Paul Johnson Q&A, Part 4
Fourth segment of interview with Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson. This portion deals largely with the quarterbacks, including the upcoming competition in spring practice.
Q: Going into spring practice, where do you have to get better?
A: We’ve got to get better at everything. It’s like when you watch the thing, we weren’t as good at running the triple (option) as we need to be by any stretch. Certainly, we need to be more efficient throwing and the same things every year. I don’t know that it’ll ever change. It’s always going to be like that.
Defensively, you (have to) get better at rushing the passer, being consistent tackling, better in special teams. There’s no any area I can say, ‘Oh, wow, we’re really good there.’ We were pretty good offensively on third downs. I think we led the country or were second (in third-down conversion rate). We probably were in the top 3 or 4 in (fewest offensive) three-and-outs. That’s always a positive. You’d like to get more three-and-outs on defense.
Q: The problems in the passing game, would you say it was a system-wide matter?
A: I don’t know if you can say it’s system-wide or not. We were pretty efficient the first four or five games.
Q: I mean, would you say it was system-wide as opposed to just one player or a position group?
A: Talent, too. I think as the competition level got better, we weren’t quite as good. We could do it against some people and other people, we struggled. Sometimes, it’s matchups and different things. You’re always looking for what will help you in that area. Can you tweak things? Can you do some things that will help you?
Q: How close is Tevin Washington to his ceiling?
A: I don’t know. I think he got a lot better. I think he’ll have to continue to get better or he’ll get passed. But he’s had a knack for doing that. I don’t think anybody thought he would be the quarterback last year and he didn’t let the guys beat him out. I’m sure in their mind, they’re coming this spring to beat him out right now. There’s probably two or three that think they can beat him out. (But) they’ve got to do it. And we’d be a better team if they do. And it’ll make him better fighting ‘em off. Competition’s a great thing.
Q: I imagine the quarterback competition is one you’re looking forward to a lot, especially given the hand you have in coaching those players.
A: I have not had the time to work with those guys like I have in the past. It’s something I miss. I’d like to get more time to do that. Brian (Bohannon) is pretty much coaching them. There’s so much going on (as head coach). You can stick your head in now and then, and during the game, I call the pays and I do that, but during the week, I don’t get to spend a lot of time with them, not like you’d like to.
Q: Do you have any plans to change that?
A: You always have the intention of it changing, but part of being the head coach is you’ve got a lot of other duties. You’re not the quarterback coach. You’ve got a lot of things that happen, a lot of things you’re dealing with. That’s why you hire a guy to do it and you’ve got to trust them to do it.
Q: I remember you telling a story about (former Georgia Southern coach) Erk Russell telling you after you’d become head coach to work with the quarterbacks, because that’s what you do best…
A: I watch practice every day and I’m around the drills and I’m always watching. If I need to go get involved, I will, but Brian’s been doing it now for four years and he knows what he’s doing. He knows what we’re trying to accomplish. You have to trust that he’s going to do a good job with them. I think he does.
Q: Where do Synjyn Days and Vad Lee have to get better?
A: Just get more consistent and be better. They’re both athletic and they bring something to the table. Synjyn’s a really strong runner, big. Needs to take better care of the ball, be consistent that way. I think for Vad, it’s just playing, learning the system. I would hope that he’s going to look a lot different this spring than you would expect a true freshman to come in in the fall.
You’ve got Dennis Andrews in here now. He’s going to be a little bit behind, then you’ve got Justin (Thomas), who’ll come in in the fall. Hopefully, this spring, we can sort out the Vad-Synjyn deal and know where that stands. And as compared to Tevin, we’ll see where they stand.
If both of ‘em beat him out, then we’ll see where you go, but you’d hope within 15 days, they’ll start to give you some idea of how that’ going to unfold.
Q: Are you hoping that after spring practice, you’ll have a good feel for who’s going to be the guy?
A: I don’t know if in 15 practices, if you’re going to know that, but certainly, you’ll be a lot closer to it than you would otherwise. What we’ve got to do is find a way in the spring to make sure that we give ‘em enough reps to get ‘em a chance to do it. Tevin’s played a lot; he might be the guy that gets less reps because he knows the system.
When we scrimmage on Saturday mornings, he may get a series or two with the [first string]. We’ll see how it goes. But you’ve got to let the other two guys play if you’re going to find out who’s going to be the better of the two.
Q: There was a school of thought that you might have been better served if Lee had gotten playing time early. I’m wondering what you thought about that.
A: We were one penalty away from probably winning our division and going to the ACC championship. At what point would have put him in? The other kid (Washington) was leading the country in passing efficiency for six weeks. He was 6-0. Are you going to take him out and put a true freshman in?
You’re not going to waste a year of eligibility to put him in in the fourth quarter when you’re ahead 70-20. I mean, I’m not. It’s like, in my mind, we didn’t even get Synjyn in enough. There’s no way you’re going to get three of them enough reps.
Thanks for reading. Part 5, which I think will be the last one, will be posted Wednesday morning.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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Wal-Mart Retards
March 6th, 2012
6:11 am
First?
Wal-Mart Retards
March 6th, 2012
6:12 am
Sho’ nuff!
Biff Pocoroba
March 6th, 2012
6:29 am
I’d have more confidence in Bohannon if he could teach someone the forward pass. Until someone can complete a few passes consistently, CPJ needs to spend more time working with them.
ToeMeetsLeather
March 6th, 2012
6:36 am
Would love to see the spring play out like this; Lee makes tremendous progress and Washington embraces the mentor role and is ready to enter the game at the drop of a hat. Days accepts a move to A-Back to begin the the transition to take over for Big O after Orwin’s big senior season.(or to the safety position to play behind his LB brother). Then Lee sees in the fall how tough it is going to be to hold on to his spot in 2013 when Thomas wows everyone in August. What say you?
ToeMeetsLeather
March 6th, 2012
6:41 am
Don’t we have the technology to fast forward through the summer to Labor Day after March Madness and the Masters?
Tokyo jacket
March 6th, 2012
7:14 am
Anyone who thinks that TW didn’t improve at all last year needs to look at this: “The other kid (Washington) was leading the country in passing efficiency for six weeks. He was 6-0. Are you going to take him out and put a true freshman in?”
He had a backslide last year (as did the whole team). He’ll be ready to go at the start of this year.
Ken, any questions as to whether or not we’ll be seeing more shotgun like we did in the bowl game?
Alabama Jack
March 6th, 2012
7:22 am
Nice job, Ken. Thanks.
SA
March 6th, 2012
7:37 am
A lot better for tevin? Now if that isn’t coaches talk, I don’t know what is. I saw NO improvement over the 4-5 games from 2010. In teh uga game, he played much worse.
Tokyo jacket
March 6th, 2012
7:42 am
TML, I gotta disagree with you about starting Lee. I’d rather see a productive senior year from TW with Lee learning on the sidelines so that he can be put right in a successful situation when he takes over after TW’s graduation. Other than that, I like your scenario of Days moving to A-back and probably taking over a starting spot, or at least getting in the rotation, come fall. All he has to learn is how to block. The kid can clearly run.
Tokyo jacket
March 6th, 2012
7:50 am
SA, you’re missing the point dude. You have to look at the body of work. He played lights out in the first 4 games of the season, albeit against lesser competition. He played good enough to win against Utah, but there was some questionable playcalling there, and finally, don’t forget the number of drops that Mr. Hill and our A-backs had at times. I saw marked improvement especially in the 10-20 yard passing range – a lot more touch (sometimes too much) and putting the ball usually where it wasn’t going to be intercepted.
SA
March 6th, 2012
7:56 am
Tokyo the competition he faced in the first 6 games was a joke.
You saw the true TW in the second half of the season and it was dreadful. The end of the 2010 season had vt duke uga and air force. Very similar to the end of 2011 and I saw no improvement in him against those teams and the scoreboard reflects that too. His numbers do as well. Did much poorer against uga last year than in 2010. Where’s the upside?
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:01 am
SA…
Is TW not allowed struggle? He had great passing games against Duke and Utah in the 2nd half of the season…and made some pretty good throws agains Clemson. I believe one of his TD passes was dropped.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:05 am
Ken…
Do you think the “one penalty away from winning the division” and going to the ACC Championship was…
A) Attaochu’s PF against Virginia Tech, or…
B) the block in the back against Virginia that negated TD in the 2nd half?
Max Sizemore
March 6th, 2012
8:15 am
Those folks who believe Tech should improve its passing game simply don’t understand that to run Tech’s option offense effectively you cannot devote much time to the passing game. That’s the way it is and always has been. Do Army or Navy throw it well? Did Air Force, under DeBerry? Folks, it’s not gonna happen. So get over it. Be happy with the third-down conversion rate.
gt4ever
March 6th, 2012
8:22 am
Just be happy that we can hang our hat on being the number 1 passing team in the country after 6 games….. Yikes…
Paul in NH
March 6th, 2012
8:23 am
CPJ is referring to Attaochu’s PF against VT.
If GT had beaten UVA and still lost to VT they would not have won the division. They needed to beat VT.
gt4ever
March 6th, 2012
8:23 am
@FL Jacket
He is STILL throwing the kid under the bus! Yeah, that one penalty cost us a trip to the ACC game…. What an IDIOT!
SA
March 6th, 2012
8:26 am
Wow really you’re bringing up passing against dook? Good grief.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:26 am
Paul…
Thanks, I imagine its what he was referring to as well. I know CPJ downplayed it during the weeks following the VPI game. However, he’s the first person to talk about how emotional kids can be, and how it’s really easy for them to lose concentration.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:30 am
SA…
Obviously you only want to talk about when he screws up instead of the games he doesn’t (like 11/15 against Utah)…so let’s leave it there.
Not Disappointed!
March 6th, 2012
8:31 am
Great questions and answers! Good Job Ken!
Go Jackets!
SA
March 6th, 2012
8:40 am
Max
If you’re bringing in a new kid for the first time, yes. Not a 2nd or 3rd year. Techs passing problems stem from a qn who doesn’t have better arm strength and lack of practice or experience.
Navy qb, ricky dobbs, who is from atlanta, threw for 1500 yards in 2010. Had just 6 ints and a completion % of 55% compared to 49% for tevin. The point is when you get a qb like this one who can run the option and pass with some consistentcy, then that means the option game will be that much better. Navy doesn’t get near the caliber of players as we do. Yet this qb led them to a great season.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
8:42 am
re:
Q: Going into spring practice, where do you have to get better?
A: We’ve got to get better at everything. It’s like when you watch the thing, we weren’t as good at running the triple (option) as we need to be by any stretch. Certainly, we need to be more efficient throwing and the same things every year. I don’t know that it’ll ever change. It’s always going to be like that.
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There’s an old saying in coaching that Mike Leach formerly of Texas Tech likes to use:
EITHER YOU’RE COACHING IT OR YOU’RE ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN!
It is embarrassing for CPJ to make $2.5 million per yr. and then sit here and tell the GT fanbase that he doesn’t know “that it’ll ever change” (GT passing more efficiently)………”it’s always going to be like that”
IF it’s always going to be like that, then WE(GT Fans) need to ask is CPJ the right man for the friggin’ JOB?
I wonder did CPJ tell Vad Lee & Justin Thomas this BEFORE he recruited them:
“Certainly, we need to be more efficient throwing and the same things every year. I don’t know that it’ll ever change. It’s always going to be like that.”
I wonder HOW Vad & Justin feel AFTER reading those comments above?
Does anyone believe that a HC with that kind of out-look towards the passing game, is really going to do what is necessary to improve GT’s Passing Game?
No wonder CPJ doesn’t like doing Interviews & media stuff, he really gets EXPOSED for how incompetent he is when he does these types of in-depth interviews.
My question to all you CPJ-boot-licking-toadies is, is CPJ allowing it to happen or is HE COACHING IT?
dawgfan
March 6th, 2012
8:47 am
Great interview. What I take from this is that Georgia Tech needs to work on playing more bad teams. That seems to solve most of their problems. Passing efficiency goes up. The defense plays better. Tevin Washington isn’t completely in over his head. Georgia Tech is just an all round better football team when it is playing crappy teams. Paul Johnson is a genius. Coaches everywhere must be reading this thinking “Why in the hell didn’t I think of that?!?!?!”
Thanks.
SA
March 6th, 2012
8:47 am
You act like Utah is some elite team? They were a 7-5 team in a weeaaak pac 12 league.
I do agree he had a good passing game against the utes. Which made me even more confused when we ran the ball in the 4th qtr against them and stopped passing. That is what cost us the game.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
8:50 am
re:
Q: The problems in the passing game, would you say it was a system-wide matter?
A: I don’t know if you can say it’s system-wide or not. We were pretty efficient the first four or five games.
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This Q & A shows complete disrespect & CONTEMPT for all the GT fanbase!
CPJ should KNOW that the quality of the competition that GT played the first 4 or 5-games of the season is no way to FAIRLY judge GT’s passing game, CPJ must think that the GT fanbase is STUPID!
Only a boot-licking-toady would read that Q & A and not be pi$$3d at CPJ for that bull-cr@p answer.
For this guy to say that we passed efficiently the first 4 or 5 games when talking about our passing game woes shows that CPJ doesn’t give a rats *$$ about what the fans think or want.
You can get angry at ME all you want but YOUR HERO, GENIUS HC just disrespected you worshipers much worse than I ever could!
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:52 am
WnE…still waiting on a response.
Please explain the logic of decrying CPJ for his inability to bring in top-notch recruits, and then harrass top-notch recruits into not coming to Tech?
..
..
“I wonder did CPJ tell Vad Lee & Justin Thomas this BEFORE he recruited them:”
Why don’t YOU tell us what Vad Lee said?
ramblingbuzz
March 6th, 2012
8:56 am
Is GT better off with CPJ or better off without him? Depends on who you ask. However, some of his answers stick in my craw.
ramblingbuzz
March 6th, 2012
8:58 am
Like the one about being one penalty away from the championship game. He sounds very defensive.
Tokyo jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:58 am
SA, the fact remains that TW played well enough to win a conference championship. He played well enough to win against UVA, VT, and Utah. The team did not win those games however. What I look for in TW is improvement from 11 to 12 that turns those three “could haves” to “dids.”
Sizemore, which of the teams you’ve listed has gone to a BCS bowl? Bottom line is that you have to have a respectable passing attack. If you think you can’t run the option without at least respectable passing, look at (Meyer’s/Tebow’s) UF, Oregon, and WVU.
Dallas Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:58 am
Good Job Ken. The majority of Tech Fans love Coach Johnson and I am one of them. The guys who get on here to bitch about the coach are not being realistic.I love the Triple Option. The offense is not a problem. I do agree we must get better on defense and of course special teams but most of us support Coach Johnson 100%. Go Jackets. THWG!
Jacket fan in Wisconsin
March 6th, 2012
9:02 am
Dawgfan….What ???? Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Ole Miss even Tennessee lately………..Bwahahah
dawgfan
March 6th, 2012
9:02 am
ramblingbuzz, that’s the sort of thing that Tech fans love to hear. They love to hear about how close they were to doing this or that. Georgia Tech football holds the NCAA record for moral victories. Look it up.
Jacket Fan
March 6th, 2012
9:04 am
Fans would rather see Vad play QB this coming Fall and experience the learning curve than to go through the season we had last year with Tevin. Vad will make more of an exciting QB for GT. That’s what will sell the tickets and keep ALUMNI happy!
WnE
March 6th, 2012
9:06 am
re:
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:52 am
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You must really like beating DEAD HORSES, those 8-12 tweets were discussed ad nauseam, they were made 15 MONTHS AGO, and have been talked about in various blogs and on various message boards MONTHS AGO.
I will tell you that a certain Recruit (VL) was critical of GT’s offense during the Indep. Bowl and hinted that GT was going to change their Offense for him, then I merely posed a few questions, and then he became “whiny & fragile” and claimed my few questions were bothering him, so I wished him luck, end of story.
If you’re late to the party, then I’m not doing anything “special” for YOU to satisfy you.
Asked & answered ice-hole, if you want any more responses go and do your research.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
9:09 am
re:
Good Job Ken. The majority of Tech Fans love Coach Johnson and I am one of them. The guys who get on here to bitch about the coach are not being realistic.I love the Triple Option. The offense is not a problem. I do agree we must get better on defense and of course special teams but most of us support Coach Johnson 100%. Go Jackets. THWG!
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The “Offense” is 1-11 vs. top-50 defenses over the last 2 seasons!
The Offense is NOT the problem vs. CRAPPY Teams, but against teams that are at least AVERAGE, we are scoring in the low 20s, and we aren’t winning games vs. “decent defenses” (Top-50).
Fans that think the Offense isn’t the problem, ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM!
Ken Sugiura
March 6th, 2012
9:13 am
Fl Jacket – as Paul said, the Virginia Tech penalty, for the reason paul gave, if no other. he’s made mention of it at least one other time that i can think of.
Jacket fan in Wisconsin
March 6th, 2012
9:14 am
Dawgfan…+ Auburn and Florida this year…..that’s 9 wins UGA should get just by showing up. Point being you can’t always know what strength your schedule is going to be like, except for the cupcakes they ALL ( UGA included ) have every year.So eager to bash Tech…check your own schedule first.
Ken Sugiura
March 6th, 2012
9:14 am
ToeMeetsLeather – i’m not going to say you’re describing the ideal scenario – i’m not sure at this point what would be – but it’s one that isn’t far-fetched.
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
9:15 am
Great insight there dawgfan, all teams tend to look better when playing against lesser competition. I seem to recall some team last year getting all pumped up about a 10 win run only to get smoked in their conference championship game as well as losing a mid level bowl game to a slightly above average opponent. But they looked damn good for those 10 games.
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
9:19 am
Wne, do you really think that CPJ was referring to a mediocre passing game as something that will never change and will always be like that? It was clear that he was referring to the need for those things to improve as the things that will never change. You are pathetic.
SA
March 6th, 2012
9:20 am
Jacketfan
My thoughts too. I don’t mind both TW getting some playing time, but I want to see Vad play too. we know what TW brings to the table. Good kid, decent player but not enough talent to win the big games. He reached his ceiling.
Jacket fan in Wisconsin
March 6th, 2012
9:22 am
5 star….Exactly the point. Even UGA has 7 gimmes on their schedule this year. Including weaker than normal Florida and Auburn that’s 9 wins they should get just by showing up. Point being you can’t always know what your strength of schedule will be , except for the cupcakes they ALL (UGA included) have every year. Dawgfan is so eager to bash Tech, he forgets to check his own schedule…..Bwahahah
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
9:26 am
At least he is consistent in his rhetoric, Wisconsin. He’s on these tech blogs every day, talking the same nonsense. Perhaps instead of dawgfan, his handle should be something along the lines of techhater. Not entirely sure he even follows or enjoys UGA football, seems more obsessed with Tech.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
9:28 am
re:
Q: There was a school of thought that you might have been better served if Lee had gotten playing time early. I’m wondering what you thought about that.
A: We were one penalty away from probably winning our division and going to the ACC championship.
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Wow!
Just WOW!
CPJ breaks the ENTIRE SEASON down to ONE PENALTY IN ONE GAME!
If that’s not THROWING Attachou “under the bus”, then I don’t know what is.
Kinda HARD to Recruit top flight players when you have a Rep of throwing guys under the bus when something goes bad.
A lesson on being a good HC:
Athletes egos are fragile, fair is not what you’re looking for as a HC, what you’re looking for is to keep the Mental stability of your team at a constant high level, and this is how you do it CPJ:
Whenever something goes WRONG, “Me & my Coaching staff didn’t get it done”; and whenever something goes RIGHT, “the PLAYERS came though big-time, they make it easy on us coaches”.
That’s HOW you handle that situation CPJ, you don’t say “we’re one penalty away from the ACC-CG thereby throwing the player that committed the penalty UNDER THE BUS.
And you GT fans wonder why CMR & guys like Saban, Miles, Spurrier can out-Recruit GT & CPJ so easily.
Jacket fan in Wisconsin
March 6th, 2012
9:36 am
5 star…….Really ??? People actually do that ???? Sad……
WnE
March 6th, 2012
9:38 am
re:
Wne, do you really think that CPJ was referring to a mediocre passing game as something that will never change and will always be like that? It was clear that he was referring to the need for those things to improve as the things that will never change. You are pathetic.
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Like I said above:
Either you’re coaching it, OR you’re allowing it to happen!
CPJ has his staff set up so that Coach Bohannon coaches BOTH the B-Backs & the QBs, this is done so that the MESH & the PITCH can be worked on as a PRIORITY over passing mechanics and the Passing Game.
I was the ONLY GT Fan to question this set up back in DEC. 2007 when CPJ was hired, CPJ also had TWO OL-coaches, something that would not have changed if Spencer had not been caught VIOLATING NCAA RULES.
Let’s see; for his first 4 years on campus, CPJ had TWO OL coaches, and the QB coach had to split his time between the B-Backs & the QBs.
With that kind of set-up do you really think that CPJ is serious about TEACHING his QBs good throwing & passing Mechanics, or a good Passing Game?
Quite simply:
Either you’re allowing it to happen, OR you’re coaching it!
Take your pick, but for $2.5 Million per yr. GT isn’t getting their money’s worth!
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
9:40 am
Ken, has Johnson ever indicated how they break out their practice sessions? I know they are allowed 20 hours a week for all football related activities (not sure if that’s inclusive of games and travelling), but I’d be interested to know how much practice time is allocated toward option stuff, passing stuff, and how much time they spend in their position practices. Do you have feel for that?
SA
March 6th, 2012
9:40 am
Wne
PJ is correct. That play completely changed the outcome of the game and the season. Win that game and it’s off to the acc champ game. We were handling vt and that bonehead penalty changed everything. Sometimes it is one play that can change everything. And I am sure JA would admit this.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
9:41 am
Ha! Yeah, Saban and Spurrier are NEVER publicly critical of their players. What the hell planet are you living on, WnE?
dawgfan
March 6th, 2012
9:42 am
A guy who calls himself “5 star recruits, 2 star results” (Gee, I wonder who you are referring to?)says I’M the one that’s obsessed with the in state rival. Sure thing pal. The only thing that I am obsessed with is tormenting you delusional nerds with the stone cold truth. Guilty as charged.
Beating the everloving life out of the Joke By Coke year after year after year=”2 star results.”
Thanks for the ammo Techie.
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
9:48 am
Still did not answer my question, wne. Do you really think that he was asking tech fans to just accept mediocrity or was he implying that a desire to improve is something that never goes away? Real simple.
BigTimeTechFan
March 6th, 2012
9:58 am
Nice interview
Looks like we got a QB battle in spring.
Very nice freshmen class comeing in, plus a lot of last years freshmen red-shirted.
Va Tech to open the season will be fun and motivate the players to practice hard.
Can’t wait
WnE
March 6th, 2012
10:11 am
re:
Ha! Yeah, Saban and Spurrier are NEVER publicly critical of their players. What the hell planet are you living on, WnE?
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Sorry Steinie, but Spurrier is always saying how he needs ” to coach em’ up” whenever one of his teams plays bad, this is true both at UF and USCe.
CMR gets flack for not blaming the players when things go bad.
CPJ is very quick to blame players, “we had the right play, but the players didn’t make the plays” or “the plays were there but didn’t execute”.
CPJ loves being the Genius when things go well, but when things go bad, “the PLAYERS didn’t execute”.
Sorry Stein, but CPJ is much worse than other College HCs when it comes to things like that .
GTBob
March 6th, 2012
10:21 am
And you GT fans wonder why CMR & guys like Saban, Miles, Spurrier can out-Recruit GT & CPJ so easily.
Do you really expect GT to recruit as well as the powerhouse SEC teams (and UGA)?
gtfanfrom1951
March 6th, 2012
10:22 am
why does CMR,Saban, and the old ball coach get more of the “best player” because they are not going to college to get an education their going to get ready for the NFL. They can tell them their lies and keep a kid in school until they are through with them. Its all about the money. Saban will say anything to get a kid then cast him aside.
Ken you did a great job this time I have enjoyed it.
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
10:29 am
My apologies to the room. I have one simple rule, to never read posts by certain handles, as they rarely have anything of value to contribute. Not only did I break that rule by reading a post by WNE, a frequent offender on here, but then I compounded my mistake by trying to argue a point with him. I see he still has no answer for my question, not surprised. I’m done.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
10:30 am
FL Jacket…I think WnE is talking about past discussions like this one…
http://georgiatech.247sports.com/Board/35/D-Rex-Wrecksneffect-trying-to-sabotage-Vad-Lees-recruitment-790060/1
…if you have time to read it.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
10:36 am
re:
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
10:30 am
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Wow!
14-15 months ago, is that the best you got?
Ramblin Man
March 6th, 2012
10:50 am
I like the idea mentioned earlier about Days moving to AB. I think he can be a punisher in that position. I noticed Demon was not mentioned so I assume he will be solely practicing as a DB this year. I think we will see TW start unless Lee blows it out of the water during the spring and summer. This will allow Lee to get rep time without the presure of the #1 slot. The down side is we need a BB to stand out and the recieving core minus Smith will be all new. I have faith the “Goon Squad” will look 10 times better this year.
The Good Word
March 6th, 2012
10:50 am
WnE:
CPJ was saying that what will never change is the need to improve in all areas of the game. Do you think Saban is going to say to his players that they don’t need to keep improving just because they won the National Championship last season? Hell no. You always have to push your players to get better in every category, and you will always have to do that no matter what happened the previous season.
Old Gold
March 6th, 2012
10:50 am
Sorry Wne, don’t think there is any statute of limitations on abhorrent behavior.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
10:51 am
re:
gtfanfrom1951
March 6th, 2012
10:22 am
why does CMR,Saban, and the old ball coach get more of the “best player” because they are not going to college to get an education their going to get ready for the NFL. They can tell them their lies and keep a kid in school until they are through with them. Its all about the money. Saban will say anything to get a kid then cast him aside.
Ken you did a great job this time I have enjoyed it.
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Tomlinson from Henry Co. is planning on majoring in Accounting at Bama and plans on going to Grad school, and he spurned for FB reason only, he’s a 3.9 student that could have done the academic work at GT.
It makes Text Fans look like HUGE DOUCHE-B@GS when every time they lose a Recruit, they claim that the Recruit didn’t want to study hard and make something out of himself.
When up & coming HS recruits read this, they like Ga. Text a whole lot less, and because of this Fans LIKE YOU HURT GT’s recruiting more than fans like me that demand the most from GT FB and want GT FB to be elite and also to play Elite competition.
If your son were an elite FB recruit and read what you wrote above he wouldn’t want to come to GT.
Your SMUG, ICE-HOLE elitism is worse than any tweet that I could ever send to anyone!
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
10:55 am
Good luck with that good word, but don’t expect an answer. Facts and logic have proven to consistently confuse and shut up Wne.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
11:04 am
re:
WnE:
CPJ was saying that what will never change is the need to improve in all areas of the game. Do you think Saban is going to say to his players that they don’t need to keep improving just because they won the National Championship last season? Hell no. You always have to push your players to get better in every category, and you will always have to do that no matter what happened the previous season.
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You’ll never improve your passing game if your QB coach has to split time coaching the B-Backs, like I sad above either you’re allowing it to happen OR you’re coaching it!
BTW, I pointed this out way back in Dec. 2007 when CPJ was hired, I questioned back then how would he be able to develop QBs when the guy coaching QBs has split duty.
It is one thing for the QB coach to also be the OC, but it is harmful to the development for your QBs to have their coach split his efforts by coaching B-Backs.
At the LOWER LEVELS of CFB you can de-emphasize QB play and passing and still win, but at the BCS level your QB determines how far you go, even the crappy QBs at Bama are good enough to hold a clip-board in the NFL.
Not only has CPJ de-emphasized QB play, but he also tries to de-emphasize Recruiting and elite athleticism in favor of his “System” working miracles and beating MORE TALENTED teams.
CPJ has set his staff up like he is still coaching in the MINOR LEAGUES (GSU, navy, etc.).
The problem is that GT doesn’t have enough knowledgeable fans that can see that what he’s doing won’t work in a BCS conference.
I theorized back then that CPJ wouldn’t be able to develop QBs for BCS-Level play, and so far I am 100% correct on that prediction.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:05 am
@ 5 star….., learn from the error of your ways…LOL NEVER NEVER NEVER read what WnE posts. You’re wasting your time and end up being frustrated beyond relief. I just scroll past every post he makes now without reading a single word. EVERYONE should do the same. His opinions are WORTHLESS !!!!
I need more football coverage
March 6th, 2012
11:07 am
Ken,
I don’t think you should stop after part five. These are way too interesting. I would suggest continuing on once or twice a week until spring practice starts. Write about spring football and then start a new series until we finally get to summer practice. This will give us football geeks something to look forward to each week. Either way keep up the great work.
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
11:08 am
Thanks supersize, I’ve given the same advice to at least three regular posters to these forums myself in the past. A momentary lapse of reason on my part. I see he still has not answered the question though.
Power DAWGS!!
March 6th, 2012
11:14 am
Ken your Pushing the point of Poor defense enough… same story as before..
WnE
March 6th, 2012
11:14 am
FIVE YEARS into CPJ’s tenure and ALL we have is ONE question mark at QB (Vad Lee) and one 5-9 guy from Alabama that Saban has looked at for one year and has determined that he can’t win a MNC by playing QB for Bama.
If Justin Thomas could pass good enough to get Bama to another SEC CG and MNC, then Saban would have kept him at QB.
So GT fans are counting on CPJ’s “Magic System” to get more out of Justin Thomas at QB than the other 21 4* & 5* recruits that Bama would have surrounded him with had Saban let him play QB for Bama.
Think about that CPJ-boot-licking-toadies, Saban could surround Thomas with 21 other 4* & 5* recruits IF he played QB at Bama, but GT putzes/fans think that CPJ’s gimmicky System can get more out of him.
Saban looked at Thomas and said that even if I do surround him with 21 other 4* & 5* Recruits, I still CAN’T WIN with this non-passing 5-9 Recruit at QB.
It just shows you how delusional the GT fanbase is!
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:16 am
@ 5 star….., he will NEVER respond to your question, because he is lacking any semblance of integrity or honesty.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
11:18 am
5 star…
I get into it way too much sometimes with axe-grinding agenda-driven people who can’t respond logically to straightforward questions.
The future is bright at GT, for sure.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
11:21 am
Mark Richt never talks about poor execution:
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/010212aag.html
Nick Saban never doesn’t, either:
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2011/11/lsu_enhances_position_at_no_1.html
Nor does Steve Spurrier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKoNo3IQ_HI
And Les Miles would NEVER throw a 17 year old under the bus:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/video-les-miles-mocks-gunner-kiel-chest-ability-192230869.html
5 star recruits, 2 star results
March 6th, 2012
11:24 am
Supersize, don’t you think it’s about time for Wne to post a picture of “his” Tech class ring to prove he’s a fan, and not a delusional, hateful troll. I may post a picture of “my” Italian super model wife posing on the hood of my Ferrari in front of one of our many mansions. I just love the internet. I get to trade in my grandmother of two wife, for a supermodel, my Nissan Frontier becomes a Ferrari, our modest home becomes a mansion and Wne becomes a Tech grad who simply wants the best for the program. George Lucas should have such a fantasy life.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
11:24 am
I love that WnE has the gall to call anyone or anything smug or elitist.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:26 am
LMAO @ 5 star…….and @ George too
WnE
March 6th, 2012
11:27 am
The future is bright at GT, for sure.
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Non-passing QBs?
B-backs that can’t crack 700 yds rushing vs. the 75th toughest schedule?
No WRs with any game experience to speak of?
Losing 2/3 of a very WEAK DL, and CPJ still hasn’t recruited a decent NT?
Best LB might be done with FB due to neck injury, and the other LBs have never covered a TE or RB in pass coverage in the entire CPJ Era?
Very poor, SLOW, pedestrian safeties, that get burned badly in pass coverage, usually right before Half-time?
One decent A-Back and then a bunch of “under-the-radar-guys”?
Are you sure the future is bright at Ga Text ?
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:30 am
On the Bradley blog, somebody pointed out how Chip Towers blocks “offensive” posts, thus proving what a homer he is. Some joker named “beanster” defended it by saying that there are sleazebags who post what he called “cheap shots just to satisfy their desire to rip anything related to UGA.” So it’s apparently ok in beanster’s eyes for dwag trolls to do that on Tech blogs, but it’s over the line for anybody to do that on Chip’s blogs. Talk about a homer.
student athlete
March 6th, 2012
11:31 am
Classic:
Paul Johnson: “We were one penalty away from probably winning our division and going to the ACC championship.”
WOW; Why not just say the same thing he says in private,
” them !@#$ )(*h@# +_c^&%$ players cost “me” title.
None of the poor play calling or game management had a darn thing to do with it!!!
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
11:31 am
I just took a good WnE and it looked like dWagfan so I finished filling the toilet bowl with gt4ever and flused them all down together.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
11:33 am
SuperS it looks like Chip has banned me for saying S Hill is moving up in the draft and O Charles is moving down
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:34 am
WnE
March 6th, 2012
9:06 am
re:
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
8:52 am
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You must really like beating DEAD HORSES, those 8-12 tweets were discussed ad nauseam, they were made 15 MONTHS AGO, and have been talked about in various blogs and on various message boards MONTHS AGO.
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WnE
March 6th, 2012
10:36 am
re:
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
10:30 am
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Wow!
14-15 months ago, is that the best you got?
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I posted a link to what you referenced as being 15 MONTHS AGO. Were you trying to convince Vad Lee he should go to a different school?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:36 am
Are you sure the future is bright at Ga Text ?
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Are you sure you are a GT alumnus? Do you know a troll named Really? What is a Ga Text anyway and why would an alumnus of GT ever call his school that?
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:36 am
UOAD, like I said, they are all homers
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:38 am
5150 UOAD…don’t feel bad. Chip Towers banned me for pointing out that Memphis is a Conference USA team.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
11:38 am
Headly Lemar, 13-1,buLLdawg, A Father, Thomas Brown, WnE……can you say Sybil of the AJC blogs?
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:40 am
HT, why would he do that? Had he said something different and didn’t like being corrected?
Egg_guy
March 6th, 2012
11:41 am
please…….NO MORE TW AT QB! It’s time to re-load, we are one good QB away from having a great offense!!! CPJ……do your job and make it happen for all us Tech grads/fans.
damn where is rush when you need him
March 6th, 2012
11:44 am
we have 2 beyotches (WnE gt4ever) having a 2 way and no talk of birth control. oh wait… they are men,.
btw i have some hash browns for you.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:45 am
Supersize…No. Some dwag was saying that Tech competes with Conference USA for recruits so Tech should drop down to Conference USA to be competitive. I pointed out that UGA flipped a commit from Memphis, which is in Conference USA. I asked on his blog if this was a move to make the Dawgs more competitive with Conference USA teams like UCF. That’s all. No profanity. Nothing really mean spirited in it, either. I was called out for being provocative and banned.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
11:46 am
Athens-Clarke County police are hoping a $1,000 reward will help catch a sniper who used a high-powered BB gun to shoot a jogger and two moving cars last weekend.
According to the Athens Banner-Herald, the shooter is a young white man driving a black Volkswagen Jetta or similar car.
That Reward money could buy a lot of PBR and Hash Browns
GTGreg
March 6th, 2012
11:46 am
It’s our own trolls (WnE) that make this board unreadable now… amazing.. the dwags don’t even need to be on here… we’re doing their job for them!
PJ is the right man for GT.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
11:47 am
GTGreg WnE is not a Tech or UGa fan
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
11:49 am
Chip would get more HITS if she would lighten up. He is a baby about so many things.
Egg_guy
March 6th, 2012
11:50 am
How many times have we seen QB TW under-achieve against the good teams when it came to making a play? Sure he makes plays against the sorry teams…..but look at his record against the good teams! I think he is a great kid, nothing against him as a person, but c’mon man! Look who he was playing early last year on the way to 6-0. What did he do against the last 7 teams we played?Hello? CPJ are you listening?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:52 am
Egg-guy…if there is a competition for starting QB, then we have to trust the coaches are capable of judging the competition fairly and putting the best player for that position in that role.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:53 am
That’s for sure, 5150. I rarely read his articles anymore.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:54 am
@ UOAD, HT, and GTGreg…….Ken says, and I have no reason not to believe him, that he has to run requested bans by somebody higher up. Apparently the AJC gives Chip free reins to do whatever he wants to do and ban whomever he doesn’t like. Why the disparity there?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:56 am
Supersize…do you even need to ask that?
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
11:59 am
@ HT……LOL, no, I don’t. But out of frustration I had to. Chip would ban the likes of WnE in a heartbeat. I wish Ken could do the same
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
12:04 pm
SuperS Chip lets WnE/Thomas Brown stay. He has never banned him.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
12:06 pm
UOAD, if WnE posts the same crap on Chip’s blogs that he posts here, then that doesn’t surprise me at all.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:07 pm
Supersize…it might be interesting to look on Chip’s blog to see if any of WnE’s alter egos, buLLdawg or Thomas Brown, are allowed to post there. I think I’ve seen Thomas Brown there before.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
12:09 pm
What was the link to WnE’s twitter thread to Vad Lee again?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
Speaking of WnE, didn’t FL Jacket mention yes_ter_day that WnE always disappears this time of day? Must be the fry cooker beeping.
roadrunner
March 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
If you have a receiver with 4.3 speed, most coaches would try to get the ball to him more than 1 or 2 times per game.
GIVE ME A BREAK
March 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
The penalty CPJ is talking about was a dumb move by a good player. The officials had no choice but to make the call. Easily the one penalty that should not have happened. I’m excited about the QB competition. Hill caught all 12 passes at Pro Day at GT. I wish he had come back as a senior. I hope he has great success in the NFL.
GTBob
March 6th, 2012
12:16 pm
For anyone who wants to know what kind of guy WnE is, here is a recap of his twitter barrage on Vad Lee. All posts were made in 2 days:
@VadLee02 make sure you ask CPJ Y his OL cannot pass block after 36+ months in HIS SYSTEM, & make sure you ask Claytor Y he is leaving
@VadLee02 and while u r at it, ask Tarrant Y he is leaving also, aks CPJ Y all of his QBs cannot learn to pass after 36 of playng QB for GT
@VadLee02 I was lookn at GT’s WRs comn bck they have Hill, Moore, McKayhan, Melton + scrubs, I wonder how any QB can ball w/no WRs?
@VadLee02 Kinda hard 2 become an NFL QB with no TEs @ GT 2 thrw 2 & no Screen Passes 2 throw, esp. since the HC nevr calls 4 screen passes.
@VadLee02 since u in town ask Josh how good does he think the pass blocking will be next yr. with D1-AA-sized O-linemn, 4 that fact in 2012?
@VadLee02 Thnk abt your NFL $, CPJ gets D1-AA-sz OLs to cut-blk to keep his $ com’n in, his OLs r 4 HIS SYSTEM, not to get U 2 the NFL @ QB?
@VadLee02 D1-AA sz OLs vs. Real DLs at VT, The U, UGAy, Klimpsn means no passng for GT QBs, no passng means NO NFL $$$, U a Athl. or a QB?
@VadLee02 Whose future paychk is more important your or CPJ’s, Cam is 6-6 250 he can play in a spread & still get NFL $$, can U at 6-2 200?
@VadLee02 QBs your SIZE NEED 2 be in a real Pro-Style Offense 2 learn what the NFL is lookng 4, you don’t want size & system 2 go against U
@VadLee02 I hope U make great choices in life young man, but do U really think that those 2011 Recruits 4 GT can play w/Bama/L$U/Auburn/UF?
@VadLee02 If U plan on going 2 war with those types of Recruits in a BCS Conf,U better get used 2 “lower-tier Bowls”, no BCS & Prime-Time 4U
Vad Lee finally asks him to stop.
@VadLee02, I respect your request, I’ll never tweet U again, I will chk bck in 3-yrs. to C what your NFL chances R at QB from a Optn Offense
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
12:17 pm
I hope PJ stays at Tech a very long . Much rather have Georgia face Pj coached teams with Pj recruited players.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
Ghost…we’re hoping CPJ stays at Tech a very long, too. Much rather have Georgie face Pj teams than Gailey teams.
GTBob
March 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
What was the link to WnE’s twitter thread to Vad Lee again?
http://twitter.com/#!/WrecksNEffect
Read around Jan 16th 2011. 12 posts in 2 days until Vad finally asked him to stop. It included gems like:
D1-AA sz OLs vs. Real DLs at VT, The U, UGAy, Klimpsn means no passng for GT QBs, no passng means NO NFL $$$, U a Athl. or a QB?
Mark in ATL
March 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
…just wonder how this prickly personality is going to play out over a number of years….it was great the first year after beating Ga but now it could rub people the wrong way.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
speaking of disappearing, it’s time to get some lunch and go vote. Talk to you guys later
GTGreg
March 6th, 2012
12:20 pm
Hey roadrunner… if you have a receiver with 4.3 speed that continually makes boneheaded drops, at what number of attempts do you reach diminishing returns by throwing to him?
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
12:22 pm
Good lord…where is our Chip Towers banning anything less than “groupthink” on our own blog?
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
roadrunner…
You’d figure CMR would stop throwing the ball to a TE that can’t even break 4.7 in the 40.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
12:25 pm
Mark…
Very little CPJ does rubs anyone the wrong way for Tech fans…
GT fan
March 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
Does anyone know what his/her handle “WnE” stands for?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:29 pm
I think it stands for WieniE.
gt4ever
March 6th, 2012
12:32 pm
@Wne
Joe Hamilton would have never been a QB at Alabama…. He seemed to work out just fine… I think he was runner up for the Heisman….
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
12:33 pm
WrecksNEffect
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
12:37 pm
High tech, me too, IMHO Chans teams had better talent and matched up better against Georgia. I am on the keep PJ bandwagon.
GT fan
March 6th, 2012
12:41 pm
Tracy Ham & Raymond Gross were two great DUAL-threat QBs who made the TO darn near impossible to defend. I’d even go so far as to suggest that most, if not all, losses under those 2 greats was a direct result of turnovers, not the opponent’s defense.
PJ is going to get a TH or RG at Tech. Who knows, there might be one there now??
PJ’s teams at GT have won 34 games in 4 years. And that’s with 3 QB completion % in the 40s and one in the 30s. When GT gets a QB to 50-55% for a season it’s going to be a DC’s worst nightmare having to defend the TO.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:42 pm
Ghost…what was Chan’s record against UGA? What is CPJ’s?
GTBob
March 6th, 2012
12:43 pm
IMHO Chans teams had better talent and matched up better against Georgia. I am on the keep PJ bandwagon.
Chan’s teams went 7-5 every year and never beat UGA. What exactly were you watching?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:44 pm
GTBob…I’m glad your posts finally made it through. Hard to understand how someone can claim to be a fan of a program and then try to undermine recruiting efforts.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
12:45 pm
Chan didn’t get better recruits. He got basically the same ANY Tech coach will get. The kids that want to play and don’t want to go to the SEC.
Who's your Daddy Wne?
March 6th, 2012
12:48 pm
they had WnE, his mom and 6 men on Maury. today….
sad but looks like WnE and his mom will have to do it all over again.
these hash browns are for you.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
12:50 pm
Chan got the same recruits middling programs like Lousiville, Pittsburgh, or NC State get. They get a handful of 4-star guys (maybe even a 5-star guy), a couple 3-star…but the vast majority were projects and lesser talented guys. For every Calvin Johnson he recruited an I-Perfection Harris…
roadrunner
March 6th, 2012
12:52 pm
@ fla jackoff: You must have trouble reading.I wasn’t talking about CMR, I was talking about CPJ.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:55 pm
FL Jacket…looks like your rock hit a dog.
Fix my computer, Geek Squad
March 6th, 2012
12:56 pm
“The problems in the passing game, would you say it was a system-wide matter?”
How could their be any other answer but yes?
“We were one penalty away from probably winning our division and going to the ACC championship.”
Yeah, it was just that one penalty, nothing else at all.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
12:57 pm
roadrunner…like Bobo let 35:55minute MURRAY get the to ball to the Other Teams Defenders a few times a game?
nice play on FLA Jackets name. I guess you are a great one handed typist because you put FLA’s pun name to a lot of use.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
12:58 pm
How could their be any other answer but yes?
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That’s funny.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
12:59 pm
Fix my computer, Geek Squad…it is not your computer the STUPID button seems to be working just fine.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
12:59 pm
Don’t hate on I-Perfection Harris, FLJ. That was one of the most creative names I’ve ever heard.
I have to say, though, that Euclid Cummings is the most appropriate name for a GT player ever.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:00 pm
roadrunner…stay classy
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:03 pm
George…
I will point out that the 2007 recruiting class was Chan’s last, yet far and away the finest, within 6 years. It took lots of momentum to get to the point where we actually beat UGA in the recruiting rankings (as arbitrary as those are).
I think the 2013 class might approach that 2007 class, definitely not in numbers, but in sheer talent. But it takes years of momentum and stability to get to that point.
are you serious ghost? really?
March 6th, 2012
1:06 pm
obviously you’re a fan of chan…
in 7 games against uga chan went 0 ‘fer 7. uga averaged 28 points a game while we averaged 12. this included a series worst drubbing of 51-7.
under cpj we have gone 1-3 and been in position to win 2 of the 3 losses in the last minute. uga has averaged 36 points a game and we have averaged 30 points a game,.
i guess when you hate a coach you cant see the forest through the trees.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:08 pm
I agree completely with that, FLJ. It took George a long time to develop the relationships with the high schools before he started getting guys like Daryl Smith and Key Fox. And folks forget that Joe Hamilton wasn’t exactly a five star guy coming out of high school. Anyone interested in facts knows Johnson has recruited at roughly the same level as his predecessors, but he’s outperformed them on the field.
The issue the people have with Johnson – in my opinion – is that they struggle with things that aren’t conventional. His offense, his personality, etc. are not conventional. But, I think when you’re competing with others, there are two ways to be successful. One is to do the same thing they’re doing, but do it better. The other way is to do something different. I prefer folks who aren’t afraid to choose the latter.
gtTat
March 6th, 2012
1:12 pm
Stephen Hill is the fastest man at the NFL Combine and at 6′5 should have been a scoring machine. I believe the drops were due to lack of game passes. He wasn’t thrown to enough. If you only see one or two passes per quarter, you won’t be accustomed to catching with opposition.
Secondly, Jemea Thomas, the BEST defensive player on the team, was NOT a starter!!!
There are enough obstacles. We don’t have to handicap ourselves. CPJ will continue to lose as long as he underutilizes his best players.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:13 pm
George…
The thing ignorant bloggers conveniently forget is that under CGO and CCG our APR scores were teetering on disastrous levels further jeopardizing the program from competing. It happened once under CGO’s and CBC’s watch already.
So you either play the same game as everyone else, where your academic expectations handicap you from the outset, or you do something totally different and maximize returns in both areas.
Dallas Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:14 pm
Hey WnE
The “Offense” is 1-11 vs. top-50 defenses over the last 2 seasons!
Why don’t you include all 4 years. His offense was 4-0 vs top-50 defenses in 2009. You are not the only one who can go to ncaa.org and look up stats. Just don’t tweak the stats to fit your agenda.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:16 pm
In general I agree, FLJ, except that I think APR is a terrible way of measuring academic progress. But then, just about anything the NCAA touches is FUBAR. I really have no use for those fools.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:16 pm
gtTat…
Obviously we were watching different games, because you missed 2 separate wide open TD drops against UNC and Clemson.
Then again, this might blow you away. Best player on the team and NFL Combine warrior are rarely one and the same…
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:18 pm
Now, now, Dallas Jacket, you can’t use facts.
Also, it’s insane to use the traditional metrics for determining defensive performance. Let’s use Clemson as an example. They run a high tempo offense, which means they will run more plays and have more possessions. It also means the other team will, too. It should come as no surprise to anyone with a brain, then, that their opponents will score more points and accrue more yards than they would against a team that uses a more traditional offense.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:19 pm
George…
I know the APR penalizes you for early graduations, but the scores for football are actually quite competitive now and continuing to rise. Lots of people do understand that the general student graduation rate really isn’t all that great either…especially compared to private schools where the hardest part there is simply getting in.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
1:23 pm
Fla jacket i saw a report that said the average tech student takes 5 years 2 semesters to graduate from Tech. Having the student athletes do it in 5 years is impressive to me.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:23 pm
Agreed, FLJ.
Ramblin Man
March 6th, 2012
1:25 pm
Has anybody else heard or read that the BIG 10 is pushing hard to add GT, Maryland, ND, and another team by 2016?
Oh and don’t point out that WeeniE called Hill a scrub at one time, he always knew Hill was 1st round potentiol and CPJ wasted his talent. How many times does Weenie have to tell you guys how great and smart he is before you get it?
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:27 pm
5150…
It took me 5 years, but I only took Summer classes once during that span and had summer jobs/internships and such. SAs generally are at school year round and take Summer classes so it wouldn’t surprise me if many of them actually graduate quicker than the student body.
sorry guys but i really dont see where
March 6th, 2012
1:31 pm
cpj is different than other coaches.
oleary = cpj for the most part. chan oleary and cpj have all been called stubborn to a fault. funny though that it was cpj that made changes to his staff on his own. if i remember right chan was forced to remove dave wilson and a few others by the ad. if anyvbody had told oleary he needed to make coaching change i do think that he would have told them to go f themselves.
chan had a bad habit of treating a kid like an nfl player. when it came to academics ask reggie ball how that worked out for him? reggie wasnt the only casualty of chan;s lack of discipline. oleary was better but he had his faults.
i do believe that our academic progress under cpj will be the best of those 3 by far.
none of them were particularly smooth at handling reporters or the fan base that i remember.
i specifically remember chan completely shutting down and circling the wagons in his ‘us against the world’ tantrums..do any of you remember chan having 4 part interviews in the 7 years he was here? i dont.
now looking a bit to the east …. it seems that coach huggie bear has been a bit prickly on more than one occasion this year alone. over 10 years richt exactly like chan has continued to stick with his staff even in the face of abysmal mediocrity…. unlike cpj. cpj has made more major staff changes than either richt or chan in a shorter span of time yet many of you call cpj stubborn and arrogant. breaking news… all coaches are arrogant. they have to be as it comes with the territory.
the difference i see between richt and johnson is that johnson has more of a sarcastic personality.
sorry but i just dont see where cpj is all that different than any other college fb coaches for the most part.
i like him and i am happy that he is our coach.
all of you whiners keep harping on last year but you never mention we had the 2nd youngest team in the entire country yet we were a few plays away from another divisional championship.
go jackets
Ramblin Man
March 6th, 2012
1:35 pm
gtTat,
Jemea Thomas is a great player in my opinion and will be a starter, but there is a reason Sweeting and Young have the starting spots. Sweeting is a lock down corner and if you watch you will see that many a team threw it away from Sweeting because of his cover skills. J. Thomas stands out to people because of the downed punt early in the season and two interceptions in the Clemson game. Both of the interceptions had more to do with bad passes/QB and WR being on the same page than J. Thomas making a great pick. Look for a lot of substitution this year with Thomas, Young, Sweeting, Holton, Golden, Noble, Richardson, and Johnson depending on the defensive schemes being used as the DB depth looks good and deep.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
1:36 pm
I think the ACC has a better shot of getting PENN STATE and ND than the Big 10 getting Tech. I will not travel to many of those games past October 1st. I am southern and don’t plan on freezing for a whole season. LOL
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:38 pm
Jemea Thomas’s best play in the Clemson game was early in the 3rd quarter when he was man to man on Sammy Watkins. I believe the score was 24-10 at the time and Boyd pitched one deep down the middle and Jemea went up and broke up the pass. He forced a fumble a four or five plays later and we scored to go up 31-10. He’s a tremendous player.
hey gtTAT
March 6th, 2012
1:39 pm
are you serious? really? Really?
there is a difference between practice and the games. hill had a major problem with the ‘gotchas’ on game day. that is a physiological issue not a coaching issue.
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
1:41 pm
you fail to consider that Gailey faced Georgia tams that were winning SEC championships and finishing in top 10 on an annual basis 2002 – 2005 had the lead and lost in 2006 by 3 points. In 2007 Georgia finished #2 in the nation , Other than 2008 when Georgia had 18 scholarship players out due to injury Pj has faced and lost to 2 of the worst Georgia teams in the past 11 years.And did that with the benefit of the 1 very good class Gailey recruited. I think PJ will turn out to be the worst hire Techs ever made, I hope he stays at tech forever.The past 3 years tech has never lead , and has trailed in most games by 10 or more points in the majority of each game. Last year wasn’t close and Georgia was playing with 4th team tailback, unplugging the offense in the 4th quarter. Please keep PJ.
something you will never see a gager fan say...
March 6th, 2012
1:41 pm
“It took me 5 years, but I only took Summer classes once during that span and had summer jobs/internships and such. .”
14 GT
March 6th, 2012
1:42 pm
HEY WEENIE (WnE)!!!! GO THE FREAK AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry ghost but your wrong
March 6th, 2012
1:47 pm
again. uga has consistently had top 10 recruiting classes. we have still had to deal with a talent disparity even under cpj. matter of fact uga has been talking recruiting dream teams now for the last 3-4 years. i am not going to bother but i would guess that that they have recruited better players while cpj was here as compared to chan.
when uga was reeking havoc lsu and bama and ark and sc were not the programs they are now. so those accomplishments are tainted.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:47 pm
Ghost…
The 2006 and 2007 games were the last straw, since CCG had better talent than uGA and still found ways to lose…very ugly. Tech fans will have a hard time ever forgetting that 2-game stretch in 2006 where we lost COFH and then lost to Wake Forest in two of the mst horribly quarterbacked games back-to-back we can ever remember…
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:49 pm
Is this the part where we say that UGA was finishing that high because Richt was winning with Donnan’s players at a time when Florida and Tennessee sucked?
speaking of tainted..
March 6th, 2012
1:49 pm
WnE ghost and gt4ever can smell mine.
i have some hash browns for you girls.
speaking of tainted..
March 6th, 2012
1:51 pm
great point george…… touche ghost.
Al Bundy
March 6th, 2012
1:53 pm
I make no claims to be a football expert, but I don’t think you have to be to see some serious issues with CPJ. I think he is way too full of himself for someone who has accomplished very little. And yes I know we won the ACC championship, but with someone else’s recruits and we were rewarded with NCAA violations and being stripped of our title. So it’s not much of an accomplishment at that price. Since CPJ came to town our recruiting hasn’t gotten better, our special teams aren’t better, our defense under Al Groh hasn’t improved, our record against quality teams isn’t better, and our bowl game record hasn’t improved. Would someone give me a reason to get on the CPJ bandwagon. Oh I’m sorry we were one penalty away from the ACC championship game. Another example of CPJ NOT taking responsibility.
i love jamea
March 6th, 2012
1:53 pm
but towards the end of last season he was getting eaten alive by the wide receivers over n over again.
he was a rfr and will only get better and better.
al please take your hand out of your pants
March 6th, 2012
1:54 pm
and read the post on cpj above. all coaches are full of themselves. duh
i bet your chantastic.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
1:55 pm
Ghost Chan was facing UGa teams that were winning the SEC because the SEC was down more than UGa was great. The UGA recruiting classes were basically like they still are today as compared to the Talent TECH is getting.
Birmingham Jacket
March 6th, 2012
1:56 pm
My predictions:
@Va Tech: Embarassing beat-down loss on national TV
Presb. Blue Horse High School: Big win.
UVA: Win
Miami: Loss. They’re too physical and bigger than our 2-3* signees.
Middle Tenn State: Win.
@ Clemson: Close. But loss.
BC: Tough call. Again, they’re big along the los, and that gives us trouble. Close Win
BYU: Same as BC. Close win.
@ MD: Toss up
@UNC: Loss
Duke: Win
@ UGA: Same as we started the season… Beat-down loss.. Could be the closest humiliation since 51-7. This outcome of this game will determine if CPJ starts 2013 on the hot-seat; and I’m afraid this one could get ugly.
I don’t take bowl eligibility as a given this season, given our tough road schedule.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:56 pm
You’re right, Al. He has done nothing right since he’s been here. He does not have a 1.000 winning percentage and he’s really, really mean. He must be fired immediately!
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
1:58 pm
We should really just cancel the season, Birmingham. What’s the point of even playing?
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
2:02 pm
George…
I welcome anyone, including Birmingham Jacket (debateable), to predict 6 wins this year again. I would also wonder why he considers UVA to be an easy win but not BC? Must not watch ALL the games…
GTBob
March 6th, 2012
2:03 pm
I think PJ will turn out to be the worst hire Techs ever made
So he has the highest winning percentage at Tech since Bobby Dodd and you think he will turn out to be worse then Bill Lewis?
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:05 pm
He’s certainly free to think that, but there isn’t any substance to it, FLJ.
gt4ever
March 6th, 2012
2:07 pm
My predictions:
@Va Tech: Win, playing them early makes the difference.
Presb. Blue Horse High School: Big win.
UVA: Loss
Miami: Loss. They are just better.
Middle Tenn State: Win.
@ Clemson: Close. But loss.
BC: Tough call. Win
BYU: I have NO idea
@ MD: Win
@UNC: Win
Duke: Win
@ UGA: Loss, this one could get UGLY… Last year they could have scored 50 points. UGA just gets better this year…
Bowl game will be a toss up.. We played a very average team last year and found a way to lose…
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
2:07 pm
George…if Chip Towers mediated this blog we’d still be on the first page!
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
2:09 pm
GTBob you are BANNED for saying the Mutt/Pirates name on this blog. That is the biggest cuss word in tech Football History. You also can’t say the ex-BBall coaches name ever again either.
Al Bundy
March 6th, 2012
2:09 pm
I’m just saying at this point in the CPJ era there should be some improvement. I’m just not seeing it. Someone please tell me what part of the program has improved since CPJ was hired. And don’t give me we were 6-0 to start the season garbage either. We beat 6 very weak teams. And NO I don’t think Chan was the man any more than I though Pepper Rogers was the man!
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
2:10 pm
FL jacket that is for sure and would be a sunshine and butt kissing.
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
2:10 pm
Having top recruiting classes and being good teams are 2 different things all together.And the term Dream team was used for 1 recruiting class 2011 which was an outstanding class, Ask Pj, he tried to sign at least 11 of the players that signed with Georgia. Saban was coaching at LSU from 2001 through 2004and won the national Championship in 2003,In 2005 3 SEC team finished in the top 10. in 2004 Auburn was undefeated finished 3rd in country Georgia finished 7th.Unlike the ACC the SEc has placed 2-3 teams in the final top ten most of the years since Richt arrived in 2001. It could also be said while Alabama and LSU have been reeking havoc Georgia , Florida and Tennessee have been down. I am happy you like PJ as I said I hope he stays at tech forever.the talent disparity is larger under PJ than its been in many years keep him please.
gt4ever
March 6th, 2012
2:11 pm
Al,
Nobody that has ever played the game thinks that GT football is trending upward…
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:14 pm
I played football, gt4ever, and I think it’s trending up.
Agreed, FLJ.
Birmingham Jacket
March 6th, 2012
2:16 pm
Don’t get me wrong. Hope I’m incorrect. But I think all the GT Homers on here will find out that most preseason predictions by “the experts”…whatever that means, will look similar to mine and gt4ever’s.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:17 pm
The defense improved last year, Al. It wasn’t where we want it to be, but at least be objective. Plus, we played better offenses last year, which suggests it was not as bleak as some folks think.
The special teams were awful (again). Let’s see if a new coach can fix that. The offense, by almost any measure, was just fine.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
2:18 pm
gt4ever…
I played football, as well. It’s trending up because on offense, our OL is deeper and more talented and the QB talent is getting really good. On defense, while I would like to have better DL talent, our LB’s and DB’s are very deep and talented.
Why do you think the opposite?
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:20 pm
Look, Birmingham, I’m fine with you criticizing the team. But I’m more interested in the reasons you think what you think and the things you’d do differently. When I hear people complain but offer no alternatives, I lose interest and dismiss them. Offer some alternatives and we can discuss them. I think you’ll find I’m pretty rational.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
2:20 pm
Hahah CHIP TOWERS has 18 post for his 10@10. He has Banned everybody, has deleted every post or NOBODY cares what he has to say.
gt4ever
March 6th, 2012
2:20 pm
LOL George…
You have sniffed to many open bottles of bourbon… I just wish I could be as optimistic as you and some of the bloggers…
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
2:22 pm
Birmingham…
By “GT Homers” you mean fans right? Which expert was fired, demoted, or humiliated after incorrectly picking Tech to win 6 games last year? Or that’s right…because it doesn’t matter.
Al Bundy
March 6th, 2012
2:22 pm
I hope I eat my words and CPJ turns out to be the best hire since Alabama hired Nick Saban, but I have my doubts.
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
2:22 pm
George, is you leg good now ? I hope it healed properly.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
2:23 pm
All we need to win the ACC or play for it every year is a better Defense. I wish the recruiting guys could explain that to these high school kids. Tech’s O will win plenty of games. If we could get some kids to understand with a D TECH would be on TV all the time and they would be on Championship caliber teams that the NFL scouts would love to draft.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:26 pm
Thanks, Ghost. It’s pretty much all the way back. There’s a big scar, but it’s otherwise okay. I appreciate your comment.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:27 pm
OK, gt4ever. Let me get one thing straight. I don’t sniff bottles of bourbon. I drink it! In fact, I have a bottle of Maker’s here in my office. Maybe I’ll have some later.
student athlete
March 6th, 2012
2:31 pm
@ George Stein, who were the better offenses?
The OL should dominate this year, all CPJ selected lineman with upper class leaders.
Al Bundy
March 6th, 2012
2:32 pm
5150 UOAD I agree our defense is killing us and it needs to improve. That is one of the reasons I am so critical of CPJ. He hired Al Groh to fix the defense and so far it’s not working. If our defense struggles again this year then CPJ needs to dump Al and hire someone who can fix it. Al has had enough time but I’ll bet CPJ won’t fire Al no matter what happens this year because to fire Al would be to admit he made a mistake. And CPJ would drink a bucket of pig slobber on National TV before he admitted a mistake.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
2:35 pm
8-5 is not better than 6-7. Nope. No improvement there. None.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
2:38 pm
I am sure Johnson can admit making mistakes.
I don’t think it is as much Groh as it is getting the players. The Recruiting Guys really have to find some Smart Big Uglies and get some more Speed on Defense. Groh should Finalize closing the recruits but the other D coaches really have to FIND and EVALUATE the kids to get the right players now.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
2:40 pm
Who would you rather have calling plays Pat NIX or Paul Johnson?
Birmingham Jacket
March 6th, 2012
2:41 pm
Since Chan Gailey’s class left, would someone please name for me CPJ’s “Signature Wins”…
Last year, to a Clemson team that lost to NC State and got pumbled 77-33 by WVa in their bowl game? Really?
The road win @ UNC in 2010? Really?
@ George Stein: I would focus my efforts on getting the best recruiters I could… And getting a new defensive coordinator.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:42 pm
Well, student athlete, if we look at total offense (which I freely admit isn’t the perfect metric), the following teams we played from 2010 were better in 2011:
Clemson: from 334 YPG to 440
VT: from 402 to 413
Maryland/Wake (we replaced Wake with Maryland, so this is a fair comparison): Wake 2010 302 to Maryland 2011 379
UGA: 385 to 408
NCSU had a dropoff (probably Russell Wilson related), and UVA and UNC held pretty steady.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
2:42 pm
5150…do they need to find ELITE RECRUITS? lol.
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
2:48 pm
If only the ignorant—–S Hill had basically 1 year of HS football–he was a track athlete first–he caught the ball against his body–the ball has a tendency to bounce you know–he had to corral the ball against his body–he has had to learn to catch the ball with his hands–strengthening his hands in the process–developing muscle memory (golf anyone)–lack of experience and coaching at a young age along with the above factors contributed to his drops–he will grow into a very good NFL receiver IMHO
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
2:49 pm
Were FSU, Miami, or UGA (all ranked at the date of the game) in 2008 a signature win? How about #4 VT in 2009? 2010 was a lost season. Last year, I’d say drilling the #5 team in the country counted. Honestly, who really reads anything into a game that’s played 5 weeks after the last one?
Both fair points, Birmingham. Any names you’d like to float? For a defensive guy, I might like to see us grab someone who has worked with Manny Diaz somewhere or ANYONE ever affiliated with Gary Patterson (who isn’t high as a kite, of course).
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
3:12 pm
All of you partly cloudy guys must live sad lives. And you know who you are. I prefer a partly sunny outlook myself.
PLAYMAKER
March 6th, 2012
3:22 pm
CPJ has given up, I thought he was a FIGHTER! He is so stuck in his ways he won’t change and neither will A. Groh. The recruiting is downright awful considering you are in a recruiting hotbed state. CPJ, AG and AMc R. Coor. sit around and makes jokes. They say they only want to recruit kids who want to come to GT. But you have to go out and convince kids that GT is the place for you. It is kind of sad, CPJ could be a GREAT Coach instead of just a good Coach if he would just be a little more flexiable. But now he is just sitting there taking GT money, GT can’t fire him and he knows that nor should they. But somehjow I just wished God (the only person who can move this stubborn man) would just get to CPJ and shake him. Stop letting your view and AG view be the only view. Go ahead and be the great Coach that you are.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
3:32 pm
1 4 GT but also don’t sell me Cow Crap and call it Rose Food either.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
3:35 pm
re:
Hey WnE
The “Offense” is 1-11 vs. top-50 defenses over the last 2 seasons!
Why don’t you include all 4 years. His offense was 4-0 vs top-50 defenses in 2009. You are not the only one who can go to ncaa.org and look up stats. Just don’t tweak the stats to fit your agenda.
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The LAST 2 Year are more reflective of the types of Recruits that Coach Kung Fu Panda will bring in, that 2009 season the roster was chock full of Chan’s Recruits at most Key Offensive positions.
A person of your logic & intellect should know that w/o having me embarrass you publicly on this Blog.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
3:35 pm
re:
Hey WnE
The “Offense” is 1-11 vs. top-50 defenses over the last 2 seasons!
Why don’t you include all 4 years. His offense was 4-0 vs top-50 defenses in 2009. You are not the only one who can go to ncaa.org and look up stats. Just don’t tweak the stats to fit your agenda.
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The LAST 2 Year are more reflective of the types of Recruits that Coach Kung Fu Panda will bring in, that 2009 season the roster was chock full of Chan’s Recruits at most Key Offensive positions.
A person of your logic & intellect should know that w/o having me embarrass you publicly on this Blog.
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
3:36 pm
I agree 5150. Never saw near total pessimism in your comments like some on here. You seem like most of us, mostly supportive, but wanting more.
GT Lee
March 6th, 2012
3:45 pm
Weeenie,
the only person you embarrass on these blogs is yourself….
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
3:45 pm
1 4 GT like dating a chick with C Cups and wanting D cups LOL
GT Lee
March 6th, 2012
3:48 pm
do those D-cups come with hash browns???
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
3:50 pm
Sorry I don’t like my D cups with hash browns but some good pudding is on the menu. LOL
GT Lee
March 6th, 2012
3:52 pm
how can you not like a side of taters with your (fur)burger?
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
3:56 pm
I Like less fur and more burger I guess.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
3:56 pm
re:
roadrunner…
You’d figure CMR would stop throwing the ball to a TE that can’t even break 4.7 in the 40.
_____________________-
Pop the FILM in and you’d see that Orson Charles played much faster than 4.75 and was “always open” and was definitely a Game Changer from the time he was a True Freshman, despite Hill’s 4.36 at the combine not one GT fan can say that Hill ever played THE GAME that fast and was never dominant on the college Level.
Charles made some All-american teams at TE and was a finalist for the Mackey Award given to the Nation’s top TE, Richt did quite a bit with Charles given the way UGA spreads the ball around and also had another TE that might end up in the NFL also (Aaron White).
Charles played on teams with Massaquoi, Kris Durham, and AJ Green, when you have WRs that can catch like that plus RBs like Moreno that can catch balls out of the backfield, then piling up stats is a lot harder.
In GT’s system they favor ONE WR and they very RARELY ever throw to a B-Back, so Hill should have had more than 370 yds over the last NINE GAMES, given that he’s 6-4 215 & runs a 4.36 forty.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
3:59 pm
I’m sorry, but I don’t recall Orson Charles ever plaing with Knowshon Moreno. Sloppy with facts again, WnE.
GT Lee
March 6th, 2012
4:00 pm
weeenie, the fries are burning and the bathrooms need cleaning….
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
4:00 pm
Actually, he didn’t play on a team with Massaquio (sp?), either.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
4:02 pm
I gotta say, WnE, for a Georgia fan, you are unbelievably obsessed with Tech. It’s really not healthy, man.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
4:04 pm
He was there with Cox, AJ Green, King and Ealey his freshman year.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
4:06 pm
George he isn’t a UGa fan either by his posts as BuLLdawg, 13-1 and Thomas Brown.
hell hath no fury
March 6th, 2012
4:07 pm
like a weeenie scorned.
weenie get over yourself… there are other panda’s in the sea for you. it is time to move on.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
4:10 pm
Maybe, 5150. But leave it WnE to say that Richt made Kris Durham (is he Durham’s father?) but Johnson had nothing to do with Stephen Hill.
More likely that the players are responsible for their own success.
SoCal_GT_Fan
March 6th, 2012
4:10 pm
Should be an interesting Spring practice! Can’t wait! Although people are concentrating on the QB competition, I’m more interested in the competition along the Defensive Line. I think Izaan Cross is the only guy who’s starting position is pretty firm. The other DE spot and the NT spot are up for grabs. The competition for those two spots I believe are just as critical (if not more) as the QB spot. At least in the QB spot we know the bar that is set (i.e. Tevin Washington). OK passer OK runner. Nothing fancy but nothing to be bragging about. The defensive line will determine whether we are able to hold teams from converting those 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2 situations and opening up lanes for our LBs to wreck havoc.
Another positional battle I’m interested in (its again the defensive side) is the safety position. I wonder if Fred Holton has recovered sufficiently from his injury last year (torn achilles or ACL or something if I recall) and whether he can push the starters. I recall he was one of the guys who was pushing for playing time before his injury.
GT Lee
March 6th, 2012
4:10 pm
LOL @ hell hath…..
WnE
March 6th, 2012
4:20 pm
re:
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
11:36 am
Are you sure the future is bright at Ga Text ?
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Are you sure you are a GT alumnus? Do you know a troll named Really? What is a Ga Text anyway and why would an alumnus of GT ever call his school that?
_______________________
I did that in reference to Coach Kung Fu Panda having a scumbag cheater and REPEAT NCAA Violator on his “hand-picked Staff” that got caught VIOLATING NCAA Rules by sending out too many Text Messages
Hence the play on words:
Georgia TEXT.
You do know that if Coach Fish Fry ran a CLEANER PROGRAM then I wouldn’t be able to make the Georgia TEXT comment at all?
His hand-picked Asst. coach CHEATED, then lost his JOB, and said CHEATING made my comments in this reply possible.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
4:21 pm
SoCal…
I think we will have Fred Holton and Jemea Thomas on the field together quite a bit because we’ll probably be in lots of nicekl coverage. Only one of them might takeover Rashaad Reid’s Safety spot…but they should all see lots of playing time.
TJ Barnes and Shawn Green at the NT spot should be an interesting competition…
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
4:24 pm
Breaking rules does not equal cheating. No alum would call us Georgia Text.
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
4:40 pm
George…
Are we to call uGA “Leeburn U” or “land of coaching kickbacks” or “early signee announcement U” because of their secondary violations?
FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
4:41 pm
George…
WnE is still obviously upset because Vad Lee stayed with his Tech Commitment and if he performs to his ability…might be in the discussion for a Heisman in the next few years.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
4:42 pm
WnE/ Thomas Brown what about Richt’s Pocket Dialing recruits and the missing man formation for Crowell? That is Cheating according to you and RICHT didn’t lose his job. Why isn’t Thomas brown/WnE on the UGa blog calling RICHT a cheater and to lose his job?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
4:44 pm
WnE….thanks for responding. But you may want to lay off the Ga Text or you will be associated with this guy….that is, unless you want to be.
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Really?
February 9th, 2012
1:29 pm
Despite all the corruption and the lieing and cheating during his brief time at ga text, texties still support cpj?!! I guess they have been in the cesspool with him so long the texties have learned to float.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
4:45 pm
He’s also upset because Hill seems to have had a good pro day. It kind of cuts to the heart of his “NFL hates GT” idea.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
4:57 pm
re:
WnE….thanks for responding. But you may want to lay off the Ga Text or you will be associated with this guy….that is, unless you want to be.
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Really?
February 9th, 2012
1:29 pm
Despite all the corruption and the lieing and cheating during his brief time at ga text, texties still support cpj?!! I guess they have been in the cesspool with him so long the texties have learned to float.
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Thanks for the heads up high Tech!
You’re a good guy sometimes.
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
4:58 pm
Roadrunner, Charles has run a 4.5 forty but obviously didn’t at pro day, but Hernandez TE for NE runs a 4.64 forty and is a bit smaller than Charles . Charles will do just fine in the NFL. he was 1 st team all sec and was finalist for Mackey Award.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
5:01 pm
re:
He’s also upset because Hill seems to have had a good pro day. It kind of cuts to the heart of his “NFL hates GT” idea.
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That’s not true!
I was one of the FEW GT Fans that applauded the Hill’s decision to go pro, in fact I also said that one more yr. of jump ball passes & smoke routes would do nothing for improving his draft status next yr. so he might as well “gamble” on having a strong combine.
You’re putting out intentional mis-information Stein, I would hope that you’re better than that.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
5:01 pm
BiggDawgK
March 6th, 2012
4:46 pm
Oh well no more “cut” blocks this year. That was the only way cpj could slow down a defense so ga text will be even more pathetic this year and not many people thought that was even possible.
Drew Brees will have a target on his back this year and without the katrina sympathy card to play it will get real ugly for him quickly. Wow how the heck does an organization manage to screw up being handed a free super bowl championship so quickly? All that crack and liquor in that cesspool called new whorleans takes it’s toll on everyone that wallows in the filth.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
4:56 pm
All that crack and liquor in that cesspool called new whorleans takes it’s toll on everyone that wallows in the filth.
LMFAO at that statement. It sounds just like the town Don Leebern has created in Athens.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
5:03 pm
Charles is a good player, Ghost, and I’d love the Falcons to take him (although I doubt he’ll be there at #55). No one should argue that. I do think it suggests the idea of SEC Speed is probably a little overrated, though.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
5:04 pm
I’m putting misinformation out there???? Did you want to go read your comment at 3:56 again?
WnE
March 6th, 2012
5:11 pm
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FL Jacket
March 6th, 2012
4:41 pm
George…
WnE is still obviously upset because Vad Lee stayed with his Tech Commitment and if he performs to his ability…might be in the discussion for a Heisman in the next few years.
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You’re delusional!
There’s no way a QB in 2012 & BEYOND will contest for a Heisman attempting only 13-15 passes PER GAME.
GT doesn’t have the OLs on scholly to throw 30-40 times per game, they don’t have the WRs on scholly to throw 30-40 times per game, and they don’t have the A-Backs that are good enough pass catchers to throw 30-40 times per game.
Vad Lee made the decision to throw away his chance at winning awards on the college level and to play QB in the NFL when he signed with GT, I said my peace a long time ago, it is all on him now.
How did Nesbitt’s Heisman run go for him?
It was JOKE and as a QB under CPJ he was a laughingstock as a Heisman candidate, do you really think that Bohannon can develop a QB that can make a run at a Heisman?
Next yr. will be his 2nd yr. of Bbohannon coaching, after that his QB skillswill be ruined, look at what Tevin has done with 4-yrs. of Bohannon coaching.
Be honest, you don’t really know a lot about CFB do you?
Are you really that delusional?
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
5:14 pm
WnE/ Thomas Brown so what do you say about 35:55minute MURRAY’s chances for the Heisman?
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
5:31 pm
I know his passing numbers were higher, but would RGIII have won the Heisman in CPJ’s offense? I think he would have. I feel bad for Nesbitt because he has the heart of a champion. I thought he deserved Heisman consideration, but the numbers and the season did not play out for him. In the end, I wonder how much of a distraction the Heisman campaign was? I liked the skits by the way. Stay thirsty my friends.
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
5:41 pm
5150, I don’t know about Murrays chances at a Heisman , but he was an Elite 11 and competed quite well with Matt Barkley (winning the elite 11) coming out of High school In the Georgia offense has the chance to put up some big numbers, he has some problems to resolve but he was only a sophomore playing behind a line that wasn;t as good as it should have been and without a consistent rushing attack.He has several talented WR/TE to throw to and should have a pretty good ground game which will make the play action passing game more effective.say what you will about his height, but he has a high release point,when he is on, standing straight and keeping his feet under him he is very very good.I”ll go out on a limb and say his chances are better than Vad Lees.
WnE
March 6th, 2012
5:43 pm
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WnE/ Thomas Brown so what do you say about 35:55minute MURRAY’s chances for the Heisman?
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Murray has no chance to win a Heisman or be a finalist IMO, he makes too many mistakes and bad reads for muttville.
IMO he cost them at least 2 maybe 3 games last season by himself.
USCe
Mich St.
LSU would have been a different game had Murray played better and without the TOs.
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
5:50 pm
Murray was not responsible for multiple drops against LSU or a freaking defensive tackle running untouched for 65 yards on a fake punt.
I don’t particularly like defending a UGA player, but this just proves you know nothing about CFB.
Birmingham Jacket
March 6th, 2012
6:04 pm
Murray is good, not great.
The thing that’s bothering me as a Jacket fan and alum, is Georgia’s defense. They’re beginning to mirror the LSUs and BAMAs.
They have the slack qualifying to bring in athletes that run the 3-4 and absolutely dominate offenses.
We don’t have that luxury… Which is why we should change D-Coords. You don’t run the 3-4 against UGA with a recent graduated senior (bless his heart) at NT!!!
Ghost
March 6th, 2012
6:22 pm
George, You want a coach to replace PJ, hire Briles from Baylor. Knows how to recruit, his offense would attract talent. He know how to recruit and the man is a very good coach. It would take him a recruiting class or 2 to get the talent level up to speed.
Boot Licking Toadie
March 6th, 2012
6:30 pm
Thanks for mentioning a coach to replace PJ. That’s more than WnE ever has typed on this blog. He complains all the time but never offers solutions.
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
6:32 pm
I still can’t believe how well S Hill is grading out for the NFL. People saying first round has just blown my mind.
Birmingham Jacket
March 6th, 2012
7:11 pm
I’ll be a little passive/aggressive…
CPJ and staff pretty good. Just lacking a solid recruiter… That can’t reel in another Nesbitt at QB or DE.
History lesson: Tennessee dominated…won a NC and then went to crap after Rodney Gardner left.
UGA, after acquiring Gardner had finished top 5 in recruiting past 7 yrs. And have kicked our arses since.
A recruiter like Gardner would turn the table with GT.
For those of you who think you understand CFB on this board, trace a point in time.
YOU’VE GOT TO SIGN THE ATHLETES IN FEBRUARY.
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
7:27 pm
Umm High Tech. I would run & hide if I were you. Weenie (WnE) called you a good guy. He may be developing a man crush on you.
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
7:30 pm
Dang George, You might wanna hide too!
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
7:40 pm
What does the 35:55 reference mean relative to Aaron Murray?
5150 UOAD
March 6th, 2012
7:51 pm
(16-11is his record) 27 games with a 59.25% winning X 60 min in a game = 35.55 minutes worth of winning per game. LOL
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
8:15 pm
Oh.
Ken Sugiura
March 6th, 2012
8:55 pm
sorry to take so long to respond.
i didn’t ask about the shotgun. if i had to guess, i think it’s something they’ll use when they get good enough to use it to their advantage. i think johnson’s a pretty practical person.
as for the practice breakdown, i don’t know the percentages of team/unit/individual work. interesting question. remind me to look into it.
HighTech
March 6th, 2012
9:50 pm
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
7:27 pm
Umm High Tech. I would run & hide if I were you. Weenie (WnE) called you a good guy. He may be developing a man crush on you.
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I’m probably too much of a boot licking toady to be his type. lol.
1 4 GT
March 6th, 2012
9:51 pm
Good series of blog topics Ken. CPJ kinda reminds me of someone I know rather intimately. I have been told I too am rather blunt and acerbic in my answers to questions. I saw many one line answers to your questions. But, I would rather have the honest, short answer than a long winded bunch of BS that says nothing–ala politicians. In reference to his comment on coaching duties, specifically the job of coaching QB’s, if the staff allows for one more, hiring Ralph Friedgen as QB/coOC would be a very good move, but I and most of us know that will never happen. To illustrate how college QB coaching is not too good on some staffs, just look at Tim Tebow. He is in the process of relearning how to be an effective passer. I know he had a ton of success at UF, but how much more could he have had with good QB mechanics/skills taught to him at a younger age?
George Stein
March 6th, 2012
10:39 pm
WnE doesn’t want any part of me, 1 4 GT; he knows he’ll get destroyed.
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Buzzman
March 7th, 2012
8:03 am
Like I always said, Defense wins games. Everyone in our league basically knows how to stop the triple option. This will be a long year I’m afraid.
swarmi
March 7th, 2012
8:58 am
Hope VLee has a good year.