Fogler’s history of helping find coaches
Eddie Fogler, who led three different teams to the NCAA tournament, is assisting Georgia Tech athletic director Dan Radakovich in his search for the team’s next basketball coach. Radakovich decided not to retain Paul Hewitt after 11 seasons.
This isn’t Fogler’s first go-round helping schools find a new leader. So, how has he done? First, it must be noted that Fogler just serves in an advisory capacity. He doesn’t make the hire. Obviously he has no influence on the team’s success beyond helping the search committee.
He has advised at least five schools: Auburn, Kansas State, Illinois-Chicago, South Carolina and Tennessee. He’s also assisting Towson in its current search.
Here’s what has happened:
School…..New Coach……Record at New School.
Auburn……..Tony Barbee, formerly at UTEP……11-20.
There were some that said Barbee should have gotten consideration for SEC coach of the year, considering the mess he inherited.
Illinois-Chicago………….Howard Moore, former assistant at Wisconsin……….7-24.
Indiana……………………..Tom Crean……………………..28-66 in three seasons, including an 8-46 mark in the Big Ten. Not good.
Kansas State………….Frank Martin, an assistant on staff……… 94-42.
The Wildcats haven’t regretted this hire.
South Carolina………….Darrin Horn, formerly at Western Kentucky…………… 50-42.
After a great start (21-10), Horn hasn’t had a winning record in the past two seasons (29-32).
Tennessee State……….John Cooper, formerly an assistant at Auburn……………….. 23-39.
UNC-Wilmington………..Buzz Peterson……………………………………13-17, 7-11.
A little more on Fogler:
He played for Dean Smith at North Carolina, where he later became an assistant coach and helped to recruit Michael Jordan.
He became a head coch at Wichita State, where he went 61-32 from 1986-89
He accepted the job at Vanderbilt, going 81-48 from 1989-92, including an NIT championship, SEC championship and Sweet 16 appearance in the NCAA tournament.
He accepted the job at South Carolina, but didn’t have the same success. He went 123-117 with two NCAA tournament appearances.
If I find more examples, I’ll add them to the chart.
– Doug Roberson, AJC
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Dollar Bill
March 17th, 2011
11:40 am
Ouch!
Dumbo
March 17th, 2011
11:49 am
Dang, couldn’t the Rad find someone who’s had a little better luck than old Foggy?
SO HE'S 50/50
March 17th, 2011
11:52 am
Why not just flip a coin between Mooney and Mack?
Gordon
March 17th, 2011
11:53 am
This doesn’t make me feel a whole lot better.
Gordon
March 17th, 2011
11:54 am
1. Grant
2. Marshall
3. Mooney
GT45
March 17th, 2011
11:54 am
AIN’T GOT TO GO FAR: NOODLES!
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
11:56 am
Guys, I’m not sure I would used the coaches’ records as a reflection of Fogler’s talent at evaluating coaches. Too many variables.
Chaos, like me.
March 17th, 2011
12:04 pm
Thank goodness! A new blog to mull over and respond to. Thank you, Doug.
Chaos, like me.
March 17th, 2011
12:04 pm
Mooney. Marshall. Stallings. Plan B (or actually “D”).
Chaos, like me.
March 17th, 2011
12:08 pm
Not very impressive credentials for Fogler as an advisor. Radakovich must have known him pretty well at South Carolina. I trust DRad’s judgment more than Fogler’s, but the AD can’t be everywhere at once.
Chaos, like me.
March 17th, 2011
12:10 pm
If we don’t hear something by late Monday, I will be surprised. Not shocked, but surprised. Of the realistic prospects, only Marshall’s team (Wichita St.) should still be playing by then.
Chaos, like me.
March 17th, 2011
12:11 pm
OK, I’ll stop talking to myself. See you later.
DRad Presser at 3 p.m.!
March 17th, 2011
12:14 pm
Not really. Just wishful thinking.
Phil mcgroin
March 17th, 2011
12:15 pm
Grant is not under consideration for the GT job anymore guys. He is OFF the list. Mooney looks like the next GT coach.
StraightJacket
March 17th, 2011
12:18 pm
Fogler’s value is in being a third-party through whom potential candidates and their agents can communicate via “back channels” to question the various criteria of the GT job and what the compensation and terms might be. Being discreet is key.
Whether Fogler’s “recommendations” are actually hired is immaterial and not a testament to his purpose. Tech had BETTER do its OWN interviewing of candidates, and the success or failure of the hire is on DRAD; not Fogler.
One more thing: DRAD can do everything exactly right, get the best candidate for GT, and STILL have it “not work out”. Nevertheless, I’m confident that his process is good, and that he’ll get the best coach he can within the resources and information he’ll have at the time a decision is required.
sidewalk74
March 17th, 2011
12:20 pm
CRAIG NEAL ! Don’t even interview anyone else.
Bobby Brown
March 17th, 2011
12:25 pm
Craig Neal has a great track record. Can he recruit??? If he can, he is the man for the job.
GT Baby!
March 17th, 2011
12:43 pm
I agree with Gordon and Chaos plus……..My list: Mooney, Marshall, Brad Stevens, Brian Gregory and Cuonzo Martin. Wanted Grant but heard he was out?
Butler & Old D is coming on now Direct-TV 246
Louisville @1:40 on TBS 247
Newtonite
March 17th, 2011
12:47 pm
Let’s pull for New Mexico to lose early in the NIT, so DRAD can formalize the hiring of Craig Neal.
JLC
March 17th, 2011
12:48 pm
Do not hire Mooney!! I don’t care what his record is. The Princeton style offense will not put butts in the seats!
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
1:06 pm
Butler plays great D stop ODU 4 min without scoring. Steven would be good for GT.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
1:09 pm
JLC…he doesn’t run a Princeton style of offense. The offense he runs is more up-tempo. It does have elements of back-screens, etc.
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
1:14 pm
He also lets guards free lance ……..
Florida jacket
March 17th, 2011
1:18 pm
How about Wayne Tinkle of the University of Montana, they had a down year this year only 23 wins. But does anybody remember what they’ve done in the NCAA tournament recently?
Jacket Grad
March 17th, 2011
1:19 pm
Look at Rick Stansbury
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
1:31 pm
Doug do you have any inside (contacts) info like Dadgum has, etc. If so whats the #1 choice as of now.
T3
March 17th, 2011
1:43 pm
I’ll stick with PLAN “D” as in D-RAD.
I have 100% confidence that D-RAD will make the right hire.
D-RAD doesnt suffer fools.
His 1st GT coaching hire is all the proof you need.
..
GT Dude
March 17th, 2011
1:45 pm
Doug if your going to follow up your original post with with this statement
“Guys, I’m not sure I would used the coaches’ records as a reflection of Fogler’s talent at evaluating coaches. Too many variables.”
Why post the records in the first place?
Fogler is just a highly paid headhunter
T3
March 17th, 2011
1:47 pm
I’ll again add: No one is talking about the #1 Candidate.
A hire of this #1 Candidate would be a “coup” of HISTORIC proportions.
We wait.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
1:55 pm
GT Dude: context mostly. I figured if I didn’t, and all the coaches were undefeated, some folks might say, “Doug, why didn’t you post the records?”
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
Without knowing who Dadgum is or his sources, I couldn’t say. I don’t know who Tech’s No. 1 choice is. I know who I would go after, but what do I know?
jomo
March 17th, 2011
2:04 pm
BOBBY CREMINS can still COACH…..bring him back NOW !!!!!!!!
Dollar Bill
March 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
And on the outside moving up fast….. Donnie Tyndall
Morehead State loookin’ good.
And Doug thanks for setting the Mooney Princeton Offense junk. They put 90 on Wake and could have scored 110 if they wanted to.
mario
March 17th, 2011
2:30 pm
there are really only 3 candidates: Bobby Cremins, Tubby Smith and Craig Neal…..the ideal scenario would be Bobby or Tubby and have Neal as an assistant
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
2:33 pm
Thanks Doug..I respect your opinion.
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
2:36 pm
Mario..3 strikes you out!
Tubby hell no! The other two will never happen. Rads will get his own man.
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
2:38 pm
Doug who would you go after? Maybe you know more than you let on.
GIVE ME A BREAK
March 17th, 2011
2:44 pm
Tubby would bring no excitement. Neal knows what GT needs and wants. With the right assistants, he would brings the fans in. Price and Dennis Scott would be great to see on the bench with Neal.
JM
March 17th, 2011
2:48 pm
It’s always good to get an outsiders opinion on important matters.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
2:57 pm
Who would I go after? Me, of course. I ruled when I assisted my son’s 5-year-old team.
Dollar Bill
March 17th, 2011
3:10 pm
Billy Gillispie rumored to be going to Texas Tech.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
I think my philosophy of “Hey, do your best and you’ll get juice boxes after the game” and “let’s try not to have four of you within a foot of the guy with the ball” would work well in the ACC.
Tony Shumpert
March 17th, 2011
3:16 pm
Doug, assuming Iman is not a top 10 pick in this years draft and stays in school, what do you think the next coach needs to do to showcase Imans skills?
ormewood
March 17th, 2011
3:19 pm
Fogler is an outstanding basketball mind. While on Dean Smith’s UNC staff, it was he, and not Roy Williams, that was thought to be the coach with the best future. He did a good job at all three places where he was the head man. I think he knows a lot of coaches and is well-regarded in the coaching community.
Geori
March 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
Fogler sucks
Dollar Bill
March 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Hmmmmmm Morehead State lookin’ reeeeellly goooood!!!
Mr. Tyndall – I dont know his situation up there but the team looks like it is really well coached.
Cameron
March 17th, 2011
3:55 pm
Seriously Doug, who would you pick if you were the A.D.?
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
3:55 pm
I thought Iman showed tremendous improvement this year but there’s no way he’s a top-10 pick. He’s not even listed in the first two rounds of many mock drafts. That surprises me, actually.
What does the next coach need to do? He needs to find someone to take the scoring pressure off Shumpert. He can be a good shooter, but not when he has to take so many shots, as he did this year. He didn’t get chances to beat people off the dribble this year, either. Another shooter would allow him to try and showcase that skill. He’s so much bigger than other point guards, he can also post up. He did some of that this year, but not a lot.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
Cameron, I don’t know who I would pick. There are so many factors.
Chris Mooney seems like he would be a strong candidate, but is he going to energize the fan base? How many of you have heard of him before this year?
This is arguably the biggest hire Radakovich has had to make. Gailey was consistently winning as the football coach, but Radakovich saw the fan base wanted more. The basketball team hasn’t had that consistency and it’s got a new arena that will soon be on the way. It’s a $45 million hire.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
Who would you hire?
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
4:03 pm
If Shumpert has another year similar to this one, with a bit more consistency on defense and a slightly improved shooting percentage, I think he will be a first-round pick in 2012
StingerSplash
March 17th, 2011
4:11 pm
Not in the Gregg Marshall camp. Have heard quite a few intimations that he is quite, to put it mildly, a jerk. And when he was at Winthrop and winning, there were several big time openings in the Carolinas and he never got a sniff. Sounds like a few people knew something that wasn’t real good.
Tony Shumpert
March 17th, 2011
4:18 pm
Thanks Doug. I appreciate your unbiased approach. Do you ever make it up to the Chicago area?
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
4:21 pm
I wish. I love the city.
T3
March 17th, 2011
4:24 pm
Gailey SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-CKED
If ANYONE else had been AD other than Dave Braine-less (aka Dave Spine-less)..
1. Gailey would have NEVER been hired.
2. Or, Gailey would have been DESERVEDLY fired after his 3rd year.
Anyone else the common thread between Braine’s hire of Galiey and Hewitt??
Both Gailey and Hewitt were:
1. Complacent
2. Arrogant to fans
3. Arrogant to media
4. Had the audacity to try to defend a track record, that couldnt be defended.
However, the decisions to hire Gailey and Hewitt were not nearly as bad as the
Ultra-Bad decision to hire…Dave (!@#$%^&*) Braine.
Cameron
March 17th, 2011
4:25 pm
At first, I had no idea, part of me felt last year they should have went after Brad Stevens, but I do realize they are strapped for cash due to the buyout. The more I read and the more think about it, I truly believe Craig Neal is the best choice. He cleary wants the job, Steve Aldord gave him a great reference, and I think he has plenty of experience, that the time is now for his shot as a head coach.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
Radakovich has said the buyout won’t affect the next coach’s salary.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
Meanwhile two of the rumored candidates just tipped off against each other: Stallings vs. Mooney.
GT
March 17th, 2011
5:12 pm
I like Eddie Fogler helping Tech. He is a Carolina alum and he was at Vandy, they were successful. He went to South Carolina probably thinking of South Carolina as the old ACC school he played, which were world beaters. Once South Carolina joined the SEC basketball took a back seat though Eddie did a good job there too for what he was working with. North Carolina alums seem to do pretty good as coaches. Roy came from there, Brown, they know good coaching and they know ACC atmosphere. Who they hire is any one’s guess but they have at least one a ACC type looking.
GTACWORTH
March 17th, 2011
5:36 pm
Hey Doug,
What is your insight on Brad Stevens? I think he would be a great hire. Would he come if asked?
Supersize that order, mutt
March 17th, 2011
5:36 pm
After hearing too many rumors that Mark Price was going to be hired, I fired off an email to DRad, stating my case against Price as head coach and my concern that some rich alum might be calling the shots. Within an hour, I got the following response —-
“Thank you (deleted my name here) for the note…. couple of facts…. I know they may hurt the romance of the rumor but they are facts….
1) there is no influential booster.or rich alum influencing the decision…
2) I am not for or against hiring Tech folks…
3) I am with you on the fact that we need to be successful… The process of finding a coach will I hope clearly identify that person….whomever he is !!
Thanks
Dan Radakovich
Director of Athletics
Georgia Tech”
J W
March 17th, 2011
5:39 pm
My vote, if I had one: Craig Neal. (As much as I love and respect Mark Price and can see why lot of people would hire him as a thank you for what he has done, I just did not see a progression from him that indicated he wanted to be a head coach. He’s a fine human being, family man, GT family member and does not have to prove himself to anyone to be happy.) Coach Neal has the smarts to surround himself with good poeple and command respect based on his career steps.
Otherwise, I’d be content with Mooney, or Stevens, or Gregory.
Dollar Bill
March 17th, 2011
5:54 pm
Trending up: Donnie Tyndall. Well coached team. Seemed to have fun playing.
In 2009 – Morehead State Donnie Tyndall $155,000 $27,500 $182,500 annual total income
Trending down; Chris Mooney. Team looks like they are bored at times or something. Maybe they will wake up in the 2nd half.
Doug Roberson
March 17th, 2011
5:55 pm
No idea on Stevens. I think he would a solid hire, but does he want to leave?
Hoopster
March 17th, 2011
6:05 pm
Grant is NOT out of the picture.
Paul in RDU
March 17th, 2011
6:14 pm
Looks to me as if RIchmond is giving Vandy everything they can handle
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
6:21 pm
Dollar Bill…you must be watching some other game. Rich is winning with 3:00 to go!
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
6:23 pm
Hope Grant get job…next Brad Stevens are Mooney……don’t want no home boy…
Buzz
March 17th, 2011
6:26 pm
I min. to go Richmond up by 2 points
Buzz
March 17th, 2011
6:28 pm
18 sec Rich up by 3
Tellitlikeitis
March 17th, 2011
6:33 pm
Hot of the press…mystery candidate is Terry Bowden.
Dollar Bill
March 17th, 2011
6:35 pm
That was made at half time. Richmond is flying me out to their next game so I can motivate them at half time.
Another Ga fan lurking on here that cannot read or comprehend what they read?
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
6:41 pm
Mooney wins…. Both Teams played hard.
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
6:43 pm
Dollar store this no UGA fan.
GT Fan
March 17th, 2011
6:44 pm
They did wake up. Good day
Gold Dome
March 17th, 2011
7:27 pm
Whoever coaches the Richmond Spiders would be a terrific fit. Anyone just watch their game!!! AWESOME!!!
consider shaka smart
March 17th, 2011
7:44 pm
mooney, smart, marshall..i really like shaka smart..young guy who could bring a live a tech program in the dumps
blazer
March 17th, 2011
8:20 pm
Smart had VCU playing zone last night in the last minutes-Paul never knew what that was.
Had his coat off and was coaching the team-actually had team running plays!!
Looks like a good coach to me!
Buzz
March 17th, 2011
8:58 pm
Shaka Smart? No thanks. I think Neal will get the job, and Price will be added to the staff.
GT GRAD
March 17th, 2011
9:40 pm
Forget Fogler………just hire Mark Price as the head coach and Craig Neal as the assistant head coach!!
I attended GT between 85-90………..I am a HUGE fan of Mark Price as a basketball player and as a person. You simply cannot go wrong with an intelligent, hgh character person like Mark Price!
I am also impressed with Craig Neal as a player, person and he has proven to be a solid assistant coach.
These guys had HUGE success together at GT before. The combination as coaches could be STELLAR!
Virginian
March 17th, 2011
10:46 pm
Regarding Mooney and the Princeton offense, winning will put fans in the seats at the new Thriller Dome. Under Mooney, little old Richmond has gone 8-3 in its past 11 against major programs (Purdue, Vandy this year, Florida, Missouri and Mississippi State last year). Would you rather be undisciplined and inconsistent, or run a version of the Princeton offense, play intense defense and make the NCAA tourney?
No matter if Neal, Mooney, Grant or someone else, the fan base will have to be a little patient as the new coach implements his system. Some nice pieces are in place.
(Regarding Fogler – his 1998 third-seeded South Carolina team was shocked by… No. 14 Richmond and John Beilein)
Buzz
March 17th, 2011
10:47 pm
Hell no to Woodson.
RANDALL
March 17th, 2011
10:47 pm
Why is anyone not mentioning Mark Few of Gonzaga as a possible replacement for Hewitt. He has made the tourney every year and has no fewer than 23 wins in any season. He has also finished 1st in the conference every year but his first season which was a 2nd place finish.
10th Street Pundit
March 17th, 2011
11:11 pm
There is a reason why Radakovich is the AD, and all of the Tech fans, alums,
and former players are not.
He is a better decision maker
Mike Woodson ?? Excuse me while I go puke up my dinner.
There is a definite reason why a program like Duke is a consistent winner year after year.
All Tech fans (and pundits) need to STHU and let Radakovich do his job.
Dollar Bill
March 17th, 2011
11:27 pm
The anticipation of an announcement of our next coach was too much to take so I had to consult the all knowing Sister Doreen of Phenix City, AL
She read the tea leaves and told me this:
Tubby is still out there for Tech and NC State. Tennessee has dibs on Donnie Tyndall and will be firing Pearl. Shaka Smart will look at NC State but wants to go to a SEC school. NC State will be throwing a lot of $$ at Mooney and talking to Tubby.
Tommy Amaker has already been sniffing around for Tech job. Mooney has showed interest indirectly but will give NC State the nod because he was not Tech’s number 1 choice.
And the number 1 choice for Tech: Brad Stevens – AND – he will tell Tech NO and we will be screwed because we put all of our eggs in Steven’s basket.
I asked for my money back…. she laughed and told me for another 30$ she would tell me what Tech’s recruits would sign next year.
SC Boy
March 18th, 2011
8:07 am
The Horn hire will end up to be very good. Dave Odom left Horn nothing but Sam Muldrow and Devin Downey. He’s had to kick two very good Odom recruited players off the team. They were one of the youngest teams in America last year and it showed. He has two blue chippers coming in next year plus Murphy Holloway from Ol’ Miss. This hire will work out.
ga tech 92
March 18th, 2011
8:26 am
NOT Woodson. I was constantly frustrated with the player evaluation and style of play he had with the Hawks. Reminded me too much of Hewitt. “Long athletic guys”, but you trade superior lateral quickness when you get long. Little pure point guards break us down and cause open shots for their team. We don’t need another coach who drafts/recruits guys who could all arguably be forwards.
GT65
March 18th, 2011
8:51 am
Hated Woodson as Hawk Coach as was glad he was firedd. He is another Hewitt. Please for the love of Jesus “No” to Woodson !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GTVegas
March 18th, 2011
8:54 am
Few from Gonzaga would be an excellent choice, but I am not sure he would leave. Actually, I don’t think there is a chance in He!! that he would leave for GT. I sure would love to be proven wrong though.
Other than Few, Mooney would be good and I really like Neal, with help from Price and Scott. Too many cooks in the kitchen???
NYJacket
March 18th, 2011
9:06 am
This guys record is really suspect.
EKT
March 18th, 2011
9:51 am
Iman is a gifted player, always thinking on the court….fun to watch
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
10:00 am
Gailey was fired for one simple reason: zero wins in five chances vs Uga. He did have a few big wins but you have to beat the archrival at least once.
Doesn’t Drew need to find out where his wife is, Anderson, where his money is and Steppe, where his brain is?
Will any of those three buy season tickets?
If not, they should butt out.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
10:14 am
The new coach’s salary will not be affected?
With Gailey still getting paid until Jan 2012 and Hewitt just getting started, what will be affected is the amount we flush down the toilet each year that could be spent on something else.
Thanks to Dave Braine, we have millions going to people who no longer have to earn it.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
10:16 am
Trust me on this one.
Woodson will not be hired.
Buzz
March 18th, 2011
10:25 am
Thanks Jackets 2011. Hope you right.
Doug time for New Blog.
USC Jimi
March 18th, 2011
10:35 am
Eddie Fogler has a very keen basketball mind. His biggest drawback as a college head coach was his inability to deal with certain members of the press. He won an SEC championship at South Carolina. He was named national Coach of the Year at both Vanderbilt and South Carolina. The AD at South Carolina ran him off because he wouldn’t be a brown nose. He was building a really good program when he was let go.
GTFan
March 18th, 2011
11:55 am
Mooney on ESPN today was very interesting . Seems like he would be very good PR plus his coaching ability for GT. Something we need bad.
FullMetalJacket
March 18th, 2011
11:57 am
I don’t think Stevens is going anywhere there is a current opening. I literally think it would have to be a top 4 or 5 program to even tempt him. Butler has him financially set and locked up for a long time and even if the bottom fell out for him, he could coast for a decade on the good will he’s built up at Butler.
FullMetalJacket
March 18th, 2011
11:59 am
Hire Mooney. I could get behind most of the major candidates mentioned for the job: Marshall, Neal, Turgeon, Stallings, et al, as long as the next coach does not resemble Hewitt in coaching style or p.r. awareness.
FullMetalJacket
March 18th, 2011
12:02 pm
Unlike those who claim to have inside-stone-cold-lock information on the first choice, next coach, etc., I haven’t got a clue. I do think that Neal or Price (both of whom I like) are completely out of the mix. And I don’t believe the NC State opening impacts our search much at all. Two different programs looking for two different kinds of coaches. Both are quality positions, but State has the money and need to make a big splash.
Chaos, like me
March 18th, 2011
12:41 pm
It will be at least Monday before we here anything, I think. Most of the logical candidates are still coaching and will be through the weekend. Allowing a couple of days for formal contacts, interviews, offers, and negotiations (even if we have a “number one” prospect pencilled in), it could well be Wednesday or Thursday next week. If Richmond and others make a run, it could be a long wait.
Chaos, like me
March 18th, 2011
12:42 pm
Pardon me: “hear,” not “here.”
Chaos, like me
March 18th, 2011
12:43 pm
There’s no need to be in a hurry, of course, but it is frustrating as a fan.
FullMetalJacket
March 18th, 2011
12:48 pm
Yes, no need to hurry into a bad hire. While we won’t get in a bidding war with anyone anyway, it would be nice to lock in a coach as early as possible for recruiting, p.r., and clarity. We don’t want to negotiate with a Mooney or a Marshall after NC State has just overpaid a Miller or Barnes: it would likely indirectly cost us more even though they’re different men, different jobs.
Brother Doug, where art thou?
March 18th, 2011
12:49 pm
Any new rumblings, rumors, or insights, Doug?
tech86
March 18th, 2011
3:36 pm
At least Dollar Bill is understanding of a good coach who can develop players, look at Donnie Tyndall and stop with these other guys. We beat Richmond with our former coach, Tyndall and the Morehead State eagles upset Pitino and he was not going to settle for a tie. Know for a fact that this guy will take the job and stay a while if offered. If nothing else, give him an interview. He was great on Mike and Mike this morning. The guy can coach and graduate players, he won’t be long for Morehead State, forget about MArtin, Marshall, Stansbury, we need the intensity of this guy.
Stinger 2
March 18th, 2011
3:57 pm
There are some good posts on this blog. They are the ones who have said let DRad (assisted by Folger) handle the hiring of a new coach. GT will make its own decision without listening to the bloggers.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 18th, 2011
4:02 pm
I’m really tempted to email Drad again asking about the availability of Bruce Pearl. Sure, Pearl has some baggage, but it sounds like he is remorseful. Heck, just look how he completely turned around two programs! He worked miracles at UCLA and at Tennesee, and he can definitely do the same at Tech, with a much better recruiting base in Atlanta.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:30 pm
I suspect Pearl will have to take a step back before going forward to a good job.
I can’t see us hiring Pearl.
Only way Pearl gets the job is if the Tech job has fallen a lot more than any of us think.
Like Woodson, not going to happen.
I agree with trusting DRAD & Folger with the choice.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 18th, 2011
4:33 pm
I respectfully disagree Jackets2011. I think Drad will feel kind of desperate and will try to win at all cost. Say what you want about the guy, Bruce Pearl is an excellent basketball coach.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:38 pm
Point taken.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 18th, 2011
4:40 pm
Thanks Jackets2011. You seem like a good poster, and I appreciate your insight and knowledge.
-Super
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:50 pm
U as well.
WAsn’t sure I was coming back for football but who was I kiding.
Went for a run, Tech called, faked disinterest and then caved.
Made the salesguy earn his dough.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:57 pm
FSU has Singleton back.
I’m going to try and pull for them since a win will bring the conference more money.
Not sure I can.
GTFan
March 18th, 2011
8:10 pm
Just say no to Pearl…to much baggage.
Dollar Bill
March 18th, 2011
10:03 pm
Pearl gone. Actually this game was academic. Funny…. academics and UT. Ha!
Tyndall to UT. Mooney to NCSU. Tech to dance with Stevens and he says no -” I will stay with the one that brung me”. Sister Doreen upgraded to prophet status and I go back down to PhenixCcity and find out our recruits that will sign next year.
michael
March 18th, 2011
11:35 pm
TUBBY SMITH PlEASE.
Bill M.
March 19th, 2011
7:24 am
I know he’s young but the coach that I would look at is the Memphis Coach, Pastner??? He’s young (33)and his team plays hard and fast. They need a coach that can recruit and relate to the young players.
ormewood
March 19th, 2011
9:28 am
When did Pearl coach at UCLA? Don’t think so. He is anything but remorseful. Four days after shedding crocodile tears at a press conference where he fesses up, he commits yet another violation. Scumbag.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:19 am
As bad as Tech fans feel about the current state of their hoops program, NC State is in a much more desperate position. State relies far more heavily on basketball as its defining athletics program and needs to make a big splash with their next hire. Since their apparent first choice, Arizona’s Miller, may be untouchable, State may be dipping deeper into the same applicant pool as Tech. Namely, Richmond’s Mooney is likely on both schools’ short list, and the farther he goes in the NCAA tournament the more likely he is to end up at State. I don’t think Tech is in position to enter a bidding war with State for a hoops coach, and the State administration (AD and chancellor) have made it clear they are eager and willing to pay handsomely to rejuvenate their flagship sport. Mooney makes a bigger splash as the coach of an Elite Eight or even Final Four team, both goals within reach now that Richmond’s future opponents look less formidable than a few days ago.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:27 am
Bruce Pearl’s NCAA violations are rather minor compared to recent transgressions by Tressel and company. The right move for Tennessee is to fire AD Hamilton (completely incompetent) and let the next AD decide Pearl’s fate. All that said, Pearl’s deceiving the NCAA and then breaking the rules again right after apologizing is bad and puts UT in a vulnerable situation. The NCAA should demand that Hamilton–the man who hired Kiffin and Pearl’s boss–be either sanctioned or fired, but then the suits generally stick together. UT will never get the SMU treatment, but they are flirting with constant scrutiny by the hypocritical NCAA.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:32 am
Whoever hires Pearl next is inviting the NCAA to scrutinize their athletics program. I can’t see him going to another high-major school for his next stop, though I have no doubt he will be in the final four soon with somebody.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:34 am
For Ga. Tech: I vote Mooney. Marshall. Neal. –in that order.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
11:18 am
Is Georgia Tech ready for Shaka Smart’s “havoc” style of play? His stock and his profile are rising even as we speak, and Radakovich seems to be leaning towards an up-and-comer. Can’t imagine NCSU being interested in him as he is not as established as Mooney and others, so he may fall to Tech.
MaChelle Joseph: Five Straight NCAA's
March 19th, 2011
11:25 am
We’d be lucky if our next men’s coach is half as good as our women’s coach. I don’t watch women’s hoops myself, but congrats to the Lady Jackets and their coach.
GTFan
March 19th, 2011
11:30 am
Coach Joseph is 1st class..You should watch today its should be good.
O-men
March 19th, 2011
11:39 am
Games @ 11:20 PM on dir-tv 733 damn late night show.
Mooney & Grant my top picks for GT’s Coach.
HERE YOU GO Priceless
March 19th, 2011
12:03 pm
COLIN COWHERD ON ESPN RADIO FRIDAY PRAISING MARK PRICE …WHY DO YOU BLIND GT PEOPLE CANNOT SEE WHAT OTHERS CAN IN PRICE? IT IS PITIFUL.
AMONG OTHER THINGS, COWHERD SAID PRICE WAS THE MOST TALENTED, SMART AND DISCIPLINED POINT GUARD EVER TO PLAY THE GAME. AND WE ALL KNOW ABOUT PRICE’S CHARACTER BUT OH NO, IT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO YOU PEOPLE. YET YOU ALL WANT “MARSHALL” TO COACH GT. YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW HIM. I KNEW HIM AT WINTHROP AND THAT IS WHERE HE BELONGS. SOME OF THESE COACHES ARE NOT EVEN FIT TO CARRY PRICES’ SHOES AND YOU GT PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND TO THAT FACT.
SO WHAT LOWE DID NOT WORK OUT AT NC STATE, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PRICE? PRICE IS NOT SIDNEY LOWE. YOU ALL OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED
O-men
March 19th, 2011
1:41 pm
Just in…Lady Jackets win in 1st round and moving on. Congrad to Team & Coach Joseph
sorry about wrong time@11:39
GTAlumforSalley
March 19th, 2011
2:15 pm
How about John Salley? Salley’s engaging personality, professional experience, and GT performance (including graduation) makes for a pretty attractive resume. In addition to having some credibility with recruits, I believe it would actually be “fun” to return to Alexander – something I didn’t do this past season although I am a 20+ year season ticket holder.
ga tech 92
March 19th, 2011
3:35 pm
HERE YOU GO Priceless – What are you talking about? I’ve seen a lot of posters, including me, say good things about Price.
barbie
March 19th, 2011
3:58 pm
NICE ROAD WIN AT CLEVELAND STATE FOR BOBBY CREMINS AND C OF C TODAY, WILL PLAYE WINNER OF VT/WITCHITA STATE
Dadgum......
March 19th, 2011
5:26 pm
My sources are simply friends well connected in the GT community. They may not be better than someone elses sources. I know them to be reliable and credible and where pertinent info is divulged I will pass along what I know.
Again I have been told that no former GT players or coaches are on the short list. Chris Mooney of Richmond is still the runaway frontrunner. Grant is still in play but appears a long shot. Living in Richmond I can assure you nobody connected with UR is expecting Mooney back. He may not end up at GT but he is going somewhere.
Dollar Bill
March 19th, 2011
6:20 pm
NCSU if Debbie Yow (ster) cannot get Barnes or Turgeon – she WILL get Mooney. Why Mooney would go to Cow College and play third fiddle to UNC and Duke? Come to Tech and you can play second fiddle to Duke. We seem to at least have a fighting chance with UNC.
GTFan
March 19th, 2011
6:59 pm
Thanks Dadgum…..Hope it is Mooney.
Doug does anyone cover the Lady Jackets?
Jackets 2011
March 19th, 2011
7:16 pm
If we hire the Richmond coach, I can tape the games and use them instead of sleeping pills.
Jackets 2011
March 19th, 2011
7:30 pm
Price or Neal would reenergize the fan base, I’ll grant you that.
I don’t think Supersize or myself should be ashamed for questioning giving the job to an ex-player and asking whether any candidate is qualified.
Now either of the two may be just what we need to get the fans back.
But I went to games during the Curry years and there was one exciting year out of seven just to get dumped after we had trained him.
But if DRAD decides on Price or Neal, I’m fine with it.
I just want him to give it sufficent thought and not just go along with it because someone like Bobby Dodd is pushing the idea on him.
Some have said that is what happened to Rice on the Curry hire.
Jackets 2011
March 19th, 2011
7:34 pm
@Dollar Bill
We do have to give Hewitt credit for that.
During his years, we played our best games vs UNC.
Jacket Insight
March 22nd, 2011
8:09 pm
Gregg Marshall is the perfect guy for this job at Tech. Proven winner who demands: 1) defense; 2) good passing; 3) proficient foul shooting; 4) players must be gentlemen. Great guy with a nice family. Proven ability that we need.