Tech scrimmage report

Greetings-

Still working on the notebook for Sunday’s paper off of Saturday’s scrimmage. Here’s the start.

1. The first public competition between Georgia Tech backup quarterbacks Synjyn Days and Vad Lee provided evidence of both players’ potential. It also showed there’s still distance between them and starter Tevin Washington.

“He’s in a place where he makes pretty good decisions, and that’s where I’d like to get the next two, in that same spot,” quarterbacks and B-backs coach Brian Bohannon said of Washington following the Yellow Jackets’ Saturday morning scrimmage at Bobby Dodd Stadium.

Washington opened the scrimmage by leading the first-team offense on a 10-play, 70-yard drive against the first-string defense, punctuated by A-back Robert Godhigh’s 8-yard touchdown run. As planned, he played sparingly for the remainder of the roughly 100-play scrimmage. Days and Lee split about 70 of the snaps.

Days showed toughness running for hard yards, generally made good decisions when protection broke down and avoided ball-security problems that have been his undoing in the past. However, several botched center-quarterback exchanges plagued him and center Catlin Alford, who is at the position for the first time. He led the offense to one score and a missed field-goal try.

His highlights included a 25-yard pass to Godhigh and a 27-yard keeper out of the shotgun. Tech coach Paul Johnson said he thought Days improved from the first scrimmage last Saturday, particularly with his decision-making.

“I think I did pretty good outside of the center-QB (exchanges),” Days said. “That’s something we can work on.”

Lee led the offense to two touchdowns. He showed command on his final possession, a six-play, 70-yard drive run out of the shotgun that he finished with a 47-yard tackle-breaking run down the sideline. The play before, he threw a catchable deep ball to wide receiver Jeff Greene that he couldn’t secure.

“You could see at the end when he ran with the [first string] there, he’s got a lot of ability, and he did some things, but he had the ball on the ground way too much,” Johnson said. “He’s still getting the nuts and bolts of the running game.”

2. The offense sprinkled in some plays out of the shotgun and went to it exclusively for the final two possessions, one each for Days and Lee. The team had prepared it for the Sun Bowl, but didn’t use it, and has continued working on it this spring.

“It’s probably a little easier to throw the ball maybe,” Johnson said. “It’s also a lot harder to run the ball. What you gain, you may give away.”

Days said he likes the open space and the vision of the defense provided by the shotgun, in which the B-back lines up behind the quarterback.

“It’s fun, it’s different,” said center Jay Finch, who handled the snaps without problem. “Sometimes it catches the defense off-guard.”

137 comments Add your comment

Alex

April 7th, 2012
2:27 pm

Alex

April 7th, 2012
2:30 pm

Ken, who looked the best out of Days and Lee?

BigTimeTECHFan

April 7th, 2012
2:35 pm

How did receivers look?

Tokyo jacket

April 7th, 2012
2:47 pm

For our “passing” specialist to have a 45 yard rush while breaking tackles says something about the future. I want to see TW really take over the offense. Glad to hear he’s obviously separating himself from two younger kids by making good decisions.

HighTech

April 7th, 2012
2:51 pm

Thanks for the updates, Ken. GO JACKETS!

Ken Sugiura

April 7th, 2012
2:53 pm

hard to say, Alex, and i’m not saying that just to be diplomatic. Lee’s touchdown drive at the end was one of the most impressive parts of the scrimmage, but he was ineffective at other times. Days ran pretty well and, if the center-quarterback exchanges can be discounted, took care of the ball.
BTTF – none stood out to me. darren waller had a 20-yard catch from days but also false started. jeff greene fumbled after a catch and dropped a catchable pass. chris jackson caught one short pass, if memory serves, and had a drop. b.j. bostic might have been the best pass catcher saturday.

Tokyo jacket

April 7th, 2012
2:59 pm

Ken, how did the shotgun look? Was it as neutral as CPJ indicated? Or do you think it added a new dimension?

Tokyo jacket

April 7th, 2012
3:12 pm

Jacket Man, I think you’re right about experience. But experience, especially in our offense, is an essential component to winning, every bit as much as an arm or fast legs.

Ken Sugiura

April 7th, 2012
3:12 pm

Tokyo – it worked pretty well. i know days liked playing in it, and lee did his best out of it. my guess is we’ll see some of it in the fall, enough to make defenses have to prepare for it. Brian Bohannon put it aptly: “It’s a little change of pace, but y’all know what we’re going to do.”

Smyrna Jacket

April 7th, 2012
3:13 pm

Ken, You wrote the B-back lines up behind the QB in the shotgun formations we’re running… Is it basically a Pistol formation, or is there some big difference?

Tokyo jacket

April 7th, 2012
3:13 pm

Vad Lee or Synjyn Days would have to REALLY be something special to unseat our one and a half year starting QB. Days proved he couldn’t do it as a redshirt freshman. Lee would really have to be good to do it now. I really expect Days to be playing A-back by the end of the year.

Max Sizemore

April 7th, 2012
3:13 pm

Who is Johnson kidding? He will NEVER use that shotgun; he simply wants to give other teams something else to think about, to prepare for. Anybody who buys that load of BS simply doesn’t understand the commitment needed to run Tech’s offense.

Tokyo jacket

April 7th, 2012
3:14 pm

Thanks Ken – keep up the great work!

Tokyo jacket

April 7th, 2012
3:17 pm

Sizemore, CPJ actually gave a lot of pointers to Urban Meyer. Also, I do remember one option out of the shotgun against Utah. There are a lot of similarities to what we do in Urban Meyer’s shotgun offense, and Oregon’s to a lesser extent. I think there is room for a shotgun formation, smartly used (3rd and long, 2:00 drills, 4th Q comebacks, etc) to coexist with the Techbone. I guess we’ll both know on Labor Day (I’m predicting a W).

Ken Sugiura

April 7th, 2012
3:31 pm

smyrna – i don’t know exactly what makes a pistol a pistol – if it’s a specific distance between center-qb-rb, and how other players are aligned – but it had a pistol look, certainly.
max – part of me thinks you might be right, but this is my third spring practice (more or less) and i don’t remember seeing it as much as i did today. further, if his intent were to try to give the impression that he’s going to use it when he’s actually not, you’d think he would sell it a little harder.

Tech Fan Since 1950

April 7th, 2012
3:36 pm

Lee is the most impressive Tech quarterback I have seen since Joe Hamilton. I realize he has yet to be in a real college game, but I was at the scrimmage today and all I have got to say is wow! Days was also impressive as a runner and Washington provides the steady hand of an experienced senior. Freshman quarterback Andrews also looks like he has great potential. The spread offense is a nice wrinkle to go along with the regular triple option formation. I predict Vad Lee is going to be making waves sooner rather than later. Tech’s offense is again going to be explosive. The key for the season will be whether the defense has enough solid bomb squad members.

FL Jacket

April 7th, 2012
3:42 pm

Good job Ken…

How did the B-Backs look? Did Charles Perkins do anything to close the gap between him and David Sims?

For reference…the Pistol formation is a shotgun formation where the RB lines up 4-5 yards behind the QB…and typically it functions just like a mesh but further behind the LOS. It’s an easier option formation to pass out of (while still optioning the DE) but requires the OL to hold blocks longer when running.

FL Jacket

April 7th, 2012
3:56 pm

Also, if Ken or anyone else at the scrimmage could answer this…

1) How did the DL look…most notably TJ Barnes or Shawn Green?

2) Who played more at ILB…Nealy, Drummond, JHD, or other?

3) How did Fred Holton look?

Ken Sugiura

April 7th, 2012
4:04 pm

FL Jacket – Perkins had a couple good runs, but so did Sims. I wouldn’t think the gap has closed, or didn’t today, at least.
I confess I didn’t give the defense a lot of attention. no one stood out to me aside from williams. i saw euclid cummings and izaan cross make a play or two. the times i checked, nealy and drummond played with the first group, Hunt-Days with the second.
jacket man – it’s true that neither nesbitt nor washington had much experience when they took over. the difference is that they weren’t competing against anybody who had experience, which is the case with days and lee. i’d agree it’s not a given that washington will start vs. virginia tech, but i’d be surprised if he didn’t.

Tokyo jacket

April 7th, 2012
4:11 pm

Jacket Man, I think bringing up Nesbitt is moot. Other than Shaw, he was the only QB we still had on the roster when CPJ came to Tech. Whom did TW beat out for QB? With Shaw’s departure, he was the only QB with any practice reps in the system.

How many freshman QBs do you know that have led their team to any kind of championship? It doesn’t happen much. By having TW’s experience in game management, we’ll be in better shape than having a less experienced, more athletic/better passing “kid” at the helm. Again, I think Vad Lee or Synjyn Days will have to REALLY outplay TW to unseat him.

I do agree with you on one thing though – this is a huge audition, especially for Days. If he doesn’t hold off Vad Lee, he’s not in the QB rotation anymore. He’ll be playing AB, S, or even WR. If Days and Lee look good, I’d expect someone else to transition to AB or at least redshirt.

BigTimeTECHFan

April 7th, 2012
4:27 pm

Thanks Ken, great update.
Nice to hear Perkins made some nice runs. He doen’t have to close much grown on Sims, he need to secure the 2nd sport, he will get carries Lyons got last year and chnace to prove himself.

Bostic could be Tech’s Percy Harvin type if Tech thows the ball more, he got some quicks.
Sounds like Godhigh is making some plays, nice to see a walk-on do so well.

FROM YELLOW TO GREEN JACKET

April 7th, 2012
4:36 pm

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Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
4:44 pm

GO KUCH !!!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
4:51 pm

WOW, Kuch just BARELY missed a bird on 11 that would have put him alone at the top

WnE

April 7th, 2012
4:58 pm

re:
. The first public competition between Georgia Tech backup quarterbacks Synjyn Days and Vad Lee provided evidence of both players’ potential. It also showed there’s still distance between them and starter Tevin Washington.
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Thanks for honest unbiased reporting Ken, from reading practice reports on some of the GT-themed message boards you’d think that Vad Lee was the 2nd coming of RG-III, one guy wrote that “Vad had developed into a prolific passer during his RS-year.” and hinted that Tevin Washington is GT’s lame-duck QB that is sitting by idly until he loses his starting job.

Just goes to show how much those guys on those MBs know about what they see on the field.

Any injuries or updates on DL play?

jadams

April 7th, 2012
5:01 pm

Thanks for the updates Ken. Good Job

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
5:27 pm

Ken, was there any special teams play today? I would assume they did something. Any thoughts?

yeller bug

April 7th, 2012
5:33 pm

Go Kuch!

Nice work again Ken!

Pistol vs Shotgun is based on the position of the QB. If the QB is the deepest in the backfield it’s a shotgun (long barrel from center to QB). If the RB is behind the QB vice beside or slightly in front, then it’s a pistol. I’m glad to see that wrinkle being tested.

Who’s to say CPJ won’t rotate QBs similar to wildcat scenarios in the NFL. TW will be the main starter, but I expect series with either Days or Lee—maybe in the pistol or something to mix things up. I’d like to see CPJ implement a hurry up/no huddle offense too. Change pace, change QBs, keep the opponent’s D off balance. We need to find some players who can catch the ball though. If we can’t catch, there’s no point in throwing.

NiquePhotog

April 7th, 2012
5:37 pm

Super,

They ran 2 or 3 kickoffs and a few punts. I believe it was Zenon that had an outstanding return, can’t remember if it was a punt or kickoff though.

I believe all but one field goal was made.

Ghost

April 7th, 2012
5:40 pm

Tokyo Jacket, The tech bone is a service academy option offense, Mayer radically changed his offense after 1 season at Florida to incorporate a TE and a fullback, Meyer was smart enough to realize his version of the spread he ran at Utah, wouldn’t work against bigger faster SEC defenses.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
5:46 pm

Thanks, Photog

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
5:48 pm

Ghost, although I am not against any kinds of variations, I still contend that CPJ’s basic O CAN succeed…..BUT the Tech D has to step it up to allow that to happen on a consistent basis.

BLT

April 7th, 2012
5:53 pm

Yet he won a MNC Ghost.

BLT

April 7th, 2012
6:02 pm

Ghost, I assume you mean Urban Meyer.

HighTech

April 7th, 2012
6:06 pm

WnE

April 7th, 2012
4:58 pm

Thanks for honest unbiased reporting Ken, from reading practice reports on some of the GT-themed message boards you’d think that Vad Lee was the 2nd coming of RG-III, one guy wrote that “Vad had developed into a prolific passer during his RS-year.” and hinted that Tevin Washington is GT’s lame-duck QB that is sitting by idly until he loses his starting job.
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Hinted? More fabrications and outright lies from Gollum.

You must have thought Vad Lee was something to stalk him on Twitter and try to convince him not to sign with Tech.

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Just goes to show how much those guys on those MBs know about what they see on the field.

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It must have hurt your feelings to be banned from trolling the message boards.

NiquePhotog

April 7th, 2012
6:07 pm

Those SEC defenses are just so BIG and so FAST! There’s absolutely no way a team like Boise, or MSU, or UCF, or Colorado could stand a chance against the super-humans that make up the SEC….

Dawg48

April 7th, 2012
6:10 pm

Phil Mickelson is on fire.

HighTech

April 7th, 2012
6:14 pm

Careful, NiquePhotog…dawgfan or Rick James will accuse you of living vicariously through someone. lol.

HighTech

April 7th, 2012
6:19 pm

Ken…out of three quarterbacks, who threw the ball better. That is, who, if any, threw tight spirals and catchable passes?

Dawg48

April 7th, 2012
6:23 pm

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
6:35 pm

GREAT finish for Kuch after fading over the past few holes

HighTech

April 7th, 2012
6:36 pm

Thanks, Dawg48. That was a good synopsis. There may be a passing game in our future.

Vad Lee

- By far the best passer on the team

- Was throwing a tight sprial

- Had a bunch of nice passes down field

- Scored two touchdowns running…one long and one short

- Turned a 10 yard run into a 40 or 50 with a nice cut he made

- Got some snaps with the ones

- Is still having some isssues running the option

- Working on making the right reads

- Overall had good day and impressed me

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
6:36 pm

Good possibility of Kuch and Bubba being paired tomorrow. Could there be any better name for a dwag than Bubba? LOL

Dawg48

April 7th, 2012
6:38 pm

SS, I guess you know who I’m pulling for.

Dawg48

April 7th, 2012
6:39 pm

Fred Couples is falling apart.

Dawg48

April 7th, 2012
6:40 pm

Nice shot by Bubba.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
6:42 pm

48, based on the response to Kuch’s last shot, he’s more a fan fav in Augusta than Bubba. He won the hearts of Augusta fans when he was paired with Tiger as an amateur back in ‘98 and did so good. I doubt that most in Augusta, other than the die-hard dwags, even know where Bubba went to school

BigTimeTECHFan

April 7th, 2012
6:44 pm

Even the dawg fans in the crowd love KUCH.
He’s one of those guys even biggest rivals like.
Nice day,he’s in contention.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 7th, 2012
6:44 pm

Kuch lipped too many putts today—-11, 12, 13, and 15. The bird on 18 made up for it though

Dawg48

April 7th, 2012
6:45 pm

SS, prob so. It would make a good group for us Georgia natives.