The difference 20 pounds makes?

Guess who this player is:

He’s 6-6, 283 pounds. Had 13 sacks as a junior, 24 in his career. Left school. Ran a 4.65-40 at combine. Benched 225 pounds, 35 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off.

Now, guess who this player is:

He’s 6-7, 266 pounds. Had nine sacks as a senior, his first season starting full-time. Also played on several special teams units. Ran a 4.69-40, benched 225 pounds 28 times. Tagged with a rep of taking some plays off. Could fall to the third round, according to some mock drafts.

The first player is Mario Williams, whom the Texans selected No. 1 in the 2006 draft. He’s gone on to have 30.5 sacks in Houston, and is considered one of the best defensive ends in the NFL.

The second player is…..you guessed it, Michael Johnson. 

So, why did Williams go No. 1, while Johnson could fall as low as the 70s in tomorrow’s draft? 

Williams is obviously bigger, and stronger, but does 20 pounds and eight reps make that much of a difference? 

NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock has blistered Johnson over and over, but many people were saying the same thing about Williams.

Could Johnson be the sleeper in the draft?

41 comments Add your comment

Wes

April 24th, 2009
2:12 pm

If the Falcons trade down out of their first round pick (if their DT or LB isn’t there) Johnson may be worth one of their picks in the second round. Give them another chance to go after a hometown guy named Johnson. I wish they had a chance at Calvin…

Justin

April 24th, 2009
2:19 pm

I would like to see him fall just a little bit just so that the Falcons could pick him up in the 2nd round. I think that would make us GT fans happy and also cause MJ to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder to show what other teams missed out on. I know him personally and he is a great guy with tons of energy. I think this whole ‘taking plays off’ stuff analysts are saying is just a bunch of hot air that is completely untrue.

Tom

April 24th, 2009
2:21 pm

If MJ drops into the 3rd, somebody’s getting a helluva bargain.

Relieved to see this was a football topic, Doug. I read the title and was expecting stories recounting your experiences with British hookers.

north avenue

April 24th, 2009
2:34 pm

Insightful post. You’re off to a good start!

TC

April 24th, 2009
2:53 pm

That was a weak blog……

TONY SHUMPERT

April 24th, 2009
2:59 pm

If the NFL awarded a “best body award” Michael would definitely get it. That man is ripped! I think I could do my laundry on his abs lol!

Atlanta Jackets

April 24th, 2009
3:31 pm

TC = turd chat

Interesting. While their 40 times were similar, I think that Williams had a much quicker first step than MJ. And the scouts love that.

Atlanta Jackets

April 24th, 2009
3:32 pm

I won the best body award two years ago. I worked out a lot.

Mac

April 24th, 2009
3:58 pm

I think Maycook is a contrarian because it gets her noticed. (I misspelled her name on purpose, because the filter won’t let his real name through). Johnson is no Aundray Bruce. He will be a good player in the NFL.

Born2Buzz

April 24th, 2009
4:34 pm

Tom…awesome post.

Funny that north ave. says “good start” and TC says “weak” in back to back posts.

I would be very happy if MJ drops down to the FAlcons in the 2nd or 3rd round. I think he has a lot of upside and will be a fierce edge rusher. Reminds me of the great Ted Hendricks in his athleticism and wing span. Let’s start calling him the Black Stork!!

Doug, some of my best friends are UGA grads. They are not woofin Dawgs and prove that UGA grads can have class. I also know several woofin Dawgs that may or may not be UGA grads, and they are jerks. I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Good luck in the changing world of journalism.

GTA

April 24th, 2009
4:37 pm

That’s Georgia Math for you folks: 35 – 28 = 7 reps, not 8.

GT

April 24th, 2009
5:29 pm

Tech has a great coach when a player looks like MJ and goes in the third round because the experts have decided he has little talent. Calvin goes as the second player and played on a team that never beat Georgia. I think the draft points out a lot of holes in the theories of college football. One I am sure of is a bad coach doesn’t win with bad talent after that it is wide open.

Doug Roberson

April 24th, 2009
5:56 pm

Sorry about the math error. Was typing fast so that I could get out and meet tennis and softball coaches.

I do love parts of England, especially footie, specifically Liverpool, and Newcastle beer. Mmmmm…..beer.

Not Disappointed

April 24th, 2009
6:20 pm

Mayock is an IDIOT! Micheal Johnson will shine in the NFL! I look forwar to seeing him playing on Sunday. Ramblin Wreck!

Not Disappointed

April 24th, 2009
6:21 pm

Foward, sorry for the typo!

Roy

April 24th, 2009
7:49 pm

MJ was double teamed a lot, as are most good pass rushers. Perhaps it would help if analysts watched a few games.

Chelsea Blues Own You

April 24th, 2009
9:55 pm

Ok, ok, I can deal with a Dawg grad as the beat writer for Tech – I’m a Dawg grad and a fan myself – but now it turns out your a Liverpool supporter too! Cripes. I think you need to stop the honesty. It’s not working.

Essien > Gerrard

In all seriousness, good start and good luck!

GT GRAD

April 24th, 2009
10:10 pm

Good (insightful) topic.

It seems like Mike Mayock has a personal vendetta against Michael Johnson. His comments do not properly reflect MJ’s performance on the football field. I would really like to see the Falcons draft MJ. MJ will be a very good NFL player (maybe a Patrick Kerney type with the pontential to be even better depending on the players on the D-line he ends up playing with).

Good luck to Michael Johnson.

Mr. Mayock should be ashamed and try to be more fair and less vendictive; he has negatively affected the draft status of MJ rather than simply providing his analysis!

GTA

April 25th, 2009
3:03 am

Lol, just kidding about the typo. Just giving you a hard time. You’re absolutely right about the draft though and I’m sure some idiot GMs out there would take into account Mayock’s comments while putting together their draft boards. I was born in New Orleans (raised in Atlanta) and I sure hope the Saints draft Johnson, I know they would get a super quality End (a position we sort of need more depth at) and from Chris Reis’ play, they know they would get a quality person as well that doesn’t necessarily take plays off.

GT71

April 25th, 2009
7:20 am

Now I’m sure I’m gonna like Doug. He got me with the ‘mmmm…beer’. And apparently he likes the ‘good’ beer – English stingo. None of this Bud-crud. Perhaps he was cleansed in NC after that horrid time in Athens.

wrong title

April 25th, 2009
8:55 am

should be titled “how an analyst can make or break your draft”

Tokyo jacket

April 25th, 2009
10:11 am

I don’t think analysts make or break anyone’s draft. I’m pretty sure that Bill Parcells and Bill Belichik know more about football than Mayock and don’t look to him for insight. All this “draft status” junk usually goes by the wayside by about the 20th pick, when seemingly random picks come in.

The truth of the matter is that this year’s crop of tweeners (LB/DE) is really strong. It might actually be a good thing for MJ to get picked up in the third round with lower expectations. In the NFL, almost no-one ever lives up to expectations. Here’s proof? How many winning rookie QBs have there been in the history of the NFL?

Tokyo jacket

April 25th, 2009
10:19 am

The answer to today’s Aflac trivia question is up until somewhat recently it was only two: Dan Marino and Kerry Collins. Free agency has changed that a little bit. Now the list includes Rothlisburger and possibly Pennington, but not sure if he actually started in all of the Jets wins that year. Either way, the numbers are WAY low! They are all team savers in April and losers in December. If you get a guy in the third round with lower expectations, it lets him develop rather than being placed right away.

yellowblooded

April 25th, 2009
4:46 pm

Doug could be the greatest sports writer of all time, but it is still the most boneheaded move the AUC could have ever made.

It’s like the AUC editors sat down and said to themselves, “What can we do to run the most GT subscribers off?” “I know lets drop all coverage of GT athletics?”

“OK, we have to cover them, so what’s the next way in which we can run off the most GT subscribers?” “Let’s cut from 2 beatwriters to one beatwriter. Then let’s get the biggest UGAy fan in the sports dept. (nicknamed ‘Dawg’ Roberson) to solely cover GT sports.

And you wonder why the AUC is going out of business. It’d be like Cynthia Tucker being the sole beatwriter for the Republicans. The most idiotic move I’ve ever seen…

Doug Roberson

April 25th, 2009
5:43 pm

My nickname is Dawg?

First I’ve heard of that.

And no, I’m not a UGA fan, can’t be a fan of anyone (that you cover, may cover, supervise coverage of, and on and on) if you are a journalist. As I said before, just Liverpool. Can’t imagine there would ever be a conflict of interest with me rooting for the Reds. They won today, by the way.

Softball is in extra innings, btw. Tech is battling UNC for first place in the ACC. Went to the new field yesterday. It’s pretty nice, for sure.

Not Disappointed

April 25th, 2009
7:47 pm

Thanks for the update Doug, but you’re still on PROBATION! Ramblin Wreck!

Nate

April 25th, 2009
10:47 pm

Yellowblooded,

Seriously man, let’s just deal with our new writer and try to support him. All newspapers are suffering, so these moves shouldn’t surprise anyone. And you should give him credit for at least admitting he was a UGA grad before someone finding out. Seriously, just please show some support.

GTman

April 26th, 2009
6:46 am

The problem with MJ is not his 225 reps or his weight or his 40 time or his “energy”. The reason he has fallen from a projected top 5 pick to a 3rd rounder is what we all saw this season – he could not beat good college level tackles one on one. Yes, he got double teamed SOME of the time, but there were many times when he got blocked by one tackle. Monroe (UVA) man handled MJ – it was no contest.

I don’t know what happened to MJ from his junior season to his senior season, but he was not the same fearsome player this past season.

Here’s hoping to him becoming the biggest steal of the draft. I’m still pulling for him as he seems to be a great young man and always represented GT very well.

Good Luck MJ and THWG!

Not Disappointed

April 26th, 2009
12:12 pm

Micheal Johnson went early in the 3rd round. Now, he can prove himself and let the nation see he is serious about the NFL. He will be find. Ramblin Wreck!!!!!

gatech87

April 26th, 2009
1:44 pm

MJ got screwed by some jackass analysts. No team could take him without getting a huge black eye (and “I told you so”) if he didn’t work out so well and was a first round pick.

It a shame how it all works. MJ was a more valuable player for GT (and more pro potential) than #12 pick Moreno (who will prove to be a big bust) by light years.

yellowblood

April 26th, 2009
5:40 pm

A few pounds make a difference like inches at a Tickle Pile!!!

Not Disappointed

April 26th, 2009
6:57 pm

Hey, we have four players thus far to be drafted. It’s a great day! Four real good players that can make an immediate impact at there prospective positions in the NFL. We may not approve of the draft order, but they have a chance to Shine. Ramblin Wreck!

Saint Simons

April 26th, 2009
7:53 pm

FINALLY GOT THE CALL! yeap Doug is a uga fan!

gatech87

April 26th, 2009
9:03 pm

Heck, we got 3 RB’s better than Noshow, now. He’d be our #4 RB.

He’d have gotten 4-5 carries a game, for us this fall if he were at GT…

SugarHillDawg

April 26th, 2009
9:49 pm

Hey gatech87, I guess those analysts saw MJ’s dominant performance in the Ga game.He’s a BUM! Our Frosh tackle kept him a spectator all game.He was drafted higher than most Tech players so shut your pecker puffer!!!

SugarHillDawg

April 26th, 2009
9:52 pm

Hey Yellowblood, you Nerds are lucky ANYBODY will cover Tech. That’s worse than being a weatherman in Upper Siberia.

gatech87

April 26th, 2009
9:55 pm

45-42 with your finest Sr class EVER!

Get used to getting it handed to you if that’s was the best you’ve got, pole smoker…

GT

April 26th, 2009
10:48 pm

MJ goes in the third because his engine is questioned. Best thing that could have happened to next year’s team. First of all this new coaching staff knows how to get these players motivated and secondly it becomes a selfish factor now that the players see such talent wasted, and start thinking what they need to be doing to impress the pros. I hope MJ earned that rep more from the Gailey days, when the whole team looked like flower pickers in quiet a few games but I noticed a lot of the old habits in that LSU game. I remember that FSU game at home being an old Tech hard nose barn burner which we still almost lost. Then we went up to North Carolina and look like Zombies. I remember in the Virginia game MJ got held the entire game and was not a factor in that loss because of it. They would hold him and run that back that got drafted right up the middle nobody could tackle him. They do a lot of holding and get away with it in the pros, so I hope that is not a problem with MJ, I really don’t think it will be. Playing in Cincinnati if he does have an engine problem will only make it worse. I never heard mention of this being a problem till the draft’s scouting was in its last few week. Like I said I noticed the whole team looking like it was a practice instead of a game almost the whole time Gailey was coaching. I hope that is it and we don’t have an epidemic on this team. My guest is a few like Taylor who love to take your head off won’t let it happen.

doug roberson

April 26th, 2009
11:38 pm

Guys, it appears that on my first blog, entitled “greetings,” someone went on there, under my name, and posted a bunch of stuff about me being a UGA fan, and that I still pull for UGA, blah, blah, blah.

I don’t pull for anyone, except Liverpool, as I said.

I don’t pull for Georgia. All I want are fast games and good storylines.

Sorry about the confusion. When I get the gray box thing figured out, we won’t have this problem anymore.

macrotech

April 27th, 2009
5:02 am

Hey, SugarHillDawg- isn’t there a leg you need to be humping? a car that needs chasing? a butt to sniff? Truly, how does a pup get on a Tech blog and talk smack AFTER having lost the last matchup? just asking….GO AWAY! GO TECH! AGAIN AND AGAIN!!! GO TECH!!!

GTman

April 27th, 2009
9:48 am

Doug,

If you went to UGA, I expect you to be a Dawg fan. Why wouldn’t you be? I’m okay with that. In fact you might even be more objective and not have the Gold colored glasses (like I sometimes wear) on when assessing GT football. All I expect is active and insightful coverage. Give me information about the team that I can’t get anywhere else. Last I checked, GT does not have a school of journalism.

So…good luck to you and THWG!!