Georgia Tech does well in APR — updated with ACC’s excellence

Georgia Tech’s football and men’s basketball teams posted the biggest improvements in APR scores in information released on Wednesday.

The APR, or Academic Progress Report, measures the eligibility, retention and graduation of athletes on every Division I team in all sports. It is designed to serve as a predictor of future graduation success. The APR scores released are four-year rates based on the 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08 and 2008-09 academic years.

The football team’s score increased for the third consecutive year, reaching 993, the fourth-highest score nationally and tops in the conference, according to the ACC. The team’s  multi-year average of 967 is tied for the third-best score among ACC teams, behind Duke and Miami.

The ACC led all conferences for the fourth straight year in APR (962.4 avg.). Seven ACC schools were ranked in the Top 32 including Clemson (tied for 11th with Vanderbilt, 982). Additionally, Duke (19th, 976), Wake Forest (23rd, 974), Virginia (28th, 972), Boston College (971, 30th) and Miami (32nd, 969) were ranked in the Top 32.

Using the four-year APR numbers, the ACC still finished first for the fourth straight year (955.5) with Duke ranked 5th (983) nationally and Miami 6th (978). Tech ranks behind Georgia (973) in football, but not far, as they are tied with Boston College and Clemson for 23rd place despite a coaching change which always hurts your retention factor in the APR. Using the four-year numbers 7 ACC schools are ranked in the Top 34 including Wake Forest (28th, 966) and North Carolina (947, 34th)

The men’s basketball team’s score was 953, an improvement of 113 points from last year, when it was penalized with the loss of two scholarships. That penalty was served during the 2008-09 season. Its multi-year average of 908 is last among ACC schools. Because it didn’t have a player who left school and was ineligible, the team wasn’t penalized.

“To see our overall scores improve for a third straight year is very encouraging,” Georgia Tech athletic director Dan Radakovich said in a statment. “It’s a tribute to our student-athletes, coaches and staff.

“At the same time, we will continue to strive to raise our numbers each and every year.”

Four teams – golf, volleyball and men’s and women’s cross-country – had perfect scores of 1,000. Baseball (989) was also recognized for ranking in the top 10 percent of its sport nationally.

No Tech team was penalized.

Here are Tech’s scores for the past three years:

Georgia Tech

Multi-Year APR 2006-07/ 2007-08/2008-09

Baseball/974/*989/*989

Men’s Basketball/931/914/908

Men’s Cross Country/950/974/*1000

Football/951/957/967

Golf/1000/*1000/*1000

Men’s Swimming/975/970/974

Men’s Tennis/959/961/976

Men’s Indoor Track/951/955/962

Men’s Outdoor Track/949/953/962

Women’s Basketball/957/952/946

Women’s Cross Country/993/993/*1000

Softball/967/981/985

Women’s Swimming/997/994/990

Women’s Tennis/985/978/978

Women’s Indoor Track/988/986/982

Women’s Outdoor Track/990/988/984

Volleyball/990/*1000/*1000

*Earned NCAA Public Recognition Awards by finishing in the top 10 percent nationally within that sport.

Football multi-year scores

Duke/983

Miami/978

Georgia Tech/967

Clemson/967

Boston College/967

Wake Forest/966

UNC/957

Virginia/947

Virginia Tech/940

N.C. State/937

Maryland/929

FSU/927

Men’s basketball multi-year scores

UNC/995

N.C. State/990

Duke/980

Boston College/978

Virginia Tech/970

Miami/970

Wake Forest/959

Virginia/952

Clemson/946

FSU/944

Maryland/913

Georgia Tech/908

81 comments Add your comment

Biff Pocoroba

June 9th, 2010
8:56 pm

Cool. Hopefully Hewitt can earn a contract extension for these numbers.

Delbert D.

June 9th, 2010
9:11 pm

Good grief. Why even bother with men’s basketball. It’s an embarrassment. Can the program just be canceled and CPH be reassigned to be an assistant in volleyball, or something?

OUCH

June 9th, 2010
9:28 pm

Georgia’s football program posted an APR of 973, second best to Vanderbilt’s 975 in the SEC. Tech had a football APR of 967, tying Boston College and Clemson for third best in the ACC behind Duke’s 983 and Miami’s 978.

The numbers were not as good in men’s basketball. Georgia’s APR of 944 ranked fifth among SEC teams, and Tech’s 908 ranked last in the ACC. Despite scoring below 925, Tech’s basketball program was not penalized because no player left school ineligible in 2008-09.

SO, UGA football has an APR of 973, TECH 967.

UGA BB 944, TECH 908. Hhhhmmmmmmm………..

Well, I guess we know why Reggie couldn’t count to 4.

Worm

June 9th, 2010
9:35 pm

Looks as if tech has had its academic pants pulled down!..

Tom

June 9th, 2010
9:49 pm

Imagine what Tech’s numbers would look like with majors like “Housing” and “Consumer Economics”.

Paul in RDU

June 9th, 2010
11:35 pm

The trend in FB is excellent – looks to me that under Gailey mediocrity wasn’t just confined to the results on the field. Hopefully this trend will continue, but I don’t know how the 4 JRs going pro will affect the score. In interviews I have seen with Hewitt in the past (including a long article in the NYT), he has made some good points about the NCAA APR system resulting in scholarship athletes being put in less challenging classes, but quite frankly the men’s B’Ball APR (last in the ACC!) is embarassing.

Big D Dawg

June 10th, 2010
5:08 am

Rocks for Jocks at Georgia tek

I noticed that UGA Bulldogs beat Georgia tek in APR 973 to 967

AGAIN this year in FOOTBALL

Nerd stupid and LOSERS in football in no way to go through life

GTpak

June 10th, 2010
6:52 am

Doggies,
When your majors are cow milking and tractor pulling you should be able to score a perfect score.

Now get off this blog and back out to plowing the cotton!

Bobbi Dud

June 10th, 2010
7:15 am

I thought I would get a higher grade in Dairy Queen management! The professors liked my curly yellow wig too!

PhD Buzz

June 10th, 2010
7:55 am

I would have to be that the majority of these Dawg fans that posted comments on this article have never seen the inside of a college classroom. Do you even understand the scores? Do you know that it is a multi-year average? I know…I’m wasting my time.

PhD Buzz

June 10th, 2010
7:55 am

I would have to bet that the majority of these Dawg fans that posted comments on this article have never seen the inside of a college classroom. Do you even understand the scores? Do you know that it is a multi-year average? I know…I’m wasting my time.

Burdell

June 10th, 2010
7:57 am

“On the 2008-09 APR single-year rate for Football, Georgia Tech ranks FOURTH NATIONALLY at 993.”

Navigator

June 10th, 2010
8:04 am

With the PAC ??? going super conference and Nebraska & Missouri going Big 10 (it will always be called Big 10) and a raid to the Northeast to get Big East and ACC schools, it’s up to the SEC to lock down the South. With Tech’s scores going up, does that mean a possible entry into the Big 10?? DRad seems to be an SEC guy, but Tech has lost some high scoring kids wanting to play in the Big 10, so do you think that’s a way to get these kids to stay home. This lunacy is going to make college sports wilder than a zoo. It also looks like TCU, BYU Boise St., Colorado, Kansas, K-State, Baylor and some other well known schools will create their own super conference to make it four.

the trueth remains

June 10th, 2010
8:08 am

USC

June 10th, 2010
8:09 am

They lost two year of bowl games and 20 scholarships, WAKE UP AJC!!!!!!!!!

tech fan

June 10th, 2010
8:13 am

Burdell, since CPJ started coaching the accademic standards the we love are…..?

tech fan

June 10th, 2010
8:17 am

Phd Buzzed, do you know 30-24? 1 out of 9? you are a moron.
“Do you even understand the scores? Do you know that it is a multi-year average? I know…I’m wasting my time. “

tech fan

June 10th, 2010
8:23 am

GTpak , You are making us look stupid. Do you wear clothes or drink milk? Do you feel naked without you computer?

tech fan

June 10th, 2010
8:27 am

Tom, most of are football players are not getting engineering degrees, don’t make us look in the mirror.

4 ncs are better than 1

June 10th, 2010
8:40 am

It’s still 4 (or 6) to 1!

That Guy

June 10th, 2010
9:44 am

tech fan,

The point that Tom makes is that UGA athletes have an easier road to academic success than GT athletes due to the vast and diverse number of Majors offered. I’d venture to say that Leisure Studies, Health/PE or Health Promotion are a bit less taxing than what the student athletes at GT have to endure.

PMC

June 10th, 2010
10:08 am

So is there any aspect of the program where Paul Hewitt can feel like he’s doing really well?

Recruiting I guess.

Doug Roberson

June 10th, 2010
10:40 am

Guys, actually the men’s basketball team’s single-year score was 953.

Joe

June 10th, 2010
10:44 am

Off topic……any offical word on the transfer from Arkansas St??

I e-mailed the AJC two days ago….but have heard not a word. Foxsports had word on it on their website Tuesday….but I would like to hear a local confirmation from someone in the know….

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
10:58 am

Lost in baseball and football to a real conference

Back to the library Techies to study up on how to win in athletics

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
10:58 am

Oh I forgot basketball too

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
11:14 am

The APR does so much for your revenue, fan support, and program.

Doug

Tech is no better than UGA

When people think academics what comes to mind

I’ll tell you

Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, Cambridge, Oxford

2nd tier

Berkley, Duke, Columbia, Caltech, Cornell, Stanford

After those

Emory, University of Chicago, Notre Dame, Virginia, Brown, John Hopkins

After those

Who really cares we are all a bunch of wanna bees

So take your academics and stuff it no one cares

BooYAmoon

June 10th, 2010
11:49 am

How many points is a 3 point shot worth in basketball?

Buzz

June 10th, 2010
12:02 pm

Difficulty comparison: GT academics for athletes equals the Atlanta Braves while uga academics equals the Kansas City Royals. They are both baseball but ……

Yep

June 10th, 2010
12:39 pm

Sounds about right. It will be funny to see what the Dawg fans have to say about this. That is the very reason I wouldn’t want Tech to jump to the SEC. Other than Vandy, there isn’t much emphasis on academics throughout the conference.

Yep

June 10th, 2010
12:46 pm

OUCH,

It’s a heck of a lot easier to achieve a score that high when you can major in Public Housing Administration and Chicken Farming, as opposed to Aerospace or Chemical Engineering. Hmmmmmmmmm, Cleaning chicken dung or building rocket ships??? You are comparing apples to oranges my friend.

dawgfan

June 10th, 2010
12:49 pm

The vast majority of Tech football players are management majors and not engineering majors. Although there is a calculus requirement for management majors, it is watered down and not nearly as stringent as the math courses required of engineering majors. And let us not forget the army of tutors and academic support that Tech athletes have at their disposal. Simply put, academic life for a Tech athlete is not nearly as difficult as Techies would like everyone to believe.

Basically, when Tech can’t perform on the field their poor sport fans make up a bunch of lies about academics as an excuse. This is particularly true when it comes to their big brother in Athens. It is simply the most pathetic thing I have ever seen in my life.

Thanks.

Whaaa

June 10th, 2010
12:58 pm

Reality Stinks,

I am betting you might have taken a few semesters and a Community College before getting into refrigerator repair. Your list obviously shows your lack of knowledge about academic rankings. Any moron who puts Brown and Johns Hopkins at the bottom of a list like that has to be a little off. If you will check your rankings more closely, you will see that GT is number one in 4 engineering programs, ahead of Caltech and MIT. Not to mention that CalTech isn’t really in the race in most categories. Tech is in the top 2 or 3 in every engineering program offered. Now, I understand that you just listed a bunch of schools that you heard on TV shows and I won’t hold that against you. But, please don’t bring a knife to a gun fight next time around.

Whaaa

June 10th, 2010
12:59 pm

Jacket Backer

June 10th, 2010
1:38 pm

Go Jackets!!!…. ACC is where we belong……hope this expansion stuff does not screw this up…

Reality

June 10th, 2010
1:41 pm

Love how the idiot SEC fans think that any ACC team would leave our conference for their sorry one. The ACC is stronger in many many ways compared to the SEC. Why isn’t the AJC writing anything about the ACC inviting SEC members to join us?????

Jacket Backer

June 10th, 2010
1:41 pm

oh, football team reached 993, best in the ACC and 4th nationally….some of the ‘tards apparently can’t read….

Reality

June 10th, 2010
1:44 pm

dawgfan -

Give me a break! Management majors and IE majors at GA Tech are soooooo much more difficult than the pitiful Recreation majors at ugag. There is just no comparison. In fact, I would put any major at all up against your typical football player major! If you don’t ‘get it’ then you need to go back to school – and I mean a real college, not ugag.

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
1:47 pm

Jacket Backer

I can read and like always who cares about academics

Do you tards think the expansion is about academics please its revenue

Something of an issue for Tech since they cant fill a highschool stadium nor turn on TV sets

Reality

June 10th, 2010
1:47 pm

dawgfan -

The proof is in the results, right? Ask any corporate recruiter – any at all – and lisen to their answer. Ask THEM to compare ugag grads to Tech grads – how do THEY compare them when those grads are competing for the same job?

The answer is mostly the same from ALL corporate recruiters….. to compare a Tech grad to a uga grad evenly, you add 1 point to the gpa of the Tech grad. In other words, a 2.5 gpa at Tech is equal to a 3.5 gpa at ugag.

Doesn’t that explain anything to you? Likely not…

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

Reality

If Tech was this great program with great student athletes then why are 95% of your student athletes in other majors than engineering

give me a break with your Management majors at Tech have it so hard

Reality

June 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

@ Reality stinks….

Regarding stadium and attendence, let’s compare apples and apples. I understand that you are an idiot and only can recite sound bites, but try to follow anyway…..

1. UGA student population around what? 60,0000?
2. UGA stadium capacity around what? 60,000?

1. Tech student population around what? 13,000?
2. Tech stadium capacity around what? 50,000?

What ugag can bring forth a crowd at a football game that is 4 times the student population, THEN we can talk. Until then, u need to shut up!

Reality

June 10th, 2010
1:52 pm

@Reality stinks –

You make no sense (and it isn’t shocking). A Management major at Tech is not easy. There is no easy major at Tech. You just don’t get it.

At ugag, there are total BS majors…. recreation to name just one. How many points is a 3 point shot worth? Are you kidding me?

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
2:07 pm

Reality

Im the idiot look at your figures again and again and again

UGA stadium capacity is 92,700 your 32,000 off

UGA student enrollment is around 31,000 again 30,000 off

UGA brings a crowd 3 times its student population and probably more since stadium expansion talks is in the works

GaTECH is in the middle of 5.6million people and cannot fill a highschool stadium. What does that mean TECH is irrevelant

I let you change your name so you wont embarrass yourself anymore with those stupid figures and comments. Hopefully your not a Tech grad because your math is middle school level you dope

11-0-1

June 10th, 2010
2:18 pm

So these numbers prove that Tech players are smarter than uga. Most rational people already knew this, but now we have stats to back it up. Jan Kemp must be proud of her under educated puppies.

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
2:30 pm

11-0-1

Tech’s President must be proud of taking a back seat in engineering to the Cal Berkley’s, Standfords, and MIT’s of the engineering world

Bobby Dudd must be proud of the Tech football team too

Oh by the way Tech Fans,

Since Tech is so stringent in academics with its athletic department how is the George O’Leary background check comming

Jacket backer

June 10th, 2010
2:32 pm

As far as fanbases go, lets not forget the hundreds of thousands of high school dropouts that claim UGA as their school. Buying a five dollar UGA hat at Walmart does not make you a graduate. Would be very interesting to see what % of Tech fans actually graduated from any college verses the same stat for UGA. And believe it or not, outside of Athens, everyone else on the planet recognizes the higher value in a Tech degree over the toilet paper they dispense at UGA’s commencement. That may be why we have such a huge international student body.

11-0-1

June 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

Reality Stinks – Umm, that’s one stooopid post. Alot of words, but ZERO meaning. You should try politics.

Cobbjacket

June 10th, 2010
2:40 pm

Are these bb numbers enough to convince someone over there to stop recruiting the one and done’s. They look great on the recruiting sheets and it makes the school look good to send players to the NBA, but you cannot build a consistent winner without long term athlete commitments. It was awe inspiring watching Favors sometimes this year, but the lack of consistency was frustrating. You cannot develop a team chemistry if you have a revolving door on the program. Don’t get me wrong, this is not all the fault CPH. It’s a multi faceted issue that is only going to get worse as the money in the NBA grows. And I fear any attempt by the NCAA to create a rule like the one in football will simply send these one and done’s straight to the NBA and dilute the basketball product. Any thoughts?

Reality Stinks

June 10th, 2010
3:04 pm

Jacket Backer

Your right it doesnt make you a graduate but it tells you they want to be a part of something

Got news for you brother those folks buying UGA hats at Walmart, Target, and the Shell station tell you one thing, and that is they want to be a part of success. UGA athletics means success.

UGA ranked #5 among all NCAA schools in merchandise purchased.

Sorry but Tech wasnt even close even though its located in the middle of 5 million people

Thats a shame to be in the middle of that many people and your irrevelant in the publics eye to a school 65 miles away from such a large population

Thats also why you have such a huge international population. When the foreigners arrive at Hartsfield the first college they see is Tech. Americans already know about your dump thats why they go to UGA