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Tech’s GSR improves, but football team scores low

1:33 pm October 27, 2010, by Doug Roberson

While Georgia Tech’s overall Graduation Success Rate rose to its highest level, the football team posted the lowest score among ACC schools, according to data released today by the NCAA.

Tech’s teams averaged a 75 GSR, which tracks the graduation rate for student-athletes and transfer students who enrolled between 2000-03. It was the fourth consecutive year the score improved. Tech attributed the increase to an 82-percent graduation rate for the 2003 enrollees. The national average is 79. The NCAA releases the figures annually for rolling four-year periods.

The football team scored a 49 for the second consecutive year. Duke posted the highest score (95) among football teams in the ACC.

Men’s basketball posted the lowest score (36) among Tech’s teams.  Maryland (31) scored worst among ACC schools in that sport. Wake Forest (100) posted the highest score.

Three Tech teams — men’s golf, and men’s tennis and women’s swimming — posted perfect scores (100).

Here are this year’s scores:

2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 75
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 83
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 36
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 49
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 94
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 90
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 77
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 87
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 88
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 88
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 92

Key findings from the graduation-rate data include the following, according to the NCAA:

  • GSR for entering class of 2003: 79 percent
  • GSR for entering classes of 2000-2003: 79 percent
  • 2000-2003 GSR for male student-athletes: 72 percent
  • 2000-2003 GSR for female student-athletes: 87 percent
  • Federal graduation rate for student-athletes who started college in 2003: 64 percent
  • Federal graduation rate for general students who started college in 2003: 63 percent
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 75 59
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 71 56
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 70 55
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 69 57
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 69 59
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 67 57
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 83 27
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 83 28
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 57 21
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 61 28
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 65 28
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 43 21
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 36 33
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 38 33
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 50 42
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 42 27
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 42 23
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 31 14
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 49 42
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 49 41
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 48 40
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 51 43
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 55 48
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 53 47
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 88
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 83
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 89
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 88
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 89
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 91
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 94 67
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 100 68
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 100 78
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 100 81
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 94 83
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 93 87
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 86
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 83
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 80
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 86
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 83 100
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 86 71
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 90 89
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 81 84
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 77 77
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 70 70
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 68 68
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 69 69
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 77 69
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 73 63
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 69 57
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 69 59
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 64 56
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 62 57
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 87 85
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 86 85
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 87 86
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 94 93
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 93 93
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 100 93
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100 90
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100 86
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100 88
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 88 43
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 71 25
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 80 38
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 83 50
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 86 63
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 100 86
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 88 71
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 78 68
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 72 66
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 73 71
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 73 74
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 74 74
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 92 80
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 92 85
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 85
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 80
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 82
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 85
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Spohedus

October 27th, 2010
1:55 pm

this just in, Tech is hard. First?

ormewood

October 27th, 2010
2:01 pm

And Duke, UNC, UVA, Wake are not also difficult? Neither football nor hoops is above 50%. Not good.

M K

October 27th, 2010
2:11 pm

Duke, UNC, UVA, and Wake all have easier majors than Management (it’s true) in which they can hide their student-athletes. Go look up how many of their SAs have to take calculus and compare that with the number of ours who do.

guy

October 27th, 2010
2:12 pm

players that leave early for the NFL/NBA count against the graduation rate as it’s currently calculated right? not to say that it’s an excuse for lower scores, but it’s a contributing factor.

Al Groh

October 27th, 2010
2:49 pm

Me and Paul hope and pray that Josh Nibbler passes his very tough engineering classes so he can attend our fish fry. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

paulie johnson

October 27th, 2010
2:57 pm

Not sure if this evidences GT players are morons or that GT is hard…probably a combination of the two.

Concrete Pete

October 27th, 2010
3:01 pm

Tech hard? For some (non athlete) students, yes. But Tech jocks still major in “university studies”. As much as you try, you can’t correctly say that UGA has anything similar to that. The one good thing that Jan Kemp did was force the athletes to pass legit courses, just like the student body.

Ozzy

October 27th, 2010
3:03 pm

Uh huh, sure Pete.

GDBurdell

October 27th, 2010
3:03 pm

high overall grad rates mean your school is easy, low ncaa grad rates mean the athletes are transferring out to real schools

RK

October 27th, 2010
3:10 pm

GT did worse than a school that has cows on campus?

Ahmed

October 27th, 2010
3:13 pm

True story: I was waiting at the gate in NYC for a flight to Vegas in the late 90’s. Stephon Marbury was waiting for the same flight, and I was in ear shot of the conversation between he and a Tech alum that recognized him. Instead of just saying “hey man I’m a Tech guy, I’m a fan”, he tried talking to Stephon about the campus, classes, etc. Stephon was clueless about buildings on campus, instructors, everything academic related. Finally Stephon just said, “look man, I’m gonna be real with you, I didn’t do the school thing down there, I was playing ball”

Say it ain't so, Techies...

October 27th, 2010
3:14 pm

…”Georgia had a 68-percent graduation rate in football. It ranked second in the SEC, behind Vanderbilt, in graduation success rate. Georgia Tech’s overall graduation success rate rose to its highest level, the football team, however, posted the lowest score among ACC schools, with a 49.

And basketball was the lowest of all – “in men’s basketball, 12 of the teams in the final Top 25 poll produced grad rates of 50 percent or worse under NCAA calculations. Four schools scored in the 30s — California (30), Connecticut (31), Michigan and Georgia Tech (36)” – that is lowest in the ACC… and M K, that tired old saying about having to take calculus is, well, old and tired…

Yep, athletes who go to Tech really are interested in an education all right…

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:17 pm

Doug conveniently left out that since Johnson has been here, that number has been MUCH higher.

Gailey couldn’t win OR get his guys to go to class.

Johnson demands both.

How bout an edit with Johnson’s numbers, Doug?

Concrete Pete

October 27th, 2010
3:17 pm

Ozzy look it up. That’s a fact. I’m sure you already know that if you are a Tech guy. Hey, be glad that you don’t have to try and win with real college students. No one pays to see the the teams because of their GPA

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
3:21 pm

Concrete Pete – “But Tech jocks still major in “university studies”.

Here’s the breakdown for the football team for 2010:

GT 2010 Upperclassmen Majors:

Updated for 2010 on 9/30/2010
11 players – Management (one in masters program)
4 players – Civil Engineering
1 player- Biology (Punter)
1 player – Biotechnology
1 player – Aerospace Engineering (All-ACC Center)
2 players – Mechanical Engineering (Starting WR)
2 players – Industrial Engineering
1 player – Computer & Electrical Engineering (PK)
1 Player – Building Construction
1 player – History, Science and Technology (starting DB/VaTech xfer)
1 player – Economics and International Releations
1 player – Sociology

2 players – All-ACC Academic team (2 starters, A-back and DT)

Matt Winkeljohn

October 27th, 2010
3:24 pm

There is no university studies major at Tech. Iowa has one, though.

Old Bee

October 27th, 2010
3:26 pm

I am so old that I remember when boys attended Tech to get a degree rather than hang around and play a sport and then whither away.

Emerald Bowl

October 27th, 2010
3:27 pm

Iowa also has a BCS win

RichieRich86

October 27th, 2010
3:28 pm

this is great. GT players sure are smart huh? Go Dawgs!

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:29 pm

test

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:29 pm

Okay, I’ll try again, since this didn’t go through the first five times.

“Tech’s football program earned a multi-year rate of 957, which significantly exceeds the average produced by all FBS teams (941) and all Division I (both FBS and FCS) teams (939). Every member of Paul Johnson’s 2008 football team was academically eligible to play in the Chick-fil-A Bowl, and a record 29 Yellow Jacket football players earned Dean’s List honors. ”

Source: http://www2.wjbf.com/sports/2009/may/06/local_colleges_release_academic_progress_rate_stat-ar-227332/

“The NCAA has released APR scores by teams for the past six years. On Thursday, it released annual scores for that same span (2002-08) that are specific to head coaches. For example, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson’s 982 average score, which tied for the highest among football coaches in either conference, is from 4 1/2 seasons at Navy and 1 1/2 at Tech.”

Source: http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/acc-tops-sec-in-587133.html

Wow, Doug, that’s from the AJC. You wouldn’t have to work too hard to find that information.

Maybe you would just rather post a negative article, sow discord, and watch as the comments grow.

Bark Madley is teaching you well, young Dawg Roberson.

Emerald Bowl

October 27th, 2010
3:29 pm

To RK,but you have your female injunnreeers

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:30 pm

It won’t let me post articles based on Paul Johnson’s APR.

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:30 pm

Seriously, Doug?

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:31 pm

Why can’t I post other articles in defense of Johnson?

Hey, Rambleon84...

October 27th, 2010
3:31 pm

…there are no graduation success records compiled by the NCAA for Johnson as yet (he has only been here two years so he has not had ANYBODY that he brought in graduate as yet since you cannot graduate in 2 years, no matter where you go to college), so just take your lumps with what is available about GT and STFU…

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:31 pm

Pathetic attempt to bash Tech

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:32 pm

There actually are records compiled for him…unfortunately the AJC will not let me post what I have tried to post here 7 or 8 times now.

One of them even comes from the AJC.

TDone

October 27th, 2010
3:33 pm

Concrete Pete, do you work for MSNBC? You must with the disinformation you are spreading. This is the definition of University Studies: University studies is an academic major at some universities designed to give students a wide breadth of liberal arts education, rather than focusing on a specific major field of study.

Now here are the degree programs offered by Tech (See URL): http://www.gatech.edu/degrees/.

Now please University Studies in this curriculum.

You have lost whatever credibility you did not have.

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:33 pm

http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/acc-tops-sec-in-587133.html

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:34 pm

Taken directly from that article:

“The NCAA has released APR scores by teams for the past six years. On Thursday, it released annual scores for that same span (2002-08) that are specific to head coaches. For example, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson’s 982 average score, which tied for the highest among football coaches in either conference, is from 4 1/2 seasons at Navy and 1 1/2 at Tech.”

For the record, 1000 is perfect.

So, Delbert D...

October 27th, 2010
3:34 pm

…do you really think GT only has 23 upperclassmen football players? Are you telling us that GT has 62 freshmen and sophomores on scholarship?

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:35 pm

Another:
“Tech’s football program earned a multi-year rate of 957, which significantly exceeds the average produced by all FBS teams (941) and all Division I (both FBS and FCS) teams (939). Every member of Paul Johnson’s 2008 football team was academically eligible to play in the Chick-fil-A Bowl, and a record 29 Yellow Jacket football players earned Dean’s List honors.”

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:35 pm

Source: http://www2.wjbf.com/sports/2009/may/06/local_colleges_release_academic_progress_rate_stat-ar-227332/

GDBurdell

October 27th, 2010
3:35 pm

I love how the ajc is afraid to come out and say that teck is last place in the acc. ahhahahaha you guys aren’t even having a good season!!!!!!

CAN NOT WAIT for the UGA game

Rufus

October 27th, 2010
3:36 pm

WTF cares if football players graduate?

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:36 pm

That is actually probably true. Johnson has only been here three years and redshirted the majority of his guys, so few true juniors and few redshirt juniors and seniors

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:37 pm

From the previously posted AJC article:

“The NCAA has released APR scores by teams for the past six years. On Thursday, it released annual scores for that same span (2002-08) that are specific to head coaches. For example, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson’s 982 average score, which tied for the highest among football coaches in either conference, is from 4 1/2 seasons at Navy and 1 1/2 at Tech.”

That's rich, RambleOn84...

October 27th, 2010
3:37 pm

…taking credit for Johnson’s Navy teams and his 1.5 years at Tech with guys recruited by someone else – in case you failed to notice, this is NOT about individual coaches but about universities and their ability to graduate athletes…

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:38 pm

Dawg Roberson is just trying to gain comments by posting a negative article without telling the whole story.

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:38 pm

OK, so should Dennis Felton be held accountable for the practices of Jim Harrick?

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:43 pm

It is no secret that Gailey had a problem with winning and with discipline.

Truly a loser in every sense of the word…no surprise.

I am just disappointed that Doug did not note that Johnson has done a MUCH better job in the short time he’s been here.

Geez, RambleOn84...

October 27th, 2010
3:43 pm

…what have Felton and Harrick got to do with football player graduation rates – talk about being obsesses with UGA…

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:45 pm

…coming from a Dog fan on a Tech blog

Or maybe, RambleOn84...

October 27th, 2010
3:45 pm

…Gailey’s last couple of classes were more inclined to go to class and graduate than were his first couple of recruiting classes – CPJ had nothing to do with those numbers…

GDBurdell

October 27th, 2010
3:46 pm

what is wrong with you tech guys, G^D D%M, being really proud of slanting some numbers to make yourself look right?-is that all they teach you people down there

I got no dawg in this game...

October 27th, 2010
3:46 pm

…I went to Davidson, where REAL student athletes (and lousy HS football players) go to college…

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:47 pm

Or maybe global warming caused them to all go to class

Face it RambleOn84...

October 27th, 2010
3:48 pm

…you lost this argument…

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:49 pm

Actually I didn’t.

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:50 pm

I have posted two different articles citing Johnson’s MUCH better APR scores, but they won’t go through. Maybe I can give you one letter at a time.

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:50 pm

Dawg Roberson’s virtual bodyguards should go sit on a tack

Miami

October 27th, 2010
3:51 pm

Check where Miami ranks. Only two schools in current BCS standings are ranked in the top 10 of graduation success rate: Stanford and Miami. Only schools ahead of Miami in grad success: Notre Dame, Duke, Northwestern, Boston College, Vandy, Rutgers, Stanford, Penn St and Washington.

just saying

October 27th, 2010
3:52 pm

Wake up people if a player wants to get his paper hewilldo what it takes . If he came just to play ball the coaches will use him until his five years are up and show him the door. We never hear about the real SA who finished early less than four years and either stay or move on to further their education, how many do that at UGA……..

Jeffrey

October 27th, 2010
3:52 pm

Look at the caliber of individuals the basketball team recruits. Hell, they only play one year, then leave for the pros. I can’t blame them for leaving for the pros. They make a helluva lot more money than I do, but it is sad they don’t care about an education.

str8shooter

October 27th, 2010
3:52 pm

Seven year old data – no story here. Surely they have more current data than that.

SteveGR

October 27th, 2010
3:53 pm

A Tech Engineering degree is typically not attained in four years. Most full time students require about 4.5 years to complete. Determined by number of classes/ hours required to graduate.

juvenal

October 27th, 2010
3:54 pm

so what is the gsr for the average frosh?-2/3?-just like it’s always been-fsu brought the deion rule, stopped a lot of the stephon stuff, but leinhart took 4 hrs. his sr yr(kud have been a dud a yr sooner)-we lose players all the time, but not because they transfer to the ivy league-& braine was VERY unpopular for all the academic stuff, & no longer works at GT, or all my $ would go to the Alumni Asociation..

NativeAtlantan

October 27th, 2010
3:58 pm

Make every single UGA football player go through Terry and major in Business…then you can compare Tech and UGA graduation rates.

Old Dawg

October 27th, 2010
4:00 pm

Check the math, Paul Johnson is in his THIRD year at Tech, not second.

Jase

October 27th, 2010
4:02 pm

Doug – What is the overall graduation rate for Tech football players? Who cares if an athlete graduates in four years rather than five?

historydawg

October 27th, 2010
4:05 pm

Remember when the Tech grad rates were higher, and the same Techies, now differentiating curriculum, argued such was proof of Tech’s academic superiority. Oh, to be sophomoric in every way.

GDBurdell

October 27th, 2010
4:10 pm

tech engineers aren’t that good now, wait until UGA opens up their school next year

Doug Roberson

October 27th, 2010
4:13 pm

Rambleon, those APR numbers have nothing to do with Johnson’s time at Tech. The numbers for his players won’t be out until 2015 or 2016.

GT12

October 27th, 2010
4:16 pm

GDBurdell

Ya. We’re terrified of competing with ugag in the same majors. Kind of that like that dismal MBA program we started just a few years ago…

Oh wait! That’s right! It’s a Top 25 ranked program after only a few years of existing! And the ‘flagship’ school’s MBA program is unranked. Awww… so sowwy.

Coach

October 27th, 2010
4:18 pm

There should be a better indicator than graduation. Does graduation really mean anything at some of these schools? Real news (that you rarely, if ever, hear) would be a star “student-athlete” flunking out at one of the other schools. Does anyone recall such a thing?

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
4:22 pm

@So, Delbert D…
October 27th, 2010
3:34 pm

“…do you really think GT only has 23 upperclassmen football players?”

Actually, those are upperclassmen lettermen. Here are the names:

Anthony Allen, SR, starting B-Back: bio not updated-(Louisville XFER)
Chandler Anderson, JR starting P: Biology
Anthony Barnes, SR starting LB: Management
Austin Barrick, SR starting OL: Management
Sean Bedford, SR starting center: Aerospace Engineering (1st Team All-ACC)
Scott Blair, SR starting K: Computer/Electrical Engineering
Mario Butler, SR starting CB: Management
Nick Claytor, JR, starting OL: bio not updated
Ben Anderson, SR, 2nd team NT: Management
Kevin Cone, SR, starting WR: Mechanical Engineering
Lucas Cox, SR 2nd team B-back: Management
Correy Earls, SR starting WR: Management
Zach Krish, SR 2nd team OT – Civil Engineering
Mario Edwards, SR starting DB: History, Science, and Technology (VT XFER)
Anthony Egbuniwe, SR starting DE: Management
Brad Jefferson, JR starting LB: not updated
Jason Peters, JR DE: Not updated (Academic All-State)
Roddy Jones, JR starting A-back: bio not updated (2008 & 2009 All-ACC Academic team)
Joshua Nesbitt, SR starting QB: Management
Dominique Reese, SR starting DB: Management
Logan Walls, JR starting NT: not updated (2009 All-ACC Academic team)
Robert Hall, SR* DE: Management, Civil engineering (*Spring 2010 grad)
Michael Peterson JR: bio not updated ACC Academic Honor Roll 2009-10
Malcolm Munroe JR special teams/OLB: Biotechnology

Undergrads with intended majors- Added 10/27/2010

Emmanual Dieke, Starting DE – Biomedical Engineering
Izaan Cross, Starting DE – Management
Euclid Cummings, 2nd team DE – Management
Ray Beno, 2nd team C – Engineering
Julian Burnette, starting LB – Management

Also:
Daniel McKayhan, special teams/WR – (National Honor Society

Tech is going to the toilet bowl

October 27th, 2010
4:33 pm

RambleON84, you have serious mental issues. I suggest you seek professional help or someone may end up finding you hanging from the ceiling. For pete’s sake lighten up a little bit. As a dawg fan I will admit that Tech is a good school but just freakin admit that the atheletes you guys recruit too the flats are no smarter or superior than any other school. Tech is a good school but some of you techies need to quit acting like it is Harvard or Stanford because it is NOT. Tech is not even the top academic school in the ACC, so quit using that as an excuse for getting whipped in sports, because it is getting old. Guys like stephon marbury and kenny anderson are absolute proof that you guys will take any great player regardless of academics. Marbury couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the C and the T.

Reality

October 27th, 2010
4:55 pm

The Reality of Tech not being in the top of the ACC academically, though, is that above us is ranked Duke, Virginia, and UNC. I believe there are 5 ACC schools ranked better than THE ENTIRE SEC, outside of possibly Vandy.

Reality

October 27th, 2010
4:57 pm

By the way, per Doug’s comment, none of this has anything to do with Paul Johnson or the present. This is 2000-2003 for God’s sake. That was the team with Reggie “1,2,3,5,4″ Ball on it.

bumbles jackets

October 27th, 2010
5:24 pm

Another testament to GT excellence. When is the sucker fry Paul? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
5:50 pm

” Guys like stephon marbury and kenny anderson are absolute proof that you guys will take any great player regardless of academics.”

Kenny Anderson graduated this year from St. Thomas University.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Kenny-Anderson-after-retiring-broke-graduates-?urn=nba-240794

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
5:55 pm

Reality – From US News&World Report rankings:

ACC

Duke (10) (AAU)
UVa (24) (AAU)
Wake (28, tie)
UNC (28, tie) (AAU)
Boston College (34)
GT (35) (AAU)
Miami (50)
Maryland (53) (AAU)
Clemson (61)
VT (71)
NCSU (88)
FSU (102)

SEC

Vandy (17) (AAU)
UF (47) (AAU)
UGa (58)
Auburn (88)
Ala (96)
Tenn (106)
SC (110)
LSU, Kent, Ark (128, tie)
MSU, OM (tier 3)

agt45

October 27th, 2010
6:03 pm

ESPN did a short story about grad rates back when Huggins was at Cinci with his 0% grad rate. Cinci took in a lot of JUCO’s who all graduated but they don’t count. They also had a ton of kids transfer to other schools and still graduate within the 5 year window who also didn’t count. My point is that the score MIGHT not be indicative of the true results. We should be concerned that these SA’s graduate from somewhere even if they don’t finish up at their original school.

Reality Stinks

October 27th, 2010
6:37 pm

Like I said the athletic department is a joke

If they really took ligit classes at Tech you would field only 11 ball players, just enough to play a game

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
6:41 pm

@Reality Stinks – Tell us more about those “ligit classes.”

Tech is going to the toilet bowl

October 27th, 2010
6:59 pm

Delbert so what is you’re point? Kenny Anderson graduated 24 years after enrolling in college from the saint thomas institute of online KMART degrees. lol. You just made my point that much better. Anderson blew thru 60 million dollars in career earnings and is now broke, so he enrolls in a cheap online degree program. Yes he is a very bright fellow indeed.

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
7:10 pm

@Tech is…”Delbert so what is you’re point?”

I can relate to that, except for the fame and $60 million. I had the privilege of attending 8 universities; 14 years to get my Bachelor’s, and then my Master’s 22 years after that.

Reality Stinks

October 27th, 2010
7:52 pm

Yea I think that is how tech players stay eligible the Kmart online Sanitation Engineering degree

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GTMD75

October 27th, 2010
10:07 pm

Most football factories recruit better because they have easier admiision standards and majors for their student athletes. I would venture to say that student athletes are given special considerations at most schools. Many 5 Star football players will immediately eliminate schools from their choice due to higher academic standards at those schools as they know they have no chance of graduating and that those schools are not football factories. Reality is that GT is hard. You however get out of school what you are willing to put into it. GT was harder than medical school.

wesleywhatwhat

October 27th, 2010
10:10 pm

not impressive.

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
10:29 pm

GTMD75 – When I read the reasons that some recruits give for choosing a school include “for the academics”, it makes me wonder what their hosts at the school told them on the visit. That can have two very different meanings.

Jared

October 28th, 2010
10:02 am

Pair this with the fact that Tech football players have the highest average SAT score in the entire country…