Tech in talks with ACC for Labor Day game
Georgia Tech is in discussions with the ACC to play in its nationally televised Labor Day night game, though chances do not appear good.
“We’re moderately interested in it, not crazy about it, but it’s got some interest to us,” associate athletic director Wayne Hogan said Tuesday. “It’s just a question of what makes sense.”
The league has interest in moving Tech’s game against Virginia Tech to that Sept. 3 date, Hogan said. The winner of that game has represented the Coastal Division in the ACC title game in each of the past seven seasons. The game would give the Yellow Jackets a national platform on a day and time slot in which it would have little, if any, competition.
However, Tech’s preference would be to not play Virginia Tech or any other Coastal Division team in that opening-week spot. Tech’s philosophy in recent years has been to play an FCS team in its opener as opposed to a more meaningful league game. For a Labor Day game to happen, the school would have to agree to it. Tech is scheduled to play Middle Tennessee State Sept. 8 and likely would want to move that game to avoid playing on a short week.
Miami and Maryland, who played on Labor Day in 2011, both had a bye week following their game. That game was the first of the ACC’s Labor Day games, part of the league’s 12-year contract with ESPN.
If a matchup with Virginia Tech or another Coastal team is in fact a deal breaker, that would leave Clemson, Maryland and Boston College, Tech’s Atlantic Division opponents in 2012. Only a matchup with Clemson would seem to have broad appeal – Maryland and Boston College were a combined 6-18 in 2011 – but the Tigers are scheduled to play Auburn in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game earlier that weekend at the Georgia Dome.
The ACC schedule is due to be released in early February.
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reebok
January 18th, 2012
7:54 am
High-risk, high-reward…win the game and we are a leg up in the division…lose it and we will be chasing the schedule the rest of the year…it would be exciting, though
old gold and white
January 18th, 2012
7:54 am
first
old gold and white
January 18th, 2012
7:55 am
nevermind…. damn
reebok
January 18th, 2012
7:56 am
I remember several years in a row whenwe opened with high-profile games…Notre Dame a couple of times, Auburn, Clemson one year. It was nice to be nationally televised in week 1.
hal
January 18th, 2012
8:00 am
I hope TECH does not play in a game like this until we improve our defense.
mwh6767
January 18th, 2012
8:13 am
I don’t like the idea of starting the season with an ACC opponent. However, I did enjoy the games with Auburn, ND and such. Wish Tech would get back to that. ND, Auburn, Texas AM, maybe a big 10 school. I not saying play Alabama or LSU every year but playing a top 25 team out of conference would be nice exposure and give you a chance a nice win and still not hurt you in conference with a loss.
William Satterwhite
January 18th, 2012
8:15 am
“That game was the first of the ACC’s Labor Day games, part of the league’s 12-year contract with ESPN.”
The ACC has been playing Labor Day games for years, for a while it was the spot for the FSU-Miami game and I believe FSU and clemson played their “Bowden Bowl” on Labor Day a few times as well.
Al
January 18th, 2012
8:25 am
VT usually starts out slow so maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing.
William fsu clemson was never played on labor day.
Spartans, prepare for glory!
January 18th, 2012
8:26 am
Do it!
RedandBlackDAWG
January 18th, 2012
8:27 am
Would this game bring in extra revenue, that the normal time slot with VA. Tech. wouldn’t? Would there be any benefit for Techs. standing in playing this game versus an FCS opponent.? Would it help tech. be better prepared for the rest of the ACC schedule?
From a purely outsiders prospective, I would think it would be a good challenge and let tech. know right off the bat, what they need to improve or how good they can be in the ACC. Va. Tech. will most likely be in the top 15 at worse, so I think it might be a good idea.
Buzzed
January 18th, 2012
8:36 am
I thought Labor Day was always on a Monday. When did they move it to Thursday for ACC football? Trying to start the season with any kind of win is a good way to break the consistent 2-game carryover losing streak from each previous season.
Bones
January 18th, 2012
8:37 am
Might as well play it early. Going to lose to them anyway up there on Thursday night.
Bones
January 18th, 2012
8:39 am
Buzzed must be drunk. No where in the article does it say the game would be on Thursday.
Birmingham Jacket
January 18th, 2012
8:40 am
I want out the ACC all together. The conference is a joke; and face it— no one cares about stupid ass basketball.
We need an athletic director to get us to a real football conference. SEC will never happen, but BIG 10 could.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
8:52 am
It would be OK if Tech doesn’t have a game the following Sat. We did the 3 games in 12 days 2 years ago and it didn’t do Tech any favors.
Sat, Sept 5 Jacksonville State W37-17
Thu, Sept 10 Clemson W30-27
Thu, Sept 17 #20 Miami (FL) L33-17
Rduck
January 18th, 2012
8:54 am
Honestly, I say bring it on. If you want to play at the top notch in college football, you have to be able to take the risk and schedule games like this from time to time. I agree that it would be better to start up another series of openers against OOC high profile colleges, but anything would be better than a snoozer at noon against a FCS opponent. Plus it would give the guys a really good reason to bust it during spring and fall camps… Just my 2 cents
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
8:56 am
Birmingham……….If we can’t get the recruits now do you think we will get much better ones just because we get back in the SEC? Sorry I love my football but the Academic part of the SEC is the REAL JOKE on their conference. I enjoy being in a conference that for the most part knows players are STUDENT athletes not ATHLETE students.
What does...
January 18th, 2012
9:16 am
…UOAD mean?
zgoldatl
January 18th, 2012
9:17 am
Any news on a future Chik fil a kickoff game? I’ve heard rumors of 2013, but nothing concrete…
That’s the game tech needs to go for. I wish UGA had accepted the invite to play Tech in the kickoff game. That would be reminiscent of Tech vs GA in the omni. I’d love to see the Dome packed with UGA and Tech fans.
Ken Sugiura
January 18th, 2012
9:17 am
redandblackdawg – no financial incentive, but it’d be about the best exposure tech could ask for.
it might also be worth noting that one thing that gary stokan has often said of the kickoff game is that coaches have told him that playing a high-profile game like that raises the intensity of offseason workouts and preseason practices because teams know they won’t have a cupcake to start off the season.
like reebok said, it’s a risk-reward situation.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
9:18 am
It shows how much I Love the Dawgs. It is an acronym for that love.
CC
January 18th, 2012
9:20 am
If Tech is a big-time, top-notch program (and they’re in the Top 25 in early poll predictions) they should be able to handle an ACC game early on.
Consider what VT might be feeling. They may be more scared to take on Tech early in the season than we are them. So let the team man-up and come out believing they can win the tough ones.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
9:22 am
TECH v UGa in the kickoff game will never happen unless UGa agrees to use it as their Home game so we can move the UGa AWAY game to the ODD years. Doing that would Balance the Home Tech schedule better to sell season tickets.
ormewood
January 18th, 2012
9:32 am
Someone mentioned above that Va Tech tends to struggle early.. Thomas is back and he’s a stud, but they lose David Wilson, their back-up RB, and their career leader in receptions. Plus, one of their DB’s is going pro.
Conversely, the Jackets tend to play their best early in the season. I’d do it.
RambleOn84
January 18th, 2012
9:33 am
I think it would be advantageous for us to play in this game early in the season. Though I understand why we would like to tune up against a lesser opponent, I think it would be better to have our FCS opponent later in the season. Think if it as an extra bye week.
Additionally, playing a big opponent the first game would mean we spend extra time to prepare for them. I realize the opposite is also true, but it seems that our ACC opponents spend a significant portion of their summers practicing for us anyway.
George Stein
January 18th, 2012
9:33 am
Eh, I like the Thursday nighter against a girl scout troop or the Saturday nighter at the Dome. Don’t burn the bye week after the first game.
CDS
January 18th, 2012
9:35 am
Amazing that if you point out on ajc recruiting blog by carvell, that he is a uga alum, he blocks you from posting. Just amazing that posting facts gets you blocked. That ajc sure hires some quality people. Nothing like censorship from posting true statements.
Ken Sugiura
January 18th, 2012
9:39 am
zgold – i haven’t heard anything lately. there’s an opening in 2014, but i think the arrival of pitt and syracuse kind of clouds things up. they would join by 2014 and if the acc goes to a nine-game schedule, that would leave three non-conference games. i’m not sure how interested tech would be in having two of their three non-conference games against BCS conference opponents.
George Stein
January 18th, 2012
9:43 am
Just because someone graduated from UGA doesn’t mean he/she cannot be objective in covering Tech, CDS.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
9:44 am
KEN that is why all conferences need to be forced to play 9 conference games, no FCS games, and at least 1 big OOC game. I think that would allow the UGa v GT, Texas v TA&M, Pitt v WVU games to continue.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
9:45 am
And a Conference Championship game.
Jim 70
January 18th, 2012
9:47 am
Best time for an upset is early, early in the season, so maybe vt on labor day would be good for tech. Better than Blacksburg in November.
If we do play this game, maybe tevin would be a better starting qb than anybody else due to experience and hopefully no turnovers. On the other hand, it would give vt a lot of practice time to get ready for tech, which maybe has led to our poor performances in bowl games. We don’t seem to perform well when other teams have had a bye week or long week (Thursday night previous game) prior to playing us.
The Dude
January 18th, 2012
9:52 am
I’d rather play tough teams in BCS conferences and lose than to beat FCS opponents. I don’t care if we come up short from time to time on getting to bowl games. We don’t win them anyways.
Jim N Buckhead
January 18th, 2012
10:10 am
GT should do it you can only play so many Thursday night games….Even if they were ACC champs the likelihood of playing for a BCS title is slim to none…so play the game have fun be the only game on TV that night….used to be Miami and FSU played that night.
RedandBlackDAWG
January 18th, 2012
10:13 am
I agree Ken, and national exposure sometimes make recruiting easier. It is also a great way to showcase your team, and if all turns out well, get the pool voters attention. Not many negatives in appearing on the big stage when you get a chance.
Technically Correct
January 18th, 2012
10:16 am
With a struggling defense, QB issues, an offensive scheme that has yet to include an effective passing game and no proven WRs, if Tech takes that game to start the season, either (1) they have the biggest pair of you-know-whats in the BCS, (2) they think they know something that the rest of the world does not or (3) the decisions have already been made that TW will be the starting QB and the offensive scheme will change little. That leaves the offense “as is” and CPJ will concentrate on the defense to improve.
Freddie Blassie
January 18th, 2012
10:17 am
I am so tired of the feminization of the game to suit TV and political correctness that I want to puke. It is not a good thing for Tech to play VPI that early in the season, and I wouldn’t want to give the TV folks anything. Let someone else play the game.
Man, I long for the days when receivers didn’t go over the middle for fear of the LBs who’d knock them on their hineys legally and running backs who were trying to get on the ground to avoid hats to the kidneys. Quarterbacks should have to wear skirts if they are such pansies that they need to be protected from being hit. If you don’t want them hit, make them sit with the coach on the damned pines.
If the ball carrier is still bouncing on the ground, stick him! Bring back the days when Chuck Bednarik hit Frank Gifford so hard that he did not play for the rest of the season. Make the offensive linemen go back to blocking without using their hands. All these running backs getting all these yards should have an * by their names. QBs and receivers too.
Thanks, Dr. I feel much better now.
OkieDawg
January 18th, 2012
10:23 am
C’mon Tech, man up and play VT in the opener. That way, you can lose early and lose often.
George Stein
January 18th, 2012
10:31 am
Thanks for the contribution, OkieDawg. You really add a lot of value.
Norht Ave Killer Beez
January 18th, 2012
10:32 am
Good Idea! Make it happen Dan. Nothing else to be excited for so far.
swampjacket
January 18th, 2012
10:38 am
It seems teams with a lot of time to prepare have the best success against our “O”…I wouldn’t want to give Bud Foster all summer to get ready….I like an early big game, but I’d make it Non-Conference>
gtfanfrom1951
January 18th, 2012
10:40 am
There is no advantage in playing UGA if we go to 9 conference games. Bye, Bye, doggie. Then UGA would have one less win a year.
CDS
January 18th, 2012
10:44 am
Stein
Where did I mention objectiveness? You must have reading comprehension problems. I pointed out that he is a uga alum and there is a HUGE conflict of interest and it IS seen in his pro uga articles. I guess it’s no different than the ajc being biased for obama and dems.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
10:48 am
gtfanfrom1951 go hide in your basement, take your toys and leave the sandbox, or beg to be a FCS team. I will never run and hide from the Dwags. 9 conference games still leaves 3 OOC games what is the advantage of playing any of those games then?
Sting Man
January 18th, 2012
10:52 am
We need to play this game…PERIOD!
THWG!
George Stein
January 18th, 2012
10:56 am
So let me get this straight, CDS. You say that you didn’t mention his “obectiveness” (I assume you mean “objectivity”) and then proceed to say that there is a conflict of interest? I am so confused.
I like Carvell. I think he works hard and does a good job. In terms of his pro-UGA articles, you’re free to have your own opinion but we’ll have to agree to disagree.
blazer
January 18th, 2012
10:58 am
Good idea Freddie B. wish they would take off those stupid gloves and not let linemen hold on
every play!
Garyl
January 18th, 2012
11:11 am
Might as well get rocked early, cant beat VPI anyway with PJ and Grohs 3-4 defense.
CDS
January 18th, 2012
11:14 am
No I meant what I wrote fool. Your vocab needs some improvement.
Like I said, I didn’t mention anything but that he is a uga alum and I get blocked. Yes that’s right. So I guess you support censorship and blocking factual statements. So much for a free site.
My guess is the vast majority of posters on here would agree that uga gets way more favorable recruiting coverage than does gt and it’s not even close. Again, all I pointed out was I am not surprised after learning he is a uga alum. Considering how much time you spend on here, I wouldn’t be surprised that you are him under another alias.
Rick James
January 18th, 2012
11:16 am
Tech wouldnt be trying to dodge Virginia Tech to play Armpit State would they? Nah..
George Stein
January 18th, 2012
11:21 am
I was unaware the AJC was operated by the government, CDS.
Wait, it isn’t? Oh, then it INS’T CENSORSHIP.
CDS
January 18th, 2012
11:31 am
Exactly Tom. I also laugh that his linkedin page now no longer shows where he graduated from college. Hmmm
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
11:33 am
TOM said the TRUTH in that post. HAHAHAH
CDS
January 18th, 2012
11:34 am
Hey georgie nice reading comprehension.
George Stein = Michael Carvell posting under false alias.
I guess it’s a slow day eh? Go find a uga pump story loser.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
11:35 am
George Stein you might not agree with CDS but TOM did spell it out pretty well what CDS means.
I'm a CBG fan
January 18th, 2012
11:35 am
The game is in Blacksburg – forget that!
Jeff
January 18th, 2012
11:37 am
Look, I think it is a good idea. If they win then there is an instant spotlight on the team and a high ranking. If they lose, they have the rest of the season to climb back. An early loss will hurt the rankings less in the beginning of the season vs late. UGA tried it with a then 5th ranked Boise, they lost but bounced back. The difference is GT HAS to play VT anyway, get it out of the way. My only concern is the time to prepare for GT issue and they would have an entire summer to do it. Still take the risk, gamblers never win always playing it safe.
My new Bar B Q grill
January 18th, 2012
11:49 am
By Labor Day my 2011 Christmas present from the kids will be just about broken in nicely. Why on earth would I leave that for some ACC game between Va Tech and GT?
The stadium will reflect the fact that maybe everybody received grills like mine, because it will be only 60% full.
Pass on this game and pass the Q sauce.
Just an idea .......
January 18th, 2012
11:52 am
Maybe Tech rents BDS@HGF and allows LSU or Alabama or even lowly UGA or SC or Florida to play VaTech or to play NC or play FSU or Miami ………………….. THEN and only then, would that game be of interest outside of Fulton County. Only then would that stadium be near capacity seating.
DawginSewer
January 18th, 2012
11:53 am
Coach has us playinsgs Valdusta that weekend.
Darn, I woulds likes to got their.
CDS
January 18th, 2012
11:54 am
VT in opening games since 07
07 Beat E carolina 17-7
08 Lost E Carolina 27-22
09 Alabama lost 34-24
10 Lost to boise 33-30 and James madison the next week
11 Beat App state 66-13
I would go for it. Probably got a better shot at beating them early than on a Nov Thursday
1 4 GT
January 18th, 2012
11:59 am
Yeah Freddie. I had kinda forgotten about having to keep my hands up in the middle of my chest. If I extended my arms/hands=a holding call, every time. They sure do coddle the WE’s, RB’s & QB’s today, huh?
Rick James
January 18th, 2012
12:00 pm
@Just an idea …….
I like that but Virginia Tech playing any of the mentioned SEC teams would have to be moved to the Georgia Dome and would sell out.
Kyle
January 18th, 2012
12:02 pm
Doesnt VT usually start off very slow, even lost to teams like James Madison in the first few weeks of the season. Might be best to get them early when we would have a better shot at taking them down. CPJ hasn’t done so well against them to this point…
northern neighbor
January 18th, 2012
12:11 pm
I like playing VT early. It’s better to find out early in the season if you are any good rather than go 6-0, build false hope, and lose 5 of the last 7 games.
Tech Fan Since 1950
January 18th, 2012
12:16 pm
Can we find a way to finally tackle that big and tall VT quarterback? Maybe tackling around the toenails? I wish the game was in Atlanta, but Tech has done well in recent history at the start of the season with big games on the road. There was no better experience than seeing the Jackets beat Notre Dame at the start of the season in 2007. No risk, no gain. Tech needs to take some risks. I say, let’s do it!
Ronald 1981-1988
January 18th, 2012
12:25 pm
“It’s just a question of what makes sense.” Well duh! We use to do this every year but start with cream puffs under Johnson. It’s time to man up and play big time on the big stage. Make it happen Hogan!
SKEPTICAL OBSERVER
January 18th, 2012
12:34 pm
Of course, many teams don’t have a problem with the Tech Offense – given extra time to prepare…
UOAD = Ugly Old-Ass Dog
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
12:39 pm
SKEPTICAL OBSERVER………….well you got the Dwag part correct.
Rick James shouldn’t you be on the recruiting blog abusing and taking abuse from BAMA?
M. B.
January 18th, 2012
12:48 pm
Played N.C. State first in ‘90, and Penn State first in ‘91. Those years turned out pretty good. 11-0-1 and 8-5-0.
Born2Buzz
January 18th, 2012
12:48 pm
Ken, was there any mention of where the game would be played? Would it still be in Bleaksburg or would they move it to DC? Either way, we should not shy away from this. I agree with what Stokan said about making the preseason practices that much more intense. We need to step up and play big boy football and that means taking on challenges like this.
And all you naysayers, next year is going to be a good year. Say hello to the Vad Lee era! And our D will be markedly better. You heard it here first.
GT21
January 18th, 2012
1:03 pm
Lets do the damn thing!
ramblingbuzz
January 18th, 2012
1:22 pm
I like it. Can’t do much worse than we’ve done against VT the past 4 years. Bring it on!!
Al Bundy
January 18th, 2012
1:24 pm
I don’t think it matters when or where we play them, the outcome will be the same. I hate it for our guys but CPJ will be OUT COACHED and we lose. I can almost hear him now… We didn’t excute and they made some big plays and we didn’t.
Rick James
January 18th, 2012
1:34 pm
@5150 UOAD
Alabama fans abusing UGA doesnt bother me.They’re the BCS champs and better than Georgia.What’s the argument? Yet I’m sure that if this blog had been written about Georgia trying to delay a game with Alabama you would be abusing us,right? If Tech wants to play big boy football either do it or join Conference USA.
GT Dude
January 18th, 2012
1:45 pm
I like the idea, puts a buzz in the air all summer long…
Go for it Dan Rad!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
1:55 pm
Some of you jerks seem to think this would be an extra game for both schools. The two Tech’s will play in Blacksburg at some point next year, whether it is on Labor Day or later in the season. Tech is not avoiding anything by not playing on Labor Day if that is the decision. I think there are pluses and minuses to both possible times. Since it will probably end up being an ESPN Thursday night game anyway, either time will be a national telecast. The problem, as I see it, is whether we can move the game already scheduled for the following Saturday so we don’t get stuck with a 4-day rest between games. If that can be worked out, then there should be no reason not to go for it, assuming VT also wants it.
JM
January 18th, 2012
2:11 pm
It might be easier to play with a short week if the Labor Day game was in Atlanta. But traveling back from Blacksburg late Monday would probably hurt Tuesday’s practice as well.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
2:16 pm
@JM, True
realfan
January 18th, 2012
2:51 pm
Is Tech allowed to play game that is not on a Thursday night?
Patrick
January 18th, 2012
2:54 pm
Blog won’t allow a video link from their own website of the robbery attempt in athens by no doubt two uga felon fans? Nice
Stinger 2
January 18th, 2012
2:57 pm
Rick James, OakieDawg and , headley lamar are in a class by themselves. One difference is that OakieDawg`s handle sounds like it could be feminine. My point is they have propensity to never contribute anything of value.
bulldog steve
January 18th, 2012
3:05 pm
Tech will never play a tough game to start their season. Their offense only works when a team does not have much time to prepare. If a team had part of spring and beginning of fall practice to face that offense, Tech would get beat. Just like bowl games when teams have time to prepare.
Rick James
January 18th, 2012
3:07 pm
@Stinger 2
Of course what I say is of no value to you because I disagree with your opinions.My belief is that Georgia football is head and shoulders above Tech football and you dont like hearing it.I dont recall you contributing anything of value on UGA blogs.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
3:09 pm
bulldog steve and when has UGa made it a habit of playing a tough team to open the season?
OkieDawg
January 18th, 2012
3:11 pm
Stinger, thanks for that post. I found it to be extremely valuable. Thanks for your contribution.
MDubTheWiz
January 18th, 2012
3:16 pm
GA Tech really doesn’t want to get embarrassed on national TV. Hopefully, that game against Va Tech won’t be nationally televised.
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
3:23 pm
MDubTheWiz…..I think we should make UGa play in a game on Labor Day. They were Great getting Embarrassed on national TV to start and finish last year. They have that trick down pat starting with 2 Ls and finishing with 2 Ls on national TV.
ChopChamps95
January 18th, 2012
3:34 pm
Hopefully, that game against Va Tech won’t be nationally televised.
————————————-
Always has been in the past and unless both teams take nose dives for years it always will be. Although the outcome sometimes aren’t always close, on paper and based tv audience appeal its one of the best ACC games year in and year out.
Brave Hokie
January 18th, 2012
3:37 pm
All for it… other than it will suck not exactly knowing what the game repercussions are so early in the season…
That said, even IF we win, we have a tough ACC road to go: @ scUM, @ Klempsun, @ UNC, F$U in Bburg
See y’all in the ‘burg.
Rick James
January 18th, 2012
3:37 pm
@OkieDawg
Nice!!
Teel Time: Virginia Tech more enthusiastic about possible Labor Day football … at sugarbowl.hoops227.us
January 18th, 2012
3:38 pm
[...] about it, but it’s got some interest to us,” associate athletic director Wayne Hogan told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Ken Sugiura. “It’s just a question of what makes [...]
Tom
January 18th, 2012
3:44 pm
Tech wouldnt be trying to dodge Virginia Tech to play Armpit State would they?
Why would they want to play them in the first AND last games of the regular season?
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
3:45 pm
GT will balk at playing a tough game right out of the chute. They need to build up those wins and amass huge RUNNING statistics early against other H.S. level teams if they hope to have any relevance in October and November.
It is obvious GT front loads their schedule with cupcakes to avoid early losses and the inevitable side into oblivion.
Stinger 2
January 18th, 2012
3:54 pm
Rick James: I have no problem with the opinion you just stated to the effect that UGA football is far better than GT. In head to head competition, the 10 of last 11 UGA wins does give creditability to your opinion.
My statement was in reference to your and other UGA fans
making statements that are trashing GT. To me these post are meaningless and are of no value except to get laughs
from your comrades. Carry on and have fun.I realize GT fans do the same on UGA blogs and I say they are also of no value to the subject at hand.
Teel Time: Virginia Tech more enthusiastic about possible Labor Day football opener than Georgia Tech at atlanta.hoops227.net
January 18th, 2012
4:10 pm
[...] about it, but it’s got some interest to us,” associate athletic director Wayne Hogan told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Ken Sugiura. “It’s just a question of what makes [...]
5150 UOAD
January 18th, 2012
4:16 pm
I get it………..
January 18th, 2012
3:45 pm
GT will balk at playing a tough game right out of the chute. They need to build up those wins and amass huge RUNNING statistics early against other H.S. level teams
Now insert ??? and it is the same.
I get it………..UGa will balk at playing a tough game right out of the chute. They need to build up those wins and amass huge statistics early against other H.S. level teams to build up Murray’s Heisman campaign before the wheels fall off against good teams.
What would the Dwags be saying if they had their Original 2012 opening opponent?
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
4:43 pm
UGA balks at playing tough games at any time during the season, except on the years when they HAVE to play Bama or LSU. Conveniently for them, they dodged that bullet again next year.
OkieDawg
January 18th, 2012
4:50 pm
Super, This is a GT blog. If all you want to do is post comments about UGA, then go to the UGA blog. Stay on topic…Let’s talk the irrelavance of Tech.
Ramblin Man
January 18th, 2012
4:54 pm
Could be a good thing for GT as VT has often struggled in the begining of the season. Could also gets the players and coaches more amped for the season as earlier mentioned. I would also think GT would have an advantage in that no game film would be available for VT with Lee, Summers, Greene, Waller, and Bostic that would be helpful. Of course that would also mean freshman taking on a VT team that does usually have a good D. This I would think would boast ticket sales as not many cared to see the season opener last year.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
4:54 pm
Okie, sweetie, I was responding to the crap posted by “I get it….”, obviously one of your sisters. If you don’t like what I post then YOU go to the UGA blogs where you belong to begin with, and take “I get it…” with you
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
4:56 pm
Ramblin Man, unfortunately the ticket sales argument is no good, because the game will be AT VT, no matter when it is played
LG
January 18th, 2012
5:09 pm
As a Tech and ACC fan it does not matter. ACC is just a lousy football conference top to bottom!
Ramblin Man
January 18th, 2012
8:16 pm
Super I realized that after posting.
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
January 18th, 2012
8:22 pm
I like the idea of this game overall. I mean we can’t really use the young team excuse every year. The only thing I don’t like is that it would probably tag Tevin as the starter where a couple of lesser teams would give Vad a chance to get his feet wet.
dagnabit
January 18th, 2012
8:22 pm
I’m all for playing VT as a first game this year. Bobby Dodd tried to get Georgia to play Tech at the first and last game every year. Dodd said this would get these two schools huge attention.
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
January 18th, 2012
8:39 pm
Then again, if Tevin stunk it up, it could signal the official start of the Vad era. If Tevin plays well enough to beat the Hokies on the road (which I doubt would be the case), that would be good too establishing us as the frontrunner early. Worst case would be Tevin plays good but we still lose. Then we got us a qb controversy.
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:08 pm
You guys evidently missed UGA’s first game last year. You also seem to dismiss the grueling SEC schedule. You also seem to have missed the fact that CMR has beaten Bama more than Bama has beaten him.
I guess a convenient memory comes with that highly acclaimed GT degree…………..Man you guys are truly pathetic.
Check out the strength of schedule for each team here (pay attention to the won loss record too)
http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2011-01-11
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:14 pm
It doesn’t matter WHEN Tek plays VT – they will lose.
I wish Tek would stop dodging FSU & Miami. Oh wait……I get it……. you……… will come back with lame drivel about UGA avoiding Bama & LSU – you tools – we both know the schedule is put together by the LEAGUE. No one is dodging anyone.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:17 pm
Yeah, real grueling schedule—-Ole Miss, Miss State, Vandy, Kentucky. Wow, those are SOOOO tought and grueling. How do you sleep at night. You lose to USC and LSU, but manage to beat those powerhouses plus a very weak Auburn and Florida, but somehow some stupid computer somewhere says your SOS is high. You are a damn fool.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:17 pm
Tech plays Miami EVERY YEAR !!!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:19 pm
Funny how “the league” manages to give USC at least one of the big three (LSU, Bama, and Ark) every year, but UGAG keeps getting those byes against them
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:20 pm
The season we just completed – UGA 16th toughest schedule – Tek 52nd. Yeah let’s talk tough scheduling. But remember UGA get penalized because it pays Tek.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:21 pm
Tech was the best team the mutts beat this year. And as far as those SOS rankings, they don’t mean squat.
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:22 pm
Hey Super don’t forget we also beat Tek every year………………….:-)
Funny how Tek keeps dodging FSU…………..good grief Super get a clue – Tek is a second tier program in a second tier conference – THE FACTS are out there if you look.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:23 pm
Quit looking at some damn computer ranking and look at the teams UGAG played—-Ole Miss, Vandy, Ky, Miss State, Myrtle Beach U, a weak Auburn team, and a weak Florida team, and in fact, UGAG had the weakest schedule in the entire SEC.
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:24 pm
LMAO – Super you need to change your handle – “Super Delusional”
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:24 pm
Actually, Tech played FSU in 2008 and 2009 and won both times. How about those FACTS
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:25 pm
No, you should change your title to “I Ain’t Got it…….”
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:26 pm
UGAG won the SEC least, but USC was the best team in that division. They actually played somebody during the season, and they won big in their bowl game. True Tech didn’t fare so well this year, but we did better than anybody predicted.
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:28 pm
Please tell me how UGA had the weakest schedule. We played many of the same teams BAMA and LSU played – Ole Miss, Miss St., Tenn., Fla. Granted the east was weaker than normal this year but even a tool from Tek knows it is cyclical. Even the weak ACC is cyclical…….except for Tek – they are terrible every year……………………
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:28 pm
Tech and Georgia both choked big time in their bowl games, but I bet I had a helluva lot more fun in El Paso, in spite of the game, than you did in your den watching the mutts blow it in Tampa.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:31 pm
I KNOW the schedules are cyclical, but you can’t brag about a tough a schedule UGAG had this year, when in fact they had a pansy schedule, and they have a pansy one again next year too. UGAG was, in fact, just a run of the mill team this year, but since they lucked into an easy schedule, the record ends up making them look better than they really were. Boise, USC, LSU, and Mich State all proved how AVERAGE the mutts were. And even lowly Vandy almost beat you and probably should have. Be proud of your team; there is nothing wrong with that. But don’t act like they were great, because in reality, they weren’t S*IT
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:31 pm
Once again Super – follow the link for SOS. UGA had a tougher schedule than SC. If I use Tek logic we beat SC because we had more whatever’s or we fumbled or the ref’s stole the game or what…..pick an excuse.
Yup we won the east – and tell me again what Tek won?
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:33 pm
Bama and LSU played each other. Of course, they are in the same division and play each other every year. But the mutts got a chance against LSU in the championship game, and they showed they weren’t even in the same league.
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:33 pm
Yup you are right UGA was not up to par this past year………..but……………..I get it……………..we had no trouble pounding Tek yet again…………..LMAO. Poor pitiful Tekies.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:35 pm
You just don’t get it, the computer rankings don’t mean squat. NOBODY believes them regarding ANY team. A computer cannot look at a team on the field and determine whether they are a quality opponent or not. A computer only “knows” what it is told, and therefore it is a totally meaningless system of evaluation.
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:35 pm
Let me use Tek logic………we won the first half against LSU and would have won the game but we fumbled and threw a pick and…….I could use a list of Tek excuses here if you have one.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:37 pm
UGAG beat Tech because they had the better team on the field, but it was NOT a pounding. And remember the better team doesn’t always win. UGA had the better team in 2008, but Tech won. Tech had the better team in 2009, but UGA won. They were about even in 2010, and UGA lucked out. This year, there was no luck involved, but it was not an overwhelming victory for the mutts. And, like I said earlier, Tech was the best team you beat this year.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:38 pm
Hate to tell you, bubba, but, although you yourself may not use that logic, plenty of UGA fans on these blogs have used that logic about the LSU game. I guess for them, it was some kind of moral victory…..”Hey, we won the first half.” DUHHHH
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:44 pm
If Tek was at or near the top of SOS you turkey’s would be singing from the roof tops. The SOS is all we have and it is accepted nation wide – except of course by the delusional Tekies that are in perpetual denial.
I would have thought a Tekie would have stopped using that old garbage in garbage out drivel a few decades ago. Check with NASA – they know computers – tell them computers only “know” and can’t process information. Did you really graduate from Tek? You still have your pocket protector and slide rule?
I get it...........
January 18th, 2012
9:46 pm
Super please “Get it” Tekies ALWAYS point out the yardage they accumulate – especially when they lose which is frequently.
Later dude………sleep well.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:49 pm
NASA feeds in FACTS. The BCS feeds in OPINIONS. They rank the SOS based on the OPINIONS entered into it by people who probably never watched a game of football in their lives. Sure Tech fans brag about yardage and dwell a little too much on the “what if’s,” but so does EVERY college football fan in the country, INCLUDING mutt fans.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:50 pm
So yes, for the computer generated SOS, it IS garbage in garbage out. Everybody knows it; you’re just too biased (or maybe stupid) to admit it.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:53 pm
By the way, I will say it here for you to think about, even though I know you will disagree. You have a TERRIBLE OC and a joke of a DC. Your OC has already lost many games for you. Your DC is going to lose even more. You THINK he is the messiah of the UGA defense, but he’s really nothing more than an arrogant thug, and it’s going to end up costing you, regardless of how good your players may be.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 18th, 2012
9:54 pm
And that’s my final post of the night. Sorry, but I have better things to do. Have a good night, and keep all those fantasies alive; that’s probably all you have going for you.
Messin with da Sasquatch
January 18th, 2012
9:55 pm
Love these speculative columns that make da dogs green wit envy.
ACC Football Fan
January 19th, 2012
12:31 am
The ACC needs good football rivalries, and the Virginia Tech/Georgia Tech game has become one of the Conference’s best. Promote the game as “The Battle of the Techs” and play it on Labor Day every year. A winner for both schools and the ACC!
dry dirt road
January 19th, 2012
9:17 am
Ga Tech has an identity crisis and is unable to field a team representative of the early 70’s when no “Buzz” was created yet. Tech has no shotgun, a weak 3 man defensive line, hideous unis, and that describes the identity crisis. During the ‘71-’72 seasons we had a more attractive yellow jacket mascot that was from the 60’s, we had a 4 man d line and Coach Carson, Glanville, Maxie Baughn and Dick Bestwick as coaches. It was just a strong team, plus we had the unis of old gold jerseys and white helmets. In other words, our platform we offered was strong. We were 13th in the nation one year, and beat Georgia one year on national tv at BD Stadium. We were an independent, and played the Div 1 teams all over the country, just like a pro team would. Tech’s identity began to erode with “Buzz”, and now has a head coach who does not believe in the shotgun all that much, but gets poven wrong year after year. If VT has Thomas back we’ll be unable to tackle him again so we’ll lose. They’ll have him running the same plays they ran for 2011. Therefore we better turn down the Labor Day offer- b/c of them, and b/c of the 2012 “yellow jackets”. I think Oregon has the real yellow jacket wings on their unis now, and Ga Tech has big nose “Buzz” with the tiny wings. Our yellow jacket from ‘69 to ‘73 had huge, high wings. Maybe I should become an Oregon fan, even though I’m a Ga Tech grad of ‘73.
Bazooka Joe
January 19th, 2012
9:43 am
5150 – you are right about UGA/Tech at the dome and that is why it will never happen. Georgia will not give up a home game (and much less money by having it at the dome instead of Athens) to do it. Sooo, the only way it would happen is to have Tech give up a home game for it, which I dont believe will happen either based on things I have read.
Heck lets bring back the JV games that used to be played on Thanksgiving day and put that in the dome !!
Crazy Robert
January 19th, 2012
9:54 am
Is anyone familiar with a kid named Henrique Ribeiro? My sister-in-law teaches him and my neice is one of his friends. I heard this past weekend he likes TECH, and from what they say, he can kick!
Sure would like to see him join th Yellow Jackets!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
10:00 am
dry dirt road, I have said it before, and I will say it again. You’re a damn fool. Get over all that worthless crap and worry about the quality of players and coaches. The uniforms (which I believe you railed about under another name in September) and the logo have nothing at all to do with how the team plays. And Buzz is FAR MORE MARKETABLE and RECOGNIZABLE than that scrawny, ugly yellow Jacket from the 50s and 60s. Get a life, man
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
10:05 am
@Crazy Robert, Dodd used to get lots of players from Baylor and McCallie. If this kid is interested in Tech, I hope somebody informs the Tech athletic department. We NEED a kicker.
I get it...................
January 19th, 2012
10:12 am
and you don’t Super. Let’s start with the basics (try to follow along). The BCS and SOS are NOT the same. SOS has NOTHING to do with opinions – it is in fact based on something you Tekies hold so dear – MATH.
The BCS did in fact utilize SOS in the past – they no longer use it – but SOS used nothing from the BCS. SOS is much like the RPI used in creating the NCAA Basketball brackets – still with me old timer? SOS is derived by a fairly simple MATH EQUATION utilizing opponents records as well as opponents of opponents records.
I hope I haven’t confused that mush between your ears. You might consider taking some vitamin supplements – specifically vitamin B1, B3, B6, B12, C and E commonly referred to as the brain food. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
10:16 am
If the BCS no longer uses SOS, it’s because they too realize it is MEANINGLESS. You can harp on it as long as you want, but it is still a meaningless piece of garbage, used only by those seeking to justify their WEAK schedules. The RPI in basketball is a proven system of evaluation. NOBODY takes football SOS seriously.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
10:17 am
Don’t get me wrong; I am not trying to say Tech’s schedule was any tougher than UGAG’s, but the fact remains that UGAG had one of the WEAKEST schedules in the SEC. And no SOS BS will alter that fact. Deal with it.
I get it...................
January 19th, 2012
10:29 am
LOL Super – you really don’t get it and I feel for you. Your complete denial when coupled with your delusions would be comical if it were not so sad.
In your mind the RPI is fine yet the SOS is meaningless – amazing.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
10:36 am
Sorry, little girl, but YOU are the one who is delusional. And, btw, it’s pretty sad when you come on here first thing in the morning continuing to obsess over this topic. After I logged out last night, I didn’t think about it again until you brought it up this morning. Are you that insecure that you just keep harping over and over and over again about the same meaningless crap? You need a life, little girl. I am done with you. NEXT !!!
I get it...................
January 19th, 2012
12:38 pm
Typical Tekie – when your argument falls apart you resort to the cute little name calling “little girl”. you must be kidding. Every visit to the Tek blog reveals more into the level of immaturity shared by the vast majority of Tek fans. I come here for amusement – I go to the other sports blogs to read about high level sports. Tek fans all react in the same fashion – when the facts crush their delusional points of view they start slinging what they perceive as insults – tooooo funny.
For what it’s worth I don’t consider 10:00 AM anywhere close to first thing in the morning. Perhaps you old timers consider that early – not me.
How’s that star studded recruiting class holding up Super? Prepare yourself for another year of total disappointment. Tek will run (pun intended) out of the gate piling up impressive stats against weak teams and then send their fans into a tailspin by getting crushed when the schedule gets marginally more difficult.
5150 UOAD
January 19th, 2012
1:13 pm
I get it………………. No I get IT and you don’t have a clue still.
UGa ran! Ran as fast as they could to get an easier schedule. With some SEC presidents help the Dwags got 2 easy schedules in a row. Too Bad the Dwags will not make anything happen from 2 years of EZ schedules.
2011…………Oregon? no the Dwags got out of that game & needed a filler so got Boise St but LOST hahah
2012…………Oregon? no the Dwags got out of the H-n-H but picked up MIZZOU lol what LUCK that took BAMA off the Dwags schedule.
I get it...................
January 19th, 2012
2:55 pm
UTOAD doesn’t get it either. Do you really believe UGA can direct the SEC to make a schedule that is more favorable for them? If so why did they ask to play Florida every year without the advantage of a bye (Florida always had a bye) and why on earth would they ask to play SC early when the obvious advantage would be to play them late when injuries have depleted their thin depth.
You Tekies are so envious you are willing to throw anything on the wall – hoping to lessen the dominance UGA holds over Tek.
Tek needs to add some courses in logic – you guys need some help with your argument premise.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
3:41 pm
UGAG has INPUT into the SEC scheduling, just like every team in every conference has INPUT into their conference scheduling. The league offices make the final decisions. However, UGAG has EVERYTHING to do with their OOC scheduling, and UGAG almost never plays any decent OOC teams other than Tech. Like UOAD said, you dropped Oregon. You only added Boise State because of the TV money and exposure; you originally had some OOC patsy scheduled at that time.
HighTech
January 19th, 2012
4:21 pm
I remember years ago when Auburn fired Terry Bowden, Auburn supposedly dropped FSU from their schedule the next year. The UGA bookstore in Athens had some hilarious t-shirts about Auburn being too scared to play daddy. Did Auburn drop FSU from their schedule or was it a conference deal?
Go Jackets!
January 19th, 2012
7:56 pm
Armpit U? Is that near Athens, Georgia? Sorry but Rick opened up with it early.
Go Jackets!
January 19th, 2012
8:04 pm
@ I get it……….
You do not get it and it’s doubtful you’ve ever had it.
Storyline topic: I say go for it as long as we don’t have to practice and play again 4 or 5 days later.
I get it...................
January 19th, 2012
10:22 pm
Sorry Go Jackets I do get it – the storyline = GT vs VT to start the season – it won’t happen – Tek does not want to start the season with a loss.
Super you might want to check UGA’s OOC schedule before you make such a bold statement. One other point you mistakenly said – “UGAG almost never plays any decent OOC teams other than Tech” – Tek isn’t a decent or quality opponent – hasn’t been for decades.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
10:51 pm
I get it……., so, based on your logic, when Tech beat UGA in 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2008, you lost to an inferior opponent. Awww, that means you can’t even play with inferior opponents. And where was I wrong about UGA’s OOC schedule? Other than one or two years with Ok State and Az State, and maybe one other, what QUALITY OOC opponents has UGA played? And you can’t count Boise State because TV scheduled that game; UGA didn’t.
I get it...................
January 19th, 2012
11:06 pm
Super stop digging – your hole is deep enough. WTF are you talking about not counting Boise? UGA agreed to play them and in fact did play them. What kind of twisted logic are you using – Tek logic.
98, 99, 00 & 08 even blind hogs find acorns
and it is difficult for a team to stay motivated after decades of dominance.
As an old timer I assume you attended Tek in what 1960? So in that span of time you have seen what – 15 Tek victories.
Go Jackets!
January 19th, 2012
11:28 pm
So it’s now officially the UGA “acorns”? Ohio State has the nut mascot lock up. Besides, you have to tell the Green Bay Packers you won’t be paying royalties on their LOGO. Can’t get a player to create a logo for your team (that would be a GT player) just rip off Green Bay (UGA athletic association).
Go Acorns! Instead of white and black bones you guys can have good or bad nuts. Seems appropriate.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 19th, 2012
11:34 pm
I get it…….. the logic is because originally you were scheduled to play another Coastal Carolina (I forget who…..northern Idaho or something), and dropped them because TV offered you the big bucks. That’s why I said you can’t count them, because you never would have played them had TV not come calling. And you lost BIG to them too. And what a silly, childish excuse for losing those 4 games to Tech. Yes, you “own” us right now, just like Tech “owns” Clemson, but all good things come to an end. I am sure that at some point Clemson will run off a string of wins against Tech, and I am equally sure Tech will run off a string of wins against UGA. S*it happens.
I get it...................
January 20th, 2012
12:09 am
actually Super I drop in here just to stir the pot (low hanging fruit) – much like I do with my family which has 5 Tek graduates 1 UGA graduate (not me) and one nephew-in- law (if that is a true term
) that played football at Tek (he fluked out and is as dumb as a box of rocks). We have some lively banter every year but recently it has become less fun.
Had to laugh at your good things come to an end comment – TEk has been waiting for good things to come to an end for over 50 years with very little promise on the horizon
I’d guess we are close to the same age and often wonder if the worm will turn in our lifetime.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
1:38 am
I really thought the worm had turned in 2008, and I think it yet will. But hey, look at Clemson. At least Tech once was ahead in the series with UGA. I don’t think Clemson has ever come close to Tech in our series with them. I graduated from Tech in ‘66 and got my masters in ‘67. I have a nephew who graduated from Tech and a nephew-in-law (yep, that’s a good term) who made it till his senior year and transferred back to Augusta State (he didn’t flunk out of Tech, but he might as well have). My brother-in-law, who died 3 years ago, graduated from UGA but was a life-long Tech fan. So ALL of my family are Tech fans and always have been. You’ve probably gone to bed now, but I guess you will see this message in the morning. Obviously I am a nightowl. LOL
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
1:41 am
Really, Tech has only been waiting for 40 years. Until the streak of loser coaches started after Dodd retired, we were still “in it”. It really wasn’t until the mid 70s that things really got out of hand. We could have survived the Carson era, and even Fulcher, but from then on until Bobby Ross, it was just one loser coach after another. If O’Leary had stayed, things would have been more even over the past 10 years, and I still think Johnson can do it too. But we shall see.
I get it...................
January 20th, 2012
8:16 am
In my best Robin Williams voice – Gooooooood Mooooorning Tekies.
Super I understand your points on coaching which begs the question – why can’t Tek keep the promising coaches? Is it money or the difficulty of recruiting – I don’t get it – but I don’t get why we are stuck with Bobo. Speaking of Bobo – he is your best coach and player rolled into one.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
10:34 am
Good morning, I get it…….. The filters have blocked my first two attempts to respond, so I will try again. Let’s see if at least this much goes through.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
10:41 am
DAMMIT, that much made it through, but my attempt to say more did not. I stay up way too late at night, and even at 10:35, I have only been up for about 45 minutes. I’m not sure how coherent I am yet, but I AM getting PO’d at the stupid filter. Hopefully I can get across an intelligent response to your 8:16 post without the filters blocking it. First of all, thanks for bringing our conversation to a more level-headed tone. I’m always happy to talk about Tech, but when it devolves into name-calling and finger-pointing and other accusatory tactics, then I get ticked and lose my cool.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
10:47 am
OK, so far so good with the filters. Hopefully I can continue. In Tech’s long string of coaches since Dodd retired, personally I only thought two were worth a damn…..Ross and O’Leary, and even O’Leary ticked me off at times. Carson was a BIG mistake, but strangely enough, it might have been a mistake to fire him too, since he seemed to be learning and improving. Fulcher is a total enigma. He COULD have been, and I think SHOULD have been, the perfect man for the job. He is originally from Augusta, so I am very familiar with his history. He played and coached under Dodd and had a stellar record as Tech freshman coach. He got screwed in the press during the Eddie McAshan affair, and apparently some alums jumped his case for some unknown reason, and he perceived pressure that should not have been there after only 2 years. And he was having marital problems, which I am sure did not help him. I’ll continue in a separate post.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
10:50 am
Pepper could have done it, but he was such a goofball and had such a big ego, that he got worse every year after the first couple. His Wishbone offense was a thing of beauty, and we were loaded at running back. Then he got a superb passer in Mike Kelley, and coupled with Eddie Lee, the offense was almost unstoppable. But he almost seemed to neglect defense completely, and that was his ruin. I hated Curry from the start and still do. I was glad when he left for Bama—-what a STUPID thing to do!!!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
10:58 am
Ross was the man, but the allure of the pros was too great. I imagine he would have made that jump no matter what school he coached for. Bill Lewis was the worst coach in history; enough said. O’Leary rebuilt the program, and even though he had faults, he knew how to hire coaches, how to recruit, and how to trust his assistants to do the right thing, thus making him look like a better coach than he actually was. I think if he had not been so in love with the idea of coaching at Notre Dame, he would probably still be at Tech and beating UGA at least 50% of the time. Chan was a bad hire. He was a good man, a football-smart man (I hear him speak twice and was very impressed), but he did not have a real college football mind. And he was too “loyal” to certain players, like Richt is to certain coaches. He needed to go when he was fired. I DO think Johnson will get it done. We need better recruiting, but I don’t think that should all be laid at his feet. Tech has NEVER had GREAT recruiting, but we have had a few REALLY GOOD players who could carry us to victory. Johnson has yet to find one of those players (Nesbitt was that kind of player, but Johnson didn’t recruit him), but I don’t think it’s for lack of trying, like some would suggest. I like his offense, and if we can build a good, if not great, defense, I think we will be fine….REAL FINE
Supersize that order, mutt
January 20th, 2012
11:02 am
I agree with you about BoBo, but I’m going to say something else that I know you are going to disagree with. I think Grantham is going to hurt you too. He is a jerk and a thug. His defenses may be better than Martinez’s, but not really much better. In spite of the final results the last two years, he still hasn’t really stopped Tech’s offense; he contained the inside game, but not the outside game. With any kind of passing threat, both games would have gone completely differently. I think Tech would have won in 2010. We might have lost this past season, but it would have been more competitive. OK, that’s my take on things. After doing all this typing, I hope the hell you come back and read it all, because I am not going to type it again. LOL
Later
Buzz
January 20th, 2012
12:09 pm
Virginia Tech is most vulnerable at the beginning of the season. They just get better as the season goes on.