Tech notes on Duke, bowls, UGA

Greetings-

Some notes and observations from Durham and a brief look ahead to Saturday’s game.

1. It was one of Tevin Washington’s best games this season. He made plays both running and passing and got the ball pitched to the A-backs for a few big plays. He had that 39-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter in which he shook off a couple tackles to get to the end zone.

I haven’t asked Paul Johnson or Brian Bohannon about this, and perhaps I should, but he’s shown a knack for getting off pitches at the very last instant, as he’s going down, to free up the A-backs.

“I think it was really Tevin reading,” Embry Peeples said, explaining the alleys he had for his runs. “They were trying to slow play him (force him to keep the ball), but he could kind of get close enough to them where they had to attack and he could just kick it out.”

A great stat from Tech sports information guru Dean Buchan: Washington’s 321 yards of total offense were the most by a Tech player since a 367-yard game in 2005 by Reggie Ball.

2. Duke quarterback Sean Renfree had season highs for a Georgia Tech opponent with 26 completions on 42 attempts and four touchdowns. His 250 yards were shy of Clemson quarterback Tajh Boyd’s 295. Boyd was 23-for 40.

Tech did not sack Renfree, continuing a pattern of not getting consistent pass-rush pressure. Renfree made it hard by getting rid of the ball quickly, but there were instances when he took longer drops and had protection. He was hurried a few times and flushed from the pocket.

In the past four games, opponents have 121 pass attempts and have been sacked three times, a 40.3 pass-per-sack rate. In Tech’s first seven games, opponents threw 203 times and Tech had 16 sacks, or a sack for every 12.7 passes.

I realize the numbers don’t say everything. A quarterback pressure that leads to an interception is far more valuable than a sack, for instance. And Tech’s sack total through seven games is weighted with a seven-sack game against North Carolina. But, it says something.

3. Tech’s loss to Virginia looks a little better with the Cavaliers’ defeat of Florida State Saturday night in Tallahassee. Virginia will play for the Coastal title next Saturday against Virginia Tech. It’s funny; before the Tech-Virginia Tech game, everyone (and I include myself) basically said that the game was for the Coastal title, assuming Virginia was going to take a third conference loss at some point. It wouldn’t surprise me if Virginia were to win Saturday in Charlottesville. It’d be the first time the Coastal representative hasn’t been Tech or Virginia Tech in the game’s history, going back to 2006. Four schools (Boston College, Wake Forest, Florida State and Clemson) have come fro the Atlantic side.

Crazy ending to that game. After Virginia drove late to go up 17-16, Florida State got the ball back with a minute left. On the last possession, there was an injury to a Virginia player that required him to be taken off on a cart, a facemask penalty on fourth down that kept alive FSU’s drive, a pass completion that appeared to end the game but was judged an incompletion on replay, giving the Seminoles a chance to try a last-second field goal, a penalty on Virginia that moved the field-goal attempt five yards and then finally the field goal itself, which hooked left.

Mostly, I was thinking that I was glad I didn’t have to write that game story on deadline. That would have been brutal.

4. I think both Clemson and Florida State’s losses improve Tech’s chances of playing in either the Chick-fil-A or Champs Sports bowls. I think it goes without saying that any bowl wants to put the best game together that it can, because, among other things, it likely means better ratings and fan bases that are excited enough about their teams and their bowl game to buy tickets.

If the Tigers and Seminoles crash and burn next Saturday against South Carolina and Florida, respectively, and Tech pulls the upset of Georgia, I don’t know if it’d be probable that Tech would end up in one of those games, but I’d say at least their chances would be pretty good. If Clemson were to lose in the ACC title game, that’d be a three-game losing streak, the Tigers would be out of the polls and Tech would be the highest-ranked team of Tech, FSU and Clemson. It’s conceivable Virginia might be a more viable option for the bowls at that point.

A lot is still up in the air, though. Virginia is finishing strong. Virginia Tech, if it beats Virginia but then loses to Clemson in the title game, is always a popular choice for the Chick-fil-A Bowl.

At this point, I’d think the Sun Bowl is still the most likely destination, but a lot can and will change things.

5. Except for the kickoff return unit, special teams was pretty good. The kickoff cover team kept Duke inside the 30 four out of six times and David Scully had his fourth touchback of the season.

Justin Moore made his fourth consecutive field goal and continued his PAT streak to 52.

6. An encouraging effort by B-back Charles Perkins in his stint filling in for Preston Lyons, save the fourth-quarter fumble Didn’t break any big plays, but he got four first-down runs and looked like he was running hard. I’m not sure how to tease out the numbers, but I’ll give the principal B-backs 905 yards (the 794 that Sims and Lyons had going into the game plus the 111 Sims and Perkins gained Saturday) for the season. (That wouldn’t count yards gained by Perkins and Richard Watson previously. It’s kind of nebulous, I realize.) With two games remaining, it would appear that they’ll be able to clear 1,000 yards to continue the B-back 1,000-yard streak, perhaps with ease.

7. Tech benefited from a holding penalty against Duke on the Blue Devils’ final drive of the game. It was just the fourth time this season that a Tech opponent’s offense has been called for a hold this season.

8. Two important objectives for Tech this week.

a) Find a way to stop Georgia quarterback Aaron Murray. If the pass rush doesn’t improve, the onus will be on Louis Young, Jemea Thomas and their cadre to deliver. Georgia tight end Orson Charles looks like a matchup challenge.

b) Punch up the B-back production some more. The 111 yards and two touchdowns Sims and Perkins gained were a good start. (The 25 carries, the most this season for the position by one, helped.) Against the No. 2 run defense in the country – 81.3 yards per game, 2.8 yards per carry – Tech will need as many viable options as it can have.

9. Condolences to the family of Larry Munson. He is a legend in this state and in college football and is an indelible part of the Tech-Georgia rivalry.

10. Tech and Georgia fans – let’s be civil this week. Good-natured ribbing is fine, but if you want to be obscene, disrespectful and generally unpleasant, you aren’t welcome to post and I’ll do my best to make sure you can’t. No tolerance this week. I’ll be busy this week, so it might take me a few hours to get to it, but I’ll ban with pleasure those who can’t play nice. “He started it” and “I couldn’t let those remarks go without a response” are not legitimate excuses.

Links

Durham Herald-Sun game story with sidebar on wide receiver Donovan Varner, another from the Raleigh News & Observer and the Associated Press.

Seth Emerson of the Macon Telegraph reports on Georgia turning its attention to Tech.

All of Chip Towers‘ excellent coverage of the Bulldogs here, including an obituary of Munson that’s definitely worth a read.

An old story but a good one. A 2008 Jeff Schultz column about how Johnson nearly became Georgia’s offensive coordinator.

Thanks for reading. Enjoy the week.

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

366 comments Add your comment

Bamajacket

November 21st, 2011
4:16 pm

Lex, no doubt you are correct. The last several weeks, UGA D has really been impressive. However, the VT Clemson beats GA, I think. The NCST Clemson gets killed by GA. It’s all about which team shows up week to week. Don’t you just love college football?

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:16 pm

Tampa, again, you apparently can’t comprehend what you read. I said:

“beating UGA is no doubt the one we want the most”

But sorry, an undefeated #5 BCS team is more IMPRESSIVE than beating UGA who has beaten NOONE of significance.

But again, UGA is the one we want the most

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:17 pm

You are right, Tampa. We looked like we could beat the Packers against Kansas. As it turns out, we would probably lose to the Packers.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:19 pm

Tampa, thanks for your remarks. I guess that proves that I am not as ignorant as some of your mutt trolls who post on here always claim….LOL

Let’s face it, it’s stupid for anyone to say any one team would by default destroy, or even just beat, any other team, Anything can happen on any given Saturday (or whatever day of the week the game is played). Just look at all the MAJOR upsets this past weekend. I think Tech has the tools to beat UGA, and I also think UGA has the tools to beat Tech. I’m hoping that Tech is better equipped, and you are hoping UGA is better equipped. We will know about 3:30PM Saturday which of us comes out on top.

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:20 pm

institute, UVA won 7 games TOTAL over their last two years and this year, their big out of conference win was Indiana. Let them beat teams out of conference that actually have any history, any relevance, any chance at a bowl game.

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:20 pm

Gotta disagree with you, Institute. Even though the SEC East wasn’t much to look at, beating a division champion of that conference is more impressive than beating Clemson.

However, at this point I don’t care about the relative impressiveness (if that’s a word) of the wins. BEAT GEORGIA.

T3

November 21st, 2011
4:21 pm

Turnovers have the key the past 2 years.

No turnovers by GT Offense = GT Win.

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:22 pm

Tampa says “our defense is legit”. Against the following SEC offenses:

Tenn #98
Auburn #93
Fla #91
SC #80
Vandy #102
Ole Miss #114
Kentucky #118 (out of 120!)
MSU #87

Hate to break it to you sugar, but GT is #16, so UGA is in for a rude awakening.

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:23 pm

Here we go with the history lessons from Tampa. UVA has won 7 games the past 2 years? And? That’s relevant to this year how?

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:23 pm

I hope you’re right, Institute. It’ll decide the game.

south

November 21st, 2011
4:24 pm

Bamajacket – finally someone states reality. You can’t compare team to team, week to week. Matchups play a part, teams improve, turnovers play a factor.

I think the overall body of work by both teams is similar, but opposite. UGA has relied on their defense primarily and Tech on their offense.

Pretty even if you ask me, but I like UGA’s chances if Crowell plays the WHOLE game.

Bamajacket

November 21st, 2011
4:24 pm

Heck, George. I’ve been a Tech fan since 1961. Look at the records for the last 50 years. If UGA was 1-10, and we had already beaten LSU this year, A win over UGA would be bigger. LOL.

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:24 pm

Tampa is right about them winning a non-conference game, Institute. You’re right about the relevance of the past two seasons.

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:25 pm

LOL, Tampa brings up UVA history from 2 years ago, yet scolds someone for bringing up Tech’s win over MSU 3 years ago. I guess one can only go back 2 years, LOL.

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:26 pm

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:16 pm
Tampa, again, you apparently can’t comprehend what you read. I said:

“beating UGA is no doubt the one we want the most”

But sorry, an undefeated #5 BCS team is more IMPRESSIVE than beating UGA who has beaten NOONE of significance.

But again, UGA is the one we want the most


aaaand

I stated facts too, Tampa. Reread:

“UGA loses to SC who lost to Auburn who got destroyed by Clemson who got destroyed by Tech.”

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Now, I am pretty sure you can normally read institute, but I said nothing about the clemson win not being as big as the UGA win or not bigger or whatever. I also didn’t do much, ” we beat them, they beat those, we beat those by way of transitive theory of relativity” .. apparently, you are just out to attribute all the Dawg posts to me. Have fun with that. I not going to even give it an ounce of my time.

Soooo, SUPERSIZE, how have things been? Still enjoying retirement?

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:27 pm

I agree, Bamajacket. I graduated in 2004 so wins against those guys have been rare. The UGA game is unquestionably the biggest of the season every season.

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:29 pm

Let it go, Institute and Tampa. Y’all aren’t going to come to a meeting of your respective minds today (or tomorrow, for that matter).

Bamajacket

November 21st, 2011
4:30 pm

Tampa, you’re cracking me up. Don’t all dawgs look alike? Good post. LOL.

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:30 pm

Point is institute, let me try again, you’re trying to convince people that UVA is some powerhouse after coming off back to back to back losing seasons. Yet, this season, admittedly is going well, but they haven’t even played a quality team outside of their conference. So I am supposed to just give them the benefit of the doubt that they MUST be a dominant team outside the conference because they are winning inside the conference?

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:30 pm

Okay Tampa, so what exactly was the point of your post:

“You conveniently ignore us shutting down Tennerseeeee with Bray while they put up 50 on Cincy that destroyed NCSU that just DEEEstroyed Clempson.”

Just stating facts for no reason, or is there some point here?

south

November 21st, 2011
4:30 pm

No kiddin, I have a headache and it’s Monday

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:31 pm

LOL Bamajacket, we all look alike? Ummmm, hardly. I saw Aron White flex once, I got a lot more time in the gym to LOOK ALIKE that.

George, you are correct, thank you for being the voice of reason.

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:31 pm

Tampa: so you give no credit to UVa because “they haven’t even played a quality team outside of their conference.” Maybe if they got beat by Boise State 35-21 you WOULD give them credit?

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:33 pm

I would give them credit for at least having enough nads to schedule it and keep in mind, UGA was never out of that game and that’s a top 10 BCS team

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:33 pm

I can think of 3 games more important than the UGA game:

BCS title game
Orange Bowl Game
ACC championship Game

CPJ will even say, the #1 goal EVERY year is to win the ACC.

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:34 pm

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:30 pm
Okay Tampa, so what exactly was the point of your post:

“You conveniently ignore us shutting down Tennerseeeee with Bray while they put up 50 on Cincy that destroyed NCSU that just DEEEstroyed Clempson.”

Just stating facts for no reason, or is there some point here?

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SO THERE’S THE PROBLEM! Institute is having trouble reading. NOT MY POST HOMIE!!!!! Oh my, this is funny stuff.

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:35 pm

I respect Dawginlex like a digital brother, but his words are his words and my words are my words. If you read the tag on the left, it helps you figure out the difference.

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:35 pm

Eh, when we won the conference two years ago, it felt hollow because if the UGA game, Institute. But maybe that’s just me.

Bamajacket

November 21st, 2011
4:36 pm

Tampa, you reminded me, I played against Jimmy Poulus in high school, when he was at Towers. He was a shrimp. I saw him 3 years later on the UGA campus….I didn’t introduce myself. LOL.

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:36 pm

Damn, you and Lex got me confused… why did that fool conveniently disappear, leaving you to feel the wrath? Some friend.

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:38 pm

I’m pretty sure if you ask mutt fans, they’ll tell you they’d rather beat LSU next weekend than beat GT This weekend.

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:40 pm

LOL Institute, you drive a hard, quality debate dude, but that was funny. He pops on and off often because of work I think. I get stuck babysitting computer processes and tests and crap so I can work the blogs in between tests and copies and stuff.

Josh

November 21st, 2011
4:40 pm

FACT – ACC is 11-11 vs. SEC head to head over last 3 years, including 3 wins in a row.

The SEC has two elite teams per year. That is the only difference in the conferences right now and causes the vast over-perception of dominance by the media and ignorant fans. Teams 4-12 are a wash, but the ACC needs a national championship caliber contender or two to reach their level.

Are the SEC defenses that good or the SEC offenses that pathetic? Wait I think GA Southern and Furman just scored again.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:41 pm

Tampa, I ALWAYS enjoy retirement. I don’t do a damn thing unless I want to. What’s not to enjoy? LOL

TampaDawg

November 21st, 2011
4:42 pm

Institute, I am torn on that one. I would rather beat LSU on one hand and have the SEC championship. On the other, it doesn’t feel right when you win a title and lose a rival like when we have won the SEC in years past in season when we lost to UF (usually though because it cost us a NC shot). On the other hand though, if we beat Tech but lose to LSU, most would say that’s how it was expected (no jab attempted here) to play out. Accomplish the expected or accomplish the “impossible”?

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:43 pm

George, I’m with you. At the time I thought winning the ACC was more important, but I don’t now. I would rather beat the dawgs than be in the running for the BCS NC. Of course, I guess the latter wouldn’t be possible without the former, so let’s do both. LOL

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:45 pm

Wow Supersize. more important than a BCS title shot? Let’s see, we beat UGA 39 times in our history. We have 4 NCs…. I’ll take the title shot.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:45 pm

Tampa, I would bet that if you lost to Tech and beat LSU, you would have the same empty feeling that George Stein said he had. And on top of that, you would have to listen to Tech fans proclaim for a solid year that we are the real SEC champion, just like you UGA fans did to us two years ago. I can promise you, you will not like that, nor will any of the other UGA fans.

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:45 pm

Then that’s their decision, Institute.

But I want this game badly for a few reasons. First, it means no more nine of ten talk. Richt will be trading punches with Johnson. Secondly, it ensures we NEVER hear about 2009 again because they won’t want to think about the season we returned the favor.

Go Jackets!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:46 pm

Institute, you got it, but like I said, the NC shot in all likelihood wouldn’t ever happen anyway unless we were undefeated, which would mean beating the dawgs.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:47 pm

right again, George

dawgfan

November 21st, 2011
4:47 pm

That’s great Josh. We know that Techies don’t think as highly of the SEC as everyone else. This is not news. Anything associated with UGA is immediately downgraded in the mind of a Tech fan. We understand that. But what I don’t understand is what the point of it all is. Let’s assume that UGA and the SEC are as overrated as you say. What does it have to do with Georgia Tech? If UGA is overrated Georgia Tech sure as hell hasn’t been able to do too much about that now have they? One win in 10 freaking years clown. So again, what are you trying to accomplish? It just doesn’t make any sense. I don’t understand you Techies and probably never will. You aren’t the brightest lot. That’s for sure.

Thanks.

Bamajacket

November 21st, 2011
4:50 pm

Supersize, I think that’s because we are in the same position relative to UGA that they are in with FLA. The rivalry always takes on more importance when you need to win a few. GA has had our number. It looks really stupid trash talking when you get your butt kicked 3 out of 4 years. I’m not a big trash talker anyway, but I’m embarrassed for some of these guys. Just shut up and play football.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:50 pm

dawgfan, I think he said that the SEC is overrated THIS YEAR, which, other than the top 3 in the SEC West, they are. And just like past seasons of SEC superiority have nothing at all to do with this year, so does the past years of the Tech – Georgia rivalry have absolutely nothing to do with what happens or might happen this year.

The Institute

November 21st, 2011
4:50 pm

Hate to break it to you George, but instead of the 9 of 10 talk, it will be the 9 of 11 talk.

And we’ll say CPJ is 2-2. And they’ll say Richt is 9-2.

Let me just say, Sunny Miami in January 2010 was EXTREMELY satisfying.

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:50 pm

About as much as all those national titles UGA fans point to as proof of how good they are, dawgfan.

Thanks.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:52 pm

Bamajacket, I totally agree except for one thing……if the dawgs beat Florida (which of course they did this year) and lost to Tech, suddenly ALL of the dawg fans realize that the Tech rivalry is much more important to them than they say it is.

George Stein

November 21st, 2011
4:52 pm

I’d be fine if, on Saturday afternoon, they were saying Richt was 9-2 versus Tech.

And then I’d offer my hearty congratulations on getting fat against Chan Gailey.

Flounder

November 21st, 2011
4:52 pm

@dawgfan … “But what I don’t understand is what the point of it all is” you say.

What none of the GT fans understand is why you are CONSTANTLY on our blogs regurgitating the same vomit. “It just doesn’t make any sense” as you said. GO AWAY!!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 21st, 2011
4:53 pm

Institute, apparently you didn’t go to Miami in January 2010. It may have been sunny, but it was COLD AS HELL !!!!