Dwyer for the Heisman….why not?

It’s one of those oddities that no player from Georgia Tech has ever won the Heisman Trophy, named for one of the Jackets’ greatest coaches, John Heisman.

As you know, Heisman coached Tech from 1904-1919 and led the Golden Tornado, as Tech was nicknamed then, to 33 consecutive wins.

Could this year snap the 74-year streak?

Could Jonathan Dwyer bring the Heisman Trophy to Atlanta?

The credentials are obvious: 2008 ACC Player of the Year, 107.3 yards per game rushing average from his B-back spot, 1,395 rushing yards overall last season.

This after just one season in coach Paul Johnson’s offense.

Just think what could be accomplished in Year 2.

The competition will be tough: Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy will likely top everyone’s lists of favorites.

And, throw in the possibility that Dwyer’s stats may not be as good as they were last year. Why? Because Tech has a lot of players who figure to get a lot of touches this year. So, while Dwyer’s stats could theoretically go down a bit, his impact could still be as, well, impactful (I work with words you know).

The campaign gets going early: Jacksonville State followed by national TV games against Clemson and Miami, followed by North Carolina, Mississippi State, Florida State and Virginia Tech.

I think if Tech can make it through that tough stretch, and Dwyer gets his 100 yards a game, it’ll be tough to keep him off the top 5 favorites.

And please don’t discuss how Johnson’s offense is geared toward the rushing game so of course he’s going to have great stats. That’s a silly argument, especially considering the three favorites listed above. Those offenses are also geared toward their skills, just as Dwyer’s skills are utilized best in Johnson’s offense.

So, what do you think?

Who are your Heisman favorites?

Should Dwyer be listed among the top 10, the top 5, the top 3?

145 comments Add your comment

#1 TechFan

May 22nd, 2009
11:28 am

Top 10, AT BEST!
No Heisman for him this year.

Chris

May 22nd, 2009
11:30 am

I’ll take Dwyer over any running back in the country, but aint no way the media gives him the Heisman. Not over the 3 you mentioned. Would love to see it though.

TechDan

May 22nd, 2009
11:36 am

Top Five sounds realistic, but no way he gets in the top 3 when McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford are still around. He could stay another year and win it once they’re all gone though, especially if he stays consistent.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 22nd, 2009
11:38 am

I think you’re on to something Doug.

He won’t be on the list because GT doesn’t hype their players the way they should. We just walk the walk. He should be in the top ten though.

Contrast that with the 2nd best college football team in Georgia who thinks hurdling a Central Michigan State Technical Trade School 2nd team defensive back is worthy of the honor.

He won’t be on the list, but 2010 has Josh (Robot) Nesbitt in the top 3.

Huh?

May 22nd, 2009
11:39 am

Its not a silly argument. You plug even an average college running back in to that offense and he will gain 1,000 yards on the season guaranteed barring injury. If guys like Moreno and Wells couldn’t crack the Heisman discussion last year there is no way in hell a B-back in Johnson’s system will do it, not with Tebow, Bradford, and McCoy returning. Dumb blog Doug.

Plus Dwyer’s team will have to do alot better than the 8-4 record that I predict for them next year. Players from 8-4 teams do not win Heismans. This is a scientific fact. Have a great day Techies.

Baba O'Riley

May 22nd, 2009
11:49 am

If only Dwyer could play Willie’s defense more than once a year….

GradyGrad96

May 22nd, 2009
11:56 am

Nice read sir. Just out of curiosity, why is the Junkyard Blawger shown with a thumbnail picture on the left of the main sports screen and not the Tech blogger?

Chris

May 22nd, 2009
11:57 am

Ever notice how Dwyer does’nt look like he’s running that fast but nobody ever catches him from behind.

Ralph

May 22nd, 2009
12:02 pm

Hey Baba, if Tech played against Willie’s defense more than once a year, Roddy Jones wins the Heisman hands down.

patrickr

May 22nd, 2009
12:05 pm

Much better blog today Doug!

Paul Hourning

May 22nd, 2009
12:06 pm

Huh? you try and take my Heisman away and I’ll bit#h slap your a$$ like all those GT folks do to you.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 22nd, 2009
12:09 pm

If ignorance is bliss, Huh? is the happiest person on the planet.

gt_blume

May 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm

Very interesting topic. I think a RB needs to be in the neighborhood of 2,000 yards (especially in this offence) to be in contention. The flip side of that coin is that if GT is 8-0 and carrying a high BCS ranking, someone from the offence needs to be in the Hiesman discussion.

If we do end up 8-0 it will either be because Dwyer is having a DOMINATING year or it means that the passing game is coming around and if that’s the case, Nesbitt may very be the one we are talking about in the fall.

gman

May 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm

Hey Ralph, if Tech played against Willie’s D more than once a year, we would have five or six Heisman candidates.

Reebok

May 22nd, 2009
12:21 pm

I’m a big Dwyer fan…I actually consider him a better running back than Knowshon Moreno (chill out, Dog fans, I’m entitled to an opinion)…but no way does Dwyer get anywhere near the Heisman unless several top-tier candidates get injured.

patrickr

May 22nd, 2009
12:23 pm

I think that it is a VERY long shot for Dwyer to win the Heisman. If GT mamages to have a great season (0 or 1) loss, than it is possible.

Dwyer’s chance of winning the Heisman really depends on the OL and nesbit’s performance this year. Opponents are going to be gunning to shut down dwyer. If nesbit stays healthy and is constantly the threat that he was in some games last year (boston college, VT, FSU, and miami), that will take a lot of the heat from the defense off of dwyer. But it needs to be a team effort to get him a Heisman.

Dwyer may get fewer percentage of touches this year due to depth in the backfield, but if we can cut back on fumbles his actual number touches may not decrease very much while is effectivness could go off the charts.

gt_blume

May 22nd, 2009
12:27 pm

O-line is a concern, but it was last year as well. It may not be a strength this year, but it will be improved.

Also, last year, teams were gunning to shut Dwyer down and he was ACC player of the year behind an O-line that was learning a completely new blocking technique. Recievers and A-backs will be blocking better downfield this year as well. Potential is there.

patrickr

May 22nd, 2009
12:28 pm

Another consideration is that if our backfield proves to have so much depth, CPJ may not pull Dwyer out of the games that we are winning big in. Dwyer didn’t even play the second of versus miami. If we have three or four games like that this year his stats could be much more impressive!

uknowme

May 22nd, 2009
12:28 pm

Huh? “Players from 8-4 teams do not win Heismans. This is a scientific fact” Scientific fact???? This explains a lot of your posts over the years. By the way, your 8-4 prediction is very valuable considering your “National Championship” prediction last year.

Mister T

May 22nd, 2009
12:36 pm

GradyGrad,
I was about to take that a bit further. It seems the Tech Blogger should likewise be photographed dressed in White & Gold and prominantly displayed.
What do you say Doug?
What’s The Good Word?!
:-)

USC

May 22nd, 2009
12:40 pm

What was Ron Dayne’s team record when he won the Heisman? Joe got robbed!!

GT B Smash

May 22nd, 2009
12:44 pm

The only way Dwyer wins is if he starts to return kicks and punts. The last pure back to win the Heisman was Ron Dayne 10 years ago. He ran for 1800plus yards and also broke the D1A career record for rushing yards. I love Dwyer, but the Heisman is a QB award.

William Casey

May 22nd, 2009
1:13 pm

TEAM success has a LOT to do with the Heisman winner these days. Joe Hamilton probably would have won the award his senior year had GT matched the 10-2 record of his junior year.

Baba O'Riley

May 22nd, 2009
1:24 pm

Death, taxes, and Huh? trolling the Tech blog.

Mike Harris

May 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm

All I can say is are you kidding me. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! HA HA HA. Dryer for Heisman. Thats to good.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm

I agree William Casey. Joe Hamilton would have won the Heisman if Ted Roofe wasn’t the defensive coordinator. It doesn’t do any good to score 42 points if the other teams are scoring 45 points.

Just ask Huh?

Clay

May 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm

I had never heard of this Moreno guy everyone keeps mentioning so I looked up his stats from last year. He had many more touches than Dwyer and less yards, plus he was way older than Dwyer. Moreno should have been a lot better…guess that’s why I had never heard of him. Dwyer is amazing, but the Heisman has become a quarterback award.

Ramblin Wreckers....

May 22nd, 2009
1:30 pm

Are you serious, Tech fans get a grip. In that silly offense….No way, he’ll get his 1000 yards because that’s all you can do in that offense is run but Tech’s overall record of 7-4 after that schedule will put things back in perspective. How bout them Dawgs….

Big GT Fan

May 22nd, 2009
1:34 pm

Love Dwyer but unless he raises it to another level (which I have no idea how he could) he won’t do better than possibly being at the #5 slot. Would love to see it happen though. Dwyer for 1500+ yards. Go.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
1:42 pm

Doug, I like this blog, although I don’t think that Dwyer will get the hype he needs to get the Heisman.

First, that trophy seems to only be for quarterbacks.
Second, each runningback for Tech will have his “good game”. What I mean is that with the depth that Tech has in the backfield, I highly doubt that Dwyer will be the “star runningback” for every game. For example, I recall Roddy Jones being the star runningback in the UGA game, but Dwyer for the Miami game.

The chance of him getting the trophy this year depend too much on uncontrollable factors, but he has a much better chance next year when Tebow, Colt, and Bradford leave and IF Dwyer decides to stay for his senior year.

sidewalk74

May 22nd, 2009
1:42 pm

Not a chance. The media will make sure that a QB wins every year for the foreseeable future. I am almost positive he will not even be mentioned on ESPN as a candidate.

Baba O'Riley

May 22nd, 2009
1:43 pm

There could be some sentiment in the media (remember Charles Woodson) to try something new and give it to a RB. All those QBs may split the vote. Peyton Manning was robbed in that vote.

Jaded Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
1:47 pm

When Adrian Peterson played B-back at Georgia Southern for Paul Johnson he won the Walter Payton award (I-AA’s Heisman award) once. In fact, he was one of the top three vote getters for three straight years. Dwyer is certainly as talented as Peterson, but GSU didn’t have the number of weapons that Tech will have this year. A running back in Tech’s offense always has a good chance at winning a Heisman, but they need enough touches to have the opprotunity to register gaudy numbers in order to get noticed. In blow-out games last year, the best players were pulled, which happend a few times when Dwyer only played in the first half. He could have had much bigger numbers. I think the depth of talent will have the same effect on Dwyer’s touches as did being pulled from blow-outs.

BleedWhiteNGold

May 22nd, 2009
2:04 pm

Dwyer has the potent. to win the heisman depending on how a few things go. With now the amount of the depth we have in the backfield this year (at b-back especially) dwyer will get some chances to run some a-back which will allow him not only run the outside but catch out of the backfield as well, which he is very capable of doing, if he can gain enough all purpose yards and tech finishes in the top 8 or so in the end, he might have a shot. As PTC Jacket says the depth will also hender his ability to put up bigger numbers because we now have several play makers at each posistion – Dwyer,watson,allen,cox all at b-back and Wright,Jones,Peeples,(allen again), etc, at A-back. Dwyer might not get enough quality touches.

SEC

May 22nd, 2009
2:09 pm

Dwyer is as talented as Peterson!? Not a chance. I am a Dawg fan however i do think Dwyer is a complete back. And yes he ran all over us i know, a large part because of Willie Martinez. Its a shame that the running back position doesnt get as much attention as it should when the heisman talk comes up. Moreno was a very talented back but i think the reason he was in the talks was because of his “entertainment” factor. But to the tech fans…..welcome back. i’m glad we got this rivalry back

gtforever

May 22nd, 2009
2:19 pm

All I can say, Dwyer will be one of the BEST running backs in the country. The Heisman award is a popularity contest, who cares how these lame sports writers vote.

Huh?

May 22nd, 2009
2:19 pm

“I had never heard of this Moreno guy…”

Real big college football fan we’ve got on our hands here. He’s probably one of those empty seats at a Georgia Tech game.

“By the way, your 8-4 prediction is very valuable considering your “National Championship” prediction last year.”

That’s a decent point, except for the part where I did not make any type of “National Championship” prediction last year and haven’t the slightest clue what the hell you are talking about. But you got me big guy. Sure thing.

Justin "By golly" Vess

May 22nd, 2009
2:25 pm

I tell all of you, Dwyer is the best running back of all time. He’s big, fast, hard nose, and cute. I would take him over anyone. Moreno was my guy, until Dwyer. He will go pro after next year.

Go Dawgs

Joey

May 22nd, 2009
2:41 pm

I agree, Dwyer is a hunky of a man football player. Yummy!

richard cranium

May 22nd, 2009
2:45 pm

Leghumpers have NEVER let facts get in the way of a good, over-hyped season of football….

C’ mon.

Clay

May 22nd, 2009
2:46 pm

Huh?,
I am a real college football fan, probably more so than you. So what if I’ve never heard of Moreno? I noticed you had no response to the facts I mentioned comparing the statistics of Moreno and Dwyer. It’s always a great way to stupefy U(sic)GA fans…just bring up the facts.

Greg

May 22nd, 2009
2:46 pm

Justin, do you think Cox is cute too?

Jaded Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm

OMG! I think this blog has been invaded by guys who watch football for other reasons.

tech duh

May 22nd, 2009
3:10 pm

anything is definetly possible since there hasnt been a repeat in a long time so that takes out bradford and tebow hasnt deserved one but has one so he wont win again mccoy is the easy favorite to win this year but think of how many 20+ yard runs dwyer had last year with the defense stacking the box knowing tech only had one reciever to throw to now with three people that can catch a ball (corey earls thats why your now on defense) dwyer now only has to run against a base defense that also has to be more careful about the outside with faster runners on the perimeter dwyer at best can get 1600 yards and at worst will get 1200 so dont count out thunder thighs

tommy

May 22nd, 2009
3:27 pm

I think he is good enough. There is not a question about that. He will have to have a breakaway year where he has scores alot more touchdowns and continues to have alot of home runs. His team needs to also go to a major bowl game. For all that to happen the passing game needs to be a little better and the blocking alot better. With all that said I think he would have a better shot if he stays his senior year.

Too Easy

May 22nd, 2009
3:29 pm

Clay Aiken, is that you? One thing’s for certain: Willie White won’t be a jackette candidate for Heisman.

Wreck7

May 22nd, 2009
3:31 pm

SEC: Even CPJ said once that he has never had a back like Dwyer. I somehow doubt he forgot about Peterson. He was a fine back but he wasn’t as big or fast as Jon Diesel.

HUH?: Tebow won the Heisman on a 9-4 team. So it can’t happen with an 8-4 squad but boy if you get one more win, you’re guaranteed… RIIIIIIIIGHT.

Dwyer won’t win the Heisman but he will be a top 10 candidate.

DiamondJim

May 22nd, 2009
4:17 pm

Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy will be hard to beat.
He needs to stay healthy and gain 2100 yards. He needs 3 long runs on UGA on TV. Also needs few big games in the ACC. Tech needs to win 10 games, possible not likely. 30-1 odds at best

Boss Hogg

May 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm

Huh? : Once again you show your ignorance. Paul Hornung won the 1956 Heisman when Notre Dame went 2-8. Tim Brown won the Heisman with an 8-4 Notre Dame team in 1987.

Huh?

May 22nd, 2009
5:01 pm

Thanks for the ancient history lessons on the Heisman Techies. Here’s a newsflash for you: You are NOT the Florida Gators. Thus, if your team goes 9-4 nobody on it will be winning any Heismans. I’d bet my life savings on it. You are the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets and nobody respects you enough to give a player from a 9-4 team a Heisman. Cry about it. Its what you do best.