Morgan, Dwyer, Burnett gone? — updated

The remaining juniors who were considering leaving school for the NFL are holding a press conference at Tech tomorrow.

Safety Morgan Burnett, defensive end Derrick Morgan and  B-back Jonathan Dwyer will address the media at 1 p.m. tomorrow. People don’t usually hold press conferences to announce that they are staying, but it has happened before. And with the three players holding a conference at the same time, you never know.

More to come on this soon…

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Regarding the search for a defensive coordinator, coach Paul Johnson, like hundreds of others, will be at the coaches’ convention in Orlando for the next couple of days. It’s natural to think that he will meet with candidates while there.

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For the sake of fun, let’s assume that Al Groh, which may not be a solid assumption after speak to him Sunday night (more on that in print and on ajc.com)  is hired as defensive coordinator and Tech installs a 3-4 scheme.

Who would fit where?

Because we’re doing this as a fun exericse, let’s assume that Derrick Morgan and Morgan Burnett have left for the NFL. We will also assume that all the injured players are healthy and can play, so Hall, Anderson, Taylor, Jackson, etc. are back.

All formations can be run differently, but in most 3-4s the defensive linemen are responsible for two gaps, compared to the one gaps that the linemen in the 4-3 are responsible for.

The linemen are usually bigger because they are there to get a push into the backfield, disrupt the blocking schemes and take up blockers and space so that the linebackers and safeties can make plays.

So, who would start on the line in Tech’s 3-4? If bigger is the model, some combination of T.J. Barnes, J.C. Lanier, Jason Peters, Izaan Cross and Ben Anderson would seem like a natural rotation. Robert Hall and Logan Walls, who weigh less than the others, would be in the scheme, as well. There’s really not a bonafide pass rusher in that group, though. But, that’s mostly ok because the linebackers are there for that.

Nose tackle is the key. the player has to be huge and active to control the gaps on either side of the center. Would that be Anderson? He’s not as big as Barnes or Lanier, so I’m not sure. He is strong at the point of attack, though.

In passing situations, Anthony Egbuniwe and Emmanuel Dieke could come in to rush the passer.

Tech’s linebackers would seem to be the strength of the defense next season, with Burnett, Jefferson, Jackson, Sylvester, Munroe and Edwards (who played safety this season) back. All are quick and can move sideline to sideline. Sylvester, in particular, really showed what he could do in the Orange Bowl. It’s not beyond possibility that Egbuniwe and Dieke could play some lb in certain situations.

Anyway, all that’s just fun conjecture.  Tell me how you think they’d line up.

26 comments Add your comment

Tech Fan

January 10th, 2010
7:10 pm

After seeing that the 4-3 was so great last season, why the heck not try out the 3-4.

Tech Fan

January 10th, 2010
7:11 pm

And hate to say it, but those three are going on to the NFL. Good luck guys!

Cuttysark

January 10th, 2010
7:19 pm

T.J. Barnes and Ben Anderson would be the tackles and J.C Lanier at the nose along with Logan Walls. Peters and Cross would rotate at the tackle spots with Too Tall and Egbuniwe for passing situations.

It appears that all of the juniors will declare for the NFL and I wish them all the best. This tends to become a distraction for most coaches, however, given that these players have shown that they can play in any system, especially one that they were not recruited to play in, that they are quite versatile and should do well at the next level

For more Georgia Tech football articles and a reveiew of the Orange Bowl Game go to http://isportsweb.com. Go Jackets!

Dacula Jacket

January 10th, 2010
7:47 pm

Good luck in the NFL guys! Thanks for all you’ve done for the program. CPJ and crew: Keep it up on the recruiting trail and get some more guys like Dwyer, Thomas, Burnette, and Morgan! I hope to hear soon that Groh is joining us.

Hanks

January 10th, 2010
8:10 pm

Isn’t it weird for the three players to appear together to say they’re leaving? That almost makes me think that they’ve decided to stay.
But I’ve been known to believe in the tooth fairy, too.

Kay

January 10th, 2010
8:12 pm

Why would Thomas declare he’s leaving in a separate press conference from Dwyer, Burnett, and Morgan?

RAMBLE ON!!!

January 10th, 2010
8:19 pm

pretty good stuff Doug.

Rodney Dangerfield

January 10th, 2010
8:23 pm

Good luck in the NFL if you make it. I would say Derrick Morgan is a lock and could see immediate playing time. Jonathan Dwyer is probably a 2nd round pick and could see some 2nd or 3rd string duty depending on the team he goes to. I do think that Bay Bay and Burnett leaving could be mistakes. Bay Bay does not have NFL hands, but can block well – sounds like a TE in the NFL to me. Burnett just seems kind of small and needs to bulk up. He seems to have more of a corner’s size not an NFL safety. Anyway I could see Bay Bay and Burnett slipping in the draft to after the 4th round.

Case in point. Everyone was in Michael Johnson’s ear saying how he was going late in the first round last year when in reality he slipped to the third round.

With all three planning a press conference at the same time, then I would say 80% they are all gone and 20% they all stay.

Solid Gold Dancer

January 10th, 2010
8:42 pm

Gone like a ‘55 Cadillac………hurts in the small picture. Big picture is that recruits will see that GT can put players in the NFL. That’s the price you pay with having success in your program. It’s not a bad problem to have.

not so fast my friend

January 10th, 2010
8:44 pm

didn’t see Calvin Johnson making a splash in his first NFL season, he really should have stayed at GT another year and so should these guys but the agents are exaggerating the impact to get them to go so they can make money off these guys..too bad

VegasGT

January 10th, 2010
8:51 pm

I am pretty sure Morgan will be gone and I do believe his draft position supports that decision. I do not believe that either Thomas’ or Burnett’s draft position makes it a wise move to enter the draft this year, but in Thomas’ case, I am not sure another year would bring him much of a change in position or ability. Burnett, on the other hand would benefit greatly by another year, just as his projected draft position shows. Dwyer is a wild card. He fits in that gray area as to whether his draft position supports going early or staying another year. I do believe he could benefit from another year, but he could easily fall the other way. I think he is ready for the NFL, but I also believe he could get a better draft position with another year to prepare.

I also thought it was unusual for one guy to announce one day and three others schedule theirs at a different time together.

Whether I think their decisions are wise or not, I wish them all the best and good luck whatever they decide.

no egges please

January 10th, 2010
8:52 pm

Egbuniwe aint cuttin’ it. Hopefully next year’s best pass rusher was a redshirt this year. Robert Hall isn’t the answer. Forced-fit personnel in new 3-4 will get gashed gashed gashed.

Dawg Hater

January 10th, 2010
9:08 pm

Hate to get Groh, the man is 65 pushing 66, couldn’t win at Virginia, why in the world would he even be considered? Get a young man, even Willy Martinez held Vandy to 10 !!!! Why not the DC at Navy? Tenuta?

Don

January 10th, 2010
9:24 pm

They’re gone. Good luck in the nfl guys. Wish you would have won the OB.

Jason

January 10th, 2010
9:37 pm

Strange comment thread. 14 comments in, and no UG Dogs have shared their impressive intellects with us yet? What’s keeping them?

jojo

January 10th, 2010
9:40 pm

Thomas should have stayed. At best he would be a third rounder. Burnett would be a third or forth rounder. BIG difference in the money. Dwyer and Morgan are mid to late first round. Best to leave and take the money. I sure hope Al Groh gets the job. He is a solid coach. Virginia has had bad recuiting for the past three years.Al Groh is not the only person to blame for that.

IndyGT

January 10th, 2010
10:23 pm

I do find it strange that bay bay had his own press conference but what do I know.. And this is definitely a good problem to have shows other recruits GT is as good as any other school as farad an NFL future is concerned. I would like to see Burnett stay one more year, but can’t argue with that kind of money. Morgan is a no brained and I thank him for 3 good years. Dwyer i’d love to have back the most, but don’t see him staying. I’m sure CPJ will have us competing regardless of who we lose. Go jackets!

JJ

January 10th, 2010
10:26 pm

If Derrick Morgan comes back, it would be one of the biggest shockers in football.

I don’t think the three of them calling a press conference together means that much. I do believe all three will declare for the draft, but stranger things have happened.

Recruiting will have to shift into overdrive if the three of them go to the draft along with Thomas. There will probably be at least one transfer – there always is on FBS teams in the offseason. I figure we will have at least 2 ’ships open up, maybe 5.

west Coast Bee

January 11th, 2010
2:05 am

Wouldn’t it be awesome if those guys stayed. Al three come up and say let’s do it big next year!

superDawg

January 11th, 2010
8:26 am

See’ya would’nt wont to be’ya.

Scott

January 11th, 2010
11:15 am

They are gone. Shame, but oh well. The offense will continue to perform and hopefully the defense gets better.

Yes draft positions for MB, JD, and Thomas may not be as high as if they stayed a year, but with the injury to Bradford – it’s a big reason to move on.

bye-bye

January 11th, 2010
11:22 am

The last of Gailey’s studs saying c-ya!!!! The Gobbler will be in a world of hurt next year

jablonski

January 11th, 2010
1:15 pm

(((((30-24)))) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAH

Just a reminder….Glad it still hurts so bad!!!

The Other St. Simons

January 11th, 2010
1:23 pm

I wish there was more BUZZ going on about your juniors leaving. Seems all of your fans are over on UGA board.

Brunswick-Tech

January 11th, 2010
1:31 pm

The price of success. Good luck boys.

Hypnotist

January 13th, 2010
4:23 pm

Great Page! Continue the fantastic job!