Dwyer for the Heisman….why not?
It’s one of those oddities that no player from Georgia Tech has ever won the Heisman Trophy, named for one of the Jackets’ greatest coaches, John Heisman.
As you know, Heisman coached Tech from 1904-1919 and led the Golden Tornado, as Tech was nicknamed then, to 33 consecutive wins.
Could this year snap the 74-year streak?
Could Jonathan Dwyer bring the Heisman Trophy to Atlanta?
The credentials are obvious: 2008 ACC Player of the Year, 107.3 yards per game rushing average from his B-back spot, 1,395 rushing yards overall last season.
This after just one season in coach Paul Johnson’s offense.
Just think what could be accomplished in Year 2.
The competition will be tough: Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy will likely top everyone’s lists of favorites.
And, throw in the possibility that Dwyer’s stats may not be as good as they were last year. Why? Because Tech has a lot of players who figure to get a lot of touches this year. So, while Dwyer’s stats could theoretically go down a bit, his impact could still be as, well, impactful (I work with words you know).
The campaign gets going early: Jacksonville State followed by national TV games against Clemson and Miami, followed by North Carolina, Mississippi State, Florida State and Virginia Tech.
I think if Tech can make it through that tough stretch, and Dwyer gets his 100 yards a game, it’ll be tough to keep him off the top 5 favorites.
And please don’t discuss how Johnson’s offense is geared toward the rushing game so of course he’s going to have great stats. That’s a silly argument, especially considering the three favorites listed above. Those offenses are also geared toward their skills, just as Dwyer’s skills are utilized best in Johnson’s offense.
So, what do you think?
Who are your Heisman favorites?
Should Dwyer be listed among the top 10, the top 5, the top 3?
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#1 TechFan
May 22nd, 2009
11:28 am
Top 10, AT BEST!
No Heisman for him this year.
Chris
May 22nd, 2009
11:30 am
I’ll take Dwyer over any running back in the country, but aint no way the media gives him the Heisman. Not over the 3 you mentioned. Would love to see it though.
TechDan
May 22nd, 2009
11:36 am
Top Five sounds realistic, but no way he gets in the top 3 when McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford are still around. He could stay another year and win it once they’re all gone though, especially if he stays consistent.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
11:38 am
I think you’re on to something Doug.
He won’t be on the list because GT doesn’t hype their players the way they should. We just walk the walk. He should be in the top ten though.
Contrast that with the 2nd best college football team in Georgia who thinks hurdling a Central Michigan State Technical Trade School 2nd team defensive back is worthy of the honor.
He won’t be on the list, but 2010 has Josh (Robot) Nesbitt in the top 3.
Huh?
May 22nd, 2009
11:39 am
Its not a silly argument. You plug even an average college running back in to that offense and he will gain 1,000 yards on the season guaranteed barring injury. If guys like Moreno and Wells couldn’t crack the Heisman discussion last year there is no way in hell a B-back in Johnson’s system will do it, not with Tebow, Bradford, and McCoy returning. Dumb blog Doug.
Plus Dwyer’s team will have to do alot better than the 8-4 record that I predict for them next year. Players from 8-4 teams do not win Heismans. This is a scientific fact. Have a great day Techies.
Baba O'Riley
May 22nd, 2009
11:49 am
If only Dwyer could play Willie’s defense more than once a year….
GradyGrad96
May 22nd, 2009
11:56 am
Nice read sir. Just out of curiosity, why is the Junkyard Blawger shown with a thumbnail picture on the left of the main sports screen and not the Tech blogger?
Chris
May 22nd, 2009
11:57 am
Ever notice how Dwyer does’nt look like he’s running that fast but nobody ever catches him from behind.
Ralph
May 22nd, 2009
12:02 pm
Hey Baba, if Tech played against Willie’s defense more than once a year, Roddy Jones wins the Heisman hands down.
patrickr
May 22nd, 2009
12:05 pm
Much better blog today Doug!
Paul Hourning
May 22nd, 2009
12:06 pm
Huh? you try and take my Heisman away and I’ll bit#h slap your a$$ like all those GT folks do to you.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
12:09 pm
If ignorance is bliss, Huh? is the happiest person on the planet.
gt_blume
May 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm
Very interesting topic. I think a RB needs to be in the neighborhood of 2,000 yards (especially in this offence) to be in contention. The flip side of that coin is that if GT is 8-0 and carrying a high BCS ranking, someone from the offence needs to be in the Hiesman discussion.
If we do end up 8-0 it will either be because Dwyer is having a DOMINATING year or it means that the passing game is coming around and if that’s the case, Nesbitt may very be the one we are talking about in the fall.
gman
May 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm
Hey Ralph, if Tech played against Willie’s D more than once a year, we would have five or six Heisman candidates.
Reebok
May 22nd, 2009
12:21 pm
I’m a big Dwyer fan…I actually consider him a better running back than Knowshon Moreno (chill out, Dog fans, I’m entitled to an opinion)…but no way does Dwyer get anywhere near the Heisman unless several top-tier candidates get injured.
patrickr
May 22nd, 2009
12:23 pm
I think that it is a VERY long shot for Dwyer to win the Heisman. If GT mamages to have a great season (0 or 1) loss, than it is possible.
Dwyer’s chance of winning the Heisman really depends on the OL and nesbit’s performance this year. Opponents are going to be gunning to shut down dwyer. If nesbit stays healthy and is constantly the threat that he was in some games last year (boston college, VT, FSU, and miami), that will take a lot of the heat from the defense off of dwyer. But it needs to be a team effort to get him a Heisman.
Dwyer may get fewer percentage of touches this year due to depth in the backfield, but if we can cut back on fumbles his actual number touches may not decrease very much while is effectivness could go off the charts.
gt_blume
May 22nd, 2009
12:27 pm
O-line is a concern, but it was last year as well. It may not be a strength this year, but it will be improved.
Also, last year, teams were gunning to shut Dwyer down and he was ACC player of the year behind an O-line that was learning a completely new blocking technique. Recievers and A-backs will be blocking better downfield this year as well. Potential is there.
patrickr
May 22nd, 2009
12:28 pm
Another consideration is that if our backfield proves to have so much depth, CPJ may not pull Dwyer out of the games that we are winning big in. Dwyer didn’t even play the second of versus miami. If we have three or four games like that this year his stats could be much more impressive!
uknowme
May 22nd, 2009
12:28 pm
Huh? “Players from 8-4 teams do not win Heismans. This is a scientific fact” Scientific fact???? This explains a lot of your posts over the years. By the way, your 8-4 prediction is very valuable considering your “National Championship” prediction last year.
Mister T
May 22nd, 2009
12:36 pm
GradyGrad,
I was about to take that a bit further. It seems the Tech Blogger should likewise be photographed dressed in White & Gold and prominantly displayed.
What do you say Doug?
What’s The Good Word?!
USC
May 22nd, 2009
12:40 pm
What was Ron Dayne’s team record when he won the Heisman? Joe got robbed!!
GT B Smash
May 22nd, 2009
12:44 pm
The only way Dwyer wins is if he starts to return kicks and punts. The last pure back to win the Heisman was Ron Dayne 10 years ago. He ran for 1800plus yards and also broke the D1A career record for rushing yards. I love Dwyer, but the Heisman is a QB award.
William Casey
May 22nd, 2009
1:13 pm
TEAM success has a LOT to do with the Heisman winner these days. Joe Hamilton probably would have won the award his senior year had GT matched the 10-2 record of his junior year.
Baba O'Riley
May 22nd, 2009
1:24 pm
Death, taxes, and Huh? trolling the Tech blog.
Mike Harris
May 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm
All I can say is are you kidding me. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! HA HA HA. Dryer for Heisman. Thats to good.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm
I agree William Casey. Joe Hamilton would have won the Heisman if Ted Roofe wasn’t the defensive coordinator. It doesn’t do any good to score 42 points if the other teams are scoring 45 points.
Just ask Huh?
Clay
May 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm
I had never heard of this Moreno guy everyone keeps mentioning so I looked up his stats from last year. He had many more touches than Dwyer and less yards, plus he was way older than Dwyer. Moreno should have been a lot better…guess that’s why I had never heard of him. Dwyer is amazing, but the Heisman has become a quarterback award.
Ramblin Wreckers....
May 22nd, 2009
1:30 pm
Are you serious, Tech fans get a grip. In that silly offense….No way, he’ll get his 1000 yards because that’s all you can do in that offense is run but Tech’s overall record of 7-4 after that schedule will put things back in perspective. How bout them Dawgs….
Big GT Fan
May 22nd, 2009
1:34 pm
Love Dwyer but unless he raises it to another level (which I have no idea how he could) he won’t do better than possibly being at the #5 slot. Would love to see it happen though. Dwyer for 1500+ yards. Go.
PTC Jacket
May 22nd, 2009
1:42 pm
Doug, I like this blog, although I don’t think that Dwyer will get the hype he needs to get the Heisman.
First, that trophy seems to only be for quarterbacks.
Second, each runningback for Tech will have his “good game”. What I mean is that with the depth that Tech has in the backfield, I highly doubt that Dwyer will be the “star runningback” for every game. For example, I recall Roddy Jones being the star runningback in the UGA game, but Dwyer for the Miami game.
The chance of him getting the trophy this year depend too much on uncontrollable factors, but he has a much better chance next year when Tebow, Colt, and Bradford leave and IF Dwyer decides to stay for his senior year.
sidewalk74
May 22nd, 2009
1:42 pm
Not a chance. The media will make sure that a QB wins every year for the foreseeable future. I am almost positive he will not even be mentioned on ESPN as a candidate.
Baba O'Riley
May 22nd, 2009
1:43 pm
There could be some sentiment in the media (remember Charles Woodson) to try something new and give it to a RB. All those QBs may split the vote. Peyton Manning was robbed in that vote.
Jaded Jacket
May 22nd, 2009
1:47 pm
When Adrian Peterson played B-back at Georgia Southern for Paul Johnson he won the Walter Payton award (I-AA’s Heisman award) once. In fact, he was one of the top three vote getters for three straight years. Dwyer is certainly as talented as Peterson, but GSU didn’t have the number of weapons that Tech will have this year. A running back in Tech’s offense always has a good chance at winning a Heisman, but they need enough touches to have the opprotunity to register gaudy numbers in order to get noticed. In blow-out games last year, the best players were pulled, which happend a few times when Dwyer only played in the first half. He could have had much bigger numbers. I think the depth of talent will have the same effect on Dwyer’s touches as did being pulled from blow-outs.
BleedWhiteNGold
May 22nd, 2009
2:04 pm
Dwyer has the potent. to win the heisman depending on how a few things go. With now the amount of the depth we have in the backfield this year (at b-back especially) dwyer will get some chances to run some a-back which will allow him not only run the outside but catch out of the backfield as well, which he is very capable of doing, if he can gain enough all purpose yards and tech finishes in the top 8 or so in the end, he might have a shot. As PTC Jacket says the depth will also hender his ability to put up bigger numbers because we now have several play makers at each posistion – Dwyer,watson,allen,cox all at b-back and Wright,Jones,Peeples,(allen again), etc, at A-back. Dwyer might not get enough quality touches.
SEC
May 22nd, 2009
2:09 pm
Dwyer is as talented as Peterson!? Not a chance. I am a Dawg fan however i do think Dwyer is a complete back. And yes he ran all over us i know, a large part because of Willie Martinez. Its a shame that the running back position doesnt get as much attention as it should when the heisman talk comes up. Moreno was a very talented back but i think the reason he was in the talks was because of his “entertainment” factor. But to the tech fans…..welcome back. i’m glad we got this rivalry back
gtforever
May 22nd, 2009
2:19 pm
All I can say, Dwyer will be one of the BEST running backs in the country. The Heisman award is a popularity contest, who cares how these lame sports writers vote.
Huh?
May 22nd, 2009
2:19 pm
“I had never heard of this Moreno guy…”
Real big college football fan we’ve got on our hands here. He’s probably one of those empty seats at a Georgia Tech game.
“By the way, your 8-4 prediction is very valuable considering your “National Championship” prediction last year.”
That’s a decent point, except for the part where I did not make any type of “National Championship” prediction last year and haven’t the slightest clue what the hell you are talking about. But you got me big guy. Sure thing.
Justin "By golly" Vess
May 22nd, 2009
2:25 pm
I tell all of you, Dwyer is the best running back of all time. He’s big, fast, hard nose, and cute. I would take him over anyone. Moreno was my guy, until Dwyer. He will go pro after next year.
Go Dawgs
Joey
May 22nd, 2009
2:41 pm
I agree, Dwyer is a hunky of a man football player. Yummy!
richard cranium
May 22nd, 2009
2:45 pm
Leghumpers have NEVER let facts get in the way of a good, over-hyped season of football….
C’ mon.
Clay
May 22nd, 2009
2:46 pm
Huh?,
I am a real college football fan, probably more so than you. So what if I’ve never heard of Moreno? I noticed you had no response to the facts I mentioned comparing the statistics of Moreno and Dwyer. It’s always a great way to stupefy U(sic)GA fans…just bring up the facts.
Greg
May 22nd, 2009
2:46 pm
Justin, do you think Cox is cute too?
Jaded Jacket
May 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm
OMG! I think this blog has been invaded by guys who watch football for other reasons.
tech duh
May 22nd, 2009
3:10 pm
anything is definetly possible since there hasnt been a repeat in a long time so that takes out bradford and tebow hasnt deserved one but has one so he wont win again mccoy is the easy favorite to win this year but think of how many 20+ yard runs dwyer had last year with the defense stacking the box knowing tech only had one reciever to throw to now with three people that can catch a ball (corey earls thats why your now on defense) dwyer now only has to run against a base defense that also has to be more careful about the outside with faster runners on the perimeter dwyer at best can get 1600 yards and at worst will get 1200 so dont count out thunder thighs
tommy
May 22nd, 2009
3:27 pm
I think he is good enough. There is not a question about that. He will have to have a breakaway year where he has scores alot more touchdowns and continues to have alot of home runs. His team needs to also go to a major bowl game. For all that to happen the passing game needs to be a little better and the blocking alot better. With all that said I think he would have a better shot if he stays his senior year.
Too Easy
May 22nd, 2009
3:29 pm
Clay Aiken, is that you? One thing’s for certain: Willie White won’t be a jackette candidate for Heisman.
Wreck7
May 22nd, 2009
3:31 pm
SEC: Even CPJ said once that he has never had a back like Dwyer. I somehow doubt he forgot about Peterson. He was a fine back but he wasn’t as big or fast as Jon Diesel.
HUH?: Tebow won the Heisman on a 9-4 team. So it can’t happen with an 8-4 squad but boy if you get one more win, you’re guaranteed… RIIIIIIIIGHT.
Dwyer won’t win the Heisman but he will be a top 10 candidate.
DiamondJim
May 22nd, 2009
4:17 pm
Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy will be hard to beat.
He needs to stay healthy and gain 2100 yards. He needs 3 long runs on UGA on TV. Also needs few big games in the ACC. Tech needs to win 10 games, possible not likely. 30-1 odds at best
Boss Hogg
May 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm
Huh? : Once again you show your ignorance. Paul Hornung won the 1956 Heisman when Notre Dame went 2-8. Tim Brown won the Heisman with an 8-4 Notre Dame team in 1987.
Huh?
May 22nd, 2009
5:01 pm
Thanks for the ancient history lessons on the Heisman Techies. Here’s a newsflash for you: You are NOT the Florida Gators. Thus, if your team goes 9-4 nobody on it will be winning any Heismans. I’d bet my life savings on it. You are the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets and nobody respects you enough to give a player from a 9-4 team a Heisman. Cry about it. Its what you do best.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
5:08 pm
Huh? bets his his life savings?
I don’t think anybody on here needs or wants your collection of Billy Beer.
GT
May 22nd, 2009
5:24 pm
I have said before in this blog I wondered how you keep this guy a secret yet other schools make their stars sound like superman only to go to the pros and never to be heard of again. How did Manning at Tennessee not win the Heisman or some other’s win it over guys like this? College football if you are a born southerner is the greatest sport in the world, but it has one flaw and that is bias reporters and not winning the national championship on the field. What I like about Paul Johnson none of that matters. We here for one thing and he makes that very clear and that is to kick the other teams ass. Still it would be nice to see the home of the guy they named the damn thing after win it at least once.
Baba O'Riley
May 22nd, 2009
5:29 pm
Huh? proved wrong again by facts.
Hal Vernon
May 22nd, 2009
5:43 pm
Huh?, the reference about not being familiar with Moreno was a knock against Moreno saying he didn’t know who Dwyer was before Dwyer ran wild over UGa’s defense. Please tell me you aren’t that stupid.
SEC
May 22nd, 2009
5:47 pm
Clay- u say your a college football fan but have never heard of moreno? He was one of the top backs in the draft and made several highlights. I’m not a Tech fan but believe me i know who dwyer is. Stupefy? hmmmmm. As for the stats of the two, UGA had a more balanced offense we just couldnt stop anybody. Did Tim Tebow have more passing yards than Bradford of Mccoy? No. So you tell me where those stats come into play. The simple thing is if Dwyer wants to be mentioned for the heisman GT has to get national media attention. Beating us last year was a good start. The only problem is the ACC has fallen off a bit. Can anyone name the last ACC player in the running for the heisman besides Matt Ryan?
HEY HUH
May 22nd, 2009
5:48 pm
hey huh news flash here for you! nobody respects anyteam proffesional or college in this state! Hawks, braves, falcons, UGA, Tech! snap your self back into reality! The dawgs and jackets are in the same boat buddy
GTFan478
May 22nd, 2009
5:53 pm
i love dwyer tp death but no way in hell he wins it the media will look at cpj’s system and say no just cause its a run friendly offense and another reason is because its gonna take a lot from nesbit actualy hitting his receivers down field more than twice a game for dwyer to win its not gonna happen not with our o-line and nesbit at qb i now i prob pissed a bunch of yall off but thats my opinion tech wont be as good as they can be til nesbits gone
HEY SEC
May 22nd, 2009
5:53 pm
Calvin Johnson was in the mix one year but he didnt have a qb! i know joe hamilton came in second behind ricky williams….im sure theres more i just cant think of them! Have to do a lil research
SEC
May 22nd, 2009
6:03 pm
Calvin Johnson def should of won it if he had a qb. The last ACC player to win was chris weinke and Vick placed 3rd in 1999. Thats as much as i know on that. If the ACC got stronger then GT victories will carry more weight and get the attention. The question isnt can yall win the ACC its how strong is the ACC
GT GRAD
May 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm
The consistently negative attacking comments from Mr. Huh? are starting to get old; he sounds like the “sterotypical UGA Fan” which gives UGA a bad name. Most of these guys have no idea how much they hurt the UGA football team and are not aware that many avid college football fans have developed a distain towards UGA fans due to people like Mr. Huh?. My wife and MANY of my close friends are die-hard UGA fans, but most of them are reasonable and none of them fit the “stereotypical UGA Fan” mold. Mr. Huh? seems to be ignorant or has decided to ignore any and all facts which do not support his delusional world. We all have biased opinions, but he is obviously blinded by his biased opinions (very inflated opinion regarding UGA & very negative opinion of all things GT).
I say grow up, get a life and try to post a few comments which benefit the various blog participants OR post your comments on the UGA blogs. I do not post comments on the UGA blogs. I try to keep my posts on topic and attempt to stay positive most of the time; however, I will admit there are times (like now) when I get tired of reading the same old negative ranting and unfair GT bashing from the same UGA fan bloggers.
Have a great weekend!
Go GT!
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm
SEC…The ACC has 3 Heisman trophy winners since ‘88, the SEC has two…so what’s your point.
http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/heisman/heisman_trophy_winners.htm
SEC ignorance is something else.
HEY SEC
May 22nd, 2009
6:15 pm
the ACC is pretty strong every year! But they dont get the attention everybody else does! im pretty sure the ACC had the best out of conference record in division 1 last year including a 6-4 regular season record against the SEC!
Clemson 1-1 (Alabama loss, South Carolina win)
Duke 1-0 (Vanderbilt)
Florida St. (0-1) (Florida)
Georgia Tech (2-0) (Mississippi St., Georgia)
Miami (0-1) (Florida)
NC State (0-1) (South Carolina)
Wake Forest (2-0) (Ole Miss, Vanderbilt)
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
6:15 pm
Call it 2 ACC winners since Miami wasn’t in the ACC then
FL DAWG
May 22nd, 2009
6:22 pm
Two things to consider, 1) his O-line will need great blocking the entire season as he will need to up his production to a minimum of 1500 yds and 20+ TDs, 2) He needs big highlights (like hurdling a player) to get the exposure. Neither is a knock on Dwyer, he is a very solid back, he just has to have the stats and exposure. IMO, he doesn’t have a shot this year with media darlings of Tebow, Bradford, McCoy returning. He is a longshot for top 5, he has to improve for top 10.
SEC
May 22nd, 2009
6:26 pm
Ramble- The point was that the ACC has fallen back due to strenght as of recent. Not 88. Ignorance has nothing to do with it. Im actually in support of dwyer and im not bashing Tech. As you can see from HEY SEC is the only ACC with a quality win against the SEC was Tech. If you wanna talk about ignorance, actually read my comments before you respond. I know you won a national championship in 1990. I’m not the type of Dawg fan that always goes back to the 80’s.
GTFan478
May 22nd, 2009
6:31 pm
sec while you say weve fallen back (being the acc) if im not mistaken wasnt the acc a better conference last than the sec and wasnt the acc considered the no.2 conference behind the big 12 while the sec was 4th or 5th with only 2 really good teams 2 decent and the rest were just god awful last year so whos fallen off
SEC
May 22nd, 2009
6:37 pm
Actually thats completely false the GTfan. I really hope not all GT fans claim you. Even though GT beat us we were only a 3 loss team.
GTFan478
May 22nd, 2009
6:42 pm
actually thats true look it up the acc had something called parity last year we only had 2 or 3 teams tops at 500 or worse what about the sec 5 or 6 wasnt it look it up the acc was better last year than the all mighty sec get over and what does gt beating ugay have to do with this im talking about out of conference schedualing in confrence competivness which the sec had none of and the acc was full of look it up if you dont believe dont let the facts cloud your judgement the sec isnt what it used to be get over it and look it up
Jimbo
May 22nd, 2009
6:43 pm
QBs usually win it, and a QB will win the Heisman this year for sure.
Dwyer could make the top 10 but not the top 5.
Brewer
May 22nd, 2009
6:48 pm
FL Dawg is right, Jon Dwyer is a very solid back. But with the depth that GT will have in the backfield I think his total number of yards will go down due to lack of touches. Coach Johnson is way more concerned about winning football games then wooing the turds in the media. Also, to win a Heisman in modern college football, you need to have a good year, get the media hyping you up all off season and then a stellar year after that to live up to what they’ve build you up to be. Probably helps your case if you are going to play a bunch of games on ESPN as Heisman-Hype helps their bottom line. Impossible for Jon this year, slight chance next year.
Paddy
May 22nd, 2009
6:51 pm
SEC.. Dwyer is going to be so much better than Adrian Peterson when he finally turns pro. Petterson can’t get off the bench to even be a factor in an NFL game. Dwyer was player of the year in Div 1. And that is not to take away from Peterson’s award in 1 AA. Hate to disagree with you on this SEC.
Paul
May 22nd, 2009
6:51 pm
The first question is “Will Ga Tech spend the money to promote Dwyer in the media?”. If we do, like we promoted the ‘96 games,with astounding showmanship, of course he can make it. Have a rushing season like last years, coupled with catching a few passes inthe expanded triple option; on a team that might go undefeated, and there you have it. The Heisman!
SEC
May 22nd, 2009
6:57 pm
The reason i mentioned it GTfan was to give credit where credit is due, but obviously you havent learned how to take that yet. Everyone knows the SEC is the most dominate conf. The last 3 national titles kinda give that away. I was on here to support you boy dwyer but then there are idiots like you who have lost their mind because u had a winning season and you finally got a good coach
Drexel Gal
May 22nd, 2009
7:20 pm
If Joe Hamilton couldn’t win the Heisman, neither can Dwyer.
GTFan478
May 22nd, 2009
7:27 pm
just because their are good teams that win in conferences doesnt make that conference great look at usc and the pac10 look at ohio state and their conference and how is saying the acc is falling back a compliment get it out your head the sec as a whole is not that good look at the last 3 nc’s for proof they were won by 2 teams not 3 their are only a couple of good teams in the sec its not great as a whole which is what i was sayin look at last year 5 teams over 500 not good at at all compared to 7 or 8 over 500 you idiot
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
7:48 pm
Everyone knows the SEC is the most dominate conf.?LOL
…6-6 vs. ACC doesn’t sound dominate…does it?
I mean wouldn’t dominate be something like 11-5 or 12-4…hmmm I just don’t think 6-6 is very dominate.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
7:50 pm
whoops, bad math…8-4, 9-3 sounds dominate. maybe
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 22nd, 2009
7:52 pm
love these fleabags riding UF coat tails…sprinkle in a LSU and the SEC is the most dominate conference in the history of the universe.
DOMINATE…LMAO!!!!
BS Patrol
May 22nd, 2009
8:10 pm
What everyone doesn’t know is the SEC is not the dominant conference. The last 3 MNC’s only go to show that the conference is top heavy. This myth of the SEC must be dispelled. BTW, Tech hasn’t had a losing season since 1996 as I recall.
I do like to watch Dwyer get into an opponent”s secondary with a nice head of steam.
SEC
May 22nd, 2009
8:13 pm
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/8819383/
SugarHillDawg
May 22nd, 2009
8:38 pm
Ramble On, trying to reason with you is like trying to herd cats! Just one question, who has won the NC the past THREE years??? An ACC team won’t win til after I give up the oxygen habit you basement denizen!!
gtfanfrom1951
May 22nd, 2009
8:50 pm
JD is the best back in college football. But it will be hard to beat Tebow but it can be done….can you say Mississippi
BS Patrol
May 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm
Above ESPN link simply proves that the SEC has more rabid football fans than any other conference. I would not care to argue that point.
Rick
May 22nd, 2009
9:11 pm
I think Dwyer would take a NC over a Heisman anyday………… GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GM
May 22nd, 2009
9:54 pm
No way. He won’t have the stats.
GT GRAD
May 22nd, 2009
9:59 pm
Running backs can win the Heisman, but it seems like the QB has a huge advantage (unfortunate). Dwyer’s best chance of winning the Heisman will be in 2010; he will need to have a great 2009 season and he will need to stay at GT for a chance at the Heisman (rather than going to the NFL). The sad truth is that the modern Heisman trophy almost requires two consecutive stellar seasons for a player to win. Maybe he will stay and win the Heisman and possibly help GT win another NC!!
The future of the GT Football team is so freak’n bright!
I am ready for some College Football. GT is VERY fortunate to have Coach PJ.
poopdawg
May 22nd, 2009
10:06 pm
I think Dwyer may be the best back in the country next year and defintely should be a Heisman candidate. Problem may be the publicity already received by the big 3 qbs, Tebow , Mccoy and Bradford. Dwyer was argubly the best back last year. But i do not see Tech’s record improving next year. Last year for Tech was truly a storybook season. Alot of things went tech’s way in several of their close wins. I know Tech will be much deeper , but the future qb injuries , and tougher schedule will have tech finishing around 6-6.
Robert
May 22nd, 2009
10:10 pm
Dwyer is a very talented back but don’t think he has a chance with the big 3 QBs this year.
gtforever
May 22nd, 2009
10:46 pm
poopdawg, I think 6-6 is a stretch, but this years schedule will be a whole lot tougher. I’m thinking 7-5, 8-4. We will see, if the defense stinks it up again this year you could be right!
Fo Real
May 22nd, 2009
11:03 pm
Since a QB HAS to win it, maybe GT’s QB will sneak in and get the Heisman…….what’s his name again?
GT Boss
May 22nd, 2009
11:06 pm
Paul, GT will spend the money on media promotion when we can actually fill up more than half our stadium. Which is never.
Tokyo jacket
May 22nd, 2009
11:30 pm
SEC, thanks for being a reasonable blogger. I appreciate when the other side uses real information in posts not just stupid bias.
A lot of things have to happen for Dwyer:
1. 11 wins or more, must have 14 games played.
2. Other stars for GT must emerge – I know this sounds counterintuitive, but every Heisman since 02 (I stopped looking there) has played with at least one, but frequently two or three first round picks.
3. YPC has to go up (I think it will) because touches will go down. Probably needs to be around 8.0 for serious contention.
4. Wow factor/play. I’ve said since his freshman year, he looks like Hershell Walker. He needs the run over two guys at once play. Must continue/increase home run threat.
5. Needs to score more, and it would help if it were catching passes.
6. Draft stock needs to go up. If he’s a top ten pick, then he’s a top 10 candidate.
7. GT’s points per game needs to go up. If we score 40 a game (like w/ Joe), he gets on Sports Center and Game Day more.
Also, here’s some interesting factors that could really affect the season for Dwyer:
1. More speed/talent on the outside this year could only put 7 in the box instead of 8 or 9, leaving more room for Dwyer up the middle.
2. O-line, don’t need to say more.
3. Does better special teams and or D give us a shorter field leading to more points per yard gained for GT? Look up past Heisman winners and you’ll see their teams have high points per yard ratios. That means they have better defenses, special teams, and more home runs.
Sorry about the novel.
Sled Dog
May 22nd, 2009
11:42 pm
OUR STADIUM IS SO BIIIIGGGG!!!
Tokyo jacket
May 22nd, 2009
11:44 pm
One more thing…QBs are winning because QBs are getting the yards/points these days. That’s not to say RBs can’t get it but that they’re not doing as much in today’s “modern” offenses. Since GT runs an “outdated, high school offense” that will lead the nation in rushing that argument should go out the window.
The lone advantage Dwyer will have is that he plays in the toughest defensive conference statistically 6 in top 29 PPG and 7 in top 25 YPG. Of course some homers will say that’s because we have a weak conference. But, I respond that we had the best OOC record in the nation last year. So, we needn’t have that argument.
Sled Dog
May 23rd, 2009
12:26 am
We always have a great game plan(score more than 50)but we just can’t execute!
Bulldawg
May 23rd, 2009
1:37 am
Because he will FLUNK-OUT like ALL the other Georgia Tech “student-ATHLETES.”
Baba O'Riley
May 23rd, 2009
6:39 am
Bulldawg…why are you on Tech’s blog @ 1:37 on a Saturday morning???
UGASUX
May 23rd, 2009
7:38 am
Huh?…Dwyer is a much better running back than Moreno…so I think he has a shot at the top 3.
KG
May 23rd, 2009
7:41 am
Sugerhill Douche, when are you picking up my trash?
JT
May 23rd, 2009
8:51 am
2009 score
GT 35
uga 6
cometkz
May 23rd, 2009
9:35 am
SEC thinks Adrian Peterson is better than Dwyer????? He is a 3rd string back on a team desperate for running backs. Maybe you just don’t like GT players, hummm.
michael
May 23rd, 2009
9:49 am
can we just stick to the TEAM concept and win all the games and piss the media (outside of the south) off.
huh?1?
May 23rd, 2009
10:10 am
If you think Tech is only going to win 8 games YOUR smoking crack.
What makes UGAG think they can beat CPJ? You had the argueably the most talent has ever had during his tenure at UGAG last year (#1pick/#12pick) yet still gets BEAT AT HOME BY THEIR RIVAL UNDERDOG IN CPJ”S FIRST YEAR.
Paddy
May 23rd, 2009
10:19 am
Dwyer won’t win but top 5 is reasonable.
SEC
May 23rd, 2009
10:29 am
yeah i think that he was, just my opinion. It has nothing to do with me hating tech players. These are just kids playing football and getting an education. I am a dawg fan first, but a football fan 2nd. Uga has always had problems with that style of offense. Even when we played southern they would hang around for awhile until around late 3rd quarter. Whenever we go up against that style of offense its like willie martinez is a deer in headlights. Enjoy your time until we get rid of him
Cedric
May 23rd, 2009
10:47 am
lol
Veteran Fan
May 23rd, 2009
11:20 am
Jonathan has the intangibles (heart and competitive fire)! He is the best player in college football and it should be a horserace with Tebow. The other candidates schedules are loaded with CUPCAKES so if Jonathan performs well on the early TV games and the team is better and wins, he should be the front runner! Forget the stats, it is about leadership and wins so this is why I say it is Tebow and Dwyer and it may come down to the championship game with them going head to head! Unfortunately, I think the vote will already be in!
DawginLex
May 23rd, 2009
1:25 pm
To win a Heisman, you have to be the dominant player at your position and your team must win its conference and compete for the national title or at least seriously be in the discussion. Dwyer won’t dominate the RB’s around the country. GT won’t win the ACC. GT won’t be in the national title discussion.
Case closed.
David M
May 23rd, 2009
2:30 pm
Quit blaming Willie for the Tech game. He came out with a good game plan-shifting from a 4-3 to a 4-4. In fact, we shut em down (12 pts including a pick 6 from Burnette) in the first half. We only had 2 safeties who had practiced for the new scheme and one of them(Bryan Evans) injured the arch in his foot on his first series. Rashad got completely gassed, probably ran three miles. And I tip my hat to the Tech players for not giving up. Dwyer is a very good back but he probably won’t have the numbers to win the Heisman.
Jack P
May 23rd, 2009
2:53 pm
Who?
Paddy
May 23rd, 2009
2:56 pm
SEC… I respect your opinion. His accomplishment at Ga So are legendary and many stats will never be broken. A tip of the cap to both players.
Absolutely
May 23rd, 2009
4:50 pm
Dwyer can and will absolutely be in the Heisman discussion. Everyone likes to argue that he has sick yards because of all the touches he gets, but if you compare his number of carries to other teams, he’s just like any other tailback. Dwyer was #3 (2 above #4) in carries in the ACC last year (87 behind Evans of VT; the #2 in yards by 130)- it’s his yards per that’s sick and why he’ll be in the discussion. He absolutely owned NoShow in every category if you compare sophmore years and is absolutely more talented. Just wait for this year…
macrotech
May 23rd, 2009
5:43 pm
i don’t think it unreasonable, that dwyer would get some consideration for the award. however, it has become more of a ‘glamour’ award than anything. quarterbacks seem to be in the lime light and i would consider dwyer more of a work horse. he’ll get his opportunities to do something with the ball, but he’ll be one of many options each and every play…he’ll do well, but he’d have to do something extraordinary to garner true consideration. personally, i’m ALL for a Tech player to get it! i’d RATHER win out the season and let the awards fall where they may. either way, i am stoked about this upcoming season! the more we win, the less we’ll see dog fans on our blogs…with a few obvious exceptions, of course. GO TECH!!!
GT computer nerd with UGA boss
May 23rd, 2009
6:23 pm
I hope we don’t play LSU in 2009 since they totally shut down dwyer and our 1932 triple option offense….
Baba O'Riley
May 23rd, 2009
6:40 pm
The above poster is living off of LSU’s win since UGA couldn’t “finish the drill”.
Assistant Chef @ Mickey D's
May 23rd, 2009
7:47 pm
I hope we don’t play Al or UF or GT who all totally humiliated our #1 ranked team on national TV.
Tech Fan?
May 23rd, 2009
8:15 pm
Finish in the top 10 and maybe, just maybe, he slides into top 5 talk. I love how Tech has 1 average year and everyone thinks they are the team to beat. Don’t feed me all the crap about players to fit the system and all that huey puey. Fact is, you ain’t getting a better B back than him coming while CPJ is at Tech. Face it guys, if year two is as average as year 1, the moron who fakes a punt from his own 30 with a DE running the ball in the first half will be hailed a coaching genius and bolt for another school with easier academic standards. How many times have you guys beat Georgia in the 2000’s? Idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUHAHAHAHA!
BS Patrol
May 23rd, 2009
8:37 pm
Tech Fan?, Tech has four backs now better that GA’s top back(whoever that turns out to be). You have not had a back except Herschel EVER who is as good as Dwyer. This year you may not have as good a record as AU. And that’s BAD. Suffer Toad!
Not Disappointed
May 23rd, 2009
8:37 pm
Dwyer is an excellent Running Back. I give him the top 5! Ramble Wreck!
Not Disappointed
May 23rd, 2009
8:37 pm
Enter your comments here
GT Rich
May 23rd, 2009
9:14 pm
Ask Colt Brennan or Graham Harrell about Dwyer’s chances? I am a Tech fan, but the media sees this offense as a gimmick, just as they do Hawaii and Texas Tech. Those QBs dominated in passing yards and TDs in their careers, but never could get runner up let alone the actual Heisman. GT would need to go 13-0 and Dwyer would need to break the single season rushing record to get invited to NY. A few early season bulldozer runs on Sportscenter would also help get the hype going….
DawginLex
May 24th, 2009
7:52 am
Not had as good a back as Dwyer since Herschel? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did you stick your finger in the electrical socket while playing your video games ?
UGA SUX
May 24th, 2009
8:06 am
I agree with BS Patrol. Tech probably has the best set of running backs in the Country. They will prove it in the upcoming year…also our air attack will be much improved, although we will not need it very much because of our running game.
Hey DawginLex, get me my fries and coke.
BS Patrol
May 24th, 2009
8:21 am
I didn’t say since Herschel, I said EVER!
m
May 24th, 2009
8:47 am
The two best backs on the field last November at sanford and son stadium were named Dwyer and Roddy Jones. NOshow moreno was not even a factor.
Also, it is a complete falacy that lsu shut down the option in the chikfila bowl. Both teams had around 300 yards. Where lsu beat tech was special teams and that is being corrected.
Thanks to God and Greyhound, the future is so bright at Tech that we all need to wear shades. You idiotic dawgs are really gonna miss chan gomer gailey…but he is long gone.
Technite
May 24th, 2009
10:12 am
Prediction, next year Tech beats UGA for 2 in a row. Then in some low level Bowl game Tech embarrasses the school and the ACC (again) to the tune of 38-3 or worse on national TV. Heisman players/teams don’t disgrace themselves on national TV just before the Heisman vote. Dwyer is good but won’t even be among the finalist. Not a lot of 4 loss teams (5 if you count the next year Bowl disgrace) get Heisman mention for any of their players.
Erk
May 24th, 2009
10:32 am
Tech’s offense was sloppy last year and still beat Georgia. Just imagine what they will do this year, now that they have a full offseason under CPJ. The Jackets are going to be THE story in college football this year. I think they will go undefeated and win the ACC championship game. Unfortunately, BCS bias will keep GT from playing for a national championship, leaving Tech to play and defeat Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl.
pensacola dawg
May 24th, 2009
10:39 am
OMG they beat UGA one time in eight years and now they have a Heisman Back…better than Moreno. WOW, what next CPJ for president????
Brewer
May 24th, 2009
11:50 am
I’ll take UGA’s defenders bouncing off Jon Dwyer and Roddy Jones like BBs off a battle tank over Moreno hurdling 3rd tier football players everyday. That same “ESPN Face Time” mentality is a lot of what’s wrong with UGA’s defense. That stuff works on a Chan Gailey team, not a Paul Johnson team.
Absolutely
May 24th, 2009
11:58 am
Let’s compare Dwyer and NoShown from sophmore years shall we. There’s just no comparison for all you who think NoShow is even in the same league as Dwyer. You can’t argue with stats as much as your red tinted glasses may want you to.
NAME CAR YDS YPC LONG TD
Jonathan Dwyer, Ga Tech 200 1395 7.0 88 12
Knowshon Moreno, Georgia 248 1336 5.4 80 14
Hell, even look at last year. NoShow got more TDs because he was utilized on the goalline more than GT needed to use Dwyer because of the A-Back sweep, but the YPC are nowhere close.
Knowshon Moreno, Georgia 250 1400 5.6 68 16
Technite
May 24th, 2009
1:03 pm
“Absolutely”
Give me a puff of that stuff. You think Dwyer will be a first round draft pick? You gotta be kidding. We beat UGA by 3 points and now we think we are “world beaters”? LSU showed us what a typical game against a mid-level SEC team is like. We got lucky against UGA for once in 8 years and now we got a Heisman winner? Remember the 38-3 embarrassment against LSU? That was reality. We will have at least 4 losses when we beat UGA again this year but Dwyer will never be able to carry Moreno’s jock. We are building, but one lucky win over UGA is a long way from us being really significant nationally.
AtomicEagle
May 24th, 2009
1:25 pm
Dear Huh,
Your life savings, huh? 22 one-dollar bills, an old can of snuff, a doq-eared Readers Digest, and 17 cans of Similac.
You are da high-rolling dude, Mr. Huh.
Iceman
May 24th, 2009
1:26 pm
Always good to get a laugh from the Tech folks.
joseph
May 24th, 2009
3:47 pm
top 5 GO GT go Dwyer
Starship Enterprise strikes back
May 24th, 2009
3:57 pm
Pensacola Dawg,
It’s not that we just beat UGA one time in eight years it’s that we RUSHED FOR 408 YARDS AND TOTALLY KICKED YOUR A$$ IN YOUR OWN YARD AFTER SPOTTINMG YOUR TWO TOUCHDOWNS AT HALFTIME AND YOU GUYS ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP THE TRIPLE OPTION. IT HAS CALCULUS IN IT AND FEW PEOPLE AT GEORGIA CAN SPELL IT MUCH LESS PASS IT LIKE ALL OF OUR STUDENT ATHLETES MUST. LOL 45-42. get used to it.
BS Patrol
May 24th, 2009
5:07 pm
AtomicEagle, You left out his most valuable asset. A 1980 NC commemorative 6-pack.
Absolutely
May 24th, 2009
5:34 pm
Technite- I absolutely think Dwyer will be a first round draft pick. He was picked as the #1 or #2 RB by NFL scouts after the season (for 2010) with CJ Spiller. So yes, that sounds like a first rounder to me. Show me another back that has the same speed and size as Dwyer and puts up those stats.
DawginLex
May 24th, 2009
6:20 pm
UGASUX,
Considering how “smart” all of you think you are, it would seem you could come up with something different than get me fries and a coke. Maybe you are only as smart as I think you are, which is not very………………………………
gtforever
May 24th, 2009
6:55 pm
m, We scored 3 points against LSU. Yes, our special teams sucked, but so did our offense and our defense. Come on, think about what you write before you hit “enter” Jeez, talking about being a homer!
BUZZ
May 24th, 2009
7:16 pm
Class versus Crass
This just in: Georgia Tech will host yet another NCAA Baseball Regional and the University of Georgia will NOT.
Other regional sites: Arizona State, UC Irvine, Cal State Fullerton, Clemson, East Carolina, Florida, Florida State, LSU, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rice, Texas, and TCU.
Another 45-42 in my opinion.
Not Disappointed
May 24th, 2009
8:32 pm
Georgia Tech will be better this year, along with Dyer, Jones, Nesbit, etc!! Dwyer is a top 5 and the season hasn’t started! “Be afraid! Very afraid!” Ramblin Wreck!
Not Disappointed
May 24th, 2009
8:34 pm
excuse the spelling Dwyer! “Go Jackets!
GT
May 26th, 2009
4:22 pm
Dwyer won’t win the Heisman. But I wouldn’t trade him for any player in the nation for what Tech does. Tebow may be the best college player ever, but Dwyer helps Tech more than Tebow would. Dwyer is basically Michael Turner. He is the complete running back, no matter what offense he plays in. He can run over people, bang it up the middle, and hit the outside with break away speed. CPJ is lucky to have him.
Kevin
June 2nd, 2009
5:54 am
Dwyer for Heisman oh my a great laugh there he no match for flordia tebow he win his 2nd hiesman oh wait win let GT play floridia here oh no can’t then we show all awful dwyer n the ACC with a Tebow would pass for 4 touchdowns rush for 2 in a 51-0score!
Kevin
June 2nd, 2009
5:57 am
this just in GT will host stayin home again from Omaha again….hey we stayin home to so its okay…at least we did win College world series in 1990 even though u folks at Tech and the AJC still do not care to remember it.