Mock drafts send Tech’s Hill to Houston, S.F.

If the mock drafts are to be believed, former Georgia Tech wide receiver Stephen Hill is going to be either a Houston Texan or San Francisco 49er. I don’t put a great deal of credence in mock drafts; it seems like they tend to mirror one anther and rely on conventional wisdom, which isn’t usually how teams actually pick. Plus, one surprise pick at the top or middle of the actual first round can change everything down the stream.

Regardless, what I take from it is that Hill will likely go in the first round or early in the second, which, as I’ve written before, is remarkable considering that his draft evaluation said that he didn’t have the potential to go in the first three rounds.

The logic with Houston is that wide receiver is considered a “need” position. Starters Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter will both turn 31 before the season starts. Johnson has missed 12 games in the past two seasons. The 49ers had needs at wide receiver, but signed Randy Moss and Mario Manningham, and re-signed Ted Ginn Jr. Moss is obviously a question mark and Ginn has 31 catches in the past two seasons with San Francisco, so one could say the need is still present.

An aggregation:

On nfl.com, three have Hill going at No. 26 to Houston, another slots him with San Francisco at No. 30 and one doesn’t have him in the first round.

Sports Illustrated’s Don Banks gives Hill to San Francisco. ESPN’s Mel Kiper also pegs Hill for the 49ers, as does his colleague Todd McShay, who wrote that Hill had “one of the most impressive combine workouts I’ve ever seen from a receiver.” (Both ESPN mock drafts are behind a pay wall.)

Two more mocks on cbssports.com place Hill in San Francisco and out of the first round.

Wes Bunting of the National Football Post also pegs Hill for the Texans, as does John McClain, the NFL writer for the Houston Chronicle.

He’s generally considered the fourth receiver in the draft, after Justin Blackmon from Oklahoma State, Notre Dame’s Michael Floyd and Baylor’s Kendall Wright.

The first round of the draft is April 26.

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

518 comments Add your comment

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
10:34 am

First again?

Rick James

March 30th, 2012
10:51 am

He’ll be a much better pro than he was at Tech..Best of luck

lucky21

March 30th, 2012
10:54 am

As much as we could have used his ability this year good luck to hill

JasonGT

March 30th, 2012
10:55 am

This is what GT recruiting needs badly. UGA gets a lot of in state players that are fans and dream of playing at UGA while GT needs to convince players to come. Taking average talent players and putting them in the first round of the NFL draft is a huge selling point.

Ken Sugiura

March 30th, 2012
10:56 am

well done, GT Lee. you’re on fire.

FL Jacket

March 30th, 2012
10:56 am

1) LOL @ Rick James for being dumb

2) ” ESPN’s Mel Kiper also pegs Hill for the 49ers, as does his colleague Todd McShay, who wrote that Hill had “one of the most impressive combine workouts I’ve ever seen from a receiver.”

– In other words McShay and Kiper had to eat their words about yet another GT receiver they pegged for the 3rd or 4th round because “he plays in an option offense”

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
10:57 am

hope he does well wherever he ends up

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
10:59 am

FLJ also check out James Murphy’s Convergence CD…particularly “Touching the Earth”….it’s on youtube, BTW………

Burdell

March 30th, 2012
11:00 am

Is there a more creepy looking guy in CFB “journalism” than Mel Kiper?

…but I do enjoy watching them argue about scouting. You can tell they don’t like each other.

Good luck to Stephen in the draft…hope he can stay healthy in the NFL. Looking forward to one of the young guys stepping it up this fall.

George Stein

March 30th, 2012
11:02 am

Stephen Hill, like all players, is responsible for own success, Jason. Georgia Tech should not get any more credit for his success than any other school gets for the success of their players.

FL Jacket

March 30th, 2012
11:02 am

GT Lee…thanks I will

George Stein

March 30th, 2012
11:03 am

Morley Safer has Mel Kiper beat by a country mile, Burdell.

HighTech

March 30th, 2012
11:05 am

Burdell…Gorilla Biscuit said Mel Kiper looks like a third string vampire. lol.

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
11:08 am

3rd string vampire…….”that’s funny, I don’t care who you are” to quote Larry the Cable Guy

FL Jacket

March 30th, 2012
11:10 am

George…

Good point, the NFL will find you if you are an elite athlete. However, I think the point Jason was making (in a roundabout way) was that in no way is Tech’s offense or coaching staff a “detriment” to a potential NFL career…

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
11:12 am

pot brownies for lunch, anyone?

George Stein

March 30th, 2012
11:13 am

Oh, okay. Then I’d agree with that, FLJ.

Mel Kiper was not an ELITE VAMPIRE RECRUIT. He’s only Third String in the Crappy Vampire Conference. Coach Kung Fu Panda needs to Recruit Elite Vampires if he wants to Compete with Fox Sports and CBS Sports. The Triple SLOPtion of ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPN News will not get you ready for the NFL and Cost you Millions.

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:21 am

Boy, the trolls have been amazingly silent in light of the latest scandal in Athens. I actually read through the UGA blog last night, and the comments were hilarious (unintentionally, of course). Half of the posters were trying to make excuses and the other half want Richt gone today. What a hoot!!!

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
11:22 am

but Dracula failed the camera test…..

WnE

March 30th, 2012
11:24 am

re:
JasonGT
March 30th, 2012
10:55 am

This is what GT recruiting needs badly. UGA gets a lot of in state players that are fans and dream of playing at UGA while GT needs to convince players to come. Taking average talent players and putting them in the first round of the NFL draft is a huge selling point.

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This is where many GT fans show how delusional they are in their idolatry of Coach PeeJay.

Stephen Hill was never an “average talent player”; he was 25+ foot long jumper out of HS that also had a 41-in. vertical leap out of HS at 6-4 190lbs.

Stephen Hill was always an elite athlete based on his Track background, he just happened to keep his speed, explosion, and leaping ability after growing to 215lbs.

Basically, S. Hill is a early Round NFL Draft candidate based on the athleticism from his track background moreso than anything he “learned” as a WR playing in GT’s Offense.

Many NFL scouts think that Hill has learned more and polished his WR skills more in pre-draft workouts (thanks to Terrance Mathis), than he did in playing for 3 yrs. at GT and diving at kneecaps every play.

Trying to take Hill’s success and boot-strap that individual success to anything associated with GT FB under Coach Kung Fu Panda is highly deceptive at a minimum, and in all likelihood an intentional misrepresentation of the facts, basically an outright lie.

CPJ has recruited so poorly, that his supporters feel the need to play fast & loose with the facts to make him look like he is a better coach than he really is.

CPJ did absolutely nothing to help get S. Hill to where he is right now!

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
11:26 am

weenie, have you been out smoking with the UGA players?

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:29 am

I do believe Wienie has changed his tune. When Hill declared early, he was a terrible athlete who had no chance in the NFL at all. Now he’s a great athlete whom CPJ couldn’t coach. You might want to try for some consistency in your remarks in the future, DUMB AZZ.

GT Lee

March 30th, 2012
11:30 am

weeeeeeeeenie, the fries are burning and the men’s room needs cleaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:33 am

Wienie, quit trying to smoke those hashbrowns. Rambo has got some brownies that will do more to keep you out of touch with reality.

WnE

March 30th, 2012
11:35 am

You’re lying Supersize, I have never written anything about Hill being a terrible athlete.

I did say that Hill & his father made their decision because they’d rather “roll the dice” on their pre-draft NFL workouts rather than trust Coach Kung Fu Panda’s Offense for one more yr. to improve Hill’s draft stock.

That right there is the ultimate criticism of Coach Fish Fry’s gimmicky Triple-SLOPtion Offense, a guy with around 30-catches over a season would rather run the RISK of pre-draft workouts to get him some NFL-money rather than one more yr. of playing for you, you being Coach Peejay.

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:37 am

Wienie, now YOU are the one who is lying. You TRASHED Hill from the get go.

FL Jacket

March 30th, 2012
11:44 am

WnE…

We know you are upset you missed your chance to Tweet with Stephen Hill…

5150 UOAD

March 30th, 2012
11:44 am

It is good to see Wienie KNOWS his name.

5150 UOAD

March 30th, 2012
11:46 am

WnE when are you going to come meet some of the Bloggers before a Tech home game? I really want to see your Tech Ring in person.

FL Jacket

March 30th, 2012
11:46 am

WnE…you are correct about something though

“Basically, S. Hill is a early Round NFL Draft candidate based on the athleticism from his track background moreso than anything he “learned” as a WR playing in GT’s Offense.”

The truth is, the NFL honestly doesn’t care what system you played in. They just care whether you are an athlete, and if you can carry that athleticism onto the field. That goes for ANY WR in the NFL draft…

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:47 am

Yeah, Wienie, why don’t you come meet us at the T-Night game? If we tailgate, maybe you can bring some hashbrowns or brownies.

5 star recruits, 2 star results

March 30th, 2012
11:49 am

Careful super, you are heading down a rabbit hole. It’s a trap!!! And while what you say is true FL, you lost WNE when you used the word truth. He stopped reading after that.

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:51 am

5 star, what rabbit hole?

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:52 am

Enter your comments here

5 star recruits, 2 star results

March 30th, 2012
11:52 am

Trying to have a discussion with WNE.

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:53 am

Has he got some shrooms to bring too. They were popular down Alice’s rabbit hole, weren’t they?

5150 UOAD

March 30th, 2012
11:53 am

Are there Playboy Bunnies down that Rabbit Hole?

5 star recruits, 2 star results

March 30th, 2012
11:53 am

Excuse me, a RATIONAL discussion.

fuzzybee

March 30th, 2012
11:54 am

Stephen Hill, legs of gold, hands of stone.

5 star recruits, 2 star results

March 30th, 2012
11:54 am

Don’t think he has anything but shrooms. It would certainly explain alot. Don’t think WNE has been anywhere near a woman, much less a playboy bunny.

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:54 am

5 star, NOBODY can actually have a discussion with Wienie. When somebody points out a fallacy or a promise never kept (like never posting again if caught in a lie), then he just ignores them or disappears for a few hours or days.

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
11:56 am

Maybe he can bring that lottery ticket too. Who knows, but it might not still be valid.

WnE

March 30th, 2012
11:57 am

re:
WnE…you are correct about something though

“Basically, S. Hill is a early Round NFL Draft candidate based on the athleticism from his track background moreso than anything he “learned” as a WR playing in GT’s Offense.”

The truth is, the NFL honestly doesn’t care what system you played in. They just care whether you are an athlete, and if you can carry that athleticism onto the field. That goes for ANY WR in the NFL draft…
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The 3 WRs ranked ahead of Hill in this draft all have lesser athletic measurables than Hill but they do have better stats from offenses that more closely resemble Pro-Style Offenses.

Basically, smaller, slower guys are ranked ahead of Hill because they learned different things and played in different offenses than what CPJ runs.

Had Hill played in the same type of offense as one of those guys ranked ahead of him, then one could reasonably deduce that Hill would have been the #1 WR in this draft class had he played for a different HC in a different system.

This draft class is worthy of note because this is considered a better than average draft class for WRs with 4 or 5 getting 1st round or early 2nd round draft grades.

SoCal_GT_Fan

March 30th, 2012
11:58 am

Stephen Hill was rated by Scouts.com as a 4-star and by Rivals as a 3-star. Recruited by Boston College, Miss, Miss St, UNC, UAB, and UCF. Of course, he wasn’t recruited by the big boys so OBVIOUSLY he wasn’t an ELITE recruit. I’m sure a lot of people saw that “UAB and UCF” were recruiting him and said, “OH we beat UAB and UCF for him. Boo hoo.” Anyways, its awesome to see that Stephen Hill is thought of as a 1st round talent. I still think he’ll end up in the 3rd round when all is said and done. Remember, he is still seen as a “project”. But a project with TONS of potential.

For those who want to know whether GT has recruited any “ELITE” recruits during CPJ’s era, I would assume by “ELITE” you are referring to someone who is rated a four-star player. That’s what I’m going to be assuming and here’s the list that I can give ya (ranking by position):
omoregie uzzi: No. 9 rated guard in the nation by Scout.com and No. 19 by Rivals. Recruited by Bama, UGA, UVA, Auburn,
J.C. Lanier: No. 31 rated by Rivals for DT and No. 25 by Scout.com. Recruited by Clemson
Ryan Ayers: No.25 rated CB by Rivals, No. 16 by Scout.com. Recruited by Bama, Auburn, UGA, Oklahoma, Florida, to name a few
Louis Young: No. 15 by Rivals for CB, and No. 11 by Scout.com. Recruited by Michigan, Iowa, Miami, Nebraska, VaTech, Stanford, UCLA to name a few
Denzel McCoy: No. 18 by Rivals for DT and No. 53 by Scout.com. Recruited by Bama, UGA, LSU, FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, Auburn, Cal, and etc etc etc
Anthony Williams: No. 13 by Rivals.com for DTs, No. 65 for Scout.com. Recruited by Auburn, LSU, FSU, Stanford

I’m sure there were more 3-stars who were recruited by the big boys as well. Just don’t have the time to look that up as well.

5 star recruits, 2 star results

March 30th, 2012
11:59 am

True super, thinks he’s the smartest man in the room, but at his core he’s just a coward and a liar. Now I will no longer entertain any more discussion about the weenie, he’s already sucked enough life out of this discussion.

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
12:02 pm

SoCal, I don’t keep up with recruiting by other schools enough to know what really happened, but when Stephen Hill was being recruited by Tech, the UGA bloggers on here sure wanted him in Athens. I would assume, based on that, that UGA was actually recruiting him too.

FL Jacket

March 30th, 2012
12:06 pm

WnE…LOL @ circular arguments

“Had Hill played in the same type of offense as one of those guys ranked ahead of him, then one could reasonably deduce that Hill would have been the #1 WR in this draft class had he played for a different HC in a different system.”

OK…so why didn’t Alabama, LSU, Clemson, Florida, UGA, Tennessee, Auburn, FSU and other top ranked schools beat down this kid’s door when it was time to recruit him? If it was so obvious that a kid with this much athleticism, size, and ability was 1st round NFL draft material why did all these places (that sell putting kids in the NFL) not go after Stephen Hill?

It’s impossible for you to say what is obvious here…

kris

March 30th, 2012
12:08 pm

that is great that HILL will go in the first round just wish we had another one to step up and take his place. It has been great watching Calvin then Bay Bay and then Stephen. But now it has stopped. Why can we not have a recruiter that can dazzle someone enough to sign with GT? Perhaps we should ask those 3 what made them come to GT? The answer probably would be Giff Smith for the most part. At least Hill was on CPJ’s watch. Just know GT has had some awesome players in the last 7 – 8 years why can we not have them now?

Supersize that order, mutt

March 30th, 2012
12:10 pm

kris, Tech signed a receiver this recruiting season who looks pretty damn good on paper. We won’t know until he hits the field though.

SoCal_GT_Fan

March 30th, 2012
12:11 pm

Supersize: I don’t doubt that UGA recruited him as well. I just listed the schools that offered based on Scout and Rivals. Perhaps I should have reworded it that way…..