Fogler’s history of helping find coaches

Eddie Fogler, who led three different teams to the NCAA tournament, is assisting Georgia Tech athletic director Dan Radakovich in his search for the team’s next basketball coach. Radakovich decided not to retain Paul Hewitt after 11 seasons.

This isn’t Fogler’s first go-round helping schools find a new leader. So, how has he done? First, it must be noted that Fogler just serves in an advisory capacity. He doesn’t make the hire. Obviously he has no influence on the team’s success beyond helping the search committee.

He has advised at least five schools: Auburn, Kansas State, Illinois-Chicago, South Carolina and Tennessee. He’s also assisting Towson in its current search.

Here’s what has happened:

School…..New Coach……Record at New School.

Auburn……..Tony Barbee, formerly at UTEP……11-20.

There were some that said Barbee should have gotten consideration for SEC coach of the year, considering the mess he inherited.

Illinois-Chicago………….Howard Moore, former assistant at Wisconsin……….7-24.

Indiana……………………..Tom Crean……………………..28-66 in three seasons, including an 8-46 mark in the Big Ten. Not good.

Kansas State………….Frank Martin, an assistant on staff……… 94-42.

The Wildcats haven’t regretted this hire.

South Carolina………….Darrin Horn, formerly at Western Kentucky…………… 50-42.

After a great start (21-10), Horn hasn’t had a winning record in the past two seasons (29-32).

Tennessee State……….John Cooper, formerly an assistant at Auburn……………….. 23-39.

UNC-Wilmington………..Buzz Peterson……………………………………13-17, 7-11.

A little more on Fogler:

He played for Dean Smith at North Carolina, where he later became an assistant coach and helped to recruit Michael Jordan.

He became a head coch at Wichita State, where he went 61-32 from 1986-89

He accepted the job at Vanderbilt, going 81-48 from 1989-92, including an NIT championship, SEC championship and Sweet 16 appearance in the NCAA tournament.

He accepted the job at South Carolina, but didn’t have the same success. He went 123-117 with two NCAA tournament appearances.

If I find more examples, I’ll add them to the chart.

– Doug Roberson, AJC

139 comments Add your comment

Dollar Bill

March 17th, 2011
11:40 am

Dumbo

March 17th, 2011
11:49 am

Dang, couldn’t the Rad find someone who’s had a little better luck than old Foggy?

SO HE'S 50/50

March 17th, 2011
11:52 am

Why not just flip a coin between Mooney and Mack?

Gordon

March 17th, 2011
11:53 am

This doesn’t make me feel a whole lot better.

Gordon

March 17th, 2011
11:54 am

1. Grant
2. Marshall
3. Mooney

GT45

March 17th, 2011
11:54 am

AIN’T GOT TO GO FAR: NOODLES!

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
11:56 am

Guys, I’m not sure I would used the coaches’ records as a reflection of Fogler’s talent at evaluating coaches. Too many variables.

Chaos, like me.

March 17th, 2011
12:04 pm

Thank goodness! A new blog to mull over and respond to. Thank you, Doug.

Chaos, like me.

March 17th, 2011
12:04 pm

Mooney. Marshall. Stallings. Plan B (or actually “D”).

Chaos, like me.

March 17th, 2011
12:08 pm

Not very impressive credentials for Fogler as an advisor. Radakovich must have known him pretty well at South Carolina. I trust DRad’s judgment more than Fogler’s, but the AD can’t be everywhere at once.

Chaos, like me.

March 17th, 2011
12:10 pm

If we don’t hear something by late Monday, I will be surprised. Not shocked, but surprised. Of the realistic prospects, only Marshall’s team (Wichita St.) should still be playing by then.

Chaos, like me.

March 17th, 2011
12:11 pm

OK, I’ll stop talking to myself. See you later.

DRad Presser at 3 p.m.!

March 17th, 2011
12:14 pm

Not really. Just wishful thinking.

Phil mcgroin

March 17th, 2011
12:15 pm

Grant is not under consideration for the GT job anymore guys. He is OFF the list. Mooney looks like the next GT coach.

StraightJacket

March 17th, 2011
12:18 pm

Fogler’s value is in being a third-party through whom potential candidates and their agents can communicate via “back channels” to question the various criteria of the GT job and what the compensation and terms might be. Being discreet is key.

Whether Fogler’s “recommendations” are actually hired is immaterial and not a testament to his purpose. Tech had BETTER do its OWN interviewing of candidates, and the success or failure of the hire is on DRAD; not Fogler.

One more thing: DRAD can do everything exactly right, get the best candidate for GT, and STILL have it “not work out”. Nevertheless, I’m confident that his process is good, and that he’ll get the best coach he can within the resources and information he’ll have at the time a decision is required.

sidewalk74

March 17th, 2011
12:20 pm

CRAIG NEAL ! Don’t even interview anyone else.

Bobby Brown

March 17th, 2011
12:25 pm

Craig Neal has a great track record. Can he recruit??? If he can, he is the man for the job.

GT Baby!

March 17th, 2011
12:43 pm

I agree with Gordon and Chaos plus……..My list: Mooney, Marshall, Brad Stevens, Brian Gregory and Cuonzo Martin. Wanted Grant but heard he was out?
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Newtonite

March 17th, 2011
12:47 pm

Let’s pull for New Mexico to lose early in the NIT, so DRAD can formalize the hiring of Craig Neal.

JLC

March 17th, 2011
12:48 pm

Do not hire Mooney!! I don’t care what his record is. The Princeton style offense will not put butts in the seats!

GT Fan

March 17th, 2011
1:06 pm

Butler plays great D stop ODU 4 min without scoring. Steven would be good for GT.

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
1:09 pm

JLC…he doesn’t run a Princeton style of offense. The offense he runs is more up-tempo. It does have elements of back-screens, etc.

GT Fan

March 17th, 2011
1:14 pm

He also lets guards free lance ……..

Florida jacket

March 17th, 2011
1:18 pm

How about Wayne Tinkle of the University of Montana, they had a down year this year only 23 wins. But does anybody remember what they’ve done in the NCAA tournament recently?

Jacket Grad

March 17th, 2011
1:19 pm

Look at Rick Stansbury

GT Fan

March 17th, 2011
1:31 pm

Doug do you have any inside (contacts) info like Dadgum has, etc. If so whats the #1 choice as of now.

T3

March 17th, 2011
1:43 pm

I’ll stick with PLAN “D” as in D-RAD.

I have 100% confidence that D-RAD will make the right hire.

D-RAD doesnt suffer fools.

His 1st GT coaching hire is all the proof you need.

..

GT Dude

March 17th, 2011
1:45 pm

Doug if your going to follow up your original post with with this statement
“Guys, I’m not sure I would used the coaches’ records as a reflection of Fogler’s talent at evaluating coaches. Too many variables.”
Why post the records in the first place?

Fogler is just a highly paid headhunter

T3

March 17th, 2011
1:47 pm

I’ll again add: No one is talking about the #1 Candidate.

A hire of this #1 Candidate would be a “coup” of HISTORIC proportions.

We wait.

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
1:55 pm

GT Dude: context mostly. I figured if I didn’t, and all the coaches were undefeated, some folks might say, “Doug, why didn’t you post the records?”

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
1:56 pm

Without knowing who Dadgum is or his sources, I couldn’t say. I don’t know who Tech’s No. 1 choice is. I know who I would go after, but what do I know?

jomo

March 17th, 2011
2:04 pm

BOBBY CREMINS can still COACH…..bring him back NOW !!!!!!!!

Dollar Bill

March 17th, 2011
2:06 pm

And on the outside moving up fast….. Donnie Tyndall

Morehead State loookin’ good.

And Doug thanks for setting the Mooney Princeton Offense junk. They put 90 on Wake and could have scored 110 if they wanted to.

mario

March 17th, 2011
2:30 pm

there are really only 3 candidates: Bobby Cremins, Tubby Smith and Craig Neal…..the ideal scenario would be Bobby or Tubby and have Neal as an assistant

GT Fan

March 17th, 2011
2:33 pm

Thanks Doug..I respect your opinion.

GT Fan

March 17th, 2011
2:36 pm

Mario..3 strikes you out!
Tubby hell no! The other two will never happen. Rads will get his own man.

GT Fan

March 17th, 2011
2:38 pm

Doug who would you go after? Maybe you know more than you let on.

GIVE ME A BREAK

March 17th, 2011
2:44 pm

Tubby would bring no excitement. Neal knows what GT needs and wants. With the right assistants, he would brings the fans in. Price and Dennis Scott would be great to see on the bench with Neal.

JM

March 17th, 2011
2:48 pm

It’s always good to get an outsiders opinion on important matters.

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
2:57 pm

Who would I go after? Me, of course. I ruled when I assisted my son’s 5-year-old team.

Dollar Bill

March 17th, 2011
3:10 pm

Billy Gillispie rumored to be going to Texas Tech.

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
3:11 pm

I think my philosophy of “Hey, do your best and you’ll get juice boxes after the game” and “let’s try not to have four of you within a foot of the guy with the ball” would work well in the ACC.

Tony Shumpert

March 17th, 2011
3:16 pm

Doug, assuming Iman is not a top 10 pick in this years draft and stays in school, what do you think the next coach needs to do to showcase Imans skills?

ormewood

March 17th, 2011
3:19 pm

Fogler is an outstanding basketball mind. While on Dean Smith’s UNC staff, it was he, and not Roy Williams, that was thought to be the coach with the best future. He did a good job at all three places where he was the head man. I think he knows a lot of coaches and is well-regarded in the coaching community.

Geori

March 17th, 2011
3:38 pm

Fogler sucks

Dollar Bill

March 17th, 2011
3:39 pm

Hmmmmmm Morehead State lookin’ reeeeellly goooood!!!

Mr. Tyndall – I dont know his situation up there but the team looks like it is really well coached.

Cameron

March 17th, 2011
3:55 pm

Seriously Doug, who would you pick if you were the A.D.?

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
3:55 pm

I thought Iman showed tremendous improvement this year but there’s no way he’s a top-10 pick. He’s not even listed in the first two rounds of many mock drafts. That surprises me, actually.

What does the next coach need to do? He needs to find someone to take the scoring pressure off Shumpert. He can be a good shooter, but not when he has to take so many shots, as he did this year. He didn’t get chances to beat people off the dribble this year, either. Another shooter would allow him to try and showcase that skill. He’s so much bigger than other point guards, he can also post up. He did some of that this year, but not a lot.

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
3:58 pm

Cameron, I don’t know who I would pick. There are so many factors.

Chris Mooney seems like he would be a strong candidate, but is he going to energize the fan base? How many of you have heard of him before this year?

This is arguably the biggest hire Radakovich has had to make. Gailey was consistently winning as the football coach, but Radakovich saw the fan base wanted more. The basketball team hasn’t had that consistency and it’s got a new arena that will soon be on the way. It’s a $45 million hire.

Doug Roberson

March 17th, 2011
4:02 pm

Who would you hire?