You be the judge

Since there has been much ado about the blocks made by Georgia Tech against Virginia Tech in their game two weeks ago, I thought I’d let you see a couple of clips that a Hokies fan posted on youtube.com
The first:
Chop block?

As you can see, at first it appears that the Virginia Tech defensive lineman is being chop blocked, an illegal block in which one player engages a defender high while another defender engages him low.
But, if you watch closely, Georgia Tech’s guard actually doesn’t engage the defender, he simply runs by and he two players briefly collide. It is then that Georgia Tech’s tackle goes low and hits him. It’s a fine line, but it is the line.
I have no idea if I’m correct, but that’s what it looks like to me.

The second:
Crackback block?

Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer said this was one of several plays in which safety Kam Chancellor was illegally blocked.
I’m sorry, but I don’t see it. Chancellor is cleanly blocked.
So, there are likely other plays, but at least in these two examples I don’t see it.
There had to have been some, otherwise the ACC wouldn’t have told Beamer that there were four missed blocks.
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In other news, Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson said that Cooper Taylor likely won’t play again this season. He is going to apply to the NCAA for a medical redshirt.
Julian Burnett may return this week, however.

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199 comments Add your comment

TechDan

October 26th, 2009
9:20 pm

First!

And it’s “ado,” not “to do.”

Go Jackets

October 26th, 2009
9:23 pm

Virginia Tech shouldn’t be calling us dirty when they’ve had players like Marcus Vick on the team.

hedgepruner

October 26th, 2009
9:25 pm

Beamer didnt complain about any blocks last year when the turkeys “I mean gobblers”,won at home , all of a sudden when they get thier arses kicked they want to play that card, get over it VT , Georgia Tech was just the better team that night !!! THWG !!!!

Tim

October 26th, 2009
9:30 pm

Stop crying turkeys! We won fair and square…not like last year when the refs gave you the game on the bogus helmut to helmut call.

Born2Buzz

October 26th, 2009
9:32 pm

The chop block was dicey and kind of cheap. I didn’t notice it at first because it was on the back end of the play.
The crack back was a clean block .

Too bad about Cooper. Hope he can come back next year.

OMG

October 26th, 2009
9:37 pm

I’m glad the story just came out how VT Coach Beamer and Kam Chancellor are crying that they were chopped blocked. It gives me another opportunity to mock these back wood inbreds and first losers by the way .. too bad too sad. Coach Paul Johnson has already addressed the ACC officials last summer in a conference about what a chop block really is and what isn’t. You know keep up the boo hooing and you might not even be the first losers of coastal. Duke might take your place. Now go back to tending your sheep or blanking your sheep and shut up LOSERS

GTMike

October 26th, 2009
9:39 pm

In the first case, the VT player might have avoided the block had he not been preoccupied with grabbing the GT guard’s jersey as he ran by. That’s called defensive holding.

In the second case, the block is clearly not below the waist and is legal.

I think VT players just don’t like being blocked.

Alabama Jack

October 26th, 2009
9:43 pm

BEAT VANDY and best to Cooper Taylor. He is a warrior.

Voice of Reason

October 26th, 2009
9:44 pm

There are always missed calls on blocks. I saw at least 5 “illegal” holds on the VT OL, and a late hit OOB, but you don’t see our coach crying in the media about it. Boooo, hooooo, hoooo. The VT fans, coach’s and players are really starting to look like clowns. I guess with chucky the chest gone, someone had to take his place.

Blue Pants

October 26th, 2009
9:46 pm

You know you’re in Hell when the only football on is UGA vs. VA Tech. What a sickening image.

cremins

October 26th, 2009
9:48 pm

Block 1: watch the center and guard to his right. Definately a high-low. The block at the top of the screen is legal (and the one everyone, Doug included seems to be looking at because the defender flops like a limp fish).

StraightJacket

October 26th, 2009
9:49 pm

Actually, I think they’re BOTH illegal.

In flag football.

VPI&SU whining in THESE cases reminds me of the classic dual matchup: They bought a knife to a gunfight.

-SJ

Tallahassee Jacket

October 26th, 2009
9:52 pm

Seriously Frank? Below the waist? You’re joking, right?

Freezekalo7

October 26th, 2009
9:54 pm

So VT is complaining and Kam Chancellor is upset because ESPN called him out on our halftime ajustment. Sounds like his issue is with ESPN and not GT and CPJ. This is stupid. He is just mad cause he looked like an idiot on the field & ESPN. Thus causing him to sound foolish now… Grow up Kam…

Freeze

Buzz29

October 26th, 2009
9:54 pm

Best wishes to Coop. Sour grapes from Beamer. BTW, what the hell is wrong with Beamer’s face?

George P

October 26th, 2009
9:58 pm

In the first clip, if you look just above the center, then, yes, he blocked him in the back of the legs, and that should have been called.

In the second clip it’s all good, although on Nesbitt’s first touchdown it looks as if Chancellor grabs Anthony Allen’s facemask. You can see that one clearer in the ESPN video that identifies Chancellor.

On the last touchdown Chancellor isn’t even knocked down. The blocker just stands in his way.

VT = Bunch Of Whiners

October 26th, 2009
10:15 pm

I have long been a fan of Frank Beamer and had the utmost respect for him. However, this complaint about illegal blocks by Georgia Tech not being called is nothing but childish. Have you ever seen a player and coaches wait over a week then complain to their local newspaper about calls that were not made? On the block on Kam “Kan’t Tackle” Chancellor during Nesbitt’s last touchdown run – that was nothing but a good block (it certainly was not below the waist). Did Paul Johnson or other coaches or players complain to the local newspaper about the holding calls that were not called against Virginia Tech offensive linemen (against Derrick Morgan several times)? No, they did not. VT coaches and players are acting like a bunch of whiners. Come on, VT, man up!

Cuttysark

October 26th, 2009
10:19 pm

Doug, thanks for the films. They are not violations. Too bad Kam and the Hokies cann’t just move on and accept the loss. Says a lot about their program. Poor sports!

Go to http://isportsweb.com for articles on Kam Chancellor and his inability to back up his bravado. Sorry to hear about Cooper Taylor. But Logan Walls had a similar cardiac procedure and after sitting out a year, is doing just fine as a defensive tackle. Go Tech

JJacket

October 26th, 2009
10:19 pm

The drive we had the supposed “chop block” on didn’t even lead to a score.

So they are pointing out a drive that led to “0″ points as a reason they lost the game?

Pathetic.

TDone

October 26th, 2009
10:20 pm

I guess if I were “0″ for Atlanta in 2009, I would be complaining too.

Hokie, Hokie, Hokie Chik-fil-a, anyone?

Go Jackets!!!

macrotech

October 26th, 2009
10:21 pm

Did vt use tape to mark a spot on the field for field goals?!

Cuttysark

October 26th, 2009
10:21 pm

To Buzz29, Coach Beamer was burned as a kid.

Georgia Tech 2011 NC!!!!

October 26th, 2009
10:23 pm

Boo hoo hoo hoo!!!!!!!!! Shut your crying a$$ turkey eating mouths up!!!!!!!!!!!! 28-23!!!!!!!

Gt4ever

October 26th, 2009
10:27 pm

Good Grief, What a bunch of SISSIES! GET OVER IT! Why would you even print this drivel! IT’s a JOKE!

Techfan78

October 26th, 2009
10:29 pm

Bottom line is there is gonna be missed calls in every game. I am sure that we have gotten away with some chop blocks over the course of the season but those that the whiny VT fans are posting are legal. Every week I can count at least three times that Derrick Morgan gets held when he is on the verge of a sack and it doesnt get called. I have always heard the rumors about VT fans making excuses but now it really comes out. We made halftime adjustments and took them to the woodshed, now they wanna cry and say we cheated. What a bunch of pu**y*. Get over it, it shouldnt have been as close as it was. What is really messed up is that everyone was talking about VT being a contender to play for the National Championship, then we beat them and still cant get any love from the BCS or anyone else for that matter. Its ok though, if the jackets just play one game at a time everyone will see how good they are. Just keep executing and playing smart and everything will take care of itself. Go Jackets

Brewer

October 26th, 2009
10:32 pm

Notice the GT blocker that ‘engages’ high is actually being held by the D-lineman as the D-lineman is being blocked low. The ‘high blocking’ O-lineman has his jersey being stretched out as he is trying to run past the VT player. If that’s a penalty, football is going to hell because all you’d have to do to get a free 15yd flag is grab the guy running by you when you get blocked low. I’m shocked VT is still crying 2 weeks later after the garbage they got away with last year.

KSEE

October 26th, 2009
10:32 pm

Is Cooper Taylor getting a redshirt a sure fire thing or could he possibly not receive it?
…i dunno how it works.
i sure hope he gets it tho…we miss his speed and talent out there
i hope the young man fully recovers!!

Buzz29

October 26th, 2009
10:39 pm

Thanks, Cutty. I enjoy your links, also.

GA Tech Insider

October 26th, 2009
10:41 pm

I’m not sure why this is an issue. Paul Johnson has already addressed this. If any of these complaints would have been legitimate, then the ACC would have notified him within the week after the game, as usual, and as it never occurred, contrary to Frank Beamer and the rest of the Hokie Nation’s claims, then the matter is moot.

It’s quite obvious that this is nothing more that Beamer attempting to set the Ref’s up for next season’s game up in Blacksburgh. He thinks that if he can pitch a big enough hissy fit now, it will influence the Ref’s next season.

This is an embarrassment to the ACC to have to deal with this type of crying to mommy.

TO

October 26th, 2009
10:44 pm

GTMike – Please know what you are talking about before you write anything. Defensive holding is impeding an eligible receiver on a pass route prior to the ball being thrown, not a defensive lineman grabbing an offensive lineman’s jersey. Other than hands to the face or grabbing the head, a defensive player can do just about anything to shed a blocker.

It’s not a wonder that other football fans call us nerds.

Gary

October 26th, 2009
10:58 pm

Total B.S. on the part of Virginia Tech….but it goes back to the fact that is a program that has never won anything….not a SINGLE national championship in over 100 years of football.

impartial

October 26th, 2009
11:03 pm

GT pretty much false starts on every offensive play. Line moves before the ball. They started calling it at UVA. Interested to see if they keep calling it.

Stinger

October 26th, 2009
11:11 pm

Poor babies, cry me a river. You bunch of cry babies. Last year the only reason you beat us was because the refs called a helmet to helmet against us when Taylor was running down the side lines. What a joke that was. Get over. There is a new sheriff in town. His name is Paul Johnson.

AtlantaNative62

October 26th, 2009
11:11 pm

BOGUS Gripes! On the chop block, the only contact made by the “high” man was 54 grabbing his jersey. Nothing illegal about that block. On the second one, I don’t even see anyone hitting below the waste. I see a GT player fall after making clean chest high contact but that was because he was thrown down by the VT player. So do we call blocks illegal if one player pushes a blocker down to his feet? No way. Have played wide receiver and had to block many a defender bigger than me, sometimes you just miss high and end up falling low. Of all schools that play agressive, right up to “the line” of the rules, I can’t believe VT accused GT of cheating on such easy to dispute plays. Sounds like nothing but sour grapes on their Turkey a$$es! Maybe they prefer cranberry sauce?

AtlantaNative62

October 26th, 2009
11:14 pm

Impartial, you need to look more clearly about the line moving before the ball. It does look that way (and it is on a couple that were called). But the other ones that look like we have players start early are players actually starting late from the snap. It throughs the whole “view” off and I had to watch several plays over and over again to actually see what was happening versus “what I was seeing”. Don’t know if they delay that guard on purpose, but he was the one I saw it occur on several times. The tackle is off with the snap but the guard is just a touch behind. Check it out.

Gary

October 26th, 2009
11:21 pm

Impartial-

LOL. An idiot UGA fan that knows nothing about football…LOL. You’re funny. I’ll try to explain you delusional a___hole…in option football it would appear the line moves before the ball because when the ball is snapped Josh Nesbitt’s first read is the DE, he can decide than to hit the dive or not….so the ball has been snapped..and the O-Line starts going….even though the QB waits another second….contrary to your popular beliefe the O-Line is just magically taking off 2 seconds before the snap. Idiot.

ArkyTech

October 26th, 2009
11:21 pm

Are we also going to post the 6 missed holding calls on VPI? This is so silly. So proud to be a Jacket, and embarrassed for the Hokies.

impartial

October 26th, 2009
11:26 pm

Atlnative62, I’ll have to give it a closer look. I’m sure every coach in the league would be jumping on it watching the film. It just looks different. Maybe because the line is running to block in front instead of dropping back to pass protect.

The Truth

October 26th, 2009
11:29 pm

Dissappointed but not surprised to hear Frank Beamer’s comments (after all, beamer also caved on Marcus Vick’s “suspension”).

C’mon, coach, teach Kam to be a man and take responsibility for taking it on the chin in the GT game…he simply got schooled.

Georgia Tech 2011 NC!!!!

October 26th, 2009
11:33 pm

Get Well Cooper! I have a feeling Tech will be playing more than 13 games this year….

AtlantaNative62

October 26th, 2009
11:37 pm

Doug, how about a more in-depth article about Coop that is not a jumble of other topics? He is a great kid and we Tech fans love him. I think the defense has clearly missed this young man and I think Morgan Burnette has missed him more than anyone. It has shown in his play. (Not a dig at Morgan, just saying that knowing a player has your back makes you a faster, agressive player. Coop, get well soon. If you do end up not playing this year, take the opportunity to get stronger for on the field AND in the classroom.

GTcoaches

October 26th, 2009
11:43 pm

Frank Beemer show some class and leadership. Your boy was flat out embarrassed. Teach him how to accept a beating gracefully, not whine alongside him.

Fhen

October 26th, 2009
11:44 pm

The Truth-

Frank Beamer is hardly going to teach anyone of his players to “be a man”…he didn’t with either Vick, or with El Stupido DB….

Andrew Sherwin (The Dude)

October 26th, 2009
11:52 pm

Wow… look how fast “impartial” back peddles…

Gary

October 26th, 2009
11:55 pm

That’s because “Impartial” is a moron. More than likely a dawgs fan…that wouldn’t no the difference in a veer formation and a freaking wing-t

mansup01

October 27th, 2009
12:11 am

The main issue is the incorrect use of the terms “chop block” and “crack back block”. It permeates not only comments by fans but also the announcer’s booth. Chop blocks occur regularly in the course of line play. Most of them are unintentional, but not always. Many fans and announcers alike incorrectly refer to low blocks as “chops”. Crack back blocks only apply to blocks made in the free blocking zone, toward the ball. That clearly did not apply to Chancellor, even if he had been blocked.

Metal Jacket

October 27th, 2009
12:48 am

Andrew Sherwin (The Dude)

October 27th, 2009
1:10 am

Sour grapes… make the best whine.

macrotech

October 27th, 2009
2:19 am

SCORE BOARD, SCORE BOARD, SCORE BOARD…….

Ron

October 27th, 2009
2:41 am

read it weep bumble bees. GT is going down to Wake. When that happens VT will be back in it. Your team got away with once; next time officials will look for dirty plays. read it and weep, I say and put your money on Wake:)