Georgia Tech-BYU date set
Greetings
Not exactly earth-shattering news, but BYU released its 2012 schedule, which includes its date with Georgia Tech, which gives us one more piece of the puzzle. That makes … two pieces. Well, three, assuming we also know the date of the Georgia game (Nov. 24), as well as the Virginia Tech Labor Day game.
BYU will play at Bobby Dodd Stadium Oct. 27. The game will be the ninth in a row for the Cougars; they’ll have their bye after the Tech game.
The ACC should be releasing the entire league schedule soon. Florida State’s search for an opponent to replace West Virginia likely slowed the process.
A couple thoughts:
1. I suspect Tech will play an FCS game five days after the Sept. 3 Labor Day game against Virginia Tech. There’s two ways to go about it, either have the bye week Sept. 8 or try to play on a short week (coming off a road game, no less) and take the bye later. Tech was contracted to play Middle Tennessee State Sept. 8, but I think will push it back to find a presumably safer opponent. I don’t think it will be Southeastern Louisiana, though, which was contracted to play Tech this season, I believe in the opening weekend of the season.
2. At some point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Tech pushes back or shelves its home-and-home with BYU altogether. They’re scheduled to play four games, beginning this fall. When Pitt and Syracuse officially join the ACC and the conference begins a nine-game league schedule, I’m not sure Tech will want to keep an 11th game against a high-level FBS opponent.
Associate AD Wayne Hogan said as much when I talked to him for a story about the ACC’s official addition of Pitt and Syracuse a couple weeks ago, that Tech would likely try to schedule one FCS team and an FBS team from a non-automatic qualifier conference, like Middle Tennessee State.
The possibility that the NCAA may raise the bar for bowl eligibility to seven games is further incentive.
3. One small repercussion is that the chances of Tech playing in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff game probably have become more unlikely. While fans would undoubtedly enjoy a schedule with 11 games against automatic-qualifier schools (the 11th of which would be a high-profile opponent), I’m thinking Paul Johnson may not share that enthusiasm.
4. Another thought for scheduling junkies, which came to mind when I was listening to the 790 the Zone last week when scheduling oracles Wes Durham and Tony Barnhart had Dan Radakovich on their “Barnhart & Durham” show.
Radakovich was saying that, when Pitt and Syracuse enter the league (my guess is 2013), he will seek to amend the scheduling quirk that has Virginia Tech, Georgia, Clemson and North Carolina all on the same road-home rotation.
Another piece of this is that the ACC teams will play five home league games one year and four the next, and that the league will try to ensure that one year the Atlantic has five home games and the next year the Coastal does to ensure some level of equity in the division races.
Anyway, it occurred to me that I’d think that Tech will try to see to it that Georgia is at home the years that Tech has the four home games in order to give the home schedule some balance. If it were the other way around, Tech would have to play the other two non-conference games at home just to get to six home games, which presumably gives a queasy feeling to anyone whose paycheck depends on ticket revenues.
I don’t know how much the annual South Carolina-Clemson/Florida-Florida State/Georgia-Tech games will be a factor in the scheduling process, but if so, it actually could work out favorably in that regard. Clemson and FSU play their rivals at home in even years, so the Atlantic could play its four home games in those years, allowing Clemson and FSU to bank the South Carolina and Florida games as their fifth home games, while Georgia could be Tech’s fifth home game in the odd years.
The one flaw (of presumably many) is that while this may suit the needs of three schools, it may be problematic for the 11 others. Wake Forest, for instance, in the middle of a season-ending home-and-home with Vanderbilt that they may want to extend. Wake is on the opposite cycle as Clemson and FSU, so they could be in the position of having six locked-in home games one year and four the other.
Anyway, food for thought.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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DawginSewer
February 14th, 2012
12:03 pm
Firstes, yeas doggies
spider
February 14th, 2012
12:08 pm
i cant believe we still have to play those thugs, cheaters, liars, from BYU.
spider
February 14th, 2012
12:10 pm
well at least byu at home this year but next year when we go out there we have any chance of winning that game as they will cheat during the game too make sure they win,,TRUST ME ON THIS and if you dont believe me ask any SDSU fan.
Brave Hokie
February 14th, 2012
12:23 pm
My head is swimming…
spider???
February 14th, 2012
12:31 pm
why do you say that?
spider???
February 14th, 2012
12:34 pm
Ah just another bitter sdsu fan…
Boring...
February 14th, 2012
12:37 pm
‘Tech would likely try to schedule one FCS team and an FBS team from a non-automatic qualifier conference, like Middle Tennessee State.’
SOOOOO basically…the only game that would be interesting would be the annual uga-gt match up…talk about a bore…
As weak and pathetic UGA’s schedule might be, Tech has no room to talk either L
spider
February 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
i said it because it is very true, and by the way tech fans making the trip out there next year too byu dont even think about visiting a morman church unless you are a morman because you are not good enough of a person too go into their church not even too look around…and you are damn right im a bitter SDSU fan. GO JACKETS, GO SDSU, GO TOREROS, GO EVERYONE WHO PLAYS byu.
spider
February 14th, 2012
12:49 pm
down with the NCAA for not giving byu the death penalty for cheating on the field of play at the end of the game that changed the outcome of the game and gave byu a 6th win and put them in a bowl that that the cheater didnt deserve.
Outside Observer
February 14th, 2012
12:49 pm
Ken, why is CPJ so adamant against scheduling better opponents? Obviously having one game against a scrub team would be a good warmup for the season, but to be against playing a solid school like BYU, or in the Chicfila kickoff against another SEC school seems foolish. They are more likely to bring in revenue than a Middle Tennessee or a Southeast Louisiana.
spider
February 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
i agree with you outside obwerver except the part of byu being a solid school.
Brave Hokie
February 14th, 2012
1:10 pm
When I woke this morning, little did I know I was going to read anti-mormanetic posts on an AJC sports blog today… Hmmmmm
BYU still likes you, Spider
February 14th, 2012
1:19 pm
Remember how BYU beats SDSU EVERY time they play? I’m not sure how BYU finds a way to cheat every game?? We are very excited to play a quality program like Georgia Tech. I hope we’re able to play the entire series.
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
February 14th, 2012
1:19 pm
@ spider. For the rest of us who don’t follow SDSU and BYU, why don’t you put some meat on the bone and tell us what aggregious acts BYU engaged in to get you so worked up.
dawgfan
February 14th, 2012
1:20 pm
“Not exactly earth-shattering news…”
LOL
BYU still likes you, Spider
February 14th, 2012
1:21 pm
Also, you can come to a Mormon church at any time. We welcome everyone.
Ken Sugiura
February 14th, 2012
1:25 pm
outside observer – i don’t think it’s just Paul Johnson. I think most coaches have the same philosophy. i’d agree that playing an SEC team would likely bring in more revenue than MTSU, but Paul Johnson’s job isn’t to sell tickets. I imagine if Johnson (or any coach) had a clause in his contract that said he wouldn’t be judged by losses to equal or superior teams, they’d be more amenable to it.
Spider – we get that you don’t like BYU. let’s move on.
Richard
February 14th, 2012
1:28 pm
It makes me shudder to think that MTSU isn’t considered safe enough.
WnE
February 14th, 2012
1:34 pm
2. At some point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Tech pushes back or shelves its home-and-home with BYU altogether. They’re scheduled to play four games, beginning this fall. When Pitt and Syracuse officially join the ACC and the conference begins a nine-game league schedule, I’m not sure Tech will want to keep an 11th game against a high-level FBS opponent.
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BYU is from a non-AQ Conference, how can they be considered a “high-level FBS opponent”?
WnE
February 14th, 2012
1:34 pm
2. At some point, it wouldn’t surprise me if Tech pushes back or shelves its home-and-home with BYU altogether. They’re scheduled to play four games, beginning this fall. When Pitt and Syracuse officially join the ACC and the conference begins a nine-game league schedule, I’m not sure Tech will want to keep an 11th game against a high-level FBS opponent.
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BYU is from a non-AQ Conference, how can they be considered a “high-level FBS opponent”?
spider
February 14th, 2012
1:34 pm
ok ken lets move on. im a college sports fan that tries too support all college athletics, i have been too several div 11 and naia games along with many gt games in all sports and had no problem with byu until last year when they kicked a kid of their basketball team for having sex and then they come and claim(in the ajc vent) that if all coleges had their morals all would be well in college athletics, this after they blatantly cheated on the field at the end of a football game that changed the outcome of the game and put them is bowl game….TOTAL CRAP.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
1:36 pm
No one is safe after five days, Richard.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
1:37 pm
False, WnE. BYU is not in ANY conference.
WnE
February 14th, 2012
1:37 pm
GT should go to playing only D1-A teams from BCS Conferences for OOC-Games, the Conference could use the bump in reputation, and GT could use the revenue from better attendance.
Either way, GT should NEVER play OOC-Games vs. D1-AA teams.
WnE
February 14th, 2012
1:39 pm
Recently news recent move, Stein they are still perceived to be a WAC Team.
WnE
February 14th, 2012
1:41 pm
Either way Stein BYU is not an AQ-BCS Team, so how can they be considered a “high-level FBS Team”?
spider
February 14th, 2012
1:41 pm
that is right george, they are no longer in any conference for football so they can play by their own rules(warning GT fans) in home footbll games. there other sports are in a nother conference out west now.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
1:42 pm
BYU’s record over the past five years:
2007: 11-2; wins over Arizona, TCU, UCLA, & Utah
2008: 10-3; wins over Washington and UCLA
2009: 11-2; wins over Oklahoma, Utah, and Oregon St
2010: 7-6; win over Washington
2011: 10-3; wins over Ole Miss and Oregon St
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
1:43 pm
Get rid of the AQ nonsense, WnE. It won’t matter in two years.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
1:43 pm
It’s about your history of bending or ignoring facts, WnE.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
1:44 pm
Not sure what your issue with Mormons is, spider, but it’s unbecoming of you.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
1:45 pm
Ken…Weren’t empty seats one of the main reasons Paul Hewitt was let go? Some sports writers are saying many of the old rivalries are going away due to conference consolidation, but there is no talk of playing fewer lower division cupcakes. I think it is a disservice to the fans. I think we should still have Auburn on our schedule every year instead of Western Carolina or MTSU.
spider
February 14th, 2012
1:48 pm
byu non football sports are in the WEST COAST CONFERENCE now.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
1:50 pm
spider…Does SDSU ever play Notre Dame, SMU, TCU, Baylor, Boston College, or Wake Forest?
Boring...
February 14th, 2012
1:52 pm
Agreed with HighTech, I probably won’t bother watching those games, let alone consider going to those games even if they might be in Atlanta.
Games against Auburn I’d be much more likely to go to, even if not at home.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
1:55 pm
Games against Auburn I’d be much more likely to go to, even if not at home.
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As weak and pathetic UGA’s schedule might be, Tech has no room to talk either L
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Boring…you would only go to a game in Atlanta if Tech was playing UGA anyway.
WnE
February 14th, 2012
1:56 pm
Associate AD Wayne Hogan said as much when I talked to him for a story about the ACC’s official addition of Pitt and Syracuse a couple weeks ago, that Tech would likely try to schedule one FCS team and an FBS team from a non-automatic qualifier conference, like Middle Tennessee State.
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Someone needs to tell the GTAA and Hogan that this type of scheduling works IF you have an SEC Regular season to fall back on, but if you schedule like that with an ACC-Schedule to fall back on then your Program will have attendance problems which GT does indeed have.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
1:59 pm
WnE
February 12th, 2012
9:50 pm
“UGA may have blown a golden opportunity to gain inside position on Nkemdiche with the way they handled his brother’s situation. Denzel made it known that he wished to sign with UGA but he was aggressively pursued and signed with Ole Miss before UGA got seriously involved.
“Yes, that would’ve made a difference for me with Georgia,” Robert Nkemdiche said. “I never really understood it. Georgia just waited too long and [Denzel] went ahead and signed with Ole Miss. But I like Georgia. It’s fine that my brother is not there. I still like Georgia.””
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This is NOT fair reporting & journalism in any way!
His older brother was a VERY LATE QUALIFIER, and at a school like UGA that doesn’t OVER-SIGN like U. Miss. did under Houston Nutt , then there was no way that UGA could hold a spot for his Brother without acting to the DETRIMENT of the UGA FB Program.
If you are going to include inflammatory and accusatory passages like the one above, then at least provide BALANCE and the other side of the story.
It is unfair to ask ANY HC (especially ones that DON’T OVER-SIGN) to hold open a spot for a non-Qualifier when there are other Recruits that are qualifiers that are just as good, when he did Qualify, UGA was again interested, but he wanted to go to Ole Miss.
Schools that DON’T OVER-SIGN cannot do what Ole Miss did with Nkemdiche’s older brother and that shouldn’t be held against UGA.
The family can still hold it against UGA, but the Print Media (the AJC) should not hold it against UGA by writing an article that doesn’t provide balance and give BOTH sides of the story.
And even though he is the #1 recruit in the country, he does take quite a few “plays off” in the Games that I have seen over the last 2 seasons, he doesn’t seem to have the “motor” of a Jadeveon Clowney when he came out of HS last yr. and went to USCe.
But the AJC shouldn’t tell half the story, and they should have also asked the TOUGH QUESTION about whether it is fair to expect UGA to hold open a scholly for their Brother when he was the one that was very late to qualify.
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That’s the most impassioned defense of UGA I’ve ever seen from a supposed Tech alumnus.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
WnE….Are you one of those people who chant “SEC” at every opportunity?
spider
February 14th, 2012
2:01 pm
hey byu stll like me, i tried to visit your beauiful church out here in san diego on I 5 a few years ago and they flat out refused me entrance because i was not of their religion but i will try again in the next few days and if they have changed their rules and let me in i will gladly get back on this blog or the ajc vent and apologize.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
2:01 pm
spider, it might behoove you to learn how to spell. You used the word “too” every time you should have used the word “to,” and you referred to the church of latter day saints as “Morman”; the correct spelling is “Mormon.” As far as your gripes against BYU, they may be valid, but you really should spell out just what they did wrong. I don’t follow BYU or SDSU football, so I don’t have a clue what you are talking about, and I doubt that many, if any, others do either.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
2:01 pm
Depends on what the objective of the schedule is, WnE.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
2:04 pm
Granted, sidewalk fans will only go to games with quality opponents, but a TRUE FAN of ANY school will do his best to go to ALL games, regardless of the opponent.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:06 pm
Spider…tell them you’ve read the Book of Mormon and want to Choose the Right. I’ve never been to a Latter Day Saints church, but my guess is that will get you in.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:07 pm
Supersize…You are absolutely right. But I think they (all schools) take advantage of our loyalty, enthusiasm, and money when they schedule cupcakes.
spider
February 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
hi tech, no too your question, they are in the mountain west for 1 more year then the football team will supposedly be playing in the the big east(makes no sense to me) and the rest of their sports will be playing in the pac west.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
spider…I was just curious if we would get to read an anti-Catholic, anti-Baptist, anti-Methodist, or anti-Christian rant if SDSU did play any of them.
spider
February 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
this move most suredly will hurt their fine basketball program that steve fisher has built up but im just a college sports fan than does not understand any of this moving around in div
TechFanForever
February 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
I rather talk about Vad Lee and Justin Thomas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spider
February 14th, 2012
2:11 pm
div 1 sports.
Boring...
February 14th, 2012
2:11 pm
As weak and pathetic UGA’s schedule might be, Tech has no room to talk either L
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Boring…you would only go to a game in Atlanta if Tech was playing UGA anyway.
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‘Would’
Right pal…I like how you saw the need to hate on me without me doing anything.
Anyways, I’ve been to a number of GT games, and will continue to do so. Anyways, a crappy schedule is crappy despite how in love with a team you may be.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
Boring…how did I hate on you? Did I call you a name? I’m glad you’ve been to a number of GT games. I hope you had a good time. Gold Standard and all that good stuff.
Tech Fan Since 1950
February 14th, 2012
2:20 pm
There is no excuse for the ACC to always be this late in releasing the conference football schedule. I know the deal about FSU and West Virginia, but that is just an excuse. The reason we know about BYU is because they released the schedule out of Utah. The SEC and other conferences already have schedules out. Even Furman University and the Southern Conference have posted schedules. When interviewed ACC athletic directors always talk about schedules being made so far in advance so they really do know who they are supposed to play. It is time for the ACC to get its act together. When Pitt and Syracuse get into league play maybe the situation will stabilize, but I am not counting on it. AND please do not tell me about the TV people.
Ben
February 14th, 2012
2:26 pm
great. nothing but cupcakes out of conference. sure give us no reason to attend games. why can’t they rotate between aub, ole miss, miss st vandy tenn s carolina la tech kentucky. these are teams on par with gt that i would love to see up play. we did play miss st and vandy recently so put those on the back end.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:32 pm
Ben…everyone, it seems, schedules cupcakes, but that does not make it right.
Ben
February 14th, 2012
2:35 pm
High what do you think duke wake and a couple of other acc teams are each year? Cupcakes. One for the first game is enough when you play these teams in the reg season
GIVE ME A BREAK
February 14th, 2012
2:35 pm
Drop MTS and FCS, play Tennessee, Vandy, Kentucky ,Ga. State, Ga. Southern or any team that would generate interest and ticket sales. Elon,really?
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
February 14th, 2012
2:36 pm
Super, I asked the same thing of spider but he wasn’t able to be any more specific about his “cheating on the field” allegation. Just sounds like a sore loser.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:41 pm
Ben…Duke, Wake, and any other ACC teams are conference games. Just like Vandy, Ole Miss, and a couple of other SEC teams would be for the Dawgs. Cutcliffe is building a program at Duke and Wake has been competitive in the recent past. You may not be old enough to remember when Duke used to spoil our homecoming when Spurrier was the coach there. Or, you may be a Dawg fan who chants “SEC” while LSU is pounding you on national tv.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
2:46 pm
Is Elon on the schedule? How do they compare to Western Carolina?
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
2:47 pm
We don’t play Wake every season, Ben.
GT fan
February 14th, 2012
2:59 pm
Wish Tech would drop Georgia, you cant them and every year it keeps getting embarrassing losing to them and with PJ, we will never beat them again.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
3:12 pm
Idiots like “GT fan” are out in abundance…
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
3:23 pm
Gt Fan, IMHO PJ would probably lead the charge to drop UGA with any legitimate excuse.Winning once 5 or 6 years wouldn’t be a very appealing proposition to any coach.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
To quote the most ignorant of all dwags, and I AM quoting—–GT fan “your an idiot” LOL
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
Give Me a Break, for whatever reason, Tennessee WILL NOT play Tech.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
3:26 pm
Tell us all who we should hire, GT fan, that would beat UGA with any consistency. I’m all ears.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:27 pm
George, I think you probably agree with me on this, but I haven’t given up on CPJ. I think he WILL beat the dwags again, and on a regular basis once it gets started.
OGSuperfan
February 14th, 2012
3:27 pm
BYU Cougar fan here – hope we can play out this series with GT; as a fan base we are really excited to be playing a quality school like GT. Going independent in football was a tough thing for us as a fan base to accept; mainly because of the scheduling difficulties. GT scheduling with us was exciting and our scheduling has gotten better and will continue to improve if you look at our 2013 and other future existing schedules.
I’m excited for this upcoming year, good luck to GT and I’m looking forward to a good football series.
PS- Spider, come out to Dallas TX and you can go to church with me if you are interested and really want to go
GTBob
February 14th, 2012
3:32 pm
I wet myself at night.
I havent showered in a full year
I play with barbie dolls that have no heads
I am in love with koolaidbar
I get owned every where I post.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
3:33 pm
OGSuperfan…
Catching us at the end of 9 straight weeks and playing in Atlanta is a tough draw “fo sho”…but happy to play a good out of conference opponent and seek some vengeance against Utah! (sorry you’re getting lumped in with UofU)
Really?
February 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
Other than spider aiming his hate at byu instead of Georgia he seems like the average textie that posts on this blog.
Informative well done story as always though Ken.
GIVE ME A BREAK
February 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
Elon is 2013, can’t wait for Alabama in 2019. Didn’t know that, Super, thought Dooley might want a piece of GT. lol
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
Really?…did you have a good day at school today? I hope none of the other girls were mean to you. Kids can be so cruel in middle school.
Really?
February 14th, 2012
3:44 pm
gt bob
Everyone already knew all that but it’s good to see you finally admitting it. Your state mandated doctors will be proud of you.
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
3:45 pm
Supersize , No disrespect intended , but Tech hasn’t beaten UGA with consistency in 55 years. PJ isn’t the answer (and no George I don’t have the answer but hiring someone with some major college recruiting experience would be a start ) not saying Tech can’t beat UGA with PJ , (on any given Saturday anything can happen ) but it will be a rare occurrence. Its just my opinion but PJ is out of his league.
Really?
February 14th, 2012
3:47 pm
high tech
I don’t work in the education field. Why are you and the other girls mean to kids in middle school?
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
3:48 pm
Then it probably isn’t the coach, Ghost. The biggest issue – as I see it – is that UGA is going through the longest period of sustained success in its history. It’s frustrating but it’s a fact. Things won’t always be like this.
I’ve definitely not given up on Johnson, Supersize. In fact, I think he’s a terrific coach that fits our school perfectly.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:48 pm
@Ghost, I know the past history, but whether you like CPJ or not, he has kept us competitive with UGA, and with any kind of improved defense (of which I see signs already) and a QB who can consistently complete passes when needed, there’s no reason why competitiveness won’t lead to wins.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
3:48 pm
Ghost…
Explain to me how 34-19, 2 Coastal division, and an ACC title in 4 years means “out of his league”.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
3:48 pm
Really?…I didn’t think you worked. Based on the content of your posts, you seem like a little middle school girl with self-esteem issues. If you had some positive role models, you might be more popular with the other kids.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:49 pm
@ George, I thought we were in agreement on that, and I look for BIG things to happen under him. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and people forget how bad Ross was looking before 1990.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
3:51 pm
My mistaken belief in 1990 was that Ross would be around for awhile. He seemed like a decent man and probably could have stayed until retirement.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:51 pm
HT, Really? obviously is one of those people with a terrible inferiority complex who overcompensates for it by taking on the role of the school-yard bully. He thinks he’s tough, but in reality, everybody still laughs at him and all his inadequacies.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
3:54 pm
He’s too smart not to be successful here, Supersize. People keep hammering him on recruiting but the facts are that he’s recruiting a bit better than Chan.
I’m frustrated by folks who say we should terminate him without producing an alternative. I don’t recall who said it, but only once have I gotten a response to that question, and the answer was Steve Kragthorpe. No, thanks.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:54 pm
HT, you are correct, and things would have been a lot different had Ross stayed. Another good Tech coach, though not many people recognize this now, was Fulcher. If the McAshan affair hadn’t torn him up so badly, I seriously believe he would have done great things at Tech and could probably still be coaching. But in both cases, it is what it is.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:55 pm
Who is Steve Kragthorpe???
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
3:55 pm
Take it easy on Really?, Supersize. I think she lashes out at others because of a bad home life or daddy issues. If someone could help her realize that she is not a worthless piece of trash and she does have something positive to contribute, I think her life could possibly turn around. A positive role model could help her make better life choices.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:57 pm
George, IMHO the only perceptible “flaw” in Johnson’s recruiting has been on defense, but with last year’s redshirts and this year’s recruits, we’re gonna see some big changes in the D, and soon. Offensively, he recruits for his system, just like every other coach in the country recruits for his system too.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:58 pm
HT, so you’re saying we should try to help Really? Hmmm, I think professional help might be more productive.
Really?
February 14th, 2012
3:59 pm
In breaking news cpj says ga text will offer 4 slices of pizza to go with the hot dogs and cokes this year.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
3:59 pm
@ Give Me a Break, Junior Dooley might want a shot at Tech, but something happened in K’ville in the past that soured the people up there about playing Tech again. The last I heard was that they refused to consider it.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
He’s the former HC at Louisville, Supersize. He inherited Bobby Petrino’s club and ran them into the ground.
I’m concerned about our defense, though. They showed flashes last year but have never put they need to put it together with consistency. I am on record as saying Johnson needs to reconsider his special teams approach, particularly now that there’s a vacancy on his staff.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
@ Really? are you one of those dwag fans who disguise themselves as empty seats? I sure have seen a lot of them on the televised UGA games. Is that a major in Athens now?
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
Troll hard, Really?.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:03 pm
George, I agree about the special teams and the need for a coach there, but Tech is not the only school in the country without a dedicated special teams coach. I don’t look for a change there. What I would LOVE to see happen is for CPJ to hire Friedgen as QB coach, but that won’t happen either.
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
4:07 pm
Fl Jacket, other than Clemson , who has he beaten with consistency ?and when was the last time the ACC had a team in the top 10? Techs played in one ACC championship game (you’re not wanting to count finishing in 2nd or tied for 1st in your division as a coastal championship are you? )Pj came into the league when it was probably at its lowest point and like it or not had a good nucleus of NFL type players left by Gailey . Super, Tech hasn’t had the lead against Georgia since 2008, and has trailed the majority of the games by 2 tds and 2009 and especially 2010 were not good Georgia teams. Tech deserved the win in 08 they fought hard , but UGa had 18 scholarship players out due to season ending injuries,plus he was playing with a team that matched up better against Georgia.(Richards, Walker, Morgan Johnson on the D line) Gaileys players. Give PJ credit he did a nice job with Gaileys players , he just hasn’t been able to replace them. I am much more confident of a Georgia win against Pj with his players than I ever was with Gailey and his.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:09 pm
Johnson did not come into the league at its weakest point. That would be 2006 when none other than Chan Gailey managed to lose to Wake Forest in a miserable day in Jacksonville.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:09 pm
Eh, I don’t really buy the no one else does it argument, Supersize. No one else runs our offense, but that doesn’t stop us from doing so.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:11 pm
@ George, I was in Jacksonville for that game, and that was probably the worst game I have ever witnessed a Tech team play, under ANY coach.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:12 pm
George, I didn’t say that I BUY that argument, but it IS a fact.
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
4:13 pm
George, How is the leg ? The ACC has been down now for several years, only ACC school that has managed to break into final top 10 has been VT.
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
4:13 pm
Supersize…Sounds to me like Really? is hungry for pizza and hot dogs. Maybe she has weight issues, too.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:15 pm
I was there, too, Supersize. The only thing longer than the game was the miserable drive home.
@Really
February 14th, 2012
4:15 pm
Will it be pepperoni pizza?
collegeballfan
February 14th, 2012
4:16 pm
“BYU is from a non-AQ Conference, how can they be considered a “high-level FBS opponent”?”
See UGA vs Boise.
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
4:17 pm
Super, Don’t you think that PJ misses on way too many targeted recruits to use the expression he’s “recruiting for his system”? That expression gives the impression he is signing his top targets.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:17 pm
I’m up and about, Ghost. They removed all the packing last week and I’ve been back at the office now for six days. Thanks for asking.
The ACC is down, but it isn’t as down as people like to think. To be reasonable, though, we need our bell cows – FSU, Miami, Clemson – to pull their weight.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
4:17 pm
Ghost…
Obviously knowing as much as you think you do about Tech…the CCG recruiting classes of 2006 and 2008 were terrible prior to CPJ arriving. So the fact that he won with CCG’s players is an indication of how well he can coach good players…and mediocre ones as well.
And besides, he wins more games with Gailey’s players (8.5 wins per year) that Gailey won with Gailey’s players (7 wins per year).
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
4:18 pm
collegeballfan…UGA is from an AQ conference. I don’t know why they were not considered a high level FBS opponent for Boise.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
4:18 pm
Ghost…
Which targeted recruits?
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:18 pm
I don’t think he’s missed on too many on offense, Ghost. But there’s no question we need playmakers on defense. I’ve grown weary of hearing about communication issues, etc.
If the players aren’t good enough, I’m OK with that. But he needs to tell us that.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:23 pm
As an aside, Ghost, UGA counts the years they tied for the division among their titles.
http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2011/11/22/georgia-heads-into-tech-staring-at-major-tailback-dilemma/?cp=2
Who
February 14th, 2012
4:24 pm
is going to be the NT next year? How deep is Tech at that position?
Stinger 2
February 14th, 2012
4:26 pm
GTBob and Really? need to move on. They are the most annoying people who post on the AJC blogs. The have nothing meaningful to say. They are pitiful.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
4:27 pm
Who…
1) TJ Barnes (Sr)…6′7″ 347 but slow off the snap
2) Shawn Green (r-So)…6′1″ 290
3) open but likely Pat Gamble (Fr) if he’s ready to play right away
Well,
February 14th, 2012
4:34 pm
I hope Barnes can step it up a notch next year. I’m not familiar with Green (I’ll have to check). I remember Gamble from Carrollton (I think he will be a pleasant surprise for Tech).
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
4:36 pm
Fl jacket, I am native atlantan, my mother and B Dodds daughter were best friends, I grew up around tech football and have always followed them. 1 Gailey was recruiting while on probation in 2006,You may not want to give Chan his due but he played in the ACC championship game in 2006 came off of probation and kept the momentum going with a very good 2007 class, the 2008 recruitng class was hampered by the Gailey uncertain future, lest you forget Sean Renfree was committed to tech before gaileys departure. I can’t list them all , but here are a few. C. Conley, JS Wesley, all of the highest rated rb s from the state this past 2012 recruiting class, Tuitt, Tomlinson, Nick Marshall , do you honestly think Pj not offering the top talent? I never said I thought he was stupid when it comes to recruiting .He’s offering most of the same players everyone else does he just doesn’t sign them.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
4:36 pm
Losing Denzel McCoy for medical reasons really hurt our depth in that position, and JC Lanier didn’t pan out on defense and got switched to offense. We really need this crop of D-Lineman (Kallon, Gamble, Chungong, Gotsis) to develop into good players.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:37 pm
I’m not sure which “targeted” players Johnson hasn’t got. He lost 2 commits this year and one probably, plus Junior G, who apparently didn’t qualify. Who were those “targets” that he lost?
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:39 pm
The 2007 VT game in Atlanta was what did it for me with Gailey. That was the second worst-coached game I have ever seen a Tech team play, and there was no excuse for that loss either.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:42 pm
That was the same game that did it for me, too, Supersize. Watching us get throttled – again – on a cold Thursday night was it. I did feel badly for him getting booed on the Jumbotron, though.
Until then, I always had hope he could do it because he’d shown flashes throughout his six seasons.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
4:43 pm
Ghost…
I’m not beneath giving Chan his due…if he had recruited the QB position stronger (the years prior to Nesbitt in 2007 and Renfree in 2008) and gave Reggie Ball some competition things might have turned out differently.
But knowing Tech as much as you seem to do, I don’t see how you can’t agree that CPJ’s style and the challenges of coaching at Tech (dictated by the President and AD) don’t align extremely well for fielding competitive football teams and graduating kids?
As much as I enjoyed CGO, he saddled us with lots of PR and academic issues that I hope we never have to deal with again…
I should mention
February 14th, 2012
4:51 pm
that Tech season tickets are reasonably priced and ALL Tech fans are encouraged to take advantage of the bargain and get out and support our team!
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
4:51 pm
Super , I will just use this as an example, do you think in 2011 that Greene was Pjs number 1 target for WR? Do you suppose JS Wesley or Chris Conley would have signed with Tech they would have his roster spot? Would he have signed James Wilder or Zach Laskey?
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:53 pm
FL Jacket, how have we not been competitive? Other than the LSU loss and one of the Miami losses, what games have we not at least been competitive in under Johnson? I’m not saying that just being competitive is all that matters—winning is what matters—-, but you said his style doesn’t align well for fielding competitive teams
crackbaby
February 14th, 2012
4:54 pm
Ken,
What if the ACC moved Wake to the Coastal Division. Another team would have to move back to the Atlantic – NC State? Duke? Maryland?
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:54 pm
How do we know the result would have been different if we had another offense or coach, though, Ghost?
I posed the question on Carvell’s blog earlier today, and to a man, each UGA fan said, when asked if players went to UGA because of Richt or because UGA recruits itself, they chose the latter. I bet if we switched head coaches, the recruiting results wouldn’t change.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:55 pm
Ghost, you used the word “think.” Honestly, I have no idea whom Johnson has or might have targeted over the past few years. Did Johnson make an offer to Greene? I don’t know if he did or not.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:55 pm
The UNC game his first year was an ass-kicking, Supersize, and I thought the UGA game last year was never really close in the second half.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
4:58 pm
Clemson in 2010 was also a beatdown.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
4:58 pm
George, you are undoubtedly right there. At least for now, UGA recruits almost solely on name. Tech once did the same. Tech still COULD be doing that had it not been for a string of bad coaches after Dodd retired. Bad coaches diminish the name value of any school, except for maybe Notre Dame.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
4:58 pm
“FL Jacket, how have we not been competitive? Other than the LSU loss and one of the Miami losses, what games have we not at least been competitive in under Johnson? I’m not saying that just being competitive is all that matters—winning is what matters—-, but you said his style doesn’t align well for fielding competitive teams”
Supersize…on the contrary, it aligns very well. Pardon my double-negatives.
dawgfan
February 14th, 2012
4:59 pm
1-3 vs. UGA. 1-3 vs. VT. 0-4 in bowl games (only one of which was against a ranked team). I’d go over your records against other teams but you don’t play anybody else worth a damn beyond those three games.
Yes Techies, Paul Johnson is clearly a genius that does “more with less.” You should go ahead and build the statue and name the stadium after him. I need a good laugh. Please keep him around forever.
Georgia Tech=JOKE.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
5:00 pm
I disagree completely, Supersize. Florida never had problems getting players when the Zooker was there. Bama was in the wilderness for most of the past 20 years but never had trouble getting players.
I think players will go schools because of the schools. Hell, if I was being recruited by UGA and they took me for a stroll down Lumpkin Ave during Rush, I’d have a hard time saying no.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:00 pm
George, I don’t remember the 2008 UNC game and guess I had forgotten about the 2010 Clemson game. You might also include the Iowa game, but we were still in it with 6 minutes left…..IF Nesbitt could have hit the side of a barn. You are right about the second half of the 2011 UGA game, but I still wouldn’t call it a beatdown; after all it very easily COULD have been worse, but wasn’t, regardless of the reason.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
5:00 pm
Troll hard, dawgfan.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:01 pm
George, Florida only had one bad coach. Tech has had several—–WAY TOO MANY. You’re right about Bama though; they survived that 20 year wilderness.
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
5:01 pm
Fl Jacket,
I think you hit the nail on the head . PJs style is more of a problem than getting qualified better football players. Although most don’t realize their opportunities are limited many of the 4 and 5 star players think they have a chance or dream of playing in the NFL , Pjs style isn’t attractive to them. and quite honestly I haven’t seen Pj staff being great at player development.Not trying to flame just my perspective.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
5:02 pm
The Iowa game was never out of hand. It was a touchdown game for most of the first half and then we closed to 17-14 before we threw that pick.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
5:02 pm
dwagfan conveniently ignores Clemson…as do all haters that point out how bad CPJ is by pointing out ALL of his losses even though he wins roughly 2 out of every 3.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:03 pm
George, remember too that Florida has probably never been able to recruit solely based on name. The Gators have had to rely on coaches more so than on team identity.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
5:03 pm
They say Florida football began in 1990 for a reason, Supersize. They could pick a crummy coach with the best of ‘em.
GssiT
February 14th, 2012
5:04 pm
CPJ & ASS AD Hogan aren’t buying seaon tickets like we have for the last ten years. Like most GT alum and supportive fans, every home game is an away game for us. Five hours to ATL, Hotel, Food,etc and then five hrs home the next day, and you never know game time. We are not going to continue season tix with the likes of W. Car, Elon, MTS and others. Bring on the big boys & our problem is solved. Go, Jackets!
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:05 pm
George, in the Iowa game, I think that first penalty call against Tech that negated Dwyer’s TD changed the entire game. We were still “in it,” but it was never quite the same after that.
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
5:05 pm
Super , D Greene is on your roster , but I can tell you his odds of being there would have been greatly reduced is C. Conley or JS Wesley had signed with Tech?
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:06 pm
GssiT, don’t you think that other schools and their fans have the same problems??? Why do their fans put up with it, but Tech fans won’t?
indianman
February 14th, 2012
5:07 pm
georgia tech are your scared to play byu
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
5:07 pm
Ghost…
That’s fair…I just hope we’ll get a glimpse in the next few years of where guys like Stephen Hill, Omoregie Uzzi, Jeremiah Attaochu, Rod Sweeting, Louis Young, and others can accomplish at the next level.
I would argue player development and evaluation is one of his strengths…
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:07 pm
Ghost, sorry, I thought you meant that A.J. Greene (or is it Green) had been a “target” that Johnson didn’t get.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:08 pm
FL Jacket, I couldn’t agree more.
The Truth
February 14th, 2012
5:08 pm
Ken – when is the last time you did an Open Records request of the GTAA? Just thought I would ask since the former asst coach, Spencer, knowingly violated NCAA rules while GT is on probation how that was reported and if GT has agreed to any “self administered” sanctions. You may want to look into it and ask, or else you could get caught with your skirt down and pom-poms sagging again.
Cheerleader or Journalist, which is it?
dawgfan
February 14th, 2012
5:09 pm
Stick that head in the sand hard, George Stein.
Tech fans are not interested in facts. Never have been. You’re interested in shoulda, woulda, coulda’s, excuses, moral victories and talking out of your butts about what Tech will do in the future. The way you clowns talk about Paul Johnson you would think you just hired the guy. “Wait until he gets the right players…” and “…the defense is really coming around.” Good grief. He’s been there for 4 seasons and what has he done? Nothing. You’ve won the biggest joke of a conference in all of the land and beat Georgia once. Congrats. Nobody cares.
You’ll continue to get your 8.5 wins per game under Coach Paul Johnson. I’ll give you that. I hope you’re happy with it because I’m happy with it too. All UGA fans are happy with it. Virginia Tech is happy with it. Your bowl opponents are happy with it. Kansas is happy with it. Air Force is happy with it. Utah is happy with it. That should concern you but it doesn’t. That’s just sad.
Georgia Tech=JOKE.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:10 pm
@ The Truth, get a life, bubba…..Ken and Schulz and Carvell have ALL reported thoroughly on how Tech is handling that situation.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:12 pm
@ dawgfan…..”nobody cares”??? Well, you must care, or you wouldn’t be on a Tech blog posting drivel like that. Get back to slopping those hogs, bubba
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
5:13 pm
George , I remember Bear Bryant talking about Florida being a sleeping Giant, Spurrier proved him to be correct.Florida for the most part has always had an abundance of talent. They were very talented last season but had an inordiante amount of injuries and lost several players during the coaching transition.Much like UGA last year player with 74 or so scholarship players. Weis didn’t have the players to run the type offense. defense was very good and will be extremely good again this year. I am not sold on WM as a head coach.
dawgfan
February 14th, 2012
5:15 pm
“dwagfan conveniently ignores Clemson…”
Everyone conveniently ignores Clemson. That’s what happens when you get lit up for 70 points in a BCS bowl. Clemson is a total joke.
Oh but wait I forgot. That whole thing about the ACC being weak is just a matter of “perception” right coach Johnson? Good grief what a clown.
Georgia Tech=JOKE.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
5:18 pm
dwagfan…UGA’s record from 2008-2011 with 4 top-10 recruiting classes?
34-19 (also 8.5 wins per year)
Being told that I don’t care enough by an ignorant sidewalk redneck UGA fan (with no academic tie to their institution) makes me laugh.
I mean, shoot. Next thing you know, dwagfan would commend us for 70 tons of trash on our campus during gamedays…and for reinstating Nick Marshall and Chris Sanders a year after they rob their teammates.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
5:21 pm
dawgfan, how does it feel to be irrelevant in the SEC. Do you really think anybody in Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa give a rip about what happens in Athens? Even lowly USC has your number now, and one a couple of recent wins over the Gators probably don’t have them too concerned either.
UGA=A LEGEND IN THEIR OWN MINDS
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
5:22 pm
Keep trolling, dawgfan.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
5:22 pm
dwagfan…UGA’s record from 2008-2011 with 4 top-10 recruiting classes?
34-19 (8.5 wins per year)
Being called out by an ignorant sidewalk fan (who probably has no academic ties to their institution) makes me laugh.
I mean, you would probably commend us for leaving 70 tons of trash on our campus during gamedays. You might even commend us for reinstating Nick Marshall and Chris Sanders after they robbed their teammates.
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
5:23 pm
Neither am I, Ghost. He was a nice DC, but I’m not sure he’s a HC.
And you’re right, UF always has had players.
I should mention
February 14th, 2012
5:34 pm
that dwagfan is sad
I should mention
February 14th, 2012
5:35 pm
that insulting the writer is sad
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
5:38 pm
Fl. Jacket, No One know why Sanders was dismissed from the team, but it had nothing to do with theft.You know Nick Marshall was very high on PJs wish list , I like most do not know the details of what happened or the involvement Marshall had, but everyone makes mistakes and some do earn a second chance.He will be playing major college football somewhere in 2013, Lsu didn;t hesitate to take Mettenberger and they were not his only suitors. If he’s rehabilitated I would rather see him at UGA than one of our rivals. What would you say if PJ signed him.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
5:49 pm
Ghost…stealing isn’t a mistake I would open myself up to a second time
HighTech
February 14th, 2012
6:20 pm
Stick that head in the sand hard, dawgfan.
UGA fans are not interested in facts. Never have been. You’re interested in shoulda, woulda, coulda’s, excuses, moral victories and talking out of your butts about what UGA will do in the future. The way you clowns talk about Mark Richt you would think you just hired the guy. “Wait until he gets the dream team…” and “…the defense is really coming around.” Good grief. He’s been there for 11 seasons and what has he done? Nothing. You’ve won the biggest joke of a division in all of the land and beat Florida once. Congrats. Nobody cares.
You’ll continue to get your 8.5 wins per game under Coach Mark Richt. I’ll give you that. I hope you’re happy with it because I’m happy with it too. All Tech fans are happy with it. Bama is happy with it. Your bowl opponents are happy with it. Colorado is happy with it. Central Florida is happy with it. Michigan State is happy with it. That should concern you but it doesn’t. That’s just sad.
Georgia =JOKE.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
6:28 pm
@ HT……. AWESOME !!!!
ToeMeetsLeather
February 14th, 2012
6:28 pm
Gosh, I check in on the blog to make a comment on the schedule and see where DawgFan is about to go into cardiac arrest over something. Man, for someone with no interest in our program he sure left us with a “novel”. Well anyway, if Drad checks in on these blogs put me in the group that wants to beef up our home schedule with the TN’s, Auburn’s(if they will play us again after that 0-2 attempt), etc. Rather lose to a good opponent than beat up on some overmatched team that gives you no idea where your program stands(especially at $50.00 a pop).
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
6:36 pm
HighTech, Georgia has the 2nd most wins in the SEC , tied with LSU most top 25 finishes (6 of those top 10), 2nd behind LSU in SEC titles since Richts been at UGA almost 10 wins per season . That biggest joke of a division was 3-1 vs ACC last season.The 2 BCS bowl wins matches the entire ACC BCS wins. How can Tech fans be happy with a 1-10 record vs Richt? Bama is 1-3 vs Richt. Colorado and UCF happened in his only bad season.The defense was ranked 5th in nation last year, and he just signed the #1 players from 4 different states in his last recruiting class.Michigan state finished in the top 10, because they beat Georgia in overtime, that happens to the best of us doesn’t it.
ToeMeetsLeather
February 14th, 2012
6:36 pm
oh, and DawgFan, most of CPJ’s first real recruiting class of 2009 will be redshirt juniors this next season
George Stein
February 14th, 2012
6:48 pm
I think he was just giving dawgfan a little grief, Ghost. No rational person denies that UGA has a good program.
GTBob
February 14th, 2012
7:03 pm
Everyone conveniently ignores Clemson. That’s what happens when you get lit up for 70 points in a BCS bowl. Clemson is a total joke.
Auburn sure thought they weren’t a joke. Wasn’t Auburn UGA’s big win this year?
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
7:07 pm
George, I know but Richt has done a very good job at Georgia, the overall body of work is impressive.
Hard not to respond.
GTBob
February 14th, 2012
7:19 pm
George, I know but Richt has done a very good job at Georgia, the overall body of work is impressive.
Richt got off to a good start. Since then he has been a pretty below average coach.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
7:39 pm
GTBob, I wouldn’t say Richt has been below average…..just average
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
7:50 pm
I would say in 2010 he was well below average, he did a good job with a very young team in 2011.He recruited very well the past 2 years to fill his needs. 2012 is a pivotal year for Richt it may be the most talent he had at Uga in quite a few years.
Supersize that order, mutt
February 14th, 2012
7:54 pm
@ Ghost, yes, the most talent he has had since 2008, and we saw what happened that year…..VERY AVERAGE
GTBob
February 14th, 2012
7:59 pm
Ok, I will give Richt average overall, but well below average the last 4 years.
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
8:03 pm
Supersize , 2008 Georgia had 18 season ending injuries to scholarship players and was especially hard hit on the lines of scrimmage , take 18 players off any roster many of them on the 2 deep , and still won 10 games and finished in top 10.If you consider finishing in the top 10 average then 110 other team were below average. I would say 2003 or 2004.2007 had better over all talent than 2008. Defensively in 2012 Georgias loaded , the offense has play makers and will also have more than 7 healthy O linemen.
230gr Full Metal Jacket
February 14th, 2012
8:26 pm
Yeah, but how has the Preacher Man’s record been against teams that FINISH the season ranked over the last 4 or 5 seasons??? WAY below average. He has an impressive overall “body of work” — until you analyze who his teams have played, then it’s really not very impressive at all.
Don’t get me wrong, I think CMR is a good coach. But to listen to most dawg fans you would think he can walk on water. And they LOVE to spout these wonderful sounding records, which are not really very impressive when you study the opponents. Not to say that Tech is better (which they are NOT in football), but I don’t see any reasonable Tech fans trying to blow sunshine up anybody’s rectums either!!! We KNOW our program is in need of some serious talent. But we ARE gaining ground on that, and I feel cautiously optimistic about the team Tech will put on the field in 2013. Barring some surprise catastrophic injuries or defections, I think we will match up quite nicely against 95% of the Div-! schools out there (There will always be a few Bama’s and LSU’s that are WAY ahead of everyone else in college football — at least as long as the NCAA continues to kiss the rears of the programs that generate the most money for them).
I should mention
February 14th, 2012
8:36 pm
CMR is 10-1 against Tech
I should mention
February 14th, 2012
8:38 pm
I wish Donnan still coached the dogs
Ghost
February 14th, 2012
10:57 pm
230gr, Look at who Georgias played? The only teams Richt has a losing record against are Florida 3-8 and LSU 3-4 , so other than playing and beating some of the best teams and coaches in the country during his tenure.14-1 vs the ACC 10 wins vs tech 2-0 vs Clemson 1 win each against FSU and VT. Granted the past 3 seasons have been somewhat disappointing still really only one bad season in 11 years. Believe what you want, with 57th ranked recruiting classes and below average coaching matching up with the ACC would be a more reasonable goal.
Ben
February 14th, 2012
10:59 pm
Didn’t say we played wake every season but every season there are at least two acc cupcakes. This year there were 3 in duke bc and md and we played two of them. Wake has been better since getting groh but it’s still a univ with just 4k undergrad so it’s rare that it’s a tough game.
230gr Full Metal Jacket
February 14th, 2012
11:01 pm
Not dissing CMR or his record, but 2-18 versus ranked opponents in the last 4 seasons??? NOT impressive at all!!!!
Ben
February 14th, 2012
11:23 pm
meant grobe. not groh.
FL Jacket
February 14th, 2012
11:51 pm
Ghost…
Using recruiting rankings that are arbitrary figments of imagination conjured up by non-football people who are unable to…
A) discern what separates the 30th best recruit from the 50th best in any one position
B) not let their empirical rankings be influenced by which schools offer a recruit
C) grasp the concept of “quantity vs quality” of the recruiting class and allow the number of signings to affect the rankings
So again…I’ll take low arbitrary recruiting rankings if they translate to more wins than someone else’s higher recruiting rankings. In CPJ’s tenure at GT so far, this has been the case. Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s not from mediocre coaching.
Paddy
February 15th, 2012
6:36 am
spider…..if you go back in history, you will see that BYU is considered a solid football team on anyones schedule. For you to consider them in the Middle Tenn or SE la class is shortsided.
Crankle
February 15th, 2012
8:01 am
exactly paddy. people forget they won a nat champ in 84…which is four years more recent than the mutts . lol
slaw dog
February 15th, 2012
8:14 am
GT will show more continuity on defense with a full blitz package Groh is entailing. Chili dog knows Al personally and Mustard dog said paul was in agreement with it.
I think
February 15th, 2012
8:42 am
This could be one of the largest gatherings of virgins at a football game in a long time.
William Casey
February 15th, 2012
9:09 am
I just don’t “get it.” How does belittling an opponent (GT or UGA) make one feel better about one’s favorite team? What psychological quirk motivates a person to attack another team or coach? Attacking another Conference makes even less sense. I just don’t “get it.”
whacked hyber
February 15th, 2012
9:27 am
Who cares about the schedule? We can’t win against GA or a bowl game anyway.
Without a QB switch this year the stadium will be even less full.
GTfan
February 15th, 2012
10:09 am
Hewitt was fired because he was a sorry coach….not a sorry man.
dawgfan
February 15th, 2012
10:12 am
“I think CMR is a good coach. But to listen to most dawg fans you would think he can walk on water.”
LOL. What cave have you been living in for the past 3 years Techie? The dude damn near almost lost his job after the 6-7 debacle of 2010. If the Vandy player had made it to the endzone with that blocked punt this past season we’d be sitting here debating the quality of UGA’s new head coach. You are in la la land pal.
Tech fans live in a fantasy world. I have never seen anything like it.
Ghost
February 15th, 2012
10:26 am
Fl Jacket , Recruiting rankings are more like a compass than a GPS,they are a good gauge on the direction of a program based on the competition they play. There are statistics available that show the success ratios of 4 and 5 star recruits in comparison to 2-3 star recruits. I don’t quite understand how a program that had 19 wins in 2 playing with a core team built from previous coaches recruits , has 14 wins over the next 2 years playing with more of PJ players and less of Chans players translates into being better.I am only stating the obvious Pj hasn’t done a very good job of maintaining the talent level.
Bobo is Not the Problem
February 15th, 2012
10:49 am
Funny you have to go to the BYU site to get a date for the GT game.
gtfanfrom1951
February 15th, 2012
10:49 am
I think that BYU and UGA should go the way of the dodo bird.
George Stein
February 15th, 2012
11:06 am
I would suggest you look in the mirror, dawgfan.
Roadrunner
February 15th, 2012
11:45 am
If CMR is average, what does that make CPJ and Tech , since they lose to UGA so much? Below average?
GTBob
February 15th, 2012
12:21 pm
If CMR is average, what does that make CPJ and Tech , since they lose to UGA so much? Below average?
It depends on whether you think CPJ and CMR have the same level of talent or not.
FL Jacket
February 15th, 2012
12:29 pm
Ghost…
2 seasons are a terrible sample size, especially considering the loss of Josh Nesbitt, Scott Blair’s missed XP in Athens, and other mitigating factors. Also consider the O-Lineman who left the program after 1-2 years (Joseph Gilbert, Clyde Yandell who both went to GSU) and it leaves you with a ridiculous amount of youth on the OL when it a perfect world you’d like these guys to RS and get into the weight program for a few years first.
But if you want to play this game of pretending that recruiting stars mean something, fine. Francis Kallon would be a 5-star recruit if he had played the game more than 1 year. Adam Gotsis would be a 3- or 4-star player if he played his HS football here. Why are Fredie Burden and Lynn Griffin unrated recruits on ESPN but ranked in the 50’s at their respective positions on Rivals and Scout? Beau Hankins was Alabama 6A defensive player of the year…Justin Thomas Alabama offensive player of the year. Anthony Autry was Gwinnett DB of the year…but not given stars until late.
Could it be that rankings are made up abritrarily of the kids that recruiters only know of and rank as Juniors…before many of them grow and develop?
BjohnDawg
February 15th, 2012
3:41 pm
Spider,
You can visit or attend a Mormon chruch without mormon membership.I did before I was a member and many of my friends have who are not members. You must however be a Mormon and in good standing to visit a Mormon Temple. And yes, there is a difference in the Mormon religion between a Mormon Chruch and a Mormon Temple.
aaron in arizona
February 15th, 2012
4:03 pm
I am a georgia bulldog fanatic. I don’t blog often, but i do enjoy reading the ajc sports to catch up on things, especially for uga, while i have lived out here in arizona. i don’t like reading a lot of the trash that other bloggers put on here, i see that as just bad manners and not necessary, but some of the light-hearted jokes and bragging i think is fine. just to let y’all know where i’m coming from.
SPIDER…………….i don’t recall seeing your name much on the blogs, but i don’t understand what you have against byu or the mormons. to answere your ? about not getting into a mormon church that is off of some highway in san diego: if that is a “temple” then only members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (mormons) who have been members for at least one year and found worthy, after interview w/church leaders, may enter to do special services/work therein. however, a “chapel” is a chruch building where anyone may enter, be they member or not. in chapels, that is where weekly sunday services are held. anyone may attend. also, during the week activities for youth/boy scouts/meetings/etc. are held at the chapels. just to let you know the difference. anyone and everyone is invited to go to church/chapels to worship and/or learn more about the chruch/gospel of Jesus Christ.
i am a member of the church/a mormon. i am a convert to the chruch, just so ya know. i am not a byu fan, but have many friends, especially out here/out west, that are. i am not sure, from what i know and have seen of some byu games i’ve watched w/friends, about how byu cheats. all teams/games get lucky breaks or bad calls at times but not sure of what you were blogging about some cheating w/sdsu.
i personally would love to have byu on the uga schedule. it would be a good game, byu is not a bad football team to have on the schedule. hopefully uga would win so i could have some very good bragging rights out here, just like w/ arizona state from 08 and 09. uga did beat byu in athens back in 82. if i remember correctly,Steve Young and Herschel both were in that game.
Take care y’all, and GOOOO DAWGS!!!
The Dude
February 15th, 2012
8:33 pm
Playing good teams helps build a program. The bowl streak was fun when we still had one of the bowl winning percentages in the country. Now the streak just looks dumb. I’d rather miss a bowl here and there and win the ones we play in, than go every year and lose. I say remove all FCS teams from the schedule. Play a team in middle America (Big 10, Big 12) and play a west coast team (PAC 12, WAC). If you can’t win 6 games in a 9 game ACC schedule (especially in the 5 at home years), do you really deserve a bowl?
The Dude
February 15th, 2012
8:33 pm
*best bowl winning percentages…
The Dude
February 15th, 2012
8:36 pm
Ken,
Obviously conference expansion changes everything, schedule-wise, but can you dig up any dirt/info on all the SEC schools we were supposed to play home-and-homes with? We were supposed to play Ole Miss, but they backed out and we picked up Kansas. We were supposed to play Bama, but they backed out and we hooked up with BYU. South Carolina, Tennessee, and Auburn were all in the equation leading up to 2021 if I remember correctly. Why is there no talk about that?