Miami, Ft. Lauderdale or Plantation?!? Who cares. It’s Florida and it’s warm

Interesting posts. Some of you seem to miss the point that GT is relevant to those people whose opinion matter to us Tech fans. What is truly irrelevant is comments from the bulldawg nation in regards to GT. Hard as you dawg fans may try to hide it, it is obvious that the success of the GT program is a harsh pill to swallow.In fact, GT playing in the OB doesn’t seem to be as irrelevant as dawg fans claim it to be, as demonstrated by all the attempts instill some sort of discomfort to Tech fans enjoying their BCS Bowl Bound Team Yellow Jackets. Some may call this behavior an “obsession”. Posting disparaging remarks about GT is probably your best therapy, although it does not address the cause of your discomfort, i.e., GT is a rising power in college football, despite our number 80th recruiting classes (your words, not mine). I, for one, am amused and happy to see that the “middle of the pack” shoe is now on the other foot. Win or lose I will have a blast at the game watching the ACC Champion Yellow Jackets run all over Iowa in the sunny South Florida BCS Orange Bowl!

Go Jackets, THWG!!!!!!!

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I see Clemson beat Kentucky.

ACC 1, SEC 0.

But as all the UGA posters say, UK is not one of the “elite” programs. They didn’t beat anybody this year. Except for UGA.

So since Clemson beat UK, and UK beat UGA, and GT beat Clemson TWICE this year, I guess that makes GT the SEC East champs now??

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Iowa’s defensive line is not any bigger or tougher than Clemson’s, UNC’s, or VT’s… im not worried about their defense. If anything that would slow us down on offense, it would be due to the layoff and we would shoot ourselves in the foot with missed blocks, poor timing, and fumbles.

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OH Doug ,to answer tart of your question,I think the biggest problem for tech is going to keep or get their timing for the offense.defense is not that big a deal—we’re not going to be great on defense regardless of how much time we have off.At least 3 juniors leave-S,WR,B back.

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THE YELLOW TUCKS ARE NOT IN THE PUMPKIN BOWL IN MIAMI. THEY ARE AT THE CALLAWAY GARDENS LOOKING AT THE END OF THEIR STREAM AT THEIR IMAGE (YELLOW JACKET) ON THOSE WATERLESS URINALS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA—- EVEN CORPORATIONS KNOW WHERE THE PROPER IMAGE OF THE YELLOW TUCKS SHOULD BE. HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA FOREVER AND EVER. —— AND WITH EMPHASIS.

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Can someone give me a clear reason Tech claims 4 national championships? I did a great deal of research on the subject and couldn’t find out why. Prior to the 1950’s there were so many polls and methodologies used it was hard to pinpoint a consensus number one. By the same logic Tech uses, Georgia won the championship in 1927, 1942 and 1946.

Even with the most recent championship in 1990 almost all of the polls picked Colorado as the number one team.

I’m serious. Why does Tech claim four national championships? Is there a definitive list I missed?

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Well, gordon7, Tech beat Clemson twice, which beat kentucky, who beat UGA if you wanna play that game. Of course you will argue that it doesnt matter cause UGA beat tech on the field. So thats why the orange bowl is being played. Who beat who earlier in the season means nothing

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Since GA fans are so proud of beating 4th rate high school teams

MaxPreps Xcellent 10 final 2009 high school rankings

1. Georgia Bullpuppies: After last year’s stinging defeat BETWEEN THE HEDGES, the bullpuppies were barely able to hold on this year to avenge last year’s defeat to their in state rivals to claim their first National Title since 1980, although they did have to drop down a few classifications to do so.

2. Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, N.J.), 12-0. Last Week: 2. Season complete. Non-Public Group IV state champions.

3. Abilene (Texas), 16-0. Last Week: 2. Ronnell Sims rushed for 215 yards and three touchdowns to lead Abilene to a 5A-II state title over Katy, 28-17. Cousin Hershel Sims added a 60-yard TD run as the Eagles captured their first state title since 1956.

4. Butler (Matthews, N.C.), 15-0. Last Week: 3. Season complete. 4A state champions.

5. Servite (Anaheim, Calif.), 14-1. Last Week: 6. With a 33-30 win over Rocklin, Servite captured the CIF Division II title. Nicholas Echeverry kicked a 23-yard field goal as time expired to clinch the victory for the Friars.

6. Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.), 14-1. Last Week: NR. Dwyer captured Florida’s 4A crown, dominating previously-unbeaten Niceville 42-14. Since a season-opening loss to Glades Central, the Panthers have blown out each opponent they have faced.

7. Memphis University (Memphis, Tenn.), 13-0. Last Week: 4. Season complete. Division II-AA state champions.

8. Davidson (Hilliard, Ohio), 13-1. Last Week: 5. Season complete. Division I state champions.

9. Hoover (Ala.), 14-1. Last Week: 7. Season complete. 6A state champions.

10. Plant (Tampa, Fla.), 13-1. Last Week: 10. Plant followed a 20-0 blanking of Lakeland to beat Manatee 21-14, winning a 5A state title. Junior James Wilder Jr. ran for 137 yards and a touchdown to give Plant its second straight championship.

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Bulldawg, are you seriously stupid enough to be BRAGGING about having a higher APR? Try to follow…..

GT CONSISTENTLY has one of the highest (this past year, THE highest) average SAT scores for incoming freshman football players IN THE COUNTRY.

UGA signs “student-athletes” every year that are bonafide IDIOTS.

Yet, SOMEHOW, UGA continues to keep these IDIOTS eligible and on track to GRADUATE.

Leonard Pope (illiterate). Jarius Wynn (Wonderlich of 12). Knowshon Moreno (WL of 13). Now there’s Washaun Ealey, who makes MOST of them look like STEPHEN F’N HAWKING.

For Ealey to stay eligible more than one season, it would take academic shenanigans that would make the pre-Jan Kemp days look like a THINK TANK. Yet, who here bets he WILL somehow stay eligible?

Bulldawg, it is YOU who should be embarrassed to have a program that continues to operate under a PLANTATION SYSTEM. Every summer, it’s PINS AND NEEDLES waiting to see which of the new BOATLOAD of ILLITERATES will fail to meet NCAA MINIMUMS. Ever wonder why there’s never any SUSPENSE like that on NORTH AVENUE?

Could you imagine the attrition from EVERY UGA SIGNING CLASS if those “student-athletes” had to actually tackle genuine academics like at TECH?? GRADUATE? JESUS, HALF OF EACH CLASS WOULDN’T SURVIVE ONE YEAR!

And yet they SOMEHOW stay eligible and bump the APR in ATHENS? Yeah, Bulldawg, you should be WALKING TALL!

Keeping IDIOTS ELIGIBLE….that’s ANOTHER…..BULLDOG POINT of PRIDE!!

LOL!!!

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gordon7,

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/national_championships/nchamps_team.php

Happy New Year to you and yours! Hope it’s a good one!

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Hawkeyeinmiami, if you consider watching a hammer hitting the head of a nail over and over again a blast then yes, the Georgia-Georgia Tech series is a blast as well.

Hammer 30 Nail 24.

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To Tech fans poster, sounds like you need a vacation because you’re about to go off the deep end. Two posts in the middle of the night must be keeping you from sleep. Lighten up buddie. These are college students. Get a grip!!

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Tom….

Thanks for the list. I had not seen that one. However, I guess I was looking for something a little more scientific than a poll that relies so heavily on “what the schools claim” as justification for being put on the list. For instance, Tech claims to be the national champions in 1952 so they are on the list you linked for that year, but both the AP and the Coaches’ Poll for that year had Michigan State as the champs.

I’m not trying to be difficult. I went to Emory so I don’t have great loyalty to either Tech or UGA. I’m just wondering what criteria Tech uses to make that claim other than the fact they claimed to be the champs for those years.

Hope you have a great 2010 as well.

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“The future of the program hinges on doing two things consistently: 1) Beating UGA and 2) winning the ACC championship. ”

This is incorrect. First things first. First, recruiting has to get much better on the defensive side of the ball. Johnson says he knows what he needs in recruiting for the offense, and I will give him the benefit of the doubt. No one slowed Tech down this year but Miami, in the 3rd game in two weeks deal. But defense is another story.

You will not consistently do anything unless the defense improves a whole lot. Tech got lucky this year outscoring people. This will not happen every year. If the QB goes down it is an entirely different team. You can hang your hat on great defense, not great offense.

Recruiting for defense must improve – this year is a good start. But it must improve even more. The only way to consistently beat Georgia is to out recruit them. And so far, this is not happening.

Back in the Dodd era when both schools were white & both teams white, Tech pretty much owned UGA because they out recruited them. But since regained our senses, integrated, & introduced the black player, UGA has pretty much owned Tech. And the difference is recruiting. Scout has this years’ classes rated nationally as follows – Georgia at #6 and Tech at #41. This will not consistently beat many SEC teams, especially UGA. The miracle is that Tech has been able to keep the scores fairly close. But if you can reach the level of UGA in recruiting, then you will consistently be in the hunt for the ACC crown.

Like it or not, believe it or not, this is just the way it is.

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gordon7, check out the following link for a list of all college football champions since the beginning of time (LOL).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_National_Football_Championship

You will see that Tech is listed 6 times, and UGAG 5 times. If you dig a little bit deeper, you can find the official NCAA site where Tech is listed 3 times (for whatever reason, they do not recognize 1952, even though Tech was 12-0 and in a bowl, whereas MSU was 9-0 and in no bowl). On that site, UGAG is only listed once (1980).

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Tom – that list has Harvard as claiming 10 titles. Do they have the better program or history? Do you see where I’m going with this?

Supersize – yeah, I’ll get those fries out to you quick. You probably have to eat lots of fast food on your meager compensation.

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collegeballfan, you are correct in saying that Tech’s recruiting has not been up to UGAG’s over most of the past 40 years, but I think that is as much due to coaches as anything. UGAG had Dooley at the start of that time, and he succeeded first on the field, and then on the recruiting trail. That has continued. Meanwhile, Tech went through a string of losers, or at the best very mediocre coaches, until Bobby Ross arrived. Unfortunately, he was followed by the biggest loser of all, Bill Lewis. O’Leary brought Tech back to a decent competitive level, but then he was followed by a good man, but a terrible coach, in Chan Gailey. If CPJ can recruit the kind of talent he needs, which does not have to be the 5-star athletes that UGAG has wasted most years recently, then the wins will continue, and the recruiting will improve, hopefully on defense. And regarding that 5-star criterion, a 5-star recruit in CPJ’s offense might not be worth a damn, but a 2 or 3-star recruit might turn into a true 5-star athlete, simply because he is the best at what he does in an offense the nature of which can’t be graded in comparison to other college offenses. In other words, what’s good for other schools might not be good for Tech, and what’s good for Tech might not be any good in traditional offenses. But that certainly doesn’t mean they are inferior athletes by a long shot. But we DO HAVE TO recruit and sign better defensive players.

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dawgy, I think it shows Harvard’s last title in 1919, too. Princeton has even more.

Again, it’s partially a product of the various eras. Also, it was readily apparent until the late 50’s or so that most Southern programs (except maybe Bama?) had a terrible time overcoming the long-standing “Northern bias” in polls and reporting. Most of the “national” sportswriting and publications were still coming out of the NE and MW (think of Grantland Rice, etc…).

Many Southern teams got screwed on a regular basis in favor of what were many times (probably) inferior Northern/Midwestern teams…..and the polls also were finalized before any bowl games.

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dawgy, the only time I eat fast food is when I am traveling to places like MIAMI FOR THE ORANGE BOWL.

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What has always somewhat surprised me about the results of integrating is that Tech was the first (or at least one of the first) teams in the south to integrate. You would think that that would have meant something, but it apparently did not. Also Tech bucked sourthern tradition AND the governor of Georgia in order to play an integrated team in a bowl game under Dodd. That was NATIONAL NEWS too.

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Supersize – look, I’m happy for tech. You guys are playing in a bowl that’s not played on blue turf. You’re playing in a major bowl for the first time in over 4 decades. FOUR DECADES. I think that’s great. I really do. Good for tech.

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Supersize – I like the story of how Bill Fulcher quit. You know, when he walked into the locker room and Jesse Jackson was there trying to brainwash the rest of the team (he already got to McAshan (sp?)). That was a good one.

Oh, and I’d be wronging the discussion if I didn’t mention the last tech alumnus governor, Jimmy Carter. Carter, incidentally, ran for governor on a platform of segregation. Pretty typical.

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dawgy, I’m not making excuses for Tech’s not having played in one of the so-called major bowls since 1967 (Jan 1, 1967, that is). It, however, is not Tech’s fault for not playing in the 1990 Orange Bowl. Tech wanted to play Colorado, but the “powers that be” wanted f**g Notre Dame instead. But even though the Citrus Bowl was not considered a major bowl, it still produced one-half of the shared national championship for that year. And don’t try to belittle a shared championship. That was one of MANY MANY shared championships through the years; just ask Alabama, USC, LSU, and others if shared championships are significant or not. You and I both know what each of those schools will say.

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If BOTH teams can upgrade on D next year, they will EACH be formidable up and down the schedule.

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hey, you won’t find me ridiculing shared titles. For the life of me I can’t figure out why we don’t claim the ones we shared in ‘27, ‘46, or ‘68. All those schools you just mentioned claim titles of the same or lesser ilk. And yes, that includes tech.

It’s a PR failure on the AD in Athens, I’ll agree with you there.

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