Georgia Tech vs. Georgia State: a battle of Atlanta

In one of the more intriguing draws and games, Georgia Tech will host Georgia State on Friday in the first round of the NCA baseball regional. I half thought the NCAA might have some fun and put UGA and Ga. State in the Atlanta regional, as well. 

While making the NCAA is old hat for Danny Hall and the Jackets (he’s now guided the Jackets to the playoffs 14 of the past 16 years, including the College World Series in 1994, 2002 and 2006), this will be the Panthers’ first time in the postseason.

There have been some comments on this board from Tech fans unhappy with Hall’s reign, but for the life of me I can’t figure out why. The playoffs 14 of 16 years in what has arguably been the toughest conference in the country? Three times in the College World Series? One loss in the title game? There’s a reason you don’t see too many dynasties in college baseball. In fact, during the past 10 years no team has won the CWS more than twice. LSU is the closest thing to a dynasty in baseball, winning the title five times during the past 18 years, and it hasn’t played for the championship since last winning it in 2000.

Why? It’s tough to do. And baseball doesn’t exclude anyone from the playoffs. Every team, even the ones that are I-AA or a mid-major in football, can play for the national championship in baseball. 

Throw in the fact that baseball rosters, which are obviously much smaller than football rosters, constantly churn because of the draft. Three times in 15 seasons? That’s the same as three sweet 16s in basketball, which is a decent accomplishment.

Anyway, let’s look at how the Jackets and Panthers match up statistically in a few key categories (leaders in bold):

Category      Tech        State

Team BA       .318          .310

Opp. BA        .263          .284

HR                  104            72

Opp. HR           46            53

RBI                  438          426

Opp. RBI         252           325

SLG                .549          .474

Opp. SLG       .389          .426

ERA                4.68          5.41

Opp. ERA       7.98          7.24

SO                  478           459

Opp. SO         380           384

As you can see, Tech is better in most categories, has a big advantage in home runs, and a significant advantage in slugging percentage and opponents’ RBI, which says to me that Tech takes much better advantage of taking advantage of scoring opportunities, and limiting its opponents’ chances.

One more thing about Tech. It played arguably the toughest schedule in the country this year. It did stumble at the end, but it is hosting for a reason. 

Anyway, send me your thoughts on this matchup, as well as Tech’s chances of making it to the super regionals.

75 comments Add your comment

Biff Pocoroba

May 25th, 2009
9:14 pm

Danny made it to the CWS his first season using the talent left over from Jim Morris with Nomar and Varitek. He made it one more time when Tech was supposed to play at Alabama in the super regionals but Alabama got upset and Tech got to play Florida Atlantic at home instead. Since his first season, Danny has only won one game in Omaha despite having a lot of drafted talent each season. Perno has made it to Omaha as many times at UGA despite only coaching about 1/3 of the time as Danny. Hall’s teams are never able to bunt or produce runs against better pitching in the tournament when the home run hitters like Murton stop hitting home runs. Hall has put together a lot of top 10 teams and top recruiting classes but just can’t seem to put it together in the tournament. However, Perno’s teams find a way to step up and overachieve at the right time.

georgiasouthern fan

May 25th, 2009
9:44 pm

georgia southern is the real baseball team in the state. We won 42 games and are a 2 seed. We slit the series with tech and beat east carolina. Not to mention winning the socon and beating Elon. We kind of got snubbed having to go out to California for regionals. However we will be fine and are going to due some damage in the tournament. GATA

georgiasouthern fan

May 25th, 2009
10:06 pm

Hey Doug that is real mature of u and shows a lot of class deleting my post regarding Georgia Southern. You are sure one upstanding journalist. I am sure the ajc is thriled to have you on board

Tech fan in California

May 25th, 2009
10:10 pm

The college baseball postseason is not the “playoffs”. It is a “regional’ or more broadly the “postseason.” Hockey, the NFL and basketball use playoff systems. College baseball selects Regional and Super Regional tournaments. It is different in competition structure, seeding, and site selection than a playoff.

Also, why are the SO’s and Opponent’s SO’s bolded for Ga. State? The number of opponent batters struck out is a positive statistic; the number of times opponents struck your batters out is a negative statistic.

And a 32 home run difference is very (.7 more jacks per game in a tougher league) significant considering Ga. State played 6 more games than Tech.

I do not mean to bash the Panthers at all. I played with and against many of them. It is good for Atlanta and the University to challenge Tech for wins, recruits, and student-athletes. I criticize the blog only because I am a faithful reader. I rely on it and the ajc.com to keep me somewhat in the loop. Thanks and keep up the good work.

Doug Roberson

May 25th, 2009
10:18 pm

Hey, gasouthern, I didn’t delete your post. I don’t know what you posted, but I didn’t take it off.

Hey Tech fan, I should have included home runs as a major difference in the stats. I need to clean up the strikeouts, as well. Will do that now.

Eaglefan

May 25th, 2009
11:04 pm

Can’t find any news on ga southern’s socon win and selection to the CWS regional. Just shows you what crap on-line paper the AJC is to not report on all state schools. To leave out ga southern again is unforgiveable.

Techman

May 25th, 2009
11:23 pm

Danny Hall will start coaching and choke and lose the playoffs as usual. His real coaching talent comes out now, just as in the ACC tourney and the previous seasons high rankings, only to be overshadowed by lesser talented teams. Hopefully somebody will hire Hall away.

PantherFan314

May 26th, 2009
12:55 am

Why do you have Georgia State even mentioned if you’re only gonna list there stats? I hope Tech overlooks State, they beat them before on that field in a televised game and they can do it again.

George P

May 26th, 2009
5:24 am

You’re message is still there, georgiasouthern fan. Don’t let that stop you from jumping to conclusions.

PantherFan314, this is the Tech blog. Maybe there is more information for you in the Georgia State section.

George P

May 26th, 2009
5:27 am

Oh, and PantherFan314, this is an Atlanta newspaper’s site. Doesn’t Statesboro have a newspaper?

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gotech 610

May 26th, 2009
8:52 am

GA southern “fans” get a hold of yourselves. I don’t know one person who actually graduated from there and that school has like the highest STD rates in the state, so come on…lay off. No one in Atlanta cares for your Ga Southern.

Now on to the real GSU. I go to state and I am a GT fan. I don’t know what to say about this game. The stats are closer than I thought, but I still don’t know GSU chances. If they pitch well and keep the homers out, could make for a classic.

gte268p

May 26th, 2009
8:57 am

Since Tech baseball has pretty much mirrored the Braves during their run, I’m hoping we got the annual choke job over with with those 2 bad losses in the ACC tournament. Maybe now we can do some damage!

By the way, I appreciate the new, longer Tech blog on something other than football, Doug!

Roger Thurmond

May 26th, 2009
9:07 am

It’ll be interesting to see if GT starts Deck McGuire (ACC pitcher of the year)against Ga State. After him, GT’s pitching has been inconsistent at best this season. I believe Hall will start Deck knowing full well State is a danerous team and the last thing you can afford is to drop into the loser’s bracket after game 1.

I’m a GT fan and I commend both the State program and Sothern’s program on their fine years. State has a real fine coach who is block by block building that program into a consistent winner. He knows there is just too much local talent not to field a good team. As for Ga Southern, they have a rich baseball tradition and seem to have gotten the short end of the stick being sent out west. They are a very strong 2 seed. Plus, I can’t help but pull for the Eagles since Paul Johnson came from there.

PantherFan314

May 26th, 2009
9:12 am

Yes the Georgia State section is so BIG in this great newspaper, HAHAHAHAHA!!!! All they do is copy the stories posted on the GSU sports website, that’s great journalism. I go to GSU and NOT a Tech fan, I hope we make it to Super Regionals and see how much the paper writes about it since the other 3 GA schools won’t be making it that far.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 26th, 2009
9:12 am

I like Danny Hall, hopefully soon we will get the hardware. He gets the team to post season and always has a conference winning record, unlike Paul Phewitt.

Ramblinwreck1378

May 26th, 2009
9:48 am

PantherFan314: Georgia State is not a perennial baseball powerhouse, so why are you expecting so much notoriety for making it as a 4 seed in a regional? Do something note-worthy like beating the Jackets on Friday, and perhaps people will start talking. Georgia Tech football was hardly ever talked about last fall, especially in comparison to Georgia. They didn’t complain, they didn’t get down on themselves. They won the big game, and now look, everyone is talking about them.

And for both Georgia Southern and State fans: Let’s be honest with ourselves, Southern, you beat us in the 4th game of the season by one run. In the 4th game of the season, we’re playing 20 people a game trying to figure out a good lineup to get prepared to endure a season in a REAL baseball conference. And State, we played you in the middle of the week, a few days before we went to Coral Gables to take on Miami. I don’t think we’re throwing anywhere near our best pitcher. By the way, we threw Jed Bradley, who is a true fresman…

In any event, I like Georgia Tech’s chances to make it out of the regional, but the potential opponent in the super regional indubitably poses some issues. Florida is not a “wow” team, but does play solid defense with a 97% fielding percentage, and their pitchers are going to keep them in the game with a .280 opponent batting average. Georgia Tech definitely has potential firepower in their lineup, with the likes of Murton, Plagman, and Dietrich, but as of late, the Jackets haven’t been able to get things firing on all cylinders. It’ll be interesting to see how the Jackets come out and play this weekend. At times, they look good enough to win the whole thing, and others, they look as if they could be two and through.

spider

May 26th, 2009
10:17 am

congradulations to all 4 schools from georgia, i wished they hadnt put two of them in the same region but mayby we can get 3 in the super regionals, good luck to all 4 teams

PantherFan314

May 26th, 2009
10:33 am

The reason it’s a big deal is because it is there first time making it to the tournament. Wouldn’t you want the same for your softball team since its the first time they made super regionals or if they made it to the wcws? Or are you only a fan that cares about certain sports? Or are you just a spoiled Tech fan who cries cause you don’t get enough coverage in the AJC and gets overlooked by UGA? I’m not knocking Tech or anyone, obviously I want State to win but I’m only commented on the AJC and how much much garbage it is for not covering GSU (Georgia State University) enough.

Baba O'Riley

May 26th, 2009
10:39 am

Honestly, if there was a story on GSU baseball, it wouldn’t get many hits. If you’re that upset, just read the stories on the GSU website.

Jason C.

May 26th, 2009
10:46 am

Ramblinwreck1378

What happened 04/08/2009 then? Fact is we went 2-2 with you end of story. The fact you did not know that proves you are a completely ignorant and are just talking out of your ass. So the SoCon does not qualify as being a good baseball conference when our conference RPI is top ten out of 31 DIV I baseball conferences? Do you have any clue what you are talking about? This is not the corrupt BCS football guy things are actually proven on the field. Try being somewhat informed before you post next time.

Baba O'Riley

May 26th, 2009
10:51 am

Is playing in a Top 10 conference really wotrh bragging about?

realGSUfan

May 26th, 2009
10:56 am

Okay, ramblinwreck1378, you can make excuses for us beating you by one run on the fourth day of the season, so what about the fourth game we played, in Atlanta, when we beat you 23 – 3?

EAGLES1

May 26th, 2009
10:56 am

Jason C. so if Tech and the ACC is sooo superior in everyway possible. Why didn’t Tech sweep Georgia Southern? What? Can’t hear you? Speak up tech fans all I hear is some cry babies that got beat 2-2 games by a horrible team from South Georgia that won their conference and is headed to a Regional. TECH FANS = USELESS

Jason C.

May 26th, 2009
10:58 am

Baba O’Riley

That is not the point. The reason GSU fans take issue with just a blurb is GSU gets plenty of mention whenever there is a negative story. I understand we do not have the thousands of redneck wanna bees who never stepped foot in a UGA classroom or has ever seen a diploma of any kind for that matter making up our fan base but give me a break there are thousands upon thousands of GSU alumni and students in the Metro area. So while a full blown article is certainly not in order, nor is any GSU fan suggesting that, a paper that is struggling might want to try reaching out to thousands rather than pissing them off. GSU may not be located in one of the metro counties but over half of its alumni and students come from here so location of the school is not as big of deal as some want to make it out to be. Oh and last I checked as well folks in GSU’s area have computers that are able to view the AJC’s website.

Baba O'Riley

May 26th, 2009
11:01 am

ACC is superior. How many teams from SoCon made the tourney??? 2. ACC teams??? 7!! How much proof do you need?

Jason C.

May 26th, 2009
11:04 am

Baba O’Riley

Technically top eight but I did not expect you to know that, which is also higher than two “big” BCS conferences if that matters to you . Also that is out of 31 conferences in a sport where schools as small as Wichita State can be a powerhouse so yes it is a big deal. Again this is not BCS football where the “big” conferences have any advantage artificial or otherwise. Ignorance is bliss…..

Ramblinwreck1378

May 26th, 2009
11:07 am

Are you trying to tell me that the likes of: Georgia Southern, Elon, Western Carolina, and The Citadel can legitimately compete with Florida State, Miami, North Carolina, and Georgia Tech? Quite frankly, I don’t know what the SoCon RPI is, but I’d be willing to bet that it’s near the bottom half, and if the ACC isn’t number 1, then it’s very very close. There’s quite a disparity between number 2 and number 8. And why don’t we check out individual RPI’s if Southern is so legit. Georgia Tech is number 4 and Southern is 32 according to boydsworld.com. I mean, you tell me. Is Southern a good team? Yes. Will they make it out of their region? No. Do they deserve more respect than they’re getting right now? No. YOU HAVEN’T DONE ANYTHING. Do something more noteworthy than beating Elon in your conference championship, and perhaps you’ll earn some respect. And as for the paper issue.. Grow up and read your own newspaper in Statesboro. I promise, they’ll have all sorts of things in there about your precious Eagles.

Jason C.

May 26th, 2009
11:07 am

Baba O’Riley

The ACC is a superior baseball conference not near as much as you make it out to be over the SoCon. That is all now go look up some stats and become less arrogant and ignorant.

gte268p

May 26th, 2009
11:08 am

Hey angry Georgia Southern people, you might want to clarify that you mean Georgia Southern when you say GSU because in the metro area GSU is short for Georgia State! I know, I know, now you’ll just be even angrier.

Ramblinwreck1378

May 26th, 2009
11:10 am

To answer your question realGSUfan, we pitched a no name nobody on April 8th. We had a series over the weekend with an ACC opponent, so please tell me why we would pitch Deck McGuire in a game that had absolutely no importance or relevance. We’ll just see who makes it out of the regional. I mean, at least be honest with yourselves and expect at best a 1-2 showing in the regional.

realGSUfan

May 26th, 2009
11:12 am

Baba O’Riley, can’t make an argument for your team, so you have to rely on our conference is better than your conference?

USMfan2009

May 26th, 2009
11:12 am

Tech Fans: please don’t just assume you will breeze through this regional. Southern Miss has always thrived being the underdog. Our schedule always includes Rice, Ole Miss, Tulane, ECU and we usually also play teams like Fullerton, LSU, or Alabama. I can’t even find an article mentioning Southern Miss or Elon even being in this regional. Trust me, after playing at Baton Rouge and Oxford for the past few regionals we welcome the chance to play in Atlanta and actually most fans are thankful that we are in this regional. Who knows, we might go two and Q but I think we may surprise a lot of people this weekend. The intensity level for this group has increased a lot of the past few weeks. Seven straight regionals doesn’t happen by accident. Let’s hope we see some good exciting baseball this weekend and all teams remain injury free……May the best team remain standing on Monday.

Jason C.

May 26th, 2009
11:13 am

Ramblinwreck1378

Yeah because having your greatest accomplishment in baseball be being the runner up in 1994 is “doing something”…..to funny. Get a clue

Jason C.

May 26th, 2009
11:16 am

I am not even a big baseball fan but making the GT folks look dumb and ill informed is about as easy is taking a pocket protector from a nerd…oh wait.

Ramblinwreck1378

May 26th, 2009
11:18 am

USM: So wait, you took the time to come to the AJC website, to the Georgia Tech blog, to tell us we should be careful? Hmm.. Find something better to do with your time, please. For our sake and yours.

And umm.. 1994 is more recent than 1990 (your last appearance in the CWS), and last time I’ve checked, you’ve never been runner-up. Soooooo…

realGSUfan

May 26th, 2009
11:20 am

ramblinwreck1378, and we used our 4th starter in that April 8th game. Our guys scored 23 and yours scored 3; what’s your point? Maybe you thought that since we were playing big bad Tech we saved our ace for that game? Hardly.

Ramblinwreck1378

May 26th, 2009
11:23 am

So where is Southern playing again this weekend? All scores shall be settled once the weekend is over. When you’ll be at home, and we’ll be moving on.

Baba O'Riley

May 26th, 2009
11:35 am

realGSU fan, that conference point I made was in reference to EAGLES 1 at 10:56. Please read first.

Baba O'Riley

May 26th, 2009
11:39 am

Jason C.- You claim that you’re making Tech fans look dumb.. and then you say something is “to funny”???? Pocket protector quips are old and played out. Get some new material.

SlimG

May 26th, 2009
11:42 am

Definitely can understand the complaints about Hall. Morris built this program into a winner and then left for a better job at Maimi. Hall’s in-game decisions leave a lot to be desired. Usually catch a couple of games near the end of the season to see ’sup. This year saw the Jackets series with FSU here in Atlanta. After killing the ‘Noles on Friday night, we had a one run lead on Saturday going into the top on the ninth. We had rallied to take the lead late, and had our closer ready. For some reason, we brought in someone else to start the ninth. Then after getting in trouble, we decide to bring the closer in . Way too late! Needless to say, we lost the game.

One major problem for not winning the NC, no ace on the pitching staff. We haven’t had a stud since K Brown. Great facilities, good fan support, and lots of local talent should have produced a champion like the dawgs have done. Would like to see a change if we can’t produce.

Huh?

May 26th, 2009
11:43 am

Go Panthers!!! Make us Atlantans proud. God knows somebody needs to.

USMfan2009

May 26th, 2009
11:45 am

Ramblin you are a tool. Isn’t it time to step away from the dungeons and dragons and leave your parent’s basement? And no, no one wants to see your reinact Star Wars every night. By the way, congrats on your internet “girlfriend”. You’ll be hearing from Chris Hansen soon.

Baba O'Riley

May 26th, 2009
11:45 am

The troll is back. Another UGA team freefalls after #1 ranking.

Ramblinwreck1378

May 26th, 2009
11:49 am

USM, I heard that you also know everything about me. You my friend, are the tool. You are probably a 40 year old man, arguing with a college student about college baseball, instead of having a job. Looks like your Southern Miss education has served you well. And instead of stereotyping the entire Georgia Tech community, why don’t you travel down to Atlanta, not only to get to know some of the fratstars that go there, but also to see your team get rocked. But I bet you won’t. But do it, we’ll have a meal at the Varsity, my treat. I’ll even bring my internet “girlfriend”.

USMfan2009

May 26th, 2009
12:10 pm

Don’t get so worked up Ramblin. Hopefully one day I will be 40 and won’t have to work, but thats fifteen years down the road so I actually do need to get back to work after this post. Thanks for the invite to the Varsity, we probably will have to hit it up at least once on this trip. My wife and I will definitely be there. Probably in a crappy section because it will be through our ticket office here. We look forward to watching some good baseball this weekend. I have no doubt that GT can and will hit some bombs, but hopefully we can keep it close.

USMfan2009

May 26th, 2009
12:23 pm

Ramblin calm down man. I was just playing around. My wife and I will definitely be there and will be ready to watch some good baseball. Our tickets are through our ticket office here at Southern Miss so they will probably be crappy. What kind of crowds show up to the GT games? Will there be any chairbacks available? Also, where would you suggest parking? I heard there is a parking garage near the stadium. I am thinking though it probably won’t be a big issue b/c there won’t be many GT people wanting to watch USM-Elon.

SlimG

May 26th, 2009
12:32 pm

USMfan, hey dude, we look forward to having you here. There is a deck across the street, but plenty of free parking on campus. Just ride around a little. As far as chair backs, just a few reserved behind the dugouts so if that’s important, bring your own. Crowds will be good, but we have a nice park with plenty of good seats. Just get a general admission ticket.

Ramblinwreck1378

May 26th, 2009
12:34 pm

Sorry man. There’s actually not a bad seat in the stadium. There are chairbacks and they are a few dollars extra, and those are right behind home plate. But on either side, they are all good seats. You should be in good shape. There’s a parking deck right behind the baseball stadium, and there’s also parking scattered along the street around campus. You will no doubt be able to find parking somewhere. If all else fails, there’s another parking deck back east across the interstate behind the restaurants and great clips.

GSUDeKalbCentralJC#4

May 26th, 2009
12:37 pm

I played baseball at Dekalb Central JC when Jim Morris coached at DeKalb South JC and I also played at Ga.State University. Let me say may the best team win and I am proud of all of our Georgia teams in the playoffs. Also, Jim Morris was a great coach at Dekalb South, Florida State, Ga. Tech and now Miami. He did build the program at Ga. Tech. because Dekalb Central and Dekalb South JC’s use to whip Tech regularly in preseason play back in the late 70’s