Georgia Tech still looks pegged for Sun Bowl

Greetings-

Sorry for the absence. I’ve been covering the NCAA women’s College Cup (soccer final four) up at Kennesaw State this week, which has swallowed up a lot of time and didn’t provide much in the way of Georgia Tech-related blog material, except for that I learned that Tech is the only ACC school without a women’s soccer team. (I knew the school didn’t have one, mind you, but didn’t know that it was the only one in the ACC.)

(If you’re wondering, I don’t see that changing. A lot of women’s soccer teams were added for the sake of Title IX and Tech, for better or worse, doesn’t have to worry about Title IX as much as other schools because of the male-female ratio. Further, room is scarce, as is money in the budget. If Tech were to ever add another sport, my guess it’d be something smaller, like women’s golf or sand volleyball.)

Anyway, I spoke with two bowl directors this week, Steve Hogan at the Champs Sports Bowl and Bernie Olivas at the Sun Bowl, who is fast becoming one of my favorite bowl directors because he’s about as forthcoming as any I’ve spoken to.

Anyway, not much has changed on the Sun Bowl’s end – they’re interested and hope that Tech is available when their pick comes up. However, I called Hogan expecting him to say that Tech was no longer an option or to downplay its chances after the Georgia loss, but he didn’t.

He may have been playing coy, but he refuted the notion that Florida State is a done deal or even the leading candidate. I asked him what would make Tech an attractive option and he said Tech was 8-4, had a win over Clemson, has a rivalry with Notre Dame (a potential opponent), has a history in Orlando, having played in the Champs Sports Bowl twice and the Florida Citrus Bowl in the 1990 season. Not exactly compelling reasons, but he said the matter will be put to vote Sunday. So, at least publicly, Tech is still a candidate for the Champs Sports Bowl.

Olivas did acknowledge the possibility that Clemson could fall to the Sun Bowl if the Tigers got drilled. (The Sun Bowl is contractually obligated to take the ACC title-game loser if it’s still available.) On that topic, if Clemson lost so badly as to make a Chick-fil-A Bowl appearance untenable, the choice becomes Florida State and Virginia, I think. FSU was there last year, but the game has taken teams in consecutive years in the past. Virginia’s case could be made by having beaten both the Seminoles and Jackets.

“I still think Florida State is still heading to the Champs, and in that case, I still think Georgia Tech might be headed our way,” Olivas said. “It’d be them or Virginia, but we’re leaning towards Georgia Tech.”

As for the Sun Bowl opponent out of the Pac-12, Olivas said it’ll come down to one of three teams – Utah, Washington or Cal. The Holiday and Alamo Bowls will likely take two of them and the Sun Bowl will get the third.

The announcement will be made Sunday evening, and it’ll up online soon after.

As for bowl practices, they’re tentatively scheduled to start Monday with five next week. There should be media availability Monday, so I’ll have something up either Monday evening or Tuesday morning.

245 comments Add your comment

Old Gold

December 2nd, 2011
6:18 pm

Just as along as we don’t have to play Utah. I remember getting drilled by them a few years ago. Not worried about that happening this year, but would rather see an opponent we haven’t played before in a long time.

RocketCityJacket

December 2nd, 2011
6:20 pm

Primero.
Ole!

No way

December 2nd, 2011
6:20 pm

Rather go to Music City Bowl and play Florida or Auburn.

RocketCityJacket

December 2nd, 2011
6:21 pm

Well Segundo ain’t too bad.
Old Gold just snuck in there before me.

Auburn Jacket

December 2nd, 2011
6:23 pm

RocketCityJacket

December 2nd, 2011
6:23 pm

The Champs Bowl is the way to go, Cause we would play Notre Dame.
Bring on the Mackerel!

Dawg in N,Georgia

December 2nd, 2011
6:32 pm

You should just stick with basketball, everyone knows that Tech can not hang with the DAWGS. Maybe the toiletbowl would be a better place for a team like Tech.

wolfman

December 2nd, 2011
6:36 pm

@Dawg in N,Georgia: Didn’t take long for a DAWG to show their class (or lack thereof)…..

Jacketguy

December 2nd, 2011
6:37 pm

Ken… You do a great job… thank you !!

Jacketguy

December 2nd, 2011
6:39 pm

Dawg in N. Georgia ….. why do I have a feeling that you never attended ANY college… much less Georgie

Dawg in N,Georgia

December 2nd, 2011
6:43 pm

I normally do not get into talking trash, but after watching how disrespectful Tech fans were as we was trying to honor Larry Munson. Come on now wolfman if you want to talk class lets start with your teams lack of class saturday, now I can only root for Tech to continue its retreat from real football. Tech left the SEC many years ago because the couldn’t hang. And I hope we continue this rivialry just so we can get that easy win at the end of each year.

Dawg in N,Georgia

December 2nd, 2011
6:46 pm

Jacketguy GEORGIA is spelled GEORGIA not Georgie, and yes I am currently in college right now, pulling down a 40 hour job with a side bussiness and president of a school club. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Jacketguy

December 2nd, 2011
6:50 pm

@ Dawg in N. Ga…

Georgia is spelled Georgie by Tech fans…. LOL…

Good luck with your school work.. I know what its like to work your way through school …. best of luck to you… keep the faith..

Jacketguy

December 2nd, 2011
6:51 pm

@Dawg in N. Ga…

by the way… I dont smoke… LOL

Dont take these blogs so seriously …

Saban

December 2nd, 2011
6:55 pm

Dawgs lose by 50 on Saturday and play Arkansas in a bowl game and lose by 50 more. Richt gets a new contract. Life is good.

RocketCityJacket

December 2nd, 2011
6:58 pm

I wouldn’t mind playing in the Sun Bowl BUT who wants to play Utah. I have absolutely no interest in playing the “Utes”. Give me some good ole fashioned competition, with a little spite thrown in for good measure, against any SEC team or even better against Notre Dame.
The ideal match-up would be GT vs ND in the Champs.

yellow britches

December 2nd, 2011
7:00 pm

Nashville looks good to me. I think an Auburn, Tech dust up would be fun and we might actually win a bowl game for a change.

HighTech

December 2nd, 2011
7:01 pm

Dogs like to drink out of toilet bowls. Thanks for the Georgie spelling correction. Good luck with your side bussiness.

Another dumb dawg

December 2nd, 2011
7:02 pm

Dawg in N. Georgia,

Congrats on the win. I was at the game and I can tell you most of the GT fans around me in section 223 – 224 observed a moment of silence and behaved in a respectful manner. Im not sure what you’re talking about… I had some folks who didnt like the man but still respected him for what he was. I dont want to hear about class from a Georgia fan… No sir! Sure dont. I had 3 Uga fans seated in row 10-12 in section 223 cursing like a darn sailor… I keep forgetting that we are dealing with the Cesspool of the south! Guess you guys forget that you’re not sitting in Athens, Ga and need to be told to behave yourself.

Write it down.

December 2nd, 2011
7:13 pm

@Dawg in N,Georgia
Who said:
“Tech left the SEC many years ago because the couldn’t hang.”

If you’re going to spew hate, then make sure you have the facts right.
Tech has *more* SEC championships than most of the schools in that conference — and we’ve spotted them almost 50 years.
Dodd pulled Tech from the SEC because he didn’t like some of the recruiting practices of other schools.
As far as your 40hr/week, while in school, I applaud that. I did it too and it ain’t easy — especially at Georgia Tech. Since Tech is a traditional day-time school, I worked at night.

awbuzz

December 2nd, 2011
7:17 pm

Dawg was taling about the poor showing by some of the student section in the south end zone during half time. they yelled out THWG a couple of times. The students were booed in our section. Me and some other GT fans apologized for the lack of class displayed by those students.

Jacket Follower

December 2nd, 2011
7:20 pm

@ Dawg in N. Ga…

I was also at the game and saw absolutely no disrespect for Munson from anyone! Likewise, the only ugag fan around us, who was with his young son, spitting out the f-bomb frequently and for no good reason.

reebok

December 2nd, 2011
7:21 pm

I am getting sick of hearing this crap about Tech fans booing during the Munson tributes. I was in the stands, and everyone was respectful. Knock off the BS.

On a different topic, good luck in the SEC Championship, Dogs. You earned it.

George Gillen from Guntersville

December 2nd, 2011
7:24 pm

Amazing video of a high school senior from Columbia TN who kicks the ball dead straight 75-80 yards in the air. He was successful on 54 of 54 attempts this season….100%. Now he needs a college team. Wants to play for Georgia Tech!

Watch for yourself…it is unreal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_JKwgwFY3g

sting'um

December 2nd, 2011
7:30 pm

Have heard thru the grapevine this youngster is extremely serious about signing with TECH.

GT

December 2nd, 2011
7:34 pm

I guess vad lee is listening to the clash song should i stay or should i go now.

Tech Man

December 2nd, 2011
7:42 pm

“Write it Down”. Tech left the SEC for two reasons (1) Academic wise, Tech could not compete with the basket weaving schools in recruiting, i.e. Alabama, Georgia, (Jan Kemp)-players came in and couldn’t read). Bobby Dodd got tired of watching Bear Bryant allowing 120 players on scholarships at a time. Bryant would sign a kid just to keep him from going to another school. This was before the 85 limit we have now. and (2) the Chick Granning incident where an Alabama player deliberately tried to seriously hurt a Tech player (Granning) while on the ground. Broke his jaw and other injuries. Bobby Dodd had enough of the SEC and decided to pull the plug. Fast forward today. Tech now has a major (Business) which a good student athlete can pass where as before the least demanding major was Industrial Management which still has a lot of math and science. So you see here is the real story. And another thing, the reason Tech cannot develop a decent fan base is because it’s graduates are all over the world whereas DAWG graduates normally stay home, teach school, or go to the farm. They stay in the state. I asked my daughter, who is a Georgia graduate, and loyal DAWG fan “If her son was offered a scholarship to Tech and Georgia (not in sports) where would she want her son to go? She looked at me like I was crazy and said Tech of course-I want him to be able to support me when I get old. So there you go.

5150 UOAD

December 2nd, 2011
7:43 pm

Where are you people getting Vad is leaving? he would have to sit another year more likely than not if he transfers. He has a great chance to be the starter at Tech next year.

GT GRAD

December 2nd, 2011
7:48 pm

Can Vad Lee play in the bowl game and still have eligibility for 2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015?

If the answer is yes……….I would really like to see what this kid can do running the Triple Optiion!! I am a huge GT fan; however, I am also a realist……….Tevin Washington has proven to be an adequate QB, but I do not think he has the tools/skills to take GT into the Top 10 (I sincerely hope Vad Lee can get this team there). The QB is obviously not the entire team, but GT definitely needs a better playmaker at the position to nove GT into the Top 10. I also think we need improvement at OL, DL and special teams!!

Hayseed Dixie

December 2nd, 2011
8:01 pm

Tech fans being disrespectful during the Munson tribute?

Nope.

In fact quite the opposite.

All the grown men around me either applauded or were respectfully silent.

People who weren’t actually there love to stir the pot.

Get back to me after the Wes Durham tribute at Sanford in about 50 years. Would you UGA fans bet the farm on your ilk behaving themselves?

Didn’t think so.

Hayseed Dixie

December 2nd, 2011
8:03 pm

The Vad Lee transfer crap is a UGA joke played on the sad and the gullible.

Always prefferable to be in neither group.

Jacketguy

December 2nd, 2011
8:07 pm

Tech left the SEC because of recruiting differences… and the opinon that they were strong enough to make it on their own as an independent… pro sports and “hippie love” changed alot of things in this country… education and ambition being a couple of those things.

Tech and Georgie are different schools …. with different missions…. it has always been that way… and will always be that way. A Tech graduate will be greeted with greater esteem globally, as opposed to a graduate from Georgie… thats a fact! The Institute is more focused on academics…. that is a fact… does anyone really believe that Crowell would have been admitted to Tech? He wouldnt have…. nor would many of those playing for Georgia. They are better at football….. just may not be better at achieving a salary that is considered to be part of the top 1% of earners in this country.

The schools are different… but fierce rivals…in economic times like these… its good to be a Jacket… yeah, we lost a football game… but I appreciated my paycheck on Nov 30th.!

dogfromfl

December 2nd, 2011
8:26 pm

I her Archie and Dede have their bags packed for El Paso……..

BDS

December 2nd, 2011
8:27 pm

Sorry but the Vad lee transfer talk is not a joke. He is going to NC this weekend to talk it over with his family. If we lose him, we’re screwed for a while.

5150 UOAD

December 2nd, 2011
8:30 pm

BDS and you know this how?

19

December 2nd, 2011
8:32 pm

I’d love to see Tech play Notre Dame.
Any Dawg making an issue of the Munson tribute is making much of nothing. Some students yelled THWG. The rest of the Tech faithful showed respect. Just a reminder, Vince Dooley was asked if a tribute would take place in Athens after Al Ciraldo passed. Dooley’s response “HELL NO!”. Now that’s class!
Sorry, that’s just a fact unlike the phony outrage you have North Georgia Dawg. Please look it up.

BDS

December 2nd, 2011
8:38 pm

I have friends in low places.

TechRon

December 2nd, 2011
8:38 pm

I believe Tech left the SEC also because they would not have to share bowl money if they went independent. Who knew that we would go in the tank as soon as Dodd left? It turned out to be a very bad choice to leave the conference, that is for sure. That was before the era of the black player began. Up til then, there were no blacks at southern schools (the ones that are in Division 1 now). Tech recruited white athletes very well back then. When that changed, we fell behind.

Face it, today you look at the best college teams and a lot of them have 100% of their starting defense are black players. I think that the curriculum choices at Tech just have to reduce your
chances of getting players with marginal academic records. At a true university, you have more choices. You might have great schools within that university (like many at UGA) but you also have PE as a major and lots of other lighterweight degrees that contain little or no math and science. If you are a kid who thinks that college is just his steppingstone to the NFL, are you really going to go someplace where you think you will have trouble with your schoolwork? I think Tech really has to do some soulsearching about this and either de-emphasize football or put in a major where marginal kids can stay in school. Tech has a great football tradition, but most of it is ancient history. We haven’t been worth a damn at football since O’Leary walked out. That is a fact. Even though we have had a couple of decent years with Johnson (and one excellent one) we still cannot hang in with the best. We are not getting good enough players.

George Stein

December 2nd, 2011
8:38 pm

Lee had some cryptic tweets back to Jamal Golden after the game Saturday. Neither were thrilled with not playing this season. We’ll see what happens.

5150 UOAD

December 2nd, 2011
8:40 pm

BDS…………..if that is all you have I don’t believe a word you say then. You have to do better than that.

Old Blind Dawg

December 2nd, 2011
8:40 pm

More denial – if you missed the booing during the Munson tribute pay a visit to Youtube and listen. Now back to football.

Tech will get a bowl that doesn’t historically need a large group of traveling fans to balance the books.

UGA has a large fan base not only because many grads stay in state (a misconception really) but they have a huge following from folks that didn’t attend UGA. GT has pretty much isolated itself by being snobbish to would be fans and also they have been relatively insignificant on the field – ouch but the truth.

Good luck in whatever bowl you land – unless of course you play an SEC team :-)

5150 UOAD

December 2nd, 2011
8:43 pm

If he was unhappy not playing this year then LEAVE. These kids think they are ready just out of high school and most really are not. Not football or living on their own and going to class wise.

5150 UOAD

December 2nd, 2011
8:45 pm

Old Blind and DEAF Dawg you need to post the link to the YouTube video.
Maybe it was a UGA fan filming and making the noise. I was at the game and you didn’t hear any Booing. Sorry I don’t buy it. It is UGA trying to make SH.T up.

George Stein

December 2nd, 2011
8:46 pm

I don’t think our snobbishness – whatever that means – has anything to do with the size of our fan-base, OBD.

5150 UOAD

December 2nd, 2011
8:55 pm

OBD how soon do you think Kennesaw State will be selling out their stadium for football in a few years? Most Kennesaw St Grads & Students Stay in the state and many are from the Cobb area. Kennesaw St is the 3rd largest college in the state. They could have more fans at game than TECH very soon. TECH grads don’t all come from Georgia (because the State sucks in Education) and don’t stay in Georgia. Yes, MOST UGA students and Grads come from Georgia and remain in Georgia.

5150 UOAD

December 2nd, 2011
8:57 pm

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Total enrollment: 18,551
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Total enrollment: 17,135
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230gr Full Metal Jacket

December 2nd, 2011
9:07 pm

Old Blind Dawg — I was at the game and right beside the student section. The ONLY time I heard any booing was when the team came on the field at the start of the game and when the band (sic) was taking the field during half-time. NOT during the bands “performance”/tribute. Typical spin and lies by delusional pups fans.

A UGA fan talking to ANYBODY about class? Now THAT’S funny, I don’t care who you are!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

December 2nd, 2011
9:11 pm

Tech had a tribute to Munson before the game started, and everybody around me was very respectful during the tribute. Apparently, the Georgia band spelled out Munson on the field at halftime in tribute to him. NOBODY pays any attention to half-time band shows. I didn’t even know there the band had done anything until the next day. Tech students boo and yell THWG the entire game; I doubt most of them had any idea anything was going on on the field either, especially since they had a sideways view of the band. If what a few students did that might have been construed (rightly or wrongly) as disrespect for Munson, get over it. I have seen, and personally encountered, far worse treatment by Georgia fans in Athens.

As far as the bowl opportunities go, I would LOVE to play Notre Dame again in a bowl, so that’s the one I would prefer, given that chance.

Supersize that order, mutt

December 2nd, 2011
9:14 pm

To the person who asked if Vad Lee could retain 4 years eligibility if he plays in the bowl game, the answer is NO. Playing in a post-season game would count the same as having played the entire season.

19

December 2nd, 2011
9:19 pm

Hello Supersize!