The good and the bad in Tech’s loss
Reviewing Georgia Tech’s 27-13 loss at Clemson on Saturday:
The game that was
Georgia Tech had many things go right on its way to the Orange Bowl last season. This season, things aren’t going their way with as much regularity and the result is losses. The odd thing is in each of the three losses there has been a single moment when, if one play is made, the result could have been different. On Saturday it was the failure to recover a fumble on a kickoff return. Against N.C. State and Kansas, it was allowing third-and-long conversions after Tech had just scored to take the momentum.
What we learned
1. The team needs to get mean. Paul Johnson said afterward that his team got whacked around. Brad Jefferson said the defense had trouble beating blocks (not the first time this season that has been said), and Johnson later said the offensive line needs to put its hand on the ground and blow somebody off the ball. That’s not all technique, some of that is just wanting to be meaner than the man in front of you.
2. Special teams need special attention. Tech isn’t good enough to overcome too many mistakes. It had a season’s worth of errors on special teams in the loss to Clemson, with six errors made. The punt-return unit, which has had issues throughout the season, had a penalty for roughing the kicker, and the punt coverage unit was called for a late hit. It also failed to down a punt at the 1-yard line.
3. The offense needs a game-changer. With the exception of Orwin Smith, Tech has nobody on the edge that can be consistently counted on to either catch the ball or take the option and turn upfield for a big play. Smith has become Tech’s most dependable receiver with two catches for 37 yards on Saturday in a group that had more drops. Smith also had four rushes for 54 yards. Anthony Allen was a game-changer on the edge in the rushing game last season at A-back. Because teams are focusing on taking out Joshua Nesbitt and Allen, who is now a B-back, one of the A-backs needs to step up … and the offensive line and wide receivers need to help by sealing the edge.
Injury report
There appeared to be no significant injuries.
Numbers game
6.2
Rushing yards per carry on 38 carries allowed by Georgia Tech on Saturday. The 236 yards allowed was a season high. Tech was susceptible to cut-back runs last season, and that hasn’t changed this year.
Sound bite
“We’re going to have to go back, watch the tape and get this thing worked out quick because we’ve got a couple more big games coming up.” — Allen said, referencing games at Virginia Tech and at home against Miami.
Loose ends
Nesbitt needed 44 yards to become the ACC’s most prolific rushing quarterback. He now needs 42 yards after netting just 2 yards on 15 carries against the Tigers. It was his worst rushing performance since Johnson took over as coach and an example of the offensive line’s issues. … Twice this season Tech has been held to a touchdown or less in the first half. … Tech didn’t force a turnover for the fifth game this season.
What’s next
Georgia Tech gets more than a week off to regroup before heading to Blacksburg to take on Virginia Tech. Tech’s chances of making it back to the ACC championship game are very slim, but they include needing a win over the Hokies.
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118 comments Add your comment
TexasJacket
October 25th, 2010
3:43 am
There’s a lot of work to do if there are any hopes at all of salvaging this season.
I do believe I’m first.
Rockdale Jacket
October 25th, 2010
4:11 am
Doug: I wonder if a net of 2 yards on 15 carries (0.1 yard per carry)
does not set a GT record or maybe an NCAA record low for a QB
running an option offense? Maybe no such record kept to prove or disprove
this statement. Anyway, besides the offensive line being the culprit, why did
the play callers not try something else when they saw Nesbitt was being stopped? Just curious.
brent cunningham
October 25th, 2010
4:19 am
Who could win a tight game in the entire country with as many stupid mistakes early from special teams? We had a nice stop to give us the mo from the start,but alas, the mo was shot in the foot.The first 10 minutes were a total special team nightmare. The entire offence and defence were given a steep steep mountain they were not qualified to climb.
Born2Buzz
October 25th, 2010
5:04 am
When we lose a game we lose it in all aspects. The defense makes a stop and the special teams group makes a stupid mistake and gives it back. The offense wakes up and scores to get it close and the defense lets the other team run it right up their gut for an easy score.
I’m still wondering what Al Groh is doing as DC. We keep starting a NT that is consistently pushed out of the way by a single player. No wonder the other team can simply run it right up our gut.
Got a long week to correct things or else we will be pounded by VT.
Alabama Jack
October 25th, 2010
6:42 am
The coaching is terrible! Can’t blame it all on the players!
SCGTFan
October 25th, 2010
6:54 am
Let’s all stay behind this team. Clemson’s D Line is very good and credit is due to them. Special teams errors & no room for Joshua to operate lost the game. We all know there is a drop-off from last year, but there are 3 big games left + Duke. This team is capable of putting it together and winning any of these games. Fan base plays a role in successful programs. If you enjoyed the success last year, you need to support the team now and let’s see how they do…..
Alabama Jack
October 25th, 2010
7:13 am
To the dawg using my name – bite one.
Dan
October 25th, 2010
7:14 am
There is nothing bad about Tech losing. Tech losing is good for America.
As previously written...
October 25th, 2010
7:17 am
… so much for being 8-0 when the Va Tech and Miami games come around…
Paul's...
October 25th, 2010
7:18 am
…johnson surely got smaller after losing to a team coached by a guy name ‘Dabo’…
Hey...
October 25th, 2010
7:19 am
…who was the moron last week that couldn’t wait for Joshua to break Dantzler’s record on his home field…
Hey, brent cunningham...
October 25th, 2010
7:21 am
…try taking some remedial courses next time you are at Tech, maybe you will learn how to spell ‘offenSe’ and ‘defenSe’…
GTpak
October 25th, 2010
7:30 am
Face it we got whipped on all sides. The Groan defense appears to be no better than before. It seems to only have success against lesser opponents.
Most under utilized player on the field is Orwin Smith.
S. Hill’s position of wide receiver needs to be changed to “tall guy in uniform”, because in my book a receiver has to actually receive. Although
I guess that we didn’t expect Clemson to plan to stop Nesbitt.
No sacks on Pakrer? Again, weak d line, and weak o line. Sorry guys, but you need to be in the weight room instead of at the V.
For having the deepest team in his tenure, it appears they may be deep, just not very good.
Foothills
October 25th, 2010
7:37 am
The problem is not with the coaching-it’s the level of talent they’re trying to coach.
Frustrated Fan
October 25th, 2010
7:43 am
I’m frustrated and I’m sure CPJ is frustrated. Here is the difference between Last year and this year. The Offensive line needs to take controll of the game. Something it has not done. We need a big play guy. Stephen Hill is not it and won’t be it. I’m sorry but he can’t catch. Tall yes, Fast yes, Can’t catch. Surly someone on Tech’s team can catch the ball. Its not the QB’s falt the puts the ball where I see other teams make plays. Last year Bay Bay made the plays when it came crunch time. This year we don’t have that guy and that is the difference between last year and this year.
After saying all that I’m not giving up on the team. I still believe in our coach, I believe in our players and I believe in our school. GA TECH until the end win or loose!
ThatStingHurts
October 25th, 2010
7:48 am
Let Steven Hill watch from the pine for a couple of games. Move Orwin Smith to receiver to show him how it should be done. Then, throw SHORT passes. Forget the 30 + attempts. Stop with the desperation heaves to Hill. If a team stops our run game, and can stop a short passing game, then they out-thunk us. But we haven’t tried all the options yet.
ss
October 25th, 2010
7:48 am
It has been a re occuring theme the entire season. The O-line has not been able to block anyone. Yes, the players are playing with no itenesity.
We will see what happens against the turkeys in early November.
ss
October 25th, 2010
7:49 am
Game changing play @ Clemson? The roughing the kicker flag changed the whole game when they scored and did not look back.
old u
October 25th, 2010
8:12 am
The great al groh will shut down Virginia Tech just like he did at UVA (1-8). LMAO
Joe Schmoe
October 25th, 2010
8:21 am
Will someone please explain why Logan Walls gets any snaps at NG? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY NOT LEAVE TJ IN?
Paul in RDU
October 25th, 2010
8:26 am
After 8 games you pretty much know what a team can and cannot do. The 2010 GT team is far behind the 2009 team in many areas – OL, making long catches, turnover differential, etc. – and is highly unlikely to win out.
jacket fan in wisconsin
October 25th, 2010
8:27 am
brent cunningham , is that really you ??? the one from eatonton, ga. ? Man, I loved watching you run back in the late 60’s early 70’s ! Have I got the years right ??
Captain Obvious
October 25th, 2010
8:27 am
For those of you who tell me “that it is not the coaching, but the limited talent they have to coach.” Who do you think is responsible for the limited talent? Not me and not you. The coach is responsible. It appears that the cupboard was full when CPJ took over. The question then becomes..what does the cupboard look like now?
Rt in NC
October 25th, 2010
8:31 am
Hey, ThatStingHurts
You and I CAN”T be the only people seeing this. The reason Nesbit’s passer rating is so low is 1) receivers keep dropping easy catches, 2) He keeps throwing hail Mary’s. CPJ, THROW FOR AROUND 10 YARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cecil34
October 25th, 2010
8:34 am
It may be time to start playing another QB so GT can have somebody ready next year who has taken some gameday snaps…
I don’t think that it would really matter much at this point, because even if somebody could actually catch a pass, Nesbitt seems to have regressed in his already suspect passing ability.
This offense must be run to perfection for it to work, and that has not happened all year. Add to the fact that the passing game is non-existant, and it is downhill from here.
I won’t even get into the defensive issues but I would not blame it on Groh – he has very little quality to work with.
This program under CPJ has stalled this year, and if there is not marked imporvement in the next year or two, it may be time (God forbid again) to make a change.
Eric
October 25th, 2010
8:35 am
Where r u gtjoey? You said clemson would lose. You mocked Dabo. Your coach was outcoached and looked silly out there.
I knew you would disappear like the tool you are.
STGT
October 25th, 2010
8:38 am
Come on. This team is bad. They will lose 3 of the next 4, beating Dook.
6-6 and a trip to shreveport where you mocked the uga for going last year.
Uga 38
gt 17
billbuzz
October 25th, 2010
8:48 am
I was a season ticket holder for 35 seasons, and it looks to me like we are getting manhandled on both lines! Until our lines start blocking people, and getting pressure on the other quarterback, we will struggle to win games. Stephen Hill does not catch the ball well, and Joshua had a BAD game against Clemson with his reads. It is a game of fundamentals that we are not doing well–blocking and making the tackle on their ballcarriers! Stupid mistakes, penalties, etc., are killing us! The coaches can only do so much. The players on the field have got to want it badly enough to concentrate, and play smart football! I don’t see the fire in their belly that seems to show that they want to win more than the other guys like I saw last year!
Gatorman
October 25th, 2010
8:49 am
The good is Tech is not as good as last year, the bad is no one knows how much worse.
TDone
October 25th, 2010
8:49 am
The two yards rushing by Nesbitt are a misnomer. Remember, sacks count against the running game. So that tasks away yardage.
I do believe for the first time under Coach Johnson, we hava make or break game. He has always stated that good teams don’t lose two games in a row. We will find out what Tech is made of next Thursday in Blacksburg.
ramblin man
October 25th, 2010
8:52 am
throw more short passes to the a backs and slant routes…that is what has been working not the 30 yard bombs!
Max Sizemore
October 25th, 2010
8:52 am
1. Hey, Born2Buzz, you say the NT is being pushed around. Maybe he’s the best Groh has. 2. Doug, you say the offense needs a “game-changer.” Again, you simply fail to understand Johnson’s offense. It is a SYSTEM. If the defense does this, Tech can do that. You can’t say, OK, we’re giving the ball to the B-back or pitching it to the A-back so he can make a play. Somebody else wrote that Tech needs to throw short passes. The offense isn’t designed that way.
Whatever
October 25th, 2010
8:54 am
I got the bad for you………Stephen Hill. That moron couldn’t catch a cold. I mean I realize this is a bit of a down year, especially with the hangover of losing some unbeleivable talent to the NFL, but there is no excuse for losing like that. Pathetic!!!!
sleeze
October 25th, 2010
8:57 am
Clemson used a staggered defnesive line formation that I’d never seen before – both D-Ends played upright and off the line. It seems apparent that the good teams are starting to understand how to play against CPJ’s offense. And if you can’t pass out if it, it’s gonna get worse.
SCJacket
October 25th, 2010
8:59 am
Move Anthony back to A back to play with Orwin. Let Lucas play the B. Forget about the midgets. Let David and Tevin play some qb. Mix it up. We will not just get better and win. The O line and D line will not be bettter until next year. Need to use the talented skill players to effect change. Al G you better send some backers and DB’s on some stunts son and mix it up or UGA will run it on every play all day long like last year. If we stand still nothing will change. Change will only be effected by using our skill players more creatively.
Nerds
October 25th, 2010
8:59 am
Doug Roberson, you are a perfect fit to cover the Nerds. You look like one, therefore you are. Paul Johnson won with Chan’s talent, nobody wants to play in that “system.” Good hire!
superDawg
October 25th, 2010
9:01 am
ss the BullDawgs are going to put the final nail in the gt coffin.Good luck with Duke.
delusion
October 25th, 2010
9:08 am
PJ is getting a taste of humble pie. This arrogant SOB thought that he was such a genuis he could plug anybody into his “GREAT” scheme and he would win. Now we all realize just how terrible a recruiter he really is and if things don’t change he is going to end up doing worse than Gailey. Next year I could easily see this team below .500 and even chan didn’t have a season that bad. What happened too the mantra- wait until PJ gets his recruits to the flats? That now looks like a scary thought instead of a good one.
T3
October 25th, 2010
9:12 am
Agree with CPJ’s spost-game assessment.
Clemson has “veterans” on the D-Line. By comparison, GT has “rookies.”
GT O-Line simply got manhandled at LOS.
UP UNITL NOW: Stephen Hill has shown he is not capable of catching ANYTHING more than 5 yards past the LOS.
GT secondary was out of position a lot on Saturday.
GT D-Line got pushed around pretty good too.
HOWEVER……….VT’s D is not nearly as good as Clemson.
Always a Jacket
October 25th, 2010
9:13 am
Lets be realistic, losing all the talent to the NFL and others is fact of life. No coach will admit to a rebuilding year. But, CPJ is building a program and this was always going to be a tough year. Tech had a great season last year and can still recover this year for a good season if the younger players stop making mistakes. It is realistic to believeTech will win its remaining home games and lose the remaining road games.
Clemson is a good team and Tech was in it despite all the mistakes and on the road. Assuming we beat Duke & maybe UM, we are going bowling and CPJ should finally get a bowl win.
DawginLex
October 25th, 2010
9:20 am
What the crap happened? I didn’t get to watch it because I was headed to the UGA game.
Looks like y’all are figuring out a harsh reality about trying to replace NFL caliber players with good college players like we did last year with Stafford/Moreno vs Cox/Ealey.
Defense gave up a ton of rushing yards? New scheme. Maybe it is the jimmys and joes instead of the x’s and o’s.
We gave up 31 to UK and head to Florida after Urban has had an extra week to prepare. GT gets to go play VT in 2 weeks.
Ain’t college football fun?
Tech Man
October 25th, 2010
9:21 am
Paul Johnson has won…forever…everywhere. He wins big consistently and will do so at Georgia Tech. At the end of this year, he will be averaging 9+ wins per year. A very good start by any measure. He is just getting started.
PJ
October 25th, 2010
9:22 am
We need more hotdogs!
Dunwoody Jacket
October 25th, 2010
9:24 am
I agree with Always a Jacket. CPJ is the right man for Georgia Tech. Duke is the only given left on the schedule, but I think the Jackets are capable of winning three of the last four. It all depends on which Tech team shows up for each game, or sometimes it seems like a different team shows up each quarter.
theGTdream
October 25th, 2010
9:25 am
it’s funny to see everyone become so negative, or even jump off the bandwagon when Tech can still win the ACC this year. All they have to do is beat Virginia Tech, Miami, and Duke, and hope Virginia Tech loses to either North Carolina or Miami. Not that much of a stretch. This team’s just inconsistant. Nesbitt is still a great QB in our offense, and our defense just needs to play with more confidence and keep blitzing.
Take what UGA has done the past few weeks as a model for what we need to do. I’m a GT fan, but UGA has turned around a season that looked awful (ask any UGA fan), and is now the hottest team in the SEC East. Believe it or not, both UGA and GT are in the same position now, with tough games ahead and still in contention to win their respective divisions. UGA has their ship sailing in the right direction it seems, while Tech needs to right the ship by the time they play VT in Blacksburg next Thursday.
Slide Rule
October 25th, 2010
9:37 am
Could some of you genius engineers please tell me how a Heisman candidate QB, with an ACC record on the line, who runs the freakin option for God’s sake, manages to come up with 2 net rushing yards? Are we hearing this right? As big as “joshua” is all he had to do was fall forward at the line the ENTIRE game and he would’ve gained more than 2 freakin yards!
So Yesterday
October 25th, 2010
9:47 am
This is not going to get better. Did you see our defensive back backing up to the endzone instead of attacking the Clemson reciever that caught the ball. It was third down and an aggressive play would have stopped the first down much less the touchdown. We have very poor efforts by some of our players, and the offense is a disaster. Not sure why some of these players are not giving the effort, but something is definitely missing from this team. No chemistry, no real leadership and it seems no guts. You are not going to beat anyone this day and time scoring 13 points. Listen we lost to Kansas, the worst team in division one football. Maybe they can beat Duke, but the other games will be beat downs if they do not change things right away, and after 8 games it is hard to imagine the change we need. Just a piss poor year, but CPJ will have em back next year. Maybe some of the younger guys will step up and be leaders as this team has none that is eveident at this time.
BigTimeTechFan
October 25th, 2010
9:49 am
Good game, Tech got beat everywhere, simply got beat by the better team.
Heck, Clemson played Auburn (#1) better then anyone in the SEC has so I’ll take this loss. CPJ has this team pegged, they are real close to being a real good team but it like they just never step up. They kill drives by a bad play almost every time, it does not look like team have them stopped but a bad pitch or something will put them in a hole.
Defense, inside linebackers were lowering their heads trying to take on 300 pound guards, could not even see what was going on with their head in the chest of the OL.
Nice game by Clemson, solid play everywhere, QB was off and they still won.
Reggie Balless
October 25th, 2010
9:49 am
How’s that Nesbitt for Heisman campaign going so far?
Yellow Jacket Joe
October 25th, 2010
9:51 am
Groh must go – the sooner the better!!!
GT Sambo
October 25th, 2010
9:52 am
Totally agree that CPJ is the right coach for us. Everybody talks about Chan’s recruits. Chan’s recruiting SUCKED!! All of Chan’s good players left already! We are now stuck with the dregs of what Chan recruited. Thank God that we have a several CPJ recruits (O. Smith, TJ Barnes, I. Cross, J. Burnett, I. Johnson, R. Sweeting, O. Uzzi) that are playing well, otherwise we would be REALLY bad.
ArkyTech
October 25th, 2010
9:56 am
Put up or shut up time in Blacksburg. We were in a very similar situation in 2007 and fell completely on our faces. Let’s see if a new coach yields different results. Division title still very much within reach.
rxdawg79
October 25th, 2010
9:57 am
@theGRdream: we’re in total agreement. I kept thinking as I read the blog’s comments that they were just like UGA blogs a month ago, only with player’s/coaches’ names being different. UGA is finally beating the teams they’re supposed to beat, but the next few weeks will tell us if it’s anything more. GT has discovered just how much they miss the players who left for the NFL, as did UGA last year. (UGA’s funk lasted longer than I anticipated, but GT fans can hope that GT’s will not.)
Everyone thought it impossible for UGA to win the SECe, but suddenly that scenario just might play out. GT’s situation is amazingly similar–it can still happen. I wouldn’t bet on either team to do it, though.
I also agree with the poster who suggested that it’s time to play some other folks for a bit. I still curse silently when I think of the playing time Aaron Murray could have had last year had the staff not stubbornly stuck with Joe Cox all game every game. When Nesbitt’s gone will GT have anyone @QB who’s actually played in a live game?
A month from now we might have two 5-6 teams in a desperate fight to avoid a losing season. A month ago that didn’t seem possible (we all thought that only 1 team would be in that position). Should be an interesting home-stretch.
Slide Rule
October 25th, 2010
9:58 am
Seriously folks, I’ve watched Nesbitt play. He’s a heckuva runner and a tough sob. I’ve seen him make people miss, run over people, and carry people with him. If he had no o-line in front of him he should get more than 2 yards….dontcha think?
GT fan in MS
October 25th, 2010
9:59 am
Bench S. Hill! Get hit in the face with the ball in the endzone and drop it? How many times this season has Hill dropped key passes?
Forever Orange
October 25th, 2010
10:05 am
Told ya. Told ya we would win. Told ya all the posers would disappear today. I was right on both counts. I have no love lost for Va Tech but you will get a real beat down in two weeks.
And tech signed who?
October 25th, 2010
10:07 am
PJ has had 3 recruiting classes, his inability to recruit quality players is rearing its very ugly head. if PJ is such a great coach why hasn’t he coached up Gaileys dregs or better yet recruited the talent to replace them?
GT Jake
October 25th, 2010
10:14 am
CPJ can coach, but can he recruit?
He didn’t have to at Navy.
If he doesn’t stop signing classes of duds that should be playing DivII or for Duke, get used to what you saw Sat.
GT Jake
October 25th, 2010
10:17 am
And yes… CPJ had more talent at Navy, than he does now!
BUUUHHUUHHHU
October 25th, 2010
10:19 am
WWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA
I guess the tough talker and captain metamucil aren’t working out
GT87
October 25th, 2010
10:23 am
I’m still behind CPJ 100%. Now is not the time to turn on our coach like some other in-state school. Go Jackets!
juvenal
October 25th, 2010
10:24 am
Doug, congatulations-only stupid people don’t realize being a nerd is a compliment….& that CPJ’s 1st class was inherited,with redshirting it takes 5 years to assess a class, it’s done retrospectively…
Stephen Hill is a Joke
October 25th, 2010
10:26 am
I’m behing CPJ 100%, but he seriously needs to bench Stephen Hill. That kid is quite possibly the worst wide-out in the NCAA.
Wreckmaniac
October 25th, 2010
10:27 am
Problems and Possibilities:
1. The offensive line never allowed Nesbitt to move after the snap. He had no holes to run through.
2. Tarrant needs to get more touches. Switch him to offense
3. Linebackers were atrocious. Never got their hands on Ellington or Harper.
It is time to review his era
October 25th, 2010
10:29 am
CPJ has been the GT coach for 2.5 years. His first year was fair and last year was also fair. Now, winningttat ACC thing, in 2009, means nothing because look at the 2010 early season humiliations that the ACC received by playing out of conference. That embarrassing record of defeat for the entire ACC speaks for itself.
With Va Tech and Miami and UGA on the horizon …………..GT is looking at 3 more losses. These three schools ( UGA is simply horrible ) will out muscle and shove GT all around the lot. They also have in common ……….1.) better athletes and 2.) Speed. Joshua Nesbitt has become a national laughing stock too.
CPJ told us that Al Groh, with “all of his 1960s era NFL contacts would boost our D play”. Now, that too has to be weighed.
GT over 43 years sees a new football coach every 3.5 years. Tick, tock, tick tock. IS CPJ soon to be the next one? Ga Southern might take him back or Elon College or maybe even West Georgia University or Montezuma High School.
The old GT crowd are not happy. They miss the SEC and are humiliated playing in the ACC.
Get ready for the Boise Blue Carpet Bowl in snowy, cold, sleeting Idaho in front of 2,300 local Boy Scouts. AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Stephen Hill is a Joke
October 25th, 2010
10:30 am
Wreckmaniac
I have never seen linebackers so lost before. I mean seriously, how many times can a RB cut-back on you and gash you for 30+yards before you start staying at home on the weak side
SRF
October 25th, 2010
10:33 am
Nesbitt is a nice enough kid and an OK running back – but unless he learns to pass, this offense will stay boxed in and keep losing. The smart coaches have figured out the gimmick – you have to have a threat of a pass to keep defense off-balance. Teams can play 11 men on the line to stop the run because the QB cannot pass and the receivers cannot catch.
Wreckmaniac
October 25th, 2010
10:34 am
Who cares who Chan recruited ? There are a lot of dumb fans on these blogs. Haven’t we all seen for years and years what 5 star recruits have done for UGA ? Nothing. We expect coaches to “figure it out” when we fans can’t figure out what is staring us in the face. Aren’t we as fans responsible for figuring out some things ourselves ? Recruiting does not cause winning.
Forever Orange response..
October 25th, 2010
10:37 am
Yep, Clemson played a good game even without Parker. I’ll give you that. I’ll take this loss to our 2 wins last year any day though. Good luck to both teams. When does Clemson play FSU?
Bob
October 25th, 2010
10:41 am
Wake up people!The problem is our recruiting!We are recruiting southern conference players.We get mauled by decent teams because we are aweful in the trenches!Wake up and accept the truth!PJ has to make changes hiring recruiting coaches.He recruits like he is at Ga Southern.The alumni need to get after PJ on his glaring weakness of recruiting good players especially front seven on D.
fan of shorter passes
October 25th, 2010
10:42 am
Would love to start the game again without that roughing call.
Amazing what the loss of one receiver to the pros can do to an option team.
Been a Tech fan long time…named my son after “Brent” Cunningham.
If Tech beats VT, I’ll become a Tarheel fan for a short while.
Here is an idea:
October 25th, 2010
10:42 am
For GT they need to make some neat lil changes. Here is my plan:
Go with Aaron Murray at QB. He can run and throw the ball. Perfect for the triple bone offense. He is also very intelligent ………..something that um, ah, the existing GT Qb lacks.
Put Waushaun Ealey at A back. He is a ball player and has grown up in the very manly SEC. In an ACC contest he might score 10 TDs.
Put UGA’s Kenarius Gates at right tackle. He is only a true frosh at 6′8″ and 330 lbs but he is a man already in the very manly SEC. He also played HS ball near where Nesbitt played. A natural this move would be. They could be pals.
At D end ……….go with UGA’s Justin Houston. Wow! Why not? He is a man and yes, grew up in the SEC. He will immediately put the fear of GOD in any ACC school, or ……….SEC for that matter.
At corner back go with UGA’s Cummings Sanders ………all 6′3′ and 215 lbs with speed. He is a developing corner for sure. Fill out GT’s d backfield with # 09 Alec Ogletree at safety. He too is 6′3″ and weighs a neat 220.
Now …………….throw in Todd Granthom as D co ordinator and get rid of AL Groh and GT might have a shot. Bobo can replace CPJ and that will really BOOST GT’s chances of winning.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Alan
October 25th, 2010
10:42 am
Agree 100% with Bob.PJ has to be called out on his aweful recruiting staff.
Gt4ever
October 25th, 2010
10:43 am
No Defense, and unbelievably, NO offense….. Wow, who would have thunk it….. This coach hasn’t recruited….. I am a GT alum and fan for life, but it looks like it’s going to get ugly….
juvenal
October 25th, 2010
10:44 am
do the math-4/16 OL & 3/12 DL upper class(including#96)-too fwe linemen recruited when the 5 scholarships were lost-this dip was predictable-Texas, UF, UT are in same boat…..
juvenal
October 25th, 2010
10:45 am
few
404
October 25th, 2010
10:46 am
Rumor has it that the Orange Bowll committee has already told
John Swafford that they “expect” to see FSU play in the Orange Bowl,
as the ACC Champion.
Call your bookie now.
Hugh
October 25th, 2010
10:46 am
The recruiting at Tech is a joke and everyone knows it.No use to spin it anymore.PJ and staff are aweful recruiters.Hey PJ you are not at Ga SOUTHERN SO QUIT RECRUITING LIKE IT!!!!!!!! I AM INFURIATED AT THIS NON RECRUITING STAFF!!!!PJ WILL SOON HAVE HIS JOB ON THE LINE BECAUSE OF HIS RECRUITING
Jack G.
October 25th, 2010
10:48 am
This team is close—-well let me tell you folks—-Close only counts in horseshoes and Hand Grenades.
It is well documented that I dont like CPJ’s system so I wont get into that. All I have been hearing is wait until he gets his players. Just look at it—these are his players and it dosent make any difference. The reason they are not doing well, is other teams are learning how to defense his system. Defense—-CPJ teams have never had a defense. As for Groh—he is playing a 3 4 defense and should be coaching a 4 3. He just dosent get it.
so many dogs on this blog
October 25th, 2010
10:51 am
trying to sabotage
John
October 25th, 2010
10:52 am
Why hasnt our AD confronted PJ about his aweful recruiting?He is in BIG trouble.This team has no talent.The staff has to be fired.They are pitiful!!!This is unacceptable and PJ needs to hire a recruiting staff or go back to a mickey mouse team where he can run his outdated offense.Maybe its time to hire a new head coach.People who spin this are idiots.PJ is in big trouble!
Jack always says the same thing
October 25th, 2010
10:53 am
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Hugh
October 25th, 2010
10:54 am
No we are not dog fans.We are Jacket fans who are sick of our pitiful recruiting staff!!!!
@John
October 25th, 2010
10:55 am
Define “big trouble”.
Bob
October 25th, 2010
10:56 am
We have to make several changes on our staff at seasons end.It is going to get ugly.We all know recruiting is our problem and we have to focus on hiring recruiting coaches.If PJ does not like it he can go to Western Carolinab and take his offense with him!
GT Sambo
October 25th, 2010
10:59 am
I can definitely tell who is a UGA troll on this board. “And tech signed who?” has zero understanding of recruiting. Why are we getting pushed around on the OL and DL lines? Because we have guys who were not recruited for those systems playing those positions. “It is time to review his era” is clearly a UGA troll, given the way he disparages the ACC. Yes, the ACC is bad, but have you looked at the SEC East? CPJ is a much better coach than Chan Gailey or Mark Richt could ever hope to be. GT is GT, we are never going to be Alabama, Texas, or USC, but we have a coach who can hopefully help us to overachieve every year like we did the last two years.
GT Sambo
October 25th, 2010
11:00 am
Bob,
You know NOTHING about recruiting! We have recruited very well the last two years and we are on pace to have another solid recruiting class for 2011. If you are expecting us to recruit as well as UGA, you are going to be disappointed.
CarolinaJacket
October 25th, 2010
11:01 am
The “star system” for rating recruits can surely be misleading, Look at O. Smith, a two star recruit who now is Tech’s top, or nearly top, offensive player. The linebackers have really been a disappointment. And how is Chris Jackson coming along. He should be able to catch the ball either as a wr or aback. Watch of D. Smith to be a really good qb next year.
John
October 25th, 2010
11:02 am
BIG TROUBLE means we are going to get physically mauled against Va Tech,Miami,and UGA!!!BIG TROUBLE MEANS WE HAVE NO TALENT!!!!BIG TROUBLE MEANS WE HAVE NO RECRUITING COACHES!!!!!!BIG TROUBLE MEANS PJ’s OFFENSE HAS BEEN FIGURED OUT.NOW WE HAVE NO TALENT!!!!NO RECRUITING COACHES!!!!AND AN OFFENSE THAT EVERYONE HAS FIGURED OUT!!!!!!WE WERE LUCK TO HAVE BEATEN WAKE!!!!!!!WAKE UP IDIOT!!!!!!WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE!!!!MAYBE ONE MORE WIN!!!!!!!!
GT Sambo
October 25th, 2010
11:12 am
CarolinaJacket, I assume you mean David Sims.
GT Sambo
October 25th, 2010
11:16 am
John, I assume that you mean an offense that was figured out that gained over 300 yards against Clemson. They didn’t “FIGURE OUT” our offense, S.Hill dropped a touchdown pass in the endzone, we had several bad pitches, and Nesbitt inexplicably handed the ball off to Anthony Allen three straight times inside the 10 and was stopped for almost no gain three straight times!
GT Jake
October 25th, 2010
11:29 am
GT Sambo: “We have recruited very well the last two years and we are on pace to have another solid recruiting class for 2011.”
The classes rank out of the top 50, you Homer!
Stop kidding yourself.
And now you’re going to tell us rankings don’t matter.
Riiiiiiggggghhhhht…..
Too Easy
October 25th, 2010
11:34 am
According to sambo, gtu actually beat Clemson.
Gt4ever
October 25th, 2010
11:47 am
As for all you people that don’t believe that we can recruit with the UGA’s of this world…. I just don’t understand why anybody would say that we can’t compete with anybody. First of all, we have the same latitutude of admitting the same players that UGA, ALA, or UF… There is NO excuse for subpar recruiting, No academic reasons, NONE! So for all you people that want to throw the academic reason, forget it…..
GT Jake
October 25th, 2010
11:59 am
GT4ever:
While I totally disagree with GT Sambo I would argue that it’s unreasonable to think we can recruit with schools that can hide thier players in majors and classes that take the equivalent IQ of a 4 year old to pass.
I’m just saying, there’s no reason we should sign players whose only other offers are Wake Forest and The Citadel.
GT Sambo
October 25th, 2010
12:27 pm
GT Jake,
You are wrong!
Recruiting rankings per scout.com, 2009 (first full cycle for CPJ) – 32, 2010 – 41, 2011 – 39. Personally, I consider that pretty good for a relatively new coaching staff. Much better than most of Chan’s rankings from 2001 to 2008.
Gt4ever
October 25th, 2010
1:40 pm
Curriculum has changed since I was in school. I’m not here to argue the hypocrisy of the NCAA… or the hypocrisy of schools having certain majors that would allow the football players to be succesful. I have been there, there are football players at GT that would not be there if it not for football. I don’t care, it’s silly to think that we(GT) are simply recruiting student athletes. That’s just not the case…. Bobby Ross recruited, George Oleary recruited, and a good coach will find a way to get the best athletes into school! Period!
Go Jackets 88
October 25th, 2010
1:41 pm
This years recruiting class should be top 30 if we get 20 or more recruits. Jabari will end up being a four star LB on all sites. Caldwell and Vad are four star players. We might get another one. Probably more three stars on the way. I believe this years class is going to the be the best of PJ’s classes.
Hokie Revenge
October 25th, 2010
2:53 pm
We are waiting in Blacksburg to exact our revenge. Bring on your archaic offense. We will be ready and we are going to enjoy it.
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OldGTfan
October 25th, 2010
3:29 pm
Bobby Dodd, Bobby Dodd, where fore art thou Bobby… help!!!
hokie sean
October 25th, 2010
3:33 pm
jackets need a lot of help. thier quarterback is simply a running back. nesbitts passing numbers all season thus far equal a good quarterbacks numbers in one game! yes he runs but as clemson shows if shut that down, GT has nothing! tyrod taylor can run and pass… now thats a quarterback! good luck in two weeks GT… you will need it if you are even going to make it a game in blacksburg! we may have lost to jmu but its not like your kansas loss wasnt embarrassing!
Gt4ever
October 25th, 2010
3:34 pm
Hokie revenge,
You don’t mind if we come up and play the game………..? Sounds like you already have this one in the “W” column….. Hmmmmmmm, we are not very good, but hey, crazier things have happened. The best team doesn’t win all the time…. We will see…
delusion
October 25th, 2010
4:08 pm
GT Sambo, PJ better than Richt? Really? Richt has had a tough go the last couple seasons but he is 7-2 in bowl games and 2 of those are BCS bowl wins. Richt has had 10 wins or more in six different seasons in the best conference in America and two SEC titles. Richt’s best season record wise was 13-1.
In comparison PJ has only coached in a BCS conference for two full seasons. He is 0-2 in bowl games( and beaten handily in both) and has had one season of ten or better wins in one of the weakest conferences in amercia. His best record is 11-3. So please explain how PJ is a better coach than Richt because the numbers and experience( in a BCS conference) certainly don’t make a good case for you’re coach.
This bowl season will tell the tale on both
October 25th, 2010
4:17 pm
Yes, GT Sambo, I am a retired UGA grad and loving the reading on y’all’s site.
This upcoming bowl season ( the lower level bowls ) will prove where both conferences are with their fan support and TV market value. It is all about money, yes indeed.
Take a 7-5 UGa and they will likely wind up in the Music City. Take a 7-5 NC State or Va Tech and they may not even get a bowl. Take a 6-6 or even 7-5 GT ………… they will play way, way, way out in Seattle in the Coffee Grinder Bowl’s …….. first year. They are historically the KING of low, low, low level bowls for sure. Look at the GT 50 year record withONLY two Orange trips and that is it. I will indulge you and count that lowly Citrus in 1990, even though America saw the night that Colorado stomped UGA, that THEY were THE 1990 NCs.
Take a 9-3 SC or even at 8-5 and they will end up in the Outback and a 8-5 Miami would be in the Weedeater. It is about NATIONAL TV market value and brand recognition and beyond the old U and the very old FSU, there are simply not any worthy 8-5 type of ACC teams. The SEC 8-5 teams DO HAVE low level bowl worthiness and this bowl season will bare this fact out.
GT is playing for a 6-6 year for sure. Va Tech ( UGA spotted them 24 points in the Chic Fil A Bowl four years ago and then blew them out ) and Miami are no good …………BUT they will handle the triple wish bone, double back option on the keeper system of CPJ. He is a joke.
When y’all come to Athens, as bad as UGA is ( we are growing as a young team ) UGa will wipe out GT for the 9th time over 10 years and for the 12th time over 16 and the 30th time over like 38 years.
CPJ is a small boy ball coach. That he is and now …………….now ………….you all know it. I have GT pals and they think that CPJ is a clown.
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHA
PS get AL Groh to wave his 1973 NFL ring around …………that will really impress the GT recruits. AHAHAHA
OldGTfan
October 25th, 2010
4:19 pm
Hey hokey sean, hokey seems about right. You know young fella most of us tech fans, both young and old have one great thing going for us. We might not be able to pass like your tie rod, that name sounds kinda like a part of an old car, but we can calculate the coefficient of drag on the ball and you don’t even know what that is. My advice, don’t let your anticipatory juices overload your prolix mouth.
delusion
October 25th, 2010
4:33 pm
Gt4ever, thank you for being honest about the recruiting. I’m a UGA fan who has a lot of close family members who are TECH fans so I try to be respectful when comparing the two schools. Tech is certainly a special place for academics ( my uncle was a brilliant man and head of one of the research dept for over 40 years and a die hard football fan) but they can certainly recruit because they offer a business management degree. I know this because I was very good friends with a couple of the players on the 1990 national championship team and they all were in the management program. Those guys were not above average in academics coming out of high school either. Like you said Bobby Ross did really well recruiting at Tech and Gailey also brought some good players in so it can be done. Maybe Tech can’t quite recruit at an SEC level but with the state of Georgia one of the best recruiting hotbeds in America there is no excuse not to do pretty well. The whole academic excuse just doesn’t hold true.
old u
October 25th, 2010
4:34 pm
Hokie revenge,
you will be crushed. al the great groh will 3-4 those weenie rb’s you have to death…just like he did in charlottesville year after year…LOL
OldGTfan
October 25th, 2010
5:57 pm
old u, the u must stand for ugly, the only response that I can come up with to that really brilliant post of your’s is, “HUH ?”
and tech signed who?
October 25th, 2010
7:17 pm
GT Sambo blinded by the PJ kool aid. PJ offers and is rejected by most the higher rated players.
Tony
October 25th, 2010
9:31 pm
Win ,Lose or Draw I love the Yellow Jackets I know the season looks bad compared to last year but l still wear my colors in support . l ask the team do one thing this year PLEASE I BEG YOU PLEASE DO WHATCHA GOTTA DO TO BEAT THEM DAWGS!!!
Tony
October 25th, 2010
9:35 pm
when l turn on the NFL on Sunday l hear more about Calvin Johnson with the Lions who was that kid that played for Georgia that is the QB with the Lions???
macrotech
October 26th, 2010
12:54 am
“Here is an idea:”, ummmmm? NO! You mentioned players that had to win a game to go .500…we’re good, thanks for the suggestion!
While, I confess a level of frustration with this team; I’m confident in CPJs’ ability to get things on track. As mentioned, we’re a play or two from winning some of these games. I’d love to see us play Kansas again! NCST and Clemson are good teams and they came out with grudges…they beat us like drums! I’ll remain patient…Rome wasn’t built in a day. I believe in the process! GO TECH!!!
hokie sean
October 26th, 2010
8:40 am
OldGTFan… thats great that you can calculate the drag on the ball but if you cant get it into the endzone does it even matter? well nesbitt can work on that while he sits on the bench because as clemson showed if you just stop the one offensive move (the run) that gt has then the game is basically over. GT is a one dimensional team. run, run, run if it doesnt work try passing… oooh thats right nesbitt cant pass to save his life… but yet he is still a quarterback! by the way what kind of drag was on the ball when your “running back” nesbitt carried for only 2 yards last week? was it attached to an anchor or something? damn what a “drag”…. did we even know what drag was when you were in school? just wondering? i have been reading the blog and you havent posted anything worthwhile… seems like you are an angry old man who is just here to argue but has nothing to say? didnt know the senior center had computers?
Nieche
October 26th, 2010
9:00 am
I am tired of Tech beating themselves. This past week our defense held for a great stop and forced a punt on Clemson’s first drive, only to have a roughing the kicker auto first down penalty. The next play, a LONG TD run. That should have been good field position for Tech’s first offense drive, and a quieted down Clemson fan base. Instead, down by a TD and a pumped up fans for the rest of the game. You cant start that way in away games.
Penalties, especially roughing passer/kicker and hits out of bounds are KILLING us this year! WTF!
Nieche
October 26th, 2010
9:10 am
Who ever knocks Nesbitt as a bad passer this year is either stupid or has not seen any games. Nesbitt would be a Heisman runner if he had any hands to throw it to. Peeples and Hill couldn’t catch an STD in a Bangkok whorehouse. How many passes placed between the numbers will they drop in the endzone this week?
OldGTfan
October 26th, 2010
12:06 pm
Hey hokie, the point of my comment had nothing to do with a ball, a game, or a player. It was intended to point out that you obviously don’t have the where-with-all to enjoy your teams win without mucking it up by opening that gaping hole under your nose and letting all the air out of your head. Do you think Dabo would allow Tie-rod (what names, there must be a bubba in there somewhere) to come over and give coach Johnson some pointers on quarterbacking, or do you think thats asking just too much ? My point this time, I’m sure it’ll go over your head again, is “get a life young fella, there’s more to it that a kids game”.
fan of shorter passes
October 26th, 2010
6:26 pm
@Nieche…agree…those penalties are killers. Would love to start that game again w/out that rough call.