Tech still awaiting NCAA response

When Georgia Tech had its in-person hearing with the NCAA appeals committee in November, school officials were told they should expect to receive the verdict in 60 to 90 days.

The 90-day mark passed last Saturday with no word back yet from the NCAA. Friday, NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn said in an e-mail there was no update on the appeal. Tech associate athletic director Wayne Hogan said in an e-mail that the school has not heard from the NCAA.

Those trying to read into the delay won’t find much affirmation from Michael Buckner, an attorney who has represented schools and coaches in NCAA sanctions cases. Sometimes, he said, a delay is just a delay.

“I’ve been through this several times with the appeals committee,” he said. “They’ve always taken a little bit more time than what they originally have estimated.”

USC had its in-person hearing with the NCAA appeals committee in Jan. 2011 and was given a window of four to eight weeks. The verdict denying the school’s appeal arrived in May. Memphis made its in-person appeal regarding its basketball team in late Jan. 2010 and was told the answer would likely arrive in four to six weeks. The school received notice that its appeal was rejected after a seven-week wait.

One reason Bucker gave for the delay is the backlog of appeals that the committee may have to consider.

“One thing I always tell my clients in the appeals process, I’d rather them take their time and get it right than rush through it and not do a good job,” said Buckner.

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Supersize that order, mutt

February 17th, 2012
11:27 am

Hmm, I guess I’m first. Yee Haw. LOL

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
11:28 am

So, there are two common themes among the examples Buckner gives: the NCAA takes longer than it says it will and it denies the appeal.

jod

February 17th, 2012
11:29 am

F the NCAA… that is all

HighTech

February 17th, 2012
11:29 am

“One thing I always tell my clients in the appeals process, I’d rather them take their time and get it right than rush through it and not do a good job,” said Buckner.
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If the NCAA took their time on the front end to get it right, maybe they wouldn’t have a backlog of appeals.

yeller bug

February 17th, 2012
11:36 am

Excellent point High Tech. It seems the NCAA operates in a manner that we in the military often complained about: There’s not enough time to do it right, but there’s plenty of time to do it over. Must be a government thing……..

Ken Sugiura

February 17th, 2012
11:38 am

george – not a crucial point, but those are examples i found; just didn’t want to assign any responsibility to mr. buckner, though they’re benign. regardless, the point is the same. appeals have not been a very successful or timely game of late. good thing the ncaa doesn’t deliver pizzas.

cmon son

February 17th, 2012
11:40 am

If there is one thing uga and tech fans can agree on its that the ncaa is a joke!

Mr. Magoo

February 17th, 2012
11:42 am

Ken, any updates on the coaching search?

Ghost

February 17th, 2012
11:49 am

Is the recent trouble with the assistant coach have any bearing on this appeal?

Really?

February 17th, 2012
11:50 am

Uh oh sounds like it’s bad news for ga text again. I wonder if continued violations while ga text is on probation will help their case or hurt it?

HighTech

February 17th, 2012
12:06 pm

yeller bug

February 17th, 2012
11:36 am
Excellent point High Tech. It seems the NCAA operates in a manner that we in the military often complained about: There’s not enough time to do it right, but there’s plenty of time to do it over. Must be a government thing……..
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It’s the nature of bureaucracy, I guess. Also, thank you for your service to our country. Welcome home.

Burdell

February 17th, 2012
12:06 pm

Is the Georgia “Text” thing supposed to be funny or demeaning? I find it to be neither. Really?

Ga Text

February 17th, 2012
12:11 pm

Maybe they are waiting for DRad to text in his resignation so that the penalties will be reduced. After all, he’s the one who started the chain of disobeying the investigator’s instructions.

ButtText

February 17th, 2012
12:14 pm

How many secondary violations will UGA be allowed before the NCAA has enough?

FL Jacket

February 17th, 2012
12:15 pm

I would think the Todd Spencer situation showed GT’s ability to find a violation internally, report it, and take appropriate action.

The issue at the forefront of GT’s appeal wasn’t the wrongdoing (which was never proven) but the ability of the administration to cooperate and adhere to NCAA guidelines.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
12:16 pm

At least Ga Text has a few of the facts correct. I consider that progress.

I dunno, Ken. If we lose this appeal, I’m totally blaming Michael Buckner.

FL Jacket

February 17th, 2012
12:16 pm

If we are Georgia Text…than I’ll start calling it “University of Driving on the Sidewalk”

Italian_29

February 17th, 2012
12:23 pm

I am not a GA Tech fan, but you guys got SCREWED by the NCAA and they let other programs like The OSU, Miami, and USC West get by with a slap on the wrist for much more. GATA.

Really?

February 17th, 2012
12:28 pm

Burdell

ga text is an apt description of the north avenue trade school. It is not meant to be funny or demeaning. The trade school coaches violated the rules knowingly and with the intentions of cheating while already on probation. If you search the AJC there might be one or two stories concerning the lies and cheating at the trade school.

mwh6767

February 17th, 2012
12:34 pm

You are right Really?, maybe all of the “ga. text” players and coaches should just beat the crap out of their wives and girlfriends. Thats only a two game suspension no probation…

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
12:39 pm

What coachES violated the rule, Really?? Last I checked, there was one, and he was dismissed for a secondary violation. Grow up already.

HighTech

February 17th, 2012
12:46 pm

Really?…Why are you not in school today? Did the other kids put gum in your hair on the school bus?

ty webb

February 17th, 2012
12:46 pm

“maybe all of the “ga. text” players and coaches should just beat the crap out of their wives and girlfriends”

well, that would atleast be a fair fight.

Italian_29

February 17th, 2012
12:49 pm

LMAO at Ty Webb, I wish there was a best comment of the day button. :)

reebok

February 17th, 2012
12:50 pm

So they’re going to make a bad ruling, but at least it’s going to take too long…awesome.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 17th, 2012
12:55 pm

If I were a fan of a school that is a member of the Secondary Education Conference, I guess I would resort to calling names too.

gtfanfrom1951

February 17th, 2012
1:04 pm

TY its the THUGA who like hitting women.

WnE

February 17th, 2012
1:12 pm

Talk about IRONY!

When Coach Fish Fry was hired, the smug elitist segment of the GT fanbase claimed that “he’ll never get us put on PROBATION”, and yet here we are ON PROBATION with CPJ right smack in the middle of it because DRad chose to talk to him after the NCAA Investigators told him not to.

The CFB Gods must really hate GT, because every time the smug, arrogant segment of the GT fanbase runs their mouths, the CFB Gods punish us severely.

Learn your lessons my fellow GT fans keep your pieholes closed and your arrogance to a MINIMUM.

Really?

February 17th, 2012
1:14 pm

gtfanfrom1951

Thank you for being a perfect example of exactly what I meant about the ga text fan base. The north avenue trade school where it’s always 1951 in their hearts and minds.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
1:16 pm

And what fault is that of Johnson’s, WnE?

keyser soze

February 17th, 2012
1:17 pm

“Georgia fans are enlightened and wait until all the facts are presented.”

Without question the funniest thing I have ever read. I may have to leave work for the rest of the day.

dawgfan

February 17th, 2012
1:19 pm

I for one am on pins and needles over this fateful decision. The 2009 All Crap Conference Chumpionship hangs in the balance. How far will the NCAA take this? Will they strip Georgia Tech of its 2009 State of Georgia 2nd Place finish as well? Will they strip Georgia Tech of their one and only major bowl appearance since 1967? The entire nation waits with bated breath!!!

Georgia Tech=JOKE.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
1:20 pm

What’s funny, keyser soze, is that if you look at the UGA blog about Commings, you’ll find a lot of Tech fans commending Richt for punishing the player but not throwing him out of school. Some UGA fans just like to fight against ghosts, I guess.

Really?

February 17th, 2012
1:23 pm

keyser soze

If you leave work early who will drop the fries and cook the quarter pounders?

WnE

February 17th, 2012
1:25 pm

And what fault is that of Johnson’s, WnE?
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The PROBATION happened on his watch, CPJ is GT HC that had us put on probation, AND his ROGUE asst. coach costs us Junior Gnonkonde and then GT tried to cover it all up by saying that the Recruit failed to qualify Academically.

keyser soze

February 17th, 2012
1:26 pm

Very clever, really. You seem to have confused me with someone with a graduate degree from UGA.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
1:27 pm

The probation was not his fault, WnE, unless Johnson knew the NCAA told Radakovich not to tell anyone, which would make the directive useless.

The other part of your statement warrants no response because you can’t prove it.

5 star recruits, 2 star results

February 17th, 2012
1:28 pm

Of course UGA fans have to wait for all the facts to be presented. And once that is done, they may proceed with their defense.

HighTech

February 17th, 2012
1:29 pm

In 1959, a meeting of 2,741 students voted by an overwhelming majority to endorse integration of qualified applicants, regardless of race. Three years after the meeting, and one year after the University of Georgia’s violent integration, Georgia Tech became the first university in the Deep South to desegregate without a court order.

HighTech

February 17th, 2012
1:31 pm

Georgia Tech’s College of Engineering is ranked in:

Hispanic Business Magazine 2011 as the number one best graduate program in the country;
Diverse: Issues in Higher Education as number two in engineering undergraduate degrees awarded to overall minorities;
Diverse: Issues in Higher Education as number two in engineering undergraduate degrees awarded to African American students;
Diverse: Issues in Higher Education as number one in engineering doctorate students awarded to overall minorities;
Diverse: Issues in Higher Education as number one in engineering doctoral degrees awarded to African American students;
Diverse: Issues in Higher Education as number one in engineering doctoral degrees awarded to Asian American students;
American Society for Engineering Education (ASEE) as number one in bachelor’s degrees awarded to women.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
1:32 pm

Often, 5 star recruits, they wait for the facts to come out and then, when the facts don’t fit the narrative, they ignore them. See WnE for an example.

5 star recruits, 2 star results

February 17th, 2012
1:34 pm

I don’t even bother with Wne, no intelligent life found there.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
1:36 pm

Agreed, 5 star.

5 star recruits, 2 star results

February 17th, 2012
1:37 pm

Dawgfan=insecure, little man

Supersize that order, mutt

February 17th, 2012
1:38 pm

@ Really? Your posts are the epitome of hypocrisy. Every day one of your buddies from the cesspool, and probably you yourself, come on Tech blogs accusing Tech players of crimes never proved, or for which all charges were dropped. Commings, rightly or wrongly, was more-or-less tried and convicted by the media, including, I might add, the homer AJC. I haven’t seen anything posted by Tech fans on these blogs that wasn’t previously reported, even if falsely, in the pages of the AJC.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 17th, 2012
1:41 pm

Wiener actually made one intelligent post on one of the blogs this week. I forget now what it was, but needless to say, I was stunned. That was the first and only intelligent thing I have ever seen him post.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
1:42 pm

Wrong, 5 star.

dawgfan = insecure, little woman.

George Stein

February 17th, 2012
1:43 pm

Probably had to do with oversigning, Supersize. But that makes sense because he’s a UGA fan and UGA, to their credit, doesn’t oversign.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 17th, 2012
1:43 pm

George, there are probably some good women who would be offended by your last post. Let’s just make it dawgfan = insecure little child. LOL

HighTech

February 17th, 2012
1:44 pm

Some troglodyte trolls like to call Georgia Tech a ghetto. Is that not racist?