One way Johnson gauges his defense

Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson said there are many ways to tell how effectively a defense is playing.

One of the stats he uses is to look at the percentage of times opponents score when they have the ball.

He said a really good defense will allow scores between the high-teens and mid-20s.

Tech’s opponents scored 34 percent of the time. The Jackets were ninth in the ACC in scoring defense, allowing 26.2 points per game. ACC opponents scored on 39 percent of their possessions against Tech. The Jackets’ offense scored 38 percent of the time overall, and 38 percent of the time in conference play. Opponents scored on 37 percent of their possessions last season.

Clemson, the No. 1 scoring defense in the ACC (17.75 points per game allowed), allowed scores on 27 percent of opponent’s possessions.

Johnson was asked if the defense showed improvement in any specific area as the season progressed. He said no, saying no part of the team has played consistently well throughout the year.

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Stinger 2

December 9th, 2010
5:23 am

If these stats are a good measure of a good defense, will GT ever get to the high-teens or mid 20s with its 3-4 defense? Will it be able to recruit the right players for this defense to get better? I hope so.

CloudmanJacket

December 9th, 2010
5:49 am

Can he also explain how he lost to 5 unranked teams this year? Fire CPJ

Robert Barron

December 9th, 2010
6:06 am

Think what the 2009 team could have accomplished with a decent defense.

Old Gold

December 9th, 2010
6:10 am

Florida would be a good move for Johnson!

Gold Helmets

December 9th, 2010
6:25 am

Great defenses wins championships. We need to improve our defensive line and linebackers. Wish we could get Truitt to change his mind. How well the players perform in the S&C program this off season will be important.

Paddy

December 9th, 2010
7:13 am

Gold Helmets….you have fallen into that old trap; repeating a saying so often you believe it is true. Great defense do not win you championships. They may help you get to the dance but the teams with the great offense brings home the crystal 9 out of 10 times. if your team is not a threat to score on almost every series of downs, you are sitting home with your teammates that played great defense and wondering why.

Saban

December 9th, 2010
7:42 am

With Johnson and Groh Tech has two of the best coaches in the Country.

With time they will create something special.

Johnson`s success has raised expectations quickly to a level Tech had not had seen under previous coaches.

Considering the defense changed to a 3/4, the need to recruit, losing two NFL players, it is remarkable the defense did as well as they did.

I would worry far more about Johnson leaving on his own. You folks should support him.

UGA=YAWN

December 9th, 2010
7:49 am

Dude. We’re underdogs! Against Air Force! How embarrassing.

dawgfan

December 9th, 2010
7:51 am

Unless you have Cam Newton at QB or play in the Pac 10 (not that Oregon has a bad D mind you), you need a great defense to play for it all. And since Tech has none of these things and probably never will, I hope you like Shreveport because it probably won’t be your first stop there. Thanks.

Of course, its probably never occured to Paddy that you need a great offense AND a great D to win it all. That makes far too much sense for a Tech fan.

Thanks again.

GTJeff

December 9th, 2010
7:51 am

Paddy you are a moron. How do you think Bama didn’t have a stellar offense last year. They won it with a suffocating DEFENSE.

GTJeff

December 9th, 2010
7:52 am

dawgfan I don’t think any Tech folks need a lecturing from a uneducated redneck inbred mutt fan on something we have all been preaching d-bag. Paddy is most likely one of your inbred relatives.

RAMBLINWRECK

December 9th, 2010
8:02 am

@Cloudman

I’m sorry, but how many GT coaches have won 8 games in year 1 and 11 in year 2 with a conference title and a BCS trip in just 2 years again?? Fire CPJ?? Are you an IDIOT? Try not to get our program confused with the gators man, good grief. It’s fans like you who make no sense. We had a bad year, these things happen. The 4 guys who left out program early were HUGE losses to our program and no leaders stepped up in 2010 for this football team. Leaders are born and PJ can’t teach leadership. You either have them or you don’t. This team has a new defensive scheme and a difficult one to grasp with not exactly a lot of talent on the defensive side either for Groh to work with if you have not noticed. Don’t let me get in the way of reality though. Look at what UGA is going through over there. They have loads of talent according to every recruiting ranking and i would love to see GT have that same issue but they both had the same record this year and we won 3 more games then them last year. PJ didn’t fumble 3 times vs UGA or miss an EP. He didn’t play bad defense all year. These players have not performed or executed at the level i’m sure PJ would have liked. Leadership and a lack of focus and intensity are at play here. PJ has more of his guys coming into this system now. This will help in my opinion. He took pro-style players and won in an option based attack. Not many coaches can do that!!! When he gets a true dual threat qb who is as deadly on his feet as he is airing it out, this offense will be almost unstoppable. It’s pretty good now with 0 passing threat. You need to chill and realize we won’t beat VT every damn year and win the ACC title. The kids played hard vs the 2 strongest teams on our schedule in VT and UGA. It was an injury to our QB (VT) and boneheaded play (fumbles) that cost us big time in athens. We will be back and our schedule is much favorable for us next year. We got unc,vt,uga and clemson all at home! NCST an miami are the biggest road tests in 2011. If we take care of business at home and just split those 2 on the road,we have an excellent shot even with a young QB who could break in next year. Our most gifted QB is days who was redshirted and i would put money on it that he will start. He is built like nesbitt 6 ft 2 220 lbs and runs a 4.4 and can throw. We will be back! Get an IQ in firing PJ. This man will continue to do good things at GT.

Rufus

December 9th, 2010
8:02 am

PJ needs to have a serious discussion about his defensive philosophy with Coach Dodd.

Al Groh = fraud

December 9th, 2010
8:14 am

Question? Can someone please tell me when Al Groh was ever the defensive coordinator of a great defense? Do some research and you will find out the truth. Groh was an underling to Belicheck on some great defenses as a position coach but never as the head man. Al Groh is a fraud.

Colorado

December 9th, 2010
8:17 am

13 responses and only 3 or 4 are fans rest are dogs. How’s that 6 and 6, soon to be 6 and 7, yappers?

Better get your mommies to change your depends. Ricket can help her.

4th and Long Gone

December 9th, 2010
8:21 am

@Paddy,
I completely disagree. I will take Tech’s offenses numbers any day. I do expect them to score on every possession, whether it is on one play or it takes 20 plays. If the defense could stop the other team, GT would be in great shape.

superDawg

December 9th, 2010
8:23 am

Look at the score board and the truth will be told!

RAMBLINWRECK

December 9th, 2010
8:25 am

@DAWGFAN

Sir, if i were you, i wouldn’t boast about anything given how your season unfolded. Your welcome for becoming bowl eligible on thanksgiving weekend and you didn’t even deserve a bowl game considering how you played vs GT. You were a missed EP from a tie and your stat line was 4 GT turnover= 28 points! If GT would have cashed in on it’s chances that you gave, you would not be going anywhere and you would have been blown out in athens! That was our story all year. We put it on the ground too much and we were poor in the redzone with scoring chances but you guys did everything to lose even knowing that you had to win and you still looked like crap. The AD disgraced your school to epic levels and you lead the country in arrests! Another top 10 recruiting class= memphis which is just as big of a dump and crappy bowl as shreveport. I would worry about your high school defense that we hung 500 plus yards on with our BACKUP QB! You have the bragging rights and i get why last year was a great win as we were ranked #7 and you guys don’t beat top 10 teams really anymore or ranked teams for that matter so why get on GT blogs and act so superior when you beat a team that was a 2 td underdog on your home field? You should have actually lost! I know some uga fans who said if we had not left points on the field, you would have been shut out of a bowl. Some uga fans felt we out played uga! I told some uga friends before the game that if GT won the game, what did we really accomplish beating a 5-6 team? What would have there really to get excited about? Hey, we beat a team that lost to colorado!? Give it up man, you guys are in a downward spiral over there and are not much better than we were if any at all in 2010! I usually ignore ignorant fans like you but you post on GT blogs all the time running your d*cksucker!! Get a life and run your mouth on your own blog, we know already we were not a good team this year without your input. That’s all the more reason why you beating a 2 td underdog was not THOR-LIKE in regards to such an accomplishment. Congrats, you did what a 2 win kansas team did!!

gt45

December 9th, 2010
8:27 am

Cloudman, never seen you post on here before! It is easy to spot the posers. I’m sure CPJ would give his left kidney to science for a good D. I would love to see what this team could do if we could shut teams down, instead of having to outscore them.

Fire Paul Johnson

December 9th, 2010
8:37 am

Why is Paul Johnson so clueless about defense? First he hires Dave Wommack, then he becomes the laughingstock of the ACC when he picks The Chessmaster from the scrap heap.

Why did this team not improve in any phase from week to week(as Johnson himself said)?

GT had ONE win all year against a winning team, 7-5 UNC, who was missing half its defense. Also,losses to 3-9 Kansas, 6-6 Clemson, 6-6 UGA. Why can PJ not beat a 5 loss UGA team, or 6 loss UGA team? The win in 2008 is looking more and more like a fluke.

Why are PJ’s players so soft and undisciplined, playing with none of the fire which PJ claims they must play? Are there still too many Gailey players on the team?

firepauljohnson.blogspot.com

UGA=YAWN

December 9th, 2010
8:43 am

Dude. We’re underdogs! Against Air Force! How embarrassing.

GT Rich

December 9th, 2010
8:43 am

Alabama can run the 3-4 because they can get great athletes. We can get enough good players for the 1st team, but I’m mostly concerned about our ability to get depth behind those guys.

superDawg

December 9th, 2010
8:47 am

ramblinwreck you sound like a bitter sore loser spouting excuses left and right.UGA had a poor season but the fact is we own gt and you must live with it.

RAMBLINWRECK

December 9th, 2010
8:52 am

@AL GROH A FRAUD

Groh is a two-time Atlantic Coast Conference Coach of the Year, winning the award in 2002 and 2007. Groh has over 38 years of professional and collegiate coaching experience; this history includes 13 seasons in the NFL, a Super Bowl title with the New York Giants, and over a decade of working under coach Bill Parcells. He also was the DC at new england from 93-96.

If you want to see a real FRAUD look no further than todd “i’m stealing 750k” grantham!!! You guys pay him 750k for what? Letting a high school offense hang 500 yards on your high school defense? LMAO

I explained what issues GT defense has above if you could read. We are lacking real playmakers on that side bad! It is no secret we must recruit better on that side and we do have some young talent, so we will see what happens. We stunk last year on defense with almost the same damn group of players and a different coach (wommack). We need to focus on recruiting better. The offense will be fine. UGA had 2 weeks to prepare and we saw what happpened. UNC had 2 weeks to prepare as did VT. We hung over 400,450 and 500 yards on all 3 of those teams. I’m not worried about the offense. We will take better care of the ball next year, i doubt PJ allows that crap again. We will be fine as i said, our schedule sets up pretty nice in 2011. winning 8 or 9 is very realistic for our program next year. We should be very good in 2012 even with a tougher schedule but 2012 should be a year we really have a shot at running the table in the ACC without a doubt!

A uga fan said for us to worry about going 6-7, what about uga? I think UCF is leaps and bounds better than colorado there idiot, so i wouldn’t count my eggs before they hatched. I think both uga and GT could lose their bowl games and if you think differently than you are delusional. Your 6-6 dude! That isn’t world beater status is it? I guess you guys now think you can beat anybody even though you have not beaten a team all year that is ranked or better than 6-6. Some of you leghumper fans don’t live in reality though. I’m directing this to the kool aid drinking dawg fans, not the ones who do have common sense.

Chuck Allison

December 9th, 2010
8:53 am

As a lifetime Tech fan and Tech graduate, I am extremely disappointed that Coach Johnson has such extremely low expectations of a college defense. The goal of a good defense should be to shut out the opposing team. Tech used to have good defenses – but that was before Paul Johnson. Now we see defensive players trying to bump and knock opponents to the ground instead of grabbing them and throwing them to the ground. I would just like to see more manly pride by some of our defensive players.

Mississippi State University is calling

December 9th, 2010
9:09 am

Florida would never call CPJ. They want a circus act offense. Also, he has done NOTHING vs SEC teams except for UGA in 08 and Vandy and MSU last year. Now, he DOES PRESENT Mississippi State with a fine candidate IF Mullins leaves for Florida.

MSU has always over the last 30 years been successful with a triple option team. They understand that system and can get the bodies needed to outfit such a squad and I suspect, right now, have at least two QBs that played the option in HS.

CPJ has done all that he can do at GT. He wants so deprately to WIN big in the big boy SEC. He is not going to shape GT into a regional or even state wide power ( within the ACC ) as he has been figured out by all good coaches. FSU and Miami and NC State and Va Tech and maybe a Clemson will always have better teams. Maryland from time to time will handle him easily with their high octane O. Boston College too.

Now is the perfect time for CPJ to bolt GT with Nesbitt leaving and it configures nicely with this irrefutable fact: GT has a new football coach on board about every 4 years.

The best GT coach in 45 years

December 9th, 2010
9:13 am

UGA man here. I recall Bud Carson in like 69, 70, 71. Now he was a great D coordinator and was head coach at GT and left for the NFL. HE was a great college coach.

GT had some hard hitting D teams and led by biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig Rock Perdoni.

Go Dogs.

UGAG is gitting the ncaa death penalty, he he ha ha

December 9th, 2010
9:17 am

Fire Mark’s Rectum!

Attn: Ramblin Wreck

December 9th, 2010
9:19 am

Hey man, you ARE a wreck. Get a life and go see a MD somewhere. They have meds for folks like you. You work for the US Post Office?? Wow! Geeeeeeeeeeeez, this is only a free for all web sit for mostly teenagers with no education. It matters not what is posted here pal.

Go sit by a waterfall in Florida ( with Urban Meyer in the room next door) and you will be fine.

One day, when Paul Johnson is released from his “stay” at Ocala Rehab,Inc. he too will know that losing by 8 IS WORSE, than to lose by 1. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Paul in RDU

December 9th, 2010
9:19 am

I guess Doug has a certain number of blogs he has to do every day as I am not sure what is the point of this one. It’s just another set of numbers telling us what we already knew – GT’s defense was bad this year.

As a point of comparison, in 2009 in 162 possessions, the opposition scored 42 TDs and made 18 of 27 FG attempts – that is a score on 37% (slightly higher than in 2010).

Paul in RDU

December 9th, 2010
9:25 am

GT went 9-2 in Bobby Dodd’s last year (1966) with losses to UGA and UF (in the Orange Bowl) in the last 2 games. Under Bud Carson they went 4-6 4-6 4-6 9-3 and 6-6 from 1967 to 1971.

The RING

December 9th, 2010
9:27 am

This same time last year, CPJ told us with confidence that “Al Groh and his NFL ring would be THE missing ingredient in recruiting top D kids.”

Well, um last year they recruited no names and they played like it in 2010. This year, only marginal kids are committing to GT. The one kid that was fairly decent from Monroe is signing with Notre Dame and he gave GT a big NO THANKS. Now, what has Notre Dame done in 25 years to attract a former GT commit?? Did Al Groh present his RING????

That ring is not working. Maybe if Groh tells his recruit that he knew BOTH Paul Horning AND Jimmy Brown they would be impresses.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA The laughter continues like it has for GT since the 1960s.

gt

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am

Johnson can score on you if he was using the cheerleaders. It is the rest of the game Tech has problems. A team like Miami eats us up. They have a complicated offense and we cannot communicate very well in our backfield for some reason, doesn’t matter who the coach is. We did it down there and we were very poor up here with two separate defensive coaches. NC State sliced us up too. We hung with Va. Tech and Georgia because they both used ball control which is playing into our stradegy. We didn’t beat them but we stayed with them till the end, we were killed three times last year by Miami, NC. State. and Clemson. Clemson had our number after we beat them twice last year. I think they spent a week in spring practice looking at our offense so that one doesn’t bother me as much as losing big to Miami. Like I said Johnson can take plumbers and make them work on offense, we have to get some talent on that defense. The problem with the defense and special teams is it is more impulsive and to recruit talent and disciple seems to be a real problem for not only us but Georgia. Even Auburn has this problem and their defensive backfield is not much more if any than Tech’s. They have Fairly putting all that pressure on the quarterback, I think if we could find one guy like that which may be like finding a needle in a haystack but that one player could and would turn the entire program around. We could do this without a Cam Newton, to us the most important player is a Fairly type. The backs and quarterbacks have gotten so big, these linebackers recruited for speed can’t tackle them anymore. The defensive line is where all the action is now days.

ESPN II

December 9th, 2010
9:30 am

ESPN has confirmed the rumor that Mississippi State U is going to chat with CPJ, when Mullins leaves.

This likely will make AL Groh the New HC at GT. Wow.

CT_Jacket

December 9th, 2010
9:34 am

Al Groh = fraud,

1991, DC – NYG #12
1993, DC – NE #11
1994, DC – NE #12
1995, DC – NE #25
1996, DC – NE #14

A top 15 defense 4 out of 5 years in the NFL is not too bad. Any higher and you probably become an NFL HC, not a college DC.

As HC in 2000, the Jets had the #10 defense.
As HC in 2004 & 2007, UVA had the #3 defense in the ACC.

Yes, Groh was so ineffective, that Parcells and Belichick kept him around because they felt sorry for him. They are both known for their professional compassion.

Groh knows how to coach. He has had past success recruiting for the 3-4. I’ll grade him on the D improvement from this year to next. There are no NFL stars leaving to bias the results.

BTW, from 2002 – 2007, under Gailey and Tenuta, GT had one top 4 scoring defense (Pts/Gm)…in the ACC. Tenuta @ ND, #63 down from #42 the previous year.

Hey GT

December 9th, 2010
9:36 am

GT ………………….. UGA man here. Remove the letters GT and replace them with UGA and that solves UGA’s D problems. We do have on campus ( injured in 10) two very highly regarded Nose Tackles in Bean Anderson and Gaithers. Both men are around 6′6″ 310-315 and have some skill. They can require two O linemen to block them, allowing our backers to hit the seam. We too need about two more Nose tackles that can clog up the middle and back them up. Our current D line is not going to be there in 2011. They all will be on the bench.

This on D line spot, along with UGA needing maybe 4 more very decent o linemen and two great running backs can solve our probs.

Time will tell.

JM

December 9th, 2010
9:38 am

Paul in RDU

December 9th, 2010
9:47 am

ESPN II – Who is Mullins? MSU’s coach is Dan Mullen.
It helps to get the names correct when you are trolling blogs

CloudmanJacket

December 9th, 2010
9:54 am

RAMBLINWRECK; I like how you are drinking the Kool-Aid. Yes, a great year last year in one of the worst ACC’s ever. Then, we get embarrassed by a bad MUTTS team at the end of the year last year and then again vs. Iowa or Idaho or whoever it was. Frankly, I am trying to forget. Then, we lose to 5 unranked teams this year including a MUTTS team that was worse than last years team. Listen, keep drinking it, but the 1st 2 years he played with Chan’s players, now he has HIS players and the team is terrible. Losing to 5 unranked teams – seriously. Please explain why you find that acceptable.

geez

December 9th, 2010
9:59 am

what exactly is this Paddy person suppose to be? Trolling for years on the GT blogs claiming to be the authority of every subject, too funny, must be retired doggie nut, ever heard of volunteer work at your local hospital or homeless shelter? Maybe somebody would listen to you there especially if you would feed them

Al Groh = fraud

December 9th, 2010
10:08 am

You two morons giving me stats about the NY Giants do realize that bill belicheck was the defensive coordinator and not al groh? Al Groh was a position coach and not a defensive coordinator. The only good defense the Patriots had during the Groh years was 1996 and guess who was hired before the season started? Yep you guessed it, Bill Belicheck!!! Bill Belicheck was hired as the assistant head coach and Parcels out of respect didn’t want to demote Groh from his title as D coordinator. But everyone in the NFL knew who was running the defense and his name was Belicheck. Only a Tech fan would brag about their D-Coordinator being a position coach on a superbowl team over two decades ago! I still challenge anyone to name a great defense where al groh was actually calling the shots and run ning the defense.

juvenal

December 9th, 2010
10:11 am

glad somebody with Paul in their handle has something interesting to say…looked like lines finally maturing a little…….still waiting for one of these personnel managers to explain who is paying for all these coaching changes, still got a year on chan, hope they win the lottery & vol they own $…….

CloudmanJacket

December 9th, 2010
10:12 am

I like how all of you Kool-Aid drinkers want to blame the bad season on the players, but not the coach. I guess every team can do that. UGA had a bad season, not because the coach, but because the players didn’t execute; blah, blah, blah, blah. The coaches recruit the players and they are suppose to coach them up. Recruiting is one of the keys in college football and CPJ doesn’t do well at it. We see now that he has HIS players.

Ramblin Man

December 9th, 2010
10:12 am

What GT had no defense this season? I had no idea we needed more skill players or that it takes time to build a 3-4 from a 4-3. I still don’t get why people are so surprised GT went 6-6 and are worried about Air Force. People GT lost 5 players to the NFL and 4 of them played a key roll in the success of the past two previous seasons. The o-line lost 3 starters and no replacement for Thomas showed up and it took Allen till mid season to step it up. Unfortunately GT will never recruit like top tier teams and be able to take three recruits for a skill position in the hopes that one works out unless GT starts to offer some easier majors.

Question for Doug

December 9th, 2010
10:13 am

Has Wes Durham said what he is going to do on Dec. 27 with Tech basketball, the bowl game and the Falcons game to deal with?

CloudmanJacket

December 9th, 2010
10:13 am

AL GROH = FRAUD; please don’t confuse the Kool-Aid drinkers with facts.

Doug Roberson

December 9th, 2010
10:13 am

I believe Wes is doing the Tech football game that day, but I’m not sure. I’ll ask.

CloudmanJacket

December 9th, 2010
10:14 am

Question for Doug; If Wes was smart he would do the Falcons game. At least he can call a game where the team has a chance of winning – LOL

GT GRAD

December 9th, 2010
10:14 am

Everyone needs to read the three posts listed above by RAMBLINWRECK………..he is on fire and correct on soooo many levels!

UGA & GT have struggled this season and UGA is VERY VERY fortunate to be in a bowl game (UGA fans should be thankful that GT made so many mistakes which resulted in an ugly victory by UGA). I was at the game sitting with thousands of UGA fans. The UGA fans in my area were reasonable and honest for the most part (there were two obnoxious dudes). The majority of the UGA fans I talked with during the game said they expected UGA to dominate prior to the game, thought GT was going to win during most of the game (half way through the 2nd quarter & beyond), but they were all very relieved when GT missed the extra point and essentially gave the game (and a bowl berth) to UGA.

GT Christmas gift to UGA: A bowl game in Memphis! Merry Christmas everyone.

Ramblin Man

December 9th, 2010
10:16 am

I do agree that CPJ needs to find a better way to motivate these kids. I only watched three games when this team played with some intensity UNC, UGA, and VT while the rest of the games they skated through. I know guys that played for CPJ when he was at Southern and they all say he knows how to coach and could always get them motivated so I just wonder if he forgot how while at Navy as those guys are always motivated and of course would not be at Navy if they were not disciplined.