Georgia Tech-BYU date set

Greetings

Not exactly earth-shattering news, but BYU released its 2012 schedule, which includes its date with Georgia Tech, which gives us one more piece of the puzzle. That makes … two pieces. Well, three, assuming we also know the date of the Georgia game (Nov. 24), as well as the Virginia Tech Labor Day game.

BYU will play at Bobby Dodd Stadium Oct. 27. The game will be the ninth in a row for the Cougars; they’ll have their bye after the Tech game.

The ACC should be releasing the entire league schedule soon. Florida State’s search for an opponent to replace West Virginia likely slowed the process.

A couple thoughts:

1. I suspect Tech will play an FCS game five days after the Sept. 3 Labor Day game against Virginia Tech. There’s two ways to go about it, either have the bye week Sept. 8 or try to play on a short week (coming off a road game, no less) and take the bye later. Tech was contracted to play Middle Tennessee State Sept. 8, but I think will push it back to find a presumably safer opponent. I don’t think it will be Southeastern Louisiana, though, which was contracted to play Tech this season, I believe in the opening weekend of the season.

2. At some point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Tech pushes back or shelves its home-and-home with BYU altogether. They’re scheduled to play four games, beginning this fall. When Pitt and Syracuse officially join the ACC and the conference begins a nine-game league schedule, I’m not sure Tech will want to keep an 11th game against a high-level FBS opponent.

Associate AD Wayne Hogan said as much when I talked to him for a story about the ACC’s official addition of Pitt and Syracuse a couple weeks ago, that Tech would likely try to schedule one FCS team and an FBS team from a non-automatic qualifier conference, like Middle Tennessee State.

The possibility that the NCAA may raise the bar for bowl eligibility to seven games is further incentive.

3. One small repercussion is that the chances of Tech playing in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff game probably have become more unlikely. While fans would undoubtedly enjoy a schedule with 11 games against automatic-qualifier schools (the 11th of which would be a high-profile opponent), I’m thinking Paul Johnson may not share that enthusiasm.

4. Another thought for scheduling junkies, which came to mind when I was listening to the 790 the Zone last week when scheduling oracles Wes Durham and Tony Barnhart had Dan Radakovich on their “Barnhart & Durham” show.

Radakovich was saying that, when Pitt and Syracuse enter the league (my guess is 2013), he will seek to amend the scheduling quirk that has Virginia Tech, Georgia, Clemson and North Carolina all on the same road-home rotation.

Another piece of this is that the ACC teams will play five home league games one year and four the next, and that the league will try to ensure that one year the Atlantic has five home games and the next year the Coastal does to ensure some level of equity in the division races.

Anyway, it occurred to me that I’d think that Tech will try to see to it that Georgia is at home the years that Tech has the four home games in order to give the home schedule some balance. If it were the other way around, Tech would have to play the other two non-conference games at home just to get to six home games, which presumably gives a queasy feeling to anyone whose paycheck depends on ticket revenues.

I don’t know how much the annual South Carolina-Clemson/Florida-Florida State/Georgia-Tech games will be a factor in the scheduling process, but if so, it actually could work out favorably in that regard. Clemson and FSU play their rivals at home in even years, so the Atlantic could play its four home games in those years, allowing Clemson and FSU to bank the South Carolina and Florida games as their fifth home games, while Georgia could be Tech’s fifth home game in the odd years.

The one flaw (of presumably many) is that while this may suit the needs of three schools, it may be problematic for the 11 others. Wake Forest, for instance, in the middle of a season-ending home-and-home with Vanderbilt that they may want to extend. Wake is on the opposite cycle as Clemson and FSU, so they could be in the position of having six locked-in home games one year and four the other.

Anyway, food for thought.

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

208 comments Add your comment

DawginSewer

February 14th, 2012
12:03 pm

Firstes, yeas doggies

spider

February 14th, 2012
12:08 pm

i cant believe we still have to play those thugs, cheaters, liars, from BYU.

spider

February 14th, 2012
12:10 pm

well at least byu at home this year but next year when we go out there we have any chance of winning that game as they will cheat during the game too make sure they win,,TRUST ME ON THIS and if you dont believe me ask any SDSU fan.

Brave Hokie

February 14th, 2012
12:23 pm

My head is swimming…

spider???

February 14th, 2012
12:31 pm

why do you say that?

spider???

February 14th, 2012
12:34 pm

Ah just another bitter sdsu fan…

Boring...

February 14th, 2012
12:37 pm

‘Tech would likely try to schedule one FCS team and an FBS team from a non-automatic qualifier conference, like Middle Tennessee State.’

SOOOOO basically…the only game that would be interesting would be the annual uga-gt match up…talk about a bore…

As weak and pathetic UGA’s schedule might be, Tech has no room to talk either L

spider

February 14th, 2012
12:47 pm

i said it because it is very true, and by the way tech fans making the trip out there next year too byu dont even think about visiting a morman church unless you are a morman because you are not good enough of a person too go into their church not even too look around…and you are damn right im a bitter SDSU fan. GO JACKETS, GO SDSU, GO TOREROS, GO EVERYONE WHO PLAYS byu.

spider

February 14th, 2012
12:49 pm

down with the NCAA for not giving byu the death penalty for cheating on the field of play at the end of the game that changed the outcome of the game and gave byu a 6th win and put them in a bowl that that the cheater didnt deserve.

Outside Observer

February 14th, 2012
12:49 pm

Ken, why is CPJ so adamant against scheduling better opponents? Obviously having one game against a scrub team would be a good warmup for the season, but to be against playing a solid school like BYU, or in the Chicfila kickoff against another SEC school seems foolish. They are more likely to bring in revenue than a Middle Tennessee or a Southeast Louisiana.

spider

February 14th, 2012
1:04 pm

i agree with you outside obwerver except the part of byu being a solid school.

Brave Hokie

February 14th, 2012
1:10 pm

When I woke this morning, little did I know I was going to read anti-mormanetic posts on an AJC sports blog today… Hmmmmm

BYU still likes you, Spider

February 14th, 2012
1:19 pm

Remember how BYU beats SDSU EVERY time they play? I’m not sure how BYU finds a way to cheat every game?? We are very excited to play a quality program like Georgia Tech. I hope we’re able to play the entire series.

Gr8 2B aFuzzyB

February 14th, 2012
1:19 pm

@ spider. For the rest of us who don’t follow SDSU and BYU, why don’t you put some meat on the bone and tell us what aggregious acts BYU engaged in to get you so worked up.

dawgfan

February 14th, 2012
1:20 pm

“Not exactly earth-shattering news…”

LOL

BYU still likes you, Spider

February 14th, 2012
1:21 pm

Also, you can come to a Mormon church at any time. We welcome everyone.

Ken Sugiura

February 14th, 2012
1:25 pm

outside observer – i don’t think it’s just Paul Johnson. I think most coaches have the same philosophy. i’d agree that playing an SEC team would likely bring in more revenue than MTSU, but Paul Johnson’s job isn’t to sell tickets. I imagine if Johnson (or any coach) had a clause in his contract that said he wouldn’t be judged by losses to equal or superior teams, they’d be more amenable to it.
Spider – we get that you don’t like BYU. let’s move on.

Richard

February 14th, 2012
1:28 pm

It makes me shudder to think that MTSU isn’t considered safe enough.

WnE

February 14th, 2012
1:34 pm

2. At some point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Tech pushes back or shelves its home-and-home with BYU altogether. They’re scheduled to play four games, beginning this fall. When Pitt and Syracuse officially join the ACC and the conference begins a nine-game league schedule, I’m not sure Tech will want to keep an 11th game against a high-level FBS opponent.
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BYU is from a non-AQ Conference, how can they be considered a “high-level FBS opponent”?

WnE

February 14th, 2012
1:34 pm

2. At some point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Tech pushes back or shelves its home-and-home with BYU altogether. They’re scheduled to play four games, beginning this fall. When Pitt and Syracuse officially join the ACC and the conference begins a nine-game league schedule, I’m not sure Tech will want to keep an 11th game against a high-level FBS opponent.
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BYU is from a non-AQ Conference, how can they be considered a “high-level FBS opponent”?

spider

February 14th, 2012
1:34 pm

ok ken lets move on. im a college sports fan that tries too support all college athletics, i have been too several div 11 and naia games along with many gt games in all sports and had no problem with byu until last year when they kicked a kid of their basketball team for having sex and then they come and claim(in the ajc vent) that if all coleges had their morals all would be well in college athletics, this after they blatantly cheated on the field at the end of a football game that changed the outcome of the game and put them is bowl game….TOTAL CRAP.

George Stein

February 14th, 2012
1:36 pm

No one is safe after five days, Richard.

George Stein

February 14th, 2012
1:37 pm

False, WnE. BYU is not in ANY conference.

WnE

February 14th, 2012
1:37 pm

GT should go to playing only D1-A teams from BCS Conferences for OOC-Games, the Conference could use the bump in reputation, and GT could use the revenue from better attendance.

Either way, GT should NEVER play OOC-Games vs. D1-AA teams.

WnE

February 14th, 2012
1:39 pm

Recently news recent move, Stein they are still perceived to be a WAC Team.

WnE

February 14th, 2012
1:41 pm

Either way Stein BYU is not an AQ-BCS Team, so how can they be considered a “high-level FBS Team”?

spider

February 14th, 2012
1:41 pm

that is right george, they are no longer in any conference for football so they can play by their own rules(warning GT fans) in home footbll games. there other sports are in a nother conference out west now.

George Stein

February 14th, 2012
1:42 pm

BYU’s record over the past five years:

2007: 11-2; wins over Arizona, TCU, UCLA, & Utah
2008: 10-3; wins over Washington and UCLA
2009: 11-2; wins over Oklahoma, Utah, and Oregon St
2010: 7-6; win over Washington
2011: 10-3; wins over Ole Miss and Oregon St

George Stein

February 14th, 2012
1:43 pm

Get rid of the AQ nonsense, WnE. It won’t matter in two years.

George Stein

February 14th, 2012
1:43 pm

It’s about your history of bending or ignoring facts, WnE.

George Stein

February 14th, 2012
1:44 pm

Not sure what your issue with Mormons is, spider, but it’s unbecoming of you.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
1:45 pm

Ken…Weren’t empty seats one of the main reasons Paul Hewitt was let go? Some sports writers are saying many of the old rivalries are going away due to conference consolidation, but there is no talk of playing fewer lower division cupcakes. I think it is a disservice to the fans. I think we should still have Auburn on our schedule every year instead of Western Carolina or MTSU.

spider

February 14th, 2012
1:48 pm

byu non football sports are in the WEST COAST CONFERENCE now.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
1:50 pm

spider…Does SDSU ever play Notre Dame, SMU, TCU, Baylor, Boston College, or Wake Forest?

Boring...

February 14th, 2012
1:52 pm

Agreed with HighTech, I probably won’t bother watching those games, let alone consider going to those games even if they might be in Atlanta.

Games against Auburn I’d be much more likely to go to, even if not at home.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
1:55 pm

Games against Auburn I’d be much more likely to go to, even if not at home.
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As weak and pathetic UGA’s schedule might be, Tech has no room to talk either L
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Boring…you would only go to a game in Atlanta if Tech was playing UGA anyway.

WnE

February 14th, 2012
1:56 pm

Associate AD Wayne Hogan said as much when I talked to him for a story about the ACC’s official addition of Pitt and Syracuse a couple weeks ago, that Tech would likely try to schedule one FCS team and an FBS team from a non-automatic qualifier conference, like Middle Tennessee State.
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Someone needs to tell the GTAA and Hogan that this type of scheduling works IF you have an SEC Regular season to fall back on, but if you schedule like that with an ACC-Schedule to fall back on then your Program will have attendance problems which GT does indeed have.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
1:59 pm

WnE

February 12th, 2012
9:50 pm
“UGA may have blown a golden opportunity to gain inside position on Nkemdiche with the way they handled his brother’s situation. Denzel made it known that he wished to sign with UGA but he was aggressively pursued and signed with Ole Miss before UGA got seriously involved.

“Yes, that would’ve made a difference for me with Georgia,” Robert Nkemdiche said. “I never really understood it. Georgia just waited too long and [Denzel] went ahead and signed with Ole Miss. But I like Georgia. It’s fine that my brother is not there. I still like Georgia.””
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This is NOT fair reporting & journalism in any way!

His older brother was a VERY LATE QUALIFIER, and at a school like UGA that doesn’t OVER-SIGN like U. Miss. did under Houston Nutt , then there was no way that UGA could hold a spot for his Brother without acting to the DETRIMENT of the UGA FB Program.

If you are going to include inflammatory and accusatory passages like the one above, then at least provide BALANCE and the other side of the story.

It is unfair to ask ANY HC (especially ones that DON’T OVER-SIGN) to hold open a spot for a non-Qualifier when there are other Recruits that are qualifiers that are just as good, when he did Qualify, UGA was again interested, but he wanted to go to Ole Miss.

Schools that DON’T OVER-SIGN cannot do what Ole Miss did with Nkemdiche’s older brother and that shouldn’t be held against UGA.

The family can still hold it against UGA, but the Print Media (the AJC) should not hold it against UGA by writing an article that doesn’t provide balance and give BOTH sides of the story.

And even though he is the #1 recruit in the country, he does take quite a few “plays off” in the Games that I have seen over the last 2 seasons, he doesn’t seem to have the “motor” of a Jadeveon Clowney when he came out of HS last yr. and went to USCe.

But the AJC shouldn’t tell half the story, and they should have also asked the TOUGH QUESTION about whether it is fair to expect UGA to hold open a scholly for their Brother when he was the one that was very late to qualify.
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That’s the most impassioned defense of UGA I’ve ever seen from a supposed Tech alumnus.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
2:00 pm

WnE….Are you one of those people who chant “SEC” at every opportunity?

spider

February 14th, 2012
2:01 pm

hey byu stll like me, i tried to visit your beauiful church out here in san diego on I 5 a few years ago and they flat out refused me entrance because i was not of their religion but i will try again in the next few days and if they have changed their rules and let me in i will gladly get back on this blog or the ajc vent and apologize.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 14th, 2012
2:01 pm

spider, it might behoove you to learn how to spell. You used the word “too” every time you should have used the word “to,” and you referred to the church of latter day saints as “Morman”; the correct spelling is “Mormon.” As far as your gripes against BYU, they may be valid, but you really should spell out just what they did wrong. I don’t follow BYU or SDSU football, so I don’t have a clue what you are talking about, and I doubt that many, if any, others do either.

George Stein

February 14th, 2012
2:01 pm

Depends on what the objective of the schedule is, WnE.

Supersize that order, mutt

February 14th, 2012
2:04 pm

Granted, sidewalk fans will only go to games with quality opponents, but a TRUE FAN of ANY school will do his best to go to ALL games, regardless of the opponent.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
2:06 pm

Spider…tell them you’ve read the Book of Mormon and want to Choose the Right. I’ve never been to a Latter Day Saints church, but my guess is that will get you in.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
2:07 pm

Supersize…You are absolutely right. But I think they (all schools) take advantage of our loyalty, enthusiasm, and money when they schedule cupcakes.

spider

February 14th, 2012
2:08 pm

hi tech, no too your question, they are in the mountain west for 1 more year then the football team will supposedly be playing in the the big east(makes no sense to me) and the rest of their sports will be playing in the pac west.

HighTech

February 14th, 2012
2:10 pm

spider…I was just curious if we would get to read an anti-Catholic, anti-Baptist, anti-Methodist, or anti-Christian rant if SDSU did play any of them.

spider

February 14th, 2012
2:10 pm

this move most suredly will hurt their fine basketball program that steve fisher has built up but im just a college sports fan than does not understand any of this moving around in div

TechFanForever

February 14th, 2012
2:10 pm

I rather talk about Vad Lee and Justin Thomas!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spider

February 14th, 2012
2:11 pm

div 1 sports.