You be the judge
Since there has been much ado about the blocks made by Georgia Tech against Virginia Tech in their game two weeks ago, I thought I’d let you see a couple of clips that a Hokies fan posted on youtube.com
The first:
Chop block?
As you can see, at first it appears that the Virginia Tech defensive lineman is being chop blocked, an illegal block in which one player engages a defender high while another defender engages him low.
But, if you watch closely, Georgia Tech’s guard actually doesn’t engage the defender, he simply runs by and he two players briefly collide. It is then that Georgia Tech’s tackle goes low and hits him. It’s a fine line, but it is the line.
I have no idea if I’m correct, but that’s what it looks like to me.
The second:
Crackback block?
Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer said this was one of several plays in which safety Kam Chancellor was illegally blocked.
I’m sorry, but I don’t see it. Chancellor is cleanly blocked.
So, there are likely other plays, but at least in these two examples I don’t see it.
There had to have been some, otherwise the ACC wouldn’t have told Beamer that there were four missed blocks.
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In other news, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson said that Cooper Taylor likely won’t play again this season. He is going to apply to the NCAA for a medical redshirt.
Julian Burnett may return this week, however.
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TechDan
October 26th, 2009
9:20 pm
First!
And it’s “ado,” not “to do.”
Go Jackets
October 26th, 2009
9:23 pm
Virginia Tech shouldn’t be calling us dirty when they’ve had players like Marcus Vick on the team.
hedgepruner
October 26th, 2009
9:25 pm
Beamer didnt complain about any blocks last year when the turkeys “I mean gobblers”,won at home , all of a sudden when they get thier arses kicked they want to play that card, get over it VT , Georgia Tech was just the better team that night !!! THWG !!!!
Tim
October 26th, 2009
9:30 pm
Stop crying turkeys! We won fair and square…not like last year when the refs gave you the game on the bogus helmut to helmut call.
Born2Buzz
October 26th, 2009
9:32 pm
The chop block was dicey and kind of cheap. I didn’t notice it at first because it was on the back end of the play.
The crack back was a clean block .
Too bad about Cooper. Hope he can come back next year.
OMG
October 26th, 2009
9:37 pm
I’m glad the story just came out how VT Coach Beamer and Kam Chancellor are crying that they were chopped blocked. It gives me another opportunity to mock these back wood inbreds and first losers by the way .. too bad too sad. Coach Paul Johnson has already addressed the ACC officials last summer in a conference about what a chop block really is and what isn’t. You know keep up the boo hooing and you might not even be the first losers of coastal. Duke might take your place. Now go back to tending your sheep or blanking your sheep and shut up LOSERS
GTMike
October 26th, 2009
9:39 pm
In the first case, the VT player might have avoided the block had he not been preoccupied with grabbing the GT guard’s jersey as he ran by. That’s called defensive holding.
In the second case, the block is clearly not below the waist and is legal.
I think VT players just don’t like being blocked.
Alabama Jack
October 26th, 2009
9:43 pm
BEAT VANDY and best to Cooper Taylor. He is a warrior.
Voice of Reason
October 26th, 2009
9:44 pm
There are always missed calls on blocks. I saw at least 5 “illegal” holds on the VT OL, and a late hit OOB, but you don’t see our coach crying in the media about it. Boooo, hooooo, hoooo. The VT fans, coach’s and players are really starting to look like clowns. I guess with chucky the chest gone, someone had to take his place.
Blue Pants
October 26th, 2009
9:46 pm
You know you’re in Hell when the only football on is UGA vs. VA Tech. What a sickening image.
cremins
October 26th, 2009
9:48 pm
Block 1: watch the center and guard to his right. Definately a high-low. The block at the top of the screen is legal (and the one everyone, Doug included seems to be looking at because the defender flops like a limp fish).
StraightJacket
October 26th, 2009
9:49 pm
Actually, I think they’re BOTH illegal.
In flag football.
VPI&SU whining in THESE cases reminds me of the classic dual matchup: They bought a knife to a gunfight.
-SJ
Tallahassee Jacket
October 26th, 2009
9:52 pm
Seriously Frank? Below the waist? You’re joking, right?
Freezekalo7
October 26th, 2009
9:54 pm
So VT is complaining and Kam Chancellor is upset because ESPN called him out on our halftime ajustment. Sounds like his issue is with ESPN and not GT and CPJ. This is stupid. He is just mad cause he looked like an idiot on the field & ESPN. Thus causing him to sound foolish now… Grow up Kam…
Freeze
Buzz29
October 26th, 2009
9:54 pm
Best wishes to Coop. Sour grapes from Beamer. BTW, what the hell is wrong with Beamer’s face?
George P
October 26th, 2009
9:58 pm
In the first clip, if you look just above the center, then, yes, he blocked him in the back of the legs, and that should have been called.
In the second clip it’s all good, although on Nesbitt’s first touchdown it looks as if Chancellor grabs Anthony Allen’s facemask. You can see that one clearer in the ESPN video that identifies Chancellor.
On the last touchdown Chancellor isn’t even knocked down. The blocker just stands in his way.
VT = Bunch Of Whiners
October 26th, 2009
10:15 pm
I have long been a fan of Frank Beamer and had the utmost respect for him. However, this complaint about illegal blocks by Georgia Tech not being called is nothing but childish. Have you ever seen a player and coaches wait over a week then complain to their local newspaper about calls that were not made? On the block on Kam “Kan’t Tackle” Chancellor during Nesbitt’s last touchdown run – that was nothing but a good block (it certainly was not below the waist). Did Paul Johnson or other coaches or players complain to the local newspaper about the holding calls that were not called against Virginia Tech offensive linemen (against Derrick Morgan several times)? No, they did not. VT coaches and players are acting like a bunch of whiners. Come on, VT, man up!
Cuttysark
October 26th, 2009
10:19 pm
Doug, thanks for the films. They are not violations. Too bad Kam and the Hokies cann’t just move on and accept the loss. Says a lot about their program. Poor sports!
Go to http://isportsweb.com for articles on Kam Chancellor and his inability to back up his bravado. Sorry to hear about Cooper Taylor. But Logan Walls had a similar cardiac procedure and after sitting out a year, is doing just fine as a defensive tackle. Go Tech
JJacket
October 26th, 2009
10:19 pm
The drive we had the supposed “chop block” on didn’t even lead to a score.
So they are pointing out a drive that led to “0″ points as a reason they lost the game?
Pathetic.
TDone
October 26th, 2009
10:20 pm
I guess if I were “0″ for Atlanta in 2009, I would be complaining too.
Hokie, Hokie, Hokie Chik-fil-a, anyone?
Go Jackets!!!
macrotech
October 26th, 2009
10:21 pm
Did vt use tape to mark a spot on the field for field goals?!
Cuttysark
October 26th, 2009
10:21 pm
To Buzz29, Coach Beamer was burned as a kid.
Georgia Tech 2011 NC!!!!
October 26th, 2009
10:23 pm
Boo hoo hoo hoo!!!!!!!!! Shut your crying a$$ turkey eating mouths up!!!!!!!!!!!! 28-23!!!!!!!
Gt4ever
October 26th, 2009
10:27 pm
Good Grief, What a bunch of SISSIES! GET OVER IT! Why would you even print this drivel! IT’s a JOKE!
Techfan78
October 26th, 2009
10:29 pm
Bottom line is there is gonna be missed calls in every game. I am sure that we have gotten away with some chop blocks over the course of the season but those that the whiny VT fans are posting are legal. Every week I can count at least three times that Derrick Morgan gets held when he is on the verge of a sack and it doesnt get called. I have always heard the rumors about VT fans making excuses but now it really comes out. We made halftime adjustments and took them to the woodshed, now they wanna cry and say we cheated. What a bunch of pu**y*. Get over it, it shouldnt have been as close as it was. What is really messed up is that everyone was talking about VT being a contender to play for the National Championship, then we beat them and still cant get any love from the BCS or anyone else for that matter. Its ok though, if the jackets just play one game at a time everyone will see how good they are. Just keep executing and playing smart and everything will take care of itself. Go Jackets
Brewer
October 26th, 2009
10:32 pm
Notice the GT blocker that ‘engages’ high is actually being held by the D-lineman as the D-lineman is being blocked low. The ‘high blocking’ O-lineman has his jersey being stretched out as he is trying to run past the VT player. If that’s a penalty, football is going to hell because all you’d have to do to get a free 15yd flag is grab the guy running by you when you get blocked low. I’m shocked VT is still crying 2 weeks later after the garbage they got away with last year.
KSEE
October 26th, 2009
10:32 pm
Is Cooper Taylor getting a redshirt a sure fire thing or could he possibly not receive it?
…i dunno how it works.
i sure hope he gets it tho…we miss his speed and talent out there
i hope the young man fully recovers!!
Buzz29
October 26th, 2009
10:39 pm
Thanks, Cutty. I enjoy your links, also.
GA Tech Insider
October 26th, 2009
10:41 pm
I’m not sure why this is an issue. Paul Johnson has already addressed this. If any of these complaints would have been legitimate, then the ACC would have notified him within the week after the game, as usual, and as it never occurred, contrary to Frank Beamer and the rest of the Hokie Nation’s claims, then the matter is moot.
It’s quite obvious that this is nothing more that Beamer attempting to set the Ref’s up for next season’s game up in Blacksburgh. He thinks that if he can pitch a big enough hissy fit now, it will influence the Ref’s next season.
This is an embarrassment to the ACC to have to deal with this type of crying to mommy.
TO
October 26th, 2009
10:44 pm
GTMike – Please know what you are talking about before you write anything. Defensive holding is impeding an eligible receiver on a pass route prior to the ball being thrown, not a defensive lineman grabbing an offensive lineman’s jersey. Other than hands to the face or grabbing the head, a defensive player can do just about anything to shed a blocker.
It’s not a wonder that other football fans call us nerds.
Gary
October 26th, 2009
10:58 pm
Total B.S. on the part of Virginia Tech….but it goes back to the fact that is a program that has never won anything….not a SINGLE national championship in over 100 years of football.
impartial
October 26th, 2009
11:03 pm
GT pretty much false starts on every offensive play. Line moves before the ball. They started calling it at UVA. Interested to see if they keep calling it.
Stinger
October 26th, 2009
11:11 pm
Poor babies, cry me a river. You bunch of cry babies. Last year the only reason you beat us was because the refs called a helmet to helmet against us when Taylor was running down the side lines. What a joke that was. Get over. There is a new sheriff in town. His name is Paul Johnson.
AtlantaNative62
October 26th, 2009
11:11 pm
BOGUS Gripes! On the chop block, the only contact made by the “high” man was 54 grabbing his jersey. Nothing illegal about that block. On the second one, I don’t even see anyone hitting below the waste. I see a GT player fall after making clean chest high contact but that was because he was thrown down by the VT player. So do we call blocks illegal if one player pushes a blocker down to his feet? No way. Have played wide receiver and had to block many a defender bigger than me, sometimes you just miss high and end up falling low. Of all schools that play agressive, right up to “the line” of the rules, I can’t believe VT accused GT of cheating on such easy to dispute plays. Sounds like nothing but sour grapes on their Turkey a$$es! Maybe they prefer cranberry sauce?
AtlantaNative62
October 26th, 2009
11:14 pm
Impartial, you need to look more clearly about the line moving before the ball. It does look that way (and it is on a couple that were called). But the other ones that look like we have players start early are players actually starting late from the snap. It throughs the whole “view” off and I had to watch several plays over and over again to actually see what was happening versus “what I was seeing”. Don’t know if they delay that guard on purpose, but he was the one I saw it occur on several times. The tackle is off with the snap but the guard is just a touch behind. Check it out.
Gary
October 26th, 2009
11:21 pm
Impartial-
LOL. An idiot UGA fan that knows nothing about football…LOL. You’re funny. I’ll try to explain you delusional a___hole…in option football it would appear the line moves before the ball because when the ball is snapped Josh Nesbitt’s first read is the DE, he can decide than to hit the dive or not….so the ball has been snapped..and the O-Line starts going….even though the QB waits another second….contrary to your popular beliefe the O-Line is just magically taking off 2 seconds before the snap. Idiot.
ArkyTech
October 26th, 2009
11:21 pm
Are we also going to post the 6 missed holding calls on VPI? This is so silly. So proud to be a Jacket, and embarrassed for the Hokies.
impartial
October 26th, 2009
11:26 pm
Atlnative62, I’ll have to give it a closer look. I’m sure every coach in the league would be jumping on it watching the film. It just looks different. Maybe because the line is running to block in front instead of dropping back to pass protect.
The Truth
October 26th, 2009
11:29 pm
Dissappointed but not surprised to hear Frank Beamer’s comments (after all, beamer also caved on Marcus Vick’s “suspension”).
C’mon, coach, teach Kam to be a man and take responsibility for taking it on the chin in the GT game…he simply got schooled.
Georgia Tech 2011 NC!!!!
October 26th, 2009
11:33 pm
Get Well Cooper! I have a feeling Tech will be playing more than 13 games this year….
AtlantaNative62
October 26th, 2009
11:37 pm
Doug, how about a more in-depth article about Coop that is not a jumble of other topics? He is a great kid and we Tech fans love him. I think the defense has clearly missed this young man and I think Morgan Burnette has missed him more than anyone. It has shown in his play. (Not a dig at Morgan, just saying that knowing a player has your back makes you a faster, agressive player. Coop, get well soon. If you do end up not playing this year, take the opportunity to get stronger for on the field AND in the classroom.
GTcoaches
October 26th, 2009
11:43 pm
Frank Beemer show some class and leadership. Your boy was flat out embarrassed. Teach him how to accept a beating gracefully, not whine alongside him.
Fhen
October 26th, 2009
11:44 pm
The Truth-
Frank Beamer is hardly going to teach anyone of his players to “be a man”…he didn’t with either Vick, or with El Stupido DB….
Andrew Sherwin (The Dude)
October 26th, 2009
11:52 pm
Wow… look how fast “impartial” back peddles…
Gary
October 26th, 2009
11:55 pm
That’s because “Impartial” is a moron. More than likely a dawgs fan…that wouldn’t no the difference in a veer formation and a freaking wing-t
mansup01
October 27th, 2009
12:11 am
The main issue is the incorrect use of the terms “chop block” and “crack back block”. It permeates not only comments by fans but also the announcer’s booth. Chop blocks occur regularly in the course of line play. Most of them are unintentional, but not always. Many fans and announcers alike incorrectly refer to low blocks as “chops”. Crack back blocks only apply to blocks made in the free blocking zone, toward the ball. That clearly did not apply to Chancellor, even if he had been blocked.
Metal Jacket
October 27th, 2009
12:48 am
SOUR GRAPES
Andrew Sherwin (The Dude)
October 27th, 2009
1:10 am
Sour grapes… make the best whine.
macrotech
October 27th, 2009
2:19 am
SCORE BOARD, SCORE BOARD, SCORE BOARD…….
Ron
October 27th, 2009
2:41 am
read it weep bumble bees. GT is going down to Wake. When that happens VT will be back in it. Your team got away with once; next time officials will look for dirty plays. read it and weep, I say and put your money on Wake:)
DardyJacket
October 27th, 2009
5:41 am
Ron’s a fairy. Same thing you said about FSU, VT and UVA you dope.
superDawg
October 27th, 2009
6:00 am
If any of you nerds have read my post in the past I have mentioned gt’s blocking tactics,specifically chop blocking it is part of your mo and should be addressed by the NCAA.I think it is part of your coaching schemes and needs to be stopped.
superDawg
October 27th, 2009
6:01 am
You may not like my post but it is true.
T-Bone
October 27th, 2009
7:10 am
SuperDawg, what makes you a supposed expert? I think if the NCAA thought that CPJ was flagrantly violating the rules they would address it. But they haven’t.
Besides, you’re a Dawg, for cryin’ out loud. Win a few games and then we’ll talk. A dawg talking to a Jacket about penalties? Hello pot, meet the kettle.
FARTONA mutt
October 27th, 2009
7:13 am
super mutt boy ………..I love it. You just keep your crying going all day long. Can’t beat them so keep on crying wah wah wah. Start lining up all your excuses so you will have them ready when you go down.
AMG
October 27th, 2009
7:41 am
“When thugs go wrong” new show in blacksburg, Va.
AMG
October 27th, 2009
7:44 am
It is priceless to see VT complain. I wish I could see the video of Chancellor complaining. I would have to add “All by myself” as the music in the back ground.
AMG
October 27th, 2009
7:47 am
superDawg? 6-6 is super?
WTH
October 27th, 2009
7:49 am
superDawg,
You are afraid the Dogs can’t stop PJ’s high school offense, so you want the NCAA’s help. That’s funny.
VT Whiners
October 27th, 2009
7:53 am
Get over it VT whiners. GT did nothing illegal…you got your butts kicked. By the way, VT’s has one of the most “Cheap Shot” defenses in college football….reminds me of Mickey Andrews and FSU.
Hey Superdawg, I can already see you building your excuses for the butt-whipping Tech is going to administer to the Dawgs in a few weeks.
snapshot
October 27th, 2009
7:54 am
They shot their mouth off before we played them and their shooting their mouth off again after they got beat.
reebok
October 27th, 2009
8:02 am
Too bad about Taylor, I hope he gets the medical redshirt. We need Burnett back, we are too thin in the secondary without him.
Maybe Virginia Tech is just upset because they were prepared to defend the Wishbone, just like Papa Bowden was…
RT in NC
October 27th, 2009
8:10 am
In any game, there are several missed calls and bad calls that go both ways. I LOVE IT when a team loses and all of a sudden the refs are “Only/not calling _____ on _____.” I know we are supposed to talk nice about other coaches and say we respect them etc., but Beamer reminds me of Duke’s coach K. Watch Beamer’s face during a game. He bitches about every call the refs make that does not go his way. And he willingly admits thugs and illiterates to bolster his program. His recent comments just lower my respect for him even more. I wish they could have found something blatent that wasn’t called, just so it would piss them off even more. The chop block shown was probably a chop block by definition, but isn’t the point of the rule that people can’t get hit high and low from different angles so they get knocked down. And shouldn’t someone at least get hit and not merely touched to make the call?
Wah, wah, wah.
RT in NC
October 27th, 2009
8:15 am
Did CPJ ever get fined for complaining on TV at halftime about the blown timing incident? I can’t remember which game now, but GT went out of bounds and got a first down and the clock never stopped just before halftime. The network interviewed him on the way to the locker room and he was pissed. I loved that he called them out in the heat of the moment, but figured he probably deserved to get fined.
Starring Peter Graves as Captain Clarence Over
October 27th, 2009
8:24 am
RT: That was the UNC game.
Saint Simons
October 27th, 2009
8:29 am
This article has UGA all over it, Doug your fired , go back to UGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stinger
October 27th, 2009
8:36 am
Cry babies, enter your comments here !!!
Curious
October 27th, 2009
8:39 am
Exactly how many D linemen have been injured by GT’s flagrant, illegal, dangerous chop-blocks this year?
GTMike
October 27th, 2009
8:43 am
TO – Check the rules. Here’s what the rule says:
Use of Hands or Arms by Defense
ARTICLE 4. a. Defensive players may use hands and arms to push, pull,
ward off or lift offensive players when attempting to reach the runner.
b. Defensive players may not use hands and arms to tackle, hold or
otherwise illegally obstruct an opponent other than a ball carrier.
Ezekiel
October 27th, 2009
9:02 am
The Chokies are a bunch of whiners. Like Coach Johnson said they didn’t say anything when they beat Tech last year. What we are hearing now is a whole bunch of sour grapes. They got trucker and will be going to a 2nd tier bowl. Enjoy, Chokies. Talk Tech football at: http://www.bbuzzoff.com
juvenal
October 27th, 2009
9:03 am
refs are like weather, injuries, bad bounces-part of it-didn’t whine about the bogus fowl on tyrod last year; about the hold on the thuggies last td this year, so it’s funny to hear them complain about how mean we were to them-maybe they should call dfacs about child abuse!kam’s still hurtin’ ’bout all the pub he got on espn, maybe he cryin’ cuz he lost his lunch pail(did it have spongebob on it?)PJ has been running this blocking scheme for decades, curious, but now it’s the self-presumed bigboys having to stop it-don’t worry, thuggies, the refs will have plenty of practice seeing this O–& our players will continue to get better executing it, so maybe you won’t gripe about the refs next year-maybe you can come up with a conspiracy theory? in the meantime, is #5 still hangin’ on the wall of your coop?
Golden Hand
October 27th, 2009
9:04 am
The first one is an illegal chop block, though likely unintentional. Looks like a blown assignment by the right guard Howard (who comes off the illegal block combo with the center’s low block and goes to get the guy he was supposed to block in the first place), and a missed call by the refs.
The crackback block is so legal it should be used in training videos. Melton hits Chancellor in the mouth, not below the waist.
@Curious: None.
T.O.S.S.
October 27th, 2009
9:05 am
I for one hope that GT gets a shot at the NC this year… it will be great to have the second best program in Georgia step up for a change and show the country what the 3rd or 4th best conference can do.
Tech82
October 27th, 2009
9:07 am
GTMike – You beat me to the punch. I was going to post the same thing to TO. Defensive holding is NOT limited to eligible receivers.
superDawg – You’re right. Cut blocking is part of the scheme the Tech coaches teach. That’s because in the the NCAA cut blocks are LEGAL. Chop blocks are illegal and involve two players engaging the same defender (one high and one low). We don’t coach chop blocking because to do so would result in a plethora of 15 yard, drive killing, penalties.
Go back to the UGA blog and enjoy your .500 season.
GO JACKETS! THWG!
GT FAN PA
October 27th, 2009
9:22 am
You often wonder when a coach of Beamer’s status makes comments like this what happens in the next games? Goes back some coaches can ride REF’s like a cheap suite and the next thing you know there comes the flags-Kiffen made a valied point about UT being one of the least penalized teams but yet had 10 to bama’s one- goes back to who you are. Just a thought? It will show in the upcoming games if Tech starts getting these calls against them! Go Jackets-Beat VANDY!!!
VegasGT
October 27th, 2009
9:31 am
Thanks GTMike, I was going to suggest that TO check the rules before he spouts off. I checked with a friend of mine who is actually a college ref. He just about quoted the rules verbatim to what you posted.
SuperHumper – You might want to get some perspective as well. There was a big issue about blocking TECHniques last year and most of the ACC Refs and Coaches had to refresh themselves on what is really right and wrong. The ACC actually asked PJ to give the refs a clinic/tlk about blocking techniques, cut vs chop in particular. The league is quite a bit further ahead of you than you may like to think. It appears that VT and Beamer may be as well.
Chancellor would be better served by learning from his mistakes than whining about them. He has many opportunities to learn from this, not only with blocking techniques, but also with making stupid, opponent-motivating pre-season comments.
Oh well, GT needs to put everything in the past behind them and concentrate on Vandy. Tech is 0-0 this week. Actually, I would like for them to play like they are 0-1.
NYJacket
October 27th, 2009
9:35 am
Too much energy spent on VT’s complaint. Start focusing on the rest of the season.
See you in Tampa and Miami.
Fightin Gobbler
October 27th, 2009
10:08 am
Didn’t read all the posts in the thread so I assume this has already been mentioned but just in case it hasn’t… Beamer described the wrong play re: the block on Chancellor. It wasn’t the last TD run but the play that set up the next to last TD run. In it, your blocker comes from well outside the tackle box and dives directly for Kam’s knees, from the side. It is an absolutely clear as day illegal block. If you can watch that video and be proud of your team for playing that way, you aren’t the type of fans I always thought you were.
GT used to be my second favorite team but so long as Paul Johnson embraces cheap shots that could seriously injure players as part his offense I’ll be rooting against GT whenever you guys are playing.
Can’t wait to see you guys in Blacksburg next year. I can promise you that game is already circled on the calendar…
RAMBLE ON!!!
October 27th, 2009
10:16 am
Superdawg, you are in a room of your superiors, now run along little brother.
RAMBLE ON!!!
October 27th, 2009
10:19 am
Fightin Gobbler, keep crying loser.
The only reason you won last year was due to a bogus helmet to helment call.
You were lucky to keep it close this year, the beat down was worse than the score.
Run along cry baby. You too are in a room of your superiors.
misterwax
October 27th, 2009
10:20 am
yes, it is nothing more than sour grapes…..and it speaks of a very cozy deal between ESPN’s beat writer, Heather Dinich and VT/Beamer…don’t really know why but she has been loving VT all season and has just now begun to GT some proper respect….it’s uncanny when you read it…..She has more praise for Duke than for GT…..it also helps to continue the promote the notion that the ACC is a weaker conference than most….and they use last yera’s bowl records as agood example….so this is relevant but things are changing this year for GT’s adavantage and they don’t want to write about it…
GT is a very conservative and pragmatic school as are most of it’s graduates and supporters….they are not East Coast / DC liberals like most folks in the media…..are you listening, J*ff Sch*ltz? They ignore the facts and propmote their own agenda all the time…and that’s what we must expect.
Tech82
October 27th, 2009
10:22 am
Fightin Gobbler – Are you suggesting that there is a conspiracy among the ACC officials to allow Tech (the REAL Tech) to block illegally? Your psot says “It is an absolutely clear as day illegal block” so the only logical inference is that the officials are deliberately allowing this to happen.
First, let me say that I agree that the officials are intentially allowing these blocks. Of course, that’s because they’re LEGAL.
Secondly, take your whining about the officials to the SEC where it belongs. The real men in the ACC know better than to whine when we lose. Oh, and one other thing – I would suggest you mark next year’s game on the calendar with an “L”.
techfan
October 27th, 2009
10:23 am
Coop, get bigger, stronger, faster, and go out there and have some fun!!!! We wish you all the best!! Now it’s time to get in the woods and on the water!
Trade School Junkie
October 27th, 2009
10:26 am
VT has traded in the “Lunch Pail” for a “Man-Purse.”
Lost my repsect for Beamer.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 27th, 2009
10:31 am
Has the ACC head of officiating weighed in on this one yet? He’s the one who declared after the Clemson game that the “deceptive substitution” used on the fake field goal was illegal. Hell, I thought one of the points of the game of football WAS to DECEIVE in some manner the other team. Nesbitt certainly does a lot of deceiving out there running the TO, and it works pretty damn consistently I saw a couple of weeks ago that some team in the west had used it in a game, and they were also criticized later by that conference’s head of officials, LSU tried to used it against UGAG but UGAG saw it coming, and Clemson used it against Miami last week, although Spiller dropped the stupid pass. I haven’t heard any official complaints about either of those plays, although perhaps it’s because in those two cases, they failed. However, I think it’s obvious that there are a lot of officials in the game of football today who don’t know s**t. And it looks like Beamer doesn’t either.
Bill Alexander
October 27th, 2009
10:31 am
Fightin Gobbler, calm down, no GT fan wants to see their team win by illegal blocking. VT did the right thing by sending the league game tape and yes, if the league says there were 4 illegal blocks not called, I believe them. I am sure the refs will be looking extra hard for this infraction and things will correct themselves though flags and proper coaching.
What really was unfair was the way ESPN singled out Kam Chancellor for being out of position on a few plays. We all know the best player on the field in any game will make a few mistakes by being out of position. I just thought they pulled his comment from the summer about knowing where the ball was going on GT’s offense and rubbed his nose in it by showing some less than expected play on Kam’s part (i.e. eyes to the left, ball going right). Good luck the rest of the way.
BTW, I am certain Paul Jonhson has the VT game next year already circled as well.
TRUTH
October 27th, 2009
10:32 am
Watch the flags fly tech mites.
Supersize that order, mutt
October 27th, 2009
10:37 am
If you want to gain a little more insight as to why Beamer and Kam Chancellor. are bitching and whining, check out the following link from scout.com on “The Stages of Triple Option.” Decide for yourself which stage Beamer and Chancellor are in….also which stage the mutts are in, etc, etc
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=140&f=2938&t=5009840
mtraininjax
October 27th, 2009
10:43 am
There is no crying in football either. Beamer, I just lost respect for you as a coach. Be a man, you lost, move on. Or better yet, in the Summer ACC Football meetings, bring this back up and cry further about how Tech whupped your butts on national tv. Sore loser is all I have to say.
BigTimeTECHFan
October 27th, 2009
10:50 am
Fightin Gobbler – Should be fun, I hope Chancellor is still starting, He’s got the Ga Tech offence figued out, can read plays before they start and Tech still runs 60 years right by him.
old gold engineer
October 27th, 2009
10:53 am
Bill Alexander, thank you for bringing some rational thought into this discussion. Well said.
Fightin Gobbler
October 27th, 2009
11:05 am
Okay GT fans, here’s what Beamer & Co. are talking about. Again, Beamer described the wrong play, it wasn’t the last TD by Nesbitt (which was a great play and very well executed) it was the play that set up the next to last TD. I found a GT highlight video (pretty well done actually) that I’m sure you guys will enjoy. The play in question happens at 2:56 and your blocker (#24) dives into Chancellor’s knees from the side (and coming from outside in). This is an illegal block, plain and simple. The reason its illegal is that a guy could really get hurt (just like a horse collar tackle or a facemask) and the fact that GT apparently coaches this (#24 could just have easily engaged Chancellor up high but instead dove at his knees) is pretty daggone cheap IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLzYtczNfKY
Enjoy your biggest win in a couple of decades, try not to choke against Wake or Duke.
Phil
October 27th, 2009
11:05 am
You can make an argument either way on the first one.
a) The guard runs up the field and makes no motion at all towards the DE, it is the DE who touches the guard while trying to run past him, and the tackle hits, maybe even clips, the DE below the waist, but is inside the blocking zone – Legal block.
b) The guard touches the DE with his shoulder, which under 3.1.a constitutes a block and then his immediately hit below the waist by the tackle. Illegal Chop Block.
On the touchdown, Tyler Melton hits Kam Chancellor above the waist, nearly head on; I don’t know what he could possibly think is illegal about that.
Cuzzin Vinnie
October 27th, 2009
11:09 am
superDawg – you ought to be reported to yo mamma for raising a dumbazz whining crybaby.
TechMD
October 27th, 2009
11:16 am
Wow, I used to respect VT and Beamer but this is just sour grapes and shouldn’t even be a story. Man up VT!
juvenal
October 27th, 2009
11:16 am
again, by next year Tech will have more experience(PJ has said we still don’t block this right, but getting better) thr refs will have seen more of our O…to accuse Tech of purposely cheating running a 20 year old offense is ludicrous, how come nobody else has?(other than crackpot daug fans, that is…)
Fightin Gobbler
October 27th, 2009
11:24 am
Phil – Beamer screwed up and identified the wrong play. See the highlight video I posted and tell me what’s legal about the block at 2:56.
Tech82
October 27th, 2009
11:36 am
Fightin Gobbler @ 11:05 writes “and the fact that GT apparently coaches this (#24 could just have easily engaged Chancellor up high but instead dove at his knees) is pretty daggone cheap IMO”
I agree that the block you pointed out appears to be illegal. The refs missed it. Get over it. The problem I have is with your assertion that Tech coaches are instructing players to engage in illegal techniques. Just because a player does something on the field doesn’t mean it was coached. Using your logic, I guess we can assume that Frank Beamer “coached” Marcus Vick to stomp on a player when he was lying on the turf looking the other way.
The Truth
October 27th, 2009
11:39 am
Can’t wait to see who carries VT’s man purse on this field this week…Go get ‘em, Frank!
RAMBLE ON!!!
October 27th, 2009
11:40 am
You mean some of you respected Beamer?
Ever heard of Marcus Vick, Mike Vick, Deanglo Hall.