Radakovich addresses expansion

Greetings-

Following Paul Johnson’s news conference, Dan Radakovich visited with assembled news media to address the addition of Syracuse and Pittsburgh to the ACC and also to try to move some tickets. I wrote a couple stories about expansion, one on Monday about the announcement of the move and a second-day story about the basketball ramifications of the expansion.

1. Radakovich noted the work that a group of conference presidents, athletic directors and faculty reps have been doing for the last year and a half looking into expansion and realignment, and that the group had started to drill down in the last three to five weeks.

2. Tech has a home-and-home for 2015 and ‘16 with Syracuse, by which point the Orange will be in the ACC, so Radakovich and associate athletic director Ryan Bamford could have to start finding a new non-conference opponent. Please start constructing your Tech vs. Michigan/Ohio State/Texas/Florida/Oregon/Chick-fil-A kickoff game scenarios.

It’s conceivable, though, that it might not be necessary. Radakovich said he’s in favor of a nine-game conference schedule, which would leave only three non-conference games, which it already has in ‘15 – Georgia Southern, Tulane and Georgia. In ‘16, it’s Georgia and Vanderbilt and TBD. Go Tigerbeareagles!!

Radakovich is in favor of it from a ticket sales standpoint.

3. Radakovich, echoing Swofford’s comments, is not averse to adding 15th and 16th teams.

4. He made an interesting point about the travel concerns for athletes with Syracuse and Syracuse joining, that no one ever brought it up in the days of the Big 8. The Big 8 was actually fairly compact – the longest point-to-point distance in the final iteration of the conference was under 700 miles – but I will certainly acknowledge that flying from Boulder, Colo., to Ames, Iowa, in the dead of winter is not exactly a flight you can count on departing or arriving on schedule.

He also noted that scheduling, the possibility of four-team pods and travel partners, academic advisors and even the relative ease with which athletes can access classroom material, this not be as much of a problem as perhaps it once might have been.

Did you know that Grinnell College (a tiny liberal arts school in Iowa) was once a member of the Big 8? Also, according to the Chronicle of Higher Education, the school’s endowment is $1.3 billion? That’s bigger than Tech’s endowment, which is $1 billion. Grinnell’s enrollment is under 2,000. (If you’re wondering, Warren Buffett didn’t go there, but the co-founder of Intel did.)

5. He said the ACC, despite rumors of its impending demise, was able to remain intact and expand because of the commitment the schools had with each other. He noted the increase in the exit fee to $20 million, which he said could be seen from the outside as “a pair of golden handcuffs” but was in reality a show of solidarity and a way to keep the focus on the improvement and expansion of the conference.

6. Like Swofford again, Radakovich doesn’t see the conference going away from its equal revenue sharing principle, which would seem to rule out the possibility of Notre Dame, with its NBC contract. He did leave himself a wiggle room, saying “there’s a lot of ways to term something equal.”

7. I asked Radakovich if he felt any remorse for the remaining schools in the Big East. He said his focus was on the ACC and welcoming the new members and that the remaining schools have opportunities. “They’re just different opportunities than maybe a week or so.”

8. Tech has distributed between 45,000 and 46,000 tickets for the UNC game, he said, so evidently some freebies in there. “We are trying every method” to sell tickets, he said. “We have room for a few more folks on the wagon.” He was pretty eager to sell tickets. He even mentioned the ticket office phone number. (1-888-832-4849, if you’re wondering.)

9. Radakovich grew up in western Pennsylvania, about 20 miles north of Pittsburgh, and was a Pitt fan.

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Chris

September 20th, 2011
2:18 pm

To heck with the pod system. Have a North and South division! It’s that simple.

gt4ever

September 20th, 2011
2:23 pm

Just win games, and the stadium will fill….

juvenal

September 20th, 2011
2:43 pm

economy has a lot to do with discretionary spending…….no lib arts types from grinnell or anywhere else are going to help this country out of it’s downhill slide……

Tech fans need to step up

September 20th, 2011
2:50 pm

Syracuse and Pitt are good adds for both basketball and football. Rutgers and UCONN…not so much.

Marine Jacket

September 20th, 2011
2:52 pm

@Chris

Not going to happen. Tech, FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, NC State in one division. With VT alone in the other side.

Go Jackets!!!

Dallas Jacket

September 20th, 2011
2:54 pm

Is Texas officially off the radar map for the ACC?

wes

September 20th, 2011
3:06 pm

Add UCONN then that forces Notre Dame’s hand into joining the ACC.

UCONN and Notre Dame are my two guesses.

Ken Sugiura

September 20th, 2011
3:17 pm

I’m not speaking from knowledge, but given that John Swofford called equal revenue sharing “sacred,” it’s hard to imagine Texas and its network finding a home in the ACC, even if Texas were willing to share some of the pie.

BigTimeTechFan

September 20th, 2011
3:38 pm

PODS:
1. Confederate: GT, Miami, FSU, Clemson
2. Carolina: UNC, NC State, Duke, Wake
3. Coastal: Maryland, Pitt, UVA, Va Tech
4. Atlantic: Syracuse, BC, Penn St, Notre Dame

Year 1
1 and 2 = Div 1
3 and 4 = Div 2
Year 2
1 and 3 = Div 1
2 and 4 = Div 2
Year 3
1 and 4 = Div 1
2 and 3 = Div 2

play all team in you div = 7 games
Then have 2 games ramdom scheduled out of division = 9 games

Then add 1 week for:
ACC verse SEC Week All 16 teams play all 16 teams in SEC the last week of season = 10 games
ACC verse B1G Week All 16 teams play all 16 teams in B1G the 1st week of season = 11 games

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
3:42 pm

Political correctness will never allow a pod to be called “confederate.” Actually, I don’t think much of the name anyway, and I am far from being politically correct.

Jacket Man

September 20th, 2011
3:46 pm

According to multiple sources, Notre Dame IS speaking with the ACC about becoming a full member and the only detail to be worked out is how to handle their TV contract with NBC. Since they have the rights to Notre Dame’s home games for several more years, but not any away games, some issues will have to be resolved, but they aren’t insurmountable.

With the potential of Notre Dame coming on board, there is also indication that Penn State may also be interested in now joining the ACC as they had originally expressed interest before joining the BIG 10, but opted to go the other route because they thought there was better “exposure” for their program. Penn State stated at that time that if the ACC hadn’t been just a mid-Atlantic and southeastern conference, they would have joined the ACC at that time. Now that the entire Atlantic seaboard is covered, and the possibility of Notre Dame joining, Penn State may revisit their initial interest in joining the conference.

This is precisely why UCONN and Rutgers haven’t already been accepted to join the ACC as of yet. They are waiting to see if these two schools are interested. If not, or if one is and the other isn’t, then the other school, or schools, will get their acceptance.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
3:51 pm

Jacket Man, I have heard pretty much the same thing, although I don’t know how substantiated any of those reports are. I DO agree though that since only 2 schools have been added so far, Swofford is apparently weighing several options. I for one have no interest at all in Rutgers. UConn is a maybe in my book, but only because of basketball; I think what we really need are two more good football programs.

PerimeterCenterJacket

September 20th, 2011
3:52 pm

Ken, if I have to read anymore homer-ism for your dearly beloved TBD Tigerbeareagles I’m going to rant in all caps. You wouldn’t want that, now would you? You and TBD are on notice…see you on the field in 2016.

Chris

September 20th, 2011
3:52 pm

If ND and Penn State join the ACC, we would have one killer conference.

BigTimeTechFan

September 20th, 2011
3:54 pm

GT will play Georgia every SEC week
Clemson will play USC every SEC week
Florida will play FSU every SEC week
Notre Dame will play Mich every B1G week
Pitt will play Penn St every B1G week

or could stick with 7 game conf schedule then have a PAC-16, B1G, SEC week
NCAA football would be:
Week 1
ACC verses B1G
SEC verses PAC-16
Week 2
ACC verse PAC-16
SEC verse B1G
Week 3 thru 10
Conf play
Week 11
ACC verse SEC
B1G verse PAC16
Week 12
Conf Championship games
Break
Bowl Games
Jan 1st
Final 4 – All conf Champions play each other, seeded by who’s conf won the most games during conf weeks
Jan 8th
Championship Game

no polls ever come into play, except for bowl games that are not apart of final four

Buzz Man

September 20th, 2011
3:57 pm

@ Chris…totally agree. The ACC would be strong from both a basketball AND football perspective. Hope it happens!

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
3:57 pm

BigTime, those would be some killer schedules…..and I mean that literally. I can’t imagine any team from any conference playing games like that every single week. But it sure would be a helluva lot of fun for the fans.

PerimeterCenterJacket

September 20th, 2011
3:57 pm

Jacket Man, Penn State OR Notre Dame would be a coup for the ACC. If it happens I’ll remember I heard it here first (well, about ND…I’d heard we want the entire state of Pennsylvania because PSU draws a jillion eyes to TV sets all over the country). Big “IF” in my mind, but I’d love it. I really really do not want Rutgers. At least UConn brings good basketball into the mix. But Rutgers academically is unimpressive and all its sports are just…not good.

BigTimeTechFan

September 20th, 2011
3:59 pm

that would be sweet, 1st week of the year you would have games like:
ACC verses B1G
SEC verses PAC-16

UGA vs USC
Alabama vs Stanford
GT vs Wisc
Va Tech vs Ohio St
ND vs Mich

MassDawg

September 20th, 2011
3:59 pm

College Athletics are nothing more than minor league sports for football and basketball. I think the college athletes should be able to leave for the pro leagues any time they want. You think the presidents and the alumni have the athletes best interests in mind.

BigTimeTechFan

September 20th, 2011
4:01 pm

Supersize, I’m with you, would be fun to watch
plus no polls impact National title

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
4:05 pm

The Big Ten would probably never go along with it. They have always been a step behind everybody else in doing the right thing.

BigTimeTechFan

September 20th, 2011
4:12 pm

Supersize, one major negitive is it would kill programs that are not in those conferences, teams like Boise St would never get shot at UGA, or a Baylor would not get to play Texas. I’m not for that, I kind of like watching the smaller schools get there shot at the big boys, it’s good for those schools

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
4:13 pm

Big Time, you are right. I don’t know for sure if that’s actually the direction things are heading, but if so it would change the game of college football forever, and that’s NOT a good thing IMHO.

Born2Buzz

September 20th, 2011
4:16 pm

MassDawg, the presidents maybe, the alumni, no.

But this is just the start of a huge shift in the world of collegiate sports. The ncaa is on the verge of being told to go F themselves, first in regards to football, and then for everything, probably just for the 64 schools that will make up the 4 super conferences. The university presidents will form a separate association that will dictate the rules and regulations, and you can be sure that paying the players will be a part of the game plan.

GT Alum

September 20th, 2011
4:17 pm

BTTF -

That confederate pod still seems pretty brutal from a football perspective. I thought part of the idea of the pods was to balance the strength of the league. If we add ND and Penn St, why wouldn’t we do N and S divisions?

North – Pitt, Penn St, ND, BC, UVA, VT, MD and ‘Cuse
South – GT, FSU, Miami, Clemson and the NC teams

Seems pretty balanced to me.

Born2Buzz

September 20th, 2011
4:20 pm

Supersize and Big Time, it’s going to be different for sure. It might actually be better.

I see bowls still being in the picture for the teams that don’t make the final 4, and the little schools not in the Big 4/64 will get their shots then. Maybe.

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
4:23 pm

I would like to see one or two games by the Big 4/64 schools be against some of those remaining schools. But I guess that might defeat the purpose of the whole setup. Plus, what happens WHEN one of those remaining schools beats one of the the Big 4/64, and you know that WOULD happen.

Somebody

September 20th, 2011
4:31 pm

Old Division: Clemson, Duke, Tech, Maryland, UNC, NCSU, Virginia, Wake
New Division: Any school added since 1992

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
4:37 pm

Somebody, I don’t like that one at all. The Old Division would continue to have more uninteresting teams than interesting ones.

yeller bug

September 20th, 2011
4:48 pm

Perhaps the 4 Champions from the 4 16-team super conferences and 4 at large bids for an 8 team play-off. At large could include a super conference team. Gives everybody a shot and let’s the computers and sportswriters still participate for half the field.

jacket

September 20th, 2011
4:52 pm

Somebody please explain how “B1G” stands for the Big Ten?

Gordon

September 20th, 2011
5:03 pm

The negative to North/South is that you don’t get to see the North teams enough, even if you went to 9 games and no permanent cross-division opponents. ND (and every other North team) would only be here once every 8 years. With one plan I’ve seen for a pod system, you could get each team here every 6 years.

Outside Observer

September 20th, 2011
5:07 pm

I think best case scenario for the ACC expansion would be Penn State and Notre Dame, with UConn stepping in if one of those two falls out. Worst case, we somehow end up with Rutgers who is an average football team with a below average basketball team. Pass. I think there are clearly some interesting events upcoming. As Dan mentioned, these moves have been months, if not years in planning. Texas made the first move with their network. A&M countered with leaving the Big 12. Then the ACC grabbed two good schools. Who will be the next to move? UT, TT, OK, OKST to Pac 12/16? SEC grabbing Mizzou/Kansas/TCU/Boise (i kid on the last one). ACC gets their pick of interested schools, do they grab someone and get settled before the pandemonium starts? Should be interesting to watch…

fuzzybee78

September 20th, 2011
5:09 pm

Jacketman at 3:46 has it nailed. I checked on the PSU blogs and the fans only have interest if ND is coming to the ACC. Then they warm up to the idea and they like renewing the Cuse and Pitt rivalry.

The final 2 spots are increasing in value. Adding ND and PSU is awesome on every front.

fuzzybee78

September 20th, 2011
5:14 pm

Outside, I agree with on the other schools in play. ND is the big domino and could bring PSU with them.

jarvis

September 20th, 2011
5:19 pm

TCU can’t buy relevance on the big stage. I kind of feel for them.

T3

September 20th, 2011
5:21 pm

Slive is panicking !!!!!!!

ROTFLMAO

GT GRAD

September 20th, 2011
5:22 pm

The SEC should be concerned if the ACC adds ND & Penn State…………The ACC would most definitely be the obvious #1 conference in Football, Basketball & Baseball; especially if the SEC adds Texas A&M, West Virginia, and two other schools who “missed the boat” like Louisville, UCF, South Florida, Missouri, etc. The combination of the SEC weak sisters (Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Miss State, Arkansas…….you could make a case that UGA & Tennessee have dropped down to weak sister status as well) and these new schools would REALLY have a detrimental affect on the SEC Football power status. HA HA

All of this SEC babble about FSU, Clemson and VT going to the SEC is pure hogwash!

If Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State & Texas Tech bolt for the PAC-16………WOW……….the SEC might even drop to #3 in overall conference Football Power Rankings!

How wonderful would college football be IF the SEC fans were not so obnoxious and arrogant? We might know in 2-3 years……..I for one would like to see it.

Ramblnwrek

September 20th, 2011
6:02 pm

@ GT GRAD: Agreed. I dont think anyone is leaving the ACC. While we all have pride and passion in our individual school. We are not “light the torches and get the pitch forks” crazy like the SEC is. Example: Find any blog for the Ol’ Miss – Vandy game last weekend. I think they are on suicide watch.

The move was preemptive, and the best thing to do. Right and wrong, and who is better in what will always be debated. Though I am highly skeptical on ND. They hold football independence very near and dear to their heart so I dont think they will give it up lightly.

Stephen CC

September 20th, 2011
6:18 pm

GT GRAD, you meant “effect,” not “affect.”

Tech Guy

September 20th, 2011
6:19 pm

I would love to have ND and Penn St in the ACC. Tech would have an awesome schedule.

Delbert D.

September 20th, 2011
6:22 pm

Top 10 TV markets for college football

New York – 2.91 million 14% of total population
Atlanta – 2.63 million 41%
Los Angeles – 2.58 million 17%
Dallas-Ft. Worth – 1.89 million 27%
Chicago – 1.76 million 19%
Birmingham – 1.70 million 85%
Philadelphia – 1.65 million 20%
Houston 1.64- million 28%
Tampa-St. Pete – 1.43 million 30%
Detroit – 1.33 million 26%

Source NYTimes-The Geography of college Football 9/19/2011

Worm

September 20th, 2011
6:22 pm

ACC looks like a basketball and lacrosse conference..Sold out for TV..

Delbert D.

September 20th, 2011
6:40 pm

Most popular college football teams in the NYC TV market

School – Fans – Mkt share – Population Share
Rutgers – 607,157 – 20.9% – 3.0%
Notre Dame – 266,935 – 9.2% – 1.3%
Penn St. – 186,410 – 6.45 – 0.9%
UConn – 150,150 – 5.2% – 0.7%
Michigan – 144,231 – 5.0% 0.7%
Syracuse – 133,900 – 4.6% – 0.7%
Miami – 77,497 – 2.7% – 0.4%
Army – 75,345 – 2.6% – 0.4%
Ohio St. 64,581 – 2.2% – 0.3%
Boston Coll. 61,042 – 2.1% – 0.3%

Source NYTimes-The Geography of college Football 9/19/2011

Delbert D.

September 20th, 2011
6:50 pm

10 most popular college football teams – national

Rank – School – Conference – Fans
1 – Ohio St. – Big Ten – 3,167,263
2 – Michigan – Big Ten – 2,921,066
3 – Penn St. – Big Ten – 2,642,275
4 – Notre Dame – Indep – 2,262,738
5 – Texas – Big 12 – 2,250,310
6 – Texas A&M – Big 12 – 2,030,188
7 – Auburn – SEC – 1,900.389
8 – Alabama – SEC – 1,879,881
9 – Florida – SEC – 1,811,922
10- Clemson – ACC – 1,761,162

Source NYTimes-The Geography of college Football 9/19/2011

Supersize that order, mutt

September 20th, 2011
7:00 pm

But I thought the mutts were popular. The ones who post on here sure think they are. I guess this confirms that they are irrelevant.

JACKETfan12

September 20th, 2011
7:04 pm

Aside from conference expansion shennanigans, I would hope that we can fill up the stadium this Saturday. If Tech has distributed 45,000 tickets thats a decent number, but more like 50,000ish would be nice. Its pitiful that we have to beg people to show up. Tech kicked the crap out of Kansas (even though its Kansas, its still a Big 12 school) and this is arguably the best Tech team that Johnson has had yet. I am still cautious to say this until I see how we look against UNC, but we sure have put up some jaw-dropping numbers. Thus said, I do not know why people are not anxious to get in the stadium Saturday. I sure am.

Delbert D.

September 20th, 2011
7:06 pm

Supesize – Thanks for reading. I was hoping that someone would notice, after all the effort I expended to compile this stuff out of a mostly boring article.

GDBurdell

September 20th, 2011
8:03 pm

You guys are leaving out teks chance to join the conference USA leage. You’re little fantasy is just about to get shattered nerds, only a couple more days