The calm before the buzz

Alright, you ramblin wrecks.

Four days until the players report on Sunday, and practice begins on Monday.

This will be the last blog until after practice on Monday. Going to try and spend some time with the wife and kids before the 10-month college sports season begins and I become scarce around the old household.

So, I’m apologizing now (now that it’ll matter to some), but this blog will be short.

First, no updates on Kyle Jackson yet. He did go to the doctor in Charlotte, but I haven’t been able to find out anything.

Other than that, the team is healthy heading into camp.

There was a lot of talk at the ACC football kickoff earlier this week about the lack of respect the ACC gets nationally. The prevailing reason seems to be because the ACC hasn’t had a team play for the national championship since 2000. And the league’s record in BCS games since then isn’t to be envied.

Throw in that FSU and Miami just aren’t the teams they once were, and there’s no reason to believe that they are going to ascend anytime soon to that once-certain place, it’s a recipe for yawns.

Virginia Tech has assumed the ACC throne, but they are not a team that will challenge for a national championship in the near future. The Hokies recruit well, but they just don’t bring in the consistent caliber of recruits that will help them breakthrough the phalanx of the usual suspects who sit atop college football right now. That’s not a criticism of Virginia Tech. What Frank Beamer and Bud Foster have done should be a model for any college football team looking to build itself into a quality program. And I’m not saying that off the top of my head. Before I moved back to Atlanta I was the sports editor of a paper in Virginia that covered the Hokies.

So, what’s the point of this little speech?

The point is this could be Georgia Tech’s time, and I don’t see why it can’t happen now.

The state has more than enough talent to supply two I-A programs, not to mention the poaching that goes on from other schools in the SEC and ACC, as well as the myriad quality I-AA programs in the state and south.

Georgia Tech has a coach and system that is not a gimmick. It has worked everywhere he’s been, and is based on the fundamentals of football: running the ball, and stopping the run. If you can run, they can’t score. And vice versa.

Plus, Atlanta is one of the largest metro markets in the country. Tech starts winning, it’ll start getting attention nationally. And attention, as we all know, is what puts teams high in the preseason polls and gives them a shot at starting off well in the BCS rankings. It’s not always fair, but that’s the way it is.

Of course, Tech does have the academic requirements that can put it at a competitive disadvantage in recruiting. But, because Johnson doesn’t always recruit the same type of players that other coaches recruit, that hurdle isn’t as big as it may sometimes seem to be. And, to be honest, it’s an extremely large pool of players to recruit from, and you can only sign 20-30 at a time (40 if you are Alabama or UNC).

So, anyway I guess what I’m trying to say is I’ve got a feeling this could be a very interesting year on the Flats, and I look forward to telling the stories. 

So, why do you think the ACC hasn’t gotten the respect of the SEC or Big 12 the past few years? Should the ACC be considered the equal of the Big 10? Better than the Big East? Is this Georgia Tech’s time? Let me hear from you.

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German Jacket

July 29th, 2009
10:30 pm

Right on the money, Doug. CPJ will make it happen at Tech. They are the team to take the ACC to new levels of respect. Look out little doggies.


July 29th, 2009
10:32 pm

hahahahahahahahah!hahahahahahahah!45-42 thats all you have.saint simons you sir will be an evaporation Nov.28′2009.


July 29th, 2009
10:34 pm

you may be right, this could be a year that tech goes after big stuff and gets it however as much as we love what cpj has done in his 1st yr here it was only 1 season.
good thing about cpj is he is smart enuff to leave the option when it’s not working so we will see alot more straight up football when its needed.(l had to say needed because l can’t spell necessary).
bill lewis had success at E carolina and he turned out to be the absolute worse coach we ever had but l think cpj will do good but we need to be carefull and not expect to much all of a sudden


July 29th, 2009
10:40 pm

scott make up your mind.


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10:55 pm



July 29th, 2009
10:56 pm

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July 29th, 2009
11:05 pm

Two games that we absolutely MUST come to play at are at Miami and at FSU. Miami will be out for blood, and their talented roster will slip up on us if we dont watch it. Doak is a tough place to play, and if Ponder comes out firing this season, it will test our D. I think we should come out on top against VT. They are a bit overrated in my opinion. It will be the biggest game of the year for tech because it will define the coastal division and its at bobby dodd. Tech should pull it out. And i think tech will handle UNC after what happened last year. Clemson will be no prob, its the annual thursday night game in atlanta, tech will come out firing. Then of course the UGA game. I dont think UGA’s offense will be very effective this year and they dont have a bye week before the game like they did last year, so paul johnson’s Offense should take care of them. Its going to be a great season. I know im shooting for the stars, but if we play our cards right, an undefeated season is definately not out of the question. GO JACKETS!


July 29th, 2009
11:32 pm

Any updates on Roddy Jones? You said that other than Kyle Jackson the team would be going in to two-a-days healthy?

Hayseed Dixie

July 29th, 2009
11:49 pm

If the Jackets get a little luck (always needed in a championship season), they could go undefeated.

It’s going to be a *great* season on the flats, and we’re only just beginning. Senior Dwyer and Nesbitt, anyone?

Oh, and UGA fans: St. Richt has jumped the shark. You know it, we know it: it’s over.


July 29th, 2009
11:52 pm

Doug, there was an AJC article Q&A article yesterday with Coach Johnson & Coach Richt which was apparently done at the ASC luncheon. SURELY, SOME REPORTER Asked the question about the Elephant in the Room … that is the Impact of the ASC / Chick-fil-a Kickoff Game on both GT & Ugag.

I believe BOTH Johnson & Richt have expressed that it “doesn’t help” and can only hurt both state programs, and OBVIOUSLY, the issue is STILL with us!

Did NOBODY raise the issue at the ASC Luncheon this week with CPJ and CMR in attendance with ASC brass????


GT Gators

July 30th, 2009
12:25 am

So, why do you think the ACC hasn’t gotten the respect of the SEC or Big 12 the past few years?

The reason is that the Big 12 is A Top heavy conference the last couple of years with Texas and Oklahoma and maybe Ok State and Texas Tech. They also had some really good QB’s in the conference Daniels, McCoy, Bradford, Harrell and the kid from Kansas were all pretty good QB’s. But the rest of the conference is average or below…..The SEC has had the last 3 NC coming from LSU and Florida. Alabama is a hot topic and UGA has had some good seasons. But Auburn, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky and South Carolina are no better or no worse than almost everyteam in the ACC. Then you have the traditional bottom feeders of Miss State and Vandy(a little better recently) and Ole Miss had a couple of games that they showed up for last year and had the best year since Eli left for the NYG. The ACC sent 10 of 12 to bowl games last year and the ACC has competitive balance from top to bottom. The same cannot be said of the SEC or Big 12.

Should the ACC be considered the equal of the Big 10?

Please……The Little 10 has OSU and who else??? Michigan? They are in transition. MSU? They consistantly fall on thier faces in the big games on thier schedule. PSU? Tradition and coach maybe but cannot compete on the big stage outside the conference. Wisconsin? Illinois? Indiana? Nortwestern? Purdue? Iowa? Minnesota? What team would be afraid to schedule any of these teams at thier house or even in a home and home schedule? No one in the ACC, Big East, Pac 10, Big 12, or SEC would be scared of any of these teams and most would have losing records in these conferences except maybe OSU and they would be a 2nd tier team in the SEC or ACC.

Better than the Big East?

Who do they have that is an imposing force? Louisville…Not the past 2 seasons. WVU…Maybe if CRR was still ther with Pat White. Rutgers…Ok at best. UConn…Good team and good coach but not a powerhouse. Cinncinati…VT beat them on a nuetral field at the Orange Bowl. Syracuse…No Comment. Pitt and South Florida may be the best 2 here and they don’t make teams shake in thier shoes. So I don’t think so.

Is this Georgia Tech’s time?

Don’t Know???? The games are played on the field. To quote a UGA fan from Bradleys blog “If we didnt have injuries, committed TO, played in the rain, and had a different DC we would have beat that HS Gimmick Offence that GT runs”. If we have less TO and better ST play, open up the passing game and our LB and DB show up and the OL and DL mature then it is possible. There are a few pontential letdown games there and if we have the TO that we had at VT and UNC then we will lose. If the ST play like they did against LSU then we will lose. If the opposing teams Offence can score like UGA did last year and play a little defense and tackle then we will lose. If we show up lame like we did at Gardner-Webb, UVA and LSU then we will lose. Lot’s of “IF’S” but until “Toe meets Leather” We just don’t Know!!!!!! And UGA fans talk all you want. Your opinion is welcomed but not meaningful unless you put your money where your opinion is….well that could be one of two places….Your Mouth or you know what opinions are….They are like A..Holes everyone has one.

chris o bomb

July 30th, 2009
12:28 am

is it me or is saint simon’s a legend for mr. sec’s blogs? he got ya. thwg


July 30th, 2009
12:58 am

Scott- I dont think CPJ will ever “leave” the option. I mean, sure, if teams want to take away the actual option plays (like the triple option or fullback option) then im sure he will adapt and run more passing plays and hand-off’s to the b-back. The offense is built to do a lot more things than just option plays. A lot of it we havent seen, and when I say that, we havent seen a lot of plays that it is capable of producing. If the current plays CPJ has are ever proven ineffective, he will just come up with variations. But im pretty sure he will stick with the spread option for the duration of his coaching career.

chris o bomb

July 30th, 2009
1:08 am

answering your questions doug(after a late snack but will still have a sexy, football ready lady with me on the 5th… see below)

the sec is #1 without a doubt. i’ll be at my couch to sports bars(2-3) to my couch then bed(lsu vs. the worst pac ten team) for 14 plus hours watching great football on sept. 5th!

the big 12 should be in 2nd given three top heavy teams(watch texas cus mr. sec says you’ll lose to vandy… lol– reasons he’ll never be mr. cfb like that… but is insightful for the sec)

the acc is third or will be second depending on the top heavy team(s). just from last season, this great bball conference had a better regular season winning margin versus the sec and big 12. with ten teams playing in bowl games last season, ONE couldnt put them in 4th! for the past four years(dont know about five and on), the acc has produced the top two out of all conferences with the most draft picks… nevertheless(reason why i mentioned 4) staying in the nfl.

the big ten– vandy to wake could beat the lower 6 to 7 teams. bring it! the south rules!

pac ten… hmmm……….. hmmm again. usc. nough said. AND thats all i can say. and there you’ve had it, i blogged two lines for the pac!……. make it five.zona should be better… OU is like wisconsin… asu is A great party school! ucla- COME ON!!! you got the best scenery slash tailgaiting SLASH weather slash CA high school players SLASH SPACE(been to four games there and all was for the rose bowl and parking is ALL on grass… but BOTH THE PAC TEN AND BIG TEN did not have the set up as i did coming from the south just to enjoy a good game and visiting family!!!) imagine if i really cared for usc.

the big east(maybe the last time i would say “big” blogging… only the personal love for coach jb out of syracuse’s bball and coach dw of pitt because i love the steelers would i still do) SHOULD NOT be in the
BullCS formula. just be satisfied you’re in and not the wac, and be really happy with only SIXTEEN teams playing bball.

with that said… if you’ve like my many spontaneous blogging, email to let me have my own column. as a born and raised atlantan entrepreneur, i’ll at least give out many free stuff!

T-Rav and the Eastside Grainger

July 30th, 2009
1:14 am

This was actually an enjoyable blog. Thank you.


July 30th, 2009
1:44 am

I dont think the ACC has true respect from either the SEC or Big 12 yet. Clemson beating SC, Wake beating Ole Miss and Vandy, and GT beating Mississippi State and UGA last year helped our cause. Thats five SEC teams that got knocked off last year by the ACC. But the LSU game definately looked awful for the conference as a whole, and NC State getting skunked by South Carolina didnt help one bit either. But the ACC still doesnt get near the respect from the SEC it deserves. Many people forgot that Wake beat Ole Miss. I think the ACC is looked upon as a weak conference, but its really not. If VT pulls it out against Alabama, it would be huge for the conference. And if Tech can beat UGA two years in a row it would look really good as well. And who knows, maybe FSU can pull it out against Florida.

As far as the Big 12 goes, the ACC doesnt get a chance to really show itself against them. IF Miami can beat Oklahoma this year (highly unlikely) then it would be a huge win for the conference as a whole. And tech will be playing Kansas in 2010. I think the ACC’s top teams (VT, GT, FSU, UNC) could hang with anyone in the Big 12. Texas and Oklahoma would be extremely tough games, but they arent any better than LSU or Bama or Florida, and maybe even UGA. Then the rest of the Big 12 would get handled by the four ACC teams (yes, Missouri and Texas Tech).

The ACC is superior to the Pac 10 and Big 10 IMO. Penn state is the only team that an ACC team would have a tough time handling in the big 10. Ohio state is HIGHLY overrated and I think that they are the caliber of an FSU or UNC. They are always way overrated EVERY year, and it was shown when they went undefeated all year in 2006 and got run off the field agaisnt Florida in the NC. And then the rest of the Big 10 is like a middle caliber ACC team. The Pac 10 has USC that would be another tough one to handle, then the rest arent anything to worry about. Oh, and the Big East is not even worth mentioning.

Overall, as of right now, the ACC is the third best conference. But this next year could prove to be different. As stated before, I think that VT, GT, FSU, and UNC can all compete on the national level. I think UNC may drop off this year, but VT GT and FSU all have games against the top SEC teams this year. We just have to prove the naysayers wrong by winning…


July 30th, 2009
2:52 am

All the talk about which conference is better or stronger falls into the category of nobody knows until they start playing. What does matter is Winning your games. Look at USC in the Pac-10. The conference is no better that the ACC other than USC gets the love for Winning. They stub their toe once a year and that usually knocks them out of the big dance. Oklahoma and the Big-12. Look at Oklahoma’s performance in BCS games. Not good. Yes they get there, then lose to Boise, WVU, and USC beats them like a drum.

Georgia Tech can run the ball on anyone. The kicking game and turnovers ruined them in the game against LSU last year. Not to mention a hangover from the UGA win. I’m looking for big things from Paul Johnson this year now that the system is in place. Check out more Georgia Tech postings on for season previews.

Tech is ready to make a move in year two and the conference will show that they can compete with anyone starting off with Va Tech beating Bama in the opener. Stop the pre-season jitters and get ready to enjoy an awesome year on the flats. I know the team and staff have more confidence than what I have been reading on these posts from the fans. Remember, running the ball is what wins games. Last year 273 yards a game on the ground with lots of mistakes on every play. Show some stones and quit acting like the sky is falling. The defense will be just fine. After Tenuta left everyone said we wouldn’t be able to stop anybody. Look at all the interceptions last year! People, we have a COACH!

god and greyhound

July 30th, 2009
5:48 am

gtu: 7-5, lose to la tech in boyse.


July 30th, 2009
6:40 am

As hard as it is to say, the SEC is rightfully the best conference. That’s just based on the top four. The rest of the teams not that great. The Big 12 second just because of Oklahoma and Texas.

But overall, the ACC from top to bottom should be the better conference. We’re still considered a BBall conference and until we start winning very year we’ll continue to be. I believe the ACC is on the right track. VT continues to win despite their offense. GT with CPJ will be the shinning star of the conference. Miami will continue to improve. Once Bowden finally bows out, Jimbo will bring them back again. Butch Davis has UNC on the rise. NCST will defenitely get better. The other teams will also continue to improve to make us a strong conference for years to come. Competition will keep us strong. So again, overall the ACC is better from top to bottom. We just have to prove ourselves.

It will be interesting to see how UF, Texas and Oklahoma handles themselves after Tebow, McCoy and Bradford turn pro. Let down a bit, maybe? In the coming years the ACC might just start getting the respect they deserve!!! GO JACKETS


July 30th, 2009
7:24 am

GT suffered the first year coach let down against LSU. CPJ was not happy with his coaching against the Tigers. See Tech run the ball and see Tech throw the ball. This should be a good year if the defense can pick up the slack. The offense will shine!

Not Disappointed

July 30th, 2009
7:47 am

Doug, that’s the second best blog post for you as a writer. Thanks agains for the insite.

Now, the Jackets can shine with focus on the defense side and watching our basic X and O’s. This can be a special year for the Jackets.

Ramblin Wreck!


July 30th, 2009
8:56 am

yes, i do believe this could be the jacket’s time….you’re right doug, CPJ’s system and style of offense is perfect for Tech…..we do not typically get the 5 star athletes……in this system, we will win alot of games and it will be better suited to our personnel….as far as conferences go, its a cyclical thing…..right now the ACC is considered down….however, the parity in this conference is strong… real lightweights now with Duke on the rise…..i like the conference and believe its a perfect fit for Tech……can’t wait for the season to start….

Go Jackets and THWG!!

Doug Roberson

July 30th, 2009
9:04 am

Re: the Chick-fil-A game, both coaches have said it doesn’t do them any favors to have teams from their respective conferences to come in and play in the Dome. But, there’s not much they can do about it.
Personally, I’m not sure it makes that much of a difference.
The teams get exposure in the state, but it’s not like the coach can tell a recruit that the will definitely be playing in Atlanta again within the next five years, therefore your friends and family can come watch.
Chick-fil-A organizers have said they are not locked in to the ACC-SEC matchup, even though that’s how it has worked out. I think they would like to get a team from the Big 12 or Pac 10, but they have to be mindful of how many folks will travel.


July 30th, 2009
9:15 am

Why hasn’t the ACC gotten the same respect as the SEC? Do you really have to ask? Because the ACC, at this time, doesn’t deserve the same respect.

The SEC produced the last 3 national champions. In the bowls this last winter, Florida beats Oklahoma; Ole Miss (4th in the SEC) stomps Texas Tech (tied for 1st in the Big 12); LSU (5th in the SEC) stomps GT (tied for 1st in the ACC); Kentucky (last in the SEC East) beats East Carolina (2nd or 3rd in its league); even Vandy wins a bowl game against Boston College. That is pretty good evidence that the SEC not only has the best team in the country, but is the deepest conference. No one cares if the ACC has a better bottom-dweller than the SEC.

ACC fans have a lot to be excited about, especially GT and Virginia Tech fans. But the ACC needs Miami and Florida State to produce the kinds of teams that they did in the 80s and 90s before the ACC will receive or deserve the same respect as the SEC.

Buzz Belle

July 30th, 2009
9:28 am

August is going to be a long wait for the first game. I haven’t been this excited in a very long time. GO JACKETS and THWG!

Saint Simons

July 30th, 2009
9:42 am

45 42!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


July 30th, 2009
9:44 am

The ACC wont need Miami and FSU to step up if VT and GT can do it… if VT beats bama, it would put them in the top 5 to start the season and they would have a good chance at going undefeated until they play GT, which should make a great game. I would love to see VT and GT go 11-1 and 12-0, either team undefeated would still be nice. Unlikely it would happen though. I dont see Miami ever becoming a power house under Randy Shannon. Hes a great recruiter, and they will always be a solid 7 or 8 win team, but i dont think they will ever be championship caliber, but he may prove me wrong. FSU is the same. Bowden’s time is coming to an end… FSU will play in the ACCCG though because of the weak Atlantic division. GT, VT, (and with their recent recruiting and excellent coaching) UNC are the future of the ACC and WILL be able to start competing with the big dogs.


July 30th, 2009
10:00 am

The ACC is a solid #3 IMO.

BIG 12
BIG Televen
Everybody else

Unfortunately for the ACC, there are a lot of “good” teams, and, while this is great in the NFL, it is a death sentence for any college conference trying to put someone in the BCSCG. Parity = Bad for business in college football.

Once someone breaks out, and it very well could be Tech, the ACC will start earning some respect…but until there is a legit national championship discussion regarding an ACC team, no respect will be coming your way.

The ACC has a chance to make some noise early in the year, with VT having a big opportunity against Bama, and Maryland going to Cal…but there cannot be another outcome like Clemson/Bama last year. That was a PR disaster for the ACC.

Quick note: I don’t understand why some Tech people always allude to “our type of personnel” or say we can’t recruit “the stud athlete”, etc. As if Paul Johnson’s offense only works with the 2* kid that tries really, really hard.

If you guys would care to notice, there are plenty of 3 and 4 star kids on the field in key positions, and it appears that more of the same will be coming in the future:

I think you sell yourselves short too often on the whole recruting thing. According to this, you are currently #9 in the country in average stars (3.44) for the 2010 class, and from what I’ve heard, are still in the mix for some highly regarded kids. For some perspective, we are listed at an average of 3.47 stars.

Good things are definitely on the horizon for Tech, and maybe it is their time to seize control of the ACC, which is fine with me. I would love for Clean Old-Fashioned Hate to really mean somthing at the end of the year….it would make it sweeter when we beat you!

Oh well.



July 30th, 2009
10:09 am

I just wanna say thank you for the classy comment, BankerDawg. Thanks for not pulling a Huh? and it is good to know there are non-obnoxious dawg fans out there. And good analysis btw. Now pls prepare to get run over on the last Sat in November lol.

Trade School Junkie

July 30th, 2009
10:10 am

Roberson, this is the type of blog you should write. Its good.

There are 3 primary things from 2008 that “most of the country” remembers about the ACC:

1. Clemson losing big to Bama (Nationally televised game in Atlanta).
Bad PR. The ACC’s pre-season pick to be ACC Champs, and a Top 10 pre-season ranking. I thought it was a HUGE mistkae for the ACC to be pimping a Clemson team that (as I vocally expressed) was grossly
over-rated. But, the ACC doesnt ask my opinion. It was, of course, a beatdown, and the lasting impression was a “ACC aint ready for primetime” sentiment.

2. GT losing big to LSU (Nationally televised game in Atlanta).

GT was looking good for having such a great first year with CPJ.
But, (Again, as I vocally expressed) there was NO WAY an all-freshmen GT O-Line was gonna be able to stand up against a NC-winning LSU defense. It was boys vs. men. Case closed. The fact the CPJ didnt “ramp up” the practices before that game said to me that winning that bowl game was not a priority. STs play was especailly bad. GT probably loses that game anyway, but not in a blowout. Going for it on 4th & 8 from the GT 22 with 8:27 left in the 2nd Qtr. WTH??

3. VT beating Cincy in the Orange Bowl
Some minor redempation for the ACC. But, as the rest of the country was asking, “Who the Hell is Cincinnatti??” And, while Cincy was a decent team, the ACC Champ only got a 20-7 win. As ACC Champ, it should have looked like a dominating performace by VT. It wasnt.

So, thats kind of highlights what the “rest of the country” saw about the ACC last year.

Next up, how the BCS Cartel is DELIBERATELY hurting the ACC, and the rest of college football.


July 30th, 2009
10:11 am

If UGA were in the ACC they’d be somewhere in the middle behind G.T., FSU, V.T., N.C. State, Miami, Clemson and UNC.

After Florida, Alabama, and LSU (admittedly stronger than first tier ACC teams) there are a bunch of second tiers where UGA fits in with the SEC. High second tier is the limit for UGA in the SEC.

But for consolation – in either conference UGA would be above the third tier teams.


July 30th, 2009
10:23 am

Equal to the Big10? I hope not! The ACC is much better than the Big10. Even in it’s down years the last 3 years, I think the ACC has to be considered a better conference than the Big 10, Pac 10 and Big East.

To be a great conference, a conference needs two ingredients. First, depth – which the ACC, SEC and to a less extent the Big 12 have. Second, elite teams (teams playing for National Championships) – which the SEC, Big12, Pac-10 (only USC) and occassionally the Big10 have. This is where the ACC needs to make progress to be considered on the same level as the SEC and Big12. The Pac10 and Big10 are top heavy conferences; i.e. they have one or maybe two teams that are in the NC hunt and nothing else. The ACC beats them due to depth (the ACC’s 7-8 best team would be competitive with 2-3 in either of those conferences).


July 30th, 2009
10:27 am

Speaking of CPJ not “ramping up” practices before the chick-fil-a bowl… I would hope he would not do the same this year if tech is to make a BCS bowl… or any other bowl for that matter lol…


July 30th, 2009
10:47 am

Good blog Doug,

One of the main reasons the ACC doesn’t get the respect is the employer that signs your paycheck, Doug. The largest paper (propaganda machine) in the S.E.

Mr. SEC football Tony Barnyard!?! Masquerading around as Mr. College football…hah!!!

“dawg profile of the week” or what ever that joke was last year. You know, where the AJC ask really stupid questions to the fleabags like “what’s your favorite book?”…answer… “Umm, the incredible hulk”. 15 blogs per day by Kapt. Kangaroo, I mean Bill King.

6-6 vs. the SEC. You can’t spin that, period. You can be ignorant, but you can’t spin it.

It’s Thursday and we haven’t had our weekly discussion on should the UGAg vs. UF game be moved, what’s going on?


July 30th, 2009
10:59 am

I’ll agree that the ACC doesn’t deserve the same respect as the SEC currently gets, because it hasn’t won the visible games.

That said, the ACC still contains a few programs with the seeds for either their respective “return(s) to glory” or whole new directions for their future. Regardless which type of school (faded glory looking for that return [GT, FSU, Miami, Clemson, etc.), or new and shiny [VT, NC State, etc.]) there is a chance for each. The ones with best chance to make it happen THIS YEAR on the big stages of American college football are the ones with the coaches that get it. Put VT, UNC, Wake, and our GT in that category until any others step up. Those we’ll wait on for a while? Miami and FSU.

Conference rankings? Gotta give the SEC the crown for producing the champs. Big 12 next for having the perrenial challengers (and some great history). ACC next in line with stats like NFL success, bowl appearances, evident parity (debatable?), and plenty of the same pageantry. After that, argue amongst yourselves on where the Big 10 and Pac 10 stack up. The Big East has empty cupboards. I’d almost put the WAC before them.

Go Jackets!

Trade School Junkie

July 30th, 2009
11:01 am

Folks, lets be clear about one thing. The BCS is a CARTEL, and ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT (you reading me Barnhart) ARE A BUNCH OF LIARS AND CHEATERS who support a “system” as corrupt as Wall Street or Washington, DC.

It is a totally rigged system THAT FAVORS THOSE SCHOOLS THAT STAND TO GET THE MOST MONEY FROM IT, at the expense of EVERYONE ELSE. The lunatics run the asylum.

Lets recap a little from the some of the better teams’ regular season schedules last year:

USC: 11-1 (Loss to OregonSt)
UF: 11-1 (Loss to Ole Miss)
Bama: 12-0
Texas: 11-1(Loss to TxTech)
TxTech: 11-1 (Loss to OK)
OK: 11-1(Loss to TX)
Ohio State: 10-2 (loss to USC & Penn State)
Penn State: 11-1 (loss to Iowa)
Utah: 12-0

Forget all the bowls for a moment, outside the BCS NC game, how many teams are R-E-A-L-L-Y that motivated to play? Whats REALLY to be gained for Texas (who missed their shot) to play a bowl game? Any bowl game?

Bama was, of course a better team than Utah, but really, after losing their NC title shot to UF, just exactly how motivated was Bama to play in ANY bowl game? A bowl game afer losign to UF was gonna be a let-down. Bowl games didnt mean squat in terms of player motivation to teams like USC, Texas, TxTech, Bama. All of the other bowl games really become just “exhibition games.”

In 2008, Utah, Ohio St, and Penn State played what has to be THE MOST CUPCAKE SCHEDULES in the modern history of D-1 football.

So……………HOW IN THE HELL……….does TexasTech (whose only loss was to OK)end up in the Cotton Bowl, while Ohio State goes to the Fiesta, PennState goes to the Rose, and Utah (UTAH !@#$%^&*) ends up in the Sugar Bowl??

WHAT THE HELL !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Folks, USC beat Ohio Stae 35-3, and it was merciful for Ohio State that the game was only played for 60 minutes.

Utah’s schedule included:Weber State, Wyoming, Colorado State, and San Diego State. Ohio State’s included: Youngstown State, Ohio U, and Troy.
Penn State had: Coastal Carolina, Temple !?!?, and Syracuse.

Folks, DUKE had a tougher schedule !!!!!!!!


Fokls, listen up. The Sugar Bowl was a “GIFT” to Utah to (ahem) “persuade” the Mountain West people to get their “BUY-IN” to the BCS system. Was it “just a coincedence” that the Mountain West agreed to the BCS just a few weeks ago.

No, it wasnt.


July 30th, 2009
11:12 am

I wish you idiot Techies would stop talking. All you do is talk talk talk. You make me so angry. You have the worst fans in the world. UGA will beat you by 50 this year. Joe Cox will throw 5 TD’s. UGA will go undefeated and play Oklahoma in the National Championship. If you don’t believe that you are an idiot. BankerDawg you sir are a sell out….Tech sux. Just admit it and move on. Their fans are nerds and losers. Good day!


July 30th, 2009
11:26 am


July 30th, 2009
11:12 am
I wish you idiot Techies would stop talking. All you do is talk talk talk.

And what, praytell, do your Dawg fans do, sir? If it’s not barking then it is, in fact, TALKING. Your point (if you have one) refutes itself, and your undefeated prediction is overconfident and devoid of perspective. Accept that fans talk, and accept that our particular fanbases talk a lot to each other. It will never end as long as these two teams play only 70 miles apart in a football state. Count to ten before saying anything else.

Trade School Junkie

July 30th, 2009
11:32 am

Maybe all of this sounds like the “rantings” of a lunatic mind.

So, I’ll ofer this comparison:

How would you good folks feel if a similar BCS-type system were applied to:
1. College Basketball
2. The NFL
3. the NBA
4. Fantasy Football
5. Major League Baseball
6. High school football
7. High School basketball
8. Little League
9. Pro Golf
10. Pro Hockey

See my point. Fans would…RIOT.

Dont expect the current BCS leadership(lunatics) to fix it.

I actually expect to see the BCS & NCAA sued in Federal court BY A COMBINATION OF D1 SCHOOLS & CONFERENCES before its all over, and D1 football Federally-forced into a playoff system. Aferall, we’re taking Federal dollars frequently get dolled out to many many Universities. The Feds could step in and say to the BCS…”Fix it, or we start withhlding Federal money & student aid to your University, or those in your conference.” Get the point. Dont think it wont happen.

If you’re the President or AD of a D1 school, or a leader in a conference that has been getting dissed by the BCS powers, then your program is being denied the chance to earn some of the MILLIONS being spread around to other programs.

ONLY A PLAYOFF SYSTEM will level and equalize the playing the field that is PURPOSELY being tilted & distorted by the current BCS & its leaders.

US Senator Orrin Hatch recently stepped into the debate over the BCS Cartel. Any guess what state he is US Senator for? Thats right: UTAH.

So, Utah gets a BCS-Sugar Bowl invite and some BCS money to get the Mountain West conference to “buy-in” to the BCS system, and keep ol’ Mr. Hatch…AND HIS UTAH CONSTITUENT BASE HAPPY.

See how crooked it all is?


July 30th, 2009
11:39 am

It has occurred to me that Tech’s running game can be a disadvantage. Shoot, they tend to score so quickly that, contrary to most running games, the other team gets the ball back too quickly, and is not deprived of one or two offensive series, as might be the case with three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust. Kind of like Texas Tech without the ball in the air. Of course, one might ask for the alternative. There ain’t one, except build a better defense. I hope you are right, but I suppose that’s why they play the games and keep the score.


July 30th, 2009
11:46 am

Dude from Sporting News (where a former AJCer is the editor, correct?) picked the Jackets as one of the teams that could run the table this year.
Why not?

Trade School Junkie

July 30th, 2009
11:51 am

So, since the BCS has the power to grant (or cancel) media credentials,
dont expect the AJC or folks like Tony Barnhart(and others) to be VOCALLY critical of the BCS.

Especially, if “Mr. College Football’s” favorite team & conference
(UGA & the SEC) stand to gain a DISPROPORTIONALLY large share of BCS money from a BCS system that is: financially, politically, AND MORALLY corrupt.

Doug Roberson

July 30th, 2009
11:57 am

Junkie, you’ve got it wrong, my man. I don’t want to put words in my friend Tony’s mouth, but he’s not a fan of the BCS. He, like most, would prefer to see a playoff. But he also doesn’t think the BCS is the monstrosity that others think.
And, credentials would never be pulled for being critical.
And Tony has no favorite conferences or teams. That ground has been turned into mud.


July 30th, 2009
12:04 pm

I grew up in Atlanta in the 50s. I followed Tech because they were the hometown team. In those days Tech rarely lost and Georgia rarely won. The coaches and players were gentlemen. When the opposing team ran onto the field there was polite applause and they were never booed. I really miss those days.

When Paul Johnson was hired I bet others that Tech would win at least 8 games when they were picked to win only 3. Why? Johnson won everwhere especially Navy which really can not recruit athletes. He is a gentlman and down home savy head coach. He showed what he could do with athletes last year. He will only improve from here on out. Georgia fans fear what he can do. They should be prepared to wait a long time for another win against Tech. Just like the 50s.


July 30th, 2009
12:29 pm

Doug, that was a solid article. I do however think that VT has a shot at a title within these next two years. If not this year, then I have heard next year will be our year. I love the scheduling that VT did this season. Alabama and Nebraska instead of some Division 1-AA school. However, in 2010 and 2011 our out of conference games are terrible. In 2010 we have Central and Western Michigan, ECU and Boise State. Now, I am glad to see that VT got Boise State on the schedule, but it was just to fill in an empty spot after Syracuse backed out of their home and home deal and will only be a one time thing. For 2011, the out of conference games are abysmal. Appalachian State, ECU, Marshall, and as of yesterday Arkansas State. Yikes. My guess is, people think that most of those should be easy wins after a rough slate like this year’s and VT would have a better shot at a national title. Yes, Central and Western Michigan had arguably 2 of the best QB’s in college football, but now they are gone. Will they still be that good? As for Virginia Tech recruiting, as I am sure you know, VT has done a great job of taking 2 and 3 star recruits and turning them into great NFL talent. Not a lot of teams can say that. For the 2010 recruiting class VT has 17 recruits already and possibly adding another one today. With the depth at the running back position Evans/Williams/Wilson (and even Oglesby), that makes VT’s offense much better than last years. Our WR’s are pretty deep too. Depending on where Frank puts Logan Thomas (either QB or WR) I think VT has the potential to have a great offense this year to accompany an already stout Defense. But that’s just my honest opinion.

I agree with Jacketfan, if GT or VT could go undefeated and the other be 11-1, that would be huge for the ACC as a conference overall.


July 30th, 2009
12:40 pm

Bankerdawg, you are by far my favorite dawg commenter on this blog. Keep it classy.


July 30th, 2009
12:52 pm

I wish you idiot Techies would stop talking. All you do is talk talk talk. You make me so angry. You have the worst fans in the world. UGA will beat you by 50 this year. Joe Cox will throw 5 TD’s. UGA will go undefeated and play Oklahoma in the National Championship. If you don’t believe that you are an idiot. BankerDawg you sir are a sell out….Tech sux. Just admit it and move on. Their fans are nerds and losers. Good day!


July 30th, 2009
1:46 pm

Great post Doug. I think we can all sense something big is about to happen on the flats. Gonna be a fun ride.


July 30th, 2009
2:02 pm

Huh?: At least thier “talk talk talk” has some importance and they aren’t just blabbing their mouths looking ignorant like you. Do you really think that UGA is going to be that good without Stafford and Moreno? I see GT beating UGA this year by 2 TD’s. You say that GT “have the worst fans in the world” and yet all you can contribute to this conversation is totally ignorant, pointless comments? You sir need to come down off of your high horse. Come on, think before you speak.


July 30th, 2009
2:24 pm

I masturbate to pictures of Mark Richt. I sometimes pretend he’s Helen Hunt.