Impermissible texts snag Georgia Tech recruiting
Georgia Tech handcuffed itself in its recruiting efforts with impermissible text messages to a recruit and his father. The NCAA banned the Tech coaching staff from initiating telephone or written communication with the prospect for four weeks, starting in late December, according to an e-mail from Tech compliance director Jerome Rodgers that was obtained through the Georgia Open Record Act.
NCAA rules forbid all forms of electronically transmitted correspondence to recruits or their parents or guardians except for e-mail and faxes.
The NCAA penalized Tech for two of three texts, which were sent in November. The third was a text from Tech coach Paul Johnson, who thought he was replying to a text from a team member, not a recruit. In the e-mail, Rodgers called the violations “inadvertent.”
The e-mail noted that the school sought NCAA permission to divide the four-week penalty into two two-week periods in order to contact the prospect, identified as “Will,” during the week of his official visit to Tech. Sandy Creek High offensive lineman Will Adams visited Tech Jan. 13-15, the same weekend noted in the e-mail, and was the only prospect by that name that weekend. Reached Tuesday, Adams said he was not speaking with news media until his signing-day announcement Wednesday morning.
While Adams was committed to Tech at the time of the visit, he took an official visit to Auburn last weekend and is now considered undecided between Tech and Auburn. He is expected to announce his choice Wednesday morning.
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GT Man
January 31st, 2012
9:47 pm
At least PJ didnt have to text the recruits from MTSU, The Citadel, Troy or Elon, they were locks anyway.
GT Man
January 31st, 2012
9:48 pm
Slawdawg, its gettin embarrasing, PJ cant even cheat right.
DaddyoJ
January 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
TD1, our season went south when PJ grabbed Kidney’s facemask in the MD game for the same thing. Its wrong to blow your cool for an in adverdant mistake. Did you see any of the Oline get pulled in the NFL playoffs for false start? Go figure, didn’t know who you were texting but know its not allowed?
Delbert D.
January 31st, 2012
10:05 pm
For the record, Brown’s endowment is $2.2 billion. They also get less of the recruiting pie when it is distributed by the league. The way the Ivy League slots (by an Academic Index) the recruiting of athletes is a very interesting practice. The NYTimes had an article about it back in December.
Student Athlete
January 31st, 2012
10:26 pm
@TDOne. Johnson charged 10 yards on to the field meeting Phil Smith and said ” are you really that @U!$%^& STUPID” the video speaks for its self and the audio is crystal clear.
Al
January 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
Davlin will be on fox 5 tomorrow morning to announce his choice. Seems if he was picking an out of state school, he wouldn’t be going on there and would use espn.
Old Blind Dawg.
January 31st, 2012
11:17 pm
CMR self reported his inadvertent text – the NCAA said OK.
CPJ was also forgiven for an inadvertent text. Same crime same penalty.
The other two text messages from GT to Will Adams were NOT self reported and WERE NOT inadvertent – HUGE difference folks.
The Factor
January 31st, 2012
11:26 pm
Seems like a non- story
Old Blind Dawg.
January 31st, 2012
11:32 pm
From Rivals – 2011 players offered by BOTH UGA and GT – Position – Star Rating – Grade – State – the far right shows who they signed with.
Something is not right on the flats.
Sterling Bailey DE 4 5.8 GA Georgia
Devin Bowman ATH 3 5.7 GA Georgia
Chris Conley WR 3 5.7 GA Georgia
Watts Dantzler OL 3 5.7 GA Georgia
Zach DeBell OL 3 5.7 FL Georgia
Ray Drew DE 5 6.1 GA Georgia
Amarlo Herrera LB 4 5.8 GA Georgia
Nick Marshall ATH 4 5.8 GA Georgia
Xzavier Ward OT 3 5.7 GA Georgia
Justin Scott-Wesley WR 4 5.8 GA Georgia
Quan Bray ATH 4 5.8 GA Auburn
Chevelle Buie RB 4 5.8 FL East Carolina
Anthony Chickillo DE 4 5.9 FL Miami(FL)
Xzavier Dickson DE 4 5.9 GA Alabama
Erique Florence DB 4 5.9 AL Auburn
Taylor Gadbois OL 3 5.6 GA Miami(FL)
Doran Grant DB 4 6.0 OH Ohio St
Carlos Gray DT 3 5.5 NC NC State
Demetrius Hart RB 5 6.1 FL Alabama
Jeoffrey Pagan DE 4 6.0 NC Alabama
Brian Randolph DB 3 5.7 GA Tennessee
Terrance Smith LB 3 5.7 GA Florida St
Tony Steward LB 5 6.1 FL Clemson
Ja’Juan Story WR 4 5.8 FL Florida
Stephon Tuitt DE 5 6.1 GA Notre Dame
James Vaughters LB 4 5.9 GA Stanford
Jabriel Washington ATH 3 5.7 TN Alabama
James Wilder Jr. ATH 5 6.1 FL Florida St
Karlos Williams DB 5 6.1 FL Florida St
sports
January 31st, 2012
11:45 pm
these cheaters just don’t get the message
RedandBlackDAWG
January 31st, 2012
11:58 pm
Bigtimetechfan,
UGA wasn’t on probation already when they self reported their inadvertent text. It is a stupid rule and one that probably 90% of the college coaches violate and don’t self report.
Teddy Roosevelt
January 31st, 2012
11:58 pm
GTLOVER, you do realize that “loose” and “lose” are two entirely different words right?
Yellow Maggot Killer
February 1st, 2012
12:09 am
Where’s @gt69 ?? Why is it when Techmites violate NCAA ( ACC, Almost College Conference title stripped) — It was only a couple of hundreds $$ worth of stuff !!
NO you BLATANTLY and FLAGRANTLY defied the NCAA by playing ineligible players you were TOLD NOT TO PLAY. It ALSO went unreported by the AJC
( Atlanta Jacket Chronicle ) for HOW MANY MONTHS ? ? ?
Tech still trying to plea down those sanctions. Just like Tech tried to get no contact
w/ “Will” split into 2 periods.
Tech will always suffer in recruiting w/TOUGH TALKING CPJ —” I’ll talk real slow so you can understand me ” / “Just punch ‘em in the nose”. Add to that cutting loose your 1st recruit for TEST SCORES, KIDS TOLD IF THEY TAKE ANOTHER
VISIT they’ll not have a place at Tech.
Tech can get anyone into school they want ! ! !
Jimy (yes 1 “m” ) Lincoln Tech RB from Pittsburgh (good player) , @ 1980s, had a PARTY to celebrate making a 750 on the SAT on his FOURTH TRY.. .only one example
Let’s not even get into BASKETBALL !!.
Now you throw Junior under the bus this year w/ test score allegations and wonder
why guys are flipping on you ! ! !
TECH —- DISCIPLES OF DECEIT ! ! ! Your prgram is in the death spiral. . .
pcb mike
February 1st, 2012
12:16 am
Boy, the Dumb Dawgs are out in mass quantities. Where will they be when the next crime wave hits in Athens? Stay tuned, it will only be days away at most.
Mountain Dawg
February 1st, 2012
12:21 am
What’s surprising is that Gobble-Neck Johnson knows how to text.
wreckmaniac
February 1st, 2012
12:52 am
The NCAA can go to _____. No school can go from being the example of how to abide by the rules to being the designated outlaw in a 3 year period .
BjohnDawg
February 1st, 2012
1:04 am
Good Lord…this is such a non issue. NCAA should be trying to catch some real cheating and stop with the inadvertent text crap.
Brad N Tucker
February 1st, 2012
1:33 am
@ pcb mike —- Crime wave in Athens ??? Tech rife w/ criminal activity — Why do you think Tech students are asking to carry firearms on campus ?? Let’s NOT forget your jihadist that was roaming loose on the Flats ! ! !
Talk to Ruben ” 62 lbs.” Houston and ask why his original attorney left the case !
@ wreckmaniac —- Tech is an example , A BAD EXAMPLE .Continue to defy
NCAA and see how that goes. Can’t hide behind ” different interprettion of rules ” . Like going into court and telling the judge he doesn’t know the law ! ! !
You pompous and arrogant clowns ! ! !
.
OBFUSCATION and DECEIT are all Tech has.
NCAA has a new Director of Enforcement — a former cop . You’re
already on the list. ! ! !
TECH — THE INNER CITY OULAWS !
You’re demise is coming. . .
Harry from da Burn
February 1st, 2012
1:39 am
The real cheater is the NCAA. Texting? Selling Your own jersey? Taking a 200k paycheck? We would all make these choices if we were actually athlete teenagers.
Douglas
February 1st, 2012
2:21 am
Yellow Maggot Killer, Tech wasn’t blatantly and flagrantly defying the NCAA they were telling them they had no case, and that they were not going to assume he was guilty based on what little evidence they had. In fact in the end of it all they couldn’t prove that there was anything illegal done, but decided Tech had covered it up and punished the team anyways.
And no Junior could not have made it in without the proper scores, that’s why he was let go (believe me if they could have gotten him in they would have gotten him in as he was too good of a recruit to cut loose for any other reason).
Brad N Tucker, Ruben Houston was kicked off the team, and was only re-instated once a judge ordered Tech to do so, as he had been cleared of the crimes for which he was dismissed from the team. Additionally the criminal activity you are referring to is not coming from the players, which is in stark contrast to the team in Athens which is a yearly favorite to win the Fulmer Cup (for criminal activity perpetuated by members of a team).
Birmingham Jacket
February 1st, 2012
4:19 am
Bring back O’Leary or get Tater Tot.
But get RID of the hillbilly with the silly offense, who can’t recruit.
Birmingham Jacket
February 1st, 2012
4:47 am
I sold my box seats.
Georgia Tech football, very much like Ron Paul and Fair Tax. Much talked about here and there.
But the chances of it ever doing anything of significance?
0.00001%
ToeMeetsLeather
February 1st, 2012
6:01 am
I am constantly amazed at how many Mutt trolls seem to have no life. Don’t you dudes have anything better to do with your time. I have never been on a Dawg blog and certainly don’t have the time to troll the nit-pick news of the day in Athens. Pretty sad little life going for you there folks.
HighTech
February 1st, 2012
6:26 am
All of this concern from Dawg fans is making me think Tech’s football program is not irrelevant to them, no matter what they say. Go Jackets!
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So What
February 1st, 2012
6:54 am
Who really cares about crap like this!
Real GT Alum
February 1st, 2012
6:55 am
The Hill, Drad, CPJ and the Board of Regents all should be fired. Georgia Tech Football means a lot to the State of Georgia. Economically it adds to Atlanta and the State. GT football Brings in new Students(if we are successful), IF GT recruits the State of Georgia WELL then those Blue Chippers do not go from the State to Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, And Tennessee to beat UGA in the SEC. The BOR has long tried to limit Tech curriculum to protect UGA football, I guess it’s protecting Dogs Football has backfired.
slydog
February 1st, 2012
7:01 am
You know why all these silly little rules are in place? Coaches like Nick Saban, with him being the main catalyst. Alabama fans, cool down, and investigate the facts. For example, there was a time when coaches could visit rising seniors at their HS over the summer. The NCAA changed it because Saban abused the priviledge while at MSU and LSU. Look it up. So when they restricted the number of on campus, summer time visits, Nick went around the rule and started using video-teleconferencing and services like Skype. True story. Then the NCAA changed the rule to restrictions and in some cases completely ban “contact” with a rising senior. That’s also one reason why Asst. Coaches can visit recruits more than HC. Why? Nick Saban. They make a rule, he bends it, they make another, he bends that one. And so on and so.
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Coach Johnson
February 1st, 2012
7:24 am
Come on guys, is this really what “snags” our recruiting? Could it be our elitist alumni attitude? Or thinking we are Ivy League material or that you will not get killed on our campus daily? Or my high school stylized offense?
This is a non-story; just like the rest of our recruiting.
Coach has a Small Johnson
February 1st, 2012
7:30 am
and a High School Offense….
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Dwag fan
February 1st, 2012
7:50 am
If this is a woman investigator…we’d beat her.
Cheating Hall of Fame:
February 1st, 2012
7:54 am
Enter your comments here
careless
February 1st, 2012
8:08 am
CHEATERS….!!!!!!!!!
TybeeDawg
February 1st, 2012
8:20 am
So tech is cheating AGAIN? Not surprising news first thing this morning.
Big Old Dawg
February 1st, 2012
8:22 am
Funny how old Techies scream it’s a non-issue here on their page, but stop the presses if UGA coach does the same thing and see the vile filth that supposedly educated people spew against UGA….nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Kinda funny how Johnson isn’t anymore adapt at using a smartphone than Richt.
Al
February 1st, 2012
8:35 am
Ken where did your gt signing page go?
Van Gorder
February 1st, 2012
8:48 am
Impermissible Text is saying anything on Chip Towers’ blog about Memphis being in Conference USA. That get’s you banned automatically.
Van Gorder
February 1st, 2012
8:49 am
*gets. Sorry grammar police.
Frontman
February 1st, 2012
8:52 am
Hey, ‘Necks…
Did no one teach you how to spell “dog”?
Plus a whole bunch of other words as well.
Oh, wait, you’re UGA fans…
Jorge O'leary
February 1st, 2012
9:07 am
I’d hate to be a rabid dawg fan and think that all of our 4 and 5 star dribble bib wearing atheletes will ever amount to a sniff at a national championship. You know what the average dawg signee gets on their SAT? Rib sauce!
Ken Numero Dos
February 1st, 2012
10:04 am
Amazing that anyone (other than CPJ) still buys into the CPJ is an offensive genius theory.
“I don’t need a OC, ’cause nobody is smarter than I am”, “We don’t need a special teams coach”, “It’s not MY fault when the players don’t execute”, ad nauseum.
And he has had more success with Chan Gailey’s recruits than with his own, even though Gailey recruited for a totally different offensive scheme.
Oh, and the infractions and violations are not his fault either. At least he cannot butt-dial his phone – his head gets in the way!
Hoopster
February 1st, 2012
10:16 am
Love the timing on this, just before Signing Day. Richt does the same thing last year but it gets sat on til after Signing Day. Between that and the bogus ESPN report, you guys at the AJC are amazing.
RamblinJacket
February 1st, 2012
10:47 am
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RamblinJacket
February 1st, 2012
10:50 am
Everyone go to stingtalk its going nuts over there!ASdda
Leonard
February 1st, 2012
11:51 am
I think Tech may as well give up football, if you call what they play “football.”:
BuckheadBill
February 1st, 2012
12:05 pm
Toe Meets Leather: Never been on a GA. Blog he says on a GA Blog.
It has happened again
February 1st, 2012
12:38 pm
GT has another horrifc, failed Frosh class. Their top kid has played for one year? We shall see how that works out.
CPJ is on the 2012 ESPN HOT SEAT.
JD
February 1st, 2012
12:45 pm
Comment on your other article Ken. The two guys who signed with Tech but never played. What other schools would have honored their scholarships? Probably UGA but doubt either Alabama school would have.