Georgia Tech’s bowl options

Greetings-

Hopefully you read today’s story about Georgia Tech’s bowl options. Right now, it’s looking like the Sun Bowl, but it could change. It just depends on how Tech and every team ahead of it do.

Take this scenario: Virginia Tech beats Clemson for the ACC title, Georgia Tech wins out against Duke and Georgia to finish 9-3. Florida State drops its last two, against Virginia and Florida. (Not the most likely outcome, but not out of the question.)

In this case, the Chick-fil-A Bowl would have to take Clemson, because it is required to take either the team with the best record in league play or a team within one win. Clemson would be 7-1 and no one in this scenario would be 6-2. (Worth pointing out that any scenario with Tech in the Chick-fil-A would require Tech to win out to boost its candidacy and the ACC title-game loser to have a 6-2 record. All the ACC bowls are required to take either the team with the best league record or a team within one win of that team. Tech would finish 5-3 with a win over Duke.)

That would leave the Champs Sports Bowl to choose between a Tech team that is 9-3, almost certainly ranked and with a fan base that is presumably giddy from the Georgia win and a Florida State team that is 7-5 (5-3 in the ACC) and out of the polls. Virginia would be 8-4 (5-3 in the ACC) and likely unranked and Wake Forest team would be 7-5 (5-3 in the ACC) at best. That would make Tech a pretty good candidate, I’d think.

In the same scenario, but one in which Clemson loses its two regular-season games to N.C. State and South Carolina and then the ACC title game, Tech would be a tempting choice for the Chick-fil-A Bowl along with Florida State if the Seminoles finish well. This possibility is, obviously, unlikely, beginning with an N.C. State win over Clemson.

2. I was driving to Tech Wednesday afternoon listening to the “Chuck and Chernoff” show on 680 the Fan. The topic du jour was a comparison of the coaching jobs by Paul Johnson and Mark Richt this season. Matt Chernoff happened to mention the survey I did with him and a handful of other local media predicting Tech’s season game-by-game. (I usually flip between 680 and 790 as I race down Ponce de Leon, wondering why I didn’t leave 15 minutes earlier.) He brought it up to make the point that he picked Tech to go 8-4, which the Jackets have the chance to match or exceed, which speaks well to the job Johnson has done. Chuck Oliver, to his credit, owned up to his 6-6 prediction. Anyway, I’ve been meaning to dig that up and check on how they’ve fared. Today, dear reader, is that fateful day.

Sorry the chart looks like my 2-year-old together, and that might be an insult to her. The blog software is as adept at sending benign comments to the spam filter as it is at ignoring tabs. Anyway, it’s the game-by-game prediction, with correct predictions bolded. Each participant’s record is next to his name, with the season record after the game-by-game.

In case you forgot, the order of the games this season: Western Carolina (win), Middle Tennessee State (win), nsas (win), North Carolina (win), N.C. State (win), Maryland (win), Virginia (loss), Miami (loss), Clemson (win), Virginia Tech (loss). Duke and Georgia are the last two.


Mike Bell, 8-2               W W W W L W L W W L W L          8-4

Matt Chernoff, 8-2    W W W W L W W L W L W L          8-4

Buck Lanford, 8-2      W W W W L W L W W L W L          8-4

John Kincade, 7-3      W W W W L W W W W L W L        9-3

Zach Klein, 6-4           W W W W L L W L L L W L               6-6

Steak Shapiro, 4-6     W W W L L W W W L W W L          8-4

Chuck Oliver, 4-6      W W W L L L W W L L W L             6-6

With all seven picking the same results for Duke and Georgia (win and loss), Mike Bell, Matt Chernoff and Buck Lanford will pick the most games accurately. Kudos and felicitations to each. John Kincade can still end up being the only one to get the overall record correct. A tough year for Chuck Oliver. Cue the sad cornet.

Interesting that a loss to N.C. State was a unanimous pick, and Bell and Lanford get points for going against the grain and calling the Virginia loss, and Chernoff and Klein for doing likewise with Miami. Shapiro had a near-miss by being the only one to predict a win over Virginia Tech.

You might go back and read the comments they made; kind of interesting. My thanks again to each for participating.

Links

Matt Winkeljohn’s assessment of the Jackets at Duke week for Sting Daily. Ole Matty brought his dog Rupert to Tuesday’s media availability after bringing his twin girls a couple weeks back and bringing his son Patrick to the Virginia Tech post-game interview, where he held the camera for a Heather Dinich interview with Tevin Washington. It went better than another time Patrick came along for an interview Matt did with Arthur Blank. It involved a piece of chocolate and the presumably expensive rug in Blank’s office and did not end well.

This week’s “preparing for the Tech offense” story, courtesy of the Durham Herald-Sun.

A Duke student columnist says David Cutcliffe should not be on the hot seat. I imagine Cutcliffe agrees.

Thanks for reading. Check back tomorrow morning.

No foul language, no posting under someone else’s handle and don’t be an idiot.

Ken Sugiura, Georgia Tech blog

312 comments Add your comment

GT2011

November 17th, 2011
12:07 pm

Chuck is wrong again.

Worm

November 17th, 2011
12:21 pm

Things are looking “sunny”…Over/under on amount of tickets Tech sells-1500

roughrider

November 17th, 2011
12:23 pm

Tech will not beat UGA this year.Sorry, but you have to accept reality.

You were correct...

November 17th, 2011
12:24 pm

…this chart is an insult to your 2 year old – I tried to follow your analysis of it and am still scratching my head…

the xjas0n marcu$

November 17th, 2011
12:27 pm

Sigh. When will they learn.

Crowell likes to smoke some pot
I hate women, not a little, but a lot.
I think my clients are f’n stupid
my blog makes it seem very lucid.
Doing any work at all makes me sick
People should know I have a tiny …. ego.

I <3 Conan

busted link

November 17th, 2011
12:29 pm

“You might go back and read the comments they made” link points to this same post, not the original comments…

the new WnE

November 17th, 2011
12:29 pm

Ken where are your predictions? I know several picked us to go 6-6 this year, and it was expected with such a young team. I am hoping this is the year we end with a bowl win. It has been a long time coming

GIVE ME A BREAK

November 17th, 2011
12:31 pm

Thanks Ken, it would be nice to win these last two games and the bowl. ” GO JACKETS “

UGA ALL THE WAY.

November 17th, 2011
12:33 pm

GEORGIA BULLDOGS RULE, GEORGIA TECH NASTY BEES DRULE. ENOUGH SAID.GEORGIA BULLDOGS WILL FINISH THE REGULAR SEASON 10-2.

GT Dude

November 17th, 2011
12:36 pm

How in the world can Chuck Oliver actually use a moniker of “King of College Football”
He is definitely not the most interesting man in the world

Stay Thirsty my Friends!!!

the xjas0n marcu$

November 17th, 2011
12:39 pm

I LIKE REALLY SHINY THINGS
TO THE FALCONS I REALLY CLING.
LAWYERIN IS WHAT I LIKE TO DO
UFC AND THE GYM TOO.
LET US ALL GET A LONG
OR JOIN CROWELL ON THE BONG.
WHEN YOU INSULT ME IT IS LIKE A CUT
I CANT HELP MY MOM’S A ….. NICE PERSON

GOOOOOO DAWGS!

BG

November 17th, 2011
12:39 pm

Tech sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reebok

November 17th, 2011
12:41 pm

We’ll beat Duke and lose to UGA and finish the regular season at 8-4. Not great, but better than many predicted.I would love to think we can upset Georgia, but I don’t see it…Georgia would have to be looking ahead to the SEC Championship and just not be ready to play. Sun Bowl in Alamo on New Year’s eve isn’t a bad deal for the Jackets.

the new WnE

November 17th, 2011
12:43 pm

I could live with the sun bowl. Warm climate. Maybe get some new interest out of Texas. After last year’s 6-7, expectations were generally low. I was really hoping Vad Lee would see some playing time. But like all good things we have to wait. I think next year and the year after we will really start to see some of the benefits of all the red-shirting CPJ has done.

GT Dude

November 17th, 2011
12:47 pm

Well it’s apparent that the UGA fans are full of themselves with all of the comments on the Tech blog today; I wonder if they might be worried that they might lose to Tech this year so they need to get their digs in early.
Why don’t we just wait to insult each other to after the game in 9 days…

Tech '10

November 17th, 2011
12:51 pm

A win against georiga (and duke for that matter) entirely depends on which tech shows up. We know georgia is going to be prepared. I guess none of the uga fans got the “don’t be an idiot” rule so far.

doodoobailey

November 17th, 2011
12:53 pm

What’s up with all the song lyric posts? GT dude, enough said…let’s wait till after Thanksgiving to talk the smack.

I thought at least one of them would pick you over UGA.

Devil's Advocate

November 17th, 2011
12:57 pm

I haven’t seen this much wishful thinking in a sports article in a long time. GT Dude, it doesn’t matter if Tech beats UGA this season. The problem many Tech fans have is that they hate UGA more than they love Tech and that will only hold you back from where Tech could be one day. When Auburn played UGA I saw so many of my Tech friends cheering for Auburn. Don’t you people realize that you hate Auburn too? When Tech plays Clemson, UGA fans don’t care who wins because a team they dislike will lose.

Look how this article starts. Instead of leading in with “realistic” scenarios it goes on and on about all kinds of complex “what if” scenarios just to get Tech into the Chick-fil-a Bowl. The CFA Bowl is a good one but shouldn’t such speculation be for how can Tech get into a New Year’s Day or BCS bowl? Tech needs to just accept where they land and have the mentality that they will beat whoever they play in whatever bowl they land.

SansWorld

November 17th, 2011
1:00 pm

Ya know. I really like it when the dawgs say Tech does not have a chance to win. This usually leads to GT victory (’08), of close loss (’10).

I thought the over and under for wins would be 7.5, 7 or 8 wins would be expected, 6 a disappointment, 9 would be overachieving. The team is young and in a position to learn and improve next year.

SansWorld

November 17th, 2011
1:02 pm

Devil’s Advocate, how long did the GT fans actually cheer for Auburn turning that game?

GT Rocks

November 17th, 2011
1:06 pm

This the xjas0n marcu$ is about the most stupid person typing. Picking on UGA is more than ok but use a little class or you’re no better than the person you are trying to take shots at.

Kemp, Harrick, and another dead ugga

November 17th, 2011
1:08 pm

@all the way

BWAHhahahahahahahaha….’DRULE”? Really?? HAHAHA…good lord you guys are the worst!

GT Rocks

November 17th, 2011
1:10 pm

@SansWorld… I hear ya, but how many “close” losses add up to wins for us? We are 1-9 over the last 10. Only way we do win is if UGA completely overlooks us but I don’t see that happening. They look way too focused right now.

Sam I Am

November 17th, 2011
1:11 pm

As a UGA fan I always want to beat tech. With that said, a win saturday over KY to win the SEC east and a chance to play LSU or Arkansas in the championship is what I am looking forward to. I loss to tech (although not likely) would not be fun but would have no real bearing on the success of UGA’s season.

dawggirl

November 17th, 2011
1:13 pm

If it were me, playing in the Chik-Fil-A bowl wouldn’t entice me as it’s still right here.

Good luck this Saturday, you should have no trouble.

Then we’ll both be ready for the annual Hate fest. I don’t want to look that far ahead yet, we still have business to take care of ourselves.

Kemp, Harrick, and another dead ugga

November 17th, 2011
1:15 pm

@ advocate
“The problem many Tech fans have is that they hate UGA more than they love Tech and that will only hold you back from where Tech could be one day.”
I hope that this isn’t an example of deductive reasoning that you may have picked up in Animal Husbandry 101. We love Tech enough to hate ugag just as much…pretty simple, really. It has nada to do with what GT will achieve…you have no more idea about that than any of us do…get a grip.

Destin Dawg

November 17th, 2011
1:17 pm

just a tune up game… GT is too small and too slow to play with the Dawgs this year… we’ll play the 2nd string in 2nd half.. rest for SEC. champs.. Go Dawgs beat Kentucky !!

xJasoxn Marcu$x

November 17th, 2011
1:18 pm

GT Rocks, just returning the favor my friend. Something a good lawyer would do. When I am not busy lawyerin, I have to troll the GT blogs and create social media to harass 18 year old athletes just like I learned how to do at UGA. I graduated c um laude from UGA. I am smarter than you. You have no idea.

GT Joe

November 17th, 2011
1:23 pm

Doesn’t matter which GT shows up. Let’s see, the techsters haven’t faced a real defense yet, thier offense is full of holes and about as one dimensional as a piece of paper, their D is about as strong the local high schoolll. Guess that means UGA has no shot. Whatever.

GT Joe

November 17th, 2011
1:25 pm

@ Sams

Thats the excuse this year? A young team? Rebuilding? Sorry, those have been used. Try again.

Rodney

November 17th, 2011
1:25 pm

I come from a stupid family. During the civil war my great uncle fought for the west.

GT Joe

November 17th, 2011
1:26 pm

GO SUN BOWL!!!! WE ROCK!

Rodney

November 17th, 2011
1:27 pm

During sex my wife always wants to talk to me. Just the other night she called me from a hotel.

Les Miles

November 17th, 2011
1:28 pm

GA? Just a tune up game…we’ll use our 3rd and 4th string, and save the 1st and 2nd for the NC Game.

xJasoxn Marcu$x

November 17th, 2011
1:31 pm

Rodney’s comments are refreshing and funny at the same time. I miss that guy. He was always funny.

Ryan

November 17th, 2011
1:32 pm

Chuck Oliver is a fat ugly loud mouth that knows nothing about sports. I can’t stand hearing his annoying voice and will not listen to any show he is on. He constantly bashes tech and the reason being they beat his auburn team twice last decade…the only 2 times they played.

Ken Sugiura

November 17th, 2011
1:32 pm

dawgfan

November 17th, 2011
1:33 pm

I think the UGA v. Tech rivalry should be indefinitely suspended until each and every single Techie signs a sworn statement that they will not make excuses and try to rationalize a loss. I see no point in continuing this supposed “rivalry” when a) it is totally lopsided and non-competitive, and b) Techies refuse to man up and acknowledge UGA’s many victories. I mean really, what’s the point? We have no bragging rights because according to Tech fans we never actually beat them. The refs helped us (2006, 2007) or they had bigger fish to fry (2009) or Johnson “outcoached” Richt (2010). Its always something. I’m just tired of it. As soon as we beat them in a couple of weeks they’ll be chanting “LSU!!! LSU!!!” like they did in 2007. What a bunch of whiny babies. A group of 10 year olds that just lost a backyard football game conducts themselves with more class than a Tech fan does after a loss to UGA. Its pathetic and I think this series should be suspended until Tech fans grow up.

Thanks.

Tyrone Sorrells

November 17th, 2011
1:34 pm

Tech might bring 500 people to the Sun Bowl. Nice fan base.

T3

November 17th, 2011
1:34 pm

Ken:

Still doing an admirable job as the GT beat writer.

You’ll recall my pre-season was GT 10-2, with potential
W-L splits between UNC-NCST and Miami-Clemson.

Didnt see the UVA loss coming.

GT will beat Duke.

And YES, I will repeat my prediction from August:

GT will beat UGA on 11/26.

So, 9-3 regular season. 10-3 with a bowl win.

This is typical

November 17th, 2011
1:38 pm

dawgfan

November 17th, 2011
1:33 pm

Thanks for proving what the whole College Football World knows. GA fans are THE biggest jerks. Every year, the same ol’ “best recruiting class ever”! “National Championship”! And all that happens is another over rated, over hyped GA team. Get on your on blog, you pathetic little troll.

Dan

November 17th, 2011
1:39 pm

Replace ga with auburn this year and uga is 5-5 right now.

GT Joe

November 17th, 2011
1:40 pm

Hey T3, that was funny! Especially about the 11/26 win prediction! How does 1-9, soon to be 1-10, feel to you? Oh wait, GT is a mighty power house in the All Cupcake Conference! AND, watching the cupcake championship game from home! phew!

Ken Sugiura

November 17th, 2011
1:41 pm

TampaDawg, GT Rocks – same guy. clever.

T3

November 17th, 2011
1:41 pm

Idiot dawgfan: (Yes, I know thats redundant):

You do know that UGA officially refuses to acknowledge
the 48-0 beatdown GT gave UGA in 1943 and
the 44-0 beatdown GT gave UGA in 1944,
despite the fact that UGA officially recognizes every other Win & Loss those 2 years.

Isaiah

November 17th, 2011
1:42 pm

Iz my weed in heah?

Georg M

November 17th, 2011
1:43 pm

Does it really matter which Bowl GT plays in? That fan base is absolutely pathetic, why would they make an effort to travel to a bowl game when they struggle to make it to Bobby Dodd?

GT Joe

November 17th, 2011
1:44 pm

Well dawgfan, which typical excuse do you want? Young? Nah? Rebuilding? Nah? My personal favorite is “but we are better in academics.” Classic. If that was the case, then why doesn’t GT move to a lower conference so they won’t be second-rate in the state? But then again, they just might because that would mean GSU…

This is typical

November 17th, 2011
1:44 pm

Georg M

November 17th, 2011
1:43 pm

Why are you here?

GTBob

November 17th, 2011
1:44 pm

dawgfan, our game is pretty much all that you guys have to play for every year. You really want to take that away? I would be happy moving it to a neutral location though. Having UGA fans anywhere near our campus is a horrible thought. You guys aren’t exactly environmentally friendly.