Georgia Tech bowl notes
Greetings-
A few notes about Georgia Tech’s berth in the Sun Bowl.
1. Chick-fil-A Bowl president Gary Stokan said that, after Virginia Tech was picked for the Sugar Bowl, making the Hokies unavailable, the choices were Tech, Florida State, Virginia and Wake Forest, all of which were 5-3 in the ACC. Virginia owns wins over the Jackets and Seminoles and has a better overall record than Wake Forest. That decided it, Stokan told reporters Sunday night.
So, it would appear, a win over Virginia would have likely put Tech in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Venturing into the “Tech beats Virginia” alternate universe, though, is kind of speculative. Maybe a win over the Cavaliers would have meant Tech would have lost to Clemson. It opens up a whole world of possibilities. Maybe if Tech had beaten Virginia, I would have won the lottery two weeks ago and I’d be making my first mortgage payment on my beachside mansion on Maui. I’d still be blogging, of course.
2. Virginia Tech getting the at-large big into the BCS is good news for Tech. It’s the first time the BCS has taken an ACC team an at-large bid and gives the ACC two chances to do some work on the league’s 2-11 record in BCS bowls. Clemson plays West Virginia and the Hokies play Michigan.
A second BCS bowl means some extra cash for ACC schools. The payout formula is a little involved, so it’s hard to say exactly what it will mean. But the ACC will get $22 million for the Clemson’s Orange Bowl appearance and $6 million for Virginia Tech’s participation in the Sugar Bowl, according to the ACC. After expenses and unsold tickets, the remainder is split 12 ways. If Virginia Tech’s expenses run about $500,000, that would mean an extra $460,000 for Tech. An interesting read about bowl expenses.
ESPN begins its contract with the BCS this year. As such, the Virginia Tech over Kansas State and Boise State decision makes a little more sense in light of ESPN’s many, many dollars involved. It would not surprise me if the network’s poobahs said something like, “You know, if Virginia Tech were in the Sugar Bowl, it wouldn’t bother us.”
3. Tech’s trip to the Sun Bowl will be its first game in Texas since losing at Baylor in 1992. Kind of an odd home-and-home. The Houston Chronicle called the Bears’ 31-27 win “an important intersectional victory for the Southwest Conference.” (For whatever reason, Google seems to be able to track down old Chronicle articles well. Kudos for the paper’s SEO guy.)
This isn’t relevant, but I have a friend named Taylor who went to Baylor. She, however, is not a sailor and doesn’t live in a trailer nor was she a fan of the Hartford Whalers.
4. The game will be on CBS, giving Tech national network coverage for its 2 p.m. EST start, always good for recruiting (particularly if you are winning). But it’ll be overlapped by the Meineke Car Care of Texas Bowl (Texas A&M-Northwestern) at noon and then the Liberty Bowl (Cincinnati-Vanderbilt) and the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl (Illinois-UCLA) at 3:30 p.m.
That last one should be fun, a game between two teams whose coaches have been fired (Ron Zook and Rick Neuheisel).
5. Utah has a 12-4 record in bowls, including nine of the Utes’ last 10. The one loss was to Boise State last year in the Las Vegas Bowl. Coach Kyle Whittingham is 5-1 in bowls, his first victory coming over Tech in the Emerald Bowl in 2005.
6. In the “which team has something to play for?” category, put this on Utah’s ledger: Utah has a 19-member senior class that has the second-most wins in school history at 40-11. Those players can tie the school record for wins set by the 2010 class, which went 41-9.
Tech can finish in the top 25 with a win and stop its six-game bowl losing streak.
7. In the all-important matter of Utah’s familiarity with the spread-option offense, the Utes have plenty. Utah played Air Force, which runs an offense similar to Tech’s, annually in the Mountain West Conference before moving to the Pac-12 this year. Whittingham is 5-1 against Air Force.
8. Not Tech related, but the finalists for the Eddie Robinson Award (national coach of the year from the Football Writers Association of America are LSU’s Les Miles, Michigan’s Brady Hoke, Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy, Clemson’s Dabo Swinney and Kansas State’s Bill Snyder.
Who gets your vote?
Thanks for reading. I’ll have Monday practice material up either late Monday or Tuesday morning.
Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog
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110 comments Add your comment
HighTech
December 5th, 2011
1:36 pm
Thanks for all your work covering the Jackets this season, Ken. Your reports are always interesting and fun to read.
Will you be covering the Jackets at the Sun Bowl?
Tech Rules
December 5th, 2011
1:41 pm
“But the ACC will get $22 million for the Clemson’s Orange Bowl appearance and $6 million for Virginia Tech’s participation in the Sugar Bowl, according to the ACC.”
Considering that both are BCS Bowls, why is there such a big difference in the take?
Spyro
December 5th, 2011
1:43 pm
Hopefully the team can end that awful bowl-losing streak. I’m glad we’ve made 15 straight bowl appearances, but you got to win some of them for it to mean anything!
Also, Gundy for Coach of the Year. HE’S A MAN!!
rave1914
December 5th, 2011
1:43 pm
…dont know taylor. have heard of baylor. at work i sit next to a former navy sailor. have slept at friends’ homes in trailers. and actually saw home games of the hartford whalers…so there…
gtfanfrom1951
December 5th, 2011
1:54 pm
Ken
How may seniors does Tech have on the team?
What about Al G is he coming back?
Sed
December 5th, 2011
1:54 pm
Wow. You can only imagine how angry the BCS execs are being stuck with two ACC teams. Hands down the worst BCS conference without question, and borderline the worst conference overall. Just horrible.
ZinoDawg
December 5th, 2011
1:55 pm
I travel to lovely El Paso on business occasionally. It is the armpit of Texas.
One tip – make sure your hotel room is on the North side of the hotel – it greatly reduces your chance of getting hit by a stray bullet that was fired in Juarez!
Good luck!
Jacket In SC
December 5th, 2011
1:56 pm
I’m a Tech fan, but its hard to believe that Mike London of Virginia was not included as a finalist, at least, for the coach of the year award. Dabo Swinney? His team lost 3 of 4 to finish the year! If it weren’t for their win over Va Tech in the ACC championship game, we’d probably be talking about how he was on the hot seat.
Bobby Dodds Ghost
December 5th, 2011
1:57 pm
BCS has to change its formula, Neither the ACC or Big east should get AQ. Much less 2 spots.
Jacket Dad
December 5th, 2011
2:00 pm
Don’t know much about the Utes, but their bowl record seems strong and ours definitely does not. The key for us to win is that our guys have passion and focus. I was in Shreveport last year and neither was present.
I’m proud of the Jackets this year and want us to excel in our bowl game to propel us into a great 2012!
Merlyn Brown
December 5th, 2011
2:00 pm
Ken, why $22 mil for Orange Bowl and only $6 mil for Sugar? Strange!
Jacket Dad
December 5th, 2011
2:02 pm
Also, I hope this bowl is Groh’s last one as our defensive coach. We need a younger guy who can recruit and coach players up. Not sure we will ever have the players for the 3-4.
GTJeff
December 5th, 2011
2:03 pm
Looks like another bowl loss. Thanks Gailey & CPJ for ruining a once great bowl record for Tech.
Off topic, but is there ANY news on Vad Lee? Is he transferring or not?
Sed
December 5th, 2011
2:09 pm
@ Bobby Dodds Ghost –
Most football fans agree with you. What makes it even more pathetic is the fact the Big Easy has THREE TIMES the number of BCS wins as the inept ACC. Just deplorable.
GTJeff
December 5th, 2011
2:15 pm
Sed you’re & the a-hole calling himself BD’s Ghost can take your trolling somewhere else.
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
2:15 pm
Ken, pay ca$h-easy to blow through lottery money…….
Winder
December 5th, 2011
2:27 pm
The BCS never pays the same amount to the second team chosen from a single conference. That’s how the payout structure is set up.
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
2:40 pm
& give Tech some $ to get a new DC, to make blogging on the Jackets more fun……..expect the Utes will kick our butt……will be on a Pacific beach myself when it happens….couldn’t make the last bowl game because i was snowed in…….
Hayseed Dixie
December 5th, 2011
2:50 pm
Ken,
I agree with juvenal-
If you win the lottery: buy the property outright. Real estate- they don’t make it anymore.
It’ll be interesting to see if Johnson can find a way to motivate our guys.
Both LSU and Air Force had no problem getting motivated for *us*.
Joe P
December 5th, 2011
2:54 pm
I said YOUTHS. Not Yutes!!! Maybe I should have said Peaches so we could play closer to home!
Tech Fan Since 1950
December 5th, 2011
2:54 pm
Ken: Any rumors that GTAA or GT alumni folks might set up a charter jet package to El Paso for Tech fans? Regular airline service between Atlanta and El Paso seems few and far between for the bowl date. Thanks for any guidance.
Sven Ottke
December 5th, 2011
2:57 pm
Sed, you moron, Va Tech was selected by the Sugar Bowl.
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
2:59 pm
funny, Joe-great flick…..
Steve
December 5th, 2011
3:03 pm
Another Tech bowl loss, coming up! Will be funny to see how empty that stadium is. I would guess maybe 500 “fans” from Tech make the trip.
Rico
December 5th, 2011
3:18 pm
LOL! The Kraft “Fired” Hunger Bowl !! Nice UCLA vs Illinois
Spike
December 5th, 2011
3:24 pm
El Paso. Nice. Remember when you dorks made fun of UGA playing in Shreveport? Then the next year you played there and lost? Now you are in El Paso. Priceless.
Born2Buzz
December 5th, 2011
3:29 pm
Ken, thanks so much for your hard work all year. I’m sorry you have to read through the worthless comments to sift our a few decent nuggets.
Do you think the ACC went to the PAC, BIG 10 and SEC (the Big 12 and EAST don’t have much say this year) and said “If we don’t get 2 teams in BCS bowls this year we are blowing this whole thing up.” There really is no rationale for VT getting the Sugar bid, other than they will bring fans and ESPN has propped them up as the marquee team of the ACC.
And if the bowl is called the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl and pits 2 teams that do not have winning records and just fired their coachs, I think it is confirmed that we have WAY too many bowl games.
There are 35 bowl games now, but only 55 teams in D-1 (FBS) division finished the season with a winning record. Again, WAY too many bowl games.
And the once proud Gator Bowl is now the Taxslayer.com Gator Bowl and invited two 6-6 teams. It’s not about the games anymore, it’s all about the money. Sad.
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
3:29 pm
wonder if there was 500 daug fans in the dome at the end of their debacle…..
SilverandBlack
December 5th, 2011
3:31 pm
Paul Johnson sucks and so does GT. Why even show up and play the game when you suck and will lose by 20. Worst coaching move ever by GT! Maybe Grohld will retire! Bunch of Losers!
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
3:31 pm
$port$-presented by E$PN as a way to fill air time……
Joe P
December 5th, 2011
3:32 pm
thx Juvie. Haha
Ramblin Man
December 5th, 2011
3:33 pm
Spike remember when UGA played a soft schedule and got in the seccg then got blown out by a real SEC team. Ah memories.
Ken Sugiura
December 5th, 2011
3:39 pm
Thanks for the lottery advice. I was actually thinking about that on the way back from lunch just now that paying cash would be the smart way to go. when i need financial advice, i know the blog is the place to go.
i should have made that clear about the payouts, given that i was unaware of it until about 15 minutes before i posted. i was in a hurry to get to that lunch i mentioned. (doc chey’s near emory university)
anyway, as Windern noted, a conference gets the big payout for one game and then a smaller payout for a second game. it works the same for any other BCS conference that sends two teams to BCS bowls.
Jacket in SC – i tend to agree with you. i’m not sure how they decided the finalists, but they’re all in the “their teams did exceptionally” category and not the “went from bad to pretty good” category, although it bears mention that no one was expecting much out of clemson this year. or michigan, i guess.
Clemson got no votes in the preseason writers poll and seven in the coaches poll. michigan was also in the “also receiving votes” category. that might make for an interesting blog.
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
3:40 pm
S&B, nothing will ever top(bottom?) Bill Lewis when it comes to bad coaching hires…
Vad Rumors
December 5th, 2011
3:41 pm
Ken, is there any merit to Vad leaving Tech?
Spike
December 5th, 2011
3:41 pm
Ramblin.. Living vicariously through other teams again I see. Typical Tech response. Pathetic, but typical, because we beat you again this year so you can’t say anything about YOUR team, so you have to live through the Gators or LSU. Enjoy El Paso and your six game, soon to be seven game bowl losing streak. Does the soft schedule include Tech?
Tech Fan Plus
December 5th, 2011
3:43 pm
I really don’t care about your speculating. Usually it ends up being a negative for Tech so I can do without it.
That’s my vote if you are interested.
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
3:48 pm
if we keep beating Dabo 2 out of 3, he can stay forever, by me……spite, we enjoy watching anybody beat you…..whether we beat you or not….
dawgfan
December 5th, 2011
3:56 pm
Techies want to talk about soft schedules but don’t want to talk about how the champion of their chump conference got absolutely DRILLED by SEC East #2 this year. This now marks the THIRD year in a row that the ACC Chump has suffered a humiliating defeat out of conference. In 2009, as Techies well know, their Chump program lost to a struggling 6-5 Georgia team. In 2010, the ACC Chump Virginia Tech Hokies lost to JAMES MADISON. LMAO. And now this year’s ACC Chump gets its clocked cleaned by a team that couldn’t even win the lousy SEC East. This is the conference that Tech plays in but Tech fans still want to run their fat mouths about playing soft schedules? Go right ahead Techies. I’m not going to stop you from making a complete fool of yourselves.
Yep, that whole conference strength thing is all about “perception” isn’t it Coach Johnson? Its just a figment of everyone’s imagination!!!
Georgia Tech=JOKE.
Delbert D.
December 5th, 2011
3:57 pm
Ken, I’m glad you’re coming around to the alternative universe theories. String theory say there are 10 the 500th power of them.
Carl
December 5th, 2011
4:00 pm
Any reason why the 4 games on Jan 2nd, a monday are all on around the same time with no mid afternoon game? One i think is at 12 and 3 at 1? I don’t get that. Why not a game at 2 or 2:30 and one at 4?
old tech grad
December 5th, 2011
4:00 pm
Hope the boys can win. Thanks for your efforts Ken. Always appreciated.
I go on the UGA site sometimes on and leave posts but only things that are constructive. The trash talk is really silly. I always taught my children it is a lot easier to tear down than build up. Trash talk is for losers.
Spike
December 5th, 2011
4:00 pm
juvenal..And that is the ultimate point isn’t it? You can’t beat us so you are left with enjoying someone else do it for you. Sad, indeed. Enjoy El Paso. and your losing streak.
Delbert D.
December 5th, 2011
4:03 pm
Cal-Berkely is opening an engineering campus in Shanghai, according to a story in the nyt. The worldwide demand for engineering talent is enormous, and the public school education system in the US is woefully inadequate in science, math and technology.
juvenal
December 5th, 2011
4:10 pm
spite, y’all take it so seriously, living vicariously through your own team- i got a job, a family, Church, watch other sports, hunt-it would depress you to know how little you build up so much bothers me at all, got too much else going on…gotta run, kid’s playing basketball tonight…..
5150 UOAD
December 5th, 2011
4:14 pm
Don’t know where the VAD leaving cam from. His latest FB post today.
Lavaedeay ‘Vad’ Lee
Currently reading Tim Tebow book “Through My Eyes”, and the more I read the more I become inspired to be a better role model and leader than he is on and off the field. IDK how so many ppl hate this guy….. GodBless
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5150 UOAD
December 5th, 2011
4:15 pm
so SPIKE I guess you will be in TAMPA for the game?
Delbert D.
December 5th, 2011
4:16 pm
It’s a great country. I’m glad to see these young people getting a chance to experience it.
Steveo
December 5th, 2011
4:17 pm
I hope the bowl committee isnt expecting Tech to sell many tickets….they couldn’t even sell out their allotment of tickets when they went to the ACC Championship game….gonna be some empty seats in El Paso….just sayin……they just dont travel well…too hard to get all those pocket protectors checked through the security checks….lol.
Ken Sugiura
December 5th, 2011
4:19 pm
high tech – sorry to not answer your question. yes, i’ll be covering the sun bowl.
delbert – thanks. string theory really doesn’t get the attention it deserves on the blog.
FHstinger
December 5th, 2011
4:20 pm
I sure hope our pass defense is better than the last three games.
5150 UOAD
December 5th, 2011
4:21 pm
Steveo…………could it be that Tech fans spend that money on their family or Dental needs(unlike SEC fans) over going to a football game?
Alabama Jack
December 5th, 2011
4:31 pm
I normally would go with the conference, but I think this time Gundy is the man.
Delbert D.
December 5th, 2011
4:32 pm
I was surprised, but pleased to see that VT got the Sugar Bowl bid. They are a team that could really be good as Logan Thomas matures. They lose 14 seniors on the depth chart, 7 starters on offense, including 4 on the OL. 10 starters return on defense, though.
Delbert D.
December 5th, 2011
4:40 pm
Ken – Great link on the bowl expenses. I read a story earlier this year about the issue, and Ohio State lost money the last time they played in the Rose Bowl. The seats for the bands are priced at full face value.
spider
December 5th, 2011
4:45 pm
i will attempt too tune in for every bowl game except the bcs national title game, darned if im going to watch two play ofr 60 minutes and kick a few field goals.
Bowl not bound
December 5th, 2011
4:53 pm
It’s my understanding that due to the timing of the bowl game, the allotment for travel and expenses that GT won’t send more than a pep band to the Sun Bowl.
$500K for VT’s team and band to go to the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans? Sounds low when the fb team’s hanger-ons will triple the number of regular team people and the 300+ band’s either flying or spending a week on the bus plus having to be in the Big Easy area ready to play on Jan 1 for Fan Fest related gigs.
SORRIEST EVER CONFERENCE
December 5th, 2011
4:54 pm
do any Georgia fans ever have anything good to say about any school other than UGA.
William Casey
December 5th, 2011
5:06 pm
Ken, thanks for a great year of covering the Jackets. Very informative and you “called ‘em as you saw ‘em.” Nobody could ask for more. If only there were a way to prevent “dawg wannabes” (not real UGA fans) from coming here and spewing silliness, life here would be grand.
gtcivil
December 5th, 2011
5:07 pm
No editorials this week Ken?
UGA = Yawn
December 5th, 2011
5:26 pm
No matter who won regular season game, GT
vs Auburn is a huge long standing rivalry. They
missed the boat on that one. The history of
college football escapes the CFA selection comm.
mwh6767
December 5th, 2011
5:27 pm
Gt athletics posted some pics on facebook a short time ago. Vad lee was at practice and getting reps. So if he is leaving he is keeping it on the dl for now.
Carl
December 5th, 2011
5:29 pm
We are 3 -3 1/2 point favorites fwiw
Ramblin Man
December 5th, 2011
5:34 pm
Spike, pathetic is living on a blog site of another team and constantly bashing them while also saying they are a waste of time. I actually wanted uga to win, but it was funny looking at fans faces as reality came crashing down. I just find it funny that most fans like you brag about beating a team you should beat and have no problem you can’t hang with teams you should be able to hang with. Good luck in your bowl game and try to find a life outside of living off what a bunch of other people actually accomplish.
Tom
December 5th, 2011
5:47 pm
Hey, Ken….
When’s somebody down there going to tell Carvell he’s not allowed to be wearing his “Super G” kneepads and lipgloss when “interviewing” prospects?
blazer
December 5th, 2011
5:53 pm
42 10 great sounding!
Paul in NH
December 5th, 2011
6:01 pm
Ken,
Great link on the Bowl expenses issue. Interesting that “tax exempt” organizations (aka Bowl Committees) shake down schools that are invited to their games.
Original Spike
December 5th, 2011
6:21 pm
Boy, you guys can sure dish it out, but can’t take it.
19
December 5th, 2011
6:30 pm
Original Spike, I’ll take Michigan State beating the snot out of the bullpups!
Original Spike
December 5th, 2011
6:51 pm
19, You are on. How much? And I’ll take the Utes. After six bowl losses in a row, it’s a safe bet.
All I remember is
December 5th, 2011
7:20 pm
8-4 Florida State beat ONE team with a winning record (7-5 N.C. State) and are ranked,
what a bunch of garbage.
19
December 5th, 2011
7:33 pm
Original Spike, don’t be such a Mook! LOL
19
December 5th, 2011
7:52 pm
All I remember is Georgia was supposed to win the MNC hands down! No was one had a chance against them. Then the pups lost and the CMR had to go ASAP! Then they win some and CMR is the golden boy…again! Then they get beat and he’s got to go…again! Then the DC hits himself in the face after losing to LSU! I also remember the dog nation wants that dude as HC! I agree, he fits your fan base perfectly…at least the delusional ones! You know those “fans”! The ones that have never even been to Athens and could not find it on a map. They post on the Tech blog more than Tech fans.
Jacket Man
December 5th, 2011
7:53 pm
Vad was at practice today, in case anyone was curious.
JacketFan
December 5th, 2011
7:54 pm
Dawgies are the funniest. Outside of seven year olds, they are the only people in th e world who think it is an insult to make fun of someone because they are smarter than they are. Yes, we are smarter, more successful and have a lot more going for us besides just football victories. You guys are losers in every sense of the word. The only thing you have is football wins agatinst us. Great, but you lose at everything else including your own conference. Yes, you beat us in football. We beat you in life. Now, you can back to working the fry machine at McDonalds. Not too heavy on the salt, please.
19
December 5th, 2011
8:03 pm
JacketFan, was IC at the dog’s practice? Was he in a green jersey? Did he find his “heart”? Did he talk back to his teammates? Is he in the running for the Heisman? Enquiring dog fans want to know? I don’t give a hoot!
That’s not completely true. I hope they recruit more like him!
JAWJeRDAWG
December 5th, 2011
8:21 pm
Good luck, Georgia Tech against Utah in the Sun Bowl.
With the Utes success against spread-option teams, this game should be a good one.
It would be nice for the State of Georgia to see both GT and UGA win their bowl game this year.
From this Dawg fan, here’s hoping!
Go Yellow Jackets! and Go Dawgs!
Tony
December 5th, 2011
8:46 pm
Tell Gary Crokan I didn’t want to be in the Peach Bowl either. That building has to be the worst for football. Not because it is a bad building but because of the constant blaring of music and unrelated information coming from I guess the public address announcer. I went to the last football game I will ever attend in that building when Ga State opened their 1st season there. The only time you could talk to the person next to you about the game was when the bands were playing at half time. Then during the SEC Champsioship game this weekend Crokan couldn’t even get the clock to run right. Crokan needs to go and let someone that has a clue run the bowl.
Birmingham Jacket
December 5th, 2011
8:54 pm
Hate to say it… Really…
But GT is as irrelevant now, as we ever have been in the past decade.
Paul Johnson interjected some energy into the program beating UGA season 1, and winning an ACC Championship— 2 goals Gailey never accomplished.
BUT:
1) 3 straight loses to UGA
2) 8 touchdowns this season over 16 quarters (240 mins) of football in our 4 losses.
3) No recruiting classes to date, that finish top 25.
4) 0-3 in Bowl Games, against legitimate teams.
5) Worst defense teams over 4 years in Tech history.
I bought into it. Thought Johnson would turn us around.
Not so sure anymore.
If Vad Lee doesn’t kick ass, and he doesn’t part ways with Al after this season….
I’m joining the FIREPAULJOHNSON.COM website.
Original Spike
December 5th, 2011
8:55 pm
A mook?
ty webb
December 5th, 2011
9:21 pm
Actually, Paul Johnson hasn’t won an ACC championship.
sports
December 5th, 2011
9:23 pm
If there was one team not worthy of a bowl, is was Georgia Tech!!!
Paul Hewitt
December 5th, 2011
9:25 pm
I see where the basketball team isn’t faring so well. Just wait until ACC season, then it will get really bad. I bet all of you miss me real bad by now.
bob
December 5th, 2011
9:35 pm
at least we beat kennisaw state
Bobby Dodds Ghost
December 5th, 2011
9:39 pm
Jacket Fan, Pompous , arrogant , ass , people wonder why every school hates Tech. karma is a MF coming your way. People who believe they’re smarter aren’t.
Ga Tech Old Timer
December 5th, 2011
9:56 pm
JAWJeRDAWG – Classy post. And here’s hoping for a win for UGA against Michigan St. in Tampa. Used to be in the old days that both sets of fans would pull for the other team during games other than “ours”. When we weren’t playing each other – we pulled for the STATE of Georgia to be well represented and win against who ever the teams were playing.These youngsters today don’t understand that way of thinking and good sportsmanship. Today – it’s all about who can “one up” the other side with trash talk and little boy posturing. Georgia fans can be proud of the DOGS winning out after losing their first two. Tech can be proud of beating the preseason forecasted results. We both had slip ups and games we could have / should have won but those chances are gone now and where we are now is due to both teams accomplished and where we should be. Let’s make the best of it and hopefully both teams come out winners with something to build on for next year.
GT ATW
December 5th, 2011
10:54 pm
@ GT Old Timer. Amen brother!
GT-UT
December 6th, 2011
1:01 am
Pretty good article Ken. Thanks.
I’m pretty excited about this bowl run. I hope the team is. Many are coming back and they need to be able to get started off in the top 25 so it matter A LOT. Its also a bit of a gauge on CPJ, IMHO. We need to finish and THAT is a coaching barometer…and I am a CPJ fan…so we’ll see
I’m excited about next year too…GO Jackets!!
Wreck Fan
December 6th, 2011
1:35 am
when i was growing up in the fifties, the ajc would give both teams the same amount of coverage, two full pages. they even had stop action photos of at least one good play. growing up, i had equal feelings about both teams. wallie butts and bobby dood. but, in the end, i went to tech because i lived in atlanta. we all wanted both teams to win. never heard of any trash talking like today. we rooted for each other, except when they played each other. we had friends that went to both schools. today, it is just to much hate in the world. i still like uga, but pull for ga tech. go to all their home games. for those of you that can only express yourself with hate talk, i feel for you. what a sorry life you must live. good luck to both teams in the bowls.
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JAWJeRDAWG
December 6th, 2011
6:04 am
Ga Tech Old Timer / GT ATW / Wreck Fan
It was good to awaken this morning and read your positive comments from my post.
I don’t usually post on the GT blogs, but wanted to show that not all Dawg fans live their life around the success of their football team, and the short-comings of their opponent; outside of football we are in fact, all Georgians.
I too, both grew up ‘old school’, with respect for both schools and always wished GT and all our SEC opponents playing outside our conference well except on game days against UGA.
And I know you are both right, Ga Tech Old Timer and Wreck Fan, I think mutual respect and civility are somewhat a lost trait among the younger generation.
It just seems that those who feel differently have not faced any adversity in life that teaches them that displaying sportsmanship, civility, and kindness to others with words and deeds will often help overcome life’s adversity and discomforts; at least it has me.
Again, thanks for the positive reply.
Hope we can both game-plan well against our bowl opponents, practice hard and focused, stay injury-free, win the bowl game, and recruit well for our positions-of-need for the coming year.
Wishing all a safe and healthy Holiday Season!
GT93
December 6th, 2011
6:48 am
Well said “JAWJeRDAWG” …
Jackson
December 6th, 2011
7:35 am
jawjer
you must be like 80-85 years old
Burdell
December 6th, 2011
7:38 am
Need more fans like Wreck Fan and JAWJeRDAWG…
awbuzz
December 6th, 2011
8:25 am
What a pleasent surprise not to read too much trash take, but to actually see some civiliaty in the banter. I think most GT and UGA fans are like JAWJeRDAWG, Wreck Fan, GT93, Ga Tech Old Timer, etc. Thanks for showing CLASS.
PS – Liked the tongue in cheek additions (Baylor / Tailor / Sailor)… makes us think just bit.
straightjacket 71
December 6th, 2011
8:26 am
Been a Tech fan for 57 years. Getting older now but still loyal to my Family, my company , my faith, and my football team; Georgia Tech….. Good luck to all the Tech football players against the Utes from Utah. I’ll be in the stands at the 40 yard line. Already got my $50.00 seats for myself and my wife, as well as (6) family members.
Tech has provided me many great football moments over the years. I remember them all and will always cherish those cool autumn days at Grant Field watching the fantastic football teams of Georgia Tech, as an independant, a SEC member and an ACC team… Great school, great tradition, wonderful people………………. How can you not LOVE the Ramblin Wrech and Buzz. Its as American as Apple pie and Chevrolet. And that fight song; “I’m a ramblin wreck from Georgia Tech and a hell of an engineer”.
It’s world famous just as Georgia Tech is………………. Go Tech………………..
rharper
December 6th, 2011
8:27 am
Guys, it is good to see that there are those of us out here that do support our state schools like JAWJeRDAWG, Ga Tech Old Timer and Wreck Fan! Now that the in state battle is behind us, let’s wish luck to both of our state schools to represent GA well in their respective bowl appearances. We both need our teams to go out there kick butt and come away with WINS for the state of Ga. There really are good people at both schools who do like to see talent excel!! Go
rharper
December 6th, 2011
8:28 am
DAWGS and Go GA Tech- sorry hit the button before i finished typing!
Wild Bill
December 6th, 2011
8:30 am
Thank you JAWJeDAWG! Same for me, grew up 18 miles from Athens but have always been a Tech fan, even made my own “Rat Cap” when I was in the second grade. I really do not like trash talking and when the players make all of the “look at what I did” gestures after making a good play. None of these actions work in the real and working world. What ever happened to the days when a player was congratulated by his team mates after a good play by the tap on the shoulder pads or butt?
Go all of the State of Georgia teams! Win your bowl game.
Saban
December 6th, 2011
8:35 am
Good luck Jackets in the sun bowl. Your future is bright unlike the cesspool in Athens.
Would it be fair to schedule another game with the Dawgs. Nah I hate seeing Richt throwing his purse at crowell and choakdawg eating 500 krispy kreme`s at halftime.
Miles was kind not to hang 50 on them but Michigan State will finish them off with a 30 point win.
Ga Tech Old Timer
December 6th, 2011
9:32 am
Good Morning All – What a refreshing sight to read the the blog after my post @ 9:56 last night. I guess all the youngsters who spew their hate went to bed early or were disarmed by the change of conversation and didn’t know how to respond to supportive – positive – comments from fans of both teams about the others program and up coming bowl appearance. I think all of us who have been around for a while should form a group called “Old Farts” (Fairness And Respect Toward State) schools.
Freddy Blassie
December 6th, 2011
10:00 am
I don’t think the players will be visiting Juarez like the last time Tech played in the Sun Bowl. Maybe with an escort by SEAL Team Six.
The Sun Bowl really goes all out to show the players and coaches a really good time. It will be a lot more fun if Tech can win the game.
It was a tough loss to Georgie as Tech missed bragging rights to being SEC Eastern Division Champions. Tech would’ve surely represented the SEC East much better against LSU. I do not believe they would’ve quit like Georgie did. Although the Tech QB might have suffered from the “pucker factor” rather than the Georgie receivers, aka “hands of stone”.
UGA = Yawn
December 6th, 2011
10:47 am
No matter who won regular season game, GT vs Auburn is a huge long standing rivalry. They missed the boat on that one. The history of college football escapes the CFA selection comm.
Um, just one question
December 6th, 2011
10:56 am
IF GT cannot sell out Grant Field, why on earth does anyone think that GT fans will ATTEND a game that is possibly 1600 miles – 1700 miles away on the ever dangerous TEX/MEX border??
The Sun Bowl will show about 24,000 empty seats. Without TV revenue, this bowl would have shut down back in the 70s.
Old Blind Dawg
December 6th, 2011
11:05 am
Hey – I have said many times that I wished GT well in their bowl game
In fact I wouldn’t mind if GT was undefeated every year going into our rivalry game – it would increase our SoS
915BornandRaised
December 6th, 2011
11:34 am
Just one question…Two things. 1. The U.S. side of the border is not as dangerous as some people may think. In fact, El Paso is one of the safest cities in the United States. 2. I’m sure there will be a decent number of Tech fans at the game, if not then the locals will buy them. In all my years, the smallest crowd I’ve seen for this game is 47,000. The stadium holds about 52,000. So don’t worry, GT will not be playing in a half-empty stadium like some bowl games do.
Techie
December 6th, 2011
6:35 pm
Sun Bowl???? Our fans won’t even travel to Grant Field. Our fan support is embarrassng. Congrats to PJ and the team for a good seasn though.
hey dawg fan
December 6th, 2011
7:09 pm
42-10
i am surprised that the dawgs were even invited to a bowl given their penchant for urinating and pooping in unattended rooms.
ask st simons what they think of uga nation. they had to use all the money the collected from the uga drunks to clean up the town. even with that they lost a ton of money.
only the dawgs……..
Buzz 2011
December 12th, 2011
6:16 am
GT rolls over the UTES.. These doomer Jacket fans need to become Dawgs and
root for a real Dream team.. Dreaming of ever competing against real teams..
Buzz 2011
December 12th, 2011
6:18 am
Um, just one question?? When is UGA ever going to compete?