Fogler’s history of helping find coaches
Eddie Fogler, who led three different teams to the NCAA tournament, is assisting Georgia Tech athletic director Dan Radakovich in his search for the team’s next basketball coach. Radakovich decided not to retain Paul Hewitt after 11 seasons.
This isn’t Fogler’s first go-round helping schools find a new leader. So, how has he done? First, it must be noted that Fogler just serves in an advisory capacity. He doesn’t make the hire. Obviously he has no influence on the team’s success beyond helping the search committee.
He has advised at least five schools: Auburn, Kansas State, Illinois-Chicago, South Carolina and Tennessee. He’s also assisting Towson in its current search.
Here’s what has happened:
School…..New Coach……Record at New School.
Auburn……..Tony Barbee, formerly at UTEP……11-20.
There were some that said Barbee should have gotten consideration for SEC coach of the year, considering the mess he inherited.
Illinois-Chicago………….Howard Moore, former assistant at Wisconsin……….7-24.
Indiana……………………..Tom Crean……………………..28-66 in three seasons, including an 8-46 mark in the Big Ten. Not good.
Kansas State………….Frank Martin, an assistant on staff……… 94-42.
The Wildcats haven’t regretted this hire.
South Carolina………….Darrin Horn, formerly at Western Kentucky…………… 50-42.
After a great start (21-10), Horn hasn’t had a winning record in the past two seasons (29-32).
Tennessee State……….John Cooper, formerly an assistant at Auburn……………….. 23-39.
UNC-Wilmington………..Buzz Peterson……………………………………13-17, 7-11.
A little more on Fogler:
He played for Dean Smith at North Carolina, where he later became an assistant coach and helped to recruit Michael Jordan.
He became a head coch at Wichita State, where he went 61-32 from 1986-89
He accepted the job at Vanderbilt, going 81-48 from 1989-92, including an NIT championship, SEC championship and Sweet 16 appearance in the NCAA tournament.
He accepted the job at South Carolina, but didn’t have the same success. He went 123-117 with two NCAA tournament appearances.
If I find more examples, I’ll add them to the chart.
– Doug Roberson, AJC
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Chaos, like me
March 18th, 2011
12:41 pm
It will be at least Monday before we here anything, I think. Most of the logical candidates are still coaching and will be through the weekend. Allowing a couple of days for formal contacts, interviews, offers, and negotiations (even if we have a “number one” prospect pencilled in), it could well be Wednesday or Thursday next week. If Richmond and others make a run, it could be a long wait.
Chaos, like me
March 18th, 2011
12:42 pm
Pardon me: “hear,” not “here.”
Chaos, like me
March 18th, 2011
12:43 pm
There’s no need to be in a hurry, of course, but it is frustrating as a fan.
FullMetalJacket
March 18th, 2011
12:48 pm
Yes, no need to hurry into a bad hire. While we won’t get in a bidding war with anyone anyway, it would be nice to lock in a coach as early as possible for recruiting, p.r., and clarity. We don’t want to negotiate with a Mooney or a Marshall after NC State has just overpaid a Miller or Barnes: it would likely indirectly cost us more even though they’re different men, different jobs.
Brother Doug, where art thou?
March 18th, 2011
12:49 pm
Any new rumblings, rumors, or insights, Doug?
tech86
March 18th, 2011
3:36 pm
At least Dollar Bill is understanding of a good coach who can develop players, look at Donnie Tyndall and stop with these other guys. We beat Richmond with our former coach, Tyndall and the Morehead State eagles upset Pitino and he was not going to settle for a tie. Know for a fact that this guy will take the job and stay a while if offered. If nothing else, give him an interview. He was great on Mike and Mike this morning. The guy can coach and graduate players, he won’t be long for Morehead State, forget about MArtin, Marshall, Stansbury, we need the intensity of this guy.
Stinger 2
March 18th, 2011
3:57 pm
There are some good posts on this blog. They are the ones who have said let DRad (assisted by Folger) handle the hiring of a new coach. GT will make its own decision without listening to the bloggers.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 18th, 2011
4:02 pm
I’m really tempted to email Drad again asking about the availability of Bruce Pearl. Sure, Pearl has some baggage, but it sounds like he is remorseful. Heck, just look how he completely turned around two programs! He worked miracles at UCLA and at Tennesee, and he can definitely do the same at Tech, with a much better recruiting base in Atlanta.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:30 pm
I suspect Pearl will have to take a step back before going forward to a good job.
I can’t see us hiring Pearl.
Only way Pearl gets the job is if the Tech job has fallen a lot more than any of us think.
Like Woodson, not going to happen.
I agree with trusting DRAD & Folger with the choice.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 18th, 2011
4:33 pm
I respectfully disagree Jackets2011. I think Drad will feel kind of desperate and will try to win at all cost. Say what you want about the guy, Bruce Pearl is an excellent basketball coach.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:38 pm
Point taken.
Supersize that order, mutt
March 18th, 2011
4:40 pm
Thanks Jackets2011. You seem like a good poster, and I appreciate your insight and knowledge.
-Super
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:50 pm
U as well.
WAsn’t sure I was coming back for football but who was I kiding.
Went for a run, Tech called, faked disinterest and then caved.
Made the salesguy earn his dough.
Jackets 2011
March 18th, 2011
4:57 pm
FSU has Singleton back.
I’m going to try and pull for them since a win will bring the conference more money.
Not sure I can.
GTFan
March 18th, 2011
8:10 pm
Just say no to Pearl…to much baggage.
Dollar Bill
March 18th, 2011
10:03 pm
Pearl gone. Actually this game was academic. Funny…. academics and UT. Ha!
Tyndall to UT. Mooney to NCSU. Tech to dance with Stevens and he says no -” I will stay with the one that brung me”. Sister Doreen upgraded to prophet status and I go back down to PhenixCcity and find out our recruits that will sign next year.
michael
March 18th, 2011
11:35 pm
TUBBY SMITH PlEASE.
Bill M.
March 19th, 2011
7:24 am
I know he’s young but the coach that I would look at is the Memphis Coach, Pastner??? He’s young (33)and his team plays hard and fast. They need a coach that can recruit and relate to the young players.
ormewood
March 19th, 2011
9:28 am
When did Pearl coach at UCLA? Don’t think so. He is anything but remorseful. Four days after shedding crocodile tears at a press conference where he fesses up, he commits yet another violation. Scumbag.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:19 am
As bad as Tech fans feel about the current state of their hoops program, NC State is in a much more desperate position. State relies far more heavily on basketball as its defining athletics program and needs to make a big splash with their next hire. Since their apparent first choice, Arizona’s Miller, may be untouchable, State may be dipping deeper into the same applicant pool as Tech. Namely, Richmond’s Mooney is likely on both schools’ short list, and the farther he goes in the NCAA tournament the more likely he is to end up at State. I don’t think Tech is in position to enter a bidding war with State for a hoops coach, and the State administration (AD and chancellor) have made it clear they are eager and willing to pay handsomely to rejuvenate their flagship sport. Mooney makes a bigger splash as the coach of an Elite Eight or even Final Four team, both goals within reach now that Richmond’s future opponents look less formidable than a few days ago.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:27 am
Bruce Pearl’s NCAA violations are rather minor compared to recent transgressions by Tressel and company. The right move for Tennessee is to fire AD Hamilton (completely incompetent) and let the next AD decide Pearl’s fate. All that said, Pearl’s deceiving the NCAA and then breaking the rules again right after apologizing is bad and puts UT in a vulnerable situation. The NCAA should demand that Hamilton–the man who hired Kiffin and Pearl’s boss–be either sanctioned or fired, but then the suits generally stick together. UT will never get the SMU treatment, but they are flirting with constant scrutiny by the hypocritical NCAA.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:32 am
Whoever hires Pearl next is inviting the NCAA to scrutinize their athletics program. I can’t see him going to another high-major school for his next stop, though I have no doubt he will be in the final four soon with somebody.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
10:34 am
For Ga. Tech: I vote Mooney. Marshall. Neal. –in that order.
Jack Daniels Terrier
March 19th, 2011
11:18 am
Is Georgia Tech ready for Shaka Smart’s “havoc” style of play? His stock and his profile are rising even as we speak, and Radakovich seems to be leaning towards an up-and-comer. Can’t imagine NCSU being interested in him as he is not as established as Mooney and others, so he may fall to Tech.
MaChelle Joseph: Five Straight NCAA's
March 19th, 2011
11:25 am
We’d be lucky if our next men’s coach is half as good as our women’s coach. I don’t watch women’s hoops myself, but congrats to the Lady Jackets and their coach.
GTFan
March 19th, 2011
11:30 am
Coach Joseph is 1st class..You should watch today its should be good.
O-men
March 19th, 2011
11:39 am
Games @ 11:20 PM on dir-tv 733 damn late night show.
Mooney & Grant my top picks for GT’s Coach.
HERE YOU GO Priceless
March 19th, 2011
12:03 pm
COLIN COWHERD ON ESPN RADIO FRIDAY PRAISING MARK PRICE …WHY DO YOU BLIND GT PEOPLE CANNOT SEE WHAT OTHERS CAN IN PRICE? IT IS PITIFUL.
AMONG OTHER THINGS, COWHERD SAID PRICE WAS THE MOST TALENTED, SMART AND DISCIPLINED POINT GUARD EVER TO PLAY THE GAME. AND WE ALL KNOW ABOUT PRICE’S CHARACTER BUT OH NO, IT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO YOU PEOPLE. YET YOU ALL WANT “MARSHALL” TO COACH GT. YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW HIM. I KNEW HIM AT WINTHROP AND THAT IS WHERE HE BELONGS. SOME OF THESE COACHES ARE NOT EVEN FIT TO CARRY PRICES’ SHOES AND YOU GT PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND TO THAT FACT.
SO WHAT LOWE DID NOT WORK OUT AT NC STATE, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PRICE? PRICE IS NOT SIDNEY LOWE. YOU ALL OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED
O-men
March 19th, 2011
1:41 pm
Just in…Lady Jackets win in 1st round and moving on. Congrad to Team & Coach Joseph
sorry about wrong time@11:39
GTAlumforSalley
March 19th, 2011
2:15 pm
How about John Salley? Salley’s engaging personality, professional experience, and GT performance (including graduation) makes for a pretty attractive resume. In addition to having some credibility with recruits, I believe it would actually be “fun” to return to Alexander – something I didn’t do this past season although I am a 20+ year season ticket holder.
ga tech 92
March 19th, 2011
3:35 pm
HERE YOU GO Priceless – What are you talking about? I’ve seen a lot of posters, including me, say good things about Price.
barbie
March 19th, 2011
3:58 pm
NICE ROAD WIN AT CLEVELAND STATE FOR BOBBY CREMINS AND C OF C TODAY, WILL PLAYE WINNER OF VT/WITCHITA STATE
Dadgum......
March 19th, 2011
5:26 pm
My sources are simply friends well connected in the GT community. They may not be better than someone elses sources. I know them to be reliable and credible and where pertinent info is divulged I will pass along what I know.
Again I have been told that no former GT players or coaches are on the short list. Chris Mooney of Richmond is still the runaway frontrunner. Grant is still in play but appears a long shot. Living in Richmond I can assure you nobody connected with UR is expecting Mooney back. He may not end up at GT but he is going somewhere.
Dollar Bill
March 19th, 2011
6:20 pm
NCSU if Debbie Yow (ster) cannot get Barnes or Turgeon – she WILL get Mooney. Why Mooney would go to Cow College and play third fiddle to UNC and Duke? Come to Tech and you can play second fiddle to Duke. We seem to at least have a fighting chance with UNC.
GTFan
March 19th, 2011
6:59 pm
Thanks Dadgum…..Hope it is Mooney.
Doug does anyone cover the Lady Jackets?
Jackets 2011
March 19th, 2011
7:16 pm
If we hire the Richmond coach, I can tape the games and use them instead of sleeping pills.
Jackets 2011
March 19th, 2011
7:30 pm
Price or Neal would reenergize the fan base, I’ll grant you that.
I don’t think Supersize or myself should be ashamed for questioning giving the job to an ex-player and asking whether any candidate is qualified.
Now either of the two may be just what we need to get the fans back.
But I went to games during the Curry years and there was one exciting year out of seven just to get dumped after we had trained him.
But if DRAD decides on Price or Neal, I’m fine with it.
I just want him to give it sufficent thought and not just go along with it because someone like Bobby Dodd is pushing the idea on him.
Some have said that is what happened to Rice on the Curry hire.
Jackets 2011
March 19th, 2011
7:34 pm
@Dollar Bill
We do have to give Hewitt credit for that.
During his years, we played our best games vs UNC.
Jacket Insight
March 22nd, 2011
8:09 pm
Gregg Marshall is the perfect guy for this job at Tech. Proven winner who demands: 1) defense; 2) good passing; 3) proficient foul shooting; 4) players must be gentlemen. Great guy with a nice family. Proven ability that we need.