Cleaning up an APR rumor
Reading the comments on the message board, many of you were afraid that if Derrick Favors becomes a one-and-done, the APR for Tech’s men’s basketball team will take another hit.
That’s not true, but there’s a catch.
Any athlete that leaves school before he graduates, and is on a pro roster next year, doesn’t count against a team’s APR…if he leaves in good academic standing.
For example, junior Gani Lawal has put his name in for the NBA draft. If he leaves Tech having completed this semester in good standing, and gets drafted or signs with a pro team, the basketball team’s APR won’t be negatively affected.
One other thing, athletics director Dan Radakovich included a note in the most recent edition of The Sting, the athletics department’s weekly newsletter, that “As a department we have become more equipped to address an monitor the structure of these NCAA academic standards…”
Tech Sports Information Director Dean Buchan said that the department isn’t reshuffling people, but it will continue to focus on the coordination needed across departments to ensure all sports exceed the NCAA’s minimum score of 925.
Heading over to tennis later today to watch some of the first-round action against jackson State.
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Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
7:35 am
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! I’m glad you cleared that up.
This should be the final nail in the “academic superiority” myth spewed by a large number of yellow jacket fans, but some just absolutely refuse to accept the facts.
eBuzz
May 8th, 2009
7:44 am
The 2 scholarship penalty assessed against the men’s basketball team for failure to meet NCAA academic standards is extremely disappointing, even more so than the team’s sad performance on the court. Neither is what Tech fans and alumni expect or deserve from any of their programs. Unfortunately, Mr. Hewitt is simply not getting the job done, and other than an occasional fluke, it is unlikely that he will in the future. It is time for a change, now, not next year or the year after coupled with more excuses. True, his contract is a burden, but it will always be a burden. Hopefully, it will be a lesson learned in for future contract negotiations with any coach.
JacketHeart
May 8th, 2009
7:50 am
Mr. Grinch,there is no doubt of academic superiority of GT over the Ugags. Those FACTs were documented in a previous AJC article. My question is how can the Ugags score so low on the college entry exams and suddenly get so high (relatively speaking) on the APR. Perhaps the NCAA should investigate this.
Gt4ever
May 8th, 2009
7:50 am
What myth, Mr. Grinch! Football and basketball players are there for ONE thing! Yes, there are exceptions, but for the most part the HYPOCRISY is just mind numbing when it comes to academics at a major institution.
cltgtfan
May 8th, 2009
8:50 am
Doug, is it any pro roster or only the NBA? My question is more directly, how do kids such as Dickey count in the equation?
droberson
May 8th, 2009
8:53 am
I believe it’s a pro roster, but I need to doublecheck
Your Neighbor
May 8th, 2009
9:03 am
JacketHeart….If you would take the time to research UGA’s entrance requirements, I believe you would find it a much more challenging school than you think. Or, you could remain the typical Yellow Jacket, and rant about things you don’t understand. Both schools are excellent academic institutions, depending on what your chosen fields of study happen to be.
texaswreck
May 8th, 2009
9:14 am
Remember that being in good academic standard is easier at some schools than others. It is very unlikely that a player majoring in kinesiology (phys ed) will fall into trouble, but a business, economics, engineering major could happen due to time, practice, travel, etc. The bottom line is that Tech’s basketball APR is not acceptable. One and done does hurt a school like Tech because we are not going to get players who want to major in PE since we do not have that as a major. Even worse, these same Tech players who are not academically gifted also do not seem to be athletically gifted!! Question: how much impact does a player being declared ineligible have if the player later gets back in good standing, versus an ineligible player leaving??
Phoneguy
May 8th, 2009
9:17 am
Man, this must suck for the Tech fans. Now UGA is superior in ACADEMICS as well. (That must suck) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Phoneguy
May 8th, 2009
9:29 am
Sorry for the childish post. Couldn’t resist, its just laughable that Tech considers itself so academically superior to UGA and now this comes out. And to even make the statement of having the NCAA evaluate the test scores is just hilarious. Talk about redheaded stepchild syndrome.
Stumpy's Bear
May 8th, 2009
9:35 am
Phoneguy, UGA is supprior in Acagemcics as well as ???? We’ve beaten you in every major sport this year.
Also, APR has nothing to do with quality of education which has been settled in every ranking that’s ever been released, it has to do with a combination of the focus the athletics department, and more specifically individual coaches, puts on academics vs. athletics and challenge of the coursework. Challenging probably the number one adjective when it comes to Georgia Tech academics.
I’m not satisfied with our APR failure, but it’s not a reflection on the school’s quality of education.
Stumpy's Bear
May 8th, 2009
9:37 am
superior, academics (sp) obv
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 8th, 2009
9:38 am
OK Phoneguy, I’m trying to think of what else “UGA is superior” in…but can’t. Please help…but keep in mind we don’t have a ladies gymnastic or equestrian team.
Georgia Fans
May 8th, 2009
9:50 am
Don’t you have your own blog? Why are you so obsessed with Tech that you must be on their fans blog day in and day out? Doesn’t it make you kind of sad to know you’re more interested in what we’re saying than what your own fans are saying. Keep coming on here losers. Just makes me laugh harder everytime. But hey, maybe y’all will win at swimming this year…then you’ll really have some trash talking to do!
Saint Simons
May 8th, 2009
10:05 am
45-42!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha
Navigator
May 8th, 2009
10:23 am
I have to agree with some of the Georgia fans about comments Tech fans are making about UGA as an academic institution. Both my sons graduated from UGA (my oldest with his Masters), and there is nothing easy about getting your degree there. UGA has as good an academic name as any other school in the SEC, except Vanderbilt. However, there is a difference in what studies the UGA athletes have available, versus what’s available at Tech for their players.
JacketSteve
May 8th, 2009
10:41 am
Navigator, you hit the nail on the head. I have to admit that UGA does have better academic standards now, especially since the whole Jan Kemp ordeal years ago. But the classes and majors that the TECH athletes are taking compared to what the UGA athletes are taking are so much more challenging it’s not even a discussion. While I was a junior at Tech I took classes at Uga spring quarter. I did it to get my english credits out of the way, because my girlfriend was at Uga and because it was spring in Athens and Brumby Beach was a far better sight than anything I’d ever seen on the Tech campus. But I did get to know some of the athletes and some of the classes they were taking. They were a joke compared to the classes I had with people like Mark Price, John Salley and the Hall of Famer Pat Swilling.
gte268p
May 8th, 2009
10:43 am
There may not be anything easy about getting CERTAIN degrees at uga, but there sure are easy things about getting SOME degrees at uga! Plus, classes seem to be a bit more challenging when student-athletes aren’t given free passes in classes. Please remind me, how many points is a three pointer worth?
c
May 8th, 2009
11:04 am
This doesn’t prove anything about academics at Tech or UGA. It proves that Hewitt doesn’t graduate his players that’s it.
AGTFan
May 8th, 2009
11:08 am
We Tech fans do sometimes get silly in talking about UGA academics. UGA is an excellent school and I would be proud to have my daughter get a degree from UGA. I’d even start talking to her again after a few years. Just kidding! There have been some very high quality minds that participated in the athletics of both schools and some morons. UGA owes a true debt to the job Coach Felton did of straightening out the academic mess he inherited from Harrick. Of course, they rewarded him with a job termination. While Hewatt doesn’t sink to the Harrick level, he does have a lot to answer for. He doesn’t seem to be getting the job done on or off the court.
keep laughing, Saint Simons
May 8th, 2009
11:17 am
HAHAHAHAHAHA…..yeah, 45-42…….must have been the IQ of some of the yellow jacket bb players…….right, Saint Simons – HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Damon E
May 8th, 2009
11:52 am
How do we do it? Simple…..we have majors like “Housing” and “Consumer Economics” which are only slightly less-challenging than the average high school vocational-track curriculum. I mean, c’mon….how else would we ever be able to keep guys with Wonderlic scores in the low teens (Wynn, Moreno, etc….) on track to graduate? Heck, Harrick Jr’s “Hoops 101″ course was one of the tougher challenges in our student-athletes’ academic careers! (Glad they don’t have that hurdle to clear anymore!)
If Tech wants to avoid these problems in the future, they really need to add some majors that marginal students can breeze thru. Simply requiring higher GPA and test numbers than the rest of us use for student-athletes ain’t cutting it.
RetLTC
May 8th, 2009
12:05 pm
gte268p
May 8th, 2009
10:43 am
There may not be anything easy about getting CERTAIN degrees at uga, but there sure are easy things about getting SOME degrees at uga! Plus, classes seem to be a bit more challenging when student-athletes aren’t given free passes in classes. Please remind me, how many points is a three pointer worth?
Reggie Ball would have missed that one.
Hayseed Dixie
May 8th, 2009
12:35 pm
Hey, does the UGA entrance exam still include the “fog the mirror” section?
AGTFan
May 8th, 2009
12:41 pm
I see this is degenerating into the normal silliness. Just a note to Mr Roberson, Great article on Murton. You are doing a nice job covering GT.
UGA's a joke
May 8th, 2009
12:58 pm
That was on a college test. Yikes! UGA…lmao.
vamosjackets
May 8th, 2009
1:10 pm
Please do an investigation into how a student at a state university (sic) (like Ugag) can spend 4 years in a major like sports/leisure studies or parks and recreation management or field turf management. To base university perfomance on graduation rates is baloney when schools like our great state university exploit athletes by putting them in a bogus major for 4 years just to keep them elligible. That is where the biggest wrong doing is occuring now. Please investigate these degrees/majors! That would open up the black box known as football factory “student”-athletes moreso than anything else. Someone needs to tell the story, and blow the whistle.
Maddog
May 8th, 2009
1:30 pm
vamosjackets – I understand the point you are trying to make, but many of the majors you disparage actually serve a purpose.
Field turf management. The son of a family friend majored in this exact subject and is in charge of the greens on two golf courses operated by the same people. He makes a pretty good living to boot. I happen to play golf so I appreciate the fruits of his labor.
Recreation management. The recreation department of the city in which I live is headed by a man with that degree, but not from UGA. My children thoroughly enjoy, and take advantage of, the opportunities afforded by the city. Outside of school and sleeping in their beds at night, they probably spend as much time participating in the events headed up by someone who, in your opinion, has a worthless major. The guy really does a good job. Not great pay, but he enjoys it and is good at it. Isn’t that really what it’s all about?
Regarding leisure studies. Okay, you got me there. I don’t know of anyone with that major and how they applied it to a career.
Regardless, we all have unique talents and interests and I think it’s great that a college can offer degrees from such a diverse field. Just my thoughts.
Maddog
May 8th, 2009
1:34 pm
By the way, we all have our skeletons.
The Harrick debacle (how many points do you get from a 3-pointer) was a total disgrace, but so was the O’Leary fiasco (keeping athletes eligible by fixing their transcripts). Here’s the upside – both Harrick and O’Leary are gone. Time to move on.
CoolBreeze
May 8th, 2009
1:39 pm
So, a “C” in a math course at, say, MIT, is not as good as a “B” in a PE course at UGa? Just asking………
Stumpy's Bear
May 8th, 2009
1:40 pm
O’Leary was never found guilty of any such thing. If you are referring to the harsh probation we received for playing ineligible athletes, that’s one thing, but no one ever claimed O’Leary was behind it all. It was a clerical mistake and we’ve moved on. Harrick was a disgrace.
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
1:41 pm
To CoolBreeze
All depends on who’s hiring. Is an employer looking for a math teacher or a PE instructor:) Jusy sayin’……….
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
1:59 pm
To Stumpy’s Bear
Perhaps O’Leary was never involved. Who knows? All he did was lie on his resume. By the way, I have a doctorate degree from Harvard, I’m fluent in 9 languages, have mastered 14 musical instruments, and will win next season on American Idol…………..
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
2:31 pm
For the record: Out of the fifteen players on GT’s roster last year they were majoring in the following categories.
9 were Managment
1 Biomedical Engineering
1 Civil Engineering
1 Industrial Engineering
2 Science, Technology, and Culture
1 Graduate program for International Affairs
I searched UGA’s website to compare majors and much to my surprise they were not listed. Instead they listed their favorite foods and music. So, if any mutts out there care to find out it would fit nicely into the discussion.
ugablows
May 8th, 2009
2:41 pm
just for the record, O’Leary (nor anyone else at GT) fixed anyone’s transcripts to keep them eligable…..but nice try doggie
Huh?
May 8th, 2009
2:46 pm
“I searched UGA’s website to compare majors and much to my surprise they were not listed.”
That is indeed very surprising. I just searched georgiadogs.com and it took me all of about 2 seconds to find the football roster and each players’ major. And I don’t even have an engineering degree. Go figure? Here ya go Captain Clueless:
http://www.georgiadogs.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8800&SPID=3571&SPSID=40675
Here’s the problem Tech fans: You have ZERO credibility. We simply do not believe anything you say. You lie and make things up about all this academic stuff. I’d estimate that 70-80% of what you say about this topic is complete and utter cow dung. Why do I think this? Because I have never in my life seen a fanbase more obsessed with its image than Georgia Tech fans. Its very narcissistic and narcissists cannot be trusted. They will say and do anything to promote themselves. The truth isn’t important. Making others believe it is all that’s important. That’s Tech fans and their little high and mighty academic routine in a nutshell. Thanks.
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
2:52 pm
To ugablows
Is your name indicative of a “hidden” talent you possess?
Congratulations, though, you are awarded the “lame post of the day” award and will automatically be entered into the “lame post of the week” contest. Sure, no one at georgia tech – coaches, administration, etc – had anything to do with the transcripts. LOL!! So why did the NCAA lay it on you if nothing happened?
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
3:00 pm
Huh?, I too found the majors of the football players. Congrats, you are not a retard! The discussion is about BASKETBALL dumbarse! Search again, buddy. This time think BASKETBALL!! And you want to talk about credibility, HAHA. If you find it, please supply the link. Really that is all that I was asking for. I just would like to compare. I think it would be interesting is all.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 8th, 2009
3:08 pm
Heres a better link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHzxEKEQle0&feature=related
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
3:10 pm
Also, how am I saying and doing anything to promote GT? I simply wrote facts.
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
3:13 pm
To GoodWord
How many of the “engineering” majors actually STARTED (or even played significantly) for the yellow jackets?
gte268p
May 8th, 2009
3:18 pm
O’leary was sleazy with that resume fiasco, and in some other ways too, but he never fixed transcripts that anyone knows of, and I don’t believe he ever would. But if I recall correctly, the whole issue with ineligible players came about because of the extremely complicated and mandatory switch from the quarter system to the semester system which the Board of Regents made us do. Should it have been handled better? Yes. Should it have been necessary? No way! Quarter systems work so much better for engineering schools. The NCAA definitely was harsh on us for this, but we persevered and had winning seasons anyway.
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
3:24 pm
Mr. Grinch, I am not one to make things up (regardless of what HUH? thinks). So to answer your questions, ONE. Yep, that’s right only Nick Foreman played a significant role.
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
3:27 pm
Nick Foreman was the Biomedical Engineering major.
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
3:31 pm
Good for Nick Foreman. He is TRULY a student-athlete.
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
3:35 pm
By the way, what the hell is “Science, Technology, and Culture”? Culture??
Andrew
May 8th, 2009
3:37 pm
Nick Foreman averaged 1.7 points per game……
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=42536
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
3:48 pm
True Andrew, but basketball isn’t just about scoring points. Nick Foreman is our best defender. Way to skew facts your way, bud. You are just doing what HUH? is accusing us Tech fans of doing. Total BS, man. Nick only played because of his defense.
Andrew
May 8th, 2009
3:50 pm
I’m a UGA alum and fan. I grew up rooting for Tech until I went to college. I completely switched once I went to college. Here are some of my observations.
Tech fans: You have a great and tough academic institution. You do engineering, that’s your strength. People who graduate with management degrees from tech aren’t allowed to talk trash. A majority of your important players for your basketball and football teams are not engineers, so don’t belittle our players for having easy majors, yours do as well. UGA is a great school, don’t ignore the facts. We don’t do engineering. I get that engineering is a tough area. We do business and such, and we do a great job.
Your football team beat us this year. Congrats. It wasnt a butt whipping. Your defense was terrible as well, so don’t act like ours was 10 times worse. We beat you 7 out of 8. and im not sure of the exact number but its around 14 of 18. Have some common sense and control yourselves. Beat us a couple of times in a row and then go nuts, you will deserve it, if that happens. But you can’t really believe that the balance of power just shifted because of one win? It’s just lunacy.
Andrew
May 8th, 2009
3:52 pm
I wasn’t aware of Nick only playing defense. I apologize. But a defense specialist for a terrible team? That’s not a great accomplishment. And I realize that you beat us, so save yourself that argument. You guys were terrible and we were even more terrible.
Hey Andrew
May 8th, 2009
4:18 pm
11-6
45-42
67-62
what next lil’ guy? what next?
why are you on a tech blog talking trash. your team can’t beat tech in a damn thing THIS YEAR.
if you want to talk about the past be my guest but most sports fans are more focused on the present. the here and now…and the here and now says your team is currently losing in every major sport to it’s rival…the same rival you’re talking trash to?!?!? what is there to say? you’ll get us next year???
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
4:29 pm
Anyone willing to tackle that “Culture” question?
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
4:33 pm
Mr. Grinch, my guess is that it is almost a history course. Studying how Technology and Science have effected culture from different regions. I really don’t see how difficult that is to understand.
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
4:37 pm
Question for you Mr. Grinch. I have noticed that most of the UGA football players are majoring in housing. What exactly does that mean?
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
4:38 pm
To GoodWord
It’s not difficult to understand. I’m sure if georgia offered a “Culture” major you yellow jackets would have a field day. Was just wonderin’……
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
4:40 pm
To GoodWord
Following your explanation about how “culture” should not be too difficult to understand, I would imagine housing pertains to those thingamajigs that people live in. Quoting you, “I really don’t see how difficult that is to understand”.
Andrew
May 8th, 2009
4:45 pm
so by your statements, every UGA fan should have talked the most amount of trash to a florida fan possible after our win 2 years ago? Yes, we were happy, yes we celebrated, but I didn’t talk trash to a single UF fan, because we knew our role. They have our number. Funny, we beat you guys like UF beats us…I’m not gonna say anything about basketball because we both suck and it aint worth my time. Baseball, i guess you just beat us. Problem is, if we make it farther than you like recent history, will you still be proud?
cluett peabody
May 8th, 2009
4:50 pm
m? Where are you?
I need a tgag fix.
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
4:52 pm
Ok Grinch. What exactly do you study about a house? architectual design? Wouldn’t that be architect? Housing? Hmm…. that’s new to me. And it is not real estate because there are some athlete majoring in that, so it rules that out. Please explain more.
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
4:54 pm
To GoodWord
Thought I’d help you out based on your interest of the housing major. It’s actually Housing and Consumer Economics. Here’s the link
http://www.fcs.uga.edu/hace/undergraduate/
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
4:57 pm
To GoodWord
By the way, just how many of the yellow jacket athletes actually earn a degree in “management”. Management. Hmm…..at an engineering school. Must be your crip major. Oh yeah, that’s right, about 90% of your athletes major in it. Again, do tell how many athletes actually earn their “management” degree and to what use do they put it?
Mr. Grinch
May 8th, 2009
5:04 pm
To GoodWord.
Did a little more leg work. Here’s what I found about that challenging Science, Technology and Culture major at georgia tech, and this is directly from their website:
“PURPOSE AND SCOPE
This subject guide is intended to provide general research assistance to undergraduate and beginning researchers interested in the study of science, technology, and culture, including, but not limited to, the study of the history, philosophy, and sociology of science.
SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY STUDIES AT GEORGIA TECH
For information on degree programs at Georgia Tech that relate to the study of science, technology, and society contact the School of History, Technology, and Society and the School of Literature, Communication, and Culture.”
Riveting, I tell you, just riveting. The history of science, the philosophy of science, and the sociolgy of science. HAHAHAHAHA. Wonder what the person who created this major was smoking. But hey, uh, yeah, I can see how this fits in beautifully at an engineering school. HAHAHAHA.
I could hardly believe my eyes. The school of of History, Technology, and Society and the School of Literature, Communication, and Culture.”
At an engineering school? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I can hear it now, “Phone lines are open, sign up now”….HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Student Athlete
May 8th, 2009
5:26 pm
I cannot believe what I’ve been reading. Let me see….so tech actually has an engineer on the basketball team. Wow, based on his 1.7 point scoring average, if the engineering school known as Georgia Tech actually played 9 more engineers then the team would average 17 points per game.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 8th, 2009
5:29 pm
Mr. Grinch is still hurting from that 45-42 SMACKDOWN in his house. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
…speaking of smoking, was that Roddy Jones smoking you for another 16.9 yards?
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
5:42 pm
Grinch, I did a little leg work myself. GT has 4 football players and 2 basketball players majoring in this Science and technology major. UGA has 22 players majoring in “housing”. Notice a difference in those numbers? Also, UGA has art majors, wildlife majors?, exercise and sports science, sports studies, and middle school education. You can’t honestly be serious, can you grinch? Come on now, tell the truth. You are just taking a piece of something and acting like the whole team is majoring in this. As you can see, you are just making crap up. Oh yeah, where is the super resourceful, HUH? with the basketball majors? It only took him 2 seconds to look up football majors. GEEZ!!
GoodWord
May 8th, 2009
5:45 pm
I guess you missed the defensive specialist discussion, huh “student athlete”? Of course, that’s what boneheads like you do. Just focus on what kind of irrelevant point you want to make. Nice math though!! I had to check you on that.
SlimG
May 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
When are you guys gonna learn about college athletics? It’s a money maker for the school, nothing more. Sure a small percentage of major sports athletes get their degree, congrats, the rest go to the welfare line along with all their relatives. Stop making this so hard to understand. As for the coaches, they could care less if the kid graduates, as long as their Pell grant is approved and they are eligible for the season it’s a win-win.
Paul Hewitt is not different that the rest. As you can tell by the displeasure with his performance over the past couple of years, that’s all that matters to the fans. Win or else. If you are not winning, people will harp on any negative. Ask yourself, if Hewitt had taken his teams to the last two Final Fours, would this be an issue? Didn’t think so………
Phoneguy
May 8th, 2009
6:57 pm
Yeah that was a real drubbing Tech put on UGA. Man I tell ya’ I just don’t know how they will ever recover from a “3 POINT LOSS”. Geez Ramble on, try to come up with something different. Tech will soon take their rightful, USUAL place…..behind UGA. Ya’ll better watch out ya know Ga State is getting a team now. Another team for ya’ll to be inferior to.
STUCK IN SC
May 8th, 2009
9:48 pm
Arrogant nerds now inferior in academics as well as sports. LMAO!
Money Money Money
May 8th, 2009
9:59 pm
Who cares what these guys majors are? The majority of them will go on to play in the CFL, Arena League or become high school coaches/PE teachers.
The point is: These guys go to UGA and Ga Tech with the hopes of one day playing in the National Football League (NFL).
Current UGA NFL players – 56
Current Ga Tech NFL Players – 28
You tell me which school is doing a better justice to these student-athletes? Go to UGA…get PAID. Go to Ga Tech…get a job as PE Teacher
BS Patrol
May 9th, 2009
2:57 am
Great posts by GoodWord! You stuffed the grinch & proved what we all know to be true.
RAMBLE ON!! YOU THE MAN!!so to speak.
Money Money, Brain of a squirrel. Don’t try to blog with real people again. Ever!
macrotech
May 9th, 2009
5:18 am
Phoneguy, it was ONLY 3 points, BUT you mutt fans are HATING that you lost. It eats at the core of all that you are. I’ve been enjoying these blogs ever since. All the crying about injuries, poor officiating and rings has proven to be MOST laughable. THIS is our year and it pains you. Rightful place? Hate to break it to you, but we DID take our rightful place by 3 points. STUCK IN SC, i’d imagine that SC is fine with you leaving….i’m sure they’ll manage without ya! Ignorant turd breathed leg humpers stuck across the river….LMAO! GO TECH!
NYJacket
May 9th, 2009
10:07 am
If UGA thinks the academic requirements for athlets are tougher at UGA than Tech, let them remain in their deam world. The narrow offering of majors at Tech has long been an impediment when reqruiting athletes. But, having said that there are plenty of athletes that are very good and are very capable of handling the rigorous academic environment at Tech. And, since very few make their living from their athlete talents, Tech does an excellent job of preparing them for life after sport.
The Grinch
May 9th, 2009
11:15 am
To Goodword
Please find ONE post where I said ALL majors at UGA are tough. Next, fine ONE post by ANY yellow jacket fan who will admit that SOME of your majors are easier and geared towards athletes.
The School of of History, Technology, and Society??
The School of Literature, Communication, and Culture????
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The Grinch
May 9th, 2009
11:17 am
To NYJacket
If, as you say, “Tech does an excellent job of preparing them for life after sport”, then what percentage of your football and basketball STARTERS (or those that actually see meaningful playing time) actually receive their degree from tech so they can be so well prepared??
Jack G.
May 9th, 2009
2:50 pm
Now children…..Sticks and stones etc.
BS Patrol
May 9th, 2009
5:06 pm
Stated plainly & simply,
Georgia Tech is superior to GA in every single field of endeavor.
The Grinch
May 9th, 2009
6:33 pm
To BS Patrol
Your last comment proves my point. Many yellow jacket fans REFUSE to accept the fact that they are inferior, or even equal, in at least ONE area to ANYONE. Total arrogance. Looks like you found the BS in your last patrol. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
BS Patrol
May 9th, 2009
8:33 pm
Mr Grinch,
Would you be kind enough to point out the ONE of which you speak?
BS Patrol
May 9th, 2009
8:39 pm
BTW, I said GA. Not ANYONE.
BS Patrol
May 10th, 2009
10:05 am
I guess I’ve got you stumped.
BeenToUGA
May 10th, 2009
10:51 am
Grinch,
I attended and received degrees from both UGA (Physics degree) and GaTech (IE degree). There is no comparison academically between the 2 schools. It is like comparing junior high school to high school.
And the football players major in Business. GaTech’s Business school was ranked higher than the UGA Business school in the US News and World report rankings of school last year.
Go get back on your tractor.
GoodWord
May 10th, 2009
10:55 am
It’s weird to see the Grinch still trolling around two days later. I must really be in his head. Kind of like Roddy in UGA’s secondary!
PTC DAWG
May 10th, 2009
11:21 am
Both UGA and GT are very good schools. Different for sure…why can’t it just be left at that?
Neither is perfect either…that’s for sure.
I will say it’s good to have the GT fans back, congrats to them.
AlabamaRamblinwreck
May 10th, 2009
12:32 pm
Just like BeentoUGA, I have attended both schools. I graduated GT. Unless you have dealt with GT and the GT professors, you have no idea how difficult college can be. There is NO comparison. If you graduate UGA, be proud, but you probably didn’t lose years off your life doing it. At GT, if you get the degree, you have earned it and you have been very fortunate. I knew a lot of very intelligent students who were not able to make it. Not only do freshmen get a 50% weedout, there is another 25-50% weedout when you reach your junior year!! It really is the survival of the fittest. And, we can try to explain it to alumni from other schools, and they will never understand. So, why don’t we just talk sports here?
Go Jackets!!
BS Patrol
May 10th, 2009
5:56 pm
If memory serves, half my freshman class was out at year end. Chemistry got a lot of them. I personally knew one high school’s star student who went warning, probation, out of school. We laughed about Emory students having Wednesdays off while we went to class on Saturdays. You won’t see Tech ranked highly among Playboy’s party schools.
academics
May 10th, 2009
9:26 pm
Phoneguy- UGA is superior at what? You lost to us on basketball, football and baseball this year. And you are superior to us how? 45-42 HA HA HA HA HA back at ya.
The Grinch
May 10th, 2009
10:59 pm
To BS Patrol.
Speaking of getting into someone’s head. You have posted at:
2:57 AM on May 9th (AM for crying out loud??)
5:06 PM on May 9th
8:33 PM on May 9th
8:39 PM on May 9th (sounds like a lonely kind of Saturday you know?)
10:05 AM on May 10th
5:56 PM on May 10th
What’s wrong nerd, I know you can’t score with a chick but couldn’t you even score some tickets to the new Star Trek movie? HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
The School of of History, Technology, and Society??
The School of Literature, Communication, and Culture????
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The Grinch
May 10th, 2009
11:02 pm
To BS Patrol
By the way, smarter than everyone else, if georgia tech only accepts smart students, how the heck were half your freshman class gone by the end of your first year?
Also, why would Playboy waste their time on your campus. They’re looking for beautiful women.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BS Patrol
May 10th, 2009
11:23 pm
Grinch,
You still are trying to avoid my question aren’t you?
The reason half were gone is because of the rigorous academics. You’re not real sharp are you?
I think you must be the idiot formerly known as Reality Yeck. Just disappear, will you?
BS Patrol
May 10th, 2009
11:31 pm
As for my blog times, one must come up for air occasionally. But you probably don’t even know what that means.
cleveland jacket
May 10th, 2009
11:32 pm
thanks for all the comments i was a Tech guy, my daughter got a GREAT education at the Dawg school. crazy to be like this why not the 2 schools against the rest of the world except for one saturday a year?
BS Patrol
May 11th, 2009
12:31 am
OMG! I have been blogging with an adolescent!
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
7:29 am
To BS Patrol
OMG????? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And just who’s the adolescent???
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
8:12 am
To RAMBLE ON
By the way, I believe you have a crush on Roddy Jones. That’s all you talk about. Do you wear his jersey number and have his picture on your wall? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
8:21 am
To BS Patrol
By the way, speaking of “sharp”, you better not carry anything sharp. You might puncture and deflate your girlfriend. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
To The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
9:14 am
We get it dude…YOU LIKE UGA! WE GET IT!!!!!!
DirtyDawg
May 11th, 2009
9:49 am
Hey folks, nobody’s arguing that an Engineering School doesnt’ have a tougher curriculum than the more diverse offerings of a State University – it’s the way the system works. And nobody’s – at least I’m not – saying that the typical student at Tech probably has a more stringent academic load than one at Georgia (on average). What we are saying is that you can’t have it both ways. You can’t fall back on the excuse that your academic requirements are the reason you can’t be as successful as others, and in particular UGA. Not when you get these kinds of results and yet not a single athlete has been suspended, certainly not one of significance, because of academic failures. Your athletic administrators see to that. Like taking courses in maths and sciences at Morehouse…like a player that couldn’t get out of remedial studies at UGA, transfers to Tech and ends up on the Dean’s List (wonder who did that work?)…like playing guys that, as it turns out, were actually ineligible and blame it on the former Dean of Women after the fact.
And by the way, Georgia’s academics became more stringent because of the Hope Scholarship, not Jan Kemp.
To DirtyDawg
May 11th, 2009
10:47 am
We get it…YOU LIKE UGA. Point taken. Thanks!
WTF??
May 11th, 2009
11:53 am
I do LOVE COX!!!
c'mon UGA people
May 11th, 2009
1:02 pm
I’m a UGA grad ..Statistics. Not an easy degree to obtain ..in fact is was pretty tough. That being said, GA Tech is simply a tougher school academically that Georgia. Georgia is a fine academic institution …but it’s no GA Tech. UGA fans need to stop with the idea that the two schools are on par with one another …they are not.
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
1:23 pm
To c’mon UGA people
Never said the two were equal. It’s just that a number of yellow jacket fans keep spouting off about how their athletes are smart while georgia’s are dumb. I dare say 90% of the “student athletes” at both schools don’t meet the average student admission requirements. Just stop trying to convince everyone that all yellow jacket athletes are scholarly engineering majors. It’s a bold face lie and this APR thing is just the latest example of the hypocrisy of such statements.
To the Grinch
May 11th, 2009
2:35 pm
We get your point….You don’t like Tech. You love the Dawgs. What mor eis there to say? Move along…go worship your team some more and quit obsessing about ours and what we’re doing. You are a UGA fan right? Then why do you spend every waking minute on a TECH BLOG?
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
3:10 pm
To “To the Grinch”
So what you’re saying is if an article came out showing the georgia bb team failed the APR that NONE of the yellow jacket nation would be spouting off on these blogs? That is what you’re saying, right? Yeah, riiiiigggghhhht!!!
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
3:26 pm
To “To the Grinch”
By the way, stop changing your post name repeatedly.
Dawg1
May 11th, 2009
4:09 pm
Wow! I see we are just as childest on your site as you are own ours… The funny part is that most of us have many-many friends from the opposite other school that we would never treat the way people treat each other on these blogs.
I’m sure the APR annoucement was little blow to your ego. You have finally had a better year against UGA than we have had against you in athletics. My congratulations.
So it is a year we both win. You get to crow about beating us on the field and we no longer have to listen to the Academically Superior Garbage.
Have a nice summer folks – we’ll see you in November.
bb
May 11th, 2009
4:37 pm
Hey, Grinch.
A ‘Management’ degree at Tech still requires Calculus.
I am assuming that a ‘Housing’ degree requires, what? Checkbook Balancing?
Yeah, those are on par.
BS Patrol
May 11th, 2009
4:38 pm
The APR results simply confirm the stringency of Tech’s academic requirements. I could be wrong. But I don’t think so.
The bottom line is:
Top to bottom, Tech is the boss of ga.
Hey Dawg1
May 11th, 2009
4:50 pm
In regards to your comment:
“Have a nice summer folks – we’ll see you in November”
I have to disagree. Apparently you all will see us EVERY SINGLE FREAKING DAY ON THIS BLOG! This blog has been filled with you moron’s bitching every day since last November so for some reason I don’t think that will ever stop. We all get it bro. You love your Dawgs. You love UGA. You don’t like Tech. We get it. Your team is the best and they are better at everything and they totally kick a**….. Does that help? Does that make you ok with just moving along and not obsessing so much on the Tech blogs every day? Don’t you WANT to be on the UGA blog talking about the team you love. There’s not much more to say on this blog from you UGA fans than “I HATE TECH AND LOVE UGA”….everything else is pretty much opinions. I’m not on the UGA blog talking trash cause there is not much to say. We’ve lost quite a bit to you in the past several years. I understand that…you don’t have to bring it up every single day….just like our fans don’t need to bring up 45-42 every single day. It’s all getting really old and really lame. I wish I could come on here and read some inside info and opinions about our team and their offseason. Unfortunately all I get is a bunch of idiots with “my dad can beat up your dad” syndrome. We get it! We get that you love your team! We get that you hate ours! Please, let your statement be true….I hope we don’t see or hear from you again until November. And then I’m sure you assume you’ll beat us and we’ll assume we’ll beat you but until then it’s all up in the air. Let’s leave it at that.
Seya in November? (for real this time)
Not Disappointed
May 11th, 2009
4:56 pm
Doug, Did we hear your voice today on College Football Live making reference to The Defensive line and Offensive Lines for the up coming year. “Ramblin Wreck!”
Clearing up some things
May 11th, 2009
5:15 pm
bb, MGT at GT doesn’t require true calculus, but does require survey of calc. But as was said before, MGT at GT was #22 in the nation- and yeah, that’s the “easy” major for athletes. UGA’s is #55.
The Grinch- UGA was the only school with 90+% of football athletes NOT meeting minimum academic standards and getting “special admits”. GT was 7% I believe. Try again.
The APR merely follows graduation rates and in no way factors in how hard getting through a major happens to be, so it is extremely flawed. Sure, UGA has some good majors, but almost no athletes take them. Most GT athletes take MGT, which I’ll admit (having majored in engineering and minored in business) certainly is easier, but again, #22 in the nation at an engineering school. What’s UGA’s excuse?
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
5:24 pm
To bb
Big whoop. My high school degree required calculus.
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
6:20 pm
UGA is the greatest school in the history of the universe. My undying love for UGA leads me here to rip on you Nerds. I love everything about UGA and think about the Red and Black all day every day…. I hate Tech with all my heart and dedicate quite a bit of my time thinking about Tech and how to anger it’s fans. I’m actually a bit obsessed with Tech you could say considering I spend most of my time on their blog when I’m not even a fan. I come here to show you all that I have nothing but love for the Dawgs. Go Georgia. Every other university is worthless. Mark Richt is God. Joe Cox will complete every pass he throws this year. UGA players are the smartest athletes in the country. UGA players have never been arrested and are amazing individuals. I dream of one day making out with one. GO DAWGS!
BS Patrol
May 11th, 2009
6:48 pm
The Grinch just said he got his “degree” from high school. I rest my case,
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
6:56 pm
Oh yeah, and my other name is RealityYech, im a huge loser douche, i blow all hours of the nights b/c i get “urges” and I think uga is so cool b/c its all whites, and crazy, murderous teachers. Im going to go dig my grave and kill myself now.
Jimmy
May 11th, 2009
9:43 pm
I was laughing my A$$ off at all of your stupid comments until that last remark by the Grinch’s imposter. Dude, two people died there. Show some freaking class.
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
9:47 pm
To Jimmy
I agree. Yeah, I tick some people off and like to stir the pot a little, but some of the supposed tech fans really cross the line. I cannot believe this guy is really a tech fan. I know too many and most all of them are great people.
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
9:51 pm
To BS Patrol
So sorry for the egregious error. Been reading so many posts from the yellow jacket faithful I slipped with the “degree”. Whether it be a diploma, degree, certificate (like the tech management majors), or, BS, in your case – a GED, calculus is calculus. Unless of course tech has developed a newer, tougher calculus. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
I made an A in calculus in high school……no big deal, really. I wonder if those “Culture” majors at tech have to take the super tough calculus. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
To The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
10:34 pm
45-42
67-62
11-6
What next?!?!
Why are you on a Tech Blog talking trash? Your team lost to Tech in all 3 major sports this year. Are you still thinking about the past? Something tells me you’ll bring it up in your response. Sad sad life you lead my friend trolling the Tech blogs trying to make yourself feel better this year. Either way….can’t wait till tomorrow. I’ll be downtown watching Tech destroy your Dawgs again in Baseball. Lemme guess you want to talk about last year’s baseball team? You guys sure do a ton of talking about the past when the present hurts so bad huh?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Go talk on the UGA blog about your team and quit worrying about us.
The Grinch
May 11th, 2009
10:40 pm
To “To the Grinch”
Gee, I thought this was an AJC blog. Hmmm, just another example of the yellow jacket nation claiming ownership of something else. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
By the way, find one comment of mine where I’m “living in the past” as you say. Can’t do it. Just a figment of your imagination. Don’t stay out too late tomorrow night…..don’t want to miss the Marta bus on your way home. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
To The Grinch
May 12th, 2009
12:40 am
Look up to the address tool bar moron….see where it says blogs.ajc.com/georgia-tech-sports?!?!?
not
blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports
get it? my point is you’re in the wrong section of the ajc you freakin idiot. you are a uga fan right? well why are you spending all of your time in the tech section? can you help me understand why you are so obsessed with tech that you need to be here day in and day out? will you be at the game tomorrow night or are you one of those uga band wagon fans that only supports and follows football?
45-42
67-62
11-6
What next?!?!
To The Grinch
May 12th, 2009
12:43 am
also, what a lame ass screen name….
just call youself what you are….DISGRUNTLED DAWG FAN
The Grinch
May 12th, 2009
12:56 am
I’m done listening to you NERDS! UGA will win the National Championship next year. Go ahead and mark it down. They are the best team in the nation and will kill Tech by 4 touchdowns. You only wish Tech had half the talent that my Dawgs have. Get ready geeks….Joe Cox is gonna light it up!