. They were unranked at the end of the season, preserving the Bulldogs’ streak of not having beaten a ranked team. But the top 25 when they played them is the only thing that matters…
gt4ever
April 7th, 2012
8:35 pm
Delbert,
I think that most football fans in general believe that a top 5 ranking for Clemson was a complete JOKE…. How many points did Clemson get beat by in their bowl…. I think WV just scored again….
Jacket Fan
April 7th, 2012
8:56 pm
All the triple option plays that we run, only give us the option of running on ONE half of the field because the dive is up the middle and then the QB and A-Back run to one side of the field that has been determined pre-snap.
We do run counter plays, but this play does NOT give us the option after the snap to run the play on either side of the field.
Just trying to give suggestions with the Oregon tape, but I don’t remember seeing anything out of our playbook in the past 2 or 3 years that give the triple option to either edge of the field like Oregon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvM2KDn5yCo&feature=g-vrec&context=G24fb193RVAAAAAAAAAg
Having the OPTION to take either the left edge of the field or the right edge of the field would spread the defense opening HUGE running lanes!
macrotech
April 7th, 2012
8:56 pm
Didn’t CPJ play a pass heavy offense in Hawaii? I don’t think that he’s one for ‘playing games’ with opponents….I doubt the shot gun is a ploy to throw teams down rabbit holes. CPJ has always been straight forward…if he has a quarterback that can throw…why WOULDN’T he implement the shot gun? I look forward to seeing our team take it to the next level! GO TECH!!!
BLT
April 7th, 2012
9:18 pm
gt4ever, I remember nobody gave Tech a chance against Clemson last year. It’s terrible their season fell apart but at the time Tech was expected to be shredded.
Kind of reminds me of how UGA was going to destroy Boise State the first game last year.
JACKETfan12
April 7th, 2012
10:02 pm
THE reason that CPJ is starting to add the pistol formation to his offense is because Vad is going to take over in the near future and CPJ knows it. Im not saying that Vad will start against VT by any means, but Vad is obviously the future of GT football (assuming Justin Thomas does not come in and turn heads, which he may). CPJ has said before that he calls plays and centers his offense around players’ abilities. Nesbitt was never a true dual-threat and Tevin does not really have a strength besides having experience. Vad is obviously at his best in the pistol and I suppose that CPJ is getting the offense used to the pistol more because he plans on using it in combination with his traditional flexbone for the next 4 years.
JACKETfan12
April 7th, 2012
10:07 pm
It would be thrilling to see Vad run a TRUE run n’ shoot offense once he gets more experience. Adding the pistol to CPJ’s “base” flexbone truly opens up so many doors. I am sure he will still run the ball a lot out of the pistol when used, but it will obviously help create more time in the pocket on 3rd and long situations. AND I am sure that we are still going to see the typical dual a-back flexbone more often than not, but I still think he is starting to twist the pistol into his offense BECAUSE Vad is the future of GT football. Everyone knows it. It is just a matter of time before he gets the necessary experience to shine in this offense.
big gt fan
April 7th, 2012
10:24 pm
you will be foolish to start washington
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
10:28 pm
Thanks HighTech, I was trying to think of the team they beat in the bowl. I think that Utah team was pretty much unbeatable that year, they had that it facture going.
I agree with point about TW and Vad, starting Vad this year would be huge for the following year. But if Washington can be a tab bit better then last year it would help a lot. I think the only game he really hurt Tech was the UGA game, he did good enough to win against Va Tech, Miami, Clemson (did win), Viginia.
My guess is Vad, and Days will see a lot of playing time to get them ready for following year
BigTimeTECHFan
April 7th, 2012
10:32 pm
Dwight Howard just made a free throw and the announcer said “who is this Mark Price”
GT plug
GT
April 8th, 2012
1:26 am
Enter your comments here
GT
April 8th, 2012
1:27 am
Hey can anyone comment on the Defense??? This was and has been the big trouble area in this program!
GT Rich
April 8th, 2012
2:29 am
No pass rush. If it wasn’t for center-QB fumbles, the O would’ve dominated today. The secondary struggled when the O would also send an A-back out for a pass to go with the WRs.
HighTech
April 8th, 2012
8:22 am
That was a nice video Jacket Fan. Tech runs a Counter Option.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0pSw0RQBrU
Ghost
April 8th, 2012
10:39 am
Delbert, Chris Leak was the Florida starting QB in 2005 and 2006. Tebow didn’t start until 2007.
Jacket Fan
April 8th, 2012
11:01 am
Also, one thing I notice from watching Oregon film is that we seem to have similar talent and physique. – really fast RB’s and smaller, but quicker offensive lineman than your heavy SEC schools. Oregon seems to wear teams out by running “no huddle”. Given the “right” game situation, we could utilize the same techniques…
HighTech
April 8th, 2012
11:12 am
Jacket Fan…Probably. Definitely would not want to during the long, time consuming drives downfield, aka Deathmarch.
Jacket Fan
April 8th, 2012
11:21 am
I agree with you HighTech:
There is a time and place for the “Deathmarch”. That said, there will also be times in games where the approach will be, “let’s score right now…”
Delbert D.
April 8th, 2012
12:08 pm
@gt4ever “Delbert,
I think that most football fans in general believe that a top 5 ranking for Clemson was a complete JOKE…. How many points did Clemson get beat by in their bowl…. I think WV just scored again….”
You missed the point I was making. Tech didn’t really beat the #5 team, and Georgia really didn’t beat anybody that was ranked. Go to the Georgia blog, and they will tell you different.
@Ghost – The point I was making there is that Meyer couldn’t play his spread offense to its maximum effect while Chris Leak was the starting quarterback.
dawgfan
April 8th, 2012
1:39 pm
And Techies wonder why people call it a high school offense. I come over here and read about botched QB-center exchanges and the QB’s learning the “nuts and bolts” of the running game. Then this little gem out of Paul Johnson on the shotgun:
“It’s probably a little easier to throw the ball maybe,” Johnson said. “It’s also a lot harder to run the ball. What you gain, you may give away.”
LMAO. Water is wet too coach, in case you didn’t know.
Dr Bob
April 8th, 2012
2:04 pm
unfortunately to have a passing offense you have to be able to catch the ball
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
2:18 pm
dwagfan, get over yourself. CPJ was answering a point blank question. What else would you expect ANY coach to say?
BLT
April 8th, 2012
2:30 pm
Thanks dawgfan and Dr Bob, Happy Easter!
dawgfan
April 8th, 2012
2:46 pm
“unfortunately to have a passing offense you have to be able to catch the ball”
They are still working on the “nuts and bolts” so what do you expect? They can’t get QB-center exhanges right. They act like the shotgun is some alien formation from deep within outer space, eventhough other teams have been doing it for decades. Its not uncommon to see it at the high school level, but Georgia Tech is real confident they are going ot catch the defense “off guard” with it!! LMAO.
Have fun with your 8 wins and dumb meaningless bowl games in 2012 Tech fans. Things are looking bright.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
2:52 pm
dwagfan, have fun with your wins over the dregs of the SEC and the OOC pushovers you always play
BLT
April 8th, 2012
2:55 pm
Dawgfan, are you “from deep within outer space”? Ha!
Thank you
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
2:56 pm
HOLY COW !!!! A DOUBLE EAGLE for Oosthuizen on number 2. UNBELIEVABLE !!!!
BLT
April 8th, 2012
2:57 pm
Braves, Jackets losing and we get the dwagtrolls?
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
3:07 pm
is anybody else having problems with this website today. I’m getting incredibly slow refresh speeds using both Explorer and Firefox.
dawgfan
April 8th, 2012
3:14 pm
“have fun with your wins over the . . . OOC pushovers you always play.”
Thanks. I will. The last one of the year is always the most fun. 10 of 11 and counting. Pushover indeed.
HighTech
April 8th, 2012
3:29 pm
Supersize…I believe it is the Meebo toolbar causing glitches.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
3:35 pm
HT, I think you are right. I reported that in an email during the week, but they still haven’t done anything about it.
HighTech
April 8th, 2012
3:41 pm
I don’t think they will do anything about it. “Today’s Deal!” has a dollar sign next to it. We should tell them we are not having “Easter Fun in Atlanta!” and will boycott “Today’s Deal!”. We’ll never drive a Volvo or go to Disney either! Do you think that will work? lol.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
3:43 pm
if it affects the number of hits on a blog, I think they will do something about it.
HighTech
April 8th, 2012
3:52 pm
WnE
April 7th, 2012
4:42 pm
Is Chris Conley hurt?
Any update on Mitchell at CB/DB from this last scrimmage?
I haven’t see any stats from him in the last 2 scrimmages.
I like to keep up with what the Metro Atl. Area players are doing, especially the ones that also had offers from GT and had the Academics for GT.
Good to Scott-Wesley play well again, that RS yr seemed to help him out a lot.
CPJ tried to Recruit him to GT with a spiel that went something like this:
“If you sign with GT to play A-Back I promise to throw the ball more after you sign”
Scott-Wesley’s reply:
“It looks to me that position is more like RB than it is WR, I think I’ll look elsewhere”
Well, here’s to hoping that BOTH TEAMS are 11-0 when the last Saturday in November rolls around this year.
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More invented dialogue from Gollum. Funny how the UGA folks ignore him but he doesn’t go away. Nothing seems to work except for direct questioning about Vad Lee. He is one determined troll.
BLT
April 8th, 2012
4:20 pm
Super, I assume you’ve clicked the icon at the right bottom by the ad scroll. It allows for minimizing.
HighTech, I read that too. No one responded on the other blog. Funny!
BLT
April 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
“spiel” classic!
GT fan
April 8th, 2012
4:27 pm
From what I’ve just read, and what I’ve witnessed at last Spring/Summer scrimmages & 2011 games, IMO, Days needs to be moved to A-back, he’s a very good runner.
Sounds as if Lee could be a good one @ QB with a promising youngster (Andrews) in the wings.
Seems like we forgot about Bostic … IMO, his ceiling is much higher than Roddy’s or Embry’s. Sounds like Godhigh is a good one too. Add Snoddy, Zenon, Smith, (and Days), and that’s deep talent at the A-back spot.
How bout some D news? O’s gonna be fine … D is where improvement is needed.
OldSchoolGold-1964
April 8th, 2012
4:47 pm
Emotions in check: yes, it is just a scrimmage. Optimism allowed: this team has great protential, offensively and defensively.
Come actual game time, work hard, believe in what you do and can do; and don’t get carried away reading your own press covereage. (Time for glad-handing after accomplishments.)
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
5:48 pm
BLT, I gave up and walked away for a while, hence my delay in answering your question. The icon to minimize does not work on my system using the Firefox browser, which is my default browser. It does work if I use Explorer, but response/refresh time using Explorer is no better than it is with Firefox.
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
5:48 pm
Seems to be faster now
Supersize that order, mutt
April 8th, 2012
6:06 pm
Kuch is TIED FOR THE LEAD here in Augusta. GO YELLOW JACKET !!!!
Dawg48
April 8th, 2012
7:04 pm
Let’s goooooooooo Bubba!
Dawg48
April 8th, 2012
7:36 pm
Congrtats Bubba! DGD!
Birmingham Jacket
April 8th, 2012
7:59 pm
Roster is weak, weak, weak.
Poor recruiting= Poor Performance.
GT fan
April 8th, 2012
8:23 pm
B’ham …. with a pourous D, YOUNG O-line, and a BAD year from the #1 B-back (maybe due to OL youth?) GT still won 8 games. Add poor ST & kicking (1-4 FGs in the bowl game) and 8 Ws was good.
I seriously doubt all those things are going to be the same in 2012.
TW will be a SR with lots of experience, and it doesn’t seem like there’d be a huge drop-off at QB should he get injured.
IMO, the A-backs are much more explosive without Roddy & Embry. Roddy was more than solid, but didn’t have “homerun speed”. Embry had the speed, but just didn’t have elusiveness.
And it’s practically impossible for the #1 B-back to perform as bad as 2011 (698 yds).
The D was young as well in 2011, and SHOULD improve. Even if the D doesn’t improve, I see GT winning 8+ again in 2012. It’ll just mean 2013 will be PJ’s 3rd D-coord.
BLT
April 8th, 2012
8:30 pm
Congrats to Bubba!
BLT
April 8th, 2012
8:33 pm
I like Tech’s roster! Go Jackets!
FL Jacket
April 8th, 2012
8:52 pm
Birmingham Jacket = Not a Tech fan
BigTimeTECHFan
April 8th, 2012
9:11 pm
Bubba pulled it out, great job.
Kuch played geat
Ole Yeller
April 8th, 2012
10:32 pm
Great job, both you Ga. boys Bubba, and Kuch.
GT
April 9th, 2012
7:29 am
Lee was better hands down. Days still fumbles the ball way too much. And tw has reached his ceiling. Vad will only get better.
gt4ever
April 9th, 2012
9:55 am
I wonder…. Why is it if you say something that is critical in any way towards the football team, you are considered a dawg fan or your not a GT fan…. It’s really kinda sad the number of people that have excepted mediocrity…. I’m reminded the late great AD Braine, when he said, we shouldn’t expect to win anymore than we do because of academic restrictions… As if we are the only school in the country that has football players attending class… It’s simply ABSURD, how we have given up, and continue to validate a good season by winning 8 games against the sisters of the poor…
AT A BOY
April 9th, 2012
10:08 am
STILL LOVING THE KUCH
DawginLex
April 9th, 2012
10:14 am
UGA and GT QB situation is not too different.
The #1 QB has a lot to prove to the fanbase to be embraced as the starter hands down.
Tech has Lee and UGA has Mason and Lemay.
I think Murray has great ability but his decison making and trying to do too much against the better teams leads to mistakes.
I just think TW has hit his high water mark. Great leader and well respected but the Lee kid looks the part, but just does not have the experience.
In my book Lee energizes the fanbase. I’d give him the start and would be comfortable knowing I have a solid experienced backup in TW.
My $.02
FL Jacket
April 9th, 2012
10:17 am
gt4ever…
Is your concern more rhetorical or is it rooted in some form of factual information?
FL Jacket
April 9th, 2012
10:23 am
DawginLex…
I think your are pretty much correct. However, nothing would unravel a team more than “giving” anyone a starting position without earning it…
George Stein
April 9th, 2012
10:25 am
Is there anything sadder than dawfan and WnE spending a beautiful Easter weekend trolling a GT football blog? I’d say they have helped me move beyond annoyance to pity.
Fair point, Lex. I think that’s the issue for us – is the risk of turnovers and other mistakes worth the reward of tremendous upside?
It’s about the tone of the criticism, gt4ever. You can be critical, but at least make it based in fact.
DawginLex
April 9th, 2012
10:42 am
I agree. If the difference in performance didn’t warrant it, then I’d say no.
Didn’t see the scrimmage but it sounds like Lee made some plays.
I am just looking big picture from what I saw a year ago. TW just did not impress me. We destroyed him. Miami destroyed him. I just don’t see Lee not playing a whole lot this year in order for Tech to go up a notch.
The defense is still the key to going to the ACC title game
FL Jacket
April 9th, 2012
10:52 am
DawginLex…
The Miami and UGA games exposed, IMHO, Tevin’s inability to consistently throw an intermediate passing game. The throws the heck out of the sideline pass and the fly route…but when you ask him to throw crossers, read a defense, and feel a pass rush he’s extremely vulnerable. This is where I can agree not having as many passing reps can hurt.
But at the same time, it’s not like we ran the ball that effectively in those games either. In the Miami game, we couldn’t block on the interior to get David Sims going, and certainly couldn’t block Sean Spence from running the pitch down from the backside. Tevin isn’t athletic enough (like Nesbitt was) to make poor reads but still gain positive yardage.
gt4ever
April 9th, 2012
11:23 am
FL Jacket…
It is FACT that our previous AD made this kind of ABSURD statement….
FL Jacket
April 9th, 2012
12:04 pm
“It is FACT that our previous AD made this kind of ABSURD statement….”
gt4ever…
Which is why, among other dumb contractual decisions, is why he’s the “previous” AD. However, you have to agree on this point. Either Tech was going to continue down the destructive path of recruiting the same kids as everybody else and either…
1) Live with sub-standard APR scores that would continue to land us on probation or cost us scholarships.
2) Implement some out of the box thinking that would allow the school to be competitive on the field and in the classroom. This has pretty much happened on offense. On defense, however, we’re not winning recruiting battles for kids who could come here and decide not to.
I realize we aren’t in “expect 10 wins or more every season” territory yet, but what we certainly don’t need to do is expect that level of standard without really reaching it yet. Especially when we’ve got a HC who has the best winning% since Bobby Dodd and a program headed in the right direction.
bittter----DUH!
April 9th, 2012
12:48 pm
jackets win ACC——————————————–?
GTfan 2012
April 9th, 2012
1:37 pm
gt4ever…
My problem with Braine was that he said something like that publicly. That’s a total copout on being a successful athletic director. If your team is consistently underperforming, then you fire the coach, you don’t make excuses. BUT, you also have to define underperform. I happen to think winning 6 games in one season and then 8 games the next is not “consistently underperforming” at GT. However, winning 6 games in 2012 could be. Winning 7 games could be. Winning 8 or more in 2012, probably is enough to stay off the hot seat. Winning 10 games would probably get CPJ another raise. You may have a different definition and I’d love to hear it.
gt4ever
April 9th, 2012
4:02 pm
@GTfan 2012,
My take on Braine…. He was frustrated and trying to protect his friend… Chan Gailey… People say stupid things out of frustration… It may have been a stupid statement, but I am constantly surprised by how many people buy into the fact that we are handicapped by academics….
As far this teams performance… IMHO, we have underperformed… I make this assessment based on our scheduling from year to year, and who we beat. I don’t think any rational person can seriously say that we have played a very hard schedule for the past two years, maybe longer…. and beat anybody of substance… This year will be very interesting, and even with the very easy schedule this coach will probably not win more than 8 games…. If he does, then I will be the first to say I was wrong… But, with the very young Defense we have coming back, it’s very hard to figure where those wins will indeed come from…
Supersize that order, mutt
April 9th, 2012
5:00 pm
gt4ever, I DO think academics at Tech play a role in recruiting. HOWEVER, I don’t think that is the defining factor in recruiting, or failure in recruiting. One thing that has ALWAYS been the case at Tech is that whether the mention of academics is a fair INTERNAL assessment of Tech, opposing schools ALWAYS use Tech’s academics as a negative recruiting tool against Tech. It was done under Alexander, Dodd, Ross, O’Leary, and every other coach we have had. It is ironic that the fans of those other schools downplay Tech academics, and even laugh at it, but the recruiters for those schools love to use that to attempt to convince kids not to consider Tech. The most flagrant example of that tactic that always comes to my mind is when Tech was recruiting, and eventually signed, Mackel Harris way back in 1976. Fortunately for Tech, he was smart enough to see through all that crap and still sign with Tech, and he was good too. And he went public with the tactics that those other schools used. That’s just one example that I remember; there have been many many others. I agree that we underperformed last year, but I don’t think it was so much a case of poor recruiting overall as it was the fact that we really didn’t have a team leader. Nesbitt was far more of a team leader than TW is, although even Josh let it slide against Kansas in 2010. I firmly believe that had he not gotten injured against VT, Tech would have ended up winning that game and beating the mutts too. Do we have a team leader now? Time will tell, but I’m afraid we still don’t have one on defense; but then when HAVE we had a true leader on defense?