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Tech’s GSR improves, but football team scores low

1:33 pm October 27, 2010, by Doug Roberson

While Georgia Tech’s overall Graduation Success Rate rose to its highest level, the football team posted the lowest score among ACC schools, according to data released today by the NCAA.

Tech’s teams averaged a 75 GSR, which tracks the graduation rate for student-athletes and transfer students who enrolled between 2000-03. It was the fourth consecutive year the score improved. Tech attributed the increase to an 82-percent graduation rate for the 2003 enrollees. The national average is 79. The NCAA releases the figures annually for rolling four-year periods.

The football team scored a 49 for the second consecutive year. Duke posted the highest score (95) among football teams in the ACC.

Men’s basketball posted the lowest score (36) among Tech’s teams.  Maryland (31) scored worst among ACC schools in that sport. Wake Forest (100) posted the highest score.

Three Tech teams — men’s golf, and men’s tennis and women’s swimming — posted perfect scores (100).

Here are this year’s scores:

2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 75
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 83
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 36
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 49
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 94
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 90
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 77
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 87
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 88
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 88
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 92

Key findings from the graduation-rate data include the following, according to the NCAA:

  • GSR for entering class of 2003: 79 percent
  • GSR for entering classes of 2000-2003: 79 percent
  • 2000-2003 GSR for male student-athletes: 72 percent
  • 2000-2003 GSR for female student-athletes: 87 percent
  • Federal graduation rate for student-athletes who started college in 2003: 64 percent
  • Federal graduation rate for general students who started college in 2003: 63 percent
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 75 59
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 71 56
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 70 55
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 69 57
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 69 59
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Overall GA 67 57
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 83 27
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 83 28
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 57 21
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 61 28
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 65 28
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball GA 43 21
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 36 33
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 38 33
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 50 42
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 42 27
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 42 23
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball GA 31 14
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 49 42
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 49 41
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 48 40
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 51 43
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 55 48
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Football GA 53 47
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 88
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 83
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 89
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 88
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 89
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Golf GA 100 91
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 94 67
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 100 68
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 100 78
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 100 81
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 94 83
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Swimming GA 93 87
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 86
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 83
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 80
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 100 86
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 83 100
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Tennis GA 86 71
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 90 89
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 81 84
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 77 77
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 70 70
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 68 68
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Track GA 69 69
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 77 69
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 73 63
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 69 57
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 69 59
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 64 56
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Basketball GA 62 57
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 87 85
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 86 85
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 87 86
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 94 93
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 93 93
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Softball GA 100 93
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100 90
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100 86
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Swimming GA 100 88
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 88 43
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 71 25
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 80 38
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 83 50
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 86 63
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Tennis GA 100 86
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 88 71
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 78 68
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 72 66
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 73 71
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 73 74
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Track GA 74 74
2003 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 92 80
2002 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 92 85
2001 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 85
2000 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 80
1999 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 82
1998 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlantic Coast Conference Women’s Volleyball GA 100 85
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83 comments Add your comment

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:50 pm

I have posted two different articles citing Johnson’s MUCH better APR scores, but they won’t go through. Maybe I can give you one letter at a time.

RambleOn84

October 27th, 2010
3:50 pm

Dawg Roberson’s virtual bodyguards should go sit on a tack

Miami

October 27th, 2010
3:51 pm

Check where Miami ranks. Only two schools in current BCS standings are ranked in the top 10 of graduation success rate: Stanford and Miami. Only schools ahead of Miami in grad success: Notre Dame, Duke, Northwestern, Boston College, Vandy, Rutgers, Stanford, Penn St and Washington.

just saying

October 27th, 2010
3:52 pm

Wake up people if a player wants to get his paper hewilldo what it takes . If he came just to play ball the coaches will use him until his five years are up and show him the door. We never hear about the real SA who finished early less than four years and either stay or move on to further their education, how many do that at UGA……..

Jeffrey

October 27th, 2010
3:52 pm

Look at the caliber of individuals the basketball team recruits. Hell, they only play one year, then leave for the pros. I can’t blame them for leaving for the pros. They make a helluva lot more money than I do, but it is sad they don’t care about an education.

str8shooter

October 27th, 2010
3:52 pm

Seven year old data – no story here. Surely they have more current data than that.

SteveGR

October 27th, 2010
3:53 pm

A Tech Engineering degree is typically not attained in four years. Most full time students require about 4.5 years to complete. Determined by number of classes/ hours required to graduate.

juvenal

October 27th, 2010
3:54 pm

so what is the gsr for the average frosh?-2/3?-just like it’s always been-fsu brought the deion rule, stopped a lot of the stephon stuff, but leinhart took 4 hrs. his sr yr(kud have been a dud a yr sooner)-we lose players all the time, but not because they transfer to the ivy league-& braine was VERY unpopular for all the academic stuff, & no longer works at GT, or all my $ would go to the Alumni Asociation..

NativeAtlantan

October 27th, 2010
3:58 pm

Make every single UGA football player go through Terry and major in Business…then you can compare Tech and UGA graduation rates.

Old Dawg

October 27th, 2010
4:00 pm

Check the math, Paul Johnson is in his THIRD year at Tech, not second.

Jase

October 27th, 2010
4:02 pm

Doug – What is the overall graduation rate for Tech football players? Who cares if an athlete graduates in four years rather than five?

historydawg

October 27th, 2010
4:05 pm

Remember when the Tech grad rates were higher, and the same Techies, now differentiating curriculum, argued such was proof of Tech’s academic superiority. Oh, to be sophomoric in every way.

GDBurdell

October 27th, 2010
4:10 pm

tech engineers aren’t that good now, wait until UGA opens up their school next year

Doug Roberson

October 27th, 2010
4:13 pm

Rambleon, those APR numbers have nothing to do with Johnson’s time at Tech. The numbers for his players won’t be out until 2015 or 2016.

GT12

October 27th, 2010
4:16 pm

GDBurdell

Ya. We’re terrified of competing with ugag in the same majors. Kind of that like that dismal MBA program we started just a few years ago…

Oh wait! That’s right! It’s a Top 25 ranked program after only a few years of existing! And the ‘flagship’ school’s MBA program is unranked. Awww… so sowwy.

Coach

October 27th, 2010
4:18 pm

There should be a better indicator than graduation. Does graduation really mean anything at some of these schools? Real news (that you rarely, if ever, hear) would be a star “student-athlete” flunking out at one of the other schools. Does anyone recall such a thing?

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
4:22 pm

@So, Delbert D…
October 27th, 2010
3:34 pm

“…do you really think GT only has 23 upperclassmen football players?”

Actually, those are upperclassmen lettermen. Here are the names:

Anthony Allen, SR, starting B-Back: bio not updated-(Louisville XFER)
Chandler Anderson, JR starting P: Biology
Anthony Barnes, SR starting LB: Management
Austin Barrick, SR starting OL: Management
Sean Bedford, SR starting center: Aerospace Engineering (1st Team All-ACC)
Scott Blair, SR starting K: Computer/Electrical Engineering
Mario Butler, SR starting CB: Management
Nick Claytor, JR, starting OL: bio not updated
Ben Anderson, SR, 2nd team NT: Management
Kevin Cone, SR, starting WR: Mechanical Engineering
Lucas Cox, SR 2nd team B-back: Management
Correy Earls, SR starting WR: Management
Zach Krish, SR 2nd team OT – Civil Engineering
Mario Edwards, SR starting DB: History, Science, and Technology (VT XFER)
Anthony Egbuniwe, SR starting DE: Management
Brad Jefferson, JR starting LB: not updated
Jason Peters, JR DE: Not updated (Academic All-State)
Roddy Jones, JR starting A-back: bio not updated (2008 & 2009 All-ACC Academic team)
Joshua Nesbitt, SR starting QB: Management
Dominique Reese, SR starting DB: Management
Logan Walls, JR starting NT: not updated (2009 All-ACC Academic team)
Robert Hall, SR* DE: Management, Civil engineering (*Spring 2010 grad)
Michael Peterson JR: bio not updated ACC Academic Honor Roll 2009-10
Malcolm Munroe JR special teams/OLB: Biotechnology

Undergrads with intended majors- Added 10/27/2010

Emmanual Dieke, Starting DE – Biomedical Engineering
Izaan Cross, Starting DE – Management
Euclid Cummings, 2nd team DE – Management
Ray Beno, 2nd team C – Engineering
Julian Burnette, starting LB – Management

Also:
Daniel McKayhan, special teams/WR – (National Honor Society

Tech is going to the toilet bowl

October 27th, 2010
4:33 pm

RambleON84, you have serious mental issues. I suggest you seek professional help or someone may end up finding you hanging from the ceiling. For pete’s sake lighten up a little bit. As a dawg fan I will admit that Tech is a good school but just freakin admit that the atheletes you guys recruit too the flats are no smarter or superior than any other school. Tech is a good school but some of you techies need to quit acting like it is Harvard or Stanford because it is NOT. Tech is not even the top academic school in the ACC, so quit using that as an excuse for getting whipped in sports, because it is getting old. Guys like stephon marbury and kenny anderson are absolute proof that you guys will take any great player regardless of academics. Marbury couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the C and the T.

Reality

October 27th, 2010
4:55 pm

The Reality of Tech not being in the top of the ACC academically, though, is that above us is ranked Duke, Virginia, and UNC. I believe there are 5 ACC schools ranked better than THE ENTIRE SEC, outside of possibly Vandy.

Reality

October 27th, 2010
4:57 pm

By the way, per Doug’s comment, none of this has anything to do with Paul Johnson or the present. This is 2000-2003 for God’s sake. That was the team with Reggie “1,2,3,5,4″ Ball on it.

bumbles jackets

October 27th, 2010
5:24 pm

Another testament to GT excellence. When is the sucker fry Paul? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
5:50 pm

” Guys like stephon marbury and kenny anderson are absolute proof that you guys will take any great player regardless of academics.”

Kenny Anderson graduated this year from St. Thomas University.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Kenny-Anderson-after-retiring-broke-graduates-?urn=nba-240794

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
5:55 pm

Reality – From US News&World Report rankings:

ACC

Duke (10) (AAU)
UVa (24) (AAU)
Wake (28, tie)
UNC (28, tie) (AAU)
Boston College (34)
GT (35) (AAU)
Miami (50)
Maryland (53) (AAU)
Clemson (61)
VT (71)
NCSU (88)
FSU (102)

SEC

Vandy (17) (AAU)
UF (47) (AAU)
UGa (58)
Auburn (88)
Ala (96)
Tenn (106)
SC (110)
LSU, Kent, Ark (128, tie)
MSU, OM (tier 3)

agt45

October 27th, 2010
6:03 pm

ESPN did a short story about grad rates back when Huggins was at Cinci with his 0% grad rate. Cinci took in a lot of JUCO’s who all graduated but they don’t count. They also had a ton of kids transfer to other schools and still graduate within the 5 year window who also didn’t count. My point is that the score MIGHT not be indicative of the true results. We should be concerned that these SA’s graduate from somewhere even if they don’t finish up at their original school.

Reality Stinks

October 27th, 2010
6:37 pm

Like I said the athletic department is a joke

If they really took ligit classes at Tech you would field only 11 ball players, just enough to play a game

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
6:41 pm

@Reality Stinks – Tell us more about those “ligit classes.”

Tech is going to the toilet bowl

October 27th, 2010
6:59 pm

Delbert so what is you’re point? Kenny Anderson graduated 24 years after enrolling in college from the saint thomas institute of online KMART degrees. lol. You just made my point that much better. Anderson blew thru 60 million dollars in career earnings and is now broke, so he enrolls in a cheap online degree program. Yes he is a very bright fellow indeed.

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
7:10 pm

@Tech is…”Delbert so what is you’re point?”

I can relate to that, except for the fame and $60 million. I had the privilege of attending 8 universities; 14 years to get my Bachelor’s, and then my Master’s 22 years after that.

Reality Stinks

October 27th, 2010
7:52 pm

Yea I think that is how tech players stay eligible the Kmart online Sanitation Engineering degree

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GTMD75

October 27th, 2010
10:07 pm

Most football factories recruit better because they have easier admiision standards and majors for their student athletes. I would venture to say that student athletes are given special considerations at most schools. Many 5 Star football players will immediately eliminate schools from their choice due to higher academic standards at those schools as they know they have no chance of graduating and that those schools are not football factories. Reality is that GT is hard. You however get out of school what you are willing to put into it. GT was harder than medical school.

wesleywhatwhat

October 27th, 2010
10:10 pm

not impressive.

Delbert D.

October 27th, 2010
10:29 pm

GTMD75 – When I read the reasons that some recruits give for choosing a school include “for the academics”, it makes me wonder what their hosts at the school told them on the visit. That can have two very different meanings.

Jared

October 28th, 2010
10:02 am

Pair this with the fact that Tech football players have the highest average SAT score in the entire country…

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