Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson said the most frustrating thing about this 6-5 season is his inability “to find the hot button on this team.”
He said finding ways to motivate his players has been consistently difficult.
“People can cry about schemes and play-calling, but the chemistry and just being able to do that [motivate] are just as important,” Johnson said.
This week shouldn’t be an issue.
“It’s for the state championship and bragging rights,” he said. “Pick one game off our schedule for alumni, fans and everyone involved, this is the game they would pick.”
He said that he and his staff have tried many different things this season, from the obvious and popular what’s at stake for Tech to what’s at stake for the other team.
“Try everything until you find something that works,” he said.
When asked what motivated last year’s ACC championship team, he said, “If I knew I would use it this year. I don’t know. It just happens.
“I’m more frustrated about that than anything else.”
Motivating teams hasn’t been difficult for Johnson at previous stops at Navy at Georgia Southern.
Discussing this topic last week, Johnson said at Navy the players knew that they weren’t highly recruited. Therefore, “if they didn’t play like their hair was on fire,” they could be embarrassed.
At Georgia Southern, the players didn’t want to be the class that didn’t get a chance to make it to the national championship game. They won two consecutive while Johnson was the head coach.
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Doug the Jacket
November 24th, 2010
5:18 am
THWG
Bring Back Chan
November 24th, 2010
5:44 am
Three years in we should not be having these problems. At a certain point you have to admit the problem is not the attitude of the players, but the ineptitude of the coaching staff. This team has shown zero improvement throughout the season.
Chan never lost 7 games. Can’t wait to see which podunk school gets to shut our option down cold in the bowl game.
GraysonBuz
November 24th, 2010
6:00 am
It’s all about Team Leadership. As CPJ continues to recruit his style of players the chemistry will evolve. Be patient, & we will see a passion & determination to win that will dominate the ACC for years to come. Go Jackets!
THWG
BCSstinks
November 24th, 2010
6:08 am
It is only a matter of time and we will be fine
JJ Red Panties
November 24th, 2010
6:25 am
I am all about CPJ, but IF this happens next year, then we will need to look closer at this. But I am confident that this too shall pass. Go Jackets!!!!!! THWG!!!!!!
Paddy
November 24th, 2010
6:25 am
Bring back Chan……he will be available soon. He had better take the first opportunity offered after he is fired in Buffalo. His career is now rounding 3rd and headed for home!
garcia
November 24th, 2010
6:25 am
I do not respect a man that blames others for his failures.
My guess is that his players feel the same way.
Mike Lum
November 24th, 2010
6:41 am
I still don’t know why the players think they can walk on the field and beat the opponent. Johnson is right. I would be embarrassed to play in the Shreveport bowl. But just watch, the players will be smiling and waving at the camera…then get shut down by another lesser opponent.
12-2
November 24th, 2010
6:53 am
“Georgia Tech’s seniors have one goal left to accomplish. They’ve won a conference championship. They’ve beaten Georgia. They’ve played in a BCS game. But they’ve yet to win a bowl.”
Doug Roberson, you HOMER.
That is Georgia tek’s seniors’ goal ? To have beaten Coach Richt 1 time in 9 years. Been there done that; don’t need to win the Georgia game, nope – not according to Doug Roberson.
Georgia tek’s seniors have also accomplish another goal for Georgia tek – to have won a Major Bowl game in the last 55 years. Went to a BCS bowl game was their only goal in this area. Been there, done that too, according to HOMER Doug Roberson. Winning the miserable ACC then got blown out by 2 opponents to end the season.
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Wrex-N-Fx
November 24th, 2010
7:04 am
re: GraysonBuz
Your claims of CPJ needing to bring in more of “his guys” is a very weak claim, in 08 & 09 he didn’t have more of his guys around, in fact his current Roster has about 66-68 of his guys (his “hand-picked Recruits) filling the 85 schollys, that is a huge majority of the 85 scholarships that he’s allowed, with that Majority on his Roster, it is very hard to convince me and many other “non Kool-aid Drinkers” that the problem is with the players not being able to be motivated.
Quite simply the problem is TALENT, or the fact that CPJ has not Recruited enough replacement-talent from we we have lost from the 08 & 09 Teams.
During 09 & 09 not one GT fan anywhere ever said a darn thing about “we need more CPJ-type guys on the Roster”, no one cared becasue we were putting a decent amount of talent on the field.
Dwyer, Burnett, Morgan, Nesbitt all played very BIG as TRUE SOPHS., nonw compare that to CPJ’s T-Sophs, & RS-Frs. and you will see a gigantic talent drop-off.
For that have been overdosing on CPJ’s Kool-aid, one way to tell that your Recruiting is weak is the play of your Special Teams, great Special Teams play shows that gap between Starters & Back-ups is small and that those Athletes are ready to Step-in in case a Starter goes down, CPJ’s teams have had very weak Special Teams on the Coverage & Return Units which shows that the Athletes that he has Signed are not ready Athletically for D1-A BCS-Level CFB.
Once again all the BLAME falls at the feet of CPJ, yet he continues to throw his players under the bus.
I’m not a Chan supporter because he could never get us a decent passing QB, but if Chan said the same things that CPJ has said in the Media about his players, he would have been crucified by the GT Fanbase, the GT Fanbase seems to like smug, smarmy comments more than they do good Coaching on the sidelines, and GOOD RECRUITING in the Off-Season, thing that CPJ HAS NOT delivered this season.
Spike
November 24th, 2010
7:06 am
Is the honeymoon over for the “new sheriff in town”?
Wrex-NFx
November 24th, 2010
7:22 am
re: Spike
Not yet Spike, the GT Fanbase is one of the most unknowing when it comes to CFB, and that is why we end up hiring guys like Chan and CPJ in the first place.
ADs at big-time BCS Programs know how important Recruiting is, and very rarely do they hire guys that cannot Recruit.
By the time the “reality” sets in to the Kool-aid drinking segment of the GT Fanbase that loves CPJ he will have signed 5-6 recruiting Classes and by that time we’ll have Service Academy CFB at GT, then the Kool-Aid drinkers will wake up and wonder what the heck was GT thinking whe nthey hired that guy.
gtne80
November 24th, 2010
7:22 am
Are you people serious? Chan Gailey? Chan was neither a great recruiter nor a great motivator. Look at his career. He’s been mediocre everywhere he’s been (including at Tech, Dallas, Miami, Buffalo, etc.). He’s reputed to be some sort of great offensive guru, but his record doesn’t support that claim. If we recruited well when he was at Tech, it was more likely one or more of his assistants that did the recruiting (Giff?).
Everyone is reacting to his quotes that he is throwing players and coaches under the bus. I haven’t read any quote where he’s called out a player or coach by name. The way that I read the quotes about motivation, he’s admitting that motivation is a problem and that he’s responsible for finding a way to motivate these kids…which Gailey never saw as his responsibility.
I’m as disappointed with this season as ANY Tech fan/alumni, but the carping at this point is ridiculous.
Spike
November 24th, 2010
7:34 am
Wrex.. Thanks for the heads-up!
InsectInside
November 24th, 2010
7:36 am
Wrex, if the AJC likes smug, smarmy comments, you’re right up their alley. Georgia Tech’s Jane Fonda. PJ holds his players accountable, his coaches accountable and himself accountable.
bud
November 24th, 2010
8:04 am
chan, never won 11 and never went 9-4. plus he lost more bowl games than he won u who want chan back must be ga fans
Wrex.N.Fx
November 24th, 2010
8:07 am
re: InsectInside
Has CPJ held himself accountable for his Recruiting efforts over the past 3 Classes?
Once you Recruit them, you have come with something better than “they didn’t execute” after those same Recruits don’t play well.
Just maybe CPJ’s “we-don’t-need-any-passes-other-than-jump-balls” Passing Game won’t work at the higher levels of CFB unless you have a 6-3 230lb. 4.4-forty once-in-a-coaching-career physical specimen like Bay-Bay?
Did CPJ ever consider that on Offense the TE vs. LB is one of the GREATEST advantages at the higher levels of FB (BCS & NFL) in the passing Game YET he still won’t Recruit any TEs and refuses to have any Offensive Sets that require a TE?
These are the kinds of question that the CPJ Kool-Aid drinkers won’t discuss, and those that do “know a little FB” that ask such questions are deemed to be “negative GT fans” of “Mutts in disguise”.
Please prove to me where I am being unfair in any way to CPJ?
gtne80
November 24th, 2010
8:10 am
why are my posts not getting through?????
gtne80
November 24th, 2010
8:14 am
Chan Gailey was neither a great recruiter nor a great motivator. Yes, we got some great players during his time at Tech, but I doubt that it was solely due to the charisma of the great Chan Gailey.
The quotes from Coach Johnson (if you read them again) indicate that he sees it as HIS responsibility to motivate these kids and he’s frustrated with HIS inability to do that this year with this team. How is that “throwing someone under the bus?”
In the final analysis, Paul Johnson may or may not be the savior of Tech’s program, but I’d NEVER advocate going back to Chan (mediocrity) Gailey.
mowreck
November 24th, 2010
8:18 am
You want to know what I am frustrated about? Reading the sports page this morning and the GT players talking about winning a BOWL GAME! We better be thinking about UGA. Seems like after qualifyiing, we aren’t hungry the rest of the season. Personally, I don’t think we deserve a bowl game, unless we play beat UGA or at least play a tough game against them. Who in their right mind, thinks they deserve a bowl with a 6-6 record. I’d rather stay at home, but thats me.
gtne80
November 24th, 2010
8:24 am
Wrex – I’ll give you this. It always ticks me off when, as a fan, I question something that the current coach or team is doing and I get accused of being a Dawg fan in disguise. Questioning doesn’t make you less of a fan. In my eyes, it’s the right of any fan of the program to sincerely ask questions because we want the program to be better.
I agree. The passing game HAS to get better for this offense to work. What has held that back? I can’t figure out the real reason. In any passing situations this year, our O-line has been porous. That could be because they don’t get a lot of practice time developing pass blocking skills. They focus most of the time on the run blocking patterns. Joshua was a great leader and a tough kid, but was far from the most accurate passer I’ve ever seen. And we’ve all seen the abysmal performances of some of our WRs in dropping catchable balls.
What worries me most about the next game is our defense. This coaching staff seems to want to deflect criticism away from the 3-4 scheme, but I hate it as a defensive scheme. Unless you use the blitz packages that Tenuta used to dial up on every play, you set yourself up to give the opposing QB all the time needed to shred your defense. It’s a difficult defense for even the pro linebackers and d-backs to master. Receivers get lost in the zones and pop out uncovered way too often. Give me a pressure defense that occasionally gives up a big play but more often than not puts heat on the QB anyday.
smitty
November 24th, 2010
8:26 am
agreed gtne80, as the title suggests there is frustration on multiple fronts…the idea that PJ is dishing out blame instead of shouldering the responsibility himself is hogwash….
but hey coach, looking for the hot button?
just give the damn ball to orwin and let him light a fire under this team….
go jackets…..thwg
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
8:28 am
This is not about chan gailey. Why does every conversation or criticism about PJ devolve into backlash against Gailey? Sorry to burst everyones bubble but there are some true GT fans who are concerned about PJ and his coaching style and recruiting. Next season is looking very scary to me because I don’t think we improve much at all on defense and Nesbitt our warrior and leader will be gone. The next 2 years will tell us what PJ is truly all about because we will finally be playing with PJ’s recruits. I have to admit that I’m very skeptical since I have yet to see any young players stepping up this season. Next season PJ will be out of excuses so I want to see this team win.
YellowFuzz
November 24th, 2010
8:32 am
I agree with my fellow GT alums that we’re getting tired of this same ole song & dance routine by CPJ. When teams like Iowa, UGAg, or Va Tech have ample time to prepare then they shut down the perfect option. What do we do when it’s third-and-long? Try to pass and come up short.
Listen, I knew as well as anybody the season was over the second Joshua went down but I respect the job Washington has done in a pinch-hitting role. If only CPJ could adjust the offense to feed off of his talents.
It ain’t gonna be pretty up in thugtown, probably another 51-7 smackdown like Mark Rich handed Chan.
wesleywhatwhat
November 24th, 2010
8:33 am
i can tell someone is a moron with no evidence to back up their assertions when they start talking about other people drinking koolaid.
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
8:35 am
“astute observer,”
I’ll go against my better judgment and give you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you really are being honest here.
You don’t think the defense will improve next year? Why not?
You don’t think players with another year in a brand new system will play in it better?
You haven’t liked what you have seen out of some of our youngsters like Cross, Barnes, I. Johnson, Sweeting, Young, or Attaochu?
Do you think losing Brad Jefferson (our only real impact senior) is going to hurt THAT much?
Please explain how you think the defense won’t improve.
mark Pricht
November 24th, 2010
8:35 am
GT76
I hear what you are saying about the D, but they actually kept us in some games like VT, special teams killed us…I think our big issue is not scoring in the first half, what has it been like 4 games now?
VRTECHFAN
November 24th, 2010
8:38 am
You know what bugs me? Fair-weather Tech fans, who jump on the bandwagon when the team wins the conference championship last year and then jumps off when the team has a down year. I am a true fan. I stick to my team and coach no matter what. I have been frustrated this year as most of you all are about our team’s performance. But I do have faith that we will turn things around next year. This team has no chemistry at all and it does bother me, but I don’t think that goes down as the coach’s fault. CPJ has had 2 recruiting classes that is a fact, but I don’t think they have developed to their potential yet. A great college football player is made by great coaching, but it also has to do with the player’s will to be the best that he can be. Examples would be Calvin Johnson and Bey Bey Thomas. They both were highly recruits that came to Tech, and they worked really hard watching films and working on every facet of the game to get better. I remember watching an interview about Calvin Johnson and how he spent alot to time watching film and trying to be perfect, because he knew that there are people out there that are more prepared than he was. Most of the players this year are probably on the high from last years ACCC and has come back to reality. I hope our team can win this Saturday, but if they don’t I will still support them because that’s what real fans do.
gtne80
November 24th, 2010
8:38 am
As with the story of the Zen Master, “We’ll see…”
Agreed, much of the tale of this coaching staff will be told over the next two seasons. Were the first two years a fluke? Was it the result of the change energizing the players that remained? or is this year the fluke year? We’ll see….
If Johnson can’t get it turned around, in the next two years, then he’ll end up being canned.
Techmate
November 24th, 2010
8:40 am
There sure are a ton of fair weather fans out there. It was just a year ago and we won the ACC title. I’m guessing these same fair weather fans probably never played this game of football. Teams have up and down years. Sometimes it’s coaching, sometimes it’s lack of chemistry or lack of leadership. For those of you who want to get rid of CPJ after one mediocre year, ya’ll need to get a life. Turn off the computer, and go volunteer at a community kitchen or something. You are waaay to whinny.
Go Gold
November 24th, 2010
8:42 am
It’s all in the recruiting. It came easy to many D1 players in high school. Think about these players on their high school team and they were the very best. Now they have to step up and practice, play and compete on a consistent basis with the very best. It’s that something inside that drives an average player to excel (i.e. Keith Brooking). I bet you never had to motivate Calvin Johnson, Joe Hamilton, etc. it came from deep inside the stomach.
404
November 24th, 2010
8:43 am
Sure are a lot of UGAGers in here posing as Tech fans.
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
8:46 am
Techmate gets post of the day.
CarolinaJacket
November 24th, 2010
8:47 am
Maybe its a simple matter of lack of talent. We lost so much last year (including a couple of offensive linemen who don’t get a lot of attentilon). We will have to play our best game of the year to beat UGA and we will have to cut out the stupid mistakes (that has been said after every loss) and finally put some pressure on their qb (sadly lacking all year). On the other hand, I notice that many of the DAWG fans play down this game yet UGA seems to take the week before the game off a lot.
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GTZ09
November 24th, 2010
8:48 am
Bring Back Chan…Can you stop posting the same crap on every Tech blog? Not sure if you remember a guy named Calvin Johnson, but he played for 3 years under chan and we didn’t win anything. Never in my life have I seen a talent more under used than Calvin was at Tech. Last thing Tech needs to do is bring back chan.
Wrex…CPJ became Tech’s head coach in December 2007. By that point over half of the 2008 Recruiting Class was already assembled. Meaning most of those players were hand picked by chan gailey. Your right that most of the scholarship players are CPJs guys, but at the same time almost every upperclassmen on the roster was recruited under chan gailey. There are major leadership issues on this team and that has been the case all season. Leadership falls on the upperclassmen. It is their responsibility to set an example for the younger guys to follow.
Your point about the 2007 recruiting class is valid. But it took gailey 5 seasons to get 1 class this talented. Every other class gailey put together had a couple of good players along with a bunch of 2 stars and unranked players. Not sure if CPJ will be able to replicate that special class gailey put together, but the overall depth CPJ is recruiting is much better than what chan did (consistently getting 3 star talent).
This year has been bad on all accounts, but lets give CPJ a few more seasons before we decide to burn him at the stake. He earned that right last season.
Go Jackets…Beat georgie
Infantile Dawg Fan (redundant, I know)
November 24th, 2010
8:54 am
B-B-But the narrative we’ve created says that that Johnson only blames the players!!!! Facts to the contrary, we’ve been making fun of those evil techies and fish fry johnson by saying he always blames the players! What do we do now?!
Tech82
November 24th, 2010
8:56 am
YellowFuzz – Iowa did, in fact, shut down the option last year. Their defense shut down a LOT of teams last year. As for UGA and VT, you’re wrong. They didn’t beat us by shutting down the option, they beat us because we couldn’t stop their offense. UGA had 415 yards and 21 first downs against our pathetic defense – and we were still driving at the end of the game with a chance to win.
As I’ve said repeatedly, our problem is not CPJ’s offense. Our problem is a total disaster on the defensive side of the ball. I don’t know if it’s due to a lack of athletes of inept coaching but we can’t stop ANYBODY. We made Duke look good (and they’re not).
If our defense could generate some stops, we would be fine. Our offense is putting points on the board.
Dave from GT
November 24th, 2010
8:59 am
Most Jackets I know really don’t give a crap about a bowl game. Most Dawgs I know really don’t give a crap about a bowl game.
Both of these teams have not represented GA very well on the national stage……..
That being said, Both teams really do give a crap about losing this upcoming game…….. and the constant lambasting that comes with the loss.
Now, if GT loses, that is because CPJ hasn’t had enough time. If UGA loses…… Richt is probably looking for a job with Les Miles or Nick Saban.
Take your pick. I’m in because I think we will see max effort from both sides and a really good game. With ESPN national coverage, a sold out stadium, a beautiful late fall night……… good BBQ, Georgia Babes……..
Man this is a great time of the year……. the BEST time of the year.
Tech82
November 24th, 2010
8:59 am
GTZ09 & Techmate – Well said.
GT Jake-99
November 24th, 2010
9:00 am
This game will be a total beat-down. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a delusional HOMER— Possibly worse than 51-7.
The problem isn’t coaching, but LACK OF RECRUITING, and LACK OF TALENT!!!
And that blame falls squarely on Paul Johnson and his staff.
TDone
November 24th, 2010
9:01 am
Gailey could not win with his recruits. Johnson did.
Georgia is a 5-6 team for a reason. They are not Oregon or Auburn. If Georgia were so good, they would be playing next week for the SEC Championship.
There are going to be tub seasons for every program. Look at Texas, Florida, and Tennessee.
Stop getting impatient.
GT12
November 24th, 2010
9:03 am
GT Jake 99:
Please go look at recruiting class rankings between Chan and Johnson. With the exception of the 2007 class outlier, notice the general trend upwards.
Don’t let a few facts get in the way.
DawginLex
November 24th, 2010
9:03 am
Folks, this ain’t gonna be a blowout.
No way.
If you gamble bet the over.
Take Tech and the point spread.
I could see 43-41 in triple OT
JM
November 24th, 2010
9:06 am
Go Jackets! Beat the bulldogs.
Paul in RDU
November 24th, 2010
9:09 am
Certainly some interesting comments on this page.
Some fact:
Chan Gailey’s record at GT 7-6 7-6 7-5 7-5 9-5 7-6
He won 1 Division title (in 2006) but did a horrible job in the ACCCG – and of course he never beat UGA. Heck, his 2002 team quit in the UGA game..
Johnson was hired as GT coach at the end of December 2007. Although this was before NSD it was after all of the serious recruiting had been done. He has effectively 2 recruiting classes (classes of 2009 and 2010) and most of them were redshirted for their freshman year.
I agree that he still needs to demonstrate that he can recruit players who are good enough for the ACC (he’s never going to out recruit UGA, Auburn, ALA, etc) but saying he can’t based on the performance of this year’s team is a stretch.
Next year (year 4 for CPJ) is the key year. You can’t judge how well he’s going to do based on 1 year. Other coaches have had poor records in their 3rd year at a school and done well in their 4th – NCSU was 5-7 last year (2-6 in the ACC) in O’Brien’s 3rd year in Raleigh. This year they are 8-3 (5-2 in the ACC) and will likely beat MD to be in the ACCCG.
Miami went 5-6 in Butch Davis’ 3rd year (1st losing year for them since 1979) and went 9-3, 9-4, 11-1 the following years.
Johnson’s 1st 2 years were the best at GT in over 50 years. Let’s see what happens in the next 2 before declaring him a bust.
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:10 am
And my gut was right.
The “astute observer” was, as we all knew, either a dog wearing a jacket or a CPJ-hater. Not one reason behind any of his claims, just a bunch of nonsense.
Virginia-Highland Jacket
November 24th, 2010
9:11 am
For you “it’s all recruiting types” – REALLY? Please explain Texas & Florida’s 2010 football situation to me geniuses. For @bringbackchan – are you really that dense? Clearly a lot of you guys don’t understand the game of football. CPJ is a winner everywhere he has been and he has already and will continue that at GT. For the idiot that said Ugag & Va. Tech shut down the triple option – how? In the Ugag game our first round draft pick dropped a 4th down pass on the game winning drive, Nesbitt also got hurt in the game by a cheap play by gaggers. Va. Tech we were dominating until Nesbitt went out and Washington kept us in the game if you were actually watching.
CPJ is smart enough to see the weaknesses and will make adjustments, but don’t let facts get in the way of your demand that your team wins 10 games a year or more or else.
Jeff
November 24th, 2010
9:13 am
His offense only works well in little boy football. It’s not about motivation. You lost gailey’s recruits. Now you’re back to navy. Good luck with that. You’re a .500 team year in year out with this coach and system.
GDBurdell
November 24th, 2010
9:14 am
This will be a blowout
UGA 50+
teck 7
If you are expecting some dreamed up BS scenario where teck somehow stops UGA is actually going to happen you will be in for a surprise.
Did any of you fools see the Duke game last week????
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:15 am
I must apologize to those that have already seen all of this, but I have to post once again because it keeps coming up how great Gailey’s recruits were…
Get ready for some fun!
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:16 am
GDBurdell,
Did you see the Colorado game? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hey guys...
November 24th, 2010
9:16 am
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RexN-eFx
November 24th, 2010
9:16 am
re: wesleywhatwhat
I have given plenty of evidence and have asked plenty of legit questions; despite your name-calling you still haven’t answered any of my questions nor have you PROVEN any of my claims to be unfair to CPJ.
For example please list all the T-Sophs. & RS-Frs. that CPJ has Recruited that are “equals” to the Tr-Sophs. that Chan left behind when he came here, those Tr-Sophs.(or 2nd yr. players) were Nesbitt, Dwyer, Burnett, and Morgan, not to mention others like Tarrant that were RSs.
The harsh fact is that CPJ inherited 2nd-year players that were game ready & game-changers to boot, but he has RECRUITED VERY FEW guys that have been able to make the same sort of impact and become “game-changers” by their 2nd year in the Program.
That Talent-Drain is the problem with GT FB and it all falls on CPJ and his poor Recruiting, blaming “team chemistry” and motivation is just a cop-out by CPJ to deflect blame away from himself.
What say you?
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:17 am
According to scout.com:
Just as a recap, that 2006 class had 14 total players: one 4-star (though he gave up football after one season), 6 3-stars (one of which was sleeper Demaryius Thomas), and seven 2-stars.
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:17 am
The Recruiting Wizard Gailey’s 2005 Class:
20 total players
Two 4-star players (Michael Johnson and Anthony Barnes)
Six 3-star players
Eleven 2-star players
One 0-star player (I didn’t even know that was possible, but apparently it is)
Daniel
November 24th, 2010
9:17 am
Wrex – you have no clue what you’re talking about. A TE on a LB is not a matchup advantage. A TE on a safety is.
And stop capitalizing the “r” in recruiting.
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:18 am
The Recruiting Wizard Gailey’s 2004 Class:
24 total players
One 5-star player (Calvin Johnson)
One 4-star player (Darryl Richard)
Five 3-star players
Seventeen 2-star players
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:18 am
The Recruiting Wizard Gailey’s 2003 Class:
21 total players
Two 4-star players (Kenny Scott and Rashaun Grant, both pretty good players)
Ten 3-star players (including the incomparable Reggie Ball)
Eight 2-star players (though a couple sleepers in Mansfield Wrotto and Phillip Wheeler)
One 0-star player
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:18 am
The Recruiting Wizard Gailey’s 2002 Class:
(this is a real doozy)
12 total players
Two 4-star players (K David Jordan and TE George Cooper)
Four 3-star players
One 2-star player
Five 0-star players (though Chris Reis was a HUGE sleeper here)
Daniel
November 24th, 2010
9:20 am
You’re confusing everyone with facts, Ramble!
GDBurdell
November 24th, 2010
9:21 am
InsectInside:
“PJ holds his players accountable, his coaches accountable and himself accountable.”
Are you smoking crack? Ok, just read PJ’s post-loss interviews (there are several to choose from HAA).
Teck’s season was over in the first quarter of the Clemson game!!
john
November 24th, 2010
9:22 am
Agree with the observations on recruiting. CPJ just can’t make the ’sell’ sitting in a top recruits living room. As bad as Chan was in other aspects, he could still sell his network, i.e., NFL owners, GMs, talent scouts, etc. to a talented, highly rated recruit… this is something that only a X-NFL head coach can do. As a program we come up short in many other sellable points (i.e., highly visible program, pro-style offense, etc). This is where Chan had success (and quite a bit of it considering that we got Calvin, etc). That is why I applauded CPJ’s hiring of Groh – it should pay dividends in recruiting defense and all around. Kudos to CPJ for recognizing a weakness and {hopefully} addressing it. To others… Grohs hiring had nothing to do with his defensive knowledge (coaches that ‘know’ a particular defense are a dime a dozen). Lets see what impact Groh has on recruiting over the next two season before we knock both Groh and CPJ too much… Go Jackets!
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:23 am
UGA’s season was over when Richt cancelled two-a-days when they conflicted with his already-scheduled tanning appointments.
Gold Helmets
November 24th, 2010
9:24 am
Agree with you 404.
Tech’s recruiting is going fine and much of last year’s class was red-shirted.
Defense wins championships and CPJ knows he’s got a problem. Maybe the 3-4 will work, or maybe it won’t. It’s going to take time and with the current players, we may not see improvement until 2012. Maybe move a couple of guys around. Daniel Drummond looks like he would be a heck of a linebacker. I’m sure our players will work hard during the off season on their S&C and get ready for a better season in 2011.
Rex--N--eFx
November 24th, 2010
9:24 am
re Daniel
Sorry Danny boy, but for the Offense the TE has a much better chance to get open vs. a LB than he does vs. a Safety.
No wonder so many of you GT Fans think CPJ is a genius and are in love with his gimmicky Trip-O Offense.
GT73
November 24th, 2010
9:28 am
To our seniors who have “only one goal left”, check this out:
http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/uga-sees-bowl-as-752293.html
GTfanthatwillnotsupportBewitt
November 24th, 2010
9:28 am
Where did my blog go @9:24
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:30 am
Actually, the players make the mismatches, not the positions they play.
A guy like Vernon Davis is a mismatch vs. almost anyone, cuz he has size and speed.
Defensively, neither a LB like James Harrison nor a S like Troy Polamalu would have problems covering almost any TE (except possibly the aforementioned Davis).
You aren’t half the football genius you THINK you are, rectumaffection.
Paul in RDU
November 24th, 2010
9:32 am
Interesting – we have a guy who has changed his screen name a few times while saying the same thing. Wrex-N-Fx RexN-eFx and Rex–N-eFx
Since after your first post on a page your SN doesn’t change unless you retype it we obviously have a troll in our midst. Wonder what other names he’s used in between those 3 above.
ThatStingHurts
November 24th, 2010
9:36 am
I’m impressed today. Good comments, with facts. Most of the guys with facts that go beyond obvious ESPN remarks know what’s going on. The “Kool Aid” quippers need a job on a 24-hour news network. CPJ knows what he’s doing. I DO wish he’d install a few SHORT PASSES TO A-BACKS instead of the desperate, third-and-long 40-yard flings. And I DO wish Al would blitz more; even Tom Brady is very average when he’s blitzed (the Giants proved that). The O is getting 320 yards per game on the ground. It’s OK. The D needs to be better than ‘09 and ‘10.
DawginLex
November 24th, 2010
9:36 am
I have officially gone on record and predicted a Tech win.
I have been right on the Florida and Auburn games regarding UGA. I predicted losses in both.
I say 43-41 Tech in triple OT.
Enjoy your bowl while I puke up my fried turkey………….
Daniel
November 24th, 2010
9:36 am
Agreed, Ramble except that for the average players, a TE has a significant size advantage vs a safety. Of course, Wrex knows that.
And since when is an old-school offense gimmicky?
Paul in RDU
November 24th, 2010
9:37 am
Other screen names used by the troll
Wrex-NFx Wrex.N.Fx – that makes 7.
I’d guess that there are a couple of more as well apart from these ones that are variations on a theme.
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
9:39 am
Paul,
rectumaffection spends a lot of time at clubs where anonymity is encouraged, so don’t give him a hard time.
DawginLex
November 24th, 2010
9:41 am
wrex nFX,
I guess those Oklahoma and Nebraska teams that used to run for 400 yards a game and won all those titles were one dimensional too?
Yeah, they were horrible.
It’s all about the jimmys and joes a lot more than the x’s and o’s.
Especially on defense, where Tech and UGA lack the personnel to play their new schemes.
You put Johnson’s offense in at UGA 10 years ago and I guarantee you he has more SEC titles and and more wins over Florida than richt has.
Sad reality.
Paul in RDU
November 24th, 2010
9:42 am
DawginLex – You obviously have less faith in UGA than I have in GT. I’d love to see GT win, but I just can’t see it. I agree with you on the points and the over though.
Ramblin Man
November 24th, 2010
9:46 am
This may have already been stated. The 08 recruiting class has very little CPJ recruits on it. If you were a real fan you would know that CPJ was hired well after the season and had little time to recruit and even lost a few during the coaching change. I believe he secured five recruits by the time he came in. Now the 09 and 10 recruits equal 38 of the total roster making his total recruits 43. Out of those 43 4 have left, 1 was kicked off the team and 1 was unable to play this year. This is far below the 60-68 I have read on here. I am not making excuses for the the lack of effort for this team or CPJ, just stating you should get your facts straight. Now if this team continues to play like this I agree it’s time for a change, but give the man atleast two more seasons.
Rex--iN--eFx
November 24th, 2010
9:49 am
re: Paul in RDU
What I do with my Screen names is out of necessity.
Roberson has said in the past that posts were dropped because of using words that the filters would not allow, but ever since I started changing my screen mane I haven’t nay problems with “clean posts” being dropped for no reason.
It seems as if Roberson were censoring “certain posters” that might give honest assessments of CPJ and don’t look at the GT FB Program thru “Yellow Jacket Colored Glasses”, henceforth referred to as YJCGs.
GT Jake-99
November 24th, 2010
9:50 am
DawginLex, you’re nuts.
If it weren’t for a lucky 79 TD pass and pick we LOSE AT HOME TO DUKE!!!
I’m going to the game, and expect lots of pain for over 3 hours.
GT 13 UGA 57
Ramblin Man
November 24th, 2010
9:51 am
Rambleon84,
I agree with you on Chris “torpedo” Ries, I loved watching him on the flats and who ever thought when he was recruited he would be making an impact in the NFL. He is the very definition of sleeper.
DawginLex
November 24th, 2010
9:51 am
I have a lot of faith in our offense.
I think Grantham is a good coordinator.
We don’t have the personnel to run the 3-4 or to stop the option.
Our best defensive player is a rush end who specializes in sacking the QB facing an offense that may not have to throw a pass.
We won last year because Weston, Owens and Adkins owned the middle of the line and took the fullback out of the game.
They are in the NFL now.
43-41 Tech triple OT
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
9:54 am
Ramble, or should I address you as paranoid schizo? I have been a fan of pro football for many years and since the the 3-4 defense has primarily been used in the NFL I do have some insight. The most difficult part of switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 is having the guts to go thru a roster overhaul. In short, it take considerable time to get it right. The defense has to be built from the inside out. First, the most important player in the 3-4 is the nose guard because he will have to disrupt and collapse the pocket interfering with the guards ability to get to the inside linebackers. Thats the first key, the linebackers are the playmakers but only because they are allowed to run free and not have to fight thru blocking. Bama won a national championship with this defense but not until they went the JUCO route and brought in the 370 terence cody( remember that guy?). Where is our terrence cody? Secondly, staying on the DL, your defensive ends need to be much bigger and more physical run stoppers than the the typical pass rushing 4-3 defensive ends. The ends must hold the point of attack so the speedy playmaking OLB can get around the edge to make the plays. Just like the NT, the DE cannot get pushed around in order for this defense to work. Now, the outside backers have to be big enough to hold up in the run game but also athletic enough to get around the edge and put pressure on the QB. James harrison of the pittsburg steelers is the perfect prototype at 6-0 240 with edge rushing ability. The rest of the defense is pretty much an easier transition as long as your inside backers can move pretty well form sideline to sideline. But overall, the defense takes a huge committment because it can take several years to get the correct personal. So NOW do you see why I am concerned about the defense next season? I hope you do otherwise I would have to question your intellect.
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
9:56 am
personnel.
juvenal
November 24th, 2010
9:57 am
m, never thought i’d say this, but i miss your greyhound vent-this is a “what-have-you-done-4-me-5′-from-now” society, but it is WAY too early to give a long view on CPJ, especially as we are not fully recovered from the recruiting problems o’leary got us into….99, year you graduated or iq?…
Rex.-iN.-eFx
November 24th, 2010
9:57 am
re: Ramblin Man
That is a very weak excuse Ramblin man, almost all HCs in College are hired in December after the season is over, and in many cases those HCs don’t get a mulligan on that first Recruiting Class.
Some examples are Chizik(sp?) over at Auburn, Saban at Bama, Meyer at Florida, and Mullen at Miss. St., all of those guys Recruited pretty well for that 2-month time frame and the Results have been evident at those programs.
Even if you give CPJ a break on that first Recruiting Class, he still has no excuse for his Tr-sophs. & RS-Frs., the players that are in their 2nd year in the Program, when CPJ came to GT he had big-timers that were in their 2nd yr. in the Program (Dwyer,Nesbitt, et al) and yet NONE/FEW of his own 2nd year Recruits are as good as the 2nd-yr. Recruits that he inherited when he got to GT.
Now try and make an excuse for those facts?
destin dawg
November 24th, 2010
10:02 am
no defense…. unless the Dawgs fumble.. they should never have to punt…. Johnson can not recruit… but he didn’t have to a Navy and Ga. Southern…. at GT its hard to recruit… tough academics…kids don’t want to go.. stuck in metro Atl.. crime… drugs… muggers…few Asian girls. .. no fun ???? Go Dawgs beat tec !!!!!!
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
10:08 am
“astute observer,”
Thanks for explaining to everyone what we already knew…what a 3-4 already consists of. You still did not address why GEORGIA TECH’s defense will not improve next year.
NO mention of any of OUR players.
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
10:16 am
Regardless of whether we have the correct personnel (and that is certainly debatable, as TJ Barnes and JC Lanier are both upward of 320 pounds for the nose tackle; Cross looks like a natural at DE and he’s only a RS freshman and Peters has one more year of eligibility at the other DE; Attaochu has been impressive as a true freshman at OLB), it is reasonable to believe that the same guys with extra experience will improve when they’ve had a very short time in a particular system.
There is no reasonable explanation for saying the defense will not improve next season.
juvenal
November 24th, 2010
10:18 am
rex, it’s called”growing up”(you might want to try it)-19 y/o’s vs. 21y/o’s is big boys vs. young men………
RambleOn84
November 24th, 2010
10:20 am
And are you actually comparing a coach’s recruiting abilities at Tech versus at Florida, Alabama, or Auburn?
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
10:24 am
Ramble, i very seriously doubt you could have explained a 3-4 defense. Secondly, I think I touched on the reasons why GT defense won’t improve much next year. But if you don’t get it I will try to go over it once again. First, the long transition period (ie, more than one year). Secondly, the most important position is a terrence cody, casey hampton type nose. Where is our Terrence cody? Our DL has been dominated physically this year by bigger stronger lines. Therefore, i don’t see a magical development into a physical 3 man front next season. PJ’s first 2 recruiting classes were based on a 4-3 defense and not a 3-4. Geez, do I need to go on or do you not see that this is going to take considerable time? Please tell me you understand the logic here pal. When Josh McDaniels took over the broncos they switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and this is year two and they are still struggling big time. I don’t have much hope for next season just because we simply don’t have the personnel to run the defense yet. Get it?
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
10:29 am
One more thing, it takes more than just a big body to play the nose in a 3-4. That guy has to have the right mental fortitude to play the nose. A 3-4 NT gets a physical beating and must be one tough S.O.B as well a being a strong pile driver. Even NFL guys reject playing this position because they know it takes a lot of toughness without any glory. Albert Haynesworth I’m talking about you.
Recks-.-nEffect
November 24th, 2010
10:39 am
Still unfairly censoring people’s posts, huh?
ga tech 92
November 24th, 2010
10:41 am
We need an unconventional offense to work magic with smoke and mirrors. If you don’t agree, then tell me the three times, in the history of the Earth, that GT had a higher ranked recruiting class than UGA. When the reality is that you’ll have lesser talent, then you have to be unconventional. It’s apples and oranges. CPJ is going to tend to attract slightly less ‘regarded’ talent than did Gailey, because he runs an unconventional offense. It is what it is. We can’t have it both ways. Either we are ‘conventional’ with inferior talent, or we are ‘unconventional’ with inferior talent. You cannot beat conventional with lesser talent over time. Someone mentioned service academy’s, as if that is a negative. There are a lot of similarities, in terms of small fan base, less exceptions for jocks, etc. Face it, we are in a lot of ways like a service academy. We are a little underdog, who has to be creative and take chances on guys like CPJ. He won MORE games than anyone EVER at GT his first two years………and you turn on him in year three….really? Can we have some patience and perspective????? The reality is we will NEVER consistently beat a “Football Factory” like UGA, like Miami, like FSU, but that’s OK…we aren’t built to do it…it’s not a ‘failure’ of the coach. I’ll take CPJ’s hard reality…I’ll take his un-politically correct answers and calling out people. I’ll take 3 star recruits, instead of 3 and occational 4 star guys, because CPJ has shown he will win with less talent than the opposition everywhere he as been……..including GT. One down year, does not a failed coach make. Look at Hewitt by comparison, he has had what ONE winning season in over ten years!?!? You wanna rag on someone, then there’s your guy. Don’t rag on CPJ for being the winningest coach in GT history his first two years, then having a down year on year three. Gailey never had an up year even once…and people call for him? I can’t help but guess that people who rag on CPJ either (a) don’t get the big picture of where GT is in the football landscape or (b) is a UGA fan just muddying the waters.
Techmate
November 24th, 2010
10:50 am
Bottom line, you UGA heads, you are supposed to beat Tech every year. You out recruit Tech every year, hell, you out recruit almost everyone every year and every year you have to cry on Tech websites about how great you are – or are suppose to be. You guys have coaching problems of your own. Back to your dog houses. You guys are all bark. As my high school coach used to say “An empty wagon makes a lot of noise.”
dumb dawg fan
November 24th, 2010
10:51 am
Want some fries with that order, sir?
So if my sister and I have kids would they call me Uncle Dad?
ga tech 92
November 24th, 2010
10:51 am
Wrex.N.Fx – I just read one of your posts where you mention TE, jump balls, etc. What your saying is correct, in that ‘jump balls’ aren’t consistent and ‘TE vs LB’ is a good offensive match-up. What your talking about though is what ‘conventional’ offenses do. CPJ doesn’t, hasn’t, and isn’t running a conventional offense. His offense has worked every where he has been, including GT (see the winningest coach the first two years at GT since the creation of the Earth and you’ll see a picture of CPJ). You want him to run something more conventional, but he wasn’t hired to do that, he hasn’t won doing that, and he isn’t going to win doing that. You cannot beat a conventional football team, by also being conventional with inferior talent. GT will always ‘bee’ the underdog in terms of talent. That’s been the case for what, 30-40-forever years? His offense doesn’t use a TE. I do wonder sometimes why we don’t throw more short passes, but I’ve seen him do little quick screens, little short hits over the middle more this year than last. His offense is setup to get short to medium gains on the ground, where the ‘jump ball’ thing is just to keep the defense honest and make the safteys stay back, in my opinion. The point is, you are comparing an conventional team with superior talent’s style of play, against an underdog with inferior talent who is doing something outside the box and unconventional.
BTW – when I play with GT on xbox, etc, I immediately recruit TE’s and change the offense completely………but when you play on xbox…you aren’t dealing with a reality that you cannot truely expect to ever out recruit the factories. They have vastly more resources, more friendly majors, more jock exceptions for admission, more girls, more fans, more TV, it is what it is. NOT being a football factory isn’t a problem, except at football games. GT’s priority clearly has never been trying to be a football factory…thus…here we are….not a football factory.
Reckx-nEffect
November 24th, 2010
10:52 am
re: ga tech 92
Please explain Stanford, Boise St. and Oregon?
Standford’s Academics are clearly better than GT’s and I’m a GT Alum, and Oregon & Boise(Idaho) are outposts with some of the crappiest HS FB in the entire USA.
GT is located in Downtown Atl. in the state with Top-5 HS FB each and every yr., oh and CFB is roughly 2/3 African-American in what is arguably the best City in America for African-Americans and yet you want me to believe that GT cannot find 20-25 good FB players each yr. that can also Major in Mgt. or Econ.
For $2.2+ Million per yr. CPJ should be a better Recruiter.
DawginLex
November 24th, 2010
11:01 am
Here are the recruiting issues in my opinion.
Academics
Perception that the ACC is not as good in football as the SEC
Not tweaking the offense a little bit to allow for the use of more wideouts and a tight end. You can still run a option offense but put in the added options of thrwoing to multiple wideouts and a tight end and this offense would be crazy good.
He needs another class or two to get defensive personnel suited to the 3-4.
ga tech 92
November 24th, 2010
11:04 am
Reckx-nEffect – Yeah, those three schools have been good LATELY, no doubt. GT was good in the what 20’s. Landscapes change. Politics change. There are a LOT of dynamics other than the coach. My point is “cpj is not the problem”. Logically if he were the problem, then other coaches would have out recruited the other major in state football team…at least a few times in the history of the Earth right? Twice?…Once?….oh wait….no one has EVER done it?…wow…umm…so your points seem valid…however history indicates there is more of a problem than CPJ at work, since NO ONE has EVER been able to do what your understating. (1) CPJ has won more his first two years than anyone ever at GT, yet that’s not good enough for you…and (2) NO ONE has EVER out recruited UGA…ever…yet you think CPJ should recruit ‘better’…(3) the kind of coach who could get SLIGHTLY higher regarded recruits (yet still inferior to UGA) is the kind of coach who would be running something more conventional (which appeals to more recruits). We can’t win on recruiting. We never have and never will. We have to win with smoke and mirrors and a no-nonsense coach who offends people by telling it like it is. Do you think maybe some of the recruits your talking about end up at other SEC schools? Do you think maybe the SEC is VASTLY more attractive to the average stud jock? It would be to me and I’m GT fan to the bone. You gotta see the forest for the trees sometimes…again..CPJ won more games than anyone ever has at GT in his first two years…he beat UGA, beat FSU for the first time in the ACC ever, did a lot of firsts and now you wanna see him in a negative light for being the same guy. I admit it’s frustrating to be a GT fan, if you like winning all the time. I feel the same way dude! GT is not setup to be a football powerhouse, because a lot of important things have changed in the landscape of politics, ATL, the South, education, TV, and a lot of other things….none of which a GT football coach can control. All I would ask is, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water…don’t miss the forest for the trees…and let’s at the very least let CPJ’s contract play out. We’ll know a lot more by the time his contract ends. If you want to FIRE someone, then FIRE Hewitt, because his f’ing contract won’t ever end otherwise. He’s the fish we should be focused on firing.
Junior's Grill
November 24th, 2010
11:04 am
Johnson’s true recruits are either Freshmen, red-shirt Freshmen, or Sophmores. Al Groh has yet to complete a recruiting cycle for the defense. Recruiting and development of players for a system of offense or defense takes more than two recruiting cycles and off-seasons. Football is not fast-food, where most of the UGAg trash works. These are the same folks on the Georgia blogs calling for Richt’s head. Should be an interesting night in Athens Saturday, between two sub-par squads. I’ll wager we won’t be flipping to another channel.
dumb dawg fan
November 24th, 2010
11:04 am
Apparently, “r*ed p*anties” is a blocked term on the blog. Really sleazy way of showing dawg bias AJC.
HenryCountyGT
November 24th, 2010
11:08 am
The same problem that Paul Johnson faces is faced my Mark Richt and every other college football coach.
Today’s players don’t have the work ethic that, at one time, was considered standard. They are spoon-fed pu$$ies.
My wife and I went to a dinner party. I got a chance to chat with a former Tech player.
He played for Chan Gailey and Paul Johnson. I asked him to compare the two coaches.
This is what he said:
Chan Gailey is a really nice guy. I liked him.
Paul Johnson is mean. He made us practice harder and do a bunch of extra things.
Folks, this is straight from one of the horses mouths.
Any kid would say he’d love an National Championship ring and to excel in the NFL. However, fewer and fewer are willing to do what it takes to get there.
These clowns go to school free of charge.
go now
November 24th, 2010
11:09 am
Bring back Chan, please move ot Buffalo and take the rest of the UGA morons with you including Paddy, Delbert and the rest of these people who think they are the authority of GT
HenryCountyGT
November 24th, 2010
11:11 am
Test. Maybe this won’t get blocked.
ga tech 92
November 24th, 2010
11:13 am
side note: With the state giving the already over-rich UGA funding to do Engineering…with GA State having an ATL college team (which doesn’t have to take GT calculus)…with so many pro sports to take the limited casual fan dollars…I personally see GT as gradually continuing to degrade in football to something more like a service academy over time. I just don’t see how we can ever be much more than a flash in the pan. If you were a stud jock, would you rather take really hard classes and live downtown, or would you rather take easier (Ga State) classes and live down town? If you were a stud jock and you want to be at a football factory, then you’ll pick UGA. In either case, none of this stuff HELPS GT get better over time, they only serve to create more challenges. Maybe we should just fold up the tents and build a parking lot? Could you imagine if you graduated from Duke and you LOVED college football. You would constantly be trying to figure out a way to get your football team to somehow be ‘better’, yet you wouldn’t succeed over the long haul. Football isn’t THE priority at either GT or Duke (at least Duke gets the relief of being a consistent basketball team) and no amount of blogging is going to change it for either school. (No, I’m not saying GT is as hard as Duke, but there are more similiarities than there are between GT and UGA…in terms of what that make one a football factory and what doesn’t.)
HenryCountyGT
November 24th, 2010
11:16 am
Paul Johnson, Mark Richt, and every other coach face the same issue:
Today’s players have *zero* work ethic.
I chatted with a player who played under Chan Gailey and Paul Johnson. This is how he compared the coaches.
“Chan Gailey is a nice guy. I liked him.”
“Paul Johnson is mean. He made us practice harder and do a bunch of extra stuff.”
GTSteve
November 24th, 2010
11:17 am
I know others have posted this already, but why is Tech talking about the bowl game already, when you are 6-5 or 5-6 or anything close to a crap season, your most important game is the rivalry game…..If Tech can find a way to win Saturday, I will consider this a successful season…If CPJ doesn’t think this is a “BIG” game, he needs to come with me to lunch Sunday at my Mom’s house, with all those UGA fans, he will understand then.
GO JACKETS
November 24th, 2010
11:18 am
This may not be the season to remember but so glad CPJ is our coach..Nothing better to watch than the A or B back breaking out and heading for the end zone, love the triple option.. There are so many coaches in football that do not have the character, many of them in the south eastern cheaters and those like Pelini showing his @__, Kelly who ups and leaves an undefeated team for Notre Shame before their bowl game..
Having said that I will say this and do not expect anyone to agree with me from the GT family, but disappointed that the juniors, Morgan,Thomas, Dwyer and Burnett left. Why? Because Nesbitt, Allen, Jefferson, Reese, Roddy Jones and the rest of the starters deserved them to stay. They were players also with character. You could have waited another year, all of you. And do not want to hear about the lockout NFL argument. Nobody is going to keep the NFL out too long in this country.
GTSteve
November 24th, 2010
11:19 am
I hope the GT line blocks this weekend as well as the AJC is blocking posts
GTSteve
November 24th, 2010
11:19 am
AHH, got one through
Okeefe/Bob
November 24th, 2010
11:19 am
My My such ignorance do I read on this blog.Everyone was happy with CPJ the last two years–oh but I forget,we aren’t going to win 10 games this year so the rats jump ship with the first sign of a storm.I’ve watched GT football for more years than most of you and I can tell you he is the tonic we need.He is going to win and win big.Just quit the b—-ing and keep a little faith.
ga tech 92
November 24th, 2010
11:25 am
Okeefe/Bob – you’re the man dude…well said
Doug Roberson
November 24th, 2010
11:26 am
That was blocked because it was being used in ways that were pornographic
HenryCountyGT
November 24th, 2010
11:27 am
@ GTSteve
The AJC is running a 3-4 defense. 3 or 4 of our posts get through.
@ GO JACKETS
I miss those guys too but they have their own lives to consider. If they stayed the extra year and got hurt. No NFL.
Spike
November 24th, 2010
11:29 am
Doug Roberson.. GATA!!
hey Are You Serious
November 24th, 2010
11:32 am
Enter your comments here
doug is painfully obvious
November 24th, 2010
11:34 am
that you block more trash talking gt fans than you do mutts.
GTSteve
November 24th, 2010
11:35 am
@Doug ???????
Doug Roberson
November 24th, 2010
11:36 am
the filters cut out certain things, as I’ve said. Don’t say those things, and you won’t get blocked.
4th and Long Gone
November 24th, 2010
11:37 am
CPJ isn’t blaming the players and isn’t throwing his players under the bus. He is saying that it is his job to motivate them, but at times that can be the hardest part of the job. Each team is different and what motivates one team doesn’t necessarily motivate another.
Yes, recruiting is important, but not the most important thing. When UGA promoted Ray Goff instead of Erk Russell, they did so because Ray Goff was the superstar recruiter. I think they probably would have been better off hiring the better coach instead of the better recruiter.
CPJ just tells it like he sees it. He doesn’t sugar coat anything for the media or make his statements more politically correct.
GT is in good hands with CPJ, so everyone just needs to lay off. It is probably just the UGA fans posing as Tech fans writing all the negative stuff. CPJ cares about winning, so he will not settle for less. That doesn’t mean he will go undefeated every year, but it does mean he won’t stop trying. There is not a better coach for GT than CPJ.
GTSteve
November 24th, 2010
11:38 am
Okay, I didn’t think I said anything too bad…sorry
Rex---Nfx
November 24th, 2010
11:43 am
re: HenryCountyGT
If CPJ makes em do all that extra stuff, then WHY isn’t his Team more precise and error-free on Saturday afternoons when it really counts.
If they’re doing all that “extra stuff” and they still fail on Saturdays against “real teams”, then the Players must not be very good OR CPJ’s Schemes must not be very good OR a combination of both.
You can’t do all that extra stuff and still play sloppy come game-time.
Thanks for that info, now that we know the Players are working extra hard, that helps us narrow down where the Problems with GT’s FB Program really lie (hint, hint the HC).
GT
November 24th, 2010
11:45 am
The Georgia high school student is not motivated. Strange ,but these players show up to college not motivated to study, not motivated to behave and in Johnson’s case not motivated to play football. Exceptions academically are being made for almost the entire team at Tech and Georgia. The state can barely field a student smart enough to get in the front door of these universities, so it shouldn’t be a surprise this walking brain dead we are letting in the back can’t produce. University of Georgia suffers the same as we do, it is about to lose Richt his job, the school its reputation. I think we may start looking at better students at Tech results be damned, because it is being damn anyway. I truly do not understand why the papers don’t call these players out more before the big problems occur. They didn’t turn thugs over night, it has been and will be there for any working class press member to see. Even at the high school level stand on a side line of a game and listen to what is said and done, by players and coaches. When I was in high school back in the 70s I got thrown out of a game for cussing in the huddle, by a ref, now the priest on the sideline is leveling everybody with the F bomb. Ealey had a reputation as this kind of personality coming into Georgia, spitting on people, junk like that, then Spikes pokes his eyeballs which I imagine he deserved and Barnhart acts like we talking about angels. Our state is raising thugs. We need to fix it, or it will fix itself and these kids won’t get a chance at a college education, and maybe that is only right the way they treat it. We are the dumbest state education wise in the country. We all share a little guilt here, but stop letting these punks in our colleges, they are compromises what little we have to work with now.
Ramblin Man
November 24th, 2010
11:46 am
Rex,
As I stated I was not making excuses in the first place. Now I will say that there are a few players that are making a difference. Finch is looking pretty good on the line. Orwin Smith makes an impact in almost every game. Defense has some playmakers, but they are learning a new system and that is tough for freshman or senior. It is dumb to mention players like Dwyer, Thomas, Burnett, and Morgan because special players are hard to come by.
Student Athlete
November 24th, 2010
11:48 am
This team is a direct reflection of CPJ; he could careless about throwing a player under the bus and making smart allelic public comments about players; CPJ always speaks in a “US” “THEM” fashion to separate himself from the team after a loss, he is a “power junkie” that cares about nothing but himself; it is clear to me that the players have adopted the same attitude as their coach.
Rex.eN.fx
November 24th, 2010
11:50 am
It seems those filters are blocking certain E-mail addresses so that they can censor certain “honest posters” that won’t parrot the Company Line that CPJ is feeding to the GT Fanbase.
They are also blocking certain screen names also, for the same reason.
Posting are being blocked and it has nothing to do with banned words.
WHITE and GOLD
November 24th, 2010
11:53 am
Why don’t all you guys who are claiming that Saturday is going to be a blowout call up CPJ and the players and tell them to not even show up… Why bother right? You fairweather fans make me sick… Yeah I remembr an ACC championship team that was supposed to blow UGAg out last year… and look what happened. True fans don’t write off their team before they have even stepped on the field… Go cheer for boise state if your looking for a bandwagon to hop on to. THWG.
Rex.iN.effx
November 24th, 2010
11:54 am
re: Ramblin Man
Isn’t that why CPJ gets paid the big bucks?
Experience is not the true reason as you have outlined above, the true reason is finding Elite levels of talent, not waiting until we have RS-Srs. on the O-line which is what he has been telling his fanbase. (we didn’t have RS-Srs. on the O-line in 08 & 09)
When HCs are deceptive on issues like that, it raises a red flag for me.
Doug, is there a list
November 24th, 2010
11:54 am
of the seven (probably more) things that will trip the blocker.
I’m real sure a post of mine was blockrd that had no resemblance of porn…
FURMAN PALADIN DEATH DEALER
November 24th, 2010
11:55 am
VRTECHFAN:
THANKS FOR STAYING WITH YOUR TEAM THROUGH THICK AND THIN….GEORGIA AND TECH HAVE WAY TOO MANY BANDWAGONEERS, THEY ONLY SUPPORT WHEN THINGS ARE GOING GREAT AND CRY LIKE A BUNCH OF LITTLE BABIES WHEN THINGS AREN’T…..THEIR CHARACTER IS SHOWN IN SOME OF THESE BLOGS, AND I WOULD HATE TO BE IN A FOX HOLE WITH THEM PROTECTING MY BACK…..
GT
November 24th, 2010
11:56 am
The state of Georgia cannot educate it’s kids. This is what is showing up in our colleges. These kids that don’t deserve to go to college in the first place are a case example of what failure is. Both schools in this state are suffering from it. Motivation, not lack of IQ is the cancer of this state, has been since I can remember and will be. No body is holding the school systems accountable. No one is holding parents accountable. It use to just reach the city kids now it is in the country. When you try to understand what has cause this economic turn down put that in your formula.
roughrider
November 24th, 2010
12:05 pm
As a UGA grad, I always pull for Tech when they are not playing UGA. I pull for Georgia Southern also.With that said, I’m surprised at Coach Johnson placing the blame on his players all the time. When he was a Southern and Navy, we never saw these types of comments in the media.
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
12:14 pm
GT, you’re blaming the economic downturn on college kids? This economic collapse had been brewing for years and is hardly the fault of anyone under the age of 40.
juvenal
November 24th, 2010
12:26 pm
so what do Stanford s-a’s major in?
Rex---Nfx = mutt fan
November 24th, 2010
12:34 pm
Enter your comments here
GT
November 24th, 2010
12:37 pm
I was around 40 years ago. A kid that couldn’t read or write couldn’t get into college, a lot that could didn’t go either. There were that many colleges so the deploma met something. Now days, in this state, and the record shows it, we are walking illiterate, yet we call ourselves college students, even graduates, a lie. In a economy same as a football team someone has to produce. If you are putting a overweight, another problem we didn’t have so much of 40 years ago, idiot in a man’s job, next thing you know judges are getting shot while the idiot is out getting his idiot boss breakfast, planes are flying into building while low level unmotivated security at airports fraternize and economies waiting for the next man to carry their load while we all make big paycheck collapse. Johnson did have these problems at Navy or Georgia Southern, they didn’t care about football enough to compromise what little education they had ot offer. On this stage we compromise, and it will be the end of a lot more than football before it is over.
GT, here is a suggestion
November 24th, 2010
12:52 pm
Change your name!
the real Old Gold
November 24th, 2010
12:56 pm
Wrex-N-Fx is the best thing wriiten ever on this post and completely true!
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
12:56 pm
GT, I don’t disagree about colleges today being diploma factories and degree’s being less relevant. But our economic situation is at the feet of a much older crowd. I don’t see any college age kids in congress.
4 Jacks
November 24th, 2010
1:14 pm
Garcia, you are an idiot and a troll…enough said…CPJ will be just fine and in two years this will not even be a blimp on the radar.
GT
November 24th, 2010
1:17 pm
Here is a suggestion. We lack character. No one wants to call anyone out for it so it just keeps on getting worse. We need a lot more Johnson types, and a lot more people trying to reach a bar of accomplishment, instead of motivation problems. A man that has character or a team will be a valued commodity in this day and time.
Ramblin Man
November 24th, 2010
1:19 pm
Rex,
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I do not blame CPJ for the defensive problems, that is Groh’s problem to fix. Now if Groh cannot fix them then I frimly believe he will go the way of Wommack. I do agree with you that there is no excuse for not being able to get these kids more fired up. I don’t believe that Gailey was a better recruiter he got lucky with some, but he never recruited a full good team he had good players from time to time that were rarely in the same class. The main problem CPJ is going to have when recruiting is it GT. I love GT but we are never going to be able to recruit 4 or 5 top players in any partucular position and look for atleast two of them to pan out. Most other schools can recruit say 3 what look to be really good LT in a particular recruiting year and only one of them will really work out. GT on the other hand may get one and then a nobody and pray one of them can play.
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10-0 PAC10 > 11-0 SEC
November 24th, 2010
1:44 pm
Ramblin Man
How do you explain Stanford’s success?
done for me lately?
November 24th, 2010
1:56 pm
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY SOCIETY! I”M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE HUMANS ARE GOING DOWN THE SH_TTER! GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE. YES, I ONLY TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
MiamiJacket
November 24th, 2010
1:57 pm
The problem with Tech this year and the reason that we are not having success is that we have become completely one dimensional on offense. I said it last year and I stand by my statement that the loss of Demaryius Thomas has hurt the team more than any other player. Any one dimensional offense can be beaten which is what we are currently seeing. We’d don’t need to put up big passing stats, but we at least need to have the threat of being able to pass. Nesbitt has regressed as a passer and Washington as we all know is a redshirt freshman. Defenses have zero respect for our ability to complete passes and have been pulling safeties up in run support and have corners typically crashing the line after the snap. Until, we regain at least a passing threat, we will continue to struggle offensively.
Defensively, we’ve just got to get bigger up front, faster and more athletic at the linebacker positions. You can play defense all right being either small or slow but not both. And what I’ve seen the last couple of years, our defense has looked small and probably as slow as any defense I can remember at Tech. Our LBs block themselves out of the play half of the time. I am starting to wonder if not practicing against effective power I and passing teams is keeping our D from getting any better. Maybe we should recruit a 3 star drop back passer qb just to run scout team for our D during the week because they look completely lost come game time.
gt84
November 24th, 2010
2:02 pm
as coach pj said before ” its never as good as it seems when you win and its never as bad as it seems when you lose” of cousre we are having a down year but coach pj earned for us to cut him some slack for what he did the 1st 2 years if in 2-3 years we are still average then then we should be concerned!! and for the people that think we will get blown out by ga yall are idiots, ga is 5-6 we are 6-5 both playing a easy schedule, this will be a shootout ,on paper ga should win with their talent but who knows stranger things have happened, the last 2 years the team soppose to win did not.
i like my team-tech to play its best game of the year tech wins 38-35
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
2:13 pm
Sure, a three star drop back passer is going to come to Tech and give up his dream of playing college quarterback to run our scout team. If we are going to run an effective 3-4 then it all starts up front. We have got to have bigger and stronger bodies on the DL or it will never work. Period. I did not like this move to a 3-4 defense because it would have been much easier personnel wise to build an effective defense at TECH employing a 4-3.
gt84
November 24th, 2010
2:17 pm
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gt84
November 24th, 2010
2:21 pm
again, all bloggers please read ,
as coach pj said before ” its never as good as it seems when you win and its never as bad as it seems when you lose” of cousre we are having a down year but coach pj earned for us to cut him some slack for what he did the 1st 2 years if in 2-3 years we are still average then then we should be concerned!! and for the people that think we will get blown out by ga yall are idiots, ga is 5-6 we are 6-5 both playing a easy schedule, this will be a shootout ,on paper ga should win with their talent but who knows stranger things have happened, the last 2 years the team soppose to win did not.
i like my team-tech to play its best game of the year tech wins 38-35
GTSteve
November 24th, 2010
2:28 pm
I hope you are correct
Tony
November 24th, 2010
2:46 pm
Being a coach is like being a parent. Each child is different and the way that you motivate, challenge and discipline each child is different. The point being, that the way Coach Johnson motivated last year’s team obviously hasn’t worked for this years team. Maybe he could find a last minute way to motivate the players before the game on Saturday. Do it for Neshbitt; somthing, anything!
retired engineer
November 24th, 2010
2:56 pm
Several comments pro and con. Guess that is good.
This is a repeat but seems appropriate now. As a young engineer, I thought I knew much. As I entered the workforce and get really involved with engineering, I realized quiet quickly that I did not know too much in my own field and in fact, knew very little about others fields.
Perhaps some of these non coach bloggers know a lot about their field but perhaps know little of football coaching. Is that possible?
I personally do not like the 3/4 type D either. But I’m not sure that all we need is one very large guy up front.
dyed in the wool GT fan
November 24th, 2010
2:59 pm
Several commenters have said CPJ is not an effective recuiter – I’m not so sure. Is it even possible to recruit against the higher profile programs in this area with the additional challenge of more rigorous academics? Those gigantic linemen at UM are great football players, but could they pass a college level Algebra course ? Maybe so and maybe not, but why should they risk it ?
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
3:04 pm
The very large guy up front is not all you need but that is the first building block to the 3-4. And it will not succeed without that big strong NT. The philosophy of this defense is that you have big strong guys up front that hold the point of attack, in essence shielding the 4 linebackers, so they can run freely to make plays. Thats the 3-4 in a nutshell.
wesleywhatwhat
November 24th, 2010
3:31 pm
“Paul in RDU”
i agree that 2009 and 2008 were great seasons on the flats, but certainly NOT the two best seasons in the past 50.
going 11-0-1 in 1990 to claim a national title has to be the best season since 1952.
with 2009’s 11-3 maybe second behind that.
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
3:54 pm
Wesley, I concur, the 1990 season was without question the banner season of the last nearly 60 years. The 2009 season was certainly a good one but losing to UGA and then to Iowa back to back certainly took some of the shine of an otherwise successful campaign. Sorry but 1990 was special and 2009 did not surpass that team.
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
3:55 pm
off
Paul in RDU
November 24th, 2010
5:26 pm
wesleywhatwhat – I need to clarify my post. By 2 best seasons, I really meant best 2 year record. GT won 20 games and a conference championship in 08-09
GT may have gone 11-0-1 in 1990, but they were 7-4 in 1989 (no bowl game) and 8-5 in 1991. The 1991 season was particularly frustrating – I was at the Kick Off Classic against PSU and they killed us.
macrotech
November 24th, 2010
5:32 pm
I laugh at anyone that claims to be a Tech fan and wishes Chan Gailey would come back…seriously?! I know many brilliant and good bulldawg fans, but even THEY would laugh at the uga fan that hides behind such stupid statements! ANYONE that thought that we’d just adopt this new defensive philosophy and nail it the first year has never played football. While I was hopeful at the beginning of the season, I knew it would be a tough season…granted, I didn’t think we’d be where we are at this point in the season. I believe, that before he’s done at Tech, CPJ is going to do something MUCH more special than winning the ACCC… I remain optimistic! GO TECH!!!
GT Fan...
November 24th, 2010
5:36 pm
Based on what I’ve seen this season it’s hard to be overly optimistic about the game on Sat.
I only give the YJs a chance b/c it’s a rivalry game, and, in preperation, they should be able to replicate GA’s D better than GA replicates GT’s O.
GTPak
November 24th, 2010
6:22 pm
Bring back Gif Smith, he is the recruiter that we need.
GT84
November 24th, 2010
6:34 pm
once again as coach pj said before ” its never as good as it seems when you win and its never as bad as it seems when you lose” of cousre we are having a down year but coach pj earned for us to cut him some slack for what he did the 1st 2 years if in 2-3 years we are still average then then we should be concerned!! and for the people that think we will get blown out by ga yall are idiots, ga is 5-6 we are 6-5 both playing a easy schedule, this will be a shootout ,on paper ga should win with their talent but who knows stranger things have happened, the last 2 years the team soppose to win did not.
i like my team-tech to play its best game of the year tech wins 38-35
DawgInDacula
November 24th, 2010
7:02 pm
Let’s stop all this recruiting garbage and what each team has done to date. This is GT – UGA and usually a very emotional, close game. I think UGA has the edge but it’ll be a real battle right down to the last minute of play. I like GT when they play other ACC teams and cheer for them when they win. Let’s just hope for an injury-free game with the best team out front without any help from the zebra squad. Okay?
Big L
November 24th, 2010
7:19 pm
Why can’t CPJ accept that the talent was down this year? Undying belief in the system has clouded this mans vision. You had a bad season because the talent wasn’t there to make the system successful. There is no button to negate those facts. Just like UGA’s was because the coaching was bad. The talent couldn’t overcome that problem. There is no button.
Mr. Tony Geinzer
November 24th, 2010
7:39 pm
Newsflash: Richt will be canned after the loss and I feel Kentucky and Vanderbilt will not be just another game anymore. It would be the South’s Northwestern-Iowa, man.
Manofdawg
November 24th, 2010
7:39 pm
Most tech fans don’t think this game matters. After the loss last year, that’s most of what I read from techies. “This game doesn’t matter. We’re going to the acc chumpionship!”
KimZ'sPackage
November 24th, 2010
7:50 pm
Doug aren’t you a Dawg Grad. and a European Soccer lover? You know Kroy Biermann got a SHOT past my Goalie! HAHAH! I let that one slip. Can’t you just hear the cash register ringing?
unajacket
November 24th, 2010
8:02 pm
I totally agree that PJ is “the” perfect fit for Tech. 2 coach of the year titles back me up. I still can’t fathom why in our 11th game against Duke that we make so many stupid penalties, particularly motion penalties by the offensive line.
Okeefe/Bob
November 24th, 2010
8:16 pm
Ah, astute observer Iguess you are to young to remember the 1952 teamin the last 60 years but I’m not.1990 was a good year indeed but give me the good old days.By the way ,only the older gruop will remember that Coach Dodd ran the “belly” series,otherwise known as a triple option.What goes around comes around.
astute observer
November 24th, 2010
8:33 pm
Yes I am to young to remember the 52 team but I did acknowledge them. Thats why I said “nearly” 60 years. I wasn’t suggesting that the 1990 team was better than the 52 team.
messin with sasquatch
November 24th, 2010
8:36 pm
i hear it’s snowing in colorado, coach rich. this would make a fine place for Christmas with the family. and you would also be near Superman! so maybe now after savin your 2.8 mil for a few years you could rest easier at night.
messin with sasquatch
November 24th, 2010
8:37 pm
and you know, most dog fans look to the game this week as the only thing worth remembering about their season………….
blackprix
November 24th, 2010
9:43 pm
If we can give a less than average coach in Chan Gailey 7 years … we can give a GOOD coach more!!
Paul Johnson doesn’t want 7-8 wins a year, he wants more. That’s the kind of coach that succeeds cause he’s not satisfied with just being in the hunt.
GT fans need to chill … one season doesn’t make the future of this program!
NYJacket
November 24th, 2010
9:57 pm
Wrex-NFx,
If you were coaching, we would not win a game. CPJ has done a great job at Tech and he will continue to be a winner.
If you thinks someone else out there could do better and they would take the Tech job, who is it?
ATLER Ramblin Wreck
November 24th, 2010
10:02 pm
Bring Back Chan??? You need to take your fake ass back to the ugag page and stop acting like a true Tech fan!!!!!!!
Eagledude
November 24th, 2010
10:05 pm
I am a Georgia Southern grad and have followed Georgia Southern football and the option since the mid ’80’s……When GT lost Nesbitt…they lost their only QB with game experience…the key is game experience with the QB and reps, reps and more rep with the option…you have to be patient…GT may have had good recruiting classes but the guys need to get game experience, especially the QB in the option…(look how UGA struggled with a freshman QB this year)…..Paul Johnson is a great coach and Georgia Tech is lucky to have him…you will have to patient with player development..I hope this can reassure some of the Ga Tech fans….good luck…..and Go Jackets!!!!!!!
IveryTheGreat
November 24th, 2010
10:34 pm
Grayson Buzz……at least 80% of the team is CPJ’s players. If you remember with Chan’s players they won 9 games, then the ACC Championship. Now the last Gailey players are either seniors or redshirt Juniors. Don’t forget Nesbitt is a Gailey recruit, and you see the dropoff in offense without him. Derick Morgan, Morgan Burnette, Dwyer, and Baybay were all Gailey recruits. Tell me which one of CPJ’s recruits has any shot at leaving early for the NFL…The down year is not because of lack of leadership…its because we are extremely outfielded in terms of talent.
RamblinGamlin
November 24th, 2010
11:05 pm
DawgInDacula – Sounds good to me, mate. Here’s to a hard-fought, injury-free game with plenty of good-humored, enjoyable pre and post game for the fans. I am looking for a fun evening in Athens and hope my Jackets can pull out a tough W against a team with superior talent. Win or lose, I am excited for a fun afternoon with good banter with the “Dawg” fans. I love “old fashioned hate” week. Still don’t understand why anyone other than the players take the outcome so personal – aren’t they the ones actually deciding the outcome?
dude
November 24th, 2010
11:36 pm
The only reason UGA fans bring up Johnson is because they know that Richt blows c@ck as a coach and gathering from the way he looks I think he might literally like to blow c@ck as well.
dude
November 24th, 2010
11:38 pm
Ivory- You realize that the fact that we went from Nesbitt to a freshman QB might explain why the offense has struggled a little more than recruiting. You really think Washington’s not gona get any better over the next three years?
dude
November 24th, 2010
11:40 pm
Gathering from his name I think that Ivery might like to suck c@ck like Richt…..maybe even with Richt. Uh Ivery? You can tell us. Come on….Cooome OOOnNN
Wrex..-N-..Fx
November 24th, 2010
11:49 pm
re dude
Tevin Washington is a RS-Soph. that was signed in CPJ’s first Recruiting Class, he doesn’t have 3 more years, he has 2 more seasons starting next yr.
TW is in his 3rd year out of HS, other than game experience he won’t get better in terms of being any bigger or faster.
Wrecxs-N-effX
November 25th, 2010
12:03 am
re: NYJacket
Name one marquee win that CPJ has had this season.
UNC had 12 starters out, other than that CPJ has only beaten teams like UVA. Wake, and Dook, to go along with crappy Teams like MTSU and SC State.
Yes, NYJacket, If I ewere GT’s HC, even I could win those meaningless Games like CPJ has, he gets paid $2.3+ Million to win the big Games and he hasn’t.
Do you REALLY think that a “Great Genius HC” would lose to Randy Shannon, Turner Gill, and Daboo Swinney all in the SAME SEASON, a season in which CPJ had 15-16 Starters back from last yrs. ACC-Title Team?
The fact is NYJacket, is that CPJ has done a horrible job this season, and it will get worse next season as the “Talent Drain” in GT’s FB Program worsens.
Bill Curry
November 25th, 2010
12:03 am
All this talk about CPJ having 3 recruiting classes under his belt is hogwash. The 2008 class was recruited by Gailey, and a couple of key recruits (passing QB) were lost. NONE of those guys were actually recruited by CPJ. He’s had TWO actual recruiting classes, ‘09 and ‘10. Most of the 2010 recruits are RS’s – this is a rebuilding year. Get over it and stick with the guy who has proven to be a winner everywhere he’s been. As far as passing, I love Joshua as a leader – nothin’ but a winner – but he did not have the passing skills he was touted to have coming out of HS. Once we see Washington and Synjyn Days, who are true multiple threats, this offense will rise to the top of the BCS. Have you forgotten that with all the trouble this season we still lead the nation in rushing? The problem is twofold – Defense (give Groh another year) and leadership – let CPJ’s (real) recruits become the Jr and Sr leaders on the team. We just happened to be blessed with some high caliber athletes left by Chan Gailey who gave us the success of the last two years. STOP the UGAG mentality of blaming the coach, aren’t you better educated than them?
Real Dawg Now
November 25th, 2010
12:13 am
Running that mickey mouse offense, johnson can’t win with his own recruits. Mark it down—UGA wins this game in a blowout.
WrecxN-EffX..
November 25th, 2010
12:25 am
re: blackprix
Although GT FB is “stuck” with CPJ, my own internal fears are that if we give him the same 7 years that we gave Chan (I’m no fan of him either), that our Talent Level will be so depleted and so stocked with undersized Recruits that cannot play in a Traditional Offense that we won’t be able to hire a decent HC because that person will look at our Roster and see no TEs, no WRs worth anything, no passing QBs, no OLs that have the size & skill to become pass blockers.
After 7 yrs. of CPJ Recruiting the only guy that we can think about hiring is the guy at Navy that runs the same “gimmicky, smoke-and-mirrors” System that CPJ does.
Wake’s Jim Grobe sold his Fanbase that load-o-crap about massive Red-Shirting being the key to their success and the last 2 seasons Wake has been 5-7 and are 2-9 now & likely to be 2-10 this Season.
The GT Fanbase needs to “Wake-up” before it is too late and we are where Wake is now after their ACC-CG win, TALENT is what is important in CFB, especially at the BCS Level and TALENT is what trumps gimmicky crap like “we’re RS-ing all of our Recruits and just wait till the RSs are ready to play”.
You never hear SEC Schools brag about all their RSs, because if the players have the necessary talent they’ll find a way to help on the field as True-Fr.(QB position being the exception).
Wake Forest said the same thing after their ACC-Title, about how they couldn’t recruit with the big boys and how they “needed” a gimmicky Offensive System and that because of their massive RS-ing that they were headed in the right direction, that right direction ended up being a 5-7 and a 2-10 season this year. I’ll admit that GT FB will never drop as low as Wake mainly because HS FB in Ga. will always be Top-5 in the USA and is much better than crappy N. Carolina HS FB, but the same “signs” are starting to manifest itself in GT’s FB Program that were visible in Wake’s Program after they won their ACC-Title.
For those GT fans that are open minded and refuse to blindly follow the “Company Line”, the similarities are too great to ignore.
Rexx-NN-Fx
November 25th, 2010
12:41 am
re: Bill Curry
Sorry pal but you can’t have it both ways!
You can’t give CPJ a mulligan on that 1st Recruiting class and then come back and say AFTER Tevin almost beat VPI that he played like “warrior”, after all he is a RS- Soph. and came in in that same Class, also our BEST OL THIS SEASON, O. Uzzi is also a RS-Soph. from that class.
You seem to want to absolve CPJ from anything BAD that comes from that Recruiting class, while at the same time giving him CREDIT for everything GOOD that came from that Recruiting Class.
For example, when C. Everett Cooper (Taylor) made that big hit in the F$U game in 2008, no one said HE WAS GAILEY RECRUIT and CPJ isn’t accountable for that 1st Recruiting Class, no instead fans LIKE YOU said, “CPJ is a great motivator and had them read to play and CPJ’s “intensity” is WHY Taylor made that hit on the Goal-Line.
You can’t selectively give CPJ credit for all of the GOOD that comes from that Recruiting Class and then shield him from the BAD that comes from that same Recruiting Class.
You seem like the typical thin-skinned, hypocritical GT Fan that loves CPJ more than they love GT’s FB Program.
I care about the PROGRAM more than I care about any one individual.
Paul in RDU
November 25th, 2010
1:35 am
Wake Forest’s record under Jim Caldwell and Jim Grobe
Caldwell 1993-2000 2-9 3-8 1-10 3-8 5-6 3-8 7-5 2-9
Grobe 2001-present 6-5 7-6 5-7 4-7 4-7 11-3 (ACC Champs) 9-4 8-5 5-7 2-9 (to date)
The only success Wake Forest has had in the last 30 years has been with Grobe. It’s not as if his predecessor is a bad coach – he was in the Super Bowl last year.
GT Anchorage
November 25th, 2010
2:05 am
I like how all these people have came out of the woodwork to talk about how bad of a coach/recruiter Johnson is towards the end of a mediocre year. Where were you while we were going 11-3 last year? I bet if we win 10 games or more next year, we want hear anything more from you.
Remember how many players were lost to the draft/graduation last year. Who wouldn’t have a down year after that. Johnson is retooling a very young team, and we will be better next year.
donbritt
November 25th, 2010
4:57 am
Johnson is good He will get it together and to Georgia fans War Eagle !!
Tony
November 25th, 2010
8:11 am
It’’s amazing to me that everyone seemingly jumped on board about Johnson’s offense when he came and we were winning. Now it’s the worst offense ever in some’s minds. You have to remember that he’s running this offense with average players (three stars) and yet up until this year it had worked. You can’t hit a homerun everytime you go to bat. Just look at Georgia this year with all of their 5 star recruits. It’s a game everybody, not life and death. Enjoy your family; Happy Thanksgiving! Go Tech!
Corny Hull
November 25th, 2010
8:15 am
For large majority of college teams the records and talent level often runs in cycles, whether you admit it or not. Look at Texas this year (doesn’t happen often,but it has this year) or Georgia this year. People want to throw the coach out for a 7-4 season. It only takes 4-5 real good players to raise the level of confidence and playing above your normal capability to propel a team to greater accomplishments. It truly is comical how fans(?) want to dump the coach at the drop of a hat. As for Ga. Tech, when they recruit a wide receiver or a QB with this offense, the players has got to be able to catch the ball from day one and be able to throw accurately and make good decisions when to pitch in running the option.
big hoss
November 25th, 2010
8:23 am
You idiots calling for Coach Johnson’ s head would not recognize a real coach if you had a gun stuck to your head. Do you realize that Tech is the top rushing team in the country. And probably in time of ball control. Our defense has been weak this year for sure, but you go with what you have. The problem with recruiting 4 and 5 star atheletes is that all of them want a short and easy path to the big bucks and Tech does not offer that. Its THUGA for the NFL wannabes and their weak academic requirements. Stick with Johnson and he will bring Tech a winner despite the fan’s base lack of football knowledge and less thsan full stadiums. It was pitiful last year at the Orange Bowl that the Hawkeye fans outnumbered the Techsters by 3-1. You think the players don’t see this and lose enthusiam. What a bunch of losers and whiners the Tech fans are. They are my team no matter if they lose every game. Shut up and get behind them!!
AMG
November 25th, 2010
8:51 am
Beat thUGA and it is a really good down year for Tech and for all you thUGA fans, NO BOWL GAME FOR YOU!
AMG
November 25th, 2010
8:53 am
Winning in Athens the second straight time is nice, Watching thUGA fans cringe in anger is awesome, but watching angry thUGA fans sit home for bowl season an act like they are still a great program is PRICELESS!
Firecpj.com
November 25th, 2010
8:57 am
Fire him after this season. This is the beginning of the end. We can all see what happens when a team holds on to their coach way past their due…UGAG anyone?
big hoss
November 25th, 2010
9:17 am
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You Can't Handle The Truth
November 25th, 2010
9:35 am
CPJ is an excuse maker, and his players know it. If he beats UGA, it’s the biggest victory of the season, and if he loses, well, it was just another game and it really wasn’t that important so let’s just move on.
Johnson also knows he just doesn’t have the players to be very good. Without any star players to provide team leadership, Tech is lost. It’s going to be ugly Sat. night: UGA 45 Tech 17
White&Gold
November 25th, 2010
12:32 pm
I hate to say it, but we’re weak defensively in the same places as last year. Couple that factor with a hot and cold offense and it isn’t a pretty picture. I still pray for the win over Georgia – so I won’t have to leave town – permanently!
White&Gold
November 25th, 2010
12:40 pm
I have read some “Bring back Chan” comments here. Wouldn’t you really rather have Pepper back? How about cutting Coach Johnson a little slack. This has been a disappointing year for Tech fans, and I’m sure that is true by a factor of ten for Coach Johnson. I still have confidance that Coach Johnson is destined for greatness at Tech!
Wreckmaniac
November 25th, 2010
1:15 pm
At least the coach knows what the problem is. I’ve seen this team play two games I am proud of- a win at Carolina and a loss at Va Tech. Against other teams such as Miami, they have been in a trance.
As bad as the defense has been this team would have a much better record if they could have avoided their tendency to just check out or never get into it. We will have a great game in Athens if we can play 60 minutes.
Wreckmaniac
November 25th, 2010
1:16 pm
An excuse maker ? The coach is saying “I know what the problem is” and he is right. And he is saying I’m responsible. You can’t ask for more than that.
Wreckmaniac
November 25th, 2010
3:17 pm
EagleDude. Thank you. PJ is an awesome coach and I love this offense. I also love his “go for it” attitude. He needs defensive improvement.