Tech’s GSR improves, but football team scores low
While Georgia Tech’s overall Graduation Success Rate rose to its highest level, the football team posted the lowest score among ACC schools, according to data released today by the NCAA.
Tech’s teams averaged a 75 GSR, which tracks the graduation rate for student-athletes and transfer students who enrolled between 2000-03. It was the fourth consecutive year the score improved. Tech attributed the increase to an 82-percent graduation rate for the 2003 enrollees. The national average is 79. The NCAA releases the figures annually for rolling four-year periods.
The football team scored a 49 for the second consecutive year. Duke posted the highest score (95) among football teams in the ACC.
Men’s basketball posted the lowest score (36) among Tech’s teams. Maryland (31) scored worst among ACC schools in that sport. Wake Forest (100) posted the highest score.
Three Tech teams — men’s golf, and men’s tennis and women’s swimming — posted perfect scores (100).
Here are this year’s scores:
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Overall | GA | 75 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Baseball | GA | 83 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Basketball | GA | 36 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Football | GA | 49 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Golf | GA | 100 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Swimming | GA | 94 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Tennis | GA | 100 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Track | GA | 90 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Basketball | GA | 77 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Softball | GA | 87 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Swimming | GA | 100 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Tennis | GA | 88 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Track | GA | 88 | |||
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Volleyball | GA | 92 |
Key findings from the graduation-rate data include the following, according to the NCAA:
- GSR for entering class of 2003: 79 percent
- GSR for entering classes of 2000-2003: 79 percent
- 2000-2003 GSR for male student-athletes: 72 percent
- 2000-2003 GSR for female student-athletes: 87 percent
- Federal graduation rate for student-athletes who started college in 2003: 64 percent
- Federal graduation rate for general students who started college in 2003: 63 percent
| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Overall | GA | 75 | 59 |  |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Overall | GA | 71 | 56 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Overall | GA | 70 | 55 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Overall | GA | 69 | 57 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Overall | GA | 69 | 59 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Overall | GA | 67 | 57 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Baseball | GA | 83 | 27 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Baseball | GA | 83 | 28 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Baseball | GA | 57 | 21 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Baseball | GA | 61 | 28 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Baseball | GA | 65 | 28 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Baseball | GA | 43 | 21 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Basketball | GA | 36 | 33 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Basketball | GA | 38 | 33 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Basketball | GA | 50 | 42 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Basketball | GA | 42 | 27 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Basketball | GA | 42 | 23 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Basketball | GA | 31 | 14 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Football | GA | 49 | 42 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Football | GA | 49 | 41 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Football | GA | 48 | 40 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Football | GA | 51 | 43 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Football | GA | 55 | 48 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Football | GA | 53 | 47 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Golf | GA | 100 | 88 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Golf | GA | 100 | 83 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Golf | GA | 100 | 89 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Golf | GA | 100 | 88 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Golf | GA | 100 | 89 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Golf | GA | 100 | 91 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Swimming | GA | 94 | 67 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Swimming | GA | 100 | 68 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Swimming | GA | 100 | 78 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Swimming | GA | 100 | 81 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Swimming | GA | 94 | 83 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Swimming | GA | 93 | 87 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Tennis | GA | 100 | 86 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Tennis | GA | 100 | 83 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Tennis | GA | 100 | 80 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Tennis | GA | 100 | 86 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Tennis | GA | 83 | 100 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Tennis | GA | 86 | 71 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Track | GA | 90 | 89 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Track | GA | 81 | 84 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Track | GA | 77 | 77 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Track | GA | 70 | 70 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Track | GA | 68 | 68 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Men’s Track | GA | 69 | 69 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Basketball | GA | 77 | 69 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Basketball | GA | 73 | 63 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Basketball | GA | 69 | 57 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Basketball | GA | 69 | 59 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Basketball | GA | 64 | 56 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Basketball | GA | 62 | 57 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Softball | GA | 87 | 85 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Softball | GA | 86 | 85 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Softball | GA | 87 | 86 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Softball | GA | 94 | 93 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Softball | GA | 93 | 93 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Softball | GA | 100 | 93 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Swimming | GA | 100 | 90 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Swimming | GA | 100 | 86 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Swimming | GA | 100 | 88 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Tennis | GA | 88 | 43 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Tennis | GA | 71 | 25 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Tennis | GA | 80 | 38 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Tennis | GA | 83 | 50 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Tennis | GA | 86 | 63 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Tennis | GA | 100 | 86 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Track | GA | 88 | 71 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Track | GA | 78 | 68 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Track | GA | 72 | 66 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Track | GA | 73 | 71 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Track | GA | 73 | 74 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Track | GA | 74 | 74 | |
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| 2003 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Volleyball | GA | 92 | 80 | |
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| 2002 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Volleyball | GA | 92 | 85 | |
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| 2001 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Volleyball | GA | 100 | 85 | |
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| 2000 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Volleyball | GA | 100 | 80 | |
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| 1999 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Volleyball | GA | 100 | 82 | |
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| 1998 | Georgia Institute of Technology | Atlantic Coast Conference | Women’s Volleyball | GA | 100 | 85 |
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83 comments Add your comment
Spohedus
October 27th, 2010
1:55 pm
this just in, Tech is hard. First?
ormewood
October 27th, 2010
2:01 pm
And Duke, UNC, UVA, Wake are not also difficult? Neither football nor hoops is above 50%. Not good.
M K
October 27th, 2010
2:11 pm
Duke, UNC, UVA, and Wake all have easier majors than Management (it’s true) in which they can hide their student-athletes. Go look up how many of their SAs have to take calculus and compare that with the number of ours who do.
guy
October 27th, 2010
2:12 pm
players that leave early for the NFL/NBA count against the graduation rate as it’s currently calculated right? not to say that it’s an excuse for lower scores, but it’s a contributing factor.
Al Groh
October 27th, 2010
2:49 pm
Me and Paul hope and pray that Josh Nibbler passes his very tough engineering classes so he can attend our fish fry. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
paulie johnson
October 27th, 2010
2:57 pm
Not sure if this evidences GT players are morons or that GT is hard…probably a combination of the two.
Concrete Pete
October 27th, 2010
3:01 pm
Tech hard? For some (non athlete) students, yes. But Tech jocks still major in “university studies”. As much as you try, you can’t correctly say that UGA has anything similar to that. The one good thing that Jan Kemp did was force the athletes to pass legit courses, just like the student body.
Ozzy
October 27th, 2010
3:03 pm
Uh huh, sure Pete.
GDBurdell
October 27th, 2010
3:03 pm
high overall grad rates mean your school is easy, low ncaa grad rates mean the athletes are transferring out to real schools
RK
October 27th, 2010
3:10 pm
GT did worse than a school that has cows on campus?
Ahmed
October 27th, 2010
3:13 pm
True story: I was waiting at the gate in NYC for a flight to Vegas in the late 90’s. Stephon Marbury was waiting for the same flight, and I was in ear shot of the conversation between he and a Tech alum that recognized him. Instead of just saying “hey man I’m a Tech guy, I’m a fan”, he tried talking to Stephon about the campus, classes, etc. Stephon was clueless about buildings on campus, instructors, everything academic related. Finally Stephon just said, “look man, I’m gonna be real with you, I didn’t do the school thing down there, I was playing ball”
Say it ain't so, Techies...
October 27th, 2010
3:14 pm
…”Georgia had a 68-percent graduation rate in football. It ranked second in the SEC, behind Vanderbilt, in graduation success rate. Georgia Tech’s overall graduation success rate rose to its highest level, the football team, however, posted the lowest score among ACC schools, with a 49.
And basketball was the lowest of all – “in men’s basketball, 12 of the teams in the final Top 25 poll produced grad rates of 50 percent or worse under NCAA calculations. Four schools scored in the 30s — California (30), Connecticut (31), Michigan and Georgia Tech (36)” – that is lowest in the ACC… and M K, that tired old saying about having to take calculus is, well, old and tired…
Yep, athletes who go to Tech really are interested in an education all right…
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:17 pm
Doug conveniently left out that since Johnson has been here, that number has been MUCH higher.
Gailey couldn’t win OR get his guys to go to class.
Johnson demands both.
How bout an edit with Johnson’s numbers, Doug?
Concrete Pete
October 27th, 2010
3:17 pm
Ozzy look it up. That’s a fact. I’m sure you already know that if you are a Tech guy. Hey, be glad that you don’t have to try and win with real college students. No one pays to see the the teams because of their GPA
Delbert D.
October 27th, 2010
3:21 pm
Concrete Pete – “But Tech jocks still major in “university studies”.
Here’s the breakdown for the football team for 2010:
GT 2010 Upperclassmen Majors:
Updated for 2010 on 9/30/2010
11 players – Management (one in masters program)
4 players – Civil Engineering
1 player- Biology (Punter)
1 player – Biotechnology
1 player – Aerospace Engineering (All-ACC Center)
2 players – Mechanical Engineering (Starting WR)
2 players – Industrial Engineering
1 player – Computer & Electrical Engineering (PK)
1 Player – Building Construction
1 player – History, Science and Technology (starting DB/VaTech xfer)
1 player – Economics and International Releations
1 player – Sociology
2 players – All-ACC Academic team (2 starters, A-back and DT)
Matt Winkeljohn
October 27th, 2010
3:24 pm
There is no university studies major at Tech. Iowa has one, though.
Old Bee
October 27th, 2010
3:26 pm
I am so old that I remember when boys attended Tech to get a degree rather than hang around and play a sport and then whither away.
Emerald Bowl
October 27th, 2010
3:27 pm
Iowa also has a BCS win
RichieRich86
October 27th, 2010
3:28 pm
this is great. GT players sure are smart huh? Go Dawgs!
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:29 pm
test
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:29 pm
Okay, I’ll try again, since this didn’t go through the first five times.
“Tech’s football program earned a multi-year rate of 957, which significantly exceeds the average produced by all FBS teams (941) and all Division I (both FBS and FCS) teams (939). Every member of Paul Johnson’s 2008 football team was academically eligible to play in the Chick-fil-A Bowl, and a record 29 Yellow Jacket football players earned Dean’s List honors. ”
Source: http://www2.wjbf.com/sports/2009/may/06/local_colleges_release_academic_progress_rate_stat-ar-227332/
“The NCAA has released APR scores by teams for the past six years. On Thursday, it released annual scores for that same span (2002-08) that are specific to head coaches. For example, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson’s 982 average score, which tied for the highest among football coaches in either conference, is from 4 1/2 seasons at Navy and 1 1/2 at Tech.”
Source: http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/acc-tops-sec-in-587133.html
Wow, Doug, that’s from the AJC. You wouldn’t have to work too hard to find that information.
Maybe you would just rather post a negative article, sow discord, and watch as the comments grow.
Bark Madley is teaching you well, young Dawg Roberson.
Emerald Bowl
October 27th, 2010
3:29 pm
To RK,but you have your female injunnreeers
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:30 pm
It won’t let me post articles based on Paul Johnson’s APR.
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:30 pm
Seriously, Doug?
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:31 pm
Why can’t I post other articles in defense of Johnson?
Hey, Rambleon84...
October 27th, 2010
3:31 pm
…there are no graduation success records compiled by the NCAA for Johnson as yet (he has only been here two years so he has not had ANYBODY that he brought in graduate as yet since you cannot graduate in 2 years, no matter where you go to college), so just take your lumps with what is available about GT and STFU…
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:31 pm
Pathetic attempt to bash Tech
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:32 pm
There actually are records compiled for him…unfortunately the AJC will not let me post what I have tried to post here 7 or 8 times now.
One of them even comes from the AJC.
TDone
October 27th, 2010
3:33 pm
Concrete Pete, do you work for MSNBC? You must with the disinformation you are spreading. This is the definition of University Studies: University studies is an academic major at some universities designed to give students a wide breadth of liberal arts education, rather than focusing on a specific major field of study.
Now here are the degree programs offered by Tech (See URL): http://www.gatech.edu/degrees/.
Now please University Studies in this curriculum.
You have lost whatever credibility you did not have.
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:33 pm
http://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-tech/acc-tops-sec-in-587133.html
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:34 pm
Taken directly from that article:
“The NCAA has released APR scores by teams for the past six years. On Thursday, it released annual scores for that same span (2002-08) that are specific to head coaches. For example, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson’s 982 average score, which tied for the highest among football coaches in either conference, is from 4 1/2 seasons at Navy and 1 1/2 at Tech.”
For the record, 1000 is perfect.
So, Delbert D...
October 27th, 2010
3:34 pm
…do you really think GT only has 23 upperclassmen football players? Are you telling us that GT has 62 freshmen and sophomores on scholarship?
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:35 pm
Another:
“Tech’s football program earned a multi-year rate of 957, which significantly exceeds the average produced by all FBS teams (941) and all Division I (both FBS and FCS) teams (939). Every member of Paul Johnson’s 2008 football team was academically eligible to play in the Chick-fil-A Bowl, and a record 29 Yellow Jacket football players earned Dean’s List honors.”
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:35 pm
Source: http://www2.wjbf.com/sports/2009/may/06/local_colleges_release_academic_progress_rate_stat-ar-227332/
GDBurdell
October 27th, 2010
3:35 pm
I love how the ajc is afraid to come out and say that teck is last place in the acc. ahhahahaha you guys aren’t even having a good season!!!!!!
CAN NOT WAIT for the UGA game
Rufus
October 27th, 2010
3:36 pm
WTF cares if football players graduate?
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:36 pm
That is actually probably true. Johnson has only been here three years and redshirted the majority of his guys, so few true juniors and few redshirt juniors and seniors
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:37 pm
From the previously posted AJC article:
“The NCAA has released APR scores by teams for the past six years. On Thursday, it released annual scores for that same span (2002-08) that are specific to head coaches. For example, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson’s 982 average score, which tied for the highest among football coaches in either conference, is from 4 1/2 seasons at Navy and 1 1/2 at Tech.”
That's rich, RambleOn84...
October 27th, 2010
3:37 pm
…taking credit for Johnson’s Navy teams and his 1.5 years at Tech with guys recruited by someone else – in case you failed to notice, this is NOT about individual coaches but about universities and their ability to graduate athletes…
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:38 pm
Dawg Roberson is just trying to gain comments by posting a negative article without telling the whole story.
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:38 pm
OK, so should Dennis Felton be held accountable for the practices of Jim Harrick?
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:43 pm
It is no secret that Gailey had a problem with winning and with discipline.
Truly a loser in every sense of the word…no surprise.
I am just disappointed that Doug did not note that Johnson has done a MUCH better job in the short time he’s been here.
Geez, RambleOn84...
October 27th, 2010
3:43 pm
…what have Felton and Harrick got to do with football player graduation rates – talk about being obsesses with UGA…
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:45 pm
…coming from a Dog fan on a Tech blog
Or maybe, RambleOn84...
October 27th, 2010
3:45 pm
…Gailey’s last couple of classes were more inclined to go to class and graduate than were his first couple of recruiting classes – CPJ had nothing to do with those numbers…
GDBurdell
October 27th, 2010
3:46 pm
what is wrong with you tech guys, G^D D%M, being really proud of slanting some numbers to make yourself look right?-is that all they teach you people down there
I got no dawg in this game...
October 27th, 2010
3:46 pm
…I went to Davidson, where REAL student athletes (and lousy HS football players) go to college…
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:47 pm
Or maybe global warming caused them to all go to class
Face it RambleOn84...
October 27th, 2010
3:48 pm
…you lost this argument…
RambleOn84
October 27th, 2010
3:49 pm
Actually I didn’t.