Does extra time matter when facing Tech’s offense?
Georgia will be the sixth opponent this season that has had extra time to prepare for Georgia Tech’s option offense. The Bulldogs last played on Nov. 13, when they were beaten by Auburn and its version of the option, 49-31.
The extra time is something that opposing coaches have played up when asked about facing Paul Johnson’s unique system. However, having extra time helps to prepare for any type of offense…or defense, as Johnson points out.
“I’m glad we had an extra week to begin to prepare for it,” Georgia coach Mark Richt said. “Hopefully it will make us better than it would on a week’s notice.”
Johnson also says that having an extra week is fine, but you still have to go out and play. Once the ball is kicked off, the game boils down to diagnosing and figuring out ways to beat strategies and tendencies.
Some of the teams this season have had extra time because of a bye the previous week. Others have had two days because they played on Thursdays, giving them Friday and Saturday to break down film or go over schemes. When teams play on Saturdays, most coaching staffs break down film on Sunday, so that’s a wash when counting extra days. Duke is included because it faced the option offenses of Army and Navy earlier in the season.
So, how have the teams that have had an extra week to prepare done against the Yellow Jackets?
| Team | Result | Extra | Rushing | Passing | Total | Tech’s | Difference | Opponent’s | Difference |
| time | allowed | allowed | Yards | average | average | ||||
| S.C. State | W, 41-10 | Opener | 372 | 12 | 384 | 405.6 | -21.6 | 196.7 | 187.3 |
| UNC | W, 30-24 | Week | 372 | 76 | 448 | 405.6 | 42.4 | 344.3 | 103.7 |
| N.C. State | L, 45-28 | 2 days | 247 | 116 | 363 | 405.6 | -42.6 | 334.4 | 28.6 |
| MTSU | W, 42-14 | 4 days | 329 | 86 | 415 | 405.6 | 9.4 | 394.3 | 20.7 |
| Va. Tech | L, 28-21 | 5 days | 346 | 80 | 426 | 405.6 | 20.4 | 354.1 | 71.9 |
| Duke* | W, 30-20 | Played | 320 | 90 | 410 | 405.6 | 4.4 | 443.8 | -33.8 |
| Army and | 12.4 | 378.4 | |||||||
| Navy |
So the extra week doesn’t really seem to matter. Tech’s offense actually averages about 2 more yards per game and the opposing defenses are giving up 63 more yards per game.
Of course, points are what really matters:
| Team | Result | Extra | Tech’s average | Difference | Opp. average | Difference |
| time | points | points allowed | ||||
| S.C. State | W, 41-10 | Opener | 27 | 14 | 13 | 28 |
| UNC | W, 30-24 | Week | 27 | 3 | 23.3 | 6.7 |
| N.C. State | L, 45-28 | 2 days | 27 | 1 | 21.1 | 6.9 |
| MTSU | W, 42-14 | 4 days | 27 | 15 | 28.9 | 13.1 |
| Va. Tech | L, 28-21 | 5 days | 27 | -6 | 18.9 | 2.1 |
| Duke* | W, 30-20 | Played | 27 | 3 | 36.5 | -6.5 |
| Army and | 30 | 50.3 |
Again, the extra time or preparation doesn’t seem to matter. Tech averaged 5 more points than it did against teams that had a week to prepare, and defenses allowed 8.4 more points than they did against other teams.
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158 comments Add your comment
Wrecker
November 22nd, 2010
10:08 am
As Johnson always says, it is about execution.
DawginLex
November 22nd, 2010
10:09 am
Grantham could have 6 months to prepare and it won’t matter. The odds on this game are a joke. This will be a down to the wire all out war.
We don’t have a nose guard on campus. We play a 3-4. Anybody see a problem here?
Grantham already has a bunch of dummies who have blown assignments all year long. How are we going to put in new alignments in week 12 vs the TO?
I’d run the fullback ALL DAY LONG if I were CPJ. Then the outside pitch plays that Auburn burned us with time and time again. If Washington throws more than 5 passes, CPJ should be fired on the spot.
Murray and Green and Charles and Ealey better put up 45 or we will get beat.
GT BS04
November 22nd, 2010
10:14 am
May just be a tech nerd here doing math, but if the average tech points is 27 and we put 21 on VT the difference isn’t 7…..anyways the fact remains that an extra week can help for any type of offense, and if seeing it repeatedly should help also then there is no reason that more teams aren’t undefeated for seeing “traditional” offenses every week
RambleOn84
November 22nd, 2010
10:16 am
DawginLex,
The problem is Tech can’t stop the run. Murray won’t have to pass to beat us.
MC
November 22nd, 2010
10:23 am
Just how bad does a team have to be to be a 15 point dog to a 5-6 team?
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
10:24 am
Hell can’t stop the run and though I thought the secondary was looking better that was illusion was killed against DUKE. Trust me Dawginlex Murray while have time to make a snadwhich then pass to whoever he wants our pass rush is HORRIBLE.
JB
November 22nd, 2010
10:25 am
The stinger is gone from this Jacket…..Nesbitt gave them a chance….Duke showed us a Jacket without it’s stinger………basically a house fly.
DawginLex
November 22nd, 2010
10:27 am
I bet Groh blitzes all day long and tries to hit Murray as many times a spossible and force him to make quick throws.
I may be wrong and of course I hope I am, since we haven’t won a close game in forever. I just don’t see this Georgia team whipping anybody other than LaLA and Idaho State and Vandy. UT and UK gave us the game.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
10:28 am
Well GT has zero pass threat, penalty prone, no real defense to speak of, oh and special teams bites except maybe kickoff return which Bostic and Peeples will get plenty of practice at I’m sure.
JB
November 22nd, 2010
10:30 am
My business partner is a Tech Grad ( yes, we do need some brains LOL) and he’s a season ticket holder, so he has the right to speak. He ain’t happy……He saw this coming and he’s worried about next year. ( aren’t we all). Doesn’t see a lot of help coming on defense, and the offense will be a crap shoot………….I told him, welcome to our world.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
10:30 am
Problem is GT has to send 5-6 to get any real pass rush because like UGA the NG is not taking up two o-lineman like you need in a 3-4.
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
10:34 am
Last year PJ was had “bigger fish to fry”. What is it this year PJ? What a fraud that guy is.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
10:36 am
JB,
GT has a couple that could help next season namely McCoy and Green on the d-line and the young secondary has been getting play time this year minus Ayers. I just hope this young o-line gets better and can stay healthy, which GT has had a serious problem with. QB could be a question, but I see Vad Lee redshirting. The a-backs will be fine with Smith and Jones returning and Bostic will be thrown in the mix. Now B-back and WR will be the real question marks.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
10:36 am
MC- pretty darn bad. But I ask you this. How bad does a team have to be to get beat by another team that fires their coach in midseason?….and then wants to talk with the coach that they beat, about a head coaching job?
yea but...
November 22nd, 2010
10:37 am
Doug, these statistics are extremely skewed by extremely weak teams in SCSU, MTSU, and Duke. UNC had the drama basically its starting defense being suspended, and still almost won that game. The 2 quality opponents (NCST and VaTech) beat the Jackets handily. I am not trying to compare UGA to those two teams, just pointing out that your stats are a little skewed.
Since GT did not have a bye week, lets look at some games where UGA played opponents that did not have bye weeks. UGA played against Tenn, Vanderbilt, UK, and Idaho State, and averaged nearly 46 pts per game. they gave up only 14 pts per game. UGA only played 1 D-II team in that sample, just like GT. The other 3 games were against SEC opponents, 2 of which will be in bowls this season. If you were to look only at that sample, UGA looks like a national champ contender.
One more thing, GT had Nesbitt against everyone but Duke in your example. he will not be on the field on Saturday. The point is, you can make stats say anything you want them to, and the stats you just gave about GT mean about as much as their split National Championship trophy…. NOTHING.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
10:37 am
OT95,
If you are going to quote somebody atleast look up and post the whole thing. The man was talking about winning the ACCCG and not downplaying the GT/UGA game.
Topp Dogg
November 22nd, 2010
10:38 am
Enter your comments here
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
10:42 am
Uh, Ramblin Man I do believe maybe you should hone your interpretive skills. That was Pj’s response to a direct question about how important was it to beat UGA.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
10:43 am
MC- on a serious note. What the 15pt spread shows me is what all of us know. Ga has the more talented guys but just can’t play as a team. Tech has less talent and this year is not playing with any conviction or drive. Talent will win in that scenario everytime. Here’s to hopefully watching a good game, No matter who wins both teams should be ashamed of the way they have under achieved this year.
DawginLex
November 22nd, 2010
10:44 am
And it is interesting BROCK, that Colorado has won since running Hawkins off. Kinda like the Cowboys.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
10:47 am
Yeah Lex- you know Wade is sitting in his livin room scratchin his head like WTF?!!
Tech82
November 22nd, 2010
10:48 am
UGA having two weeks to prepare is a non-issue. The fact that they are SIGNIFICANTLY better than we are on on both the O-line and the D-line is going to be the difference in the game.
RambleOn84
November 22nd, 2010
10:51 am
Ding ding ding! Tech82 wins the discussion. That’s what it boils down to in the end.
UGA wins because they dominate at the LOS, just like last year.
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
10:52 am
The Georgia game is always a bigger game than the tallest midget game. (ACC title game) Anybody at GT that won’t admit that is probably lieing anyway.
DawginLex
November 22nd, 2010
10:55 am
Anybody with an extra thousand bucks lying around willing to bet it on the Dawgs to cover?
I’d bet it on Tech in a heartbeat.
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
10:58 am
Brock UGA’s offense is certainly playing as a team and really right now is a scoring machine when it comes right down to it. And even with their D having some issues their offense is head and shoulders above our D. And to be totally objective, we can’t finish enough drives against them to even come close on the scoreboard.
wesleywhatwhat
November 22nd, 2010
11:00 am
cpj – PLEASE pitch it to orwin smith and roddy jones on the outside.
and any passes should be short crossing routes across the middle.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:00 am
again, neither team has anything to brag about here OT95. In my opinion, if Tech wins, then we beat a 5-6 team. Whoopty friggin do!! If GA wins, they beat a 6-5 team. Whoopty friggin do!! All the bragging rights? I coudn’t give 2 sh#ts about.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
11:08 am
OT95,
I still say he was not downplaying UGA. He said it was a game he would ahve liked to win but now he had to move on. Yes as a GT fan I would have loved if GT had won that game last year, but if I had to trade a UGA win for a championship then I will take the chamionship. Seriously would you take a win over GT compared to a chamionship?
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:08 am
at times their offense looks good, definitely better than Techs but their defense hasn’t been able to prove they can stop the run. Now tech does have a way of making horrible defenses look great.
Like I said earlier, I’m just hoping for a good game. If I have to wait all day for a blowout (either way) I will be disappointed.(tech blowout? very surprised, mildy disappointed
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:09 am
spell error…..what is mildy dissappointed?
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
11:10 am
Yeah right Brock! Beating UGA is the biggest event in a GT fan’s life.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:10 am
spell error..WTF??? disappointed
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:11 am
Not mine. sorry to burst your bubble. Can’t lump all fans to one opinion.
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
11:11 am
Their defense is giving up 113 yds a game rushing Brock. What is ours giving up?
GT Sambo
November 22nd, 2010
11:12 am
DawginLex: “If Washington throws more than 5 passes, CPJ should be fired on the spot.”
HA!!!! Too funny!
Dawglasville
November 22nd, 2010
11:13 am
We haven’t stopped the option all year long. Teams have been running a lot of reverses against us and we can’t figure that out either. I look for at least 5 of those Saturday. The extra week didn’t help us two years ago. I believe we were a 14 point favorite that year. I don’t know what to expect. Murray will help a lot if he is 100%. Let’s just say that I hope this year has been a humbling experience for all parties involved and that these blogs continue to get more mature. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:14 am
more. but look, take away Lattimore and Newton and who else has needed to run against them to beat em? Florida ran pretty good also.
GT Sambo
November 22nd, 2010
11:14 am
Agreed about the UGA game vs. the ACC Championship. How many of us Tech fans still cringe when we remember CPJ’s “bigger fish to fry” statement. There is no bigger fish in the state of Georgia than UGA!
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
11:17 am
If anything their D is vulnerable to the pass because of blown coverages. And even there they are only allowing 195 passing yards per game and we have no passing game period.
GT Jason
November 22nd, 2010
11:19 am
Wow, so many people bashing their own teams. Tech will win if it can stop big plays (Mainly AJ Green). We’ve played okay on defense all year but always seem to let someone loose for no reason. Playing assignments on defense and finishing drives on offense make for a GT victory. Either way I’m thinking we get over 400 yards rushing in this one. AA has 3-4 yards easily every time against the 3-4 defense.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:20 am
What?? Tech doesn’t have a passing game?
OT95
November 22nd, 2010
11:21 am
You think they do Brock? lol
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:22 am
I agree Jason-AA will/could make a big difference in this game. They stop the dive and we rely on passing we are done as usual.
Brock
November 22nd, 2010
11:22 am
I forgot you can’t detect sarcasm through posts.
RambleOn84
November 22nd, 2010
11:22 am
You guys are taking it all wrong over PJ’s comments last year. He never said or meant to imply that he didn’t care about beating UGA.
Understand from his point of view:
He was trying to prepare his team for the conference championship game, a chance to play in a BCS bowl game. And all anyone would talk about was a game that had already been played. He was clearly annoyed, and rightfully so.
It would be like if Eli Manning had lost to the Colts in Week 17, and then the next week as the Giants prepare to play in the playoffs all people bring up is how it felt to lose to his brother. He’ll get annoyed and say something that some people will construe as sour grapes.
But the fact is the game doesn’t matter anymore. You have to move on, especially when there are much more important things ahead.
Johnson wanted to beat UGA more than any Tech fan out there. IT’S HIS JOB and he knows it’s important. But once it’s over, there’s nothing he can do about it. And he had a much more important game to prepare for the week after. He was annoyed that no one would let it go, and as usual, he spoke honestly.
Would you have been happy if he had just cried or told everyone next time he will “try harder?” That would be a lie, as you better believe he gave it his best shot the first and second times. IT’S HIS JOB.
Burdell
November 22nd, 2010
11:22 am
Colorado rushed for 235 yds with a lot of that on QB keepers. These games are always close…with the exception being the abominable 51-7 back early in the Gailey era.
Burdell
November 22nd, 2010
11:24 am
Right on Ramble…CPJ is here because his predecessor could not beat UGA. He knows that the game is important.
RambleOn84
November 22nd, 2010
11:24 am
OT95,
All this play-acting is confusing you…at first you referred to Tech as “we,” but now it is “they.” Be yourself man. A lonely UGA fan with a small member.
Dawg gone
November 22nd, 2010
11:25 am
it’s the freaking “OLD FASHION HATE ” game here, throw all past games out this is the BIG KHUANA (GOVENORS CUP) braggin rights, uga will be battling for MR’s job security & tech better be playing for PRIDE ,it’s brother against brother & family against family, stop trying to analyze every stat in the book because none of that matters come Saturday when toe meets leather , it will come down to who executes & who protects the ball, that simple !!!!!! THWG !!!!!
dawgfan
November 22nd, 2010
11:26 am
I think we had an off week in ‘08 if I remember correctly. So there you go. But I notice Roberson conveniently ignores Johnson’s 0-2 bowl record. I’d say that’s relevant to this discussion.
I would say this year’s D is better suited for Tech’s defense than ‘08. We’ve been pretty good on the edge and up the middle. Its mostly been shoddy pass coverage that has killed us and Tech of course can’t pass the ball.
On O we’ll just keep throwing to AJ and there won’t be a damn thing Tech can do about it. Easy does it there.
All said, it should be a good game. The 15 point line is assinine.
Another week, another running quarterback | Get The Picture
November 22nd, 2010
11:27 am
[...] In one of the more strained uses of selective statistics I’ve seen, the AJ-C’s Tech beat writer makes the case that the extra week of preparation doesn’t particularly make a difference to Georgia [...]
Doug Roberson
November 22nd, 2010
11:33 am
I didn’t include the bowl games because both teams had a lot of time to prepare. Figured that was a wash.
Embarrassment
November 22nd, 2010
11:33 am
I’ve never understood how anyone – even an alumnus – could support and take pride in UGA’s football team. When you look at their history for the past forty years, how can anyone ignore Jan Kemp and the “remedial studies” scam, the Jim Harrick fiasco, the DUIs in the athletic office, the DUIs and other arrests of players, the #1 party school tag (i.e., the most drunk students), the suspensions and outright dismissals, the Fulmer Cup, and on and on?
As disgraceful and humiliating as it is, I don’t see many alums and fans demanding an end to this sordid activity. It sets UGA apart as the kind of school most people abhor, and it’s become an embarrassment to the whole state of Georgia.
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
11:39 am
It would help if Ga. Tech would recruit more “name” players. The best name I’ve seen recently is that guy Festus Ezeli who led Vandy to a win over UNC in Puerto Rico last night.
Seriously, Tech will have to establish the dive. I imagine that audibling away from Houston’s side of the field will be a necessity. The OL has to stop the false starts that turn into 3rd and long situations.
MalibuGT
November 22nd, 2010
11:39 am
hard for any tech fan to feel confidence after watching the last couple of games without Joshua. I don’t think we can stop dogs offense so our only hope was to keep scoring with them. And if we fall behind a couple of scores and need to start passing, it could go from bad to worse. Though….in georgia’s pass defense and tech’s passing game, it’s like the blind leading the blind.
Anyway, I’ll be there with my UGA buddies and we’ll have some fun either way!
GTBob
November 22nd, 2010
11:47 am
I’m honestly not really worried about our offense against UGA. We will be fine there. The biggest problem is our defense. If they stop us from scoring just once they will win. If they stop us from scoring a few times then its a blowout. Our only real chance is winning the turnover battle.
saban
November 22nd, 2010
11:50 am
Watching the Duke game was terrifying.
Hopefully Tech can play well.
Clarke County Correctional will empty out for this game.
How is Richt doing on the parole situation for the team?
RiffRaff
November 22nd, 2010
11:52 am
Dawgs are not good this year. Problem is Tech is even worse. Both end the season 6-6.
Colin Kaepernick for Heisman
November 22nd, 2010
12:01 pm
@Embarrassment
That’s what fans do. They look the other way when it turns out their best player in 40 years was actually ineligible to play football his entire career, then gets a DUI + Possession of marijuana as a member of the AD. He was just one of a few players that never should have legitimately suited up for their academic institution.
They diminish the the facts regarding a muli-level drug dealer being a member of the team.
They ignore the fact that despite claims of academic superiority, about 95% of the “Student-athletes” take the exact same courses (on the M train or in History of Science and Technology) from the exact same professors annually.
They diminish the recruitment of a kid like A.T. Barnes, who could not qualify at a single SEC institution. They diminish the academic careers of student-athletes like Stephon Marbury and Kenny Anderson.
They diminish having a former head coach who could not get hired at another institution because of his lack of resume integrity, and totally gloss over the fact that the resume was just fine for their university, and that he oversaw the academic scandal referenced above.
There are quite a few alums who believe that what has gone on in the AD at UGA the last few years is an eyesore and needs to be fixed. Unfortunately, when a company is making millions of dollars in profit every year, people tend to ignore a lot of things that are wrong. Maybe if UGA ever digs as huge a debt in its budget as the one that Tech currently has, things will be more closely monitored?
Let’s just remember that nobody is perfect.
coachx
November 22nd, 2010
12:08 pm
It looks like the off week matter a lot when it is a decent team (NC St. & V. Tech). The other teams suck (SC State. Midd Tenn, Duke, UNC missing half their roster.) Those teams could not beat Tech if they has a year off to study them.
What a crappy article.
RambleOn84
November 22nd, 2010
12:10 pm
“[Joe Hamilton] was actually ineligible to play football his entire career.”
“A.T. Barnes … could not qualify at a single SEC institution.”
ANY evidence on these claims?
Burdell
November 22nd, 2010
12:19 pm
dawgfan… “On O we’ll just keep throwing to AJ and there won’t be a damn thing Tech can do about it.”
For once we agree about something!!!
DawgFacedBoy
November 22nd, 2010
12:37 pm
Tech is awful. UGA takes Tech to the wood shed for a historic beatdown!!
DawgFacedBoy
November 22nd, 2010
12:41 pm
15 points is waaaaaayyy too low.
This one is over by half time, probably sooner.
Cheeks Johnson.
November 22nd, 2010
12:46 pm
Shut up or I will punch you in the face!!
BillS
November 22nd, 2010
12:49 pm
Several bloggers got it right: this is a game matching a pair of losers, and whoever wins has little to be excited about. UGA’s offense probably too strong for GT, and while UGA’s pass defense is shabby, Tech can’t throw the ball. I’d guess 38-24 UGA in a game most fans on both sides would as soon forget. And that includes the bowl games these two will go to.
Zing
November 22nd, 2010
12:57 pm
Doug:
Interesting, but you’ve got a big statistical error there. That is, you assume that the teams that had an extra week to prepare were the same as the teams that didn’t. Obviously, that’s not true. Of course, you can’t really get a perfect test of this theory. The only thing you could do to get a decent comparison would be to either (i) try to match up a group of teams that had a week to prepare with a comparable group of teams that did not, or (ii) compare the same teams year over year; for example, how did UNC do, say, last year without extra time to prepare versus this year with extra time?
Neither of those modified comparisons would be perfect, but they would be closer to something useful.
Zing
November 22nd, 2010
12:59 pm
My hypothesis would be that the extra time helps, because the offense GTech runs is quite a bit different from what most defenses see, even with the proliferation of spread/option offenses.
Eddie Ivory
November 22nd, 2010
1:00 pm
If Tech wins…it’s because Johnson is a genius..if Tech loses…it’s the players fault!
FullMetalJacket
November 22nd, 2010
1:03 pm
With all due respect, Dawg gone, the “old fashioned hate” well had been dipped into so many times it’s pretty much empty by now. Unlike some rivalry games, this game yields very few upsets historically, and while it means a lot to those of us on both sides in our daily lives, it’s still just a game. My threshold for genuine “HATE” is a lot higher than any football game could evoke. It’s a good rivalry, but when one school outspends the other school 4 to 1 in football operations, it’s more of a regional thing.
Doug Roberson
November 22nd, 2010
1:12 pm
I thought about that, but each year’s teams are so different I wasn’t sure if that would be a good comparison either. That’s why I went with the season averages for this season.
GTSteve
November 22nd, 2010
1:12 pm
It’s hard to “hate” the other team when you are as bad as these 2 teams are this year..If one of the 2 teams comes out and plays up to potential, they will win, if both play like they have this season, it will be sloppy, ugly, and not entertaining…but I really can’t see Tech winning…of course I said that in 08
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
1:31 pm
Colin I would love to see something other than your biased opinion to back that statement up.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
1:33 pm
The newspaper studied 55 of the countries largest public universities and found that the preferences given to special admits at many schools was disproportionately favoring athletes, particularly football players. For example, in 2004 the University of California reported that 95% of freshman football players on scholarship were special recruits while 47% of all freshman athletes on scholarships were special admits. In contrast, only 2% of all freshman students were special admits. At the University of Georgia and Texas A&M University, 94% of freshman football players were special admits.
wesleywhatwhat
November 22nd, 2010
1:40 pm
“Colin Kaepernick for Heisman”
wrong on every count.
how’s it feel to lose to BOTH national champs from 1990 this year?
Mike Smith
November 22nd, 2010
1:40 pm
This analysis is completely rigged. Why should an extra week matter for SC St., MTSU, and Duke? You could give those teams a month to prepare for Tech and still not expect to lose. UNC was in the midst of an NCAA nightmare and was missing 13 players. They had to play their second string defense. Seriously, get some perspective here.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
1:43 pm
FOOTBALL SAT SCORES:
THE TOP 10
School, Average
Georgia Tech, 1028
Oregon State, 997
Michigan, 997
Virginia, 993
Purdue, 974
Indiana, 973
Hawaii, 968
California, 967
Colorado, 966
Iowa, 964
oh and Colin the special admit rate for Ga. Tech. in the same study was 9% compared to UGAs 94%. I wonder how it is UGA always ranks so high in recruiting while GT stays midlevel at best. It also makes you wonder how UGA leads the rivalry I mean with all those scholars having to study hard for lawn motor maint. and proper pine straw placement theories.
Doug Roberson
November 22nd, 2010
1:45 pm
How is it rigged? It is what it is…
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
1:51 pm
I mean no disrespect to anybody that has a real degree from UGA, but please do not tell me that UGA recruits student/athletes. I hate to even discuss this again or even bring it up and I have more than one friend who went to UGA and will tell you that most of your football team was lucky to get out of high school and if not for football they would have been lucky to get near a college let alone a major university. Yes GT fans love it when GT does beat UGA but most know that usually GT will lose and find it funny how some UGA fans live by that alone all year. UGA will probably win saturday and UGA fans will brag all year while saying how sorry of a program GT has yet fail to remimber that they had to rely on this advantage just to get to a bowl game.
Bamajacket
November 22nd, 2010
1:52 pm
I have watched ALL the Tech games this year (poor me) and most of UGA games. As I have said before, GA has an uncanny ability to throw games away, who knows why. Their defense is poor, at best average. But, they have played better competition. They have better players. If AGA finally finds a way to get their head out of their ***, it will be ugly quick. They will beat us, as last year, because their line on both sides will dominate what we throw out there. Tech has no leadership, can’t execute a basic tackle or block. They have demonstrated absolutely no heart. I knew we were in for a long year in week two. Kansas, for God’s sake. We couldn’t beat Kansas. It has gotten no better all year. We can’t stop Duke. Duke! This week may be worse than 51-7. Not because CPJ is not a good coach, but because they have better players, who can make plays. Despite all the trash on these blogs, GA has nothing to feel good about this week. They have performed awfully this year, but we are worse. Whoever makes the least stupid mistakes will win. A sorry commentary on both teams. We are simply better at lack of focus and making stupid mistakes. We will make at least one more than they do. Bottom line: UGA can score. They can’t stop anybody, but they can score. How many points have we left in the red zone because of fumbles or dumb penalties? We can’t outscore them this year. If we play a perfect game, and GA is GA, we can win. But, we haven’t done it all year, why now? Sadly, this will be a replay of UGA vs Tenn or UGA vs Kentucky. Don’t take the points.
Tech82
November 22nd, 2010
1:55 pm
Brock @11:08 writes: “Now tech does have a way of making horrible defenses look great.”
Really? Tech LEADS THE NATION in rushing offense. We average more than 405 yards per game in total offense. Please tell me what horrible defense we managed to make look great.
If you want to suggest we have made some horrible offenses look great, you will get no argument from me.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
1:55 pm
Well so much for the last post I wrote trying to be diplomatic, as it is lost in AJC blogging space.
DScottGT91
November 22nd, 2010
1:57 pm
I am not typically the Chicken Little type, but I have a really bad feeling we are going to get KILLED in this game. Unless Richt is an idiot the only passes Murray will make are (1) 3rd and 8 or longer, or (2) Play-actions on a couple of occasions looking for the home run to AJG. I mean, if you can swipe 6+ yards per carry, why would you do anything else?
And one more thing. I said last year we needed to stop the deification of CPJ. I like our coach a lot, but he is not above criticism. And going for it EVERY TIME on 4th down near midfield is @#$@#$@# moronic, no matter who you are. I like guts; I don’t care as much for stupidity.
BSCE 1991
Tech82
November 22nd, 2010
1:58 pm
Eddie Ivory – CPJ has cited lack of effort from the players in several losses but please direct me to ONE time when he has credited himself for a win.
DScottGT91
November 22nd, 2010
2:15 pm
Ramblin Man,
Can you post a citation for your SAT/Admission stats? I’ve heard these anecdotally before, but never seen the source material.
Thanks,
DS CE’91
Colin Kaepernick for Heisman
November 22nd, 2010
2:30 pm
Wow, so Cal has 95% special admits, but the 8th highest SAT scores?
I would deduce from that that the general student population at Cal is so good that to even be a special admit, one must do really well academically, because we are directly correlating SAT scores with academic prowess.
Conversely, if only 9% of the Tech players are special admits, but the average SAT score is only 1028, does that mean that Tech’s entrance standards for general students are not as high as most of us have been lead to believe? One would think that if 91% of the football team would have gotten in on their academic merits alone that the average SAT score of the team would be somewhere closer to 1200.
Interesting.
Observer
November 22nd, 2010
2:32 pm
Colin – It’s a good thing you don’t make a living as an analyst.
Jeff
November 22nd, 2010
2:46 pm
Enter your comments hereNo
what matters is the size and speed and discipline of the opponent
Mike Smith
November 22nd, 2010
2:52 pm
Its rigged because of the strength of the opponents involved in Tech’s wins (outside of UNC). SC St., MTSU, and Duke are not good enough to beat Tech given a month off, let alone just a week. On top of that, the UNC game was heavily handicapped in Tech’s favor thanks to nearly all of UNC’s defensive playmakers being ineligible for the game. Tech cant lose in this scenario.
It’s a lot like last year when Paul Johnson downplayed the strength of the SEC because Tech beat Miss St. and Vandy (the two worst teams in the conference last year).
Jekyl and heckel
November 22nd, 2010
2:56 pm
hey ‘yea butt’
GT has the crystal football that goes with their national championship, same as UF, UA, LSU, USC, UT, etc. WHERE’s uggie’s crystal football, you aomeba brain idiot???
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
3:00 pm
Colin Kaepernick – Beat Boise St. and you should get an invitation to the Heisman shindig.
gt84
November 22nd, 2010
3:00 pm
LETS ALL JUST RELAX A LITTLE BIT , THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THE TEAM SOPPOSE TO WIN DID NOT, IM A TECH FAN ON PAPER GA SHOULD WIN EASILY BUT TECH GA GAMES NEVER ARE A BLOWOUT, I THINK IF TECH PLAYS MISTAKE FREE WE WIN 38-35, BUT IF WE DONT EXECUTE IT WILL BE A LONG GAME GA WINNING 35-17
David
November 22nd, 2010
3:02 pm
This is the 2nd time I have ever responded to one of these, but the statistics were so incredibly skewed and biased, I couldn’t help myself.
2 of the tech wins discussed were SC State and MTSU. Shouldn’t those be guaranteed wins even if the opponents had a month to prepare?
Duke has been arbitrarily declared “like a bye.” Only problem is, um, they WEREN’T COMING OFF A BYE WEEK!
So, with the 3 legitimately comparable games, Tech is 1-2, with the one victory coming against a UNC team missing 11 starters. Silly to argue that extra time doesn’t help. It ALWAYS helps
Mike Smith
November 22nd, 2010
3:06 pm
Let me be a bit more clear. If you want to make a point about how a week off doesn’t matter against Tech, you have to look at opponents that could legitimately beat them. That means teams like NC St., Va Tech, UGA, Clemson, Miami, FSU, bowl games, etc. So far this year, Tech is 0-2 in that department.
That is how you determine what a week off does for Tech’s opponent, not using “paycheck” games like SC St. and MTSU.
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
3:08 pm
Ramblin Man – “The newspaper studied 55 of the countries largest public universities ”
What’s the source on that?
Rockdale Jacket
November 22nd, 2010
3:08 pm
It does not matter this year if UGA had an off week or played two games last week. This is a pitiful GT team
that does very little right on defense or special teams and has virtually no passing game. Record wise, UGA will end up the same for the regular season although they
have had a bad year. UGA scores at will any way they choose. UGA 48 GT, if lucky 17.
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
3:09 pm
Ramblin Man – Never mind, I found it via Google.
FrankinDawg
November 22nd, 2010
3:10 pm
Watch some game tape and take heart Tech fans!!!
The Tech offense should take a knee on first and second down. Then on third and long, Todd Grantham will ensure the DBs are out of position for a long gain on a wheel route to keep the drive alive.
On offense, remember that UGA has Mike Bobo calling moronic drive killing plays at the most inopportune times and loads of schemes to keep the ball away from AJ Green for quarters at a time.
UGA will find a way to overcome the Tech deficiencies and find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
gt84
November 22nd, 2010
3:11 pm
AGAIN LETS ALL JUST RELAX A LITTLE BIT , THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THE TEAM SOPPOSE TO WIN DID NOT, IM A TECH FAN ON PAPER GA SHOULD WIN EASILY BUT TECH GA GAMES NEVER ARE A BLOWOUT, I THINK IF TECH PLAYS MISTAKE FREE WE WIN 38-35, BUT IF WE DONT EXECUTE IT WILL BE A LONG GAME GA WINNING 35-17
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
3:17 pm
DScottGT91,
collegeadmissionsaartners.com will give you most of the special admit information you want.
US news will give you the top and lowest schools by SAT scores for football
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/paper-trail/2008/12/30/athletes-show-huge-gaps-in-sat-scores.html
Colin,
I was just showing you that I have numbers to back something up and you have yet to show any proof of the things you post about another persons character. To answer part of your question though the average for football was 315 points lower so no the normal student getting in is probably held to a higher standard, tests better, or just flat out smarter. If it makes you feel better UGA was not listed in the bottom ten.
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
3:17 pm
It looks like the NCAA data on special admits might be a better source than the IndyStar.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4781264
An excerpt on Texas, who does not define special admissions, apparently:
“Texas was one of seven schools that reported no use of special admissions, instead describing “holistic” standards that consider each applicant individually rather than relying on minimum test scores and grade-point averages.
“But the school also acknowledged in its NCAA report that athletic recruits overall are less prepared. At Texas, the average SAT score for a freshman football player from 2003 to 2005 was 945 — or 320 points lower than the typical first-year student’s score on the entrance exam.”
bugsquacher
November 22nd, 2010
3:20 pm
Hello my little pigeons…….. its that time of the year……
Gives me goose bumps to think of the damage and destruction coming the nerds way……
Nothing gives me anymore pleasure than watching year after year the DAWGS hammer the Nerds……
Whats it going to be this year? a last second win or just an old fashion beat down….. Get ready bugs….. your time grows short…..
Let the big Dawg eat! It wont hurt much……lol…….. yes it will……. NERDS!
Doug Roberson
November 22nd, 2010
3:23 pm
Mike, I would point out that the offense wasn’t at fault in those losses. It scored at least 21 points in those three games, and in one game Nesbitt went out with an injury or they may have scored more.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
3:24 pm
Besides the 51-7 debacle when was the last beatdown you speak of? I wonder because last year has been called a beatdown more than once and last a checked 6 points does not equal beatdown.
Ramblin Man
November 22nd, 2010
3:26 pm
Doug,
Good luck with this argument. Remember 6 points is a beatdown by some UGA fan standards and the fact that GTs offense can score is irrelevant.
Tech82
November 22nd, 2010
3:34 pm
Doug – It seems the only real, apples to apples, analysis of the “two weeks to prepare” issue is to look back two years ago when UGA had two weeks to prepare before Tech visted Sanford stadium. I’m trying to recall the result. Can anyone help me out?
Burdell
November 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
“Georgia Tech had the nation’s best average SAT score for football players, 1028 of a possible 1600, and best average high school GPA, 3.39 of a possible 4.0. But because its student body is apparently very smart, Tech’s football players still scored 315 SAT points lower than their classmates.”
FWIW
November 22nd, 2010
3:40 pm
Rockdale Jacket = UGAG poser
Billyboy
November 22nd, 2010
3:44 pm
The only way the extra time would make a difference is if you gave GT extra time during the game. Their offense is simple to defend because they don’t block and no quickness. GT offense only looks good against the GT defense, but, everybody’s offense does
third quarter fan
November 22nd, 2010
3:55 pm
The major “time” is the half time adjustment period. Both PJ and Big Al seem to be real men of genius and make the necessary adjustments during halftime and the third quarter usually reflect their prowess.
Also, you dogs noticed that we now have a fully blossomed Hill…that guy is a pass catching machine! Just watch him go!
ps…some of your stat guys seem to be way too serious…this is a fun blog…
Bring Back Chan
November 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm
#1 in rushing offense!!! Woo hoo!
#119 in passing offense. #61 in scoring offense. And a defense that can’t even keep Duke from 100 yards rushing. They could barely gain a yard rushing against BC the week before, and there they were breaking off big chunks of yardage against our D. I shudder to think what UGA will do to us next week. We would have lost to Duke if not for a lucky pick-six and a missed chip shot field goal. Duke looked like the superior team most of the day.
We’re #24 in time of possession though! We rule! The #1 team in the country? They are #108 in time of possession. The #2 team? #84. Kind of an overrated stat maybe?
The most hilarious moment Saturday was when we ran that old PJ “draw them offsides” play on 4th down and both our A-backs moved at the same time, moving *us* back five yards. It’s year three folks. PJ is busy blaming Chan for not leaving him with good recruits, all the while accepting every bit of credit for the success accomplished by the best recruiting class in GT history. Meanwhile, in year three, his team still doesn’t exhibit any of the “nastiness” or discipline he claims is demanded of his players.
No playmakers, No excitement. Half-empty stadium. A tiresome, repetitive, antiquated offense. No toughness, no leadership, mistakes galore. Competing with Duke and Sun Belt schools for athletes.
This is Paul Johnson Football.
TechRedNeck
November 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm
The Jackets can’t stop ANYBODY. The only way one can figure who’s the better team is to look at the players. UGA has the biggest, strongest, players. UGA plays in a tougher conference. They have the edge.
Tech82
November 22nd, 2010
4:11 pm
Billyboy @3:44 writes: “Their offense is simple to defend ”
Hey Billy, could you please explain to us why, if our offense is so simple to defend, we lead the nation in rushing and average 15 more yards per game than UGA?
NOBODYYOUKNOW
November 22nd, 2010
4:12 pm
I’m watching the Alabama Auburn game. Who cares who wins the Tech, Ga. game? Oh I guess if Tech wins they will have some big parade down North Ave. and get the score tattooed on their butt cheeks. The Techies are the only ones who will make a big deal of it.
Simple Techster
November 22nd, 2010
4:22 pm
This is for the dawg moron this morning that said the two quality opponents that beat us this year was NCSU and Virginia Tech. The key word was “handily”. In the same paragraph, he downplayed the win over UNC because of their starting defense being suspended.
Dude….seriously. UNC took LSU to the wire. They were less than ten yards away from a win, but couldnt complete a pass with two chances. So, don’t downplay UNC. LSU would destroy both UGA and GT if they played right now, or back in September. I don’t understand how VT handily beat us either, we played over half the game without our starting QB on the road, and still played them to the wire and had every opportunity to beat them. The INT in the end zone at the end of the game sealed it. We were down to NCSU 31-28 in the 4th qtr before we handed them the game and Russell Wilson turned it up. Tech’s problem has been intensity and focus, all year long, with or without Nesbitt. Lack of execution. Talent is not an issue. We have the talent. Defense is a little different, just like UGA, we implemented the 3-4 and need a few more players suited for it.
Now, I am as big a Jacket fan there is. I live, breathe, eat and sleep GT athletics. UGA, going by the odds, has an excellent chance of winning this game. But NO WAY in hades are they any more than a TD favorite. Last year, UGA completely dominated the o and d lines and ran the ball down our throat. However, and any dawg fan who says differently is lying, if D. Thomas didnt drop that pass at the end of the game, we would have been in your red zone with a minute left with every chance to win that game and every single one of you sighed HARD in relief when he dropped that pass. Yes, that is a shoulda coulda woulda, but this dominating crap is pure BS. I believe this game will be won by 6 or less points, by either side. Common sense says the dawgs want it more, not only are they playing for the opportunity to play in a bowl, which we have already achieved, they are playing for their coach who could very well be coaching his last game as a Bulldog. Personally, I think you guys are idiots if you let CMR go. I think he placed trust in the wrong people, like Bobo,lost some control over his team, and had a lot of players make some really dumb personal decisions. CMR is one of the most integrity driven coaches in the NCAA…and that is why Colorado wants him so bad. The man has a heart bigger than this state. I personally HATE the Bulldogs, clean, pure ol fashioned hate……but i would root for CMR in a heartbeat.
Now, for the game. UGA is going to punch us hard in the mouth. No doubt about it. The question is, can Tech punch back? If Tevin Washington makes smart decisions, if our O line plays disciplined ball, and our seniors step up, namely Roddy Jones, A. Allen and B. Jefferson, then Tech has EVERY chance to win this game. And i believe we will. Tech wins 31-28. See you boys in Athens. GO JACKETS!!!!!!!! THWG!
JB
November 22nd, 2010
4:22 pm
It’ll be closer than most think…..Georgia will be unmotivated ( yes, Tech and all) and Tech just has a pretty bad team minus Nesbitt…..I expect a 24-14 Dawg win due to line play…..Dawgs will rush at will due to Tech having to stay back and play pass defense.
Tech Forever
November 22nd, 2010
4:28 pm
Georgia fans who think Tech has a chance because you’re down on your team….you are hilarious. There is no way Tech is going to win this game and not much of a way it’ll even be close. Has Georgia beaten anyone? No. But I think playing Tech’s schedule Georgia would be 7-4 right now at worst and vice versa Tech would be 3-8 playing Georgia’s schedule.
DawgFacedBoy
November 22nd, 2010
4:30 pm
TECH AIN’T MAN ENOUGH TO WIN THIS GAME.
THERE, I SAID IT.
Mike Smith
November 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm
Doug, I’ll give you the Va Tech game. Tech might have played their best game of the year. Then again, Tech also had the week off as well. N. C. St? Forget it. That game got out of hand quick. It was 31-14 before Tech’s offense scored in the 4th to make it 31-21. An INT for a TD made the game look close early in the 4th quarter 31-28, but then NC St. slammed the door shut outscoring Tech 14-0 the rest of the way. Was Tech completely shut down? No. Were they contained? Most definitely yes.
DIT
November 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm
What a difference a year makes. Last year each fan base was really doing some serious smack talk on the other. Each side felt pretty good about winning the game. This year, and rightfully so, neither side feels very confident about their chances or it’s just not a big deal.
Lets all of us hope that this time next year we both have teams with winning records so this game can matter again. I guess it always matters, but even more so than this year.
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
4:41 pm
Simple Techster – Roddy Jones is not a senior, he’s a redshirt junior. If he graduates early, I suspect that he can get admitted to grad school and play since he’s 2-time All-ACC academic team.
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
4:42 pm
Brad Childress just got fired.
Jekyl and heckel
November 22nd, 2010
4:48 pm
Eddie Ivory
November 22nd, 2010
1:00 pm
If Tech wins…it’s because Johnson is a genius..if Tech loses…it’s the players fault!
WRONG again, dog-breath. If Tech wins, it’s because BOBO is an idiot and Todd G. wasn’t a good pick for a college DC. If Tech loses, it’s because the great Mark Richt is a genius, and he ‘owns Tech’.
Stupid dogs!
Jekyl and heckel
November 22nd, 2010
4:54 pm
Tech Forever
November 22nd, 2010
4:28 pm
Georgia fans who think Tech has a chance because you’re down on your team….you are hilarious. There is no way Tech is going to win this game and not much of a way it’ll even be close. Has Georgia beaten anyone? No. But I think playing Tech’s schedule Georgia would be 7-4 right now at worst and vice versa Tech would be 3-8 playing Georgia’s schedule.
You’re the last idiot I have time to correct today. Tech loses to Kansas (terrible, yes) and Kansas beats Colorado who beat UGA. The SEC ain’t so tuff this year, and you’re giving GAGA’s schedule WAY too much respect! Learn something about football so that in the future you can comment without making a fool out of yourself.
Shane
November 22nd, 2010
4:56 pm
5-6 in the SEC is a far cry from 6-5 in the A she she.
Wont even be close.
Shane
November 22nd, 2010
4:57 pm
The SEC ain’t so tuff this year
The SEC is extremely tough EVERY year.
time4TechOldGold
November 22nd, 2010
4:59 pm
I don’t appreciate bangin away at my keyboard and a new window pop up and this page go blank, with my comment erased. I am growing very weary of this King rule censorship, with the new prince showing off to his fiancee by ripping off Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Speech on AJC Sports.
time4TechOldGold
November 22nd, 2010
5:01 pm
What Tech should do is not eat Thanksgiving day meal, and wait until after the Georgia game to stuff themselves.
Delbert D.
November 22nd, 2010
5:04 pm
@Shane – “The SEC is extremely tough EVERY year.” Soft underbelly this year. Please explain Colorado and Jacksonville St. wins.
Mike Smith
November 22nd, 2010
5:12 pm
@Tech Forever – I would mostly agree with you except I think Dawg fans have the sense that Richt’s teams have lost the killer instinct. Even without AJ Green and others, they had a shot to win all 4 of those early season games, but found a way to lose them instead. Past Richt teams would have won at least 2 of those.
That leaves doubt in the fan’s minds.
beej
November 22nd, 2010
5:14 pm
Nice article. This is what sports journalism is SUPPOSED to look like. Tell your friends at the AJC.
Suggestion:
Your sample size is pretty small. Do a followup article. Run the same set of numbers for the past 3 years, and compare win/loss records vs Bowl Subdivision teams. (i.e. throw out the home openers vs pansies) I think you’ll find that the numbers change quite a bit.
Personally, as a fan who’s payed quite a bit of attention to Tech the past three years, and has spent quite a bit of time studying game film in that effort, I think that the extra week to prepare definitely does help, but not in the way most people think. What I’ve noticed, is that teams with the extra week to prepare are much more likely to be able to avoid Tech’s blocks. I think the extra week isn’t so much a scheme thing as it is a technique thing.
Another interesting thing you should write about, is the records of teams the week AFTER they play Tech. A VT fan on a discussion board did some analysis of that, and the results were quite surprising. Teams are significantly worse the week after they play Tech than average. Not sure why.
time4TechOldGold
November 22nd, 2010
5:18 pm
I do not look forward to seeing all players in black stockings. For Georgia that is ok, but not also for Tech. Since when is black one of Tech’s colors? Black GT’s? I can’t stand them. Tech never had them when I was there in the early 70’s. I remember the 1968 Mexico City Summer Olympics and black John Carlos winning the gold medal in the 220 and 100, and another of his black teammates getting the silver, and when the National Anthem was played, these blacks held their fists up and heads down in a black power salute. Then a few years later when I was at Tech, a white guy who was in one of my history classes and on the track and football teams broke the world record in the 220. I watched him in the 220 on a race on tv, which he won, and he had TECH right across the chest of his t-shirt. He was also in the Army then, but he wore TECH, and I really was proud of that. He never played in football, but did make the team as a receiver. Perhaps these blacks on Tech’s team are trying to bring back black power to the Tech track program by wanting to wear black stockings and make everbody forget about Ben Vaughn’s being white and breaking the world record established by black John Carlos. Us white alums aint’ gonna let em. The head of the alum assn already said “black is out” in a late 80’s copy of the Tech Topics alum newsletter. Wer’e waiting on CPJ to read a copy of that issue.
Mark . . . . my Word
November 22nd, 2010
5:18 pm
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Georgia Tech is undefeated in Athens Under Coach Paul Johnson.
Mike Smith
November 22nd, 2010
5:24 pm
@Jekyl and heckel – if you know as much about football as you say, you would realize that you cant compare scores the way you have. UGA played Colorado after having played 3 ranked teams in a row and basically as a team desperate for a win. It was their first game with a full team, they had control of the game, and then let it slip away quite literally at the end. Also Colorado had a week off to prepare for the game.
Tech was dominated for 3 quarters by a Kansas team that had lost to North Dakota St. in week one. It was the second game of the season after SC St. Tech had their full team on the field and should have been well rested and prepared. They were not.
Johnny O
November 22nd, 2010
5:27 pm
Refreshing comments, many cutting their own team. I do too.
Tech Forever
November 22nd, 2010
5:29 pm
Jekyl and heckel
I’ve forgotten more about football than you’ll ever know. You thought Tech was going to win last year….called for it….screamed it from the highest of heights. I picked UGA and was scorned…..but got the last laugh.
This game is over right now not so much because of what Georgia is but because of what Tech isn’t. Tech’s apss defense is atrocious and our rush defense might actually be worse. Our Special Teams are a study in complete incompetence.
And who’s the idiot? You throw out the 7 Degrees Of Separation “logic” as to why Tech’s loss to Kansas is superior to Georgia’s loss to Colorado??? Are you kidding me? What’s next? Are you going to try and convince everyone here that somehow Baylor really won the 2004 National Championship? Wait……yep…..I did……just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Tech struggles away from Atlanta….period. So there’s your MSU, UF, Aub., UK, and USC losses for Tech. Arkansas? We just made Duke’s QB look like Peyton Manning what do you think Arkansas’ would do against us? That’s 6. Tennessee in Atlanta? Granted this was a tough one to analyze but they basically won in Death Valley and played Carolina tough. Tech eeaked past Duke at home, looked less than spectacular against UVA, and got WORKED by VT and Miami. That’s 7 losses. So, assuming you’re correct and give UGA’s schedule “way” too much credit, I’ll grant you a Tech win over Colorado. There 4-7 instead of 3-8. Feel better?
Georgia at home covers this spread.
Just like the barbershop……”NEXT!!!!!”
ga tech 92
November 22nd, 2010
5:39 pm
UGA’s 3-4-5 star recruits + GT’s 2-3-4 star recruits + UGA getting better as the year goes on + GT looking weak and mistake prone ALL year + UGA at home = UGA should totally beat down GT around 51 to 10ish. I love the Jackets, but I also have common sense. Go Jackets
Tech Forever
November 22nd, 2010
5:43 pm
ga tech 92
Well put, but it won’t be THAT bad. Something to the tune of 42 – 24. I will say this….the only way UGA doesn’t put up 28+ in the first half is because of their own errors. Hell, Green might have 28 in the first half all by himself.
Bob
November 22nd, 2010
5:55 pm
PJ has destroyed the program.His recruiting is beyond horrendous.He has to be fired.His offense is a joke and who will want to go to Tch to run it?Southern conference players!!!!!
DoakBoyGT
November 22nd, 2010
5:56 pm
I think this game could come down to who wins the turnover battle
ga tech 92
November 22nd, 2010
6:01 pm
Bob – I don’t agree. I think we need someone who runs a non-traditional style offense, which attracts less than the best quality football player. This is because we do NOT get good enough players to compete with football factories playing straight up traditional football. We need smoke and mirrors to make up for ’star’ recruiting. Now, I’m not sure if CPJ is the end all answer forever; however, he did more his first two years than anyone in quite a while (even better than the guy who’s players CPJ inherited). What I disagree with is ‘firing’. Hewitt needs to be fired, because his contract will never end otherwise. CPJ needs to be given enough time for his contract to play out. Either CPJ will show us more good seasons (like the first two), or he won’t. Either way, we need to quit paying coaches to NOT coach…except Hewitt…and then NEVER sign another stupid never ending contract like that.
ga tech 92
November 22nd, 2010
6:07 pm
Someone tell me the last year that any major recruiting service ranked our incoming football freshmen higher than UGA’s? …time passes…. Now that we’re back to reality and not forgetting that no coach has gotten better talent than the football factory in Athens…What sort of offense can be expected to beat superior competition anyway? Bigger, stronger, faster is always a problem for us. We have to have smoke and mirrors…either that or we need to quit expecting to beat football factories. History has clearly shown us, we don’t often beat football factories…so let’s keep it in perspective.
J Clay
November 22nd, 2010
6:12 pm
What about Tech’s performance in bowl games? Granted that is not 1 extra week but several….still looks like Tech is definitely at a disadvantage when a team has extra time to prepare
Tech Man
November 22nd, 2010
6:13 pm
The problem is we can’t execute.
ga tech 92
November 22nd, 2010
6:16 pm
J Clay – I agree. The eye-ball-test shows me that our offense is easier for teams to deal with, the more practice (time) they have against it.
Rockdale Jacket
November 22nd, 2010
6:20 pm
Tech Forever:
I think the score will be worse. Funny comment about A.J.
Green. He is probably good enough to throw a pass and then go catch it himself
Doug Roberson
November 22nd, 2010
6:30 pm
beej, i didn’t think the past three years would be a good sample size because the teams change so dramatically from year to year.
ga tech 92
November 22nd, 2010
6:31 pm
Aye, Green is ubber good. Their O-line is the most experienced O-line in the country, based on starts, I think we all know their running backs are highly touted, the QB is no longer a freshman (basically)…we may not get them to punt one time all game.
destin dawg
November 22nd, 2010
6:31 pm
glad to see GT got Bowl eligible… fitting they go to Shreveport… Dawgs are headed north…. Techies headed south.. it should prove a blow out.. Richt needs to COACH !!! we have the talent… let BoBo have the weekend off ..our offense is SO predictable… have we EVER done an onside kick , reverse, fake punt ???????? we watch ‘em BEAT us with Trickeretion….
Gtfan11
November 22nd, 2010
6:37 pm
@ dawginlex. I appreciate your honesty. It is rare to see a dawg fan on the Tech blog with any sense of class. With that said, Tech has struggled against the weakest of foes ALL year. As bad as I hate to say it, GA will have a field day on our defense and special teams. Our offense has sputtered all year especially in the red zone. So I don’t think you will need a nose guard. Give him a night off. Maybe then we might be able to stay within the spread.
Paul Johnson hasn’t gotten this team up most of the year and then blames the players on not executing. There is a point where the coaches have to take some of the responsibility.
Paul has a small Johnson
November 22nd, 2010
6:45 pm
GT gave up 400 yards to Duke,DUKE.The bugs are toast.Get ready for your yearly loss to UGA bugs.4 free hotdogs + 4 free Cokes = the joke by Coke.
HAHAHA
Brad
November 22nd, 2010
6:45 pm
It does matter, because the play in the weak ACC!
Viva GwinneXico
November 22nd, 2010
7:05 pm
Here’s the real issue guys;
Here we live in the state that’s in 3rd place nation wide when it comes to producing D-1 talent.
Its a shame that we’re going into the rivalry game and the home team records are shameful.
GT (6-5) vs. UGA (5-6). Say what you want about Tech’s offense but they should get their fair share of instate talent. UGA actually gets some pretty good talent but they have D-2 calibre coaching.
Both fanbases should take a real good look at their respective teams and look at just how pathetic the teams have performed. A rebuilding year should consist of 3 to 4 losses at a MAXIMUM, anything beyond that should get your azz FIRED!
Bob
November 22nd, 2010
7:19 pm
Is this a joke? Comparing UGA to the loser pansies Tech usually plays is laughable.
Sheesh Jackson
November 23rd, 2010
4:56 am
IMO, the stats that you have here are pointless. The only way to truly tell if having extra time to prepare is to have one team play GT with extra time then erase all that preparation from their minds and have that same team play GT again with a normal amount of time to prepare. We have to be able to know what the same team what have done with a different amount of time to prepare to truly know. jmo
Yellow Britches
November 23rd, 2010
8:32 am
38-10 UGA. I don’t like it but how can it turn out otherwise. We have no defense. Georgia can run up the middle like they did last year. We have no pass defense, put no pressure on the quarterback and are vulnerable at the corners. If UGA turns the ball over three times, and we run some clock it could be closer but can how can we win this one?
damngooddawg!
November 23rd, 2010
6:58 pm
It’s been a heck of a season, but maybe we can find a way to keep it close against you guys and possibly win it late…with some luck, of course. To hell with Auburn!